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IndustryKiller! Has Our First Look At Paul Haggis’s Follow-Up To CRASH! Test Screening Of IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
I hate CRASH. I really do.
And I’m not much for the rest of what Haggis has done so far, either. So I’m not the guy you should listen to when it comes to sizing up his first film as a director since he won the Oscar for CRASH. IndustryKiller!, on the other hand, has had a chance to see an early screening of the movie, and here’s what he had to say:
Paul Haggis, a man of many talents. Co-writer of maybe the best Bond film of all time, yet also one of the most undeserving best picture winners of all time. Oh yes Paul you are nothing if not a paradox. And thus is how I feel about the man. Casino Royale was one of my favorite films of last year, I'm one of the few who still like Mystic River even after repeated viewing, and while Million Dollar Baby certainly didn't deserve best picture it's still a strong actors showcase intimately directed by Eastwood.
Then there's Crash. When Crash won best picture it took every ounce of my strength not to throw my television out the window. To make matter worse to this day I still hear philistines talk about what a wonderful examination of racism it was. For the record it isn't. But that is where I was on the Paul Haggis topic when I walked into the very first screening of his new film "In the Valley of Elah" tonight at the Arclight in LA, presided over by none other than the man himself. I'm going to give a slight spoiler warning now for those who want to go in blind.
The film starts out with Tommy Lee Jones getting the call that his son has gone awol from the military after a tour in Iraq. being an ex military man himself, he takes the liberty of driving to some town specified as a "two day drive" to look himself in and around the military base. What follows is a hodgepodge of scenes of Jones showing up places and asking questions until he finds out his son is actually dead and it turns into a Haggified version of those Ashley Judd crime thrillers but with Charlize Theron instead.
First of all we can lay it to rest right here, Haggis love to preach. He likes to start out pretending he's not preaching but by the end of the film he's snuck up on his soap box and is yelling right in your ear hole. First racism, now the Iraq war. Which is bad in case you didn't notice. Real bad. So bad in fact that in the world of this film every soldier we encounter who has been there is a murdering, war crime commiting bastard who absolutely cannot adjust to normal life once he is back in the states without resorting to violence. And I know this film is based on an actual event, but the way it's portrayed it seems, not like a small cache of soldiers, but the American military at large. To drive it home there are little vignettes of films Jones's son took on his cell phone in Iraq that pop up every now and again that mostly show American soldiers killing, torturing, and disrespecting the dead. Hell just for good measure we even get a random side event where a previously unseen soldier has killed his wife for no good reason. You know just in case you missed that one on CNN.
Thus is the problem with Mr. Paul Haggis. He presents us the societal problem in an appropriately emotional package and then presents the solution as.....oh wait, he doesn't present a solution. Ever. Or even attempts one for that matter. And that problem I mentioned before, is REALLY obvious. We have racism in our society? Thanks Paul. The Iraq War is bad for the soldiers? Ya don't say! I'm waiting for his next masterpiece "The Sky is Blue". What do we do about these problems? Don't ask Paul he's just here to make movies about 'em. There is literally no insight into the situation to be gleaned from this script. And worse, he makes a bad crime thriller out of it. And just in case it isn't Hollywood enough for you he throws in a cute female cop played by Charlize Theron who, doggonit, just doesn't get the respect she deserves from her cheauvinist male counterparts. (Whoa there's ANOTHER societal problem!) Why she joins Jone's on his quest and starts openly bringing him to crime scenes and to question witnesses while none of the other cops seem to care is beyond me.
If there is one thing Crash had going for it it's excellent performances. But with the exception of Tommy Lee Jones Haggis strands his actors. Jones is great though, the best moments of the film are when he says nothing and just let's the weight of it all hang for a moment on his leathered face. Theron is wasted in a cliche role that is more or less completely unnecessary despite its size. The same goes for Jason Patric, which is a crime given his talent and that he only does a film once every few years.
Moreover Haggis is still trying to be everything to everyone. (at least Crash had equal opportunity racism) Hell he even throws a precocious kid scene somewhere in there just in case the blatant disrespecting of Iraq troops turned you off. So if you aren't a fan of his particular brand of applesauce then this is only going to sour the pot more. To cap it all off as I was walking out of the theater some guy was saying it was "the first Oscar calibur movie of 2007", then again this guy was also saying it to random strangers and seemed vaguely crazy. Which I thought made total sense.
IndustryKiller! out.
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Reader Talkback
First! by Derrida77 | Jun 6th, 2007 08:02:40 AM | I was first once... by Jakes Nel | Jun 6th, 2007 08:04:00 AM | Fuck Paul Haggis by PotSmokinAlien | Jun 6th, 2007 08:04:30 AM | The greatest script doctor the
world has ever seen? by Derrida77 | Jun 6th, 2007 08:08:43 AM | Thank heavens it's not about
Elah Roth. by Stalin vs Predator | Jun 6th, 2007 08:09:53 AM | Re: Haggis script doctoring by PacmanFever | Jun 6th, 2007 08:19:46 AM | Dont dis' The Sting!! by Col. Tigh-Fighter | Jun 6th, 2007 08:24:56 AM | IndustryKiller!... by -guyinthebackrow | Jun 6th, 2007 08:25:20 AM | No problems with Haggis by the beef | Jun 6th, 2007 08:29:37 AM | Mystic River? by Jakes Nel | Jun 6th, 2007 08:37:35 AM | Most people don't know this
about Haggis but by Borgnine JR | Jun 6th, 2007 08:37:58 AM | Sandra Bullock quits the army
after bruising her bum! by Spandau Belly | Jun 6th, 2007 08:38:00 AM | and where was the great
writing in Casino Royale? by Spandau Belly | Jun 6th, 2007 08:40:08 AM | Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI | Jun 6th, 2007 08:41:14 AM | What? No Eli Roth any more? by Motoko Kusanagi | Jun 6th, 2007 08:44:12 AM | Dear Mr. Haggis: Stop it.
Please. by d3vilsign | Jun 6th, 2007 08:52:07 AM | Yeah, Mystic River is the best
film Haggis never wrote by mr.underwater | Jun 6th, 2007 08:52:23 AM | Remember that face Jack
Nicholson made? by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 6th, 2007 08:59:44 AM | I'll never understand the
Crash hate. by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 09:07:00 AM | Paul Haggis=the best director
ever by Magnum Opus | Jun 6th, 2007 09:07:07 AM | I bet if Eli Roth directed
this movie by CaptainGilgore | Jun 6th, 2007 09:12:13 AM | Moriarty by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 09:12:49 AM | The worst part about Crash by Magnum Opus | Jun 6th, 2007 09:13:22 AM | forget paul ws. anderson;
haggis is the hack. by JacksonsPole | Jun 6th, 2007 09:15:32 AM | Crash is the 2nd best R-Rated
AfterSchoolSpecial . . . by Nice Marmot | Jun 6th, 2007 09:28:28 AM | Two things about Crash by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 6th, 2007 09:29:52 AM | CRASH AND BURN by i kick tits | Jun 6th, 2007 09:30:11 AM | Franklin T Marmoset by Nice Marmot | Jun 6th, 2007 09:48:36 AM | well... by CaptainGilgore | Jun 6th, 2007 09:50:49 AM | Marmoset by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 09:52:44 AM | haggis if a far out kook
liberal by ZO | Jun 6th, 2007 09:54:14 AM | Who dares insult "The
Sting"...! by Stalin vs Predator | Jun 6th, 2007 09:54:16 AM | I Liked Crash by MorpheusTheSandman | Jun 6th, 2007 09:59:56 AM | It's a weird thing by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 6th, 2007 10:01:19 AM | My bad on Mystic River by IndustryKiller! | Jun 6th, 2007 10:02:13 AM | I hate Haggis, but putting
"solutions" in his movies by Dannychico | Jun 6th, 2007 10:13:22 AM | He did his best work on FACTS
OF LIFE by NormanFell | Jun 6th, 2007 10:13:31 AM | Due South by Huelya | Jun 6th, 2007 10:14:36 AM | How I came to peace with
Haggis' Crash Oscar Win by jgmamma0 | Jun 6th, 2007 10:17:25 AM | I'm sure if Crash had Giant
Fighting Robots and by lost.rules | Jun 6th, 2007 10:31:05 AM | My God I have never seen so by Angry Golfer | Jun 6th, 2007 10:40:26 AM | Sounds like The Hunted + by Nezzer6364 | Jun 6th, 2007 10:56:26 AM | Paul Haggis: The Most
Dishonest Screenwriter by DirkBelig | Jun 6th, 2007 11:05:50 AM | Captain Gilgore... by lazynogoodnic | Jun 6th, 2007 11:08:53 AM | What I learned from Crash. by Bubba Gillman | Jun 6th, 2007 11:31:37 AM | Not Deserving by animejoe | Jun 6th, 2007 11:38:56 AM | This title goes up there with
"Welcome to Whoop Whoop" by CopOnTheEdge | Jun 6th, 2007 11:40:28 AM | My Like/Despise Attitude
towards Paul Haggis by jgmamma0 | Jun 6th, 2007 11:45:34 AM | Did Haggis write the scene
where Bond zaps his heart by CopOnTheEdge | Jun 6th, 2007 11:49:40 AM | DirkBelig by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 11:50:48 AM | I saw all of the other Best
Pic nominees by Mattyboy122 | Jun 6th, 2007 12:00:08 PM | It Is So Fashionable To Hate
On Crash by topaz4206 | Jun 6th, 2007 12:00:14 PM | I like arguments about
Crash... by tonagan | Jun 6th, 2007 12:03:59 PM | And Crash is not a bad song... by tonagan | Jun 6th, 2007 12:04:37 PM | The Ego Has Landed... by Mako | Jun 6th, 2007 12:05:24 PM | Ye Folk Miss the Point by Guy Gaduois | Jun 6th, 2007 12:08:44 PM | Whatever.... by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 12:09:49 PM | Moriarty by timmer33 | Jun 6th, 2007 12:12:40 PM | topaz4206 by lazynogoodnic | Jun 6th, 2007 12:13:31 PM | CRASH-- by the toad | Jun 6th, 2007 12:14:48 PM | Oh my fucking god... by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 12:15:52 PM | In the Valley of EEGAH? by Thick McRunFast | Jun 6th, 2007 12:19:29 PM | Can we all just go back to
hating Transformers. by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 12:20:04 PM | CRASH IS BETTER THAN HOSTEL
PART 2 by TheHorror | Jun 6th, 2007 12:21:44 PM | Wait a second... by necco | Jun 6th, 2007 12:40:06 PM | No solution to these issues? by staticneuron | Jun 6th, 2007 12:50:10 PM | Fine, if not Crash then
what...? by Heckles | Jun 6th, 2007 12:51:27 PM | The problems with Crash by necco | Jun 6th, 2007 12:55:41 PM | The least deserved Osacr of
that year by Corey Atad | Jun 6th, 2007 01:12:58 PM | this movie by lopan | Jun 6th, 2007 01:25:31 PM | Any Scientologists in the
house? by VaderSabre | Jun 6th, 2007 01:27:30 PM | "a Haggified version of an
Ashley Judd crime thriller" by Det. John Kimble | Jun 6th, 2007 01:33:25 PM | Haggis also wrote FLAGS OF OUR
FATHERS screenplay by Spacesheik | Jun 6th, 2007 01:36:39 PM | Crash - Great DMB album,
Terrible movie (07) by Lando Griffin | Jun 6th, 2007 01:39:43 PM | Fuck you all motherfuckers.
Crash was a wonderful film! by Proman1984 | Jun 6th, 2007 01:45:40 PM | you're right Proman by just pillow talk | Jun 6th, 2007 01:53:55 PM | Hmmm, let's see... by Sledge Hammer | Jun 6th, 2007 01:58:20 PM | Crash = Short Cuts... by gavdiggity | Jun 6th, 2007 02:01:06 PM | PwnedByStallone = Felch Monkey by DirkBelig | Jun 6th, 2007 02:02:06 PM | Umm, Paul Haggis by Mattyboy122 | Jun 6th, 2007 02:15:52 PM | Oh yeah by Mattyboy122 | Jun 6th, 2007 02:24:39 PM | I got a call inviting me to
this screening by BitterMan23 | Jun 6th, 2007 02:25:30 PM | He created 'Due South' by Geddlee | Jun 6th, 2007 02:26:37 PM | Also, the best Crash is the
Charles Band one by BitterMan23 | Jun 6th, 2007 02:32:16 PM | Laggis my Haggis by CaptainGilgore | Jun 6th, 2007 02:37:40 PM | Watch it Sledgehammer!! by BitterMan23 | Jun 6th, 2007 02:38:07 PM | Too chickenshit? by CaptainGilgore | Jun 6th, 2007 03:13:35 PM | Yeah, Mystic River was
Helgeland, not Haggis... by Sledge Hammer | Jun 6th, 2007 03:20:14 PM | Crash by DanDelion | Jun 6th, 2007 03:31:14 PM | Sledge Hammer by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 03:34:21 PM | Felch monkey? by PwnedByStallone | Jun 6th, 2007 03:35:58 PM | Wow Gilgore by Mattyboy122 | Jun 6th, 2007 03:36:28 PM | THE SKY IS BLUE and CRASH by The Real MiraJeff | Jun 6th, 2007 03:55:19 PM | Tommy Lee also kicked ass
in... by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 04:00:22 PM | Re: BringingSexyBack by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 04:03:45 PM | One more thing... by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 04:06:52 PM | Crash was just a pile of shit by BitterMan23 | Jun 6th, 2007 04:12:30 PM | No, Crash was the shit that
shit shits by CherryValance | Jun 6th, 2007 04:47:42 PM | Crash is the Emporer's New
Clothes by BadMrWonka | Jun 6th, 2007 04:49:21 PM | MiraJeff... by The Dum Guy | Jun 6th, 2007 04:51:21 PM | BadMrWonka for the win! by Mattyboy122 | Jun 6th, 2007 05:00:37 PM | Is this the Hostel 2 talkback? by BillyPilgrim | Jun 6th, 2007 05:29:57 PM | The first Oscar-Caliber movie
of the year? by ImFixingtoDie | Jun 6th, 2007 05:49:22 PM | Crash WAS kinda pretentious, by Man_of_Stool | Jun 6th, 2007 05:51:02 PM | I would like to put a small
disclaimer on this review by IndustryKiller! | Jun 6th, 2007 05:54:32 PM | Crash was garbage by Neo Zeed | Jun 6th, 2007 05:56:54 PM | whatever... by Stollentroll | Jun 6th, 2007 06:12:44 PM | Mirajeff, Mako, and the handle
"IndustryKiller!" by IndustryKiller! | Jun 6th, 2007 06:24:15 PM | Crash by VoxMillennium | Jun 6th, 2007 06:26:24 PM | Nobody mentions the music in
Crash by Chopper Sullivan | Jun 6th, 2007 06:28:47 PM | Crash ... by VoxMillennium | Jun 6th, 2007 06:35:12 PM | Idiots like Haggis ruin the
case against Iraq by ScamsAndFlams | Jun 6th, 2007 06:41:46 PM | Paul Haggis has chosen
HD-DVD....Here's why: by Pound Sand | Jun 6th, 2007 06:42:00 PM | Simplification... by Chopper Sullivan | Jun 6th, 2007 06:47:08 PM | VoxMillenium by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 07:26:23 PM | That's the whole point of the
tagline by polyh3dron | Jun 6th, 2007 07:27:19 PM | That line was terrible! by BitterMan23 | Jun 6th, 2007 07:28:46 PM | I thought the reason people
crashed there cars was... by The Dum Guy | Jun 6th, 2007 07:35:45 PM | Casino Royale reinvented Bond
for the 1980s! by Spandau Belly | Jun 6th, 2007 07:50:17 PM | and by the way... by Spandau Belly | Jun 6th, 2007 07:51:37 PM | what? No ninja action? Lame by AvengingFist | Jun 6th, 2007 08:02:16 PM | Voxmillenium and bitterman by IndustryKiller! | Jun 6th, 2007 08:07:22 PM | Best part of Crash (aside from
the end credits) by Lando Griffin | Jun 6th, 2007 08:39:13 PM | CRASH by Leafy McPlantsalot | Jun 6th, 2007 09:07:42 PM | Mr Monkey... by uVa | Jun 6th, 2007 09:27:16 PM | Crash, would you like to hear
me tell a joke? by Darth_Yupium | Jun 6th, 2007 10:54:09 PM | not only were Brokeback and
Munich 2nd and 3rd to crash by CaptainGilgore | Jun 6th, 2007 11:48:47 PM | Gilgore, you're right by BadMrWonka | Jun 6th, 2007 11:51:21 PM | Goldeneye is better than
Casino Royale by AlwaysThere | Jun 7th, 2007 12:22:49 AM | Paul Haggis rules by MissCanadaa | Jun 7th, 2007 12:37:16 AM | Bond is NOT A BAD-ASS... by CopOnTheEdge | Jun 7th, 2007 12:59:54 AM | I really don't get the Haggis
hatred by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 01:02:38 AM | Cruel Kingdom by BadMrWonka | Jun 7th, 2007 01:07:42 AM | 3-6 Mafia? by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 01:10:36 AM | re: CopOnTheEdge by The Dum Guy | Jun 7th, 2007 01:10:57 AM | I don't like Crash because it
won the Oscar... by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 01:12:55 AM | I'm a sucker for Crash-bashing by waggy | Jun 7th, 2007 01:16:56 AM | He didn't even write Walker by polyh3dron | Jun 7th, 2007 01:17:45 AM | The Deer Hunter was overrated by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 01:19:32 AM | oops by waggy | Jun 7th, 2007 01:20:55 AM | Cruel Kingdom by BadMrWonka | Jun 7th, 2007 01:53:57 AM | and I just noticed by BadMrWonka | Jun 7th, 2007 01:55:38 AM | BadMrWonka by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 01:59:12 AM | I love how stylish it's become
to hate CRASH... by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 02:01:25 AM | Are you high Miscanadaa? by thevision | Jun 7th, 2007 02:03:34 AM | Crash won because by thevision | Jun 7th, 2007 02:09:19 AM | thevision by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 02:10:18 AM | Cruel_Kingdom by animejoe | Jun 7th, 2007 02:12:42 AM | Animejoe by Cruel_Kingdom | Jun 7th, 2007 02:14:51 AM | Crash doesn't make me angry by thevision | Jun 7th, 2007 02:23:45 AM | Industry Killer really means,
"mom, send more $" by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 02:41:36 AM | Can we get a moritorium on
"boring" and "pretentious" by IndustryKiller! | Jun 7th, 2007 02:45:37 AM | Some good arguments here by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 7th, 2007 02:48:09 AM | Bow Timmy you just summed up
the whole movie! by IndustryKiller! | Jun 7th, 2007 03:04:50 AM | Calling people racist for not
liking this movie... by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 03:26:02 AM | Magnum Opus and Franklin T
Marmoset by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 03:28:54 AM | Still not convinced by VoxMillennium | Jun 7th, 2007 03:34:33 AM | Bow Timmy by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 03:38:28 AM | VoxMillennium by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 7th, 2007 03:59:30 AM | Industry Killer just summed up
how he just got owned!! by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 04:22:19 AM | Franklin T Marmoset by VoxMillennium | Jun 7th, 2007 04:58:49 AM | Haggis As Swipe? by Nigh-Unstoppable | Jun 7th, 2007 05:32:24 AM | MiraJeff by Clancy Van Lustbader | Jun 7th, 2007 08:12:30 AM | "Stylish" to hate CRASH? by FleshMachine | Jun 7th, 2007 08:31:39 AM | f this b.s. about
"manipulative" by CaptainGilgore | Jun 7th, 2007 08:36:10 AM | You can learn from Crash that by MissCanadaa | Jun 7th, 2007 09:09:41 AM | On manipulation and R Lee
Ermey by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 7th, 2007 09:10:29 AM | Crash was mediocre, but guess
what? by chains | Jun 7th, 2007 09:31:46 AM | What's with all the ridiculous
hatred against "Crash"? by Pdorwick | Jun 7th, 2007 09:50:36 AM | Jeezum crow by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 7th, 2007 10:02:05 AM | Franklin T Marmoset: It's just
your points I'm ignoring by Pdorwick | Jun 7th, 2007 10:10:08 AM | Sometimes, I argue with a
talkbacker by BitterMan23 | Jun 7th, 2007 10:30:02 AM | do you change to empathyman23
or by just pillow talk | Jun 7th, 2007 10:52:53 AM | Crash>Flags of our fathers by Out of your element | Jun 7th, 2007 11:00:03 AM | Cruel_Kingdom by animejoe | Jun 7th, 2007 11:03:49 AM | Brokeback Mountain spoke miles
more about our culture by waggy | Jun 7th, 2007 11:35:50 AM | oscar gold by Goodbar79 | Jun 7th, 2007 11:49:25 AM | Don Cheadle has chosen
HD-DVD... Here's why... by polyh3dron | Jun 7th, 2007 12:09:52 PM | My Coworker, on the 2005 best
pic noms by BitterMan23 | Jun 7th, 2007 12:28:19 PM | Franklin, love the R. Lee
Ermey image. by Frietag | Jun 7th, 2007 12:31:41 PM | BOW TIMMY'S RANT = GENIUS. by CopOnTheEdge | Jun 7th, 2007 12:35:35 PM | Genius? by BadMrWonka | Jun 7th, 2007 12:48:30 PM | CRASH WAS GREAT by zdigital | Jun 7th, 2007 12:58:07 PM | I thought Bond did have a
deceased wife by CherryValance | Jun 7th, 2007 01:01:50 PM | Franklin T, by Spandau Belly | Jun 7th, 2007 01:19:59 PM | Bad Mr Wonka ewwwwwwww by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 01:58:55 PM | Cherry Valence by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 02:02:08 PM | Let me make this as clear as I
can. by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 02:06:11 PM | brownstone by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 02:25:42 PM | Bow Timmy by just pillow talk | Jun 7th, 2007 02:32:15 PM | BOW TIMMY, BITCH. by polyh3dron | Jun 7th, 2007 02:38:29 PM | Pillow talk? Holy Lord! by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 02:41:17 PM | I don't live in LA by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 03:12:02 PM | Mr. Brownstone? by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 03:23:24 PM | Bow Timmy? by mr. brownstone | Jun 7th, 2007 03:32:41 PM | Mr Brownstone, yes... by Bow Timmy | Jun 7th, 2007 03:47:48 PM | Bow Timmy, I agree.. by polyh3dron | Jun 7th, 2007 09:23:39 PM | L. Ron Haggis. by Paul T. Ryan | Jun 7th, 2007 09:54:47 PM | Thanks for projecting,
Pdorwick by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 8th, 2007 02:19:34 AM | Hey, Spandau Belly by Franklin T Marmoset | Jun 8th, 2007 02:28:03 AM | Bow Timmy by just pillow talk | Jun 8th, 2007 06:31:12 AM |
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