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DIE ANOTHER DAY set report from the Ice Palace!

"Lots of spoilers" ? by binarybaby	Apr 10th, 2002 08:37:14 AM
Sorry but I dont see any real spoilers there? I havent been seriously impressed with any Bond movie since Moonraker.... But they're all good fun. This one will probably be more of the same.
Another Bond Bomb by RedScab	Apr 10th, 2002 08:54:30 AM
This film will tank at the boxoffice. No one gives a shit about these film's anymore.
Not Successful? by Philmaker	Apr 10th, 2002 09:12:23 AM
How can he say that TWINE was not as successful as usual? Last time I checked it was the Most successful Bond film at the box office. I'm not sure about internationally, but in North America it was. The only way he can be serious is if he means gross compared to budget. This film sounds cool, but I hope there are fewer one-liners than TWINE and a darker mood along the lines of TND.
The Spy Whom Loved Me? by PriestYoungblood	Apr 10th, 2002 09:23:37 AM
I don't remember that one. . .
Halle Berry hurt in blast during Bond film scene by Pizza The Hut	Apr 10th, 2002 09:34:06 AM
I put a few spaces in the link so won't stretch-out the talkback. Remove the spaces, and it should work: http://www.portal.telegraph.co .uk/ news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002 /04/10/wberry10.xml &sSheet=/news/2002/04/10/ixwor ld.html
Die Another Day by Nastywhacks	Apr 10th, 2002 09:40:54 AM
I would bet this poster is nowhere NEAR the set... as any Bond fan who surfs the sites knows, this is old info and he doesn't have his shit straight to begin with! TWINE was the most successful Bond film in dollars (although if you figure in inflation, THUNDERBALL is #1) and the obvious mistakes on previous films (The Spy WHOM Loved Me? Live and Let Die with a volcano? Has he even SEEN any of the films?) point out his inadequacies... as David Niven would say.
The Spy With Whom I Fell In Love by Christopher3	Apr 10th, 2002 09:41:52 AM
Cool as the tanker was, the underwater lair was even better in that film. Other favorite Bond uberfortresses: the fake volcano/launch pad in "You Only Live Twice" (also ripped off in "Moonraker") and the Enter-the-Dragonesque funhouse in "The Man With the Golden Gun." Interesting observation, though; there haven't been any uberfortresses in Bond films in a long time.
BONDMOVIES mean BOND CHICKS!!! HALLE BERRY RULEZ by TarantinoWebsite	Apr 10th, 2002 09:53:40 AM

Goldfinger! by Silver_Joo	Apr 10th, 2002 09:55:17 AM
I watched it again the other day, along with 'You Only Live Twice' - those are my two favourite Bond movies. Roger Moore got tiresome,(and tired!)but 'Live and Let Die' was fantastic too. I have enjoyed the Brosnan Bond outings, they seem closer in spirit to the Connery efforts. It seems though, whenever the films try to give us an emotional insight into Bond, or develop a human side, they suffer. I like the thought of this cold-hearted relic travelling the world thwarting super-villains. Bond maybe dated, but he still makes for great entertainment.
Bond flicks by Reverendz	Apr 10th, 2002 10:20:03 AM
Dr. No remains the best Bond film. Pre-formula. Bond was ruthless and inventive, relying more on his wits and charm then gadgets and deux ex machina plot devices. Plus, god help me I'm so sick of the 'bond song' intro. It was unique and original 30+ years ago with Goldfinger. It has long since worn out it's welcome.
binarybaby. . . by PriestYoungblood	Apr 10th, 2002 10:25:59 AM
You haven't been impressed with any Bond movies since Moonraker? does that mean you WERE impressed with Moonraker? Yikes. Anyway, I have stopped getting my hopes up for Bond movies. It's not worth it any more. Too much eye candy without enough plot/character development, too many similar ideas. John Cleese and Judi Dench are the best thing to happen to the franchise in years. But even THEY can't get my hopes up. I'll wait and see, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Or maybe I'll get what I expect. Either way, I reserve my hopes these days for AOTC, TTT and Matrix2. Maybe not Matrix 2 so much.
Everyman... by Dru	Apr 10th, 2002 10:54:27 AM
Martinis, classy chicks (maybe not Denise Richards, though her eye candy factor cannot be overlooked), GQ clothing + toys up the wazoo- Bond is what men (SHOULD) aspire to be. For some reason- I really don't know why) Bond has always remained attainable, in the sense that, although it could never actually happen, it really, really could. Look, ya'll can keep your light sabers + your vampire-shredding machetes + your webslingers; all I want is a martini + a signature gun. + a cool line for before, during, + after the sex with some nubile darling in black stockings. Too dated to rule the box office in the blockbuster hype of 2K, but Bond is forever. Out.
I haven't been impressed with any Bond films after Sean Conn by Chilli Kramer	Apr 10th, 2002 10:57:06 AM
Englishmen only make good baddies. To have a heroic Englishman who looks like he could handle himself in a fight, a Scot must play him. Irish/ Welsh/ Aussie, nice tries, but they just don't despise the thought of being English enough to make a difference. Also, Bond has slight Scots roots anyhow, despite his 'English gent' image. Therefore only Connery has played him well. (I expect a lot of argument here....)
Bunk, James Bunk by Flint420	Apr 10th, 2002 11:10:47 AM
As a long time fan of these films I have to say that this dinosaur of a franchise will soon be extinct if new blood is not injected into it SOON. Since the return of the franchise in '95 none of the three new Bond films have lived up to their potential. I blame this solely on the Broccoli family. They are so out of touch with what these movies are about it is ridiculous. They need to realize that what was considered "racey" in the 60's & 70's is now regular programming on the Fox Family Channel. This is 2002. They can't be afraid to take a chance. I'm talking throw in some tasteful nudity bring in a big name director instead of always using made for TV movie hacks. A fresh, new approach. Can you imagine a John Woo Bond film? This guy made that fat pussy Travolta look like a total bad ass in Face/Off. What about Tarantino or Fincher? or even Brett Rattner, overrated as he is, would be better. MGM and the Broccoli's need to realize the current formula is no longer viable. It needs to be reworked or modified for a new generation and has been in need of this overhaul since the final days of Roger Moore's 007. Also, Pierce Brosnan SUCKS big floppy donkey dick as 007. His performances are consistantly flat and the dude is just dull. He has repeatedly let me down. Hopefully this is his last outing as Bond. Will the Broccoli's deliver the goods with their current project? probably no. They've become complacent in churning out the same dull, overhyped, by-the-book fodder they have for as long as I can remember. And I'll go see Die Another Day because that's what true fans do. But I don't expect much.
I'll be dissapointed if Deac isn't on this talkback to s by Chilli Kramer	Apr 10th, 2002 11:24:38 AM
that he'd love to fuck Halle in the ass. That boy has a serious anal fixation. But then who wouldn't with all that sweet ass going about....
Boring Bond by hatchling	Apr 10th, 2002 11:29:02 AM
I've owned Goldfinger since it was first released on video...that makes me a dinosaur I suppose, but I am also a card carrying Bond enthusiast, or was. The franchise is tired. I know the kiddies like the crashes and stunts, but please, does anyone over 20 actually think that Halle's bodacious breasts will be enough to save the series? Let's be honest. We're no longer dealing with the original books and unless some talented screenwriters take over, these films will just stink up the theaters. Stunts are no substitute for a riviting and well acted story. The special effects and stunts should be an adjunct, not the be all.
"The World Is Not Enough" is the biggest grossing Bond movie eve by virkku	Apr 10th, 2002 11:32:38 AM
It made 351 million worldwide and cost 120 million to make.
New Blood by Philmaker	Apr 10th, 2002 12:38:01 PM
I agree that the Brosnan Bonds have been less than what they could be. I also think, however, that Brosnan has been fine in the role and injected it with some morality and mortality (the scene after Teri Hatcher's death in TND is a good example). The real problem lies in the directors they choose: Spottiswood is a journeyman director for hire. Apted is better with drama and documentary - action pacing just seems to elude him. And Campbell directs every film like it were made for cable, constantly holding back on big set pieces and framing every shot without style. They need to start bringing in artists to work within the genre they do best. Tarantino should NEVER do a Bond film, and people who suggest it should reconsider what they think they know about film. You might as well ask Woody Allen to do one. Not his style. This is not a knock against these filmmakers in the least, just know your limitations. John Woo would be perfect, but I doubt he could separate Bond from Mission Impossible. He has his Bond already. Here's a list of people who could do a good Bond - Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, Steven Soderberg, Renny Harlin (with a good script), Jan De Bont (when he's focused) and even John McTiernan (depending on what side of bed he gets out of). Some who shouldn't - Simon West (can't edit for shit, no sense of character or plot), Michael Bay (all style, The Rock is his only good film) and yes, David Ficher. I love the guy, but he's too dark and his films often lack any sense of humor (the humor in Fight Club really only works if you view the film as one big black comedy - gonna get shit for that one, I know). But it doesn't really matter, they'll probably just give the next one to John Badham, the ultimate director for hire. I would have included James Cameron, but, hey, the man has already made the ultimate Bond film without the Bond in True Lies. One last thing - if you want the perfect casting for the next Bond it should be Hugh Jackman. This guy has charisma and presence. He just needs the right role.
Is the villain in this one Mr. Freeze? by Sod Off Baldric	Apr 10th, 2002 12:56:53 PM
Does that mean that Ah-nold will be in it? "Ice to see you Mistah Bond! Cool pah-ty! Kill da heero!" shudder
hatchling: original books by jeffv	Apr 10th, 2002 01:01:48 PM
Even when the movies were drawing their titles from the original books, they hardly ever followed them anyway (with the exception of Thunderball). I think Moonraker, the book, was about a nuclear bomb targeting London. You Only Live Twice, the book, was about Bond being brainwashed into killing M. Plus, they mixed and matched stuff all over the place. IIRC, Felix "disagreeing with something that ate him" was from the book Live and Let Die but shown in Licence to Kill. A View to a Kill was Bond pretending to be a motorcycle courier to flush out sabotage on the route, while the movie A View to a Kill borrowed from Risco, one of the other short stories in the book For Your Eyes Only.
DIE ANOTHER DAY by Batman_9	Apr 10th, 2002 02:07:35 PM
Just to clear something up, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH did very well at the box office...its the highest grossing bond film of all time with 130 million. Of course, if Bond is going to continue, mgm is going to have to find a way to pump more dollars in its theatrical run. With tom cruise's ethan hunt bringing in 180 million and 220 million on two movies and the upcoming vin diesel spy pic...fans are looking to james to come back and kick everyone's ace. I hope he does. This movie sounds pretty awesome. I love the idea of an ice fortress as long as it looks better than that piece of sheet "mr frost- abandoned ice cream factory" ice layer from BATMAN AND ROBIN.
Don't believe that Bullshit story! Halle Berry ran into the by BigTuna	Apr 10th, 2002 02:40:32 PM
DAMN HER!
Newspaper headline I'd like to see... by CoolDan989	Apr 10th, 2002 02:53:27 PM
"Freak Earthquake Destroys Pinewood Studios; James Bond Movie Shut Down"..."It's Not Like 19 James Bond Movies Weren't Enough" Brosnan Says...
Some Excerpts From The TOMMOROW IS ANOTHER DAY Screenplay by Tur by Buzz Maverik	Apr 10th, 2002 03:00:08 PM
INT. ICE PALACE -- COLD DUCKIE'S BOUDOIR -- NIGHT Bond smoothly slips into the ice bed, waking Cold Duckie. COLD DUCKIE:"Wha--? Huh? Who the hell are you?" BOND:"Bond. James Bond." He starts nuzzling her Oscar winning breasts. COLD DUCKIE: "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" BOND:"That should be obvious, love. I'm here to foil your boyfriend's plan and save the world." COLD DUCKIE:"By climbing into bed and humping on me?" BOND:"All part of the operation, love." COLD DUCKIE:"What makes you think I'll have sex with you, just like that?" BOND:"I don't know. Women always do."....INT. ICE PALACE -- COMMAND ROOM --DAY Bond and Cold Duckie skid onto the icy floor. Up by the monitor bank, FRIGID BURR whirls, a wicked grin on his frost-bitten face. BURR:"So, Mr. Bond, you and the fickle Ms. Duckie escaped my shaved ice chamber!" BOND:"That was nothing but a warm up." BURR:"No matter. I have something that will defrost you completely." He hits a switch. Lights come on in a series of pexi-glass tubes along a wall. Strange human sized figures stand in suspended animation inside the tubes. BOND:"More henchmen, Burr? Whom did you hire? Oddjob? Jaws? Knick Knack?" Burr yanks a lever. The tubes rise revealing...THE PENGUIN, MR. FREEZE, CAPTAIN COLD, KILLER FROST, ICE MAN and JACK FROST. BURR:"You're a special case, Mr. Bond. I had to go into a couple of other universes to find something that would cool you down!"....
Deac Speaks.... The Truth (and thoughts on my favorite Franchise by Deacon	Apr 10th, 2002 03:49:54 PM
ok here it is, i got Bored with the talkback thing when i realized "hey, who gives a shit about what these assholes say" so i figured an experiment was in order... how much dirty nasty shit could i talk before i got banned? well thats the current experiment, i'm seeing how dirty i gotta get before i get banned, at first it was just "hey i wannafuck that ass!" now i'm all "i wanna stick it in and pump it raw" soon it'll get to SCAT and whatnot... in any case, the one talkback i gotta get serious on is Bond.. i love all the James Bond Films (even OHMSS the worst one by far is saved because of the brilliant script and Twist Ending... 6th sense my ass who saw THAT coming huh? the drive by?) Sean Connery although good, is not my favorite Bond, i can understand how alot of you would like him most of all but i myself grew up with Moore and i like his take on the character... maybe he was too dry for most of you with his almost Wink at the camera one liners, but i loved it, the "let's take over the world for the hell of it then blow it up" philosophy of the Bad Guys, the Cool gadgets and the Hot girls (Moore had the best chicks) Dalton i feel is very underappreciated as Bond, he brought the character back to Seriousness, and did a fine job i might add, made Bond real and Human, and made him Cold and very Emotionless when he had too, also (as we have never seen him before) really pissed off! but by far the most controversial Bond player has been my main man Pierce. the guy has gotten nothing but flack from fans yet i myself find his take very much entertaining, Goldeneye is the second best Bond Picture helped greatly by his take on the character and rock solid performance! he's like connery and moore combined.. he's funny when he needs to be at the right moments, but can get the cold "i've got a job to do" dimeanor of connery... and the human feel of dalton.. he's the perfect bond i feel.. his only real problem is that right now that bitch Barbera Broccoli is running the show, Pierce could take the Bond Franchise to new heights if only Barbera broccoli would loosen the claws of death from the franchise... she has to make everything cookie cutter and safe... eliminating the things that were once standard for a Bond picture and replacing them with explosions and titties(although nothing wrong with that) i on the one hand liked The World is Not ENough... it wasn't avery good Bond film but i liekd it for Pierce and his damn good performance on the almos evil Bond, and although he was under developed and unerwritten and ery poorly executed, Renard rocked, the most interesting villian since Alec Trevalyan and Scaramanga. overall i think that the only thing holding Brosnan back from proving to you so called "fans" that he is the Greatest Bond of all time is the lack of originality Barbera Broccoli has ensured this franchise will suffer from forever, notto mention the fact MGM has this thing on "play it safe" cause let's face it, without Bond, MGM becomes a time warner company, or a subdivision of Fox. but i do have hope for the franchise... i mean the series will NEVER die, it's too successful and beloved to die... but one day, Barbera will die, and MGM will be bought by Fox (hopefully) and then we'll get the Bond Pictures we truely want..... too bad they'll cast some ass in the role(oh yeah, would Rlph Feinnes not be the obvious choice? he has Bond written all over him! either him or Hugh Jackman(a canadian AND an australian), we've had a New Zealander, and irishman, a scot, and brit, we need a canadian or an australian to play bond! then all the british commonwealth countries have brandished a Bond.) oh and yeah, i'd fuck halle berry in the ass....damn straight i would
Roger Moore is James Bond by fantom penice	Apr 10th, 2002 05:15:06 PM
It's true. Roger Moore is James Bond.
Bond needs....... by Alexandre Dumas	Apr 10th, 2002 05:57:11 PM
Ok, honestly the Bonds of the recent years have sucked royally. Sean Connery was the ultimate Bond because he possessed the total package of physical looks, acting intensity, and slick as ice coolness. That is Bond. Period. Roger Moore made a couple of decent Bond films, but he made the films too much comedy instead of wit, and he never looked like he could whoop somebody's ass. Remember that Bond, besides being a snob with an obscenely rich upbringing, is also ex-SAS, and those guys are the baddest bastards on the planet. Moving on, George Lazenby couldn't act his way out of a traffic ticket. Timothy Dalton could have been a fantastic Bond. He possessed all three of the criteria. However, he suffered from the worst Bond scripts of them all, and his efforts to "humanize" Bond only made him look irrational and weak by comparison to the others. Finally, we come to Pierce Brosnan. He has benefitted from the renaissance of budgets towards Bond and new interest with co-stars. However, he also suffers from bad scripts. Finally, the thing that makes him a ludicrous Bond is the fact that he is so thin that if I punched him I would be scared my hand would come out through his back. He looks like he would blow away in the wind. Truly pathetic, and not near the standard playboy/spy/trained commando/assassain that Sean Connery captured as the ultimate James Bond. The Bond franchise needs a new Bond with the Connery triumverate qualities to be successful. I would suggest either Adrian Paul from the Highlander series, or Hugh Jackman who looks like a young Eastwood as Wolverine. Either choice would bring back some of the raw masculinity blended with gentility and sex appeal that made Sean Connery a legend as James Bond, and the films would be cool again. Just my opinion.
Bond is still my favorite franchize too despite dissapointing Br by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 06:06:24 PM
Yep, I'm a freak of AICN talkbackers too-I like Bond more than Star Wars or LOTR or any other properties(Not saying bond films are better but I just like the character more). After the shit pile that was The Phantom Menace I should not be embarrassed to admit it despite the anti-Bond attitude here at the talk backs("No one gives a shit about Bond anymore blah blah"). The world of James Bond is an attainable fantasy world-at least in the non-action sense. Star Wars is not and that's why I always prefered Bond. It's possible for me to inhabit the world of 007 and drive an Aston Martin or and wear Italian suits/tuxedos and travel to 5 star hotels/casinos around the world and romance exotic women. I'm not there in terms of wealth-but it's POSSIBLE. I could always learn new skills and languages too.Bond is classy,Cerebral,sophisticated, cultured, well trained, stylish, charming, dangerous, and confident. That's something to aspire to be in life. He's an original with shitloads of wanna be's leeching off his success. He's still the best cinema hero we have so it makes the Brosnan era all the more dissapointing for me; These films should Kick major ass and they do not. When that little pussy Tom Cruise's MI films do better than Bond, there is a problem with this world. The film makers and the public are the problem.The public rejected the 2 most radical Bond storylines: OHMSS and LTK. Those films took risks and broke formulas(something we all want to see)and they suffered low grosses. So, the filmakers made "Goldeneye", the most generic and bland Bond Movie ever in response to the negative reception to LTK. They have taken the safe road ever since because Goldeneye have made lots of money. I'd really like to see a great Bond movie-but the PG-13 format won't allow it. In the 80's PG movies used to show tits and ass, just no frontal nudity. Now they can't even show tits (killing ok?)anymore and so these films about a womanizing proffesional killer/spy are totally tame and dull.Bond has to go the R rated route in order to be edgy and sexy again(they way they were considered to be in the 60's) and since young people supposedly don't care about Bond anyway, they have nothing to lose.Brosnan has stated he wants Bond to be Rated too. Fuck the kiddies-let them have their Taco bell tie-in franchises-Give adults their Bond fix again and they will make plenty of money as will the Matrix 2 and 3 wich are also R-rated.
Alexabdre_dumas: Nice piece but... by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 06:21:14 PM
Dude,Adrian Paul? Have you seen Highlander 4? He really sucks! Handsome but no charisma or acting ability. And he's gettin too old anyway. another 42-45 year old hire will give us another 4 films and that's it.The next Bond should be in his 30's-Hugh Jackman might be the best choice-but he needs to stop making lifetime channel chick flicks like KAL and SLY before he loses his testosterone for good. I think he's the #1 contender-Clive Owen is an ugly feck. Ewan Mcgregor is too short and red headed and Viggo Mortensen is also going to be too old. Amazing: a guy playing Wolverine is the best choice for Bond!
Actually Tarl.... by Alexandre Dumas	Apr 10th, 2002 06:38:23 PM
Actually, Adrian Paul is only in his late 30's. He is ideal. It is true, H4 sucked. I would say it reached a new realm of SUCKDOM. However, even Nicholson and Deniro can suck in a badly scripted and badly directed money-squeezing effort from pathetic geezers. I would say to look at his performances in the series circa season two to four. He is quite good in a wide range of acting, does a majority of his own stunts and fighting, and could be hired for a lot less than his contenders. If the film were helmed by someone like John Mctiernan, imagine the possibilities. I agree that Hugh Jackman would be awesome as Bond, and also share your revulsion in his recent slew of career choices. I think he suffers from Hamil-phobia, or the fear of being typecast in a widely known action role. Of course that is only my arm-chair psychologist's assumption. And, once again, this is just my opinion.
Dumas again: You're right:Dalton could have been a fantastic by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 06:55:25 PM
I thought he was a tremendous breath of fresh air after Roger Moore. I started reading fleming around the time Dalton arrived and he nailed the part as well as you could ask considering the limitations of the scripts he was stuck in. He had the intensity, intelligence and menace to be convincing as James Bond(Bond was never a stand up comedian). Brosnan has wanted to do with the part only what what Dalton has already achieved; a grittier, more human take on the character wich was a contrast to Roger Moore's light wieght portrayal( Roger was simpactico but he was the least appropriate choice for 007). I think TD could have been a great Bond to more fans if he had done a third film in '91 and a fourth in '93(as his contract provided for) but the legal delays killed that opportunity for him and for die hard fans like myself. I thought he looked like a secret agent. I think Pierce Brosnan reaks of show business-I can't picture him really doing anything else in life than stand in front of a camera and capitalize off his good looks. I like him but I don't buy that he's a better Bond than Dalton. Compare the way Dalton speaks German in "The Rocketeer" to Brosnan's miserable pronounciation and delivery in TND-I just find it amusing...
Dumas: I read Adrian Paul is 41-in 2000 by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 07:00:27 PM
So if PB does Bond 21 in '04 and then the role comes up in spring '06 he will be too old to have any longevity. That's what I read in an article about Highlander 4-it could be wrong. I say let's get a newcomer with no baggage anyway! feck it!
My favorite Bond actors... by Sod Off Baldric	Apr 10th, 2002 07:12:03 PM
...in order are: 1.) Sean Connery 2.) Timothy Dalton 3.) Pierce Brosnan 4.) George Lazenby. That's it. If you'll notice, Roger Moore didn't even make my list. Why? Because he was hands-down the worst Bond of them all. Of course, that is only my opinion and does not reflect the opinion or tastes of other AICN talkbackers.
Also... by Sod Off Baldric	Apr 10th, 2002 07:13:49 PM
According to IMDB, Adrian Paul will turn 44 on May 29th of this year.
Dumas: Jackman has said he'd like to do it so I think it' by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 07:17:51 PM
I read that on www.comanderbond.net .Maybe that's why he took "Kate and Leapold"-to play a suave English aristicrat and show he's not just some Aussie bloke- as a lobby for 007. Anyway, he seems charming enough. Adrian Paul can do well in action scenes but he seems too wooden to exude the charisma neccessary for this role. I think his chance sailed. Brosnan had enough trouble overcoming his scarlet letter "TV actor" on his chest. I think Paul would tank royally. Utimately, whoever plays this role will need good material-That's what has kept Connery safe from any comparisons.
sodofbaldrec: Your opinion does indeed reflects mine by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 10th, 2002 07:35:31 PM
That's exactly how I rank the Bonds. Roger was too old; he moved like an old man-had a terrible physique (probably wore William Shatner's gurdle between TJ Hooker off seasons) and could not kick Richard Simmon's ass. His hair color was all wrong. He had no threatening vibe whatsoever-but he was charming. I didn't hate him but I was overjoyed when I read Timothy Dalton was replacing Pierce Brosnan who was replacing Roger moore (I liked TD in Flash Gordon). I liked George Lazenby;but only one film-it's hard to stand out-If he and Dalton got more shots I would have been very happy. I was happy for PB when he got the role. Too bad his films are just so-so. I would have loved to have seen Dalton's Bond continue as a rogue agent-on his own picking his adventures and evading MI6-they missed an interesting story line possibility. Bond is like a comic book-he never gets old so they should experiment more. I can't wait for "Die another day"; it seems as though they are trying with this next one-It took those bastards 3 fucking years! This better be good!
Baldric + Tarl- you guys rock... by Dru	Apr 10th, 2002 08:49:32 PM
I've lived with a secret respect for Timothy Dalton's work as Bond for many years now, tucked away beneath strained + reluctant praise for Roger Moore. That tubby bastard was way too old for the role. He looked like a pedophile every time he jumped in the sack with his playthings- ergh! Dalton did the best with what he had (all the other Bonds get threats of world domination, Dalton gets cocaine smuggling with a tele-evangelist false front; COME ON!) so snaps to him. Hugh Jackman... now THAT'S what I call salvation. If anyone could resurrect the true image of Bond, the image that many of us have revered for years, it is Jackman. Out.
Ben Affleck should be the new James Bond by JAGUART	Apr 10th, 2002 10:14:04 PM
Ben Affleck should be the new James Bond after Brosnan retires. I mean the guy is a shoo-in. And with pal Matt Damon around they don't have to look far for a re-occuring arch-nemesis. With their combined off-screen talents they could single-handedly put the Bond franchise firmly into the ground.
Brosnan is the Man! by PhilipBoyard	Apr 11th, 2002 12:37:35 AM
Brosnan single handedly revived the Bond franchise without him it would have died a horrible death after licsense to kill! dalton sucked, moore sucked more, connery was the best, lazenby was..... okay. The World Was Not Enough was a great film the best bond in decades. Since Diamonds are Forever, which is probably my favourite.
Make take on 007 - past, present and beyond. My post is somewhat by erichg	Apr 11th, 2002 01:29:23 AM
Since Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson took over the Bond franchise, the films have been fairly forgettable . . . Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies (the worst of the three) and The World Is Not Enough tease the audience with good intentions and interesting moments, however they succcumb to glaring problems. Let's take an example from each flick . . . Goldeneye: the movie starts with one of the most breath-taking stunts ever captured on film. I defy anyone to argue that the bungee jump that opens the film isn't impressive. The before-mentioned moment is followed with an action sequence that is laughably poor. James Bond leaping off a cliff, entering a falling airplane and flying it to safety fails to work on at least 175 levels. Tomorrow Never Dies: the death of Teri Hatcher's character is a jarring scene. Through Pierce Brosnan's performance, this development opens up 007's persona - making Bond seem vulnerable and real. Sadly, the remaining film discards any pretense of role development. Instead, elaborate and overblown action sequences dominate the ensuing picture. Tomorrow Never Dies begins to feel like a studio theme park stunt show and not a motion picture. Furthermore, a Bond villian (General Chang), integral to the plot, is never even shown on screen (that's not true - the audience catches a glimpse of his backside as he exits a room). That's just a case of really bad storytelling. The World Is Not Enough: well, for about 40 minutes this is a very good movie. Strong performances, a good set-up, dramatic tension and strong action - then, Denise Richards arrives. So much for the dream. She is easily the worst Bond girl of all time (yes, more annoying than Britt Ekland and Jill St. John). Talk about inappropriate casting!!! In all, the last three Bond outings have had a sterile, high-tech look; an over-reliance upon mindless, cartoon-inspired action; poorly-conceived scripts (I really miss Richard Maibaum) and too many damn gadgets . . . It's like the producers are sticking to a formula (that they don't really understand) at the expense of originality. This series is in a rut!!! Sean Connery: four of his 007 movies are true classics. With Dr. No and From Russia With Love the notion of "what ingredients make a Bond film" was not yet set in filmgoers' minds. They were unique movies - taut, sexy and tight. Goldfinger re-invents Bond as a larger-than-life character. Both Goldfinger and Thunderball were designed as blockbuster "event" pictures. They were fresh and exciting. Roger Moore: granted, not the best Bond. However, at least he didn't simply duplicate Connery's performances. No, he brought a carefree approach to the role. Largely, the resulting movies were an exersise in "style over substance." Still, on two occasions Moore got it right. The Spy Who Loved Me is one of the best in the series. Sporting controlled humor, harrowing action, a classic Bond car (that Lotus Espirt is lovely) and a menacing henchman (Richard Kiel's Jaws is a classic nemesis -right up there with Harold Sakata's Oddjob) this movie has it all. Also, Barbara Bach's Russian agent is a wonderful counterweight to our central protagonist. She is every-bit his equal. For Your Eyes Only proved that Moore could play the role straight and still get results. George Lazenby: good-looking chap, but not ready to tackle the part. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a case of great material wasted by a lame performance. Timothy Dalton: he is awesome. He actually took the time to research the Ian Fleming novels and manages to create a multi-dimensional character. In both The Living Daylights and Lisence To Kill, Dalton's Bond is a man on the edge. He's carryng baggage - it's like the weight of history (his time in the service) is heavy upon his soul. Agent 007 can be suave and debonair, still there is anger just underneath the surface. At any moment this guy could just erupt. In my opinion, if you don't care for Dalton as Bond, you're not a fan of the series. This guy saved the franchise by injecting life back into the role. There it is . . . The newer Bond films: Pierce Brosnan has been saddled with poor material. The producers lack vision. There is no openess to taking any chances with the series. Instead, it's one predictable movie after another. Here's my point. A Bond movie will make money whether it's budgeted at $100 million or $30 million or $10 million . . . So stop worrying about making bigger and louder Bond films. Take some risks. Develop a decent script. Hire directors that will give a fresh twist to the pictures. Lastly, don't be afraid to make somewhat smaller, more intimate, character-oriented action flicks. Like I said, worldwide, these things will prouce a return on the initial investments. Hell, the less the movies cost to make, the more substantial the profits will be in the end. Give Brosnan a chance to turn in at least one definitive 007 movie - he deserves it . . . Connery, Moore and Dalton have their triumphs. Let's add Brosnan's name to the list.
The last post should read "My Take" not "Make Take" - I don' by erichg	Apr 11th, 2002 01:35:19 AM

Hugh Jackman would indeed make a good Bond.. by Aquafresh	Apr 11th, 2002 02:02:03 AM
...and also I feel he would make a good Superman as well. Hell, lets just cast him as every major superhero in all future franchises untill he is too old, & then replace him with his own clone. For the record, I am not gay.
BRUCE CAMPBELL SHOULD PLAY JAMES BOND!!!!! by exit272	Apr 11th, 2002 06:21:37 AM
Relax, I'm just fucking with everybody. :-)
Who to play Bond? by willscarlet	Apr 11th, 2002 09:54:59 AM
Hugh Jackman could do the action, but is he suave enough for Bond? Clive Owen is alright, but is mostly a TV actor and he can be a bit one note. Dougray Scott just isn't right. Jeremy Northam's nose is taking over his face. Ralph Fiennes would play him as Hamlet. Adrian Paul SUCKS -what were you thinking? Adrian Lester would be cool, but is black. Robbie Williams wants to be Bond and will never be. Iain Glenn -Too old: Colin Firth -too skinny/old/dull Daniel Day Lewis would never do it. WHY AREN'T THERE ANY BRITISH ACTION HEROES?!
Bigpackagemax: Roger Moore by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 11th, 2002 02:17:35 PM
and Rocky V-Amazing!At least we agree the Phantom Menace sucks (The Phantom Playstation-I like that). Timothy Dalton was a great Bond-his films were could have been better but they were an improvement over Roger's.I like Bond to be a hard ass like in the books-if you read Fleming or John Gardner it is impossible to imagine Roger Moore in the Part. I liked Roger in his first 2 films-he was 45 and 46 respectively but then he was 51,53,55 and 5-fucking 7 years old! His films did have the best scores, theme songs, locations and Bond Girls but he was too old in 5 of his films. I was happy to see him go.-Tarl Cabot *aka Polanco/SpanishPantelones( 2 email accounts)
Bigpackagemax: Roger Moore *correction by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 11th, 2002 02:23:17 PM
and Rocky V-Amazing!At least we agree the Phantom Menace sucks (The Phantom Playstation-I like that). Timothy Dalton was a great Bond-his films were could have been better but they were an improvement over Roger's.I like Bond to be a hard ass like in the books-if you read Fleming or John Gardner it is impossible to imagine Roger Moore in the Part. I liked Roger in his first 2 films-he was 45 and 46 respectively but then he was 49,51,53,55 and 5-fucking 7 years old! His films did have the best scores, theme songs, locations and Bond Girls but he was too old in 5 of his films. I was happy to see him go.-Tarl Cabot aka Polanco/SpanishPantelones( 2 email accounts)
Talk backs out of order again! Anyway, Bond rules by Tarl_Cabot	Apr 11th, 2002 02:52:29 PM
Bond has been a modest success in the wake of big movies like Star wars and Indianna Jones but he has managed to out live most of the competition. The Batman, Star Trek, Indiann Jones, Leathal weapon and Rambo franchises are extinct. Arnold, Sly, Van Damme, Segal, Norris, and Harrison Ford are all either gone or on their way out. And Bond continues. The Matrix, LOTR and the Playstaion prequels will soon be a memory and Bond will provail. Bring on Die another Day!

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