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Butt-Numb-A-Thon 3 - Online Ticket Notifications Sent! First Wave of Standby Ticket Holder Contacted! BNAT-Sold Out!

But how much scratch? by graelent	Oct 17th, 2001 06:42:46 PM
Can I afford this shindig?
When does the line start? by Sergeant Paine	Oct 17th, 2001 07:10:21 PM
When is everyone planning on arriving? What was the situation like last year? I'm trying to calculate how early I need to line up.
Now That's The Wat To Organize A Line. by -mrbean-	Oct 17th, 2001 09:00:06 PM
For once I would like to be in a line that is organized. I am talking about the line-types of people camping out to see a movie or to buy tickets for a concert or whatever. I wish these rules would have applied to the Episode I line I was in or for Ticketbastard lines. Remember the golden rule: those who are willing to wait the longest should be the first to get a ticket and then down the line in order. Ticketbastard fails to understand that concept. The idea of kicking out spot savers is great too. I freaking hate that.
Okay, nobody get in line until after I get there saturday night by GoonLord	Oct 17th, 2001 09:10:05 PM
tee hee...damn real jobs! I knew work would ruin my chances at getting a ticket.
I can't wait! I got my airline tickets today! by 433	Oct 18th, 2001 12:31:05 AM
A sweet little deal for The Minnesota Contingent - $89 for a RT ticket from Minneapolis! Coming down Thursday night, leaving Monday night...man, I can't wait!
age. by DocBosch	Oct 18th, 2001 01:13:23 AM
Mesa eightteen. Is that alright?
To put things in perspective by spitboy	Oct 18th, 2001 07:40:24 AM
Harry wrote: "Last year, people began getting in line in the primordial hours of the morning.... ie 1-2am.... However, tickets sold out extremely fast and most of those that had gotten in line were left without tickets." I was the only loon crazy enough to show up in the middle of the night last year. The person second in line showed up sometime around dawn, which I suppose must've been 7am or thereabouts. The main reason that people who showed up around 10:00am or later went home empty-handed is that the ticket limit then was 4 tickets a head. With the new 2 ticket limit things should even out considerably. I lament the decision that the tickets are going to be sold at the North location, because I work a block from the downtown location and would've provided very conveniently located, clean toilets just around the corner to the people in line. There'll be none of that at the North location, unless someone from the Alamo North sticks around all night to provide people with this service. Or perhaps the kind folks there could get a port-a-potty?
Umm, did I miss something? WHEN TF IS BUTT-NUMB-A-THON? by happywaffle	Oct 18th, 2001 02:19:54 PM
I feel like i'm setting myself up to be that idiot who couldn't read the date, which was CLEARLY printed somewhere in the story, but oh well, here I go. WHEN? At the moment I'm cracking open the calendar to count 50 days from now, since the countdown clock seems to be the closest thing I can find...sheesh Harry.
The BNaT starts... by 433	Oct 18th, 2001 10:16:07 PM
...at noon on Saturday, December 8 and goes until about noon on Sunday, December 9. And I think you have to be 21.
so, anyone in line yet? by GoonLord	Oct 18th, 2001 10:38:16 PM
Just wondering...
I just want to be clear what "Noon" means for us Email folks... by Frank Reynolds	Oct 18th, 2001 11:40:05 PM
For those of us who have to Email our requests in, Sunday at noon means Sunday at noon AUSTIN time, right? I'm in New York, so that would mean 1pm my time, correct? I just don't want to be disqualified because I sent it noon my time, which would be too early.
age by Toranaga	Oct 18th, 2001 11:54:37 PM
You have to be 18 or over to get in.
help a sister out by supershauna	Oct 19th, 2001 09:49:11 AM
I was maybe the 30th person in line last year, I was there for almost 2 hours, and I had to leave my name on a stand-by list to get a folding chair on the side. This year, I'd really like to get a good seat but I don't want to wait in line for 12 hours (and it looks like that's gonna be what we need to do.) so, if someone is planning to wait over night, I
AW HELL YEAH!!!! ; LOTR soundtrack snippet found here!!! by IAmLegolas	Oct 19th, 2001 09:16:07 PM
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I'd like to say something very nice to AICN for telling me i by happywaffle	Oct 21st, 2001 08:58:35 AM

question--important by gah rides again	Oct 21st, 2001 12:41:04 PM
In the field you say "if he gets more than one entry from the same address." Is this e-mail address? Or is this physical address? Can other individuals who have different e-mail addresses but live in the same household also put in for tickets?
Harry, you just pissed of a lot of long waiting line people by Rarecreater	Oct 21st, 2001 01:12:23 PM
You know what you did. That was very very very un-cool what you did this morning. I don't care how much "your leg hurts."
Waiting long for tickets? HA! by Toranaga	Oct 21st, 2001 01:48:09 PM
You wated long for tickets? Apparently not long enough! You were probably there 1 hour or two hours max until you found out. Right? Probably. Try waiting in line for two and a half days next time. Then you would get tickets and wouldn't have a thing to bitch about. Im guessing you were the guy who threw the temper tantrum outside this morning. Well, you bitch at a guy who can hardly walk for not going to the narrow alley in the back of the building, yet you probably didn't bother to go up when you got there to say hi to the guy throwing this shindig and finding out what the status of the line was. Sorry, but after the amount of time I spent waiting for my tickets, I don't feel pity for anyone.
I was there man, and you have no right to bad-mouth Harry by MiyazakiEboshi	Oct 21st, 2001 02:33:15 PM
All I can say is your an ass for bitching about Harry not walking to say hello to you. He could barely walk. . I'm sure it was much easier for you to get off your ass, and go say hello to him if you really wanted to. He sat with us for over 12 hours and just talked and told us stories, it was great. Anyway. . .I'll be seeing all of you at the BNAT3 this December. . .good luck with tickets online folks.
Re: rarecreater by Captain Fantasy	Oct 21st, 2001 03:01:09 PM
Dude, you're such an asshole. Harry can barely walk and has been pretty much bed ridden for the last month or so, but he comes out because he loves the line so much and takes center stage for us for over 12 hours and you bitch because you show up 7 hours before tickets go on sale when people had been there for over 48 hours already and bitch because you were too stupid to ask the basic questions that 99% of the people did when they first got there "how many tickets are they selling, and what number am I?" Dude, most people that got there around 10PM Saturday night got tickets... but you waited until the last second and then make an ass of yourself in front of everyone by going off on Harry, a man that can barely stand the pain in his back... and then have the nerve to get on here and continue to make an ass of yourself. Just to let you know, you said that Harry pissed of a lot of people waiting in line, dude, you were the ONLY one throwing a fit like a f'ing baby and YOU were the only one that pissed of a lot of line people. So lick our collective balls.
Re: Rarecreator -- Harry Here by HEADGEEK	Oct 21st, 2001 04:18:51 PM
Buddy, I understand. You didn't get the tickets. I'm sorry. You waited 7 hours. My leg doesn't hurt.... My Legs Don't Work. Period. When I finally went to leave it took 5 tries to stand. A full 30 seconds to stop the legs from trembling, and then a desperate crutch walk to get to the bathroom before pissing myself. Made it, barely, but it took 8 tries to stand up off the toilet. There was no pain, only complete lack of it. The legs ceased to obey me as I got tired. The doctor had ordered me not to come out to the line, because it was "A BAD IDEA" I did it anyway, and would trade a month of solitary confinement in my room to enable that night I just spent with folks that love film, fandom and the spirit of the line. Whenever you go to get in the line you run the risk of losing. Whether it be filling up or the manager just not liking your face. I WAS NOT IN CHARGE OF TICKETS. The Alamo Drafthouse had that 'honor'. They posted times for when they would be open, you could call their information line to find out more, read this site, their site or ask anyone at the front of the line what the status was as soon as you arrived. This is standard basic LINE Protocol. I had no responsibility to be in line at all, I was there to show special treats on the computer, answer questions about films, the internet, folks I've met and questions about the further adventures of fatass. Everyone that came up and asked me if they had a chance of getting tickets for the event, I asked their number and shot straight with them. I was at the front front of the theater, and didn't move at all. If you still want to come I recommend trying the Internet Option and hope Karma hasn't bitten you in the ass. This is my birthday party, a charity event and something done for the fans of the site and films. There is a maximum of 240 or so seats, the people that bring you AICN each year represent 50 folks, 10 seats are held for filmmakers and guests of the festival, the rest is evenly divided between in towners and internet folks. This is the fairest way I can think to serve the local and at large community, without being such a logistical nightmare that it ceases to be fun for me and Tim to throw. If I can suggest something, ask questions early and often. It's a good way to make friends and make the time pass and to find out what you need to know. Hopefully you signed up for the standby list or get lucky Online. Take care.
Harry is the fucking man by Nordling	Oct 21st, 2001 05:47:44 PM

Harry is the fucking man by Nordling	Oct 21st, 2001 05:51:27 PM
Harry, you rock. Don't even pay attention to that asshole. Right now, we're all cuddled in our beds, holding out beautiful BNAT tix, and he's crying like a pussy. Gotta be mean on this one. I showed up at 11:30 Saturday morning and had the best time talking with everyone. Your laptop stuff was amazing, and if you noticed, I was bawling like a baby when you showed that special thing. Thank you man for a priceless experience and I can't wait to see you in December. Rarecreater, you threw down your shit like a baby and ran. You don't deserve to come. Harry, I got your back, yo. What you want for your birthday?
back to HeadGeek by Rarecreater	Oct 21st, 2001 07:22:46 PM
I tend to not badmouth anybody under any of my multiple names on this site. In truth, I never have. Also the few times we've talked in person we've been completely friendly. So I sincerely thank you for the tasteful prompt response. I don't want ot go into details over what happened this morning but two points I feel must be stressed. One, don't switch horses midstream. You create the expectation, so don't change supply like that at the last minute. It simply is not fair to the fans. A sudden change of 30 seats is over 10% of the house's capacity. Second. When I say the leg issue I'm not trying to attack you. I simply was dissatisfied with your respect for the fans and I feel there is no excuse for that in any way. I seem to dislocate my kneecaps as a career occupation, so I understand your pain and sympathize. But you have to address these people and not dismiss them like that. Again you set the expectations here, so it is your repsonsibility. More importantly, the respect we recieved made me realize that I didn't want to go. I went last year and enjoyed it (especially that Al Jolson piece), but today made me feel I don't feel like I want to spend 24 hours with the gang again. But most importantly, forgetting me, what happened today is you pissed off some important people. These specifically are people who help you get the great movies you get to show at these festivals. And just be aware of that is all that I say. Besides that, get better. Talk some time down the time.
Thank You Harry for BNAT by Margarethe	Oct 21st, 2001 08:07:19 PM
Harry- I have read and enjoyed your sight for years, run in to you around town, and even interviwed you, but this is my first ever talkback/posting on the website. December 8th will also mark my first BNAT. After what I experienced over the last 24hrs., I just had to say something. I was one of those brave numb-assed souls at the Alamo North for the last 24 hours. After I came home and crashed for a few hours, I just had to say thanks for sitting with us. I genuinely liked sitting on line with the coolest bunch of "geeks" I've ever met and Harry, when you showed up with the crutches, I knew that the night was going to go by faster. I also realized that not one person had a right to complain about the line or how long THEY had to camp out there. Thank you for the great hours of conversation, the "special feature" and for creating a place a girl could feel safe while sleeping on the sidewalks of Austin. I'll see you and all of my fellow "linesmen" in December. -Margarethe (the girl in red)
:re:re:rarecreater by Captain Fantasy	Oct 21st, 2001 08:51:47 PM
I swear dude, I've never wanted to put someone in a small closet with 200 rabid weasels covered in grape jelly (you, not the weasels) in my life. Even now Harry is trying to be understanding with your sorry ass unlike some people (ahem) and you come back and make a school yard threat to him. Also, there is nothing I hate more than someone trying to pat someone on the back while shoving the knife in ya bastard. Harry, don't even feel the slightest bit sorry for this jackass, he's lost that privilege. I was in the back of the line and we all knew the odds (when we gave a crap to bother and ask) and we were all willing to take the chance. I'm looking forward to celebrating a birthday with friends come December 8th, Thanks Harry, I know you didn't have to but you did.
Re: RareCreater - Harry here again by HEADGEEK	Oct 21st, 2001 09:27:23 PM
RareCreater, First, there is only two people locally that have helped me secure a few of the films over the couse of the festival. Anthony Timpson from New Zealand. Tim League of the Alamo Drafthouse. Myself. And a series of directors that live in Hollywood. If there was someone in line claiming that they helped me secure the films for BUTT-NUMB-A-THON 1, 2 or 3... They were lying to you. In addition to those people, there is Moriarty. Who was sleeping the sleep of ages in California at the time. As for changing horses mid-steam. I literally have no idea what you are talking about. There have always been 230 seats at the ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE Central. Tim is usually able to place seats on the side rows of the theater to enable extra folks to take seats. Each year of the fest I pull 50 seats. Did this last year and the year before. You see, this event is not only a charity event for SATURDAY MORNING FILM CLUB, not only is a film festival, but it is also my Birthday. I had to turn friends down for extra tickets this year because the AICN folks actually grew. But I froze the number of tickets I would take, because we couldn't take anymore. 50 is tops. There is a 10 seat hold for special guests this year which is the ONLY ADDITIONAL RESERVED SEATS, and that's because last year at BUTT NUMB A THON, you might remember I had to give up my seats so that some guests that attended, would be able to have seats, and me and several close friends had to walk around and grab side seats, etc. I never did get my seat back, never did get to sit next to the gal that I was planning on spending my birthday with. To make sure that doesn't happen this year we have that cushion. HOWEVER, if those seats are not spoken for within a certain time period... those seats will be released to the standby folks. The only question that was going on this year was what was the total amount of seats to start with. I had been told 250, the Drafthouse folks were told 230. When Tim gets back here on Tuesday, I'll straighten this out. If those extra tickets become available, then they will be released to 'stand-by'. BUT we couldn't release those today without talking to Tim to assure that he did indeed have the ability to do it, if it worked within FIRE MARSHALL CODE, etc. The Drafthouse Folks didn't know what to do with the discrepency in numbers, so I decided to stay on the side of safety, which is to go with the lower number, to ensure that everyone who was sold a ticket today did indeed have a ticket, rather than Overbook the screening, which would be even worse. RareCreater, I'm really sorry if this upset you and whoever these people are that claim to help with programming this festival, but unless Tim has kept people secret from me, there are no additional people that have helped. The first year we had help on the sponsorship side by GSDM, The Austin Film Society and The Austin Chronicle. But certainly noone from those places made themselves or their presence known to me at the line today or yesterday. This year, 100% of the films that are programmed were picked and negotiated to get by only two people. ME and MORIARTY. Tim, Anthony and Harry Guardo have offered help in programming this year, but as of yet we have not needed to rely on them for the programming side YET. We'll see how the coming weeks pan out, but it is looking very good. As for my respect for the fans... Had you been there for any length of time at all, you might have noticed that I was spending vast amounts of time with the fans, answering any and all questions to the best of my ability. If some fans felt slighted, then they must not have even approached me. Because I was certainly there to answer any and all questions as best I could. And all the way to the start of BUTT NUMB A THON, I will endeavor to fill every seat with as many fans as possible. Many of the people in the first 40-50 folks in line drove great distances, took off work, begged spouses and took the time they felt necessary to get their tickets. This year was the first time we experienced this type of turn-out. It was far more than the amount of seats could handle. Every year a full half of the seats available go to Internet folks... This is because AICN is not just an Austin site. I love Austin. Grew up here, born here, but in terms of the folks that read the site, it represents one of the smaller reading areas, as the site has many many many times more readers in far off cities, states and countries. I try to have that diversity of attendees represented as fairly as possible. These folks must drive non-stop in the days and nights before BNAT to get to their event. They must purchase air travel, hotels and take usually an extra day either side off of work or family to attend. While there were 100 - 150 folks turned away from the Drafthouse this morning for tickets, when the Online submission is finally worked through, thousands will be without tickets. Last year's online demand was enough to fill the Paramount theater locally many times. This year it could be far worse. Tim and I endeavor to try and figure out what possible things we could do to allow greater access to the event, HOWEVER... if this ever ceases to be fun for me and Tim to do, we'll simply not do it. After all, this fest represents to him and me a cumilative celebration of the entire year that came before. The combination of every trick, every bit of fun and every new idea we can muster in a given year. Several people that were turned away today will still get tickets by way of Stand by, if you signed up after the domestic tickets sold out you have stronger odds to still attend, than the massive amounts of emails that Tim and I will be going through on Tuesday. I hope this answers many of the questions you had. We try to be as fair as possible in creating a very difficult situation where we have thousands that wish to come and less than 250 seats. Best of luck, I know it isn't easy to get tickets, but that's the situation. Tim and I will endeavor to make it easier. Many many many more folks in line this year got tickets than last year. I'm sorry you were not one of them.
calm down everyone! by Jiggletiddy	Oct 21st, 2001 11:04:07 PM
Ladies and gents, please! Please take a look and you will see that although Rarecreator has a complaint, he and harry have been _CORDIALLY_ discussing it. There have been no jabs or profanity in either of their responses, only in the others on talkback. Let's try to remain adult about this and not denigrate to the level of schoolchildren.
I like wallowing in geek by supershauna	Oct 22nd, 2001 09:58:50 AM
I was one of the many people that was waiting for hours and I did not get a ticket. However, as soon as I arrived after my long bus ride, several folks let me know it was futile, and I spoke to Harry and he agreed. But because I was able to get in last year on stand by, and because I didn
Classic haves and haves-not by RP McMurphy	Oct 22nd, 2001 11:22:08 AM
I got tickets so I'm not pissed off. Other people didn't and they are. That's completely understandable and neither side should begrudge the other for the way it feels, because that's what's going to happen. Winners rejoice and non-winners (I don't want to use the term "losers") grumble. It's the natural order. But I was near the cut-off point and witnessed the bad communication at work on Saturday night/Sunday morning. People showing up late Saturday night were given incorrect information about ticket availablility and the chances of getting tickets. People probably could have gone up front to get the skinny (or the fat, as the case may be), but if you've never been to the event before or aren't exactly on buddy-buddy terms with Harry and his inner circle, you may not feel comfortable doing so. Geeks can be harsh to the uninitiated. So, as it turned out, accurate information was not given out until early Sunday morning. However, the people delivering the information were pretty rude and all but urged people past a certain point in the line to leave. There was no cheery talk of stand-by or anything like that. They were pretty much ridiculed for waiting so long for "nothing" and sent on their way. None of this affected me because I was within the safety zone (barely), but I can understand some of the anger because of the lack of communication. And that's where the controversy begins and ends. Supply is supply and demand is demand. Nothing can change that. Was it nicer last year when you could line up four or five hours ahead of time and get a seat? Sure. Is it a bit unfair to insinuate that people who can't set their entire lives aside for 48 to 24 hours to stand in a line are somehow lesser film fans? Absolutely. I know one guy who got turned away who got in line as soon as his show was over on Saturday night. There was nothing he could do about it. He can't call the rest of his cast members and tell them there can't be a show because he's got to be in line. (From the look of it, I guess he could have lined up early and gotten someone to hold his place while he went to his show- as some people had people holding their place while they went in and saw a movie- but that was supposedly against the rules. So, I feel bad for him. He's a huge film fanatic- a real and true geek- but he's a geek with an outer life that can't be put on hold. Be that as it may, the fact is that communication needs to be improved. The number of seats is fixed. The number available on-line and in-line is fixed. And the number Harry holds back should remain fixed from the get go. Basically, the system is such that any person joining the line should be able to know exactly how many tickets are available, what the stand-by situation is, and what their chances of getting in are. This isn't general admission where anything can change at any moment. People just need the information. It tends to head off the anger and makes for a smoother ride. In any case, I hope everybody's cooler today and better rested. I hope film geeks everywhere are having a great day whether they're living with Mom and have no obligations outside of getting their fix or toiling away to make a better life for themselves while so they can enjoy their mania. See you at Number 3 and let's try to be cooler with each other. There's no need for another way, especially over movies.
"No need for another war, especially over movies." Disregard th by RP McMurphy	Oct 22nd, 2001 11:27:01 AM

The Line by Captain Fantasy	Oct 22nd, 2001 12:31:36 PM
Hey guys, one last post from me Mr. School yard... first, sorry for going off on the dude (sort of) but if this guy being an ass here in talkback was the same guy that was going off on Harry that morning in front of everyone is the same person then he had already brought it down to a baby level of conversation. Harry also handled the guy like a real gentleman there and here now, but you know, after seeing how much pain Harry was in that night and to see some jack-ass come attack him there and then again on-line, I went off. There might have been a drop in communication sure, but all I know is that around the number 50 mark everyone was telling people that came afterward they might be in the "no-ticket zone" but to go ahead and sign the list anyway because none of us were sure of the number of tickets and some people might be only getting one. So, people knew the risk and I'll say this, except for rarecreater here, everyone was a true geek about it and fought the good fight knowing they might not get the prize. So hats off to you guys and girls in the back that had the faith to stay and be very cool about it at the same time, and if you got on the standby list you probably have a better chance of getting tickets than you know.
RE: R.P. McMurphy by Vegas	Oct 22nd, 2001 02:06:25 PM
I was the guy who showed up early Sunday morning to apprise the back of the line of the situation. I wish to apologize if I seemed gruff or insensitive in any way, as that was not my intention. For the record, I showed up around eleven in the morning on Saturday after a three hour drive from Houston. I got maybe thirty minutes of sleep in the back of a VW bug throughout the entirety of the weekend. If I appeared in any way rude, I again apologize, but also keep in mind that I, like everyone else towards the front of the line, were in an exhausted state mentally. That said, I do remember what I told everyone, and it was this: There is a limited number of seats in the Drafthouse, therefore there is a limited number of tickets. Only about 100 tickets would be sold that day in the line, and almost everyone in line was buying two tickets. We counted along the line to find the fiftieth person, and told everyone after him that their chances for getting tickets were not good. I never said impossible, I just said that there was a 90% chance that they would be turned away. I then told them that they should know this, in case they wanted to sleep in their beds that night instead of on the floor of a back alley. Why did I go back and do this? Well, when I arose from that aforementioned half-hour of sleep I was told of the man who had been expressing his dissapproval of the way the line was handled. Everyone agreed that someone should go back there and apprise those at the back of the line of the situation, but at that early hour of the morning some were worried about what to do if the news was not taken well. Harry wanted to go tell everyone the situation, but as has been stated, he was immobilized, he had no use of his legs. I had just woken up five minutes prior to going back there, my eyes didn't work, I was cold, I was tired. I thought everyone else back there that might be feeling the same way as I did needed to know the situation, so I flat out told them. I DID mention that there would be a stand-by list, and I also mentioned that everyone back there had a chance to get tickets over the net if they so chose. Regardless, I do hope everyone who stayed and got put on the standby list is able to get tickets, and I hope to see you all either at BNAT3 or at any of the other many film festivals that are held in Austin every year. I also hope that no one who didn't get tickets feels like they wasted their time, and that everyone made a few new friends, if only for a short while.
crying out loud by drjones	Oct 22nd, 2001 02:43:26 PM
rrghhhhh.....:) i didn`t even have the possibility to stand in this line...and i`ll never get the possibility to travel to bnat...i live in GERMANY!!!!!!( however....harry if you read this(which is written in f** english)then let me say to you that your site, the staff(moriarty etc.), and yourself, you`re all F A N T A S T I C..i can`t express it in words nice greetings from frankfurt/germany and harry....is your birthday on december 8th or 9th?????
what were you sitting on, Harry? by moboid	Oct 22nd, 2001 02:53:46 PM
Hee hee, I love the Freudian typo in Harry's latest post! "I went down to the Drafthouse North and spent the last 17 1/2 hours sitting on a hard wooden bitch..." Harry, I bet you really hated that bench after 17.5 hours, but no need to call it names. ;) And thanks for sitting with us that night. - Heather
see the Last Hope by flarna	Oct 22nd, 2001 04:39:14 PM
It a really cute documentary (it just played at the Austin Film Fest) about the people that waited in line to see the premiere of Phantom Menace for six weeks in front of the Mann's Chinese Theater. That makes all of us that waited for the BNAT tickets look lucky. And smart, since they could've seen the movie later in the day anyhow, but we only have one chance to see the BNAT. (Directors: Chris Hrasky & Kurt Volk)
For the record - I was not the angry guy by Rarecreater	Oct 22nd, 2001 05:01:48 PM
My last post on this. McMurphy, thank you for your fair words and thanks again Harry for another full response. The issue is clear communication and even importantly, when you have such a limited supply: underpromise and overdeliver. That way nobody is angry. Peace out.
Re: Vegas by RP McMurphy	Oct 22nd, 2001 06:04:11 PM
That's a fine explanation, but the fact is that motives are one thing and actions are another. I've said things a certain way before because of lack of sleep or general crabbiness that I've regretted later and telling anyone the reason why you might have said something or said it a certain way is not an apology. It just is what it is. Your mindframe at the time. In any case, since I didn't mention you by name, I wasn't trying to cast aspersions on you at all. I was just reporting what I saw and heard. To be fair, you did at least report the correct information. (Though I honestly don't remember you holding out the stand-by list as a valid possibility. It sounded pretty iron clad from where I sat.) My gripe would be with the guys who reported the incorrect information the night before. (I don't know who it was and I don't want to know, so save your post.) The fact remains that many people spent various amounts of time and received various results. That's life. The difference comes with the way people are treated. And, regardless of motives, there was a distinct lack of respect on display. Respect for people's time, sensibilities, and self-esteem. And there's no reason for that. This is a pasttime that we have all decided to dedicate a certain amount of our lives to. It doesn't make us cool or better or more with-it than anyone else. It just makes us different. And we should try to treat each other with respect and kindness whenever we can. I know I'm saying this to some people who call for Spielberg to be whipped and tortured for AI, but I thought I'd pass it along. We are, none of us, very remarkable. If we were, we'd have better things to do than stare at shadows on a wall for hours and hours on end. So, if we take that into account and treat each other well, it actually makes for a better world. Now if only the movies were better. . .
Sorry my apology didn't seem real enough for you, here's by Vegas	Oct 22nd, 2001 10:02:22 PM
Fuck you. I apologized, I offered an explanation, neither of which I had to do, sorry that's not enough for you. Sorry trying to keep everyone informed was so rude of me. If that ain't enough, then go fuck yourself.
OK, Im gonna switch gears here by Toranaga	Oct 23rd, 2001 09:07:36 AM
I would just like to thank everyone and everything that made the two and a half day wait fun and tolerable. Lots of thanks go out to the folks at the Alamo. Those guys hooked us up with pizza, movies, coffee, and most importantly bathrooms. Lots of thanks to Harry also for coming down and hanging out for many hours when he didn't have to. You know, doctors orders. My line neighbors who tolerated 6 hours of screeching alarm with me. Everyone in line who shared food, drinks and stories. The APD who didn't give me a ticket, although he thought I was waiting for one of his. Body Business. Tina Turner. Whoever brought the TV and VCR so I could watch some Shaolin Soccer. Quint, Auntie Meat, Neil, and Wixlet for the donuts. Whoever handed me the potato skin as I walked by. Yummie! And thanks to whoever Im forgetting. It was lots of fun. I already can't wait for next years line. Oh the horror!
Waiting in line by mjbok1	Oct 23rd, 2001 09:41:52 AM
My only question is how can people afford to wait in line for 'x' amount of time. If it's more than a handful of hours, don't people have jobs? I'm not slamming on people, I just can't understand it. Like with people waiting weeks for The Phantom Menace. I got in to see the first showing of that and I waited for it (2 minutes on hold to buy the tickets over the phone.) I guess I'm just not as much of a film fan as a lot of y'all, but it seems like a lot of time wasted (if you had the time to start with.)
Waiting... by 433	Oct 23rd, 2001 09:47:21 AM
Most of these people seem to have waited since Friday night or Saturday. So they don't work on the weekend, what's so shocking?
The asshole, himself. by Bad Man	Oct 23rd, 2001 10:10:59 AM
Yep, that was me bitching Harry out in front of the Drafthouse early Sunday morning. Lots of bullshit being thrown around, so I'll clarity my position just once and leave you all to decide what's what for yourselves. The issue was not that my friend and I didn't get tickets; we were prepared for that. We knew we were coming in pretty late in the game, and our chances of getting in were slim. Oh well, them's the breaks, see ya next year. What drove me bugfuck out of my mind was this; according to Harry himself on Sunday morning, there were only going to be about 80 or so tickets available for sale at noon. That is, if every person were to buy 2 tickets, which almost everybody did, only the first 40 - 45 people, at most, would get in. Cool. These are the hardcore, dedicated geeks and they deserve what they get for their labors. But. When my friend and I showed up, the line stretched around the back of the building and into the nasty-ass alley behind the building, where some people had been camped out for hours on dirty concrete. We were number 70. This was from a list of names written on the back of a ratty envelope that Harry apparently hadn't seen. Harry didn't know how that there were 30 people more than could possibly get in waiting in line. For hours. In a fucking alleyway. Next. To. A. Dumpster. Neither Harry nor any of his cronies had bothered to keep any kind of tabs on what was going on in the line. For an event he had sponsored. Maybe he couldn't have gone around the building to check what was going on, owing to his physical condition, but one of the dozen or so friends he had with him surely could have. How hard would it have been to have checked on the number of people in line? How difficult would it have been to have to have informed these people that they had next to no chance to get tickets and that they were there at their own risk (and no, geeky guy with the grey shirt and the black rimmed glasses, you didn't warn them off when the line got to about fifty. How do I know? Because there were 70 people there.)? Basic responsibility and courtesy, I think. I mean, fuck us; we were only there about half an hour. The people ahead on us, some of whom had been there for hours, had no idea of what the situation with the tickets was. If they had, they wouldn't have been there. In an alley. Next to a dumpster. Your fans. Harry's reaction when he finally saw the list? "Wow, let's tell these people to pack it in and go home."? No. How's about "Dude, you need to tell these people to fuck off; they should have gotten here earlier. Losers."? Nope. Try "(giggles) Boy these people are fucked." followed by everybody laughing about it for ten minutes and not doing anything about it. Guess you had to be there. So; have a great time. Enjoy the films. Happy Birthday Harry. And Fuck You. P.S. It's really funny to hear you guys complaining about how I was picking on a guy with Harry's condition. When I pulled up to talk to him (I never raised my voice or made any threatening gestures.), the lot of you backed up so fast you'd have thought I was a tough guy or something (I'm 5' 4" and overweight). Flame away; it's pretty easy to say you stuck up for your pal across the Internet and two days after the fact, isn't it?
Harry's Cronie and your dumb luck by Massawyrm	Oct 23rd, 2001 12:17:05 PM
Bad Man...sorry that happened dude. But if you were indeed number 70, then I must ask...why in the hell didn't you ask anyone around you your chances? Me, Harry's Cronie, Massawyrm, Took over list duty at about person 45. Everyone who signed the list the entire time I was there was appraised of the situation. The last number I remember was 67, who I told was in the "fucked" catagory. If you had no clue what the ticket status was, then you obviously didn't bother to ask ANYBODY. At All. I made sure anyone that came in after the 45th person in line knew the score (until I had to leave at 7 am) If you were there before 7, then I told you you were pretty much S.O.L.. If you were not told this, you did not talk to anyone...is any of this making sense? Many people arrived and never bothered to ask questions. I made it a point to seek them out and appraise them of the situation. I'm sorry if you didn't get tix, but truth of the matter is, if you waited that long and didn't bother to ask anyone anything, then I have no sympathy, because everyone in that line up until you knew the score. Oh, and Toranga, that was my TV and VCR, just doing my part for the team.
Not so sure about that... by Bad Man	Oct 23rd, 2001 01:29:12 PM
I did ask questions. That's why I only waited in line a little under a half an hour, as opposed to some of the other people. You told number 67 he was fucked? That's kind of interesting; I let the last few people in line know what Harry had told me about the 80 tickets and everybody back to the corner of the building seemed more than a little surprised. That's at least 20 people who I talked to for a few minutes and told me that they had no idea of what their chances had been. Not one. Not two. Not even five. Many. Oh, and nobody told me anything when I signed up. I asked "Is this thing relevant at all?" when I signed the envelope, and all I got was a grunt and a shrug, which is what got my suspicions going in the first place. But anyway...I've said everything I have to say. Rejection I can take. Basic lack of courtesy, no. Have fun and at least make an effort to keep everything a little professional and organized next time. Ciao.
The line by MagiCaspar	Oct 23rd, 2001 01:41:07 PM
Wow...This is crazy. This talkback is just the opposite of the feeling of the line. I was there from the begining, yet the feeling was positive throughout. Dadulin, Martha, Heather, Ulf, Rod...It was cool just chilling and chatting with them. And saturday was crazy and beautiful. Film Geeks United from their various haunts to get some tickets. I almost didn't feel I deserve them (besides the fact I was there at 10 pm Thursday). These were guys that have been there and done that. Yet they accept me and my pal, which was great. And Harry almost bugging out when he found out. So, for those who got tickets, congrats. And those that didn't, it sucks. It truly does. But, it's no point badmouthing the Guys who are throwing this shindig. So you miss this one. Big Deal. If we keep bad mouthing the Drafthouse, AICN, and everyone else, who knows how long this will go on? -Travon
Will this settle it? (Probably not.) by Glitterman	Oct 23rd, 2001 02:11:16 PM
I haven't posted here before, but I thought I'd throw in an eyewitness account that is free from vitriol and maybe shed some light on the whole thing. I was number 56 and my pal was number 57. We showed up around 11pm on Saturday. (Sorry that I couldn't free myself up from my obligations to come earlier, but theater companies and fellow actors get really pissed off if you don't show up for call time for a performance to wait in line for a film festival.) Anyway, I knew it was chancey, but the guy handing around the list (Massawyrm, I assume) told us that everyone over #50 was in the "question mark area". He siad that Harry had held back forty tickets for himself, but that there were people in line "that would probably not be buying two tickets, so you never know". Whatever. We figured what the hell, put our names down, and set up camp. The weather was decent and my friend, who I hadn't seen in quite a while, and I got to talk about everything under the sun (or moon) and I even managed to fall asleep at one point. So, a fairly cool night. About 7am, another guy came up from the back of the line (BadMan, maybe?) said that the front of the line was laughing about everyone in the back of the line, saying that "if those dumbasses can't do the math, then they're fucked". Not the nicest thing in the world, but I didn't hear it personally, so I'm not saying it happened. A bunch of people left. I had just woken up, so I wasn't about to get up. Then a guy came from the other end of the alley (Vegas, maybe?) and said that Harry was holding back sixty tickets for himself and that everyone in line would be buying two tickets and that everyone after #50 was SOL. That seemed pretty final, so we figured we could get some breakfast and grab a few extra hours of sleep before rehearsal and performance later that day, so we packed up and left. And that's the way I saw it happen. I'm not particularly ticked off because I knew the risk going in. But there was some discrepancy between the basic info given out and the nature of it. That's the only source of controversy I can see, but it's not worth making a federal case over. It's a film festival. There will be others and there are plenty of movies to see in the meantime. As for LOTR- and, let's face it, that's the thing everyone's so excited about- it will open ten days after BNAT3 and I'm grown up enough to wait and see it on opening night. If I can't wait to see it for ten more days, then I'd be pretty infantile, so I'm not going to get all upset over it. If my schedule was such that I could have waited in line for 48 hours, I'd be back to where I was five years ago, and that's pretty sad, so I'm not going to feel bad about that either. It was just a case of not getting in line on time. Happens all the time. So, everyone should just cool down. Information was not delivered well and some people feel especially fucked, but in the end it is what it is. Go see some movies, check out some DVDs. (Hell, you could spend over 24 hours going through the new GODFATHER set alone.) Maybe next year. Maybe not. So what? Move on. People are dying because they opened their mail. There are obviously bigger problems in the world than the way a movie line was handled.
What would really be cool... by Z-Man	Oct 23rd, 2001 03:20:57 PM
is if Harry DIDN"T show LOTR! Piss off the dumbshits. All the cool people would be just as happy to be seeing 12 cool obscure flix in a row.
the alley by flarna	Oct 23rd, 2001 05:20:32 PM
well if you only waited for a half an hour and you were in the alley, then you obviously just rushed back there. since I showed up at 7:00am and most of the people back there were still sleeping. I decided that there was not any reason to wake up people by stepping on them, so I declared myself the new end and started the line around the front. when they started selling tickets at noon, there were at least 10 people in line after me, and we were telling anyone that even looked slightly confused that the line ends 'here'. I even had a sign (a kinda lame sign, I must say) propped up on my backpack until it blew away, that said there were not any tickets left(and it was someone from Harry's area that made the sign!). so use your brain, quit your bitching, and do the math. this is true with anything people: if you have a question, ASK someone who knows!
Okay, it's Tuesday night, where's my confirmation e-mail by Pallando Blue	Oct 23rd, 2001 06:07:48 PM
[tapping foot testily, yet patient and confidently smiling...] ...It's the one right there, on the far side of that 6-liter sombrero you tossed em all into. Says "My birthday BNAT-3 ticket!" in the subject line--see it? That's the one. Anyway, yep, the Sunday previous is my... no, more left, more left! Not THAT one! Right! Put that one back! Mine's THAT one. There ya go. Okay, I'll be expecting that e-mail to arrive shortly.....
Harry Here... by HEADGEEK	Oct 23rd, 2001 06:29:08 PM
Absolutely my instant reaction to seeing the list was a giggle and the comment, "These people are fucked." You see, when I first arrived, the list was at 47. I told the people that were handling the list that after another 5 signees, there would be a very very very microscopic chance that anyone would be getting tickets... even on stand by. Now, "These people are fucked," was a reaction to the fact that this list was never meant to be turned over and continued to be signed. It was suppose to stop on that front page... In fact, it was supposed to be handed to our Wonderboy from Waco, who was first in line and be handed to the Alamo Staff folks in the morning, so they could handle the movement of the line. To anyone that stayed immediately after BADGUY took off in a hissy, they saw me sink into a bit of a depression, where I tried to come up with a better way to make the fest accessible to more people, the pros and cons of larger venues, the pros and cons of raising the ticket prices to limit attendence from that angle... All sorts of things. Ultimately, it is going to remain at the Drafthouse, and it will stay a small amount of seats. The reason, I like the intimacy of the Drafthouse... the feeling that everyone in attendance was lucky to get in, lucky to be there and happy as hell to be there. The original concept for this event was to just go with vintage films out of my collection. No brand new stuff, but that changed when I managed to get MAGNOLIA and PITCH BLACK that first year. That changed the nature of the fest... Made the fest more of an EVENT to attend, instead of something just fun to attend. After this fest, I'm going to talk at length with Tim League about what we need to do, if anything, to BNAT. I always dreamed of this as being the hardest fest in the world to get in to... and it turns out that the wish is a very difficult thing to deal with, as an event that is this exclusive, YET open to the public (to a degree) is very rare indeed. Last year I had the same feelings as tickets sold out so quickly. Thoughts of doing a second fest the following week came up, but a realization that it would have to be programmed differently than the first to maintain that element of surprise... That we would need to work twice as hard, that the Drafthouse would have to endure it twice (it is very hard on them, as marathon kitchen service, cleaning up, etc is a nightmare.) Ultimately Tim and I decided that this was going to simply be tough to get into, and that only the truly committed would gain entry. There are fests all over the world that are about ease of access, that are about having the money to attend. This fest is for the people that love movies to a point of fanaticism. People like me. I talked to Tim just a while ago, he was just getting on his plane, and is headed to Austin as you read this. At 9:30pm (Austin Time) he will be arriving at my house and he and I will begin the process of doing the Internet Requests. This will take quite some time, it seems there are thousands of them. It also seems that the number of seats he was willing to fill will indeed be 250 seats, twenty more than what was calculated the other day, so it looks like we'll be able to get tickets to some of those on standby. Stay tuned for more info later...
Will the people who turn down the raffle have their tickets give by The Tao of Joe	Oct 24th, 2001 06:57:26 AM
Hello, ToJ here, and I hope that you picked alot of names (more names than there are tickets) from your bathtub. Why? Because if for some chance, a person turns down the chance to get a ticket, another lottery contestant is given a chance. The reason why I say pick more than you need now is because you don't need to leave thousands of peices of paper in your bathtub. I mean, that would be a god awful mess, correct? Its good to hear that the rest of the papers are being recycled too, I just hope one of those papers isn't mine, much like the thousands of others who entered.
I TOO WILL BUY YOUR EXTRA BNAT TICKET. by The Tao of Joe	Oct 24th, 2001 07:06:15 AM
Socrates note may be onto something, but instead of giving *only money, I will trade you people things from my collection. I will trade my Queen Amidala episode one pepsi cardboard cut out, my own video copy of ROCKLORDS MEET THE GOBOTS, my limited edition tin boxed EVIL DEAD 2, and last, but certainly not least, a guitar of mine that horror meister Rob Zombie granted the honor of smashing and autographing. Why did I let rob Zombie smash the guitar, because when I asked him to sign it, he said "YOU GOTTA LET ME SMASH THAT PEICE OF SHIT GUITAR IF YOU WANT ME TO SIGN IT." I guess the man had a pension for destruction, but since indeed the guitar was a peice of shit, I let him have his way with it. Oddly enough, that was my first guitar I ever bought, and I had been planning on learning how to play the damn thing. Oh well. BUT IF SELL ME YOUR TICKET, YOU NOT ONLY GET A CONSIDERABLE CHUNK OF CHANGE (NAME YOUR PRICE), BUT YOU ALSO GET THE FOUR REALLY COOL TREASURES I MENTIONED ABOVE.
No merch to offer, but I TOO CAN BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF by Pallando Blue	Oct 24th, 2001 09:39:51 AM
Still have my hopes up for a legitimate draw, could be late in the count... Aw hell, make me an offer. I just want the one. And you can make some cabbage.
Harry Here regarding Email Confirmations by HEADGEEK	Oct 24th, 2001 11:42:55 AM
I have not yet heard from Tim if he has sent all of them if any yet. He had to set up the projectors at the Drafthouse last night so he could test their print of FRIDAY THE 13TH in 3D to see if it worked, sucked or ruled. And he left my house quite late to go do that, after traveling via airplanes all day. It is possible that Tim fell asleep. I know, I know... not bloody likely. Nearly impossible. But it might have happened. Don't give up hope till I post that we have confirmations. As for the suggestion above that we pick more, just as we did locally... fear not, we did. Best of luck all of you!
...And when the time comes to draw my name, by Pallando Blue	Oct 24th, 2001 11:58:09 AM
...you know, "at random" >wink< >wink
Confirmation Email!!!! by LuxLisbon	Oct 24th, 2001 12:17:21 PM
I got my confirmation email at 10:50am eastern time and I COULDN'T BE MORE FUCKING EXCITED!! Luxoxoxoxoxox
...Oh yeah by LuxLisbon	Oct 24th, 2001 12:19:49 PM
And about that confirmation email...I live in Chicago....so if anyone else lives in Chicago and is going, email me, because I'm trying to figure out how to get down there. Thanks! Lux HeavnlyCreature@Hotmail.com
Golden Ticket by Captain Fantasy	Oct 24th, 2001 01:36:30 PM
Seriously Harry, next year to avoid all this confusion you should just put all the tickets in the wrappers of some sort of chocolate or other junk food treat and sell them around the world. Hmmmm... what would a Knowles bar taste like... only the NY Kitten knows for sure. Nooch!
MORE SWAG TO TAO OF JOES OFFER! by The Tao of Joe	Oct 24th, 2001 02:21:36 PM
Hello, it is I, ToJ, again. I just realized that many people who would want a ticket to BNAT, might also like comic books. Well, in addition to the already super cool stuff I offered you above, I am willing to part with my own copy of the JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA PILOT that CBS made in 97. For those of you who do not know what this is, well CBS thought that due to the somewhat successful Lois and Clark series on ABC, they would make their own little show based on a DC comics property. What did they pick? THE JLA. Did they screw it up worse than Lois and Clark? No, its actually weirder. The basic premise is to set the JLA in a show that combined elements of Friends, and The Real World. Aparently the league share a town house together, so when they are not using their powers to fight some criminal named THE WEATHER MAN (I will give you one guess what his powers are.), they use their powers for everyday household chores. The Flash for instance cleans the whole house in five seconds, and the Atom shrinks so he can walk inside of a television, and fix it so the League can watch Touched by an Angel (I SHIT YOU NOT). There are also Vignettes, where the heroes talk about each other, a la the real world. So, if you have a ticket you cannot use, Sell it to me, and I will not only give you good money, but I will give you my JLA VIDEO, MY Amidala cut out, my rob zombie guitar, my Rock Lords meet the gobots video, and my EVIL DEAD TWO LIMITED EDITION TIN BOX SET!!!! Come on, I know you wanna!
Thanks Harry and Tim - see you at the ButtCon! by cookiepuss	Oct 24th, 2001 03:06:27 PM
Received my winning confirmation at 10:59 LA time.
No Ticket In Chicago by Gregzero	Oct 24th, 2001 04:13:22 PM
Well, year two and screwed. No ticket by 3pm probably means no ticket at all. On the off chance someone near Chicago is interested: I would be willing to trade a ride for a ticket. Email me! GregZero@aintitcool.com
THANK GOD FOR GIRLFRIENDS! by The Tao of Joe	Oct 24th, 2001 05:13:39 PM
Guys, I must tell you my crazy story. Its too cool. I was really bummed out, because I, like the rest of you poor bastards, had not won a ticket. I layed on my couch for a while, sulking like a baby, and then decided to give my girlfriend a call. When I called her up, the first thing she tells me is, "Congratulations". And I am like, what the heck? and then she tells me she won a BUTT NUMB A THON TICKET!!!!! Apparently, being the coolest queen of a girlfriend ever (Luv ya K.), she thought it best to enter the contest too, I mean I didn't even ask her to. Well she won, and now I am going to the butt numb a thon!!!! Holy crap man. I cant believe it, even as I write this. Man, I am just buzzing. I honestly feel like singing the POWER OF LOVE by celine dion. HA. btw, to let you guys know something they didn't tell you before, apparently, you can *not scalp these tickets. So everyone, including myself, who made desperate offers of money and other such rewards were just wasting their time. If you do get caught scalping, you are then "BUTT BANNED" for life, meaning you cannot walk inside the door of the alamo draft house for a butt numb a thon this year, or any year I guess. Just thought I would get it out to you, so you dont end up going to austin being Blacklisted and SOL, because they also wont refund your money either. WHEN A MAAAYAAAN LOVES A WOOOOMAN, HE CAN GO SEE HARRY KNOWLES, AND MAYBE TRY TO STEAL A PEICE OF HIS BIRTHDAY CAYAKE!!HAHAHAHA
Nevermind! by Pallando Blue	Oct 24th, 2001 05:49:35 PM
All offers rescinded! And it ain't outta fear of bein butt-banned! Just got home, checked the privvy addy (which I always end up hinkin' up good somehow when I check it remote) and YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW! Now, Austinites, who recommend a good, cheap place to stay Friday night?
The best place to stay in Austin is... by 433	Oct 24th, 2001 11:49:00 PM
The Austin Motel. A lot of the BNaT attendees stayed there. It's a kickass place! http://www.austinmotel.com
Money for Tickets by Sergeant Paine	Oct 25th, 2001 12:52:47 AM
I will pay big bucks to attend this shindig. If you have an extra ticket, or simply can't go, e-mail me at austinp678@yahoo.com. I've got money, and I'm willing to spend it.
No no, the best place to stay is... by Captain Fantasy	Oct 25th, 2001 12:54:13 AM
A little place called the "Rio" hotel off of I-35 and close to the 290 exit. I've had friends stay there and they've told me it was the most interesting place they've ever stayed. Real cheap too... they even rent by the hour... not sure about that one.. who knows. Anyway, you should check it out, and it's only 10 minutes away from the Drafthouse.
A damn nice place to stay... by spitboy	Oct 25th, 2001 03:06:38 PM
...if you can afford it: The San Jose on South Congress. Right next door to the Austin Motel, it's about a 15-20 minute walk from the Alamo Drafthouse and a 5 minute bus-ride. One of the buslines you could take is free, even. More info available at: www.sanjosehotel.com and www.capmetro.org (the Orange Dillo is the free bus, the #1 is the $.5 ride.)
Photos and Place by Flash_Ah_Ahhh	Oct 25th, 2001 05:56:02 PM
I've got pictures of the line at http://photos.yahoo.com/samjon es (look in the folder called 'buttstock'. I have descriptions but I'm terrible with names. I've got a place about two miles from the Drafthouse. If someone wants a place to stay and doesn't mind a sagging davenport or the floor (but a good connection for writing home), send me mail at samjones@io.com
Harry Here: With an Asshole Attempting To BlackMail Me For Tick by HEADGEEK	Oct 26th, 2001 09:44:15 PM
Harry here, and I've been privvy to some strange shit online in the past, but someone trying to blackmail me into getting tickets to my own Birthday Party on the theory that only women were chosen in the Online portion of tickets? Here's the email I got: "Here's the scoop, we've done a little digging around Harry, and have found that there has been an abnormally large percentage of women who have won the online "random" ticket draw. You and I both know your reputation as it stands, one word of this and it will only be worse. You rigged the draw, and that will piss off alot of the losers even if you do deny it. All we want to keep quiet is two butt numb tickets. I expect to hear back from you by Sunday 3:00pm central time. If I do not, then the talkbacks will be aflame and your 30th bday will be your last. Probably not to that extreme, but I wouldn't count on enjoying it as much as you could without your entire audience hating you for it. Late. Soc" as written by areyouslider@hotmail.com. Now if that isn't one of the most pathetic, sad and unfortunate souls that I've ever seen... I don't know what to think. So I wrote him back with the following: "Soc, I don't know what you're talking about. Fact is there were 51 winners on the online ticket draw. Around 60% were women with a date, 40% were two males (best friends or lovers, I can't tell). There was no rigging and there are no other tickets available period. Interesting conspiracy theory but incredibly flawed. The final division of Male - Female at BNAT is going to be about 65% Male, 35% Female. Which is a higher degree of ladies but in the past, but not an inordinate amount, and definately not worthy of supporting a conspiracy theory. H"......... What a weird friggin world. Pretty fucking pathetic. Figured you'd want to hear it here first!
Okay Normally I refrain from talkbacks but i have to say WTF? by Ravvy	Oct 27th, 2001 03:07:26 AM
Honestly does anyone really think Harry's reputation would be harmed if he had filled HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY with more FEMALE FILM GEEKS as opposed to a room full of male film geeks. COME ON It's HIS BIRTHDAY hell i'd rig it if it was my birthday but thats just me. Anyways onto more important things is there an updated list as to Harry's 16mm and DVD collection for us people that are going to bnat that might want to buy a present or something hehe
Harry I think he may be telling the truth by egamirorrimeht	Oct 27th, 2001 01:10:24 PM
Harry- I've talked to about 13 people who won in my search to buy Buttnumbathon tix and every one of them has been a girl. I didn't really think about it, though, until I saw this post. I never really buy into conspiracy theories, and now I'm starting to. If what soc said is true, and I think it is looks like it, then that is really sad on your part. It is just not cool to hold a drawing that looks like anyone can go, when, in fact you are being selective. In other words you want to have your cake and eat it too. Why would you do something like this to us, Harry? I was really looking forward to going, meeting you, seeing your favorite movies and also seeing the exclusive ones that you have access to with your connections. I knew it was a long shot to win, as just about everyone wanted to go, but now I've lost a lot of respect for you for shattering those wild dreams and hopes of mine in an effort to get sex. Thanks alot, Harry.
Let me see... by Huneybee	Oct 27th, 2001 03:15:12 PM
Harry would rather surround himself with girls for his birthday than a bunch of guys...If he had a stripper, would y'all expect him to hire a male one just to prove his impartiality?____I just think it's funny that someone tried to blackmail him... Hey, Harry! Yoo-hooo... I'll be in the middle of a move to the east coast and will actually be in the area on BNAT day... Can I have a ticket??? Pretty please?? If ya doan send me a damn ticket, I'm gonna tell everyone about the time... ;)
Harry here by HEADGEEK	Oct 27th, 2001 05:30:57 PM
you've found 13 girls, what about 8 guys from the Minneapolis area or the 6 guys from Georgia, or the two guys from Sleepy Hollow, New York... or brothers from Seattle or the 4 fellas from Los Angeles and the guy from New Jersey. Just cuz you haven't bumped into them doesn't mean they weren't chosen. And Honeybee, I would love nothing more than to have you come, alas no mo tickets. P.S. Don't need to stack the deck for gals in my favor... The ones I care most about are on my personal invite list. However, all these theories are making me think.... Perhaps the fairest way to handle this is to just invite girls each year... They seem to be grateful and don't post bitching talk backs like it seems so many guys like to do. So let's see... 45 AICN guys.... 205 Geek women... I like that idea... BNAT 4 is gonna rule!
#40 in line by spielbergISsatan	Oct 27th, 2001 08:26:22 PM
all bitching and moaning from people unfortunate enogh not to have tickets aside....what aboutthe movies? top on my bnat3 wish list is house of 1000 corpses, but really i'm up for anything.hope harry has one hell of a birthday.
People who didn't get tickets in the lottery and bitch that by Nordling	Oct 28th, 2001 07:27:17 AM
or, if you don't like that...I'm going to BNAT3, and you're not. Pathetic little fucks. See, you've made me stoop to the level of profanity. Don't let me catch you on the street, wait, it wouldn't matter if I caught you on the street, you baby ass whiner. I'd probably end up taking your wallet, with that lameass picture of you standing next to that Klingon at Comicon, with a shiteating grin on your face as you have finally managed to collect ALL the Star Trek V bottle caps or some shit. Losers, the lot of ya. Now for the lot of you who didn't get tickets and didn't bitch about it, who understand basic math and realize that no way does 1000 fit into 250, sorry, and I really hope you mke it next year. I'm tired of people shitting on a frigging BIRTHDAY PARTY that they didn't get tickets to. As for the guy trying to blackmail Harry, the Anal Dildo Police are coming, and they're all out of lube. I hope they don't even spit on it before they shove it up your ass. Hostile? You bet I am. You're fucking with a friend of mine. I bet you were the sort of guy who didn't meet the bully at the flagpole, no, you snitched, you worm-weasel. Well, when I'm done, that flagpole's gonna be halfway up your ass. Just clarifying. Harry, my brotha, see you in December.
Good ol' Soc by Nordling	Oct 28th, 2001 03:18:59 PM
Seems that after my rant, Soc felt the need to personally threaten me over e-mail. Here's his letter... "Glad to see you have so much confidence in yourself, at least enough to challenge someone you've never met. I feel like being the first, the first talkbacker ever to take up a challenge on the talkbacks. I love you types that hide behind your screen names and shout threats (typically physical) across the world wide web. You sound like a tough guy, I look forward to finding out. I'll save your email address so I can get in contact with you right before the BNAT. I live in the Austin area so it won't be a huge hassle for me to go down there. We'll make plans on where to meet later. Nice talking to you, see you in December. Soc" Now, Soc, I'm not interested in fighting you. Rather, I think I'll get the whole BNAT3 attendance to take it out of your ass. See, my fellow BNATers are already my friends. And personally, you're not worthy of a one on one with me. Besides, I've got nothing to prove. I've already got a ticket, you see. Unlike you, who was stupid enough to try to blackmail Harry for tickets. You say you live in the Austin area. You could have gotten in line like the rest of us. But no. That's okay. You don't deserve to be there. And if you do come, I'll be inside, with my friends. Sorry you couldn't be in there, but hey, shit happens. Now go clean your room like your mom told you to.
BTW, Soc's e-mail is by Nordling	Oct 28th, 2001 03:27:42 PM
areyouslider@hotmail.com if you are interested.
HARRY, where are you on the stand-by ticket list? by Soze	Oct 28th, 2001 04:20:38 PM
I want to know if there's any chance of me getting tickets, but I don't know how far back you've gotten on the stand-by list. Thanks.
TOO FUNNY! Man, I'm just relieved to hear it won't be a by Pallando Blue	Oct 29th, 2001 05:18:02 PM
...Even if they all do come with dates -- a party's a party. Whew! *** Thanks to the tipster's here, already reserved a room at The Austin Motel for the night of the 7th--and the 7th only!--and for a damn good rate, too. Still have to book a flight, though; hell, still have to get the 7th off of work. (a "sick" day? I'll be back in on Monday, regardless... >cough< >hack< hmm...) Anyway, depending when my flight hits Texas, I'm guessing there'll be some time to kill on a Friday night in Austin. A solid night's rest pre-BNAT, with no hangover, is crucial, natch, but I don't plan on reading in my room all night. As the time gets closer some of us BNATers, especially us out-of-towners in our groups of one or two, oughta make some plans.
TOO FUNNY! Man, I'm just relieved to hear it won't be a by Pallando Blue	Oct 29th, 2001 05:19:31 PM
...Even if they all do come with dates -- a party's a party. Whew! *** Thanks to the tipster's here, already reserved a room at The Austin Motel for the night of the 7th--and the 7th only!--and for a damn good rate, too. Still have to book a flight, though; hell, still have to get the 7th off of work. (a "sick" day? I'll be back in on Monday, regardless... >cough< >hack< hmm...) Anyway, depending when my flight hits Texas, I'm guessing there'll be some time to kill on a Friday night in Austin. A solid night's rest pre-BNAT, with no hangover, is crucial, natch, but I don't plan on reading in my room all night. As the time gets closer some of us BNATers, especially us out-of-towners in our groups of one or two, oughta make some plans.
Seating Assignments by graelent	Oct 30th, 2001 10:35:48 AM
Anyone know when the whole seating arrangment thing is happening?
Standby Tickets by SchattenJager	Oct 30th, 2001 11:17:01 PM
Just FYI for everyone, I am #1 on the list for standby tickets, a friend of mine is #2 and neither one of us have had any communication from Harry or Tim on whether or not we are getting tickets. So...
Rides for Tickets... by Gregzero	Nov 1st, 2001 11:59:24 AM
Once more I implore you: If you live between Chicago and Austin (or near Chicago, like, within 100 miles), are in desperate need of a ride, happen to have an extra BNAT ticket, and would like a free ride to Austin, I'll most definitely swap ya. A meal or two will be served on the flight. Free sodas every 200 miles! Nice 1997 Honda. I need a miracle! Email me: GregZero@aintitcool.com
BNAT-3 by MagiCaspar	Nov 19th, 2001 11:36:56 PM
It's close...............
The Second Line? by Ravvy	Nov 21st, 2001 09:01:35 PM
So whens the line to get into the drafthouse starting?
Oh Geez Harry! by aardvark-MN	Nov 28th, 2001 05:41:02 PM
If you have something worse than last year's Ultra Vixens flick, I'm going to bring a big rubber mallet to whack myself with. Much safer than watching the screen.

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