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IndustryKiller! Has Our First Look At Paul Haggis’s Follow-Up To CRASH! Test Screening Of IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.

I hate CRASH. I really do.

And I’m not much for the rest of what Haggis has done so far, either. So I’m not the guy you should listen to when it comes to sizing up his first film as a director since he won the Oscar for CRASH. IndustryKiller!, on the other hand, has had a chance to see an early screening of the movie, and here’s what he had to say:

Paul Haggis, a man of many talents. Co-writer of maybe the best Bond film of all time, yet also one of the most undeserving best picture winners of all time. Oh yes Paul you are nothing if not a paradox. And thus is how I feel about the man. Casino Royale was one of my favorite films of last year, I'm one of the few who still like Mystic River even after repeated viewing, and while Million Dollar Baby certainly didn't deserve best picture it's still a strong actors showcase intimately directed by Eastwood.

Then there's Crash. When Crash won best picture it took every ounce of my strength not to throw my television out the window. To make matter worse to this day I still hear philistines talk about what a wonderful examination of racism it was. For the record it isn't. But that is where I was on the Paul Haggis topic when I walked into the very first screening of his new film "In the Valley of Elah" tonight at the Arclight in LA, presided over by none other than the man himself. I'm going to give a slight spoiler warning now for those who want to go in blind.

The film starts out with Tommy Lee Jones getting the call that his son has gone awol from the military after a tour in Iraq. being an ex military man himself, he takes the liberty of driving to some town specified as a "two day drive" to look himself in and around the military base. What follows is a hodgepodge of scenes of Jones showing up places and asking questions until he finds out his son is actually dead and it turns into a Haggified version of those Ashley Judd crime thrillers but with Charlize Theron instead.

First of all we can lay it to rest right here, Haggis love to preach. He likes to start out pretending he's not preaching but by the end of the film he's snuck up on his soap box and is yelling right in your ear hole. First racism, now the Iraq war. Which is bad in case you didn't notice. Real bad. So bad in fact that in the world of this film every soldier we encounter who has been there is a murdering, war crime commiting bastard who absolutely cannot adjust to normal life once he is back in the states without resorting to violence. And I know this film is based on an actual event, but the way it's portrayed it seems, not like a small cache of soldiers, but the American military at large. To drive it home there are little vignettes of films Jones's son took on his cell phone in Iraq that pop up every now and again that mostly show American soldiers killing, torturing, and disrespecting the dead. Hell just for good measure we even get a random side event where a previously unseen soldier has killed his wife for no good reason. You know just in case you missed that one on CNN.

Thus is the problem with Mr. Paul Haggis. He presents us the societal problem in an appropriately emotional package and then presents the solution as.....oh wait, he doesn't present a solution. Ever. Or even attempts one for that matter. And that problem I mentioned before, is REALLY obvious. We have racism in our society? Thanks Paul. The Iraq War is bad for the soldiers? Ya don't say! I'm waiting for his next masterpiece "The Sky is Blue". What do we do about these problems? Don't ask Paul he's just here to make movies about 'em. There is literally no insight into the situation to be gleaned from this script. And worse, he makes a bad crime thriller out of it. And just in case it isn't Hollywood enough for you he throws in a cute female cop played by Charlize Theron who, doggonit, just doesn't get the respect she deserves from her cheauvinist male counterparts. (Whoa there's ANOTHER societal problem!) Why she joins Jone's on his quest and starts openly bringing him to crime scenes and to question witnesses while none of the other cops seem to care is beyond me.

If there is one thing Crash had going for it it's excellent performances. But with the exception of Tommy Lee Jones Haggis strands his actors. Jones is great though, the best moments of the film are when he says nothing and just let's the weight of it all hang for a moment on his leathered face. Theron is wasted in a cliche role that is more or less completely unnecessary despite its size. The same goes for Jason Patric, which is a crime given his talent and that he only does a film once every few years.

Moreover Haggis is still trying to be everything to everyone. (at least Crash had equal opportunity racism) Hell he even throws a precocious kid scene somewhere in there just in case the blatant disrespecting of Iraq troops turned you off. So if you aren't a fan of his particular brand of applesauce then this is only going to sour the pot more. To cap it all off as I was walking out of the theater some guy was saying it was "the first Oscar calibur movie of 2007", then again this guy was also saying it to random strangers and seemed vaguely crazy. Which I thought made total sense.

IndustryKiller! out.

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First!
by Derrida77
Jun 6th, 2007
08:02:40 AM
I was first once...
by Jakes Nel
Jun 6th, 2007
08:04:00 AM
Fuck Paul Haggis
by PotSmokinAlien
Jun 6th, 2007
08:04:30 AM
The greatest script doctor the world has ever seen?
by Derrida77
Jun 6th, 2007
08:08:43 AM
Thank heavens it's not about Elah Roth.
by Stalin vs Predator
Jun 6th, 2007
08:09:53 AM
Re: Haggis script doctoring
by PacmanFever
Jun 6th, 2007
08:19:46 AM
Dont dis' The Sting!!
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jun 6th, 2007
08:24:56 AM
IndustryKiller!...
by -guyinthebackrow
Jun 6th, 2007
08:25:20 AM
No problems with Haggis
by the beef
Jun 6th, 2007
08:29:37 AM
Mystic River?
by Jakes Nel
Jun 6th, 2007
08:37:35 AM
Most people don't know this about Haggis but
by Borgnine JR
Jun 6th, 2007
08:37:58 AM
Sandra Bullock quits the army after bruising her bum!
by Spandau Belly
Jun 6th, 2007
08:38:00 AM
and where was the great writing in Casino Royale?
by Spandau Belly
Jun 6th, 2007
08:40:08 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Jun 6th, 2007
08:41:14 AM
What? No Eli Roth any more?
by Motoko Kusanagi
Jun 6th, 2007
08:44:12 AM
Dear Mr. Haggis: Stop it. Please.
by d3vilsign
Jun 6th, 2007
08:52:07 AM
Yeah, Mystic River is the best film Haggis never wrote
by mr.underwater
Jun 6th, 2007
08:52:23 AM
Remember that face Jack Nicholson made?
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 6th, 2007
08:59:44 AM
I'll never understand the Crash hate.
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
09:07:00 AM
Paul Haggis=the best director ever
by Magnum Opus
Jun 6th, 2007
09:07:07 AM
I bet if Eli Roth directed this movie
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 6th, 2007
09:12:13 AM
Moriarty
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
09:12:49 AM
The worst part about Crash
by Magnum Opus
Jun 6th, 2007
09:13:22 AM
forget paul ws. anderson; haggis is the hack.
by JacksonsPole
Jun 6th, 2007
09:15:32 AM
Crash is the 2nd best R-Rated AfterSchoolSpecial . . .
by Nice Marmot
Jun 6th, 2007
09:28:28 AM
Two things about Crash
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 6th, 2007
09:29:52 AM
CRASH AND BURN
by i kick tits
Jun 6th, 2007
09:30:11 AM
Franklin T Marmoset
by Nice Marmot
Jun 6th, 2007
09:48:36 AM
well...
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 6th, 2007
09:50:49 AM
Marmoset
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
09:52:44 AM
haggis if a far out kook liberal
by ZO
Jun 6th, 2007
09:54:14 AM
Who dares insult "The Sting"...!
by Stalin vs Predator
Jun 6th, 2007
09:54:16 AM
I Liked Crash
by MorpheusTheSandman
Jun 6th, 2007
09:59:56 AM
It's a weird thing
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 6th, 2007
10:01:19 AM
My bad on Mystic River
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 6th, 2007
10:02:13 AM
I hate Haggis, but putting "solutions" in his movies
by Dannychico
Jun 6th, 2007
10:13:22 AM
He did his best work on FACTS OF LIFE
by NormanFell
Jun 6th, 2007
10:13:31 AM
Due South
by Huelya
Jun 6th, 2007
10:14:36 AM
How I came to peace with Haggis' Crash Oscar Win
by jgmamma0
Jun 6th, 2007
10:17:25 AM
I'm sure if Crash had Giant Fighting Robots and
by lost.rules
Jun 6th, 2007
10:31:05 AM
My God I have never seen so
by Angry Golfer
Jun 6th, 2007
10:40:26 AM
Sounds like The Hunted +
by Nezzer6364
Jun 6th, 2007
10:56:26 AM
Paul Haggis: The Most Dishonest Screenwriter
by DirkBelig
Jun 6th, 2007
11:05:50 AM
Captain Gilgore...
by lazynogoodnic
Jun 6th, 2007
11:08:53 AM
What I learned from Crash.
by Bubba Gillman
Jun 6th, 2007
11:31:37 AM
Not Deserving
by animejoe
Jun 6th, 2007
11:38:56 AM
This title goes up there with "Welcome to Whoop Whoop"
by CopOnTheEdge
Jun 6th, 2007
11:40:28 AM
My Like/Despise Attitude towards Paul Haggis
by jgmamma0
Jun 6th, 2007
11:45:34 AM
Did Haggis write the scene where Bond zaps his heart
by CopOnTheEdge
Jun 6th, 2007
11:49:40 AM
DirkBelig
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
11:50:48 AM
I saw all of the other Best Pic nominees
by Mattyboy122
Jun 6th, 2007
12:00:08 PM
It Is So Fashionable To Hate On Crash
by topaz4206
Jun 6th, 2007
12:00:14 PM
I like arguments about Crash...
by tonagan
Jun 6th, 2007
12:03:59 PM
And Crash is not a bad song...
by tonagan
Jun 6th, 2007
12:04:37 PM
The Ego Has Landed...
by Mako
Jun 6th, 2007
12:05:24 PM
Ye Folk Miss the Point
by Guy Gaduois
Jun 6th, 2007
12:08:44 PM
Whatever....
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
12:09:49 PM
Moriarty
by timmer33
Jun 6th, 2007
12:12:40 PM
topaz4206
by lazynogoodnic
Jun 6th, 2007
12:13:31 PM
CRASH--
by the toad
Jun 6th, 2007
12:14:48 PM
Oh my fucking god...
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
12:15:52 PM
In the Valley of EEGAH?
by Thick McRunFast
Jun 6th, 2007
12:19:29 PM
Can we all just go back to hating Transformers.
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
12:20:04 PM
CRASH IS BETTER THAN HOSTEL PART 2
by TheHorror
Jun 6th, 2007
12:21:44 PM
Wait a second...
by necco
Jun 6th, 2007
12:40:06 PM
No solution to these issues?
by staticneuron
Jun 6th, 2007
12:50:10 PM
Fine, if not Crash then what...?
by Heckles
Jun 6th, 2007
12:51:27 PM
The problems with Crash
by necco
Jun 6th, 2007
12:55:41 PM
The least deserved Osacr of that year
by Corey Atad
Jun 6th, 2007
01:12:58 PM
this movie
by lopan
Jun 6th, 2007
01:25:31 PM
Any Scientologists in the house?
by VaderSabre
Jun 6th, 2007
01:27:30 PM
"a Haggified version of an Ashley Judd crime thriller"
by Det. John Kimble
Jun 6th, 2007
01:33:25 PM
Haggis also wrote FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS screenplay
by Spacesheik
Jun 6th, 2007
01:36:39 PM
Crash - Great DMB album, Terrible movie (07)
by Lando Griffin
Jun 6th, 2007
01:39:43 PM
Fuck you all motherfuckers. Crash was a wonderful film!
by Proman1984
Jun 6th, 2007
01:45:40 PM
you're right Proman
by just pillow talk
Jun 6th, 2007
01:53:55 PM
Hmmm, let's see...
by Sledge Hammer
Jun 6th, 2007
01:58:20 PM
Crash = Short Cuts...
by gavdiggity
Jun 6th, 2007
02:01:06 PM
PwnedByStallone = Felch Monkey
by DirkBelig
Jun 6th, 2007
02:02:06 PM
Umm, Paul Haggis
by Mattyboy122
Jun 6th, 2007
02:15:52 PM
Oh yeah
by Mattyboy122
Jun 6th, 2007
02:24:39 PM
I got a call inviting me to this screening
by BitterMan23
Jun 6th, 2007
02:25:30 PM
He created 'Due South'
by Geddlee
Jun 6th, 2007
02:26:37 PM
Also, the best Crash is the Charles Band one
by BitterMan23
Jun 6th, 2007
02:32:16 PM
Laggis my Haggis
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 6th, 2007
02:37:40 PM
Watch it Sledgehammer!!
by BitterMan23
Jun 6th, 2007
02:38:07 PM
Too chickenshit?
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 6th, 2007
03:13:35 PM
Yeah, Mystic River was Helgeland, not Haggis...
by Sledge Hammer
Jun 6th, 2007
03:20:14 PM
Crash
by DanDelion
Jun 6th, 2007
03:31:14 PM
Sledge Hammer
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
03:34:21 PM
Felch monkey?
by PwnedByStallone
Jun 6th, 2007
03:35:58 PM
Wow Gilgore
by Mattyboy122
Jun 6th, 2007
03:36:28 PM
THE SKY IS BLUE and CRASH
by The Real MiraJeff
Jun 6th, 2007
03:55:19 PM
Tommy Lee also kicked ass in...
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
04:00:22 PM
Re: BringingSexyBack
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
04:03:45 PM
One more thing...
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
04:06:52 PM
Crash was just a pile of shit
by BitterMan23
Jun 6th, 2007
04:12:30 PM
No, Crash was the shit that shit shits
by CherryValance
Jun 6th, 2007
04:47:42 PM
Crash is the Emporer's New Clothes
by BadMrWonka
Jun 6th, 2007
04:49:21 PM
MiraJeff...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 6th, 2007
04:51:21 PM
BadMrWonka for the win!
by Mattyboy122
Jun 6th, 2007
05:00:37 PM
Is this the Hostel 2 talkback?
by BillyPilgrim
Jun 6th, 2007
05:29:57 PM
The first Oscar-Caliber movie of the year?
by ImFixingtoDie
Jun 6th, 2007
05:49:22 PM
Crash WAS kinda pretentious,
by Man_of_Stool
Jun 6th, 2007
05:51:02 PM
I would like to put a small disclaimer on this review
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 6th, 2007
05:54:32 PM
Crash was garbage
by Neo Zeed
Jun 6th, 2007
05:56:54 PM
whatever...
by Stollentroll
Jun 6th, 2007
06:12:44 PM
Mirajeff, Mako, and the handle "IndustryKiller!"
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 6th, 2007
06:24:15 PM
Crash
by VoxMillennium
Jun 6th, 2007
06:26:24 PM
Nobody mentions the music in Crash
by Chopper Sullivan
Jun 6th, 2007
06:28:47 PM
Crash ...
by VoxMillennium
Jun 6th, 2007
06:35:12 PM
Idiots like Haggis ruin the case against Iraq
by ScamsAndFlams
Jun 6th, 2007
06:41:46 PM
Paul Haggis has chosen HD-DVD....Here's why:
by Pound Sand
Jun 6th, 2007
06:42:00 PM
Simplification...
by Chopper Sullivan
Jun 6th, 2007
06:47:08 PM
VoxMillenium
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
07:26:23 PM
That's the whole point of the tagline
by polyh3dron
Jun 6th, 2007
07:27:19 PM
That line was terrible!
by BitterMan23
Jun 6th, 2007
07:28:46 PM
I thought the reason people crashed there cars was...
by The Dum Guy
Jun 6th, 2007
07:35:45 PM
Casino Royale reinvented Bond for the 1980s!
by Spandau Belly
Jun 6th, 2007
07:50:17 PM
and by the way...
by Spandau Belly
Jun 6th, 2007
07:51:37 PM
what? No ninja action? Lame
by AvengingFist
Jun 6th, 2007
08:02:16 PM
Voxmillenium and bitterman
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 6th, 2007
08:07:22 PM
Best part of Crash (aside from the end credits)
by Lando Griffin
Jun 6th, 2007
08:39:13 PM
CRASH
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Jun 6th, 2007
09:07:42 PM
Mr Monkey...
by uVa
Jun 6th, 2007
09:27:16 PM
Crash, would you like to hear me tell a joke?
by Darth_Yupium
Jun 6th, 2007
10:54:09 PM
not only were Brokeback and Munich 2nd and 3rd to crash
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 6th, 2007
11:48:47 PM
Gilgore, you're right
by BadMrWonka
Jun 6th, 2007
11:51:21 PM
Goldeneye is better than Casino Royale
by AlwaysThere
Jun 7th, 2007
12:22:49 AM
Paul Haggis rules
by MissCanadaa
Jun 7th, 2007
12:37:16 AM
Bond is NOT A BAD-ASS...
by CopOnTheEdge
Jun 7th, 2007
12:59:54 AM
I really don't get the Haggis hatred
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
01:02:38 AM
Cruel Kingdom
by BadMrWonka
Jun 7th, 2007
01:07:42 AM
3-6 Mafia?
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
01:10:36 AM
re: CopOnTheEdge
by The Dum Guy
Jun 7th, 2007
01:10:57 AM
I don't like Crash because it won the Oscar...
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
01:12:55 AM
I'm a sucker for Crash-bashing
by waggy
Jun 7th, 2007
01:16:56 AM
He didn't even write Walker
by polyh3dron
Jun 7th, 2007
01:17:45 AM
The Deer Hunter was overrated
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
01:19:32 AM
oops
by waggy
Jun 7th, 2007
01:20:55 AM
Cruel Kingdom
by BadMrWonka
Jun 7th, 2007
01:53:57 AM
and I just noticed
by BadMrWonka
Jun 7th, 2007
01:55:38 AM
BadMrWonka
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
01:59:12 AM
I love how stylish it's become to hate CRASH...
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
02:01:25 AM
Are you high Miscanadaa?
by thevision
Jun 7th, 2007
02:03:34 AM
Crash won because
by thevision
Jun 7th, 2007
02:09:19 AM
thevision
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
02:10:18 AM
Cruel_Kingdom
by animejoe
Jun 7th, 2007
02:12:42 AM
Animejoe
by Cruel_Kingdom
Jun 7th, 2007
02:14:51 AM
Crash doesn't make me angry
by thevision
Jun 7th, 2007
02:23:45 AM
Industry Killer really means, "mom, send more $"
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
02:41:36 AM
Can we get a moritorium on "boring" and "pretentious"
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 7th, 2007
02:45:37 AM
Some good arguments here
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 7th, 2007
02:48:09 AM
Bow Timmy you just summed up the whole movie!
by IndustryKiller!
Jun 7th, 2007
03:04:50 AM
Calling people racist for not liking this movie...
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
03:26:02 AM
Magnum Opus and Franklin T Marmoset
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
03:28:54 AM
Still not convinced
by VoxMillennium
Jun 7th, 2007
03:34:33 AM
Bow Timmy
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
03:38:28 AM
VoxMillennium
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 7th, 2007
03:59:30 AM
Industry Killer just summed up how he just got owned!!
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
04:22:19 AM
Franklin T Marmoset
by VoxMillennium
Jun 7th, 2007
04:58:49 AM
Haggis As Swipe?
by Nigh-Unstoppable
Jun 7th, 2007
05:32:24 AM
MiraJeff
by Clancy Van Lustbader
Jun 7th, 2007
08:12:30 AM
"Stylish" to hate CRASH?
by FleshMachine
Jun 7th, 2007
08:31:39 AM
f this b.s. about "manipulative"
by CaptainGilgore
Jun 7th, 2007
08:36:10 AM
You can learn from Crash that
by MissCanadaa
Jun 7th, 2007
09:09:41 AM
On manipulation and R Lee Ermey
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 7th, 2007
09:10:29 AM
Crash was mediocre, but guess what?
by chains
Jun 7th, 2007
09:31:46 AM
What's with all the ridiculous hatred against "Crash"?
by Pdorwick
Jun 7th, 2007
09:50:36 AM
Jeezum crow
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 7th, 2007
10:02:05 AM
Franklin T Marmoset: It's just your points I'm ignoring
by Pdorwick
Jun 7th, 2007
10:10:08 AM
Sometimes, I argue with a talkbacker
by BitterMan23
Jun 7th, 2007
10:30:02 AM
do you change to empathyman23 or
by just pillow talk
Jun 7th, 2007
10:52:53 AM
Crash>Flags of our fathers
by Out of your element
Jun 7th, 2007
11:00:03 AM
Cruel_Kingdom
by animejoe
Jun 7th, 2007
11:03:49 AM
Brokeback Mountain spoke miles more about our culture
by waggy
Jun 7th, 2007
11:35:50 AM
oscar gold
by Goodbar79
Jun 7th, 2007
11:49:25 AM
Don Cheadle has chosen HD-DVD... Here's why...
by polyh3dron
Jun 7th, 2007
12:09:52 PM
My Coworker, on the 2005 best pic noms
by BitterMan23
Jun 7th, 2007
12:28:19 PM
Franklin, love the R. Lee Ermey image.
by Frietag
Jun 7th, 2007
12:31:41 PM
BOW TIMMY'S RANT = GENIUS.
by CopOnTheEdge
Jun 7th, 2007
12:35:35 PM
Genius?
by BadMrWonka
Jun 7th, 2007
12:48:30 PM
CRASH WAS GREAT
by zdigital
Jun 7th, 2007
12:58:07 PM
I thought Bond did have a deceased wife
by CherryValance
Jun 7th, 2007
01:01:50 PM
Franklin T,
by Spandau Belly
Jun 7th, 2007
01:19:59 PM
Bad Mr Wonka ewwwwwwww
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
01:58:55 PM
Cherry Valence
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
02:02:08 PM
Let me make this as clear as I can.
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
02:06:11 PM
brownstone
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
02:25:42 PM
Bow Timmy
by just pillow talk
Jun 7th, 2007
02:32:15 PM
BOW TIMMY, BITCH.
by polyh3dron
Jun 7th, 2007
02:38:29 PM
Pillow talk? Holy Lord!
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
02:41:17 PM
I don't live in LA
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
03:12:02 PM
Mr. Brownstone?
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
03:23:24 PM
Bow Timmy?
by mr. brownstone
Jun 7th, 2007
03:32:41 PM
Mr Brownstone, yes...
by Bow Timmy
Jun 7th, 2007
03:47:48 PM
Bow Timmy, I agree..
by polyh3dron
Jun 7th, 2007
09:23:39 PM
L. Ron Haggis.
by Paul T. Ryan
Jun 7th, 2007
09:54:47 PM
Thanks for projecting, Pdorwick
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 8th, 2007
02:19:34 AM
Hey, Spandau Belly
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jun 8th, 2007
02:28:03 AM
Bow Timmy
by just pillow talk
Jun 8th, 2007
06:31:12 AM

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