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Typical... by Flasheart	Jun 14th, 2002 09:05:13 AM
Hollywwod uses some trite, overused formula to make a really bad film and I get to be first on the talkback. Not on Star Wars or Harry Potter, or any other big name film, but on this piece of shit. Oh wait, you mean I could have stoped typing/reading? Oh well.
IF LIL KIM DOESNT BARE HER INFLATED KNOCKERS THERE IS NO REASON by jon-e-blaze	Jun 14th, 2002 09:06:47 AM

Really? I thought it was going to be good. by fieldingmellish	Jun 14th, 2002 09:07:06 AM
I mean, look at that title.
It just looked bad. by indyhu	Jun 14th, 2002 09:09:36 AM
I felt this movie was gonna be bad from the look of it. I wonder why Hollywood even banks on movies like this.
"Tootsie" - Theatre + Dribbling = "Juwanna Man" by Roj Blake	Jun 14th, 2002 10:06:27 AM
The trailer for this film bears a striking note for note similarity to the Dustin Hoffmann vehicle. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the review. Except "Tootsie" is great..and this looks abyssmal.
Custer? by Zarles	Jun 14th, 2002 10:09:52 AM
I know that this "film" will almost certainly suck ass, but what I really want to know about it is when it will surpass Attack of the Clones' box office take. General Custer, we need you now more than ever...
Tommy Davidson is soooooo funny! by Abyss	Jun 14th, 2002 11:00:23 AM
loud + black = MAXIMUM HILARITY
But the concept was so groundbreaking! by Rain_Dog	Jun 14th, 2002 11:02:20 AM
Whodathunk this movie would turn out to be crap?
Well Indyhu... by Clonetrooper	Jun 14th, 2002 11:04:23 AM
The reason that Hollywood banks on movies like this, bad movies that is, is because they cost relatively small amounts of money to make. And Hollywood producers, not at all concerned with the quality of a film, churn out cheap crap like this to make a quick dollar. These movies are almost guarenteed to make back their budgets. Here's how the meeting goes- "I have this great idea! A MAN has to dress up as a WOMEN so that he can get a job!" "How is that different from Tootsie...or Mrs. Doubtfire?" "This time, the guy is black, and he plays basketball!" "BRILLIANT!!!!"
durhay with some rumblies in his tumbly by durhay	Jun 14th, 2002 11:19:51 AM
This movie sucks. Just look at the title for crying out loud. But still no info on THE BOURNE IDENTITY.
The movie sounds really stupid by KingKrypton	Jun 14th, 2002 11:30:08 AM
But hey, the Fat Joe/Ashanti duet for the film ("What's Love") is pretty good, so I guess it's not a total loss.
When I saw the trailer...I thought it was a Hallucination... by MentallyMariah	Jun 14th, 2002 11:34:25 AM
I did not know they still made movies like this....WOW, they must have allot of extra money to spare in Hollywood while thousands of crackwhores are dying everyday....
sad day for pokey by plastic	Jun 14th, 2002 11:49:41 AM
Do you really need a studio to fork out a fortune for the license rights to used the name of the NBA and WNBA for you to get the message that this guy is playing with the best. . . you sad git. Do what film watchers have been doing since films began and use your imagination. I stopped reading your review after that line. I didn't think it worth the hassle to read on.
that fat ass and ashanti song should be renamed "what's tale by yankeessuck	Jun 14th, 2002 12:00:59 PM
shouldn't all of these hacks be working in porn or something?
Just like Booty Call: The Director's Cut by brother_seamus	Jun 14th, 2002 12:16:27 PM
Why is it that like 99% of all the movies made/marketed for black audiences are aimed at the lowest common denominator? Who's to blame for this? Is is the studio system's fault for only greenlighting pics that are mostly reflective of the negative stereotypical aspects of black society? Even when they are well-made or clever or thought provoking or whatever, they are still usually "hood" stories (Clockers, Friday) or "rap-u-mentaries" (Fear of a Black Hat, The Show.) Should we blame fimmakers who just don't seem to give a shit about acting, directing, a coherent storyline, or anything except the bottom line (How High, Black Knight)? Or do we blame audiences who allow movies like Big Momma's House to make hundreds of millions of dollars domestically? It really makes me angry that when there are really good movies made by black filmmakers or aimed at black audiences like Gridlock'd or The Caveman's Valentine they don't seem to make enough at the BO to warrant trying to make any more so instead we get stuck with shit like Juwanna Man or whatever that Li'l Bow Wow nonsense that's coming out is called. Such a shame.
I hear they're already working on a sequel. by rev_skarekroe	Jun 14th, 2002 12:28:00 PM
They're going to call it "Ivana Tinkle" sk
Juwanna Mann = Mrs. Doubtfire Can't Jump by CoolDan989	Jun 14th, 2002 12:29:58 PM
This one's gonna rip off every crossdresser joke in the book. No thanks, Warner Bros.
The 'Juwanna Mann' remake starring C. Thomas Howell... by Det. John Kimble	Jun 14th, 2002 12:54:30 PM
...as a white high school j.v. basketball benchwarmer who realizes his dream of playing in the WNBA by posing as a black woman will begin filming this summer. Raja Gosnell will helm, with Akiva Goldsman penning the screenplay. - Seriously, though - who greenlights this tripe? The WNBA must be in dire straits if it's allowing this movie to basically treat the league as a joke. Although I hear the WNBA's guitar work on 'Brothers in Arms' is quite moving.
How High by MonkeyBlood	Jun 14th, 2002 01:51:33 PM
How High was funny. I wouldn't put it in the same class as this crap. It was made with some competence and I look forward to seeing Method Man and Redman In some more movies together.
hello by moderator	Jun 14th, 2002 01:53:53 PM
its my first time here on talk back, so i would like to say hi to everyone, and to state that, after having read nearly every film review harry has written, i think he is probably one of the most enthousiastic persons in existence, a genuine nice guy, and i am very much looking foward to his next posted article (greatest spider-man review out there, by the way). this is the best site i have ever visited, and i think that i'm gonna remain among you people for a while (i feel quite comfortable here). as for the transvestite basketball movie, well, i won't even waste any time talking about it.
Hollywood Oh Hollywood, When Will They Ever Learn??? Films Like by The Founder	Jun 14th, 2002 02:29:47 PM
I honestly don't know why Hollywood keep churning out films like these. I'm black and I despise these films. Most of them are garbage, and it makes it 100 times hard for the quality films like along the lines of Undercover Brother to be taken seriously and make some money, as well as black directors, and good screenwriters. I've gone to these type movies and taken white freinds, and I feel so embarrased for Black people, and I know the actors in them must feel even worse. It's sad, because Black actors have a choice, and quality stars like Vivica Fox who has a fan base should throw scripts like these back in the face of the studio. Some black actors complain about the lack of good roles for them, but yet they constantly sign on board for these shipwrecks, and say they have to earn a living, but what they should relize is that change will never come if they keep taking these roles. I don't know why Hollywood doesn't just wake up, and they really think they are doing us a colored folk a favor by making a so called black film, but the truth is MOST BLACK PEOLPE don't want to see these movies. You'd think the people who greenlight these films would get the hint as to why these insulting so called Black comedies don't make any money, but the unfortunatly the budget is so low, that they are bound to turn a small profit. Oh well maybe the future will be better for a film with a black cast, but I'm not going to hold my breath, and Juwanna Man won't get my money.
I Think That Studioes Like Warners Make These Films Just To Do A by The Founder	Jun 14th, 2002 02:51:13 PM
I thought that Soundtracks were supposed to be made to acompany a film, and not the other way around. I mean the soundtrack is going to make more then the movie, which it is in mosrt cases. If you notice, the studioes like Warners or Sony are the ones with record companies that usually make these films. At least Universal actually puts out some decent black films once in a while like Undercover brother or The Best Man, and although High High was insulting, it was made as someone already suggested with some competance, but Universal still could have kept that one. Now we have to put up with the Lil Bow Wow movie coming out, and of course it's about sports, and music, what's next a B2K movie??? I'm not going to bash Bow Wow, cause he's a kid, but the blame falls on Hollywood, specifically Sony(what a surprise)who just fuels the sterotype of balck america, as if we are all about again sports and music. I've heard the movie Like Mike is actually decent, but I won't see it, as to not give Hollywood reasons to continue to make these type films.
"Tommy Davidson provided laughs whenever he was on the screen. ( by PriestYoungblood	Jun 14th, 2002 03:07:15 PM
I don't remember laughing at ANYTHING in the trailer. In fact, I remember wincing and changing the channel. Movies like this make me furious on behalf of black people everywhere. Surprisingly, I never would have thought a movie like this would warrant a review this in-depth. Hm.
gimplad... by PriestYoungblood	Jun 14th, 2002 04:20:12 PM
I didn't want to be the one to tell him. As a man of the cloth, I fear it may be to late for this one. Time will tell. It's always sad when they've just gotten off the bus. . .
This film is being marketed towards the current MTV generation by Triumph the Dog	Jun 14th, 2002 04:25:16 PM
Teens and pre-teens with no discernable taste in film and a prediliction for both basketball and what they THINK is "black" culture (which they developed from MTV and films like "Big Momma's House" and "the Klumps."). That's why they HAVE to keep that PG-13 rating. Few people over the age of 13 would want to see it. The poster who remarked that this film will probably end up being a promotion for the soundtrack (not the other way around) is probably on the money.
Seriously, somewhere someone's job depends on the success of by Skaetur	Jun 14th, 2002 05:37:33 PM
OK, so this is a stupid post. But i feel the need to interject on behalf of the lighting technician who's christmas bonus is based on the work he did for juwanna man. Unless this movie has bullet-time and the guy dodging basketballs filled with the green goo from "The Rock", I ain't ever ever ever gonna see it.
and I thought "Like Mike" would be the worst basketball movie of by Bulldish	Jun 14th, 2002 09:19:20 PM
Juwanna bet on how many Golden Rasberries this piece of shit wins
gimplad, PriestYoungblood... by moderator	Jun 15th, 2002 01:11:27 PM
...I fear that it is already too late to save the innocence of my soul. I already feel the crimson glow of darklight deep within my fibers... must... look... away... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!... the heathens, the non-believers, the light-sinners, all will soon realize that resistance is hopeless, eminence...joyous...
Comming this Summer: "Momma Say MMM MMM MM: The Motion Pictur by MisterKrunchy	Jun 15th, 2002 05:12:39 PM
Hey, folks. An interesting thread has been started in this Talkback, wondering exactly whose fault it is that Black America keeps getting slung a basketball full of crap when it comes to movies made for the African American audience. Now, see, I can tell you and be frank about it as well: I happen to be African American, so I can get nasty where others can't. So who is to blame for all the shameful, shoddy, embarrassing and insulting garbage that is mercilessly aimed at our part of the population? Is it the racist, out-of-touch Tinseltown Exec just out trying to make some money? Is it a monsterously evil underground Caucasian Male government trying to crush all the Bruva's out there just to have him crushed? Or is it, in fact, African Americans themselves who allow it all to happen? Sorry, folks. Its everyone's fault. Now, I don't want to sound like a racist myself, but it has been my experience that there are a lot of White people out there who are scared to death of people of other ethnic groups, with a specific fear of Blacks. Couple this with the inevitable backlash from the other groups, and you end up with this huge gulf between people, a gulf that money-driven Hollywood is too scared to try to ferry. It is a far easier endeavor to have a look at whatever comedian or rap album is most constantly featured on MTV, and then feature the performer or something like it in the movies. Forget quality or integrity, this stuff might just make some money. Black folks? Look, I'll be honest, people: What we're dealing with here is a mix between desperation and frustration, with a touch of confusion added. Desperate to see a Black-driven movie, the AA population is sometimes too satisfied to see SOMETHING on screen as opposed to nothing at all (I think the same thing can be said about science fiction fans. That there has been such a dirth of respectable sci-fi on the air and in theatres explains why stuff like "First Wave" and "Stargate" are such hits, when, in fact, they're all kinda dull). Mix that with the frustration of knowing that the aformentioned White Hollyood exec believes that only White audiences have real money, and that they woudn't pay to see Black people behaving like human beings, then things like "Booty Call" and "Big Momma's House" begin to look like real achievements. Another problem is support from the Black community itself for certain films and TV shows. Anybody remember the flap the Cosby show got, or the big rigamarole about "The Color Purple"? There are many Black Americans (and, for some reason, they seem to be the ones with the readiest access to media outlets) who are convinced that Black life in this country consists entirely of ghetto livin', hating Whitey and representen' who yo baybay mamma day (who fathered your illigitimate child). Folks, I'm not a criminal. I live in the 'burbs, and the only gangs I've ever had to deal with were the teams of military recruiters who came after me after I graduated. If we want to avoid things like "Momma Say MMM MMM MMM: TMP" in the future, then we need to cut the crap and come to some kind of understanding between the colors. Simple as that.
Actually, this may not even be the worst transvestite "comedy" o by Arthur Bannister	Jun 15th, 2002 08:33:10 PM
If you remember, earlier this year, Disney brought us "Sorority Boys" with that guy from "7th Heaven." I have no plans to see either one, so I don't know which is worse. Fortunately, Sorority Boys only grossed $10 million against a $25 million cost, so if this one bombs too, maybe someone will stop greenlighting this crap.
ATROCIOUS by TomVee	Jun 15th, 2002 09:33:00 PM
The title and previews of this movie are astoundingly bad. Who supports this racist throwback crap? And there seems to be a lot of similarly themed pix of late, such as LADIES MAN and BOOTY CALL. What can Hollywood be thinking? Do they hate blacks that much? Do they underestimate the intelligence of moviegoers that much? This is not CHEECH AND CHONG we are dealing with here, as bad as they could be. At least they dreamed up their own shit and played stereotyped characters to their liking.
MisterKrunchy Is Dangerously Correct by Saluki	Jun 15th, 2002 11:07:11 PM
While it is easy to point fingers and blame the influx of this junk on one party, it is essentially all of them combined that have been screwing it all up. The Black community has a habit of defending even the worst of products and the White community has a habit of not offending those products for what they really are. Creating a film which is based on a cultural backdrop, often times the creators take the shortcut and just go for one trait. So where the cast WAS going to be made of people who had different ideals and purposes (and also happen to be all Black) now they are all acting the same. It makes for a consistent film, but offers the viewer NOTHING. I don't want all the characters to be upstanding citizens and I don't want all the characters to be thugs, I want REAL people with real emotions. I think it is time for the the Execs to realize they have NOT conquered and understood the Black culture and I think it is time for the Black community to not only demand more product, but demand BETTER product. This been another message from your friendly-neibourhood-whiteboy.
Oh, Juwanna-Mann isn't ... by floob	Jun 16th, 2002 12:34:43 AM
Some sixth-rate Marvel Comics superhero? Miguel Nu
Sequel Already Greenlighted for 2003 by NotchJohnson	Jun 16th, 2002 01:20:07 AM
Warner Bros. has begun preparation on the sequel to this film. "Jomamma Wear Combat Boots" begins lensing next fall for a summer 2002 release date. Notch out.
Thanks MisterKrunchy, I Needed To Read That, Because More Then E by The Founder	Jun 16th, 2002 04:49:12 AM
I know it's not going to be easy for me to get in, but i'm going to try like hell! I can relate to your post, because like you I grew up in burbs, and so did a good many blacks that I know. I don't even know how this sterotype that all blakcs are from the ghetto even got started. I have to disagree with you on the part where you said that blacks think that all blacks come from the ghetto. What you have to realize about the Cosby show is that the media, specifically a rival network during the era that the Cosby's was on is naturally going to put out comments that they pick up from ignorant African Americans complaining about the the realism of the show as to discredit a sitcom that was highly rated for years, and no other nework could topple. Sure some of the blacks in this country is guilty of helping fuel the sterotypes in Hollywood, but a good deal aren't, and a lot of blacks are opposed to movies like Booty Call or this Juwanna man, and Miguel Nuenz isn't black, he's hispanic, but because he looks black he gets to represent us?, That isn't right. Tommy Davidson will take anything just to work, he is so annoying, and I wonder how he and some others have managed to stay around for so long, I mean I've been to the ghetto, and i've met a lot of black people, and I've never seen any behave in the manner that Davidson is dipicting in this film. The way to end this is for those African American actors to stop taking these roles, and then complain about lack of work or quality roles for blacks, when they are the reason as such, because the excuse that they have to work and they don't have a choice is tired and old, because you always have a choice. In order for Hollywood to cahnge, we are going to have to be the ones to make the change, because white Hollywood isn't going to change on their own.
Hollywood making bad movies isn't about race... by Arthur Bannister	Jun 16th, 2002 12:44:33 PM
...it's about making bad movies. Hollywood makes awful movies for every demographic they make movies for. Look at crap like "Slackers", "40 Days and 40 Nights", "Rollerball", "Resident Evil", "Crossroads", et al. I could list many more, just from this year to date. If Hollywood stops making bad movies aimed at Black audiences, frankly, they're not going to make any movies at all, because to the people greenlighting all this dreck, they can't see any difference between the two. The only way to ensure consistently better movies for black audiences is to just ignore the studios entirely and start making them independently. That's what Spike Lee did, and that's what almost any other filmmaker with any talent and a commitment to making quality movies has to do, white or black. If you have enough mainstream success you can make your own movies with the studios for a while, but even a guy like David Fincher is probably only one bomb away from having to make "Tomb Raider 2" to get his next studio project financed. But guys like Sayles, Altman, and Spike Lee have managed to get themselves started on their own, and then have been able to make the movies they want to make. That's the only way to ensure quality movies these days. Then the audiences just have to make sure they show up enough to keep the filmmakers afloat.
iwannaseeminorityreportiwannasee minorityreport...arrghhh!!i`ve g by drjones	Jun 16th, 2002 03:29:32 PM

This guy, Miguel A. Nunez Jr. was NOT in "Platoon".... by Elgyn6655321	Jun 16th, 2002 05:48:42 PM
....but he WAS in "Return Of the Living Dead", "Friday the 13th, Part V: A New Beginning", and "Leprechaun 4: In Space". Nothing against the guy, but it seems a little strange that Warner Bros. gave him the leading role in a movie! Anyways, you should all check him out in "Friday The 13th, Part V". Wait till you see his character in THAT movie! I gurentee it`s probably funnier than this "Juwanna Mann" movie!
if you want to maintain a healthy impression of african american by yankeessuck	Jun 17th, 2002 11:30:22 AM
rude, nasty, dirty, insulting, fat, stupid, illiterate, and lazy. not all, but the majority.
General Custer (with or without ___) Says "AOTC Tucks Juwanna Ma by jollydwarf	Jun 17th, 2002 04:25:11 PM
I must REALLY hate myself.
Not all movies that are blatently targeting the black audience s by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 17th, 2002 05:53:50 PM
There's always something really insulting every year that stars all or mostly whites that are primarily aimed at black consumers and it surprises me how few people complain. Jason X: marketing studies will reveal that black film goers represent the highest consumers of horror genre movies, by porportion to the population. Jason X was so blatently greenlit just for that reason. And then there's Martial arts movies: Steven Seagal's last few films has paired him with a black buddie/sidekick and it's so obvious it's insulting. What black person would wanna hang out with such an uptight, humor less A-hole like him anyway?(Marked for Death, Glimmer man, Exit wounds...etc).It's bad enough his films are crap without the targeting tactics. I loved "Kiss of the Dragon" but I could not help but be embarrassed when the rap tunes kicked in during the climax; wtf?(Jet Li went in the other direction for "The One" and went for hard rock). Same thing in "Black Mask"-even Hong Kong filmakers are keen to this and they are milking it for as much cash as they can(I find it inappropriate and incongruant personally). I don't like to feel as though I'm being manipulated when I see a movie. Why should black people who love movies feel any differently? When I see a trailor for something that exudes "target black audience" I stay away. My two cents...
This IS an important film by Dagtastic	Jun 18th, 2002 09:42:16 AM
Obviously the reviewer has missed the strong cultural resonance of the film. Not only does this film illuminate the issues of black and female stereotypes, it shows America that even if you are black or a woman, you can succeed if you stick to comedy or sports. I'm just glad to see that Hollywood is tackling the big issues
Black Film in General by Darth Black	Jun 19th, 2002 01:04:45 PM
I read these posts and feel that most of the comments were relevant and worthwhile. Hollywood's assumptions about who we are as Black people leads to the sort of film subjects and marketing that are insulting and utimately racist. But it seems that realistic films about "others" (non-whites) get ignored - I'm thinking of Always Outnumbered - Always Outgunned, Girls Town and Y Tu Mama Tambien, which were all excellent films. I also remember when Driving Miss Daisy won an oscar over Do The Right Thing, when DTRT was a much more honest depiction of race relations in America. I for one would like to see films that depict Blacks as realistic human beings instead of sterotypes. How about a big budget, special effects laden film about the Tuskegee Airmen, or a group of black men becoming friends in college who struggle with the complexities of life just like everyone else?
I feel Dirty by ChibiRocketX	Jun 30th, 2002 02:06:30 PM
I agree w/ Darth Black. Why can't we have a GOOD movie about us? Either we're gangsters, drug addicts, or Martin Lawrence. I hate Martin Lawrence. Sometimes I think the people making these movies are just white suburbans who've never met a black person before...

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