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ANDROMEDA: What's_Ahead!!

ChrFirst I hear Drew and Tom are splitsville, then I see this! by Dlhstar	Dec 18th, 2001 02:26:20 AM
God dammit... Hire the old writer back, now. Give him more money, whores, and cocaine if you have to, but for God's sake bring him back before you fucks turn this into another Earth:Final Conflict.
Lexa's (Rommy) always been hot... by Kiyone	Dec 18th, 2001 02:58:01 AM
...ever since her brief hosting stint on YTV's VIDEO & ARCADE TOP 10 in the summer of 1992 (when I first noticed her). I don't want her dressing slutty; she's a lot more sexy as a sweet n' innocent sort of gal.
I Play the Piano, and I've got Blue Hair... by Kiyone	Dec 18th, 2001 03:03:14 AM
(me I invent things, meep meep meep meep.... Is everything alright down there? Yes nanny!) Ehh, I'd only find Lexa's blue hair sexy if they changed her uniform to a Japanese school uniform with a blue ribbon bow in fromt and back, and a tiara with a sapphire, and if she had attacks called "Shabon Spray" and "Shining Aqua Illusion".
What have then done by Jazza2	Dec 18th, 2001 03:04:18 AM
Why mess with the show, it was doing just fine. Rommy was very hot, and the previous Trance change was so much better. Changing their hair styles is a step in the wrong direction. And I get the feeling that it's gonna get worse :(
sigh by Dr Mom	Dec 18th, 2001 03:04:26 AM

Ick by Mac_27	Dec 18th, 2001 03:17:01 AM
Rommy has always struck me as "kinda hot" - but believable. The shot at the "official site" with the blue hair...c'mon. If we're expected to suspend disbelief long enough to a) accept that she exists and b) she kinda loves Dylan, right? - then the blue hair is supposed to make her more attractive? ::spits:: I want Rommy to look, before all else, efficient. Efficient can look sexy. But the blue hair? ::shudder:: Oh - and Trance's new look in that one picture on the "os" - doesn't do much for me. But its not all about the ladies being hot. In fact, its not really about that at all. It appears to me that these folks have decided to make more stupid pulp rather than anything thoughtful. I can't help but think Sorbo has something to do with this too - The "Herc" formula worked once; why not rehash it in space? I don't think this is quite going to become the crap-fest that Earth: Final Conjob has become (and really - is anyone hoping for another season of that dreck?) but it is wandering dangerously close to becoming its own form of dreck. I don't really need a Herc-in-space show. Herc and Xena were fun but brainless - I like my scifi a little more serious (ie: Hold the fun and brainlessness to about 1/6th of the total.) It also appears the objective is to free the writers of anything arc-oriented...I can only shake my head. I'll keep watching for a while, but I'm not optimistic. - Mac
Well, there went the show... by DrStrange	Dec 18th, 2001 03:28:07 AM
Another case of Demographics over good wuality shows. Don't they realize that a good show will ATTRACT the demographics? I LIKE the original 4-year story arc, I LIKE Trans' tail, and I LIKE the characters as they are. Tribune shoudl just get itslf out of this and sell it off to SciFi Channel. I don't get cable which means I'd miss the show, but at least it would remain intact.
Beginning of the End by WorstBlankEver	Dec 18th, 2001 03:44:27 AM
Looks like the suits are pissing in the pool big time, armed with focus groups and case studies and the like. Oh well, fun while it lasted.
Hah, this show's been TNT'd! by SG7	Dec 18th, 2001 06:50:49 AM
Maybe JMS and Wolfe can start a club for people who's shows get fucked by retarded network execs ?
Look, Fonzie is approaching the ramp! by Weasel69	Dec 18th, 2001 08:22:26 AM
This show is on the brink of jumping the shark. It started when Trance lost her tail.
right.... by js2260	Dec 18th, 2001 08:31:25 AM
I never knew a show would purposely want to 'jump the shark'.
To quote the rock group Queen by roar822	Dec 18th, 2001 08:54:19 AM
"And another one bites the dust..." I think I'll just quit watching now and save myself the agony. Leo
Oh well... by Deathstar	Dec 18th, 2001 09:02:43 AM
This is what happens when you populate your focus groups with 14-year old boys from trailer parks in Arkansas.
a few more months... by rite4u	Dec 18th, 2001 09:05:48 AM
Knowing me, I'll probably watch until the season ends. Will I return next year? Probably not. Good! I can save myself an hour per week, and go find something else to do instead. Thanks, Tribune!
Andromeda, E:FC, & LOTR by ComputerGuy68	Dec 18th, 2001 09:48:22 AM
First, I know I might get bitched at for saying this, but enough LOTR stories!!!! I am so sick of hearing about this movie. Now I will wait for the DVD release when all three are released and the biased hype is gone. This site has 12 references on the home page alone!!! Maybe I should hand in my geek membership card because this site is actually beginning to make me hate certain over hyped projects. I was lucky I didn
I'm wondering what else they can do to make it worse? by Zubalove	Dec 18th, 2001 10:07:24 AM
I am just beside myself with confusion. Why are they changing anything? Wasn't it the "Top Rated Action Hour" or something like that? Why tweak things in such bizarre directions? Well, I'm done watching. I liked the ep with Marsters a lot but if they don't even want to wxplore the interesting stuff they're doing nertz to them. The show will be done in less than three seasons. Oh by the way? Not all shows that the star writes for stink. Ben Browder of FARSCAPE (you were wondering when someone would bring that show up?) wrote an ep called Green Eyed Monster which was arguably the best ep of the season (which is tough because Season Three has been such a fantastic season. This same episode has their ship get swallowed by a giant space critter, so I'm glad Andromeda is farming their ideas from the best sci-fi show on TV. Anyway, Andromeda now sucks and I was one its most determined defenders at the start of the season. I have never heard of a show that has done so much to sabotage its success. It's almost like they WANT to get cancelled. Their wish is the networks command..... Zubalove OUT!
JC & CB by BoBaBrain	Dec 18th, 2001 10:30:17 AM
John Cleese and Connie Booth both wrote and acted in Fawlty Towers, but that didn't suck.
And with Ourobouros...... by djlong	Dec 18th, 2001 10:49:40 AM
In a few weeks, somewhere, a shark waits as Andromeda is headed to jump straight over it....
Just great! Just Fucking GREAT! by WarDog	Dec 18th, 2001 11:46:31 AM
The Powers That Be once again decide that episodic adventure is more entertaining and will draw bigger audiences than story-arcs will have time and time again demonstrated greater ability to hold fans' interest (like DS9 and B5 and Stargate SG-1.) Break out the popcorn and cotton candy. Fluff is far more easy to plan out and write than long-term plotlines. I heard that this is partly due to what Sorbo wants. Don't know about that, but if it's true, then he'd better get through his widdle acting-whore's head that this isn't Hercules anymore.****And shit, Laura Bertram's recent new look (I don't care about the tail, which was never used very well anyway) was just fine; in fact, it improved her attractiveness. They don't need to sex her up anymore than they do Rommie, who's always been a hot, but ass-kicking babe.*****If it ain't broke, don't fix it, but some shitheads always have to tinker. Damn them, I'll give it one more year after this one, to see if it starts to suck, then I'm out.
Baywatch in Space by tbrosz	Dec 18th, 2001 12:45:40 PM
Blood Klot, the bad news is that Baywatch, of course, made a shitload of money. This is probably what the producers are hoping for, although I have never seen this cottonbrained pop culture formula translate well into science fiction shows. Well, maybe some old shows like Knight Rider, but I don't really count that as SF. BTW, remember how they used to dress the women in the original Star Trek?
Haircuts? Puh-leeze... by slowhand	Dec 18th, 2001 12:48:18 PM
Giving Rommie a punk make-over smacks of the persistent racism lurking here and there below the surface of Canadian culture... Lexa Doig already looks about as "fuckable" as a woman can get; she just doesn't look all that Northern European, i.e. pale and blonde and blue-eyed... the thinking seems to be that maybe if they push her look in a more-exotic direction, her almond eyes and dusky complexion won't be as noticable... Now the character who could most use a professional hair consultation is Seamus Harper...the whole "eternal bed-head" thing is so Silicon Valley Last Millennium... let's get Gordon Michael Woolvett a iridescent dye job, and maybe a rat-tail braid and/or a funky pirate earring and punch his quintessential-nerd character up the fashion scale a notch or three... There's even room for a sniping rivalry between Seamus and Tyr about how "inventive" the other's hairstyle gets... Just a thought...
It's bad,It's so very bad.... by SvenOleThorson	Dec 18th, 2001 01:17:47 PM
Rommie looked better before.The show is being pissed on and flushed down the toilet like the terd it is becoming(if it isn't already).
Forget Andromeda, Hire some decent coder's to fix this FUCKI by kentrel	Dec 18th, 2001 01:39:55 PM
I mean you can't even put paragraphs for gawds sake. See what I mean? And Moriarties retarded picture overlaps Talkback, and its impossible to navigate without losing your hair, and the server is so fucking sloooooooooo
You gotta be shitting me... by BurninBullwinkle	Dec 18th, 2001 02:01:21 PM
It's bad enough that they're changing the show into dreck, but damn... "Trance" was already "fuckable" in spades and "Rommy" was incredibly hot as well. The new looks make them out to be Cleopatra 2525 rejects and that's intended to be the ultimate put-down. For God's sakes, why is it when something is perfectly entertaining and successful, Execs have to fuck it up? I considered Laura Bertram to be one of the most beautiful women on TV. She still will be, but nobody is going to be able to tell, it looks like. And Lexa Doig is a refugee from a Japornimation video when she was looking wonderful to begin with. sigh
new alien race by GenoZ	Dec 18th, 2001 02:21:18 PM

The Purple/Blue wigs went out with UFO by Redbeard_NV	Dec 18th, 2001 03:03:41 PM
Yes folks, you remember the first live action Gerry Anderson show that was the prequel of sorts to Space:1999? All the moonbase ladies, regardless of race, wore those wild polyester wigs and skin tight foil suits while defending the Earth with Straker and his gang from S.H.A.D.O. Throw in the "Jonah and The Whale" story that has been rehashed from "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" to "Voyager" to "Hercules" to "Farscape" and it looks like Andromeda's become a bottle rocket that has shot it's wad of propellant and is just waiting for the fuse to burn dow and go POP! Pathetic. Just another piece of Canadian crap.
Star Trek DVDs by cityofnight	Dec 18th, 2001 04:08:09 PM
(Yes, I know this is a TB for Andromeda) Does anybody else have the same complaints regarding paramount's method of selling DVDs? Why can't they just put out the originial series on DVD by season like every other show does. I'm a total fan, but I refuse to buy any Star Trek episode DVDs b/c I think it's highway robbery. My Goodness, I would be so willing to spend 80 bucks per season of ST, but $15-$18/episode or 2 episodes. Ridiculous. I wish all those greedy money-grubbing, over-glorified talentless execs at Paramount to go to hell and have to pay for it out of their own f-in' pocket. I demand you to start work on a whole new program for putting out ST DVDs. I realize you haven't yet completed every original episode yet, but stop it, stop it now, you jerks. I wish I had names to name so I could bag on them and their lineage, but alas, I don't know who is responsible. Paramount, suck on your own shit!
They WERE ALREADY HOT!!! by 2GOLD	Dec 18th, 2001 04:46:07 PM
Now they look like rejects from a Star Trek convention! I DON'T WANT STAR TREK! What is THIS?? Why, why does this show have to go down the crapper! So Dylan is just going to blow off the flesh eating furry infectors headed his way to become HERCULES: IN THE FUTURE! It's suddenly like a MST3K sketch! It's Dylan Hunt, space commander IN THE FUTURE! And Lexa went from "I WANT HER FOR CHRISTMAS!" to "What have you been taking? Say no to crack!". How could Rommie became more f*ckable? Did you see the episode with her in the leather jacket and the freeze shot of her face? ME WANT ANDROID! HOOOWWWWWLLLL! Ok, I'm calming down...blue hair is fine...blue hair is fine...BLUE HAIR IS NOT FINE!!! ARRRGGHHHH!!! I go curl into ball now.
This will make Voyage look like masterpiece frickin theater- by TheMatarife	Dec 18th, 2001 05:06:38 PM
Or ill eat the foulest form of hotpocket, the breakfast pocket.
re: Star Trek DVDs by Kiyone	Dec 18th, 2001 05:36:45 PM
Cityofnight: I have the same problem with the Star Trek DVD boxes as I do with the Ranma 1/2 TV series DVD box sets, and that is, what if I only want to buy certain episodes? Why should I have to buy a full season if I only want to get a couple of episodes from that season? I mentioned Ranma 1/2 because I want to get the 2 wonderful "Charlotte Cup" episodes on DVD, but I don't want to have to buy all 24 of the other Series 2 episodes just to get them. Nothing against box sets (I buy 'em for the X-Files), I just wish they'd give us the choice to buy the individual DVDs as well.
Of course they have to fix it, it isn't broken yet by drew123	Dec 18th, 2001 05:39:19 PM

Cityofnight by Kiyone	Dec 18th, 2001 05:41:35 PM
Oh, sorry, you were talking about Paramount's release of the original series. You'll get your box set wish with the other ST series, which is what I was referring to in my response.
Ourobourous will be the last ep I watch..... by SkeeJay	Dec 18th, 2001 05:48:13 PM
::Begin sarcasm:: Hey guys, look on the bright side, now we don't have to spend precious energy trying to remember was happened in last week's episode. ::End sarcasm:: Damn, and just when I was starting to think it was really cool to have a show with a mythology worth watching on TV........Majel might want to think about taking a little more of an authoritative stance on the next show she creates. She's not exactly batting 1000 on these Roddenberry shows. I mean, come on, they based Andromeda on one sentence that Roddenberry had written down, and now they're axing that.....
This show isn't jumping the shark by Razor42	Dec 18th, 2001 07:30:11 PM
It's climbing straight into the pool
Nooooooo, not the head writer!!!!! by Michel Delving	Dec 19th, 2001 10:12:50 AM
Andromeda has writers?
Nooooooo, not Brent Stait!!!!! by Michel Delving	Dec 19th, 2001 10:14:43 AM
How can they lose the bat guy? He's the glue!
Noooooooo, not the tail!!!! by Michel Delving	Dec 19th, 2001 10:17:24 AM
First the tail and now the skin tone? Poor Trance. Now that's some sarcasm! This show blows. I only watch it for lack of better sci-fi programing. It rounds out my saturday UPN suck-fest quite nicely. Earth, Final Conflict needs an Andromeda chaser.
Andromeda: Final Conflict by Dlhstar	Dec 19th, 2001 12:10:11 PM
Just change the title to the show. Now. This season has been pretty good to me so far in terms of entertainment, with only one 'really bad' episode to my recollection (the jewel theives one... I was too bored by it too keep watching it for more than 30 min.) Damn, you want my predictions on the show? At the end of the 3rd season, Dylan is written out of the story so the producers can afford to hire cheaper talent to fill his space (I know Sorbo's a producer, but they'll probably can him). Andromeda is left with Trance, Tyr, Beka, Rommie, and Harper. A new High Guard Captain will be found (The risky guess goes to Telemachus Rahde, who will constantly butt heads with Tyr and will eventually try to restore the commonwealth in an attempt to reunite the Nietzeans factions under a rule he will be a high authority in. But the safe bet would be someone like a Bruce Campbell or Tim Thomerson who can play a gung-ho captain who don't take shit from no one. To replace the Rev, I suspect we'll see one of his kinder from Devil Takes the Hindmost fill his spot. Either that, or Trance or Harper will becomes more spiritual in the face of losing Rev.) Anyway, I made a bet with someone during the first season that I was sure was going to pay off during the second season, but now I'm really guessing it will pay off the third season instead. That bet is my "Roddenberry Mirror Universe"-theory. The RMU theory states that sometime within the first few seasons of a Roddenberry based program, a mirror universe will be introduced. (Actually, I'm almost hoping that Enterprise does a mirror universe episode where our Capt. Archer provides the mirror universe Starfleet with a key bit of tech or advice that allows them to become the fascist killing fleet they are by Kirk's time (only to have Kirk and that goateed Spock fuck up his plans by making humans into peaceniks and eventually bitches to the Cardies, Klingons, and Bajorans. Thanks a lot Kirk...)
Andromeda/Earth Final Conflict Sabotage by rengaw	Dec 19th, 2001 12:16:31 PM
I agree on these two shows being ruined. E:FC has turned into Earth: The Fugitive. I have actually stopped watching it in disgust! For Andromeda, on a scale of 1 to 10, Rommie was a 10+, while Trance was at least a 9. With the new look, even my sisters are better looking, and they are both over 40 and overweight, but they have great hair! And I liked Trance's tail. Oh Well, at least we still have Buffy and Angel to watch. The SCiFi equivalent of Hercules/Xena seems to be Special Unit 2 as far as humor.
Damn it all to bloody bowels of hell... by Saucy Jack	Dec 19th, 2001 01:40:45 PM
Christ, why is this happening? I don't care about the cosmetic changes to Rommie and Trance...they were hot before, they'll still be hot, and I'm much more concerned about characterization/storyline changes. And if Brent Stait just can't tolerate the makeup, well, that's life. I wish him the best of luck. But dammit, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO DUMB THE SHOW DOWN?!?!? As somebody above said, this show is turning in very respectable ratings. Why fuck with something that's working? Sigh...like most of the more thoughtful posters above, I'll probably watch at least through the end of the series...gotta see how this whole Magog worldship/big purple glowing guy storyline ends up, no matter how much of a lobotomy the new writers give it. After that? Well, Andromeda airs in the same time slot as The Simpsons in my market. I've missed the Simpsons, it'll be good to be back...
Maybe we should make up t-shirts? by Dlhstar	Dec 19th, 2001 03:27:34 PM
A pic of a late season 1/early season 2 of Rommie and Trance with the caption, "Already Quite Fuckable, Thank You." on the front, a little coiled up purple tail on the back with the caption, "Andromeda. RIP 2001"... :) But more than anything else I fear these cosmetic changes (or in Rommie's case, peripheral upgrades) are being used to mask upcoming problems with the coming seasons, almost in hopes of distracting us from some real flaws. God, I hope I'm wrong... I hope that somehow Andromeda manages to still be good...
This is what happens...... by Sofa King	Dec 20th, 2001 12:21:34 PM
This is what happens when you let gay men try to decide how to make women look sexier.
We've had it with this fucking show... by Charlie & Tex	Dec 20th, 2001 04:00:43 PM
Firstly, Sky in the UK fucks it's viewers in the arse by taking the show off, replacing them with a "tribute" to whatever bloody tenuous link to the Next Generation. Now, the show has been got-at by the suits & they've fucked over what was once an enjoyable time-filler. Just before it vanished in the UK, we thought that it just started to get dumber, and Jesus, we were right. And the parting words of "thank God for that..." by a certain departing executive sealed it that the show is heading down the pan, leaving nasty scrape-marks as it hits the sides of the bowl on it's way to the s-bend. What was once a nice souffle of show - a light and tasty treat - has now become icy, leaving a bitter taste in the mouth - a Sorbo - oops, we mean SORBET.
Well, Good Bye Andromeda by Astronomer	Dec 20th, 2001 11:01:30 PM
Earth Final PMS tanked about two years ago. Looks like they're out to destroy Andromeda. I can see why everyone left. What is it with producers these days that think in order to have a Sci-Fi show make it in Syndication you need to exploit the attractive female cast? It's unfortunate. I hated Cleopatra 2020 or whatever it was. I hate most other syndicated only shows like Mutant X, Hercules, Xena. Andromeda I liked. I watched it all the time. From the images added of what they've done to Rommy & Trance I'm done. Purple haird Computer. Nice. NOT
Another MBR Show Sabotaged By Micromanagers by ShutUpRob	Dec 22nd, 2001 04:12:33 AM
Apparently, MBR goes into a catatonic state whenever anyone tries to tell them that they need to stop screwing around with the production staffs of their shows. Okay now, five different status quos for the five different seasons of EFC -- including horrifically stupid costumes and wigs for poor Street -- and now they want to turn Rommie into a Cleopatra 2525 knockoff (a look that didn't work the first time around) and Trance into a -- just what in the hell is that supposed to be anyway? Hints to the idiots at MBR: 1) Cleopatra 2525 was cancelled for some very good reasons -- its designs and stories were terrible (even given the half-hour format) and the pageboy haircut on Cleo and now on poor Lexa might look sexy to -- you know, I don't know who would ever find that hairstyle sexy, 'cause my gay friends (who would know better than heter-old me) would laugh it out of the room for being so early 1980's. On the conceptual level, it says, "They're soooo desperately trying to look neo-punk and just look neo-dumbass". 2) Earth: Final Conflict is the laughing stock of science fiction shows because it has gone through so many studio-mandated changes and so many studio-mandated changes that don't make any sense in terms of narrative logic or aesthetics that it alienated much of its audience before even Season Four began (much less Season Five.) When you're doing a show in weekend syndication, with many pre-empts due to sporting events, sporting events -- oh, and sporting events, mainting the distinctive characters, designs and storylines becomes even more of an imperative, not less of one because the audience needs to know that if they're going to have to hunt down a show, that it's going to be the same show from week to week. 3) I realize that all those action stunts on Mutant X look real kewl, but that's because they work in the context of that show. This is Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda, not Gene Roddenberry's Mutant X and therefore it's morality-tales sci-fi that has action when necessary for the story, not story when necessary for the action. If Tribune wants to program Andromeda to be more compatible with its Mutant X because the shows are shown one-after-the-other in many markets, then they need to accept that it's never going to happen -- at least not this way. 4) If these edicts are coming from execs above even those people running MBR, then MBR needs to show some courage and stand up against them. The lack of committment (much less loyalty) they've shown to Robert Hewitt Wolfe and his vision of the show is just plain appalling. If it's just the people at MBR undermining their showrunners, then I suggest that the entire cast and crew take a page from the casts of "Becker" and the "West Wing" and walk out because this time it won't be for just cash -- it'll be for the dignity of the show, the cast & crew and therefore, it'll be to ensure that the show won't be cancelled due to the abject stupidity of the studio execs. And thus, a walkout will ultimately ensure you all paychecks for a few more years than you'll get at this rate. -- Rob
Forget Rommie and Trance, what about Valentine. She has a 3 cock by IMAFREAKINGTROLL	Dec 22nd, 2001 09:08:52 PM
And me having 3 cocks would be willing too try. I bet she could also suck a golf ball through a hose too.

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