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Doc Poison checks out OUTLANDER & so should you!

Hey folks, Harry here... This internet is a strange thing and AICN is even more weird. Doc Poison below is someone that I've never not known. He used to be a kid that would mow our yard and bag comic books for trade with my dad. He was always a big brother - and he moved off into the world far away from Austin. Then I am clicking through a million emails and lo and behold... there he is. Not only that, but he's seen a really badass movie that I saw that fell through the cracks... OUTLANDER. This is the best indie film that I've seen this year. And Doc's assertion that this guy should be considered for CONAN is dead on. Howard McCain is the real deal, and this movie is like some crazed Ron Howard dabbling with Science Fiction gone perfect. But screw that, here's Doc to tell you all about it!

I got a chance to see Outlander last night in Seattle at the Science Fiction Museum, which is on the Space Needle campus. The show was hosted by Warren Etheredge of The Warren Report, a local movie site. Warren was funny and personable though I find his site kind of stuffy. Director Howard McCain was very entertaining, telling all kinds of stories about making the film, which was 16 years from first draft to the big screen. More on this later.

About the movie: it was fantastic! He took potentially humorous material and treated it with great respect. Vikings, aliens, and monsters? C'mon, that sounds like a National Lampoon or Monty Python set up. But he was able to make a straightforward, dramatic film. The movie itself has been reviewed on your site already so I will not get into a lengthy plot description here. Yes, it is definitely a retelling of the Beowulf story, and according to McCain that was his intention all along; "What if the Grendel was really an alien from outer space?"

It has a big budget studio feel to it, not at all like an independent film. The eighth century Norse setting is very convincing, in the same way you really believed you were in a different time while watching Braveheart. No, it's not as big a film as that, but it sure shares some traits. I would call it Braveheart meets Predator.

The acting was top notch, but Sophia Myles as Freya really stands out. And she holds her own in this film, she is no fair maiden needing to be rescued. Jim Caviezal as Kainen was solid, though a little stiff. And of course you can't go wrong with John Hurt or Ron Perlman. If anything, Perlman needed more screen time, he only had a dozen or so lines.

The monster effects were outstanding. Again, it looks like a big budget studio movie, though I wish the monster had more screen time. The flashbacks telling Kainen's back story were very well done, the alien worlds totally convincing.

There were a couple of things that broke the spell of believability, but they were very small. There was an underwater scene where Kainen seemed to hold his breath for 10 minutes or more. Another scene was one of those "one person holding a huge amount of weight by one arm" kind of things, like Ripley in Aliens as she's holding onto the ladder while the queen aliens hangs suspended from her leg. And in another scene we see a sword being made in what appears to be a couple of hours. Swords take weeks or months to make. But most of these hiccups were due to the forced running time limit insisted upon by that dick weasel, Harvey Weinstein.

The post-movie interview was very interesting. Seems that it took 16 years to make this film, meaning it was written in advance of 13th Warrrior or that 3-D Beowulf, so the "criticism" that it is just "copying" these movies is totally off base. But it has bio luminescent monsters, so at least it got that on screen before Avatar does.

As mentioned before, Harvey Weinstein insisted on a certain arbitrary running time, and a lot of good stuff got cut to make it fit. (A few spoilers ahead) When the monster is finally killed, they were not allowed the 15 seconds to show that it was really, really dead, not "gonna come back in the next scene" semi-dead. Several gory deaths were cut, and an alien birth scene was also shortened. And, of all things, they were forced to scroll the credits at a faster rate than industry standard.

Seems that Weinstein decided he did not want to spend any money on marketing this film, and since he only had $2 million dollars in it (out of a total of $30 raised from other sources), he figured he could make more money by skipping all marketing and going direct to DVD. So basically he took McCain's life long dream and crushed it, just to make a few bucks. Typical Hollywood producer asshole, I know. Still it was sad to see how much love and attention was clearly put into this project only to hear that it is unlikely to be shown on the big screen for very long, if at all. As you have noticed, this film is in super limited release, and in most places it only showed for one week. That's because one week was all Weinstein was obligated to show it to comply with the terms of his contract, and with no marketing at all. Very sad. This is an entertaining, dramatic, period film that is well worth watching on the big screen. But get it on DVD if that's your only option.

Lots of other stuff was discussed in the post-show chat session, but the most important was about the Conan film he is now writing. According to McCain, Brett Ratner is NOT confirmed as the director. Hurrah! Seems that Ratner is being pursued by two studios to direct two different films: Conan or Rush Hour 4. He can do one but not both, and has yet to commit to either one. Obviously, he would be better suited to Rush Hour 4. So there is still hope that Conan will get a real director who actually cares about the source material.

In fact, Howard McCain would be an excellent choice. One thing I noticed about Outlander is that it felt very much like a Robert E. Howard story. It had a gritty, warlike primitive culture, giant scary monster, brooding main character with a shady past who does not really fit into the group, great battle scenes and violent death. It could have used a few more scantily clad wenches and maybe a wizard, but other than that it is true to the flavor of the Conan stories. McCain would be an excellent choice to direct Conan- write Lionsgate and let 'em know!

I can tell you more about the post-show talk if you are interested. If you use this call me "Doc Poison".

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Pain or Poison?
by Aloy
Feb 18th, 2009
01:06:18 PM
whats up?
by bilbo78
Feb 18th, 2009
01:11:12 PM
Laughable
by Bishop6
Feb 18th, 2009
01:17:48 PM
Amost all Sci-Fi is
by Diagnostic
Feb 18th, 2009
01:19:30 PM
Oh also..
by Bishop6
Feb 18th, 2009
01:19:31 PM
By "cut
by scrivener
Feb 18th, 2009
01:20:14 PM
"outlander" and "Taken" get recut for no good reason?
by MGTHEDJ
Feb 18th, 2009
01:20:41 PM
By "cut" do you mean "cut out" or "never filmed"?
by scrivener
Feb 18th, 2009
01:22:16 PM
Saw this ages ago and it's GREAT!
by CeejayNightwing
Feb 18th, 2009
01:40:52 PM
this was good
by MacTard420
Feb 18th, 2009
01:48:05 PM
Fantastic Movie
by Rebeck2
Feb 18th, 2009
02:02:47 PM
Wienstein is a douche bag.
by Yoda's Ball Sack
Feb 18th, 2009
02:07:42 PM
But Harry...
by Rebeck2
Feb 18th, 2009
02:07:52 PM
Predator
by the new transported man
Feb 18th, 2009
02:14:52 PM
Doc Poison, you incredible FUCKTARD
by Bill Brasky
Feb 18th, 2009
02:29:02 PM
Predator v. Christ
by Victor Creed
Feb 18th, 2009
02:30:26 PM
Are you people serious? This sucked. SPOILER
by StrokerX
Feb 18th, 2009
02:55:11 PM
And the whole
by Bishop6
Feb 18th, 2009
02:57:49 PM
It's not much chop...
by quantize
Feb 18th, 2009
03:16:15 PM
Harry - “A Crazed Ron Howard Meets…”
by Vic Twenty
Feb 18th, 2009
03:29:09 PM
I've seen Outlander
by vadakinX
Feb 18th, 2009
03:39:01 PM
Also the Sword
by Series7
Feb 18th, 2009
03:49:30 PM
It beats 10 times the Keanu Reeves "Earth stood still shit fest"
by lostbat
Feb 18th, 2009
03:50:13 PM
Rebeck2
by Series7
Feb 18th, 2009
03:55:16 PM
2nd half was pretty good...
by joergn
Feb 18th, 2009
03:59:17 PM
OUTLANDER WAS FUCKING GARBAGE
by Bass Bastardson
Feb 18th, 2009
04:06:03 PM
Oh, on top of all that...
by Bass Bastardson
Feb 18th, 2009
04:07:16 PM
From the Trailers it Looked Awsome
by medicinaluser
Feb 18th, 2009
04:10:21 PM
HEY HARRY!! you're a fucking disgrace
by the milf lover
Feb 18th, 2009
04:12:37 PM
MilfLover is right, Harry- STEP THE FUCK UP
by D.Vader
Feb 18th, 2009
04:20:21 PM
Space Needle Campus???
by cineninja
Feb 18th, 2009
04:27:42 PM
weinstein tried to bury the movie because JIM CAV worked with me
by ironic_name
Feb 18th, 2009
04:41:45 PM
because JIM CAV worked with mel gibson
by ironic_name
Feb 18th, 2009
04:56:53 PM
The Science Fiction Museum here in
by Dingbatty
Feb 18th, 2009
04:58:32 PM
Anyone saying that this movie is only SCI FI movie of the week
by Series7
Feb 18th, 2009
05:01:20 PM
It Didn't Even Play Here in New York?!
by cowboyone
Feb 18th, 2009
05:22:10 PM
This movie was o.k. at best...
by Sappers Forward
Feb 18th, 2009
05:35:13 PM
whiny bitches ! Outlander gets a thumbs up
by Mr_X
Feb 18th, 2009
07:22:18 PM
AMEN MILF LOVER!!
by lostbat
Feb 18th, 2009
08:00:23 PM
Good Idea, shit presentation
by The Red
Feb 18th, 2009
08:00:43 PM
SEEN THIS AGES AGO!
by Sovikos
Feb 18th, 2009
09:13:01 PM
crappy director messed up another Viking film
by pipergates
Feb 18th, 2009
10:05:27 PM
Pipergates, You're An Idiot
by Rebeck2
Feb 18th, 2009
10:17:03 PM
Whiney Bitches Is Right
by Rebeck2
Feb 18th, 2009
10:23:11 PM
rebeck, ratner is too good for you
by pipergates
Feb 18th, 2009
11:02:52 PM
I'm sorry but Outlander
by the_shogun_gunslinger
Feb 18th, 2009
11:43:54 PM
I saw it in a packed house...
by My friends call me Killjoy
Feb 19th, 2009
12:02:47 AM
My friends call me Killjoy
by Series7
Feb 19th, 2009
01:28:12 AM
Rebeck2
by quantize
Feb 19th, 2009
05:00:50 AM
the love for this movie is BIZARRE
by quantize
Feb 19th, 2009
05:03:50 AM
I really wanted to see this in theaters
by SoylentMean
Feb 19th, 2009
08:25:07 AM
Iraqi bootleg for the win....
by onemanarmy
Feb 19th, 2009
09:15:10 AM
Maybe they were old gay people?
by Wee Willie
Feb 19th, 2009
09:53:45 AM
I saw this too, annnnd...
by fathergeek
Feb 19th, 2009
11:22:52 AM
To Redfist... concerning seniors at gay films...
by fathergeek
Feb 19th, 2009
12:02:39 PM
All Of
by Rebeck2
Feb 19th, 2009
12:05:16 PM
All Of The Above
by Rebeck2
Feb 19th, 2009
12:06:04 PM
vikings and aliens =frazetta style airbrush vans. cool.
by ironic_name
Feb 19th, 2009
01:23:58 PM
and soon, cowboys and aliens will be made.
by ironic_name
Feb 19th, 2009
01:24:27 PM
ignore rebeck2
by dahveed1972
Feb 19th, 2009
01:53:26 PM
fathergeek - "im staright, seriously, i mean it!"
by JimmyJoe RedSky
Feb 19th, 2009
03:56:59 PM
"straight" - damn typos
by JimmyJoe RedSky
Feb 19th, 2009
03:57:27 PM
"outlander" & "mutant chronicles"...
by JimmyJoe RedSky
Feb 19th, 2009
03:59:47 PM
Seemed far to LONG to me
by Knugen
Feb 19th, 2009
06:35:44 PM
saw Brokeback 3 times
by Series7
Feb 19th, 2009
06:41:35 PM
Aslo where the fuck did you live
by Series7
Feb 19th, 2009
06:44:58 PM
this movie sucks and rips off a bunch of better movies
by compn
Feb 19th, 2009
08:19:31 PM
actually, i forgot about one part
by compn
Feb 19th, 2009
08:40:01 PM
i think..
by Coolhand_luke
Feb 19th, 2009
09:15:28 PM
and..
by Coolhand_luke
Feb 19th, 2009
09:18:36 PM
TL:DR
by onemanarmy
Feb 19th, 2009
11:25:02 PM

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