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UPDATED!! GHOST RIDER Script Review'!

Sounds bad. Blaze isn't Ghost Rider? by AlwaysRight	Oct 7th, 2002 08:34:33 AM
If this is genuine maybe it's the writer who wants his draft to be made...?
It can workone of two ways... by Flash82	Oct 7th, 2002 08:38:12 AM
Cage as Blaze or Johnny Depp as Dan Ketch. Either way would be awesome.I perfer Blaze.
First by Smile_X	Oct 7th, 2002 08:42:41 AM
I think it will suck, and if its like this Nick Cage won't do it.
sounds good, i'd see it... by The Dude Abides	Oct 7th, 2002 09:11:06 AM
but did anybody else feel like that was a moriarty review under another pseudonym?
Wasn't Me by TheRealMoriarty	Oct 7th, 2002 09:14:11 AM
If I was going to review it, I'd just review it. No reason for me to write under other pseudonyms. If I've got a conflict, as I clearly would in this case, then I'll just sit on the bench. No worries there. Sure, I'll be disappointed that I can't write a review for PUNCHDRUNK LOVE or PETER PAN or any other Revolution Studios film I'm looking forward to, but I'm also honest about it. I'm not bein' sneaky. Honest injun.
ok... by Everett Robert	Oct 7th, 2002 09:16:27 AM
This sounds a bit...different. I wasn't all that much of a GR fan, but I have a working knowledge of the char. The more I think about this sciprt it sounds a bit...Spawnish if you know what I mean
I know, Ghost Rider 'penance stares' Kal-El out of being by Lordhoban	Oct 7th, 2002 09:27:06 AM
It sounds like an interesting script.. and I'll probably enjoy it in the end if it's made, but I also don't like some elements from it, but I guess I could buy it.. they can still do a more faithful adaption later as this doesn't seem to contradict much besides the fact that Blaze is not, or was not the original Ghost Rider.. means, no Hellfire gun? Also, isn't that the Detective that BECOMES Vengeance?
Sounds reasonable by Glynyfaron	Oct 7th, 2002 09:36:58 AM
Ghost Rider inhabiting different people is not a problem, he's done it before. Nicholas Cage, however, must not be given this role, nor indeed any role ever again, because whenever I watch him try to act my feelings tend to oscillate between revulsion and pity. Apart from that it's all good.
A positive review? by rev_skarekroe	Oct 7th, 2002 09:47:32 AM
Obviously a plant. sk
Ghost Rider has an insaciable penchant for...ahhh fuck it! by HedShotX	Oct 7th, 2002 10:05:21 AM
Hey...if there's a flaming skull in a bike kicking ass and givin the old "penance stare"...then i'
sounds like crap by BurlIvesLeftNut	Oct 7th, 2002 10:09:43 AM
Yes the reviewer was extremely enthusiastic, but I imagine that someone out there could write an enthusiastic review of "Look Who's Talking Too". The truth is, the plot of this sounds totally silly and contrived. No wonder it died on the vine.
This guy thought X-MEN was pure action? by KONG33	Oct 7th, 2002 10:11:28 AM
Uh, it had character, and heart and depth (it's there), it was meaningful AND had action, which is why I wonder if this script has anything BUT action... which isn't so smart or original. He's not even called 'Ghost Rider'? Then he's another non-hero? That has potential, if the trailer makes it seem like a low-budget flick until his life changes and he becomes something else. Superman breaking through chains might be thought of as lame, simple and '2D' but for those w/ imaginations, this can mean a lot of things and you can put yourself into the character or view it as a metaphor for a billion situations or merely see it as an action (for those w/o creativity). I got carried away and few will understand this! I just meant that characterization sometimes isn't everything... (though they are always necessary). I find it hard to trust this reviewer, The BIG problem is, this guy doesn't dislike anything about this script that he mentions in this review, he just says fans are going to bitch about changes and suggests they shouldn't. The story sounds derivative, isn't that the story for 100 Bullets?
Just take the words Ghost and Rider off everything and it sounds by Postwood	Oct 7th, 2002 10:22:11 AM
Cause this aint no Ghost Rider.
100 Bullets rip-off. by Man_of_Kerioth	Oct 7th, 2002 10:27:28 AM
Agent Graves = the Devil. Sounds more than a little too unfaithful to the comic book, anyway. And how the fuck does this morron get off calling them funny books?!
Thanks for clearing that up Morty, by The Dude Abides	Oct 7th, 2002 10:46:46 AM
Wasn't being critical, but I thought the reviewer sounded a lot like you...which is a good thing.
what!?! a movie where the main actors head is always on fire!?! by dumbkidd	Oct 7th, 2002 10:57:44 AM
how the fuck will they do that, digital? THAT'LL LOOK LIKE SHIT!
Who's gonna feed scarves to the Ghost Rider dogs??? by IAmJack'sUserID	Oct 7th, 2002 11:46:40 AM

Any time they enter "the devil" into a script, you knows it' by empyreal0	Oct 7th, 2002 11:48:43 AM
It's just too heavy-handed for anyone to take the least bit seriously. What's the use of writing hero-fantasy if you can't sell your audience on the concept. I bought Wolverine's anger. I bought The Joker's insanity. I could buy the Ghost Rider as a mysterious specter of death. Why introduce something so ridiculously over the top as Satan (like that shit of a movie End of Days, or Bless the Child) and completely demolish what could have been a great ghost story meets hero movie? I can see it now, in a few years someone's going to make a movie where there's "a greater evil than even Satan himself - mwuhahahaha." sigh pap smear on celluloid.
Is this movie still going ahead? by NoOpinion	Oct 7th, 2002 11:52:42 AM
I read that the studio were shooting for a PG rating that David Goyer wasn't happy with so he jumped ship. Is this true? Or are they still using his script anyway and just toning it down a lot?
The Spirit of Vengence Possesses Maverick's Dead Partner - " by hipcheck13	Oct 7th, 2002 01:36:22 PM
No, no, no, NO. John Blaze is Ghost Rider, period. Not Dan Ketch, not six people who're part of some satanic scavenger hunt. This "reimagining" sounds like someone passing a cold to five other people. The ORIGINAL GR story has so much depth - John, stunt-rider in a circus, tricked by the devil - I think you HAVE to start there. Then you can bring in elements of the "newer" GR (penance stare).
Lil Changes by ThingsThatTimDog	Oct 7th, 2002 02:23:49 PM
Remove the Devil is going to usurp God plot point and Im sold. Seems like a descent script to me. ust insert a powerful demon is going to invade the earth plot line instead. The Headless Horseman....errr I mean Ghost Rider has had so many different versions it shouldnt matter much anyway.
Harry, post that pic of Mike Myers in Cat in the Hat!!!! by Terry_1978	Oct 7th, 2002 03:00:43 PM
Lord have mercy, i just saw it online....my god, i think i won't be able to get any sleep for a while....shiver.
Joaquin Phoenix for Ghost Rider. by Christopher3	Oct 7th, 2002 03:39:08 PM

another one bites the dust by Cuskarie	Oct 7th, 2002 03:41:08 PM
Well here is the second marvel adaption to realy sound like it's gonna suck. First the heart and soul of the Hulk is torn asunder by some arthouse fuck and now the nature of the ghost rider is gonna be beatin, thrown into a ditch and pissed on by someone who should know better. We might as well go back to watching spiderman climb up a wall with the wires clearly visable, atleast those were true to the character.
A Ghost Rider movie would be as lame as a movie about Dazzler. by RoobyRoo	Oct 7th, 2002 03:43:58 PM
Any executive who would green-light this silly shit should be immediately fired.
WTF??? by drjones	Oct 7th, 2002 03:45:14 PM
doesn`t it just look like a white grinch???
Nick Cage could probably play Johnny Blaze... by MisterE	Oct 7th, 2002 04:12:20 PM
...if they were making a Ghost Rider film. In fact, he is probably not too bad a choice for Mr. Blaze. However, this isn't a Ghost Rider film except in name only. Could be worse, I guess. Ghost Rider could be a giant robotic Spider-Spirit of Vengeance. E.
as a non-ghost rider reader... by drjones	Oct 7th, 2002 04:13:21 PM
i think this sounds pretty promising... MAYBE something to anticipate...i dunno. the only thing i know for sure is that i`d be REALLY HAPPY IF ANYONE WOULD E-ME ANY SCRIPTS....tzz..tzz..tzz. who the hell do you have to BE if you find scripts in you e-mail account....
Oh, yeah, here is how it could be worse... by MisterE	Oct 7th, 2002 04:14:03 PM
This film could be about Dan Ketch rubbing a frickin' magic gas cap on his motorcycle to become the Spirit of Vengeance. Now, that would suck. E.
Zarathustra demands vengence by Ignatz	Oct 7th, 2002 04:17:16 PM
There's not much I want from a ghost rider movie,flaming skull, motorcycle stunts, flaming death for the guilty. However, I really think Johnny Blaze should be the ghost rider after being tricked by Mephisto, I never read those new storylines they looked crappy. Oh, and a Dazzler movie would rock as 70's period movie about coke and disco, they could throw in Luke Cage and have them fight the circus of fear with a little help from S.H.E.I.L.D. All about the glitter spandex and rollerskates.
hey, it could be worse! by lynxpro	Oct 7th, 2002 04:40:26 PM
They could cast the actor who played Urkle to play Ghost Rider, and then have him say "slammin'" every once in awhile! Hey Emptyreal0, get your movie knowledge up to version 2.0. John Carpenter already made a movie with a villain more evil than Satan...try Satan's father... THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS...
Sounds like halloween 3 by RedFive	Oct 7th, 2002 05:06:08 PM
It doesnt sound bad but it needs to be the sequel and at the end have johnny blaze fight the last ghost rider satan has made.We need to know johhny blaze is ghost rider,plain and simple,its like saying peter parker isnt spiderman.Eddie brock is.It just wouldnt work and i know GR is no spiderman or even close to being as popular but we need that origin story 1st.
Sounds pretty bad to me by Ivan_Mtl	Oct 7th, 2002 05:28:06 PM
This 'body jumping/switching' idea sounds pretty lame to me. I can name numerous movies where this plot device was used and they all have one thing in common - they were awful movies. I can see that they are attempting to emulate THE CROW (an avenging spirit that possesses different bodies), but I think that is the wrong way to go. The mystery angle would be good if this movie wasn't entitled GHOST RIDER and based on an established comic book character whose identity is known to its readers. You can see the dilema here. No, I think this movie needs a different approach.
I never cared much for supporting characters in GR... by -=Shin=-	Oct 7th, 2002 06:08:46 PM
Not to knock other Ghost Rider fans, but I always felt the supporting characters never lived up to the coolness and idea of Ghost Rider. Honestly though, I'd be just as happy with a film that played similar to the original Crow film, but with Ghost Rider being the element of vengence. (I don't mean he should go around talking and whining, but just have a similar feel. Ghost Rider is a different character than Johnny, umlike Eric and his reborn self.) I really want to see Ghost Rider on film for a decent amount of time. It's such a pop-myth design! GR's the main character, not Johnny Blaze in a costume. Maybe that's what the script writer was intending, but it feels like we're getting a movie about paranormal detectives/circus performers. My favorite issues of the Johnny Blaze storyline involve him riding like a wanderer through America. I'd love to see a wide-shot of GR riding across the desert with the only light coming from his skull and cycle. Lastly, I don't want this to be a biker movie - I hated the recent Gun Metal Gray GR relaunch.
Carrot Top(aka Scott Thompson) by MechaniFerret	Oct 7th, 2002 06:10:11 PM
They won't need any CGI to simulate ol' firehead. Actually what would be really cool is if they dumped gasoline on Carrot Top and threw a match on him. No wait! Hook Carrot Top to a bunjee cord, dump gasoline on him, push him off a bridge then fire flaming arrows at him as he "bounces". Leave his charred remains(still attached to the cord) overnight, then return the next day and....where was this going? Anyway...Carrot Top's real name is Scott Thompson(100% true). Weird. MF
Only horses and strippers should be called Blaze by Son Of Batboy	Oct 7th, 2002 06:12:56 PM
Sounds shitty. "It
PALTROW by TomVee	Oct 7th, 2002 07:03:04 PM
"Ghost Rider should fight Zombie Bruce Paltrow!" Poor dead Bruce Paltrow seems to take quite a beating in these talkbacks. Could DUETS have been all that bad? I guess so.
the only way this movie will work... by DarkWingDragon	Oct 7th, 2002 07:04:32 PM
is if the script is badass and true to the original story... because majority of the tickets sale will be from the hardcore GR fans
Ignatz, Your Dazzler movie idea isn't bad... by MisterE	Oct 7th, 2002 07:25:48 PM
...but Hollywood would fuck that up, too. E.
F*#k Ghost Rider... by manwiththedogs	Oct 7th, 2002 08:41:31 PM
..bring on the "Punisher"
GIVE US THE GORY DETAILS, MAN! by ILoveEwksAndJJar	Oct 7th, 2002 08:41:44 PM
Don't just say it ain't stylized for movies. NC17? You're killin me, man.
writer's agenda by -=Shin=-	Oct 7th, 2002 08:42:05 PM
I think this is the point of these 're-imaginings'. It's a writer's agenda. These are the same people who have been screwing comic characters for years. Now, let me clarify, some writers approach characters with the idea of "What would make a great story for this character to take part in?" Then, you get these other writers who have their own agenda "How can I make my mark on this character? How can I remake this character?" Essentially, the latter backfires and we end up with endless new costume designs and convulted storylines that make no sense. I hate it when this happens. It's really disgusting (to me) when a new writer comes on a character that's been around for longer than the writer has been alive, and all he wants to do is throw out what works, all in favor of making his mark and giving us his take. (I'm glad your are creative, but make your own characters if you want to present your take. Don't haphazardly throw it into main continuity because it was fun to brainstorm.) The guys who really know and love comics are the folks who want to write good stories for a character to take part in (and also follow natural extensions of the character), or think: "what would make a good Superman comic? What would make a good Batman comic?" These are the guys who are truly the ones who make a mark on a character. There are certain characters you can immediately identify with a writer and/or artist. These are the guys who wanted to serve the character's mythos instead of trying to serve themselves. I'm not saying that everytime a creator and a character don't mesh means that the writer is out to tarnish the character, but I do believe a lot of times, the creator aren't aware of what their 're-imaginings' are doing.
Could be worse... by Draven99	Oct 7th, 2002 08:55:15 PM
This movie could be worse but, who knows. I got involved with GR in the Dan Ketch incarnation, I liked that story, I would enjoy seeing some story of GR facing off with Blackout. Offtopic a bit, that bit about the Crow being about an avenging spirit possessing bodies is just wrong. The crow is the vessel that allows a wrongly killed person to come back and set things right, granted there is a bit of vengenace involved but now spirit possession, thank you very much. D99
I Agree by ILoveEwksAndJJar	Oct 7th, 2002 08:55:31 PM
Put it in the Script that Jhonny once was GR. It'd definitely add to the story and wouldn't alter it much.
That sure is a lot of writing for a fake. by rev_skarekroe	Oct 7th, 2002 09:05:26 PM
I don't get it. I mean, really. Why? sk
G(hosed) Rider by SaintX99	Oct 7th, 2002 09:09:08 PM
Jeezus, Moriarty... triple check! triple check!!!
"baby baby baby he's looking so cute... by DOGSOUP	Oct 7th, 2002 09:10:22 PM
..riding around in his blue jump suit" purists,bah.
Rollins Band by AsgardTex	Oct 7th, 2002 09:33:35 PM
Hell yeah that Ghost Rider song kicked ass. I never understood why it was on the Crow soundtrack. Hmmmm... maybe if they ever did a Ghost Rider movie, Henry Rollins should definitely have a role. He was the best part of Johnny Mnumonic and The Chase.
Apologies, but... by GRInTheMachine	Oct 7th, 2002 09:45:15 PM
It turns out that this is NOT the script for the film, BUT I don't see why I've been I've been outed as a 'fraud' for reviewing what I actually thought was the script. If someone sends you a script and says "This is the script for the Ghost Rider movie", you kind of take that at face value. I was reviewing what i was told was the actual script for the Ghost Rider movie...just like Moriarty accepted it for it was and posted the review for the script that i thought was the real deal. We both did so in 'good faith'. I apologise if I wasted anyone's time, but I am telling you that I'm not a dishonest contributor just because I was slipped a fake. And I'm hesitant to call it a 'fake', because I still think it is a good script that would make a solid movie (maybe not Ghost Rider), whoever wrote it. I'm sorry this turned out to be a fake, but I'm not going to take the rap as being 'dishonest' for just accepting the script as genuine...just like Moriarty just accepted my review as genuine. Thank you.
Poor moriarty.. someones probably launching an organized assault by TheMatarife	Oct 7th, 2002 09:59:52 PM
Spies that start giving good info, then screw you. A classic tactic. I'd be double checking all your info from now on, hell triple check it. Maybe its warner brotehrs fking with you guys over the superman review. Be careful, and tread lightly. Oh yeah, you might want to get Visual route, from www.visualroute.com and trace that email and see where it came from. You might find something interesting.
Watchmen script by spider-ham	Oct 7th, 2002 10:13:53 PM
Its been a few days, lets hear about it M. !
You guys by ZO	Oct 7th, 2002 11:25:29 PM
keep getting played. some advice? let it happen. thats your site. you're a rumor and gossip site. not a fact site. be what you are
Not G.R. by 7ZeroCorpse	Oct 7th, 2002 11:58:58 PM
"The controversy of the very idea behind Ghost Rider being something that is passed around from person to person is gonna make so many people bitch about
All I Remember of the Original Ghost Rider... by NoCureForFools	Oct 8th, 2002 12:11:06 AM
is his look. the flaming skull guy on the 70s hog. as a kid, i loved the way he looked, but never got to into the character. i vaguely remember the name Jonny Blaze, but that's more thanx to Method Man than the comix. so... it doesn't really matter a good gosh darn to me what they do with the character. i'd like to see something cool. so far, this sounds like a mixture of the Crow and Spawn which... well, were okay at best. as far as the violence is concerned, i'd loooove to see an NC-17 level violent superhero film, but the likelyhood of this occuring in the increasingly puritanical Hollywood is extremely unlikely at best. here's an idea: give the liscense to the Japanese, THEN you'd get your hyperviolent action film that achieves cult status... Hollywood has given up taking chances, where as the new Japanese cinema is taking chances Americans only dream of...
Arizona People by MrMojoRisin69	Oct 8th, 2002 12:48:56 AM
IF you are of voting age and you live in Arizona FOR GODSAKE vote YES on PROP 203, you need it and it needs you...
The thing is... by GRInTheMachine	Oct 8th, 2002 03:03:17 AM
This ISN'T the Ghost Rider screenplay that I was told and thought it was, so no one needs to worry about how bad a treatment of Ghost Rider's history it is. As I told Moriarty when I sent him the script, the more I think about it, the more I realise that I was impressed with the script itself as it was...but maybe not as a Ghost Rider movie. It SOUNDS like the Crow or whatever, but it's not. The best way I can describe it is as a supernatural 'Se7en', mixed with 'Fallen'. But this is all redundant...I was given the wrong impression by my source and it spilled over on to these pages and I'm very sorry for that. I stand by my review of the script itself...whatever it was/is intended for or whoever wrote it is inconsequential. I'd be interested to see if it was fanfiction or a rejected draft or something, but all i seem to be getting is 'someone told me this is the GR script from someone inside the production'. It's turned out as a game of chinese whispers. i'm not the first one to get sucked in by it...the reviewers on this site have fallen for it at times...and it will continue to happen. I didn't intend for it to turn out like this...I sent in the review knowing very little, but trusting what I HAD been told. and no one can hold that against me.
Bring on The Punisher?!? by MiguelAlvarez	Oct 8th, 2002 05:38:29 AM
Why, so Hollywood can fuck it up again?
Shit...i really wanted to see a GR movie... by HedShotX	Oct 8th, 2002 05:39:59 AM
Man...i really wanted to see a flaming skull from hell kicking ass left and right!!! Will this movie ever get made?... I just hope they don't use that "toned down" cute version where Ghost Rider has a little cute friend and the two of them feed scarves to Ghost Rider dogs...
GRInTheMachine... by SaintX99	Oct 8th, 2002 08:54:45 AM
Dude, honest mistake, we understand. whatever, move on, stop apologizing. Just remember kids, if it's in your e-mail, it's not always true! Example: $49 vacations, penis enlargements and Bambi's Porn Dorm. right up there with "authorless GR Script."
AsguardTex by lynxpro	Oct 8th, 2002 03:25:07 PM
No, the Henry Rollins part in "The Chase" was not the best cameo character. That belonged to Mr. Ron Jeremy as the cameraman! Speaking of Mr. Rollins, did anyone catch him on Drew Carrey last night?

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