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by Uga
Jul 19th, 2002
07:46:27 AM
Funny, I don't have anything to say. Oh, that's not true. This could by Chyna's big Hollywood break.
Haaa, haaaaaaa, haaaaa
by The Night Raven
Jul 19th, 2002
07:50:03 AM
She-Hulk? Haa,haa, arghhhhhh. Say it ain't so, Ang!
Hulking Pile of Crap
by huggyg
Jul 19th, 2002
07:51:53 AM
The whole conception of this film is misguided. What on earth is Ang lee trying to acomplish that couldn't be better served by staying faithful to the original and extremely compelling 'Hulk' story? I'm getting sick of the way Hollywood is taking the stories that shaped our childhoods and twisting them in the pursuit of so-called 'creativity'. Give us a break - please!
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZzz
by LordWeymont
Jul 19th, 2002
07:55:47 AM
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
I don't quite see the point of going to so much trouble to m
by CoolDan989
Jul 19th, 2002
07:56:29 AM
But, who knows, maybe they're just exercizing the huge budget this movie probably has. Hey, as long as it looks cool...
I want STAN LEE's Hulk not Ang Lee's
by cncoyle
Jul 19th, 2002
08:02:08 AM
I was hoping that Ang Lee would make something unique yet close to the original. I think we're heading down the same road "Captain America" did. A tweak here and there is okay, but it sounds like he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We've got Absorbing Man as Daddy, mutated dogs, and a "prototype" for the Hulk? The Hulk is a pure accident and happened only to Bruce. (Well, Jen had a transfusion, but... oh, hell, continuity can be a bother! I know, let's ULTIMIZE! Sorry, wrong post!)
Trust Ang
by Trevor Goodchild
Jul 19th, 2002
08:03:40 AM
Has he made a bad movie?
huh?
by illuminati_33
Jul 19th, 2002
08:15:45 AM
I want to trust Ang, but i've heard way to many things that make this NOT a Hulk movie. I was anxious to see godzilla too, boy did I leave dissapointed. Might not have been that bad if it was called something else. The Hulk is the Hulk, don't make a bunch of shit up, it is popular for a reason! If Ang lee wants to make a good superhuman movie with a story like this, use original fucking material!! Heres to hoping all these rumors are a bunch of crap.
You guys aren't seeing this mess...
by Kid Z
Jul 19th, 2002
08:36:15 AM
...the way the studio suits are seeing it. Obviously Ang Lee was chosen because his films are huge in the growing Asian market. Hollywood is concerned only with the proverbial bottom line. Most mainstream movies are specifically designed with the foreign markets in mind, the domestic market is an afterthought... movies make much more money overseas. The Asian market is gigantic, so who cares if Ang Lee makes a mess of the Hulk story... no one in Asia's even heard of the Hulk anyway! All they'll be seeing is a "cool monster movie about an American superhero." Think of it as the big-screen version of the Japanese-produced Spider-Man TV show (which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Spidey we all know and love). Of course the Hulk movie will be an outrage to long-time fans. But people will still go to see it. Even most Americans only know the Hulk from the Bill Bixby TV show and that had almost nothing to do with the comic also (They even changed the name of the main character!) Hollywood does not give a rip about the views of comics fans. It's all about the money!
Harry, Harry tell your balls to stop giggling and fix your bulls
by ItsOver
Jul 19th, 2002
08:36:47 AM
I can't stand any more geeks gnashing thier teeth and whining.
W'aful!
by FanHalen
Jul 19th, 2002
08:42:40 AM
'Nuff said!
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by durhay
Jul 19th, 2002
08:42:56 AM
"No one in Asia's even heard of the Hulk anyway!"
by Bad Guy
Jul 19th, 2002
08:46:30 AM
You're kidding, right, Kid Z?? Japan is like a sponge for American pop culture. Anyhoo, too many changes to our heroe's history, me no like! Bad Guy smash!!!!
"No one in Asia's even heard of the Hulk anyway!"
by Bad Guy
Jul 19th, 2002
08:46:36 AM
You're kidding, right, Kid Z?? Japan is like a sponge for American pop culture. Anyhoo, too many changes to our heroe's history, me no like! Bad Guy smash!!!!
Maybe in Japan...
by Kid Z
Jul 19th, 2002
08:53:38 AM
...but Asia's a lot bigger than just Japan. Do you think they've heard of the Hulk in Thailand? Myanmar? Xinjiang Province? Indonesia? I doubt it! (at least not the general masses, anyway) And in Japn, they won't really be happy unless the Hulk transforms into a gigantic robot in the climactic final fight scene against the evil witch who lives on the moon!
Well as long as.......
by Dr.Zeus
Jul 19th, 2002
08:59:57 AM
Matthew Broderick is not in it count me in.....Of course we may to suffer through little Hulk-Zillas.... Oh shit!!!!.... Hold On!..... Maybe Ang Lee's Hulk is a Uni-sexual creature also....you know just like some species of frogs(they're green too).... Oh Hell No!!!!!! He's gonna do a sex change right on camera!!!!!!! Ohmagawd!!!!!!!! She Hulk to giving birth to Lil Hulk to changing to Big Hulk!!!!!!!! Hey guys I think I figured out the plot!
Hmmmmm
by philociraptor
Jul 19th, 2002
09:12:25 AM
Very little I've seen apart from the casting gives me much reason to believe that this film will be anything other than shite. I love the Hulk character & want this to be a good movie but all the changes seem to be for the sake of them. The director is changing things not because they are good ideas but just to make it more his own, WANK. I'm expecting woeful drivel with little respect for the original characters typical hollywood bobbins, I hope i'm wrong.
I must, I must, I must increase my hulk bust...
by durhay
Jul 19th, 2002
09:22:55 AM
way too many Hulks
by Dead Megatron
Jul 19th, 2002
09:28:04 AM
I don
ang lee's hulk gives me faith in a tired genre
by btm
Jul 19th, 2002
09:30:21 AM
for those who believe ang lee was hired to please the asian market, you're obviously high. ang lee is a great risk for the studio because he's one of the few directors who will follow his own vision, not theirs. you won't see macy gray doing a music video in this one, or a several minute interlude to play a prince song. this will be one man's vision, and a brilliant, unique vision at that. after the ice storm, people were shocked that he'd attempth a martial arts movie. the rest of that is history. now with the hulk, we have the chance to see a filmaker reinvent a genre that is in dire need of reinvention. who cares if there's a naked hulk, a female hulk, or a dog hulk? he could have a gay hulk as far as i'm concerned and i'm still gonna be the first one on line for this movie. one thing we can be sure of is to expect the unexpected. ang very well could change all of our preconceptions of what a super hero movie is all about (the way m. night shamyalon did). that's the point of great art, be it film, music, etc. to give us what we need, not what we want.
I think Pam Anderson should play the She Hulk and Hulk Hogan sho
by Chaffro
Jul 19th, 2002
09:30:34 AM
"Whatcha doin' wit that machine there, sister? WHOA, BROTHER, look at those funbags go!"
It may be called, "HULK," but it's not!
by Dr.Killkov
Jul 19th, 2002
09:30:36 AM
He may be green, huge, nasty and named, "The Hulk," but this isnt THE Hulk. Why the fuck are these guys messing around with a story that's already there? They totally fucked the X-MEN, the BATMAN's need a savior now to ressurect that fading franachise because let's face it, the best BATMAN movie out there is MASK OF THE PHANTASM! SPIDERMAN kept true to comic, (somewhat) and that movie was great. SUPERMAN 1 kept true to the comic and that was great too. The work is already done for these hacks. I dont know, these Superhero films are in a state of 911, and the only one's who cn save us, are Speilberg, Cameron and McTeirnan.
ang lee's hulk gives me faith in a tired genre
by btm
Jul 19th, 2002
09:30:54 AM
for those who believe ang lee was hired to please the asian market, you're obviously high. ang lee is a great risk for the studio because he's one of the few directors who will follow his own vision, not theirs. you won't see macy gray doing a music video in this one, or a several minute interlude to play a prince song. this will be one man's vision, and a brilliant, unique vision at that. after the ice storm, people were shocked that he'd attempth a martial arts movie. the rest of that is history. now with the hulk, we have the chance to see a filmaker reinvent a genre that is in dire need of reinvention. who cares if there's a naked hulk, a female hulk, or a dog hulk? he could have a gay hulk as far as i'm concerned and i'm still gonna be the first one on line for this movie. one thing we can be sure of is to expect the unexpected. ang very well could change all of our preconceptions of what a super hero movie is all about (the way m. night shamyalon did). that's the point of great art, be it film, music, etc. to give us what we need, not what we want.
Kid Z
by Bad Guy
Jul 19th, 2002
09:37:22 AM
Sure, Asia is more than just Japan, but I STILL say that at least the fanboys over there, are aware of The Hulk, just like the fanboys over here. Did The Hulk tv series play over there? If it did, then that gives it an even wider audience.
The more I hear about this the more frightened I become
by notinconceivable
Jul 19th, 2002
09:38:16 AM
It's official folks, Stan Lee has sold out. Or at least he will have if half of the shit that we are hearing about this movie comes to pass. I for one am becoming more discerning about which movies I do and do not see. Money is not the object but with so many events that take up time in one's life one must pick and choose carefully so as not to waste too much time on steaming piles of shit like Sand. Ugh, dont rent. ***************** I'll wait until it comes out on the FOX network all chopped up for commercials and content. Maybe it will make more sense then than what I am hearing now. ***************** Anyways, see this movie at your peril rabid fanpersons.
fuck creativity
by Dead Megatron
Jul 19th, 2002
09:43:41 AM
Hey, if a filme maker wants to creative, he/she should not make an adaptation. creativity demands original screenplays, duh!!. In order for it to work, a comic book adaptation must be AS CLOSE ASPOSSIBLE of the original. Spider-man nailed it, Superman nailed it, X-men almost nailed it (too many characters in too little screentime, but I'm faithful the sequels -and there will be more than just one, for sure- will provide what was missing). Batman didn
Moan all you want fanboys, Lee won't be bullied by you. I&#
by scorpio2nd
Jul 19th, 2002
09:52:32 AM
Unless you're prepared to tell me right now that you won't bother seeing it opening weekend, then your comments are meaningless. Go ahead, tell me you're gonna see Charlies Angels 2 instead.
Ugh
by zirbirt
Jul 19th, 2002
10:18:57 AM
First time posting here, but I have been reading this site for quite a while. Though I trust that Ang can and will create a fantastic film, the question, for me, is how will this film effect the genre (which I really love and look forward to more movies in). Batman was a decent movie, the sequals sucked, and the comic movies released around that time were even worse. (Judge Dredd, The Punisher, Etc.) In my eyes X-men started to show us that Comic movies can work and I believe it paved the way for some of the ones in the works right now. X-men gave us a taste of what we want, a comic come to life. Art, creation, and vision are great for a movie maker and are what leads to some of the best movies out there, but when dealing with something as revered by it's fans as a comic, you have to stay true to that medium. Batman was far from the comic (though the first was closer than the sequals). The muck comic movies (punisher, Judge dred, and a list I keep burned out of my memory) all completely lost their origins X-men (low budget compared to the batmans) keep somewhat true to it. and was great. Spiderman, minor changes, but very true in the end... stellar... I think I see a trend. Oh, and while writing this I have been watching that little cartoon of harry cutting his eye open with a straight razor... disturbing stuff I tell you.
this seals the deal
by KneelBeforeZod
Jul 19th, 2002
10:19:42 AM
I've been silent through the various scoops. I like the actors involved. Lord knows Ang Lee is more than capable. I accepted the naked Hulk. I didn't really want the Hulk Dogs, but ok. David Banner as Absorbing Man? What the... alright, alright. All in the name of film. But this scoop is the straw that breaks the camel's back. If all of these script rumors are true, they should drop the "Hulk" title from the film because a HULK movie is not really being made... a Hulking piece of shit is being made.
Hulk and Hulk sequel
by Zen Man
Jul 19th, 2002
10:27:55 AM
It should go like this.... Hulk: Bruces Banner recieves a huge over dose of gamma radiation that transforms him into an incredibly powerful, raging monster. The army, led by Gen T-Bolt Ross tries to stop the rampaging beast. Several small battles lead up to a blockbuster clash between the Hulk and the military. Only goof friend and lab assistant Rick Jones can appeal to the last shard of humanity within the Hulk and prevent the beast from destroying every thing in his path. The Hulk reverts to Banner and he, along with his assistant Rick Jones, take off to find a cure for Banner's affliction. Hulk II: After a year on the run, Banner and Rick Jones turn up in a small Arizona town only to be assaulted by a very well armed task force. Their advanced weapons subdue Banner before he can change into the Hulk. He wakes up in a lab as a prisoner of...The Leader! The Leader was a reseach assistant under Banner but he was transformed along with Banner in the same gamma accident. The Leader's advanced intellect and subsequent insanity drive him to create a Hulk of his own to use as a weapon of mass destruction. The Leader begins horrible experiments on Banner, taking DNA and crap in order to clone his own monster. The newly created beast turns out to be...The Abomination! The powerful creature turns out to be uncontrollable! It breaks free of the lab, seemingly killing the Leader and makes its way toward downtown Phoenix! The monster rampages its way through the city, destroying everything it sees. Meanwhile back at the wrecked lab, Rick Jones discovers his friend Banner near dead after the Leader's experiment. Rick knows that only a Hulk transformation can save Banner and stop the Abomination. In a dramatic scene, Rick starts to beat Banner with his fists in order to rouse the Hulk within. After dozens of blows Banner, still attached to the Leader's monitoring equipment, the heart monitor runs flat. Scene shift to the Abomination ripping tanks apart and snatching helicopters from the sky. He is just about to bring down a skyscraper with his bare hands when a huge green fist smashes it across the street. The Hulk has arrived! A huge battle of titans is waged. The Hulk beats the Abomination into submission and in a rage, turns on the city. Rick Jones bravely steps in front of the rampaging monster in an attempt to calm the Hulk. After tense minutes, Hulk reverts back to Banner and Rick quickly spirits his friend away. Meanwhile the military swoops in to take custody of the fallen Abomination. Days later Rick and Banner are on the run again. Off to another remote place to continue the search for a cure. Scene shift to a government lab where Dr. Jennifer Walters is examining the Abomination's lifeless body....
hulk?
by deanbarry
Jul 19th, 2002
10:29:27 AM
hulk?
by deanbarry
Jul 19th, 2002
10:30:57 AM
Has Ang Lee even heard of The Hulk before???? it'll be pretty......but not what we want!
It's obvious that nobody working on this knows or cares much
by extremetidal
Jul 19th, 2002
11:27:53 AM
OK, so I have faith that Ang Lee can deliver a kick-ass action movie with style on HULK, but whoever wrote this screenplay doesn't know diddly-shit about the Hulk or the demi-science behind it. I've read reports of Hulk dogs, Papa Hulk, Hulk mosquitos, you name it. And now, we get a female Hulk. OK, for those of you who know the Hulk, you'll remember that it's been stated time and again in the books that it's not just any living thing who Hulks out after being exposed to gamma radiation. Maybe 99% of all life is KILLED by it. Only a very few have the genetic predisposition for the mutagenic changes that constitute Hulking out. That means Banner, who had the right genes (and I don't mean the ones that never rip at the crotch!), turned into a Hulk at the original gamma bomb blast, but nothing else lived through it. The only female Hulk I know of is She-Hulk, who Hulked out because she was related to Banner, and therefore, you guessed it, possessed similar genetics. I hope to God they scrap the Hulk dogs. It just doesn't follow the general idea. I will still see this movie, cause I admire Lee a lot, but I hope he gets it right.
What's the OBSESSION with her breast?
by Lauryn2000
Jul 19th, 2002
11:47:27 AM
Shouldn't we more concerned on keeping the Hulk..the Hulk.I never understood why they even did a comic on a green FEMALE-Hulk in the first place.And all someone is worried about is HOW big her breasts are going to be??Go get a BLOW-UP doll and stick to the problem at hand...NO SHE-HULK or her breast in The Hulk!!
True Hulk???
by apocalypse2012
Jul 19th, 2002
11:55:03 AM
I am the biggest fan of the Hulk there is. Childhood hero above all others. But come the fuck on people. The Hulk has already been prostituted to the ends of the earth. The biggest sell out of the Hulk was the comic. Many may disagree with me, but even the television show was more true to the original tragic monster/hero concept. The grey hulk, the new green hulk that is now a genius, come on. The comic itself has become a self parity with no integrity to the original premise. I still stand behind Ang Lee for this film because I believe he will sell the tragedy of this story. Every thing else is window dressing. If he can make me identify with Bruce Banner and the Hulk, I dont care if he has a flying circus of she-hulk prostitutes!!!
Hulk Smash Puny Talkbackers!
by Der Hulk
Jul 19th, 2002
11:56:52 AM
Hulk jump to moon and bring back big ass moon rock to crack talkbackers skulls open like rotten walnut! Hulk need woman! Hulk need dogs! Can't help it if towels are dogs favorite food! Hulk love Ang! Give Hulk green tea and california roll! Now Hulk amped up on caffeine and seaweed! Even crappy script tweaks can't stop Hulk now! HULK DESTROY THE WHOLE EARTH!!! Me meeting Zzzax and The Leader for coffee. Write more later.
Why is anyone believing this report?
by BraveCapt.
Jul 19th, 2002
12:00:05 PM
What credibility does "a language student from Asia" with "sources" carry in regards to this film? We'll have to wait a year to see I suppose, but right now this is as dubious a source as you can get. And if anyone thinks that Stan Lee still has creative input over ANYTHING Marvel related, well, you're a true "true believer" and God bless ya for it.
Superman/Batman
by RJ
Jul 19th, 2002
12:18:53 PM
Any new poop on the casting of these two immortal characters? Please tell me that the "bobbsy twins" Matt Damon & Ben Affleck are not being considered! By the way, any new info on Batman Year One?
Ang Lee apparently has Schumacher's disease
by RJ
Jul 19th, 2002
12:23:44 PM
Lack of respect for the source material was the downfall of JS's Batman flicks. Remember his comment "after all, it's just a comic book"? I'm afraid Ang Lee's attitude toward the Hulk may drop the film into the same quagmire.
The Hulk movie doesn't need to be 100% faithful to the origi
by Kikstad
Jul 19th, 2002
12:26:47 PM
The Hulk has gone through so many storylines and changes, it's not like other comicbook superhero tales that can be seriously hurt by unfaithful adaptations. The TV series worked and it was a dramatic change from the comicbook. I'm glad Ang Lee and everyone involved is taking chances with this film but hopefully remaining true to the CHARACTER of Dr. Bruce Banner, his alter-ego the Hulk, and the supporting characters (Betty, Thunderbolt Ross, Talbot -- anyone know if the character of Rick Jones has an appearance or Doc Samson?) This movie will be full of interesting ideas, but at the core, it's all about Banner. If that's solid, and the creature is believable, this film won't disappoint me.
Let's watch the movie, kids.
by Christopher3
Jul 19th, 2002
12:29:21 PM
"X-Men" should have taught you guys a lesson to hold your tongue. Guess not.
Hulks origins are tired anyhow
by Ciller
Jul 19th, 2002
12:30:09 PM
Im sure Ang Lee has a good idea of what he is doing and Im sure the script is something that he thinks speaks to the viewer. The importance of the Hulk is its emotional context, not the action or how many other "hulk" things are about.. This story is about Bruce Banner and his fight with his alternate side. What may make this aspect of the story even more compelling is when he has to fight his anger, against the people who were responsible for his hulk powers. His anger will be justified but he knows it is wrong for him to become the Hulk and destroy things and possibly kill people. Ang Lee is a director who builds and conveys emotions well, I think that is what we will see in this movie.
VERY Old News
by Talking_Machine
Jul 19th, 2002
12:38:36 PM
Hey, sorry bud, but this was reported many, many months ago over on Coming Attractions and CHUD. There was supposed to be three people exposed in the gamma dome (bah). One was a woman. The woman dies in the script. The other guy originally was suppposed to be the Leader. So far, the Hulk movie sounds terrible. Taking the bomb away took a great deal away from the concept. Now it is more Ang Lee's version of the TV Hulk. Has the guy really ever read the comics?
Der Hulk! Holy Shit that was Funny!
by The Hillbrothers
Jul 19th, 2002
12:41:02 PM
purple pants
by Trevor Goodchild
Jul 19th, 2002
12:54:19 PM
Which part of 'based on' do you not understand . If they stayed 100% faithful you'd end up with a big budget version of the T.V series. Where a 7ft bodybuilder miraculously had the same waist size as a 5'6 lab technician. I can't wait to see a big green cock swinging between his legs as he leaps over SWAT teams.
Boring Sensible Post
by eoghann
Jul 19th, 2002
01:01:05 PM
Oh come on people calm down a little. I'm about as big a fan of the Hulk as you can get, but the bomb origin is not irreplaceable. The core of the Incredible Hulk is about this straightlaced guy who tightly controls his emotions and this rampaging monster that gets let loose displaying his darker side. If you've read the comics then you should know that the Hulk has metamorphosed numerous times from the original gray skinned evil genius, to a green skinned angry moron, to a gray skinned semi-smart bad guy, to a green skinned genius, to his current green skinnned monster persona. Stop leaping on tiny little snippets entirely out of context and building a complete fantasy film around them.
A movie that will blow and suck simultaneously.
by MasterShake
Jul 19th, 2002
01:20:09 PM
I can take a few deviations from the Hulk's origin,but when I heard that Nick(I-drink-my-urine)Nolte was cast as Banner's father, who was also a Hulk(or Absorbing Man-who the fuck cares),that was when I realized that Ang Lee's "vision" has cataracts. He wants to make art, and it has to have his spin on it.The Hulk story isn't artsy enough. It's about pain, suffering, and major ass kicking. Now we'll see a bunch of slo-mo camera pans and crappy wire work instead of real action like in Crouching Bore, Hidden Plot. Now we hear about Hulk dogs, a she-hulk, and who knows what other crap thrown in. If even half the rumors are true, I will not see this movie and I hope that all true Hulk fans won't either. The only way these Hollywood hacks will get the message is if the movie doesn't make enough profit to warrant a series of sequels.
whoa!
by RJ
Jul 19th, 2002
01:20:34 PM
What did I start here? I don't have problem with Lee making some changes to the history of the Hulk. What I object to is the idea that the creation of the Hulk was all a result of another round of unsuccessful "super sol-dier experiments by those ever present "evil government agen-cies"so overused in everythhing from Alien to (yuk) Jason X. Believe me, I'd never want the movie to become a clone of the TV show which was a clone of "The Fugitive which begat Kung Fu, which begat the Hulk and on and on and on...
The most faithful comic superhero adaptation EVER is...
by Andel Crodo
Jul 19th, 2002
01:21:09 PM
...a milk commercial. Y'know, the one where the milkman gets sucked up by a welcome mat and plops down in front of the Avengers. A commercial for milk. I think I'd rather see a 90 minute version of the milk commercial instead of this "reimagined" stuff. A commercial for milk. Pretty fooking sad when a milk commercial is more faithful to the source material than anything else ever caught on film. A commercial for milk. Got milk? I hope Ang does.
I doubt it's true - it's CRAZY
by KONG33
Jul 19th, 2002
01:24:38 PM
She-Hulk? That conceptual piece of trash? How did she ever survive in comics?
Credible sources
by Jango Matt
Jul 19th, 2002
01:59:03 PM
Why the hell am I gonna believe some guy who says he has "Sources" and is halfway around the world from where this film is shooting?!?!?!? And on another note..what this about Batman being a drug addict and Alfred being black? WTF?
X-Men
by Jango Matt
Jul 19th, 2002
02:05:38 PM
I agree with the poster above...I cant' wait to see Hulk's big green shlong whipping around and decapitating people. Shit, does that make me gay? (Not that their's anything wrong with that)
X-Men
by Jango Matt
Jul 19th, 2002
02:06:50 PM
Oh, and they should have gotten Bryan Singer to direct The Hulk.
Yet another another one if my anti hulk diatribes
by Aquafresh
Jul 19th, 2002
02:22:46 PM
I know I keep saying this, but really people, chill out. Keeping the Hulk true to his comic origins would make a TERRIBLE film in my opinion. Do you really think the average movie goer is going to accept a serious action/drama about a man who survives what is basically a nuclear explosion and is transformed into a giant green man who wears purple pants as a result? And has an arch enemy who has a GIANT GREEN HEAD? No, they wont. Will they accept Ang lee's special effects extrvavganza featuring two of the best actors currently working? (Bana and Connely) Yes, they will. It will be a mega hit, it will be well crafted and acted, and you fanboy purists will have to shut the fuck up. I understand that you feel your beloved character is being violated, if Spider-Man had been that unfaithful, I would have been bummed. But, Spider-Man is a different character, and obviously his story works for a more literal adaption. I personally feel that the Hulk does not. Flame me if you must.
Just because someone is an oscar winner doesn't make him rig
by DevilCat
Jul 19th, 2002
02:25:31 PM
Lorenzo Semple Jr. wrote "Serpico." He also wrote the 1960s "Batman" series. Akiva Goldsmith wrote "A Beautiful Mind." He also wrote "Batman and Robin." The fact that Ang Lee has a good track record in other genres does not make him a lock for knowing how to handle this genre.
Fuck this! let's see a SAVAGE DRAGON movie!!
by 81666
Jul 19th, 2002
02:37:25 PM
sure it's seen as a hulk rip off, but done right and as funny as crazy as the book is and as strange as dragon himself looks would kick ass. -81666
I agree, devilcat
by Aquafresh
Jul 19th, 2002
02:46:09 PM
Ang is a strange choice for this film, and it may not work. But, I feel that at the very least, it will be an interesting failure. Whereas a "literal" translation of the comic would just be childish and silly. End of rant.
Trevor Goodchild
by WeedyMcSmokey
Jul 19th, 2002
02:52:06 PM
You can't wait to see a big green cock swinging between his legs as he leaps over SWAT teams?
You know, I'm sure this is all fanboy rumor shit; all of it.
by ARGH!
Jul 19th, 2002
02:59:24 PM
That Year One review was a fake, they later posted an apology, so your mission is pointless. Fanboys need to stop going on mindless witchhunts soley based on lame fan fiction that's presented adequetly enough that it fools Harry "the Brain" Knowles. Remember, you're role in the universe has to be more important than deticating all of your time and energy into bitching.
Does anyone still believe this won't suck?
by The Continental
Jul 19th, 2002
03:19:17 PM
This movie is firmly packed in a hell bound hand basket. This is what happens when you use CG instead of Lou Ferrigno.
hear,hear!
by RJ
Jul 19th, 2002
03:26:10 PM
Image is indeed dead and thank the gods! Does anyone else think that Rob Leifeld is the shittiest draftsman to come down the pike in twenty years? Is he still doing anything in comics? Please let me know what, so that I can avoid it like the fucking plague!
I KNEW IT ! I knew it ! I knew it
by Frenchnick
Jul 19th, 2002
04:06:28 PM
RANT ! SCREECH ! GASP ! YELL ! GURGLE ! HOLLER ! GROWL ! RAVE ! SCREAM ! And them some...
Japan
by jennababe
Jul 19th, 2002
04:42:34 PM
I spent my childhood in Japan, and believe me, The Hulk is very well known over there (Choujin Haruku). The TV series did air in Japan and also did the fake looking Spiderman back in the late Seventies early Eighties. I remember vividly being scared out of my mind whenever the guy started trembling to turn into the Hulk. There are fanboys everywhere around the world; Japan, Korea, Thailand or what have you. I can name 10 friends right off the bat here in the States who don't know who Bruce Banner is from Adam. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, there's gonna be some fanboy in Antarctica who'll be pissed that the film isn't loyal to the original comic book.
...and a whine, whine, here, and a bytch, whine there...
by FlickChick
Jul 19th, 2002
04:43:08 PM
Okay, so we've had good ol' American directors do comic book-based films...The Punisher, Batman Forever...and you whine. We get a GREAT director to helm the HULK and (you guessed it!) you whine. You haven't seen the film and yet, you whine. You have no idea how this She-Hulk, or these hulk-dogs will be conceptualized, EXCEPT by the word of some anonymous "scooper", and yet you whine... I guess I should just keep reminding myself what website this is, and go back to lurking and laughing at all the... Whining.
Ocho
by Andel Crodo
Jul 19th, 2002
04:57:57 PM
"Do you really think the average movie goer is going to accept a serious action/drama about a man who survives what is basically a nuclear explosion and is transformed into a giant green man who wears purple pants as a result?" ... Dunno, but would like to try. Heck, would you believe that the average movie goer can accept a serious action/drama about a man who survives what is basically a ravage attack by a ferocious animal and is transformed into a giant furry humannoid who can only be killed by silver as a result? - - - - - - - "And has an arch enemy who has a GIANT GREEN HEAD?" ... A giant green head just like the protagonist in the same film, only smarter? BTW, the Leader isn't in this film (even though he should be). - - - - - - - - "you fanboy purists will have to shut the fuck up." ::snip:: "if Spider-Man had been that unfaithful, I would have been bummed." ... Not very consistent with your argument there, are you, Ocho?
So?
by Atlantis2001
Jul 19th, 2002
04:58:13 PM
I thought "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" was too artsy and had an anti-climatic ending,even though the visuals were great.This will probley be the same deal.It seems to me Ang doesn't know what the deal is with the Hulk,what makes him special and is going WAYYYYYYYYYYYY off the story line. But really,I can't judge until I see the final product.
Yeah! Let's talk about Image for a minute..
by MrPeanut
Jul 19th, 2002
04:58:48 PM
They were right about MArvel and DC ripping off creators and keeping rights (and profits) unfairly. But then they went out and made a bunch of overproduced comics with cookie-cutter characters, thus defeating the purpose of owning the rights to begin with. Is anyone clamoring for a YOUNGBLOOD movie? I would trade every image comic ever published for another twelve issues of X-Men by Jim Lee, or for another few issues of spider-man with McFarlane doing the art, and nothing else!
Bah! Fanboys Brains Mushy Like Mr. Fantastic On Xanax! Hulk DE
by Der Hulk
Jul 19th, 2002
05:01:23 PM
Hulk eat fanboys for breakfast! (Not now though... Hulk full on decaf espresso and blueberry scones) Only thing more incredible than Hulk is fanboys complete lack of faith! Hulk super famous on Asian continent! Bruce Banner striking out nightly, but that piss him off and then HULK TAP THAT ASS! Hulk's dogs hungry now. Hulk go to Bed Bath & Beyond. (Beyond section Hulk's favorite!)
I can't believe...
by Zone Zero
Jul 19th, 2002
05:14:25 PM
...how much BS floats in this toilet called Aint It Cool News, and the people here BITE IT! Moriarty, friend, I know you have a tight reign on the scoops you get, but PLEASE, run it through a BS filter first? I mean come on! This page always thinks so GODDAMN negatively. I remember when you guys were bellyaching over Spider-Man and X-Men. Look how those movies blew up huge at the box office? Something tells me that with all the negative hype, that The Hulk will beat Titanic's records! I wonder, all the stuff that got you guys moaning the death of movies is nothing more than a COMPETITOR'S plant or worse, some over fed troll who has nothing better to do with his day. (end of rant)
More changes to the original
by mascan
Jul 19th, 2002
06:13:28 PM
This is sounding more and more like Lee's movie will be a "re-imagining" of the original premise. We all know what happened last time we heard that.
Zone Zero, your prediction seems quite sound.
by scorpio2nd
Jul 19th, 2002
06:23:32 PM
It certainly has the Titanic formula, love story that pit two people against all odds, complete and utter destruction back to back for a good 40 minutes at least, Unmissable special effects, a troubled production, appealing lead actors (ok there's nothing for the teen factor but i don't know what the hell they go for these days). Plus, the audience i saw it with friggin loved the teaser. If the release date is moved back from summer to christmas (as the boat movie was) then you're right on the money. The moaners won't admit it but they'll flock to see it just so the Fantastic Four movie gets made, a worthy cause.
Speaking Of Strange
by Drop Johnson
Jul 19th, 2002
06:31:27 PM
I wish there was a Dr. Strange cameo. I'd be more excited. Why is the notion of The or A 'She Hulk' so strange? I was expecting that way before I was expecting the Absorbing Man and Papa Banner to be merged into the same person. Hell I was expecting the Jolly Green breasted one to be thrown into the mix before I even knew who Eric Bana was. Feh, I say.. FEH!
huh?
by BuLLeT_TiMe
Jul 19th, 2002
06:43:05 PM
"From the descriptions he's given I'm not terribly interested. A Spawn film where Spawn is hardly in it? Where he's like a background story that is almost entirely hidden in shadows? I can just see him talking about it "I'm so fucking good I don't even have to SHOW my character onscreen!" I would tread lightly here Todd." Um...Why would that be bad? Have you not seen the HBO cartoons? That's the same thing. And I thought those were great. If they made an animated movie of Spawn using the same people who made the show, I'd be one happy S.O.B..
Nerds, all of you
by cranapple66
Jul 19th, 2002
07:25:18 PM
Okay, all of you who believe in only a strict literal interpretation of the holy writ that is Marvel Comics--why? If you want the "true" story of the Hulk, you already have the comic books. Why do you need to see a filmed version of the comic book? You already have the comic book. If you want to see the only true holy and apostolic Hulk read the comic book. Read the comic book again. A film will be different. There is no way around that. Ang Lee and James Shamus have a lot of experience with adaptations--The Ice Storm, Ride With the Devil, Crouching Tiger. (Sense and Sensibility was written by Emma Thompson) They are always loyal to the themes of the source material, they adapt it to film. These guys know what their doing. Comic books are great, but they work as comic books. They are a unique art form--as is film. You can't turn a comic book into a film (in the literal way you guys want it) in the same you can't make a film version of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.
Andel, I realize my statements had some inherent contradictions.
by Aquafresh
Jul 19th, 2002
07:27:44 PM
...what I meant to express was that in my opinion, Spider-Man's story didn't need any tweaking to be effective, cinematically. You didn't hear me bitching about the changes they made. The Hulk has always has his story tweaked with; like Batman, its hard to determine a "definitive" version of the character. In my mind, that gives people a lot of creative leeway when it comes to adapting the character to the screen. I understand the concerns of the fans, but I would suggest holding off judgement until we see the final product. Personally, for me it hinges on how cool the cgi Hulk is, and how entertaining the film is on the whole. And I still stand by my statement about the Leader being too ridiculous looking. I suppose the character would work without the giant head & John Waters moustache. But the fans would still bitch. Anyway, your statements about my posts were valid, I just wanted to clarify my points. Everyone has their stupid opinions, & I am certainly no exception.
I am sick and tired of this
by Harrierthanthee
Jul 19th, 2002
08:05:58 PM
Too often have people turned good comic books or books and made them something else. I hope this won't be another one of those. Oh well, what ja gonna do
this could be good
by silent_light
Jul 19th, 2002
09:13:00 PM
Ang Lee is one of the best film makers EVER. Since most people on this board are complaining, thats a VERY good sign it will be a masterwork.
The myth of the mini-Asian is true
by PaulSnider
Jul 19th, 2002
09:14:47 PM
Across the land, every guy knows that Asians don't have it where it counts. They're small. It is a locker room thing. I think that's why The Hulk will be so successful overseas. It is the world they'll never know.
This Hulk film is going to be stupid.
by Steal_Dragon
Jul 19th, 2002
09:43:41 PM
Weird, everybody thought that Sam would mess up Spider-Man, but it turns out that Ang is going to screw up Hulk. The Crouching Tiger guy. Crazy.
"What is smells like crap?"
by Damer1
Jul 19th, 2002
10:18:07 PM
The Jeopardy answer to this rumor.
Welcome to Eltingville.
by Christopher3
Jul 19th, 2002
10:21:46 PM
Shall we discuss the surrealist tendencies of Goddard, Barney and Taymor? I thought not. Baseless complaints and racist comments to resume in 3, 2, 1...
Jennifer Connelly?
by niveknivek
Jul 19th, 2002
10:32:38 PM
Isn't she supposed to be in this film? If there are any exposed breasts in this movie, they should be hers. They could turn the Hulk into a gay fashion designer for all I care as long as we get to see Ms. Connelly naked.
Yeah, Whoah, That Is Really Shocking
by NoCureForFools
Jul 19th, 2002
10:53:18 PM
I don't think i've been this amazed since i saw that brown dog the other day. wow.
rolls eyes...
by Zone Zero
Jul 20th, 2002
12:59:45 AM
Does the bytching ever end? Thanks to the guy that actually agreed with me. It's nice to know that I'm not completely off the chain with my opinions. Yeah, I'm the page's resident nut, but I'm crazy like a fox. You guys aren't going to get the studio to stop making the movie, so stop your bellyaching and buck up little mister. Find some other worthy cause to fight for. Like ending hunger or some happy horses**t like that. (End of Rant)
SHE-HULK BABY!!!
by Spelunker Gregg
Jul 20th, 2002
01:01:42 AM
Go back through the talkbacks regarding the Hulk! I been predicting this silly, silly move! Oh well, here you guys go: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ manicsangels/?yguid=68253127 , and here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ manicarchives/?yguid=68253127 - some good artwork in regards to the She-Hulk. And plenty of nudity for those die-hard fist pounders who need to smear man sherbert on their walls on a pair of green titties bursting from a Haynes Her Way.
On This Note...
by Spelunker Gregg
Jul 20th, 2002
01:48:21 AM
...A She-Hulk appearance could only be serviced as the end-result of an Experiment gone awry, as conducted by none other than...ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD! "Tiffany my dear...your showing a little more cheek than usual."
Hulk Sluts will accept anything
by jefffettes
Jul 20th, 2002
03:07:47 AM
I'm surprised that so many people out there are so desperate for a Hulk movie they will accept *anything* as long as the final product is "good". They want a movie with the title Hulk, in the theatres, and that's all that matters. I don't get it. This film may well be brilliant, but it's obviously another example of jacking the name up and sliding a new character undernieth. I don't know about the rest of you but I was hoping to the the character "The Hulk". Any green gamma-monster with the same name will not do. What amazes me the most is the ego directors have when they think they can *improve* on a character who has been popular for 40 years and already become an icon. The Hulk, as is, has resonated with audiences for a long time. Clearly the concepts work and don't need to be changed. Instead, why not bring the complete story as told in the comic for a much larger audience to enjoy? Following the comics as faithfully as possible (given a different medium) means you are working with ideas that have been proven successes for 40 years. Sure, if you change them you *might* come up with something as good but there's a greater chance the "new version" will be inferior. It doesn't matter if this is the greatest film ever made...from the sounds of it, it's not the Hulk.
Now I have to see this movie...
by Steal_Dragon
Jul 20th, 2002
03:42:49 AM
There are so many rumors about this movie and not alot of script reviews. I said before Ang Lee will mess up Hulk, but I heard on some site that half of the stuff said about this movie were rumors. Can't wait till this movie comes out.
Also have a theme song I can hum to.
by Steal_Dragon
Jul 20th, 2002
03:55:17 AM
Can you believe that the last great theme song to a superhero movie was 1989 with Batman, that is sad. So HULK and DAREDEVIL people have a good theme song. Danny Elfman failed me with that crappy Spider-Man theme song I can barely remember and whoever did the X-Men theme song that was sad too. Get the people that did Gargoyles or X-Men the first animated cartoon. Now those were great theme songs.
If you want a comic book movie score done right then you need Wi
by scorpio2nd
Jul 20th, 2002
08:53:13 AM
J. Connelly and Ang Lee
by Darth Pixel
Jul 20th, 2002
01:28:38 PM
It could be worth my money - but, because of them. I am not into comic books, and could care less if they had the Dancing Ito's for the villains... fuck, that shit would OWN! But, J.Connelly and Ang Lee have my support.
I think it would be cooler if the Hulk had a bomb in his ribcage
by BigW
Jul 20th, 2002
03:59:57 PM
Nuff' said.
RJ: www.canoe.ca reported last week that Batman may be played by
by BigW
Jul 20th, 2002
04:01:31 PM
That's all the info I have heard.
No frikkin way
by Beyonder
Jul 20th, 2002
05:27:01 PM
This is unsubstantiated. I'm sure this is just a rumor and won't actually happen. There is no way Ang Lee would have more than one hulk in the movie, if that were the case he would've been smart and gone with the Abomination character. I mean, that would be like casting a tall character in X-Men and making Wolverine over 6 feet tall! Oh, wait... Heaven help us.
springheel jack
by 81666
Jul 20th, 2002
08:56:04 PM
no question the writing on spawn is terrible as the artwork and dialogue was on shadowhawk (although i figure the shadowhawk suit; if done right and given a good script could make a decent batman popcorn rip-off.) savage dragon i feel as cheeseball as it is had a weird continuity to it from the beginning as a tongue in cheek *hero* movie. i dunno that's what i feel. spawn was shit, anyone could tell when they had the motorcycle versus truck sequence. -81666
If Bale is Batman, get Crudup for Supes.
by Christopher3
Jul 20th, 2002
09:53:44 PM
I wanna see a battle between two strung-out yuppie scum.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS MISSED THE POINT HERE: 36B to 38DD!
by jackburtonlives
Jul 21st, 2002
12:03:40 AM
how much does it cost for a blast of that... what's it called... "gamma radiation"? i'm going feed my girlfriend a healthy dose of that shit! this is the best news i've heard in ages! what is everyone bitching about????
Geez...
by Doctor 13
Jul 21st, 2002
01:08:27 AM
Typical whining fanboy nonsense. Who cares if there are Hulkdogs or even a She-Hulk in this movie? Ang Lee is a quality filmmaker, and all I'm hoping for is a great story, great acting and great sfx. None of you know enough about this film to condemn it. Give the whining a rest, and wait until you either know a lot more about the film or (here's an original thought) until you've SEEN THE FILM!
Good-bye to Talkbacks
by Voice O. Reason
Jul 21st, 2002
01:19:52 AM
I fear talkbacks have become nothing but anonymous internet users bitching about everything and anything they can. To those of you who still think there can ever be intelligent discussion on these things: GOOD LUCK. You've got more patience than I do. To the rest of you who come out of the wood-work to bitch about every rumor, and critize just for the sake of feeling powerful: GO TO HELL. When you're wrong about something, all you have to do is change your user-name and pretend to be someone else. There's no accountability. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to participate with you ignorant fuckers for one more second.
Oy. As in "Vey." If they really want to. . .
by DarkHawke
Jul 21st, 2002
02:53:53 AM
. . . fuck with the Hulk's origin this much, why don't they just get Mark Millar to do it. Anyone else here been reading The Ultimates? In a nutshell, it's Marvel's "Ultimate" universe "re-imagining" of the Avengers, with one major difference from all the other "re-imaginings" out there: this one ROCKS the house! In this version, Banner is the head of a team charged with replicating the long-lost Super Soldier formula that created Captain America some 60 years ago. Because of the pressure put on him to show results, Banner injected himself with a prototype formula that made him the Hulk (which isn't shown in the book). Later, after having been demoted for his failure and after Cap is found and defrosted, Banner, heartsick over his inadequacies and the trial separation between him and his fiance, Betty Ross, mixes the bad SS serum with some of Cap's SS-infused blood, shoots up with it and BINGO! It's Hulk-time again! But this is no half-good guy, pantywaist Hulk! His rampage kills a couple dozen people and if he'd gotten a chance to do half the things to Betty he said he wanted to, she'd probably prefer death! I'm tellin' ya, this was one off-the-hook Hulk! Grab issue #5 of The Ultimates and enjoy. Damn thing both reads and looks like it's the comic version of a forthcoming movie! Re: all this "actual" Hulk movie rumor-mongering, well, I hope exactly NONE of them are true. I think the point that many others made above (or below, depending on where this post gets placed!) is more than valid: you stray too far from the source material, you end up with something vastly different than you were expected to deliver. Bana may be able to deliver the goods, and I know Connelly is the shit, but Ang Lee? Only seen "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," and my, what an overrated piece of shite that was! Maybe it's just assumed in Hong Kong action flicks (and if it was the intent for this movie to be in that genre, it was the gayest Hong Kong action flick of all time!) that folks can defy physics as they please, but I wouldn't have minded an EXPLANATION of all that wall-running and balancing on waving tree branches shit. For my hard-earned, the Matrix's action sequences walk all over CTHD's, and at least they had the common decency to TELL US why the laws of nature went on holiday in the "real" world. That rant out of the way, I don't even like the things I'm reading from Lee's own mouth. "There's a Hulk in all of us?" Oooooo-kay! Good luck with that! As good as the Hulk TV show was (and it was very good), I like my comic-book superheroes to be comic-book superheroes, as written and with all the powers and backstory intact. You can make a fudge here or there so the movie doesn't come off as dated or a self-parody, but dammit, respect the spirit, if not the letter, of the law! It's one thing for Superman to have Marlon Brando as a father and have a green crystal make the Fortress of Solitude. It's quite another for him to be a human and unlock his "powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men" by using transendental mediation or something, and have the director claim, "well, we're all alien to ourselves and others, aren't we?" >B-)
Hulk Still Too Early To Tell Anything...
by AmazinSpider-Fan
Jul 21st, 2002
03:56:10 PM
For many comic book fans, whenever a movie based on a classic character comes out, there are stages one goes through...first there is joy, then extreme doubt, then this is where the road is forked, a person can be a pissy little nerd and "oh it's going to suck b/c i could have made it sooo much better." no nerd can back what they say in this sence. The other road a person can take is to TRUST the director and his creative liscence. Before Spider-man came out, people berated it up and down: "toby mcguire! he'd be horrible!...or...Organic Webshooters???? are they crazy???...and better still...Armor for the Green Goblin?? what are they thinking??" and yet, for those of us not stubborn enough to refuse this movie, it TOTALLY ROCKED, so i say...trust Ang Lee...Stan the Man wouldn't have signed on if he thought this guy was gonna blow it...so just suck up your rediculous little piss worries and give the man a chance! Your Friendly Neigborhood Spider-Fan! Excelsior!
I trust Ang Lee
by joeypogi
Jul 22nd, 2002
12:13:29 PM
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plant!
by Hud
Jul 22nd, 2002
01:09:40 PM
as you bloody well know.
The shitty objectification of women.
by McCormic
Jul 22nd, 2002
07:36:47 PM
I'm getting really tired of this site.
You people make me laugh.
by FaZe
Jul 22nd, 2002
09:01:04 PM
Its like my own private comedy show. :) you're all complaining as if you actually believe the story. Ahahaha, do us all a favour, get a sense of humor and LET IT GO. "And thats all i have to say about that."
Suspension of disbelief
by jackburtonlives
Jul 23rd, 2002
12:50:32 AM
i've got a question. it may seem a bit stupid seeing that everyone is so freaked out and incredulous about the appearance of a female hulk. of course, they have no trouble, as one talkbacker observed, with believing that a man has survived what is basically a nuclear explosion, turns into a green giant wearing purple trousers when he gets angry and whose nemesis is basically a floating head. but my question is different: what would banner's girlfriend/wife/lover say when she discovered his "cache" of purple pants locked in some secret drawer/closet. i mean after all if after every attack he wakes up wearing purple trousers, he would have to put them somewhere, right? so how would he account for this to his spouse? a purple pant fetish? i'm losing sleep over this one. maybe someone can help me out on this.
Ang's films big in Asia???
by Chipwich
Jul 23rd, 2002
11:36:10 AM
Yeah, ICE STORM, RIDE WITH THE DEVIL and SENSE AND SENSIBILITY shattered records in Hong Kong. Please.....
Wahh!
by swataz
Aug 19th, 2002
03:29:31 PM
Jesus Christ. I jumped teh shark with the comic years ago because it became ludicrous. So what if they take a few liberties to what the purists believe is the "right" Hulk movie stroyline. God knows the comic did (can you say Mr. Fix-It?). We all knew that it wasn't gonna be a retro, flash back to the cold war kinda film, so unless they completely f*** with the character, deviating from his core features, then I say bring on whatever ya got.
Oh, NOW I get it!
by The Monkeyduck
Nov 3rd, 2002
05:17:03 AM
I have sat in wonder at all of my fellow X- fans who vigorously bashed the X- movie, which was (as far as trying to fit thirty plus years of story line into one movie) pretty good. I didn't get it. Now everyone is bashing the Hulk for rumors about rumors well over eight months before it's release. Now I get it. They're uptight. No one is getting laid. This should have occured to me before but it did not. THE TRAILER LOOKS PRETTY GOOD! RUMORS ARE RUMORS! LET THE MOVIE COME OUT BEFORE YOU WET YOUR PANTS IN DISGUST! Breathe!..breathe.
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