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A lot of geeks take a look at SPIDER-MAN!!!

Spider-Man by trava	May 2nd, 2002 09:41:56 AM
Go Spidey!!! Box office- around 70 mill. for the opening wekend!!!
Peach's review sucked. by rev_skarekroe	May 2nd, 2002 09:42:15 AM
Sorry, man. Grow up. The thing about Spider-Man not having banter is easily explained. Spidey doesn't have a mouth. So if he talks a lot in the movie it's going to look a lot like one of those silly Japanese live-action superhero shows (yes, like Power Rangers). Still, it would be nice to see him throw in a little personality. sk ps- I will refrain from announcing that I may very well be first.
Yea... you can tell talkback regulars wrote those reviews. by Kampbell-Kid	May 2nd, 2002 09:49:35 AM
I never caught the hype of Spiderman, but I'm excited to see it. Heard the soundtrack last week... horrible. However, I see Episode 2 this Tuesday May 7th and most of you won't so mabye thats why I don't give a sh!t about Spiderman right now. :)
trava, bluntman420, damer1 YOU ARE GIMPS by BarrelRider	May 2nd, 2002 10:12:56 AM
...Well maybe that's a bit harsh, but I haven't been coming to this site for very long, and even I know that posting "first" is considered to be about the lamest thing a talk back-er can do. Not least because, inevitably, the majority of you will fail in your pointless quest to become first. Also, there is a certain amount of evidence to suggest that the reason why the order of the talk backs goes completely haywire is a spiteful revenge attack by AICN, a way of telling, posters to QUIT WRITING FIRST!!! I can't remember who said it, but it has been pointed out that "people who write 'first' enjoy fisting grannies". Anyone who uses the word 'frist' is also taking the piss out of you 'first' posters. On another note, where's that Buzz Lightway guy?
what? by the barking dog	May 2nd, 2002 10:19:41 AM
"But in the loving close-ups, people just couldn't help but wonder why Parker was so obsessed with the chick with weird teeth and big face." Coming from a straight male old enough to be Kirsten Dunst's...older brother, and who freely admits in print to loving "Bring It On," I'd like to ask what the hell was this person thinking? Kirsten Dunst may not be the paragon of perfect looks, but that doesn't make her any less beautiful, because it's obvious what's coming from inside. Know what I mean? She just seems like a geniunely goodhearted, nice person. You can see it in her eyes and in her smile. But, before I come across as a dweeby little sensitive guy, I'm looking forward to the rain scene when it hasn't been digitally altered for a Carl's Jr. commercial. Or at least that's what a barking dog told me.
ONE MORE DAY, TRUE BELIEVERS!! by The Chucker	May 2nd, 2002 10:50:51 AM
That third review sucked. Anyway, it looks good. BTW, Dunst is ugly? That's news to me. out.
saw it last night by Uga	May 2nd, 2002 11:15:46 AM
I saw it last night, and these reviews are nothing more than wishful thinking. I have not seen a more generic, bland, empty-of-ideas movie in a long while. They simply took the blueprint of the first "Superman" movie and transplanted heroes. A major disappointment.
"I had brought along a hilarious and very badass skateboarder wh by the_pissboy1	May 2nd, 2002 11:18:29 AM
"I had brought along a hilarious and very badass skateboarder who made the night pretty funny with some insights into the movie, more on that in a sec. " Talk about the goofiest sentence to appear in a movie review in a longtime. Skaters are funny, no doubt, but not purposely so. And a badass skater? That's like a celibate priest or meat-loving vegan.
Stern says Dunst is ugly? by the_pissboy1	May 2nd, 2002 11:21:45 AM
The guy had porn-star whores on his show. What does he know about attractive? God forbid a girl not have 10,000 ccs of silicone and no tatoos. Stern's just pissed because unlike the skanks he populates his show with, Dunst won't giggle about how "sexy" he is. She's got a career and money and skills, no need to butter up to him. Unlike his porno "friends."
Spidey by LordZanthos	May 2nd, 2002 11:22:38 AM
This web-head gets to see Spider-Man at the staff screening tonight. I can't wait. And then, I'll see it again on Friday night, and again on Sunday... maybe a couple times... Whoooo-hooooooo!
THIS IS TOO MUCH.... by Smugbug	May 2nd, 2002 11:42:40 AM
I must....see...this.....right.. ...now...! Hot damn on a pogo stick!!! I got our tickets for Friday night at 10:30PM!!!
shorten it up PLEASE by pevenscrwn	May 2nd, 2002 11:45:21 AM
what is it with these people who write in with reviews then waste 3 paragraphs telling us their life stories. hey foks, we don't give a shit, just get to the friggin review already. that first review spent more time talkin about himself than the damn movie. if anyone at AICN is reading this, please edit out all the unnecessary bullshit before posting these things.
Frontier House Kicks ASS! by SCOTT1458	May 2nd, 2002 12:01:09 PM
not only is it a great show...but it shows exactly what is wrong with the 21st Century.
Spork by Roj Blake	May 2nd, 2002 12:06:49 PM
I just like that word.
The review Harry didn`t want to put on the site!!!!! by dima	May 2nd, 2002 12:17:53 PM
Seen SPIDERMAN on the tight press screening somewhere in Europe. We can diagnose Sam Raimi`s brain death. His movies should no long bear his name on credits. He lost it and we must face the consequences. We should remember him by his best works like EVIL DEAD trilogy, CRIMEWAVE and DARKMAN. His SPIDERMAN movie shows that studios whored every damn thing American culture created. Spiderman was truly an exploitation character aimed at geeky crowd that wanted to have a hero of their own origin. They couldn`t understand the simplest thing - heroes are different. Greek gods had human attributes but they were immortal. Spiderman is the simplification of the heroic mythology. But it`s all right, there are people who are not as tough as ancient Greeks. It opens with a bad Danny Elfman score and cartoonish credits which is fine because it ain`t PANIC ROOM where we also had quite ambitious credit fonts. Then, we go to Peter Parker`s voice-over and his tiresome explanatory melodrama. Then we have all those informative lines where people tell us their biographies in casual talk. I always hated that because it is the symbol of sloppy writing. Peter Parker chasing the bus and kids looking like Stan Lee`s vision of contemporary youth. Right. Sooner than later you find out that SPIDERMAN is SCREAM 3 of superhero flicks. It`s a romantic story posing as a superhero flick. It`s melodrama intercut with CGI heavy action scenes featuring guys in tights. It`s abominable because we will face VALENTINE of superhero flicks very soon. It`s full of irrelevant details aimed at seducing the geeks. Uncle Ben is driving the car from EVIL DEAD. Bruce is announcing. Nice. But where`s the story? Raimi is the noble barbarian. Beautifully gifted meister who`s geeky, cartoonish and comic book perception of the world brought him into the movie author pantheon. But he isn`t able to deal with psychological drama and someone has to tell him so. His handling of actors and so-called emotions (named overacting in my country) is, well, unahsamedly bad. It`s so bad I laughed. In scenes when I was supposed to invest into characters. I know that the most of the moviegoing crowd are nothing more than cattle pushed into cinemas on the opening weekend. Still, I think SPIDERMAN could even insult them. Storywise, the script is bearable. It lacks the action and focus. Things happen a bit too casually. But I could`ve dealt with that if the actual scenes were written in the better manner. Now, let me tell you I knew how bad hackers David Koepp and Scott Rosenberg are but sincerely I believed that Alvin Sargent could bring some old school sense of dignity into the process. Even Andrew Kevin Walker couldn`t save this mess. Sony made a great move by hiring Sam Raimi. He made this piece of shit get swallowed smoothly. Because it`s all slippery and slick. People who don`t dig movies may even like it because it ain`t apparently bad. But, let me tell you one thing Marvel had better flicks when Albert Pyun made them as in CAPTAIN AMERICA. If this film was made in 1985, it could have been treated as decent. But after BLADEs and THE MATRIX, you can`t make such mistakes. BLADE designed the mode of realistic comic book action happening right here and right now because all the stylish territories were explored by Burton`s BATMANs. THE MATRIX created some modes of rationally explained superhero action. BLADE 2 showed us how to make relevant comic book styliztion on the big screen. And after all these mastrpieces which border highest art and science, Raimi delivers glossy insult to any thinking moviegoer let alone genre movie fan. Oh, boy. No bad comment can ever stop me from seeing a Raimi movie, so I`m not trying to prevent you from seeing it. But is is only valuable as information on how people can get screwed and squeezed when they overestimate own wits. God bless, Ethan
Bullshit Ravings About Spidey, Comics, Iconography, Modern Mytho by NoCureForFools	May 2nd, 2002 12:20:20 PM
I wasn't too excited about this film until I played the PS2 videogame: suddenly it hit me: how fuckin' cool Spiderman is! i was back in my 5 year old mind again, wishing I would grow up to be Speed Racer and Spiderman (i guess my plan was to alternate). Anyways, then i saw some special on the Empteevee and they were interviewing the actors as well Stan Lee and John Romita and a bunch of other guys. they showed some snippets from the original comic and it really hit me just how powerful and meaningful comic genre fiction and modern mythological iconography can be. when comics work, especially superhero comics, they can hit you on a gut level unlike anything else: like myth or religion. i'm a cartoonist myself, but i place myself in the more undergroundish camp, mainly because there is alot more that's possible with comics when you free yourself from the superhero idiom, BUT, there is also an immense power in the idea of a superhero. if it's done right, that is. today there is a vast morass of superheros, more or less indistinguishable from each other, more or less written by illeterates and illustrated by guys who are adapt at using a light board to copy manga and pretend it's original artwork. anyways, when you think about it, there are only a handful of superhero characters that work or are interesting; and these would be the old skool guys: Spiderman, Batman, the XMen, Superman, Dardevil, what have you. all of this Image and Wildstorm crap SUCKS ASS. it is totally useless, totally without insight. completely worthless garbage. anyway, in the past i have dismissed as i was watchin this Spiderman show, I started to think about how difficult it actually is to create a superhero character that resonates with people. that is worthwhile. that even "normal" nonGeek types can relate to. i started thinking about what sort of superhero character could i create that would have the same weight and uniqueness as Spiderman. i don't think i could do it. the best sort of stuff i could come up with in this exercise, was just a sort of perverse satrical and violent type of hero... think a mix of david Lynchs hyper naivete that masks a deeper, bloody darkness. but even that is sort of trite. but to make a hero like Spidey, that is both heartfelt, sentimental and sarcastic in a playful and endearing way is a real challenge! anyway, this is an insane rant powered by caffeine.. the long and the short of it being that you really have to give credit to Stan Lee and Kirby and Ditko and all the old school guys. they really created a vibrant world with an interesting and somewhat irreverant humor that still remained endearing and fun-for-the-whole family. i swear, in a thousand years, this stuff will carry the same wait as the Odyssey or King Arthur or what have you. that is, if teh human race still exists. if you read this whole thing, you are amazing. sorry to take up so much space.
Stop the SW vs. Spidey!!!! by hoorayforeric	May 2nd, 2002 12:42:50 PM
I'm sick of the competition of SW adn Spidey!! I can't wait for both! We are lucky enough to have movies out this summer that are fun again! Last year sucked! Mummy Returns SUCKED! A.I. was disturbing! JP III was fun, but useless. C'mon...this great!! We get Spidey and Star Wars all in two weeks time!! AWESOME!! This is gonna be fun summer! Enjoy them all!! Lucas has nothing to worry about with Spidey. Two different movies all together! I can't wait to see them both! Then I'm gonna have to wait for "Minority Report" and "Signs"!!
I pity... by The Praetor	May 2nd, 2002 12:43:53 PM
the poor soul who had to sit next to your big fat ass on the airplane flight to Newark. I bet you had to pay for two seats you bloated loser.
No wonder there hasn't been any mention of the Spidey wittic by Terry_1978	May 2nd, 2002 12:49:20 PM
If the first guy is correct, they chose to play up the action adventure drama more so than Spidey's sarcasiic quips. That's something I feel is a definite part of the character, and it sucks if that isn't utilzed as it should be....but I'm still checking it out tomorrow night.
If you stopped reading Spider-Man comics and gave up on the book by superhero	May 2nd, 2002 12:53:52 PM
Seriously, if you were ever a Spidey fan and you gave him up as I did (right after the whole Hobgoblin identity mess and when Venom came along and seriously dumped him when McFarlane started writing him as well as drawing him) NOW IS THE TIME TO COME BACK! Some of the best Spider-Man stories ever told are being produced RIGHT NOW! This is the best stuff since some of the early Lee/Ditko/Romita years! Pick up Ultimate Spider-Man and AMAZING Spider-Man and re-discover the hero you knew and loved! I'm serious about this! I actually said to a friend a while back, "I can't believe I'm reading Spider-Man again!" Yes, They're THAT good, they're THAT fun, and that feeling of wonder and hope in them is BACK! Do yourself a favor and read these books! Spidey is GREAT again! Oh, and in the books (I'm NOT whining!) you actually get the original Mac-Daddy MECHANICAL WEB-SHOOTERS! Boo-Yah!
hooked on ebonics.......... by jycd93	May 2nd, 2002 12:54:46 PM
First off, Pissboy_1, good post. Howard Stern wouldn't know beauty if it bit him in the ass. Kirsten Dunst is beautiful. Bottom line. Secondly, Peaches, you may have well started your review with the line...Straight outta Compton, a muthuh-fucker named Peaches. Ghetto. I know, I know, yer keepin' it REAL for the kids on the streets, droppin hardcore ryhmes and hardcore beats. As well you should, livin' large on the mean streets of Indiana. But, let's have a review in which we don't have to break out our ebonics to english dictionary. Feelin' me, Dog? Pickin'up what I'm puttin' down? Fo shizzl, my nizzl? Good lad. Oh yeah, the movie.....looks dope. Can't wait to peep that shiznit. Representin' like a pimpup in this piece. Beeeeaaaatch! Out!
Why do my spider senses tingle? by Renata	May 2nd, 2002 01:04:14 PM
While I liked Spider Man as a comic book reading geek, I was always more of a DC comics guy. The Marvel characters seemed too grounded in 60s psychedelia for me, and, even as a lad, I could tell a lot of them were derivations of (better) DC characters (Spidey=Superman; Daredevil=Batman; etc.). Nonetheless, my uneducated opinion of Spider Man The Movie is: Big Budget, Godawful Effects. I have no idea if the narrative holds together or not, but I've never seen a big event movie that had such ridiculous effects! I mean, look at the footage with your eyes not your heart. Can anyone honestly look at any of the CGI work and not tell me it looks horribly cartoonish? I mean, more cartoonish than CGI usually looks. This isn't about whether you are pro or anti CGI. This is just about execution. The close up shot of Spider Man holding Mary Jane as they swing across the buidlings looks like something out of a 50s Ray Harryhausen movie. So does that shot of Dunst falling from a bridge. John Dykstra should have his license taken away so he can't kill again. ********Also, I didn't hear Howard Stern's comment about Dunst being "ugly", but I want to add my two cents: Stern should look in the mirror...and have you ever seen his girlfriend? Talk about all teeth.
Looking foward to Spider-Man by Steal_Dragon	May 2nd, 2002 01:04:21 PM
Im really looking forward to Spider-Man, it looks cool but I wish they tried harder on Mary Jane's hair, I know MJ has red hair but Kirsten Dunst doesn't look good with it, maybe it was the kinda red they used, basically I would have been satisfyed with blonde hair. I really don't care.
I agree that Kirsten Dunst is hot by magic_ninja	May 2nd, 2002 01:06:03 PM
It's funny, the only people that don't think she is are the same people that are gonna go see the new Star Wars movie alone. Ha ha losers.
What's that smell...oh yeah. It's troll. by Nordling	May 2nd, 2002 01:18:25 PM
Fucking loser hater wannabes. Gee. Trendy motherfuckers. I didn't know a gorilla could fuck SO MANY mothers to breed so many assholes. SPIDER-MAN may not be the best thing since sliced bread (although I think it's going to be damn good) but I guess there wasn't enough fire and titty for you Ritalin junkies. Please die.
solartaco by AggregateScore	May 2nd, 2002 01:26:13 PM
Damn straight! Sadly Tbers have been badgering Harry to correct the TB order for about 4 months with no success. Oh well, keep the faith.
While I Haven't Seen The Film, Like Spider-Fan, I Found Out by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 01:34:08 PM
There's a patient there, Mega-Bob, who told me all about the film in such detail I really don't feel the need to see it. Talk about your spoilers. Man, that Goblin has a problem! Exposing himself to Aunt May at every opportunity! Fortunately, Spidey catches him in his organic web and sucks out his blood while he's still alive. It's supposed to take a third of the film for the Goblin to die. And who says there's no wisecracks? How about "Nice of you to drop in for dinner, Gobby" or when the Goblin tells Aunt May "I can't bare to leave you alone"?
X-Men was better by phil dearly	May 2nd, 2002 02:03:54 PM
To some extent, I agree with dima. To be sure, the movie is most certainly a mess. By trying to make a movie that everyone would like, Mr. Raimi has delivered a film with nothing new to offer the film world. SPIDER-MAN DISAPPOINTS! Yes, sorry to report, Spider-man merely borrows elements from other (better) comic book movies. Is it better than the shitty Batman movies? Yes, but not by much. Is it better than X-Men or Darkman? No, hell no. I give Bryan singer credit for X-Men turning out the way that it did. Sure, the film had many problems, but the balancing of all the characters and their individual backstories as well as the film's visuals are commendable. Not to mention the fact that it only cost half as much as Spider-man. Singer had the tougher job and he pulled it off with greater finesse. Raimi was the wrong choice for this film. When he doesn't know exactly what he's doing, his films tend to be very sloppy. ("Sloppy" would be my one word review for Spider-man.) A better choice to direct would be Zemeckis, who, I don't care what anyone says, has an uncanny ability of knowing what the audience will accept and what they won't. Not to mention that he would never let some of these shitty effects go into the final cut. Zemeckis is a perfectionist and a genius and Sam Raimi is a "B" director who is given way too much credit for those Evil Dead movies. (Evil Dead 2 is good, but the other two are fuckin' weak! I do, however, like Quick and the Dead, Simple Plan and Darkman.) I also think Guy Ritchie might have done something interesting with this movie. Guy Ritchie has a good ear for dialogue and his films are already kinda comic bookish. He's also good with authenticity, we believe his locations and characters, more than I can say for anything or anybody in Spider-man. Also a good choice might have been David Fincher. I had no problems with Tobey Maguire or Kirsten Dunst in their roles, but Willem Dafoe is weak. His Green Goblin is a poor villian and his performance is fair at best. The best part of film is the first hour, which, while slow and tedious, is more interesting than the nonsensical fight scenes that dominate the second half, by which point, no one in the audience even cares anymore. But during the first hour, I got the feeling the movie might get better. It didn't, but Raimi makes us think that it might. Take for example the half-decent but way too short montage in which Spider-man, having finally perfected his costume, foils a convenience store robbery and a bank heist intercut with New Yorkers talking about the mysterious webbed one. I would've rather watched this montage for two hours than the movie itself. The montage is fast-paced, well shot and fun. Everything else in the movie is not. BTW, The audience I saw the film with started heading for the door before the credits began. Mild, polite applause followed but ended quickly. Within two minutes, the theatre was completely empty. Not one single person had the urge to watch the credits! MY prediction: This film is simply not good enough to make $300 mill, although, I would say it is a failure unless it does. Spider-man's name alone can sell the tix but word of mouth will not be that strong. Repeat business? Doubtful. I wouldn't watch it again and I'm a lifelong Spidey fan! Will you like the movie? Depends. Did you like X-men? If you loved X-Men, you may very well love Spider-man, however, if you thought X-men was just alright, you'll likely to be disappointed by this film. I have a feeling that this film will be a lot like the Phantom Menace. Everyone will talk about how great it is for about two weeks. Then, those same die-hard fans who are jocking it now, will completely diss it in 6 months. On a side note, I bought the new Spider-man action figure with 30 points of articulation and, I swear to god, I had more fun posing him for two hours during work than I did watching the movie! When you fans watch this movie this weekend, make sure you are actually WATCHING the movie, not just high on the idea that you are watching the movie. In tohr words, be honest with yourself. Hey, nobody expected a flawless movie, but we Spider-man fans can already imagine a version of how a Spider-man movie should be in our minds....Exciting, Fast-paced, visually-stunning, different, colorful, original, daring, breathtaking... This movie is none of these things. We all know it's gonna make money, but folks, don't go raving about this mediocre movie all around town because it'll just inspire producers to make more bad and poorly thought out live-action films! Think about it, who the fuck actually liked Planet of the Apes and Tomb Raider?!!?!
It'll suck like Phantom Menace...chortle by CaptEgo	May 2nd, 2002 02:21:24 PM
And despite all the bitching and moaning after the fact it only managed a mere 431 Million domestic? Phil...catch a clue...just like the other films you found unappealing an honestly bad Raimi Spidey will probably pull 200 mill minimum. All these jokers who can hairspilt between the wonderfully deep and meaningful X-men or Matrix and a Silly and bad Spiderman are to die for. Unlike Pearl Harbour comic book movies are Popcorn munching silliness, acting like they should somehow be more is assinine.
Tomorrow's the big day! by CoolDan989	May 2nd, 2002 02:34:19 PM
But it will most likely be sold out then, so I'll have to wait till Saturday to see it...damn!
I would love to say stfu to all who critique this film.. by MrPeanut	May 2nd, 2002 02:58:25 PM
But you know, I don't think it's necessary because I'll get to see it tomorrow and make up my own mind, and my opinion is the only one I care about. It could suck, but I have to say that every time I see even the commercial tie-ins I get exited. I have seen nothing so far to make me think this will be anything but sweet.
I Think Kirsten Dunst Is Gorgeous AND I'm Going To See AOTC by NoCureForFools	May 2nd, 2002 03:01:34 PM
not because i'm a geek (which i, and everyone who visits this site is, regardless of sexual frequency or orientation), but because i just prefer to go to the movies by myself. there are several reasons: 1. i hate people. 2. i hate people alot. 3. when you go with someone, they usually talk and stuff and that just pisses me off to no end. talking is for after the movie (unless it sucks). but, anyways, Kirsten Dunst is totally fucking beautiful. i can't understand how any heterosexual man or homosexual woman could think otherwise. i'd paint 3 murals for some of that ass. hey, shut the fuck up chico man.
Dunst is quirky? by Christopher3	May 2nd, 2002 03:08:55 PM
So what's normal? Illeana Douglas?
No midnight showing..as per Sony? If so F** YOU SONY! by xeeds	May 2nd, 2002 03:11:37 PM
It has been a long standing tradition that I go to see any film like this at the Midnight showing at 12:01 AM. Recently Harry Potter and LOTR had midnights, even though not as many films have them anymore. So for the past week I have been searching for a Midnight showing on all the online showtimes/ticket sales websites. Nada! So I called up Harkins Theatres here in Phoenix, the only chain that does midnights here, and was told that there was no midnight for Spider-man and there wouldn't be one for AOTC either. I asked to complain to somebody, she put me on hold, and then came back and told me that Sony wouldn't let them have a midnight showing, so that I should complain to them. Anybody have a phone number at Sony that I can confirm this/bitch about it with somebody there. This time I wanted a Spider-man midnight even more, I was really hoping to catch a showing tonight so I could make sure it was OK to take my son tomorrow (not that I want it to be kid oriented, just kid safe). I made the mistake of letting my son get caught up in all the Spidr-man hype and now he wants to see the movie very badly.
YEAH! They kicked off the losers! by BarrelRider	May 2nd, 2002 03:46:39 PM
Way to go AICN! Death to all those who post "first"! But I'm also quite interested in this whole "wisecrackin' Spidey" thing. I really hope they do give him plenty of wisecracks when he's in costume 'cos for me, that was always part of the point of Spidey. As Peter he's supposed to be a bit shy and nerdy, but the costume allows a whole different side of his personality to come out. If they aren't gonna portray this through wisecracks, how else will they do it I wonder? I'm sure I remember someone showing me a printout of an article from this very site, written by someone who claimed to have witnessed the filming of a scene in which Spidey flipped accross a table with food on it, then turned and said a quip to the GG. I can't remember what the quip was but I do remember thinking "good. that sounds like something Spidey would say." Does anyone remember what I'm talking about or am I speaking shit?
Where are the spolier warnings?!?! by mascan	May 2nd, 2002 04:16:48 PM
Tanks, Harry. You put a spoiler warning on the 4th review, but not on the 3rd one, which contains THE EXACT SAME SPOLIER! Next time, READ the reviews before posting them.
Spideys the shizzy by 2112syrinx	May 2nd, 2002 04:24:01 PM
I cant freakin wait to see this film, it all looks SWELL. Except Kirsten Dunst. I don't care what ANYONE says, escpecially the boner that says anyone who doesn't dig dunst is gonna go see AOTC alone. Lemme break it down for you, 14 year old: Dunst is FUNNY lookin (nice rack tho), I (and many other geeks-who-get-ass)think so, and I'm gonna go see spidey AND aotc with my chica then go immediately home and engage in some post-movie freaky ballin. The kind of shizzy they have to cut out of movies to keep from getting an "ohmygodIcantbelievehesdoingth attoher" rating. Bong.
Dumbest talkback argument ever... by Aquafresh	May 2nd, 2002 04:25:34 PM
...whether Kirsten Dunst is hot or not. In my opinion, she is. Maybe in your opinion, she's not. WHO THE FUCK CARES??!!!!! You might think Brittney Spears is hot. I dont. Lets fight over it. Morons.
STOP THE REVIEWING by patient37	May 2nd, 2002 04:31:11 PM
Alright Harry, we fucking get it. These reviews are saying the EXACT SAME THING EVERY TIME. "Does it exactly follow the comic? No. Does the CGI look fake sometimes? Yes" yada yada yada. CUT IT OUT. If you can't find anything worthwhile to post on the site, why not just NOT POST IT? I'm sure the internet-going populace can survive a day without another superficial AICN update.
Spiderman Limps Along by google1	May 2nd, 2002 04:32:51 PM
Due to legal battles over copyright ownership, Marvel
Who Cares What HOWARD Thinks? OR ... We All Know Who Gives Good by jollydwarf	May 2nd, 2002 04:35:44 PM
I want Beetlejuice to review the film! Hell, I want Beet to take this site over! Howard is simply Seinfeld without the wit, letting his Elaine, George, Kramer, Newman, et al do the work. That's why I still listen. I missed the show today, but I guess Tobey divulges that another woman will be in 2. Most signs point toward the Black Cat, which pleases me to no end. I've already ranted for my pick, and it may not pan out, but I've got "Faith". Now the question is who is the main "Top-Hat-and-a-Cape" villian? On the Stern tip, though, High-Pitch Eric as Fishophobe or Elegant Elliot Offen as, well, himself would be outstanding. Or how about Gary Dell'Abate as Horsetooth, with a cheesy name of Bob A. Boui in his meek radio producer role, a la Alfred E. Nigma (or whatever his first name was). His breath could instantly melt the webbing.
OKAY SPIDER-MAN OFFICIALLY ROCKS! by superdave	May 2nd, 2002 04:37:55 PM
Saw it yesterday AND IT KICKS JEDI ASS!!! Sam Raimi's Spider-Man is the BEST comic movie since Batman...No shit! FINALLY, we will see a Sam Raimi hit! Tobey Maguire is absolutely perfect as Parker, Willem Dafoe's performance is bad ass and Kirsten Dunst is H-O-T (and a great Mary Jane). Spider-Man is a perfect start to what hopefully will be a awesome summer. Whatch out Mr. Lucas...
re: dima by FatherMcGruder	May 2nd, 2002 04:59:01 PM
You "seen" this "somewhere in Europe?" What, are you at a secret press location you can't reveal to the rest of the world due to the top secret nature of the screenings? Would my review sound believable if I opened with: "Yesterday, somewhere in the western United States, I saw Spiderman..." This is followed by a stunningly incoherent rambling about heroes, mythology, and ancient Greeks. Somehow the Spiderman character makes a lame hero because some people aren't as tough as the ancient Greeks. At least, that's the most I can get out of the argument. Maybe there's a language barrier, seeing as he's "somewhere in Europe." Next we get complaints that this movie is "a romantic story posing as a superhero flick. It`s melodrama intercut with CGI heavy action scenes featuring guys in tights." Jesus Christ, have you ever read a comic book in your life, you moron? What do you think a Spiderman comic is supposed to be? A Homeric epic? Modern man's Aeneid? Sheesh! The final bit of absurdity, however, is the use of the following line, "these mastrpieces which border highest art and science..." in reference to, let's see, Batman, Blade, Blade 2, and The Matrix. While these are all really fun movies, this seems to belie your earlier grammatically faulty jibe at inferior Americans ("named overacting in my country"). Don't these movies also fall into that category of "a romantic story posing as a superhero flick...melodrama intercut with CGI heavy action scenes featuring guys in tights." Hmmm, Batman, yep; Blade, better sub "black leather" for "tights," ditto Blade 2 (except for those nifty ninja vamps in the beginning); The Matrix, huh, again with the black leather, some kind of updating of the homoerotic subtext of comics, I guess... Still, ALL these movies seem to fit neatly into your little quote. So, if that's what Spiderman is, it won't bother me none too much. In the future, if I were you, I would hesitate to use the phrase "a masterpiece bordering on the highest art and science" and "Blade 2" in the same breath. 'Cause in my country, we call that "being a pretentious dumbass." "I kick ass for the Lord!" Father McGruder
Opinions, Thoughts by The Rayven	May 2nd, 2002 05:08:17 PM
Greetings, fellow Talk Backers! This is my first post, and I couldn't think of a better movie to start with. These are just a few random thoughts about Spider-Man. I have not seen it yet, so these thoughts are based purely on other talk backs, previews, and reviews. At first I was up in odds over the whole mechanical/organic webshooters thing, but after seeing the previews, that is a non-issue for me. Don't get me wrong, as a comics fan and wannabe filmmaker myself, I wholeheartedly believe that comics movies should be as faithful to the original source as humanly possible. But I also understand that certain Hollywood heads who aren't creative feel like they have to change something in order to earn their credit. Sometimes the changes make sense, sometimes they don't. In this case, I think it doesn't hurt. In the interest of time and space, I'll make the other points short. I wasn't the biggest fan of Tobey Maguire's casting, but from what I've seen and heard, he'll have changed my mind at the end of the movie. However, I'm still not sold on Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane. While she is an attractive young lady, I just don't think she was the one for this role. But this may change when I see it. I do look forward to the "rain/kiss" scene, though (I ain't crazy). I'll save future comments for another post; I'm just happy as hell we got a Spider-Man movie, and I hope it's good. For better or for worse, you'll be hearing more from me... ... quote The Rayven, nevermore.
Spider-man Rules by jokrsmile	May 2nd, 2002 05:16:10 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but here's my view on most of the talk back that I've seen. First off the purist who claim to know the character inside and out are full of crap. And to be a purist and expect the movie to have everything exactly to a tee from the comic are unrealistic. Live in the now people, everything that translates to film usually needs updating. This film and comic are no exception, hence the Marvel title Ultimate Spider-Man (pick up a copy)!!! As for those who say the graphics aren't up to par, I challenge anyone to show me a movie that you can't find flaws in with the CG. As far as the debate on Star Wars vs Spidey, well all I can say is I'm a Marvel fan. I honestly believe Marvel is the next Disney. I would love another great Star Wars flick, but from what I've seen Lucas is off the mark again. Spider-Man Rules....Peace!!!
Dunst is ugly?! by The Daredevil	May 2nd, 2002 06:08:35 PM
Kristin Dunst is definitely one of the most talented and prettiest actress of her generation. Sure, she may not look like those super models on the cover of Vogue; she seems like a pretty girl who live next door to you, but that's what made her seemed genuine and sincere. Howard Stern spent too much time with those porn stars to know what a true beauty look like. Anyway, I will probably catch Spiderman twice in theatre this weekend, and many more times before it bowed from the multiplexes. Can't wait to finally see Spidey on the big screen.
Raimi will now be called upon to save all the other comic proper by bc1970	May 2nd, 2002 06:18:08 PM
"hey Sam, can ya do the new Batman?""hey Sam, can ya do the Superman after McG!""hey sam..."
I Hope You Guys Are Happy! Kirsten Dunst Called Me In Tears! Her by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 06:27:03 PM
"H'lo?" "B-b-b-buzz?" "Kirstie? Is that you? What's wrong, kid?" "S-s-s-omewaaaaa--" "Kirstie, take a deep breath and tell ol' Buzz all about it." "S-s-s-s-some talkbackers and some Howard Stern listeners are saying I'm ugly!" "Oh, man! I'm so sorry, Kirsten." "Wh-what am I going to do? Buzz, these are men who are eligible for me to date! I'm going to be lonely! My whole life! I'm just going to be lonely ol' Kirsten." "Now, don't talk like that, honey! These guys just don't appreciate the real you! Sure, right now they think their girlfriends are hot stuff, with the acne and excess weight and the thick glasses and the latex skin and the valve stems and all, but you've got inner-beauty. One of these days, these guys are going to look at you and realize what they've been missing!" "Do you really think so?" "I know so!" "But what am I going to do now? These are great guys and I'm really interested in 'em--" "Well, one thing you could do is share their interests." "What are they interested in?" "Comic books and mean spirited humor! I can help you with the comic book part." "Really? Can we start right now? I don't want to miss out on my chances with these guys!" "Sure. What other Marvel superhero guest starred when Spider-Man fought the Green Goblin for the first time?" "The Hulk?" "Right! See you're good at this!" "That was an easy one, Buzz!" "Hey, don't sell yourself short, kid!"
dear god no... by hank quinlan	May 2nd, 2002 06:44:50 PM
...not Frank Oz for Powers. And that screenplay sucked. Get Bendis to write it with another screenwriter. Bendis!!!!!! Quinlan out.
Malexandria is back! Malexandria is back! by TimBenzedrine	May 2nd, 2002 06:53:40 PM
It's like the circus has come to town! It's like the answer to a talkbacker's prayer! I couldn't even finish her review, I stopped at "radio active". I don't know if it's a good review or not ,I don't know if she's checked her facts, I don't know if she's learned how to write a review , I don't even know if it's really her, all I know I know is that as soon as I saw her name, the memories just came flooding back. Memories of LOR, of Peter Jenkins of Australia, and of course, the Bow guy. Malex my dear (if it is truly you) I just wanted to thank you for the best time I've ever had on a talkback, lo those many months ago. Welcome back.
Everything sucks, truly! (And not like that!) by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 07:01:58 PM
We all know that movies suck, that comic books suck, that Harry sucks, that other talkbackers are all faggots, and that homosexuality is sommething to be hated and feared. But now, as it turns out, women suck too, and not the way you're thinking. They're not pretty, they're not charming, they're not intriguing and they certainly don't smell nice. They're all a bunch of stuck up bitches. Kirsten Dunst, like Gwyneth Paltrow, Cameron Diaz, Julia Roberts and Michelle Pfeiffer, is hideously ugly and not posessed of a shred of any talent. Actually, considering how boring sex and love are, there probably shouldn't be women in movies at all. Women are repugnant. Movies should be about one thing and one thing only - Men! But not in a gay way.
Oh, that's Malexandria alright by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 07:23:05 PM
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Buzz Maverik, if you have something to say, say it out of your o by CoolDan989	May 2nd, 2002 07:30:38 PM
...instead of pretending some fanboy comments would ruin Kristen Dunst. Thanks.
You're Welcome, Cool Dan! by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 07:38:24 PM
And they say kids today don't have manners. BTW, Kirsten later told me, "It did bother me that all those cool guys I'd like to date said I'm ugly, but not any more." I said, "What about Cool Dan? He didn't say you were ugly, as far as I can remember." "Yeah, but I wouldn't want to go out with him. None of us would. Not me, or Christina or Rachel Leigh or Angelina or Rupert or Meena or..."
Nerd Wars! by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 07:40:03 PM
Mr. Maverik, I believe Mr. CoolDan is looking for a pissing match. Don't tell me you're above his sort. Rip his fucking heart out!
Sorry. by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 07:42:18 PM
Beaten to the first punch! Tarnations!
Well, Buzz Maverik... by CoolDan989	May 2nd, 2002 07:47:45 PM
I'm perfectly aware no celebrity would date me, but no celebrity would date you either, let alone actually call you. So I guess we're even. All I want to say is that it's not cool to type a very long and annoying mock phone conversation when you can easily express your point by saying "Will everyone please lay off Kristen Dunst!". Oh, and by the way, for all you guys taking bets for the upcoming "Nerd War", you better start trying to get your money back.
Thanks, Billy Talent! Always Sink To The Other Guys Level, That& by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 07:49:27 PM
Damned right I'm not above it! BTW, I dug your "Everything Sucks" post. And yes, I took your medication.
Whadya Mean No Celebrity Would Actually Call Me? by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 07:52:30 PM
Are you suggesting that wasn't an actual transcript of a conversation with Kirsten Dunst? And don't be so hard on yourself. I'll bet Charles Nelson Reilly would go out with you if you gave him a call.
Careful Buzz, those pills ain't for amateurs... by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 07:53:33 PM
What kind of a weird ass redneck are you, anyway?
Any Of You Guys See A Cool Spaghetti Western Called MY NAME IS N by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 07:56:18 PM
Henry Fonda is this old gunslinger who is tired of people coming after him to make their rep. So he meets this young guy who has super reflexes and they fake the young guy killing Hank. Hank gets to retire and the guy is one bad hombre. It ends with the kid in a barber chair and we see that the barber is about to cut the kids throat but the kid has his finger poised on the barber's ass. One little flame war, one little flame war in my whole overly long career as a talkbacker and all the animals come out at night. (That animal thing is from a movie you might not have seen, Cool Dan, because it doesn't contain any superheroes. Long live linear thought and mediocrity).
Billy, Because It's You & You Are Sincerely The Funniest Tal by Buzz Maverik	May 2nd, 2002 07:59:45 PM
...by saying that I WISH I was a redneck, but I just don't look right in a mullet and driving a Camaro, mini-truck or monster truck.
Thanks Buzz. Can I quote you on my resume? by Billy Talent	May 2nd, 2002 08:12:09 PM

I know I said I didn't care, but by MrPeanut	May 2nd, 2002 08:46:49 PM
I guess I do, just a little bit. I can't believe people are complaining about Kirsten Dunst's appearance. Is she a supermodel? No. But she is damn cute. Heaven forbid they cast someone who actually can pass for a high schooler to play a high school girl. If some of you people were casting this picture I get the impression we'd have Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman trying to play eighteen-year-olds. Or how about Luke Perry! He played a high schooler, and he's only what, forty?
Buzz.. by Tonya_Harding	May 2nd, 2002 08:49:09 PM
That's some fucking funny shit.. still laughing here.. I'm sure the poor girl is crying a river over a bunch of fuckhead fan-bitches don't have anything better to do than lament movie trailers and organic web shooters.. especially the Talkbacker up there who thinks Kirsten isn't cute because she has a "chubby face". Jebus CHRIST! What some jackasses will say on these TB's! Wonder how many of these idiots would say this shit to her face - Tonya
OH, and... by Tonya_Harding	May 2nd, 2002 08:54:59 PM
it's WONDERFUL to see Malexandria back.. and by wonderful I mean disturbingly amusing! Who can forget Aussie PETER JENKINS's awful LOR movie starring Cuba Gooding, Jr. and .. BOW GUY! Keep it going Malexandria.. we need some more laughs! - Tonya
Oh bitch, bitch, bitch... by 007-11	May 2nd, 2002 09:09:09 PM
"Organic webshooters ruin the entire movie!", "Gwen Stacy has been wronged!", are any of these people able to enjoy a movie if it isn't from Europe or Asia?
Hulk by PeanutGallery	May 2nd, 2002 09:15:20 PM
Grab the Hulk teaser...http://www.apple.com/ trailers/universal/the_hulk/
So this Spider Guy, he's some kind of Monster? by Regis Travolta	May 2nd, 2002 11:11:05 PM
Cool! I've never heard of this here comic book or this here Spider Guy movie so I will have to check it out! I sure does love me monster movies! And if this is about a guy who turns into some kind of Giant Tarantula then WOW! It sounds like the coolest fucking monster man movie ever made!!!!! Better than Werewolf better than Teen Wolf better than Frankenstein or Dracula better than any of 'em!!!!!!!!
Pop Trivia Quiz: Who provided the Voice to the original Spider-M by Regis Travolta	May 2nd, 2002 11:15:44 PM
If anyone knows please post the answer he had a great baritone voice as Spider-Man and a totally different voice actor was used when he was Peter Parker. Bonus points if you can name both actors!
Saw Spider-Man tonight... by Otter	May 2nd, 2002 11:21:14 PM
Saw it tonight, it was better than I expected, nice to see Stan Lee, Lucy Lawless, and Jim Norton... nuff said.
Kirsten Dunst: Sex Goddess or Ugly Stick Victim? by Osgood Sigerson	May 3rd, 2002 12:26:29 AM
Here's my problem with Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane: she's a great actress. It's a superhero movie. You don't need a great actress in a superhero movie. Mary Jane is supposed to be a fine piece of ass. She was like a model and stuff. While I think Dunst is okay (she's really not my type, although the whole wet t-shirt thing does pique my interest), she wouldn't exactly make it into the Victoria's Secret catalog. However, hot chicks with passable acting skills are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. Why didn't they cast one of them? It's like the only time they could have picked a total hottie and stay true to the story, and they went for the brain. I think perhaps when they cast this film they were thinking about hiring great actors to buoy a soft script. But it's a superhero movie! Have fun with it! Put crappy actors in it! Then again, they put good actors in X-Men and that worked out okay, so what do I know. Then again, Anna Paquin is better looking than Kirsten Dunst...but you know what? It's not a military operation, it's a movie. We should all stop playing armchair director. But then we wouldn't be geeks. I dunno, I still think George is the smartest guy around for putting Natalie Portman on screen with that bare midriff.
Quote Me On Yer Resume, Billy. Hell, I'll Write You A Refere by Buzz Maverik	May 3rd, 2002 01:34:21 AM
Now, I was thinking about yer "nerd wars" post, though and I must take exception. In the words of Milhouse Van Hauten, "I'm not a nerd. Nerds are smart." What the hell is in that medication, man?
some of you guys are dicks, but Buzz's AH-NUHLD is the best by 81666	May 3rd, 2002 02:33:16 AM

Errol Morris by Billy Talent	May 3rd, 2002 04:19:10 AM
Errol Morris is the director of documentary films such as 'Gates of Heave', 'The Thin Blue Line', 'Mr. Death', and 'Fast, Cheap, and Out Of Control'
Fucking Hell! by Billy Talent	May 3rd, 2002 04:20:45 AM
'Gates of Heaven'. Terrific film by the way.
Charles Nelson Reilly by Jive Amiable	May 3rd, 2002 09:45:25 AM
I've misspelled it, haven't I? Anyway, I caught ol' CNR on a local cable access show the other day ("Good Mid-Morning, Pierre"?). He was hawking his new book "They Haven't Built a Closet Big Enough". The host asked him point blank about the rumours of his tryst with CoolDan. He was was adamant that they are only friends and that, "he's got a cute pooper, but he's no Paul Lynde".
What's so bad about Kirsten Dunst? by BigTuna	May 3rd, 2002 10:38:23 AM
I like how guys who claim she's not that hot, would cum in your pants if any chick looking like that ever even talked to them. She's hot and she's talented. And who cares what Howard Stern and his butt ugly crew says. Ever see them? Damn they're hideous! And Stern has actually said many times on his show that he thinks he should have been nominated for an oscar for "Private Parts". What an egomaniac.
The voice of Bakshi's Spider-Man was... by Village Idiot	May 3rd, 2002 02:22:25 PM
Paul Soles. And according to the IMDB, he was also the voice of Peter Parker, which is what I always suspected. He'd change voices mid-sentence, ala Bud Collyer's "This looks like a job..FOR SUPERMAN!"
RE: MY NAME IS NOBODY by EvilNight	May 3rd, 2002 03:54:05 PM
No shit! I thought I was the only one on the planet who had seen that movie. Damn fine flick, for a spaghetti western as you say. I think it's real title however was "Lonesome Gun" (no not Lonesome Dove you idiots). Only copy I have is on a 10 year old VHS casette, I think I taped it off the old Star Theatre back in the day...
My Two Star Review of Spider-Man by Xocxoc	May 3rd, 2002 04:33:20 PM
This is generally the kind of movie I would rank higher than two stars, but sometimes a big budget blockbuster comes out that so lacks imagination that it deserves a slap on the wrist. I have read some reviews, most of which were positive, and most of the complaints were about the fake looking CGI. Truth be told that does not bother me since this is a comic book movie, and special effects ALWAYS look fake in comic book movies (it is part of their charm). The acting of the three main characters and even some of the supporting characters were first rate as well. BUT, the thing that makes me dislike this movie is how unoriginal this movie is. Every scene played out exactly as I figured it would. Director Sam Raimi (For Love of the Game)telegraphs his punches so badly that each plot point is spelled out two scenes before it happens. I do not blame it on my familiarity with the Spider Man tale, I blame it on the lack of originality on the committee that put this movie's story together. Screenwriter David Koepp (Panic Room, Jurassic Park) usually does a good job of creating plot surprises even in ordinary genre stories. This one lacks that element. After we get through the origin story, the first new scene is with Spider Man making his debut at a cage fight wrestling match. I liked this scene ... when I saw it with Wolverine on "X-Men". Spider Man rescues the girl he loves from muggers ... better when Christopher Reeves and Margot Kidder did it in "Superman:The Movie". Spider Man has to choose between saving his best friend and a bus load of children ... yep, right out of "Batman Forever" he manages to save them both. I avoided spoilers before seeing this movie, but this film is so predictable, I did not really have to.
Don't Believe the Hype by mack2002	May 3rd, 2002 04:50:59 PM
The SPIDER-MAN movie is exactly like BATMAN FOREVER without the obvious homosexual overtones. There is not one moment where the effects - technically fine as they are - are believable. SUPERMAN II's city street fight scene does look kinda cheesy, but at least requires a suspension of disbelief - that is SOME involvement on the part of the audience. When you are watching SPIDER-MAN, you are watching animated characters in a video game. And, come on, YOU KNOW IT. Whether you want to admit it or not - YOU'VE SEEN THIS STUFF BEFORE, right down to the weak funk music and hot-air balloons. The super-power thing as analogy to puberty is interesting only to those who are currently going through puberty probably. The villian is nothing more than a multiple personality stuffed into a Power Ranger costume. The hero's dilemma should be navigating the sometimes grey area between right and wrong, not hanging around waiting for his girlfriend to fall out of the millionth window. You got what you want - a technically well-made blockbuster, slavishly devoted to it's source material. There, you happy now?
can crusher and the wall by fun guy	May 3rd, 2002 06:19:50 PM
remember that cool show electric company? that spider man part was great. i liked the bad guys like the can crusher and the wall. there was another one i can remember called the old 1,2 or something it was two guys, one with a great big boxing glove and the other with a huge hammer. i hope those villains are in the movie spider man
Right then... by BiPolarBear	May 3rd, 2002 08:08:53 PM
I wish that the people who haven't seen the movie would stop friggin' mouthing off about how awful it is. It makes you look damned ignorant. I saw the movie this afternoon, and I just wanted to say that: 1. The CG seemed to read a lot better on the big screen than it did on the TV and 'net trailers I saw. CG Spidey didn't stick out so much from the backgrounds as to be distracting. His movements may have looked a little exaggerated and cartoonish, but I daresay if they didn't, it wouldn't look like Spiderman. WAY better than the horrible horrible CGI fights in Blade II. 2. I would have loved to see Alicia Witt as MJ, but now that I've seen the film, I'm perfectly happy with Kirsten Dunst. And more importantly than her looks, she acted the part perfectly, with the right mix of vulnerability and feigned confidence. Yes, there are prettier women in the world, but she is damn cute. Not one of you geeks who are talking shit about her would throw her out of your bed if by some miracle you found her there. Hell, most of you wouldn't turn down a woman half as attractive as her, and you damn well know it. Stop posing.
okay. whoa. harry: please put up a spidey talkback. just a nice by a goonie	May 4th, 2002 12:57:35 AM
holy shit. i just got back from the movie. and put it this way: It's an action movie... and it made me cry. that's right. i cried during this movie. it was right at the end when SPOILER ALERT Tobey finishes his brief closing narration that is totally awesome and suddenly we cut to Spidey flippin and flyin through Manhattan. but unlike in the trailer, this time we have Elfman's wonderful score playing over the scene. and i suddenly got caught up in the emotion of it all. the movie nearly brought me to tears at numerous points throughout. it's that good. it's that touching. it's that sweet, and that damned intelligent. Raimi knew he could take this story to great heights. he knew this didn't just have to be an adrenaline rush. not just a "fun ride." Spider-man: the movie could actually be moving as all hell. and it is. anyways, getting back to the ending, the brilliance of it all swept me up and suddenly, the tears came. you see, there was something at the end of this movie i really really wanted. something kinda specific. i kept telling myself that it wouldn't matter if what i wanted was absent from the closing couple minutes, cuz if it was, i'd be disappointed as hell. even if i didn't outright admit it. plus, you must understand that the ending is the most important part of the movie for me. it can make or break a picture. it can make a great picture an absolutely brilliant heart-stopping masterpiece (like Spidey here). so needless to say, i was gonna be happy if the ending delivered. this is what i wanted: a closing narration by Peter/Spidey and one final closing bit of Spidey doing some acrobatics. one final assertion that the streets of New York are safe. one final image to be engrained into my mind with Spidey at the helm. and then, in the real movie, you have that bit in the cemetary with MJ and Peter and he says that line i love ("I will always be there for you") and she makes the connection due to the kiss and Peter walks away and repeats Uncle Ben's quote and says "this is my gift; my curse" and "who am i? i'm SPIDER-MAN!" and holy shit, we're bombarded with what is quite possibly the best bit of animation in the entire film. man... if you haven't seen it yet, go NOW. and then go again and again and again. i love this movie. it is gold. sweet, tender, touching gold.
SPIDER-MAN better than X-MEN, all the BATMANs and SUPERMAN 2 - 4 by RogueScribner	May 4th, 2002 02:08:23 AM
I can't believe there are negative comments on this talkback. I mean, I know not everyone is into every movie, but some people here have major problems with this film and I can't for the life of me understand where they are coming from. I'm the type of person to be overly critical of movies, but I had very few problems with SPIDER-MAN. In fact, I would rank this as the 2nd best Superhero movie, behind only the first SUPERMAN. PROS: Tobey Maguire. He was the perfect Peter Parker/Spider-man. He owned this role. I'm glad we didn't get stuck with a Freddie Prize, Jr. or somebody lame like that. Kirsten Dunst was HOT as hell in this flick. Especially in that alley scene. ;) The guy who played J. Jonah Jameson was a riot! He stole every scene he was in. Willem Dafoe was very good in his role. He played it just right. Sam Raimi was the perfect choice for this flick. His direction gave the movie half its energy. The action scenes were all cool, if not sometimes a little brief. But it's only a 2 hour movie so I guess they had to make cuts somewhere. The CG wasn't as bad as I feared it would be. I mean, it didn't all look perfect, but it never took away from the movie, IMO. I like how they took their time with the Spidey origin. It wasn't overly long, just long enough to do it right. And a lot of it was funny to boot! There wasn't a single character in the movie that got on my nerves. Everyone was cool. Humor plays a big part in this movie and it was done great. I was laughing my ass off many a time. The movie also gets pretty serious sometimes and that was done well, too. Especially towards the end when Spidey gets mad. LOOK OUT! CONS: I love Danny Elfman to death. But what the hell happened to him in this movie? It's not that his score was bad. It was good. For what it was. My question for him would be: where's the theme? Where's the melody the audience can rally behind? Where's Spider-man's I'm-about-to-kick-some-ass music??? Everything I heard was like transition and subtheme music. He had it all but the main theme. Huh? I was very disappointed. Bruce Campbell's part should have been bigger!!! Well, I guess that's not really a con, but dammit, he's cool and I want more!!! =) I think Maryjane was put into jeopardy one too many times. As much as I loved watching the alley scene, it was a little redundant. I also wished that Norman Osborne's descent into insanity was fleshed out a little more. As good as Willem Dafoe acted, Norman was still pretty much a two dimensional character. But that's about it for my gripes. Overall I'd give this movie 4 1/2 out of 5 stars! Excellent, excellent movie. I haven't been so jazzed over a movie since . . . 1999? Can that be right? Well, here's hoping that this movie starts the rest of the year off to a good start. Looking forward to Spider-man Strikes Back! L8r
Re:Xocxoc's 2-star review by BiPolarBear	May 4th, 2002 03:56:02 AM
"After we get through the origin story, the first new scene is with Spider Man making his debut at a cage fight wrestling match." ??!! The wrestling match IS part of the origin story. So much for your "familiarity" with the Spider-Man story.

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