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Published on Wednesday, November 8, 2006 - 9:25pm |
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Jax-Ur On SUPERMAN II: THE RICHARD DONNER CUT!!
Merrick here...
Jax-Ur sent in this look at the newly re-edited…newly re-envisaged…newly restored…newly whatever you want to call it…version of SUPERMAN II.
To make a long story shorter than it deserves to be (and this really is a bit clumsy and over simplified): Richard Donner was directing two SUPERMAN films back in the late 1970s. This meant some of SUPERMAN II was being filmed concurrently with the first installment. Troubles happened, Donner ended up finishing the first movie, but he didn’t come back to finish off the second. Richard Lester came in; story elements deviated from the original plan…much of Donner’s SUPERMAN II material was scrapped, and SUPERMAN II was released in 1980 – a bit different from the film Donner set out to make.
Anyhoo, Warners is releasing a DVD at the end of this month aimed at approximating the version Donner had intended. You can already order it HERE.
If you’re interested in getting a sense of what this project looks like and feels like, IESB posted some clips of reworked scenes (check out the aerial battle) a while back, which you can view HERE.
Jax-Ur got a look at SUPERMAN II: THE RICHARD DONNER CUT and found it a bit underwhelming, although an interesting curiosity. I’m still really looking forward to this…there’s a ton of fabulous SUPERMAN DVDs arriving at the end of the month…which I’m sooooo ready to get lost in. SOME of them are even being issued on HD-DVD. Just saw the first film via an HD broadcast this weekend. ‘Twas mighty sweet, although I’ve many issues with the sound mix.
Here’s Jax-Ur…
attended last week’s world premiere screening of the much anticipated Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut. Like many Supe fans, I’d been looking forward to this for a LONG time. However, I’m here to tell you to lower your expectations on this one. It’s simply not as good as the released version finished by Richard Lester.
After seeing the Donner version, I watched the Lester version again to make sure I could coherently compare the two versions. I concluded there are several very serious problems with the Donner version, and I’ll lay these out, alerting you to spoilers.
First, a few comments about the original Superman 1, so you understand where I’m coming from. IMO, the first film had several major tone shifts. The Krypton section was very serious, bordering on pretentious. Brando played Jor-El not like a man, but as a demi-god, cold, aloof and superior. The Smallville section (my favorite portion) evoked Frank Capra-John Ford Americana, human and emotional. And the Metropolis section started as an enjoyable comic book, but then degenerated into goofy camp as Lex Luthor’s ridiculous plan unfolded, and Gene Hackman mugged and played Superman’s arch-enemy for laughs. For me, the Luthor characterization and earthquake plot ruined what I thought what could have been a fine film. And I totally didn’t buy Superman turning back time, which I thought was a complete cop-out. All real Superman fans know that Supes can’t do that (and even if he could, he wouldn’t)! So that’s the “baggage” I bring to this review.
On to Superman II. As most fans of the series know, Brando filmed scenes for the Fortress of Solitude sequences, but they were dropped when he demanded more money, and redone with Susannah York as Lara. Donner’s version restores the Brando scenes. I found these restored scenes too long and not very good. The truth is, Brando did these films for the money, and basically walked through his role. I doubt that there is any survey of Brando’s work that mentions Jor-El as one of his memorable performances. It seemed that Donner wanted to include every frame of Brando, so there’s a lot of repetition. For example, Superman II now opens as Part 1 did, with Jor-El sentencing the 3 villains to the Phantom Zone, reciting the litany of their crimes. When Luthor plays back the recording crystals in the Fortress of Solitude, he gets the exact same explanation by Jor-El, about the villains. Hearing this information twice is boring and unnecessary. Later, Jor-El interacts with his son. But the tonal shifts of the first film come back to undermine the second one. Brando’s pompous interpretation of Jor-El simply doesn’t mesh well with Reeve’s everyman version of Supes. These actors are in two different movies. Lester got around this by using Lara instead, in a performance that we can now see had more humanity than Brando’s, but was light enough to maintain the comic book tone. Lara is sympathetic and basically supportive regarding her son’s conflict about love vs duty, and this serves the story well, providing the emotion the story needs at this point.
SPOILER. In Donner’s version, Jor-El is judgmental and dismissive to his son which, although is true to his characterization, does not make Superman’s ultimate decision to give up his powers believable. But Donner’s worst choice is in the placement of this scene. In Lester’s version, Superman talks to his mom about his conflict, then gives up his powers BEFORE he sleeps with Lois. The implication is that Superman can’t have sex with a human unless he surrenders his super powers (no doubt, his super orgasm, going faster than a speeding bullet, would be fatal!). But Donner has the sex scene first, and then has Superman talk to Jor-El and give up his powers.
This begs the question, if Superman can have sex with a human, why give up his powers? It makes no sense! Changing the order of these scenes completely undermines the human story and conflict at the core of the film. Later, when Clark returns to the Arctic in hopes of restoring his powers, there’s yet another scene with Jor-El, who says “I knew this was going to happen,” followed by some ridiculous mumbo jumbo in which Jor-El somehow transfers his spirit into his son to restore his powers. It’s supposed to be moving and emotional, but it’s not because there’s no human relationship between Jor-El and Kal-El to begin with. Richard Lester simply showed us Clark finding the green power crystal and left the rest to our imagination, keeping the tone of the entire film light, like a comic book. Donner, however, adds in elements of pretension, and even said in the panel discussion afterward that he was trying to make a movie about the father-son relationship. But it doesn’t work, and it doesn’t belong because Superman II isn’t a movie about father and son, it’s about a man who has to decide between what he wants for himself and his responsibility to the world.
Almost every scene in Donner’s version goes on too long. There’s usually an extra unnecessary beat at the end of scenes. There’s more Luthor and Otis, more Luthor and Miss Teschmacher, more Luthor with the villains, all which slow down the pace for the sake of marginal gags. If you like Hackman’s Luthor, you may enjoy this. But I didn’t.
There is a nice alternate version of the scene in which Lois throws herself into the river in an attempt to prove Clark is Superman. Donner’s version takes place at the Daily Planet, where Lois jumps out the window – same gimmick, different execution. And the screen tests on the Superman 1 DVD are turned into the revelation scene at Niagara Falls, which works pretty well.
SPOILER. Finally, we have a major cop-out with the ending. After the villains have been vanquished and we’re back at the Daily Planet, Lois tells Clark that his secret is safe with her. But rather than giving Lois the “magic kiss of forgetfulness” to erase her memory, Superman once again turns back time, using the same footage from Part 1. He turns back time so far that the villains end up back in the Phantom Zone, meaning that the entire movie never happened! This is followed by the final denouement from the released version, in which Clark Kent returns to the diner and takes down the bully who beat him up. However, because time has been turned back, Clark had never been here before, so this makes no sense either! There’s also another serious lapse of logic regarding the time reversal which requires too much explanation, but it will be obvious to most viewers.
Most of the music is recycled from the first film. This didn’t bother me, but someone else who was there said that the cues kept reminding him of the scenes from Part 1 in which they originally occurred.
All in all, the Donner Version is an interesting curiosity, with some good moments among a lot of misfires. But personally, I’m glad we have the Richard Lester version, which is more coherent tonally, makes more sense, and is more entertaining. Superman completists will no doubt want this DVD for the collection. For everyone else, I suggest you rent it before you buy it.
You can call me Jax-Ur, which should clearly establish my longtime Superman credentials!
Thanks for the write-up, Jax. Well done, and appreciated!
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Reader Talkback
Sad to hear it by Killah_Mate | Nov 8th, 2006 09:14:34 PM | Overrated movies by zekmoe | Nov 8th, 2006 09:15:46 PM | Release from the Phantom Zone by Manos | Nov 8th, 2006 09:17:41 PM | Wow, that sounds terrible by CTU Mole | Nov 8th, 2006 09:29:49 PM | whoa whoa whoa... by xannibal | Nov 8th, 2006 09:29:57 PM | Well Said by Evil Chicken | Nov 8th, 2006 09:31:43 PM | turning back time by redshirt | Nov 8th, 2006 09:34:39 PM | So, you're saynig it's more
like the first one... by WONKABAR | Nov 8th, 2006 09:36:53 PM | Time Travel always sucks - Go
see Primer by Squashua | Nov 8th, 2006 09:40:07 PM | Does it make sense??? by jccalhoun | Nov 8th, 2006 09:44:20 PM | About the "Magic Kiss" by AragornElfstone | Nov 8th, 2006 09:46:29 PM | So supes just beat up that
poor truck driver... by zurge | Nov 8th, 2006 09:48:50 PM | Dammit, he doesn't "spin" the
Earth... by Billyeveryteen | Nov 8th, 2006 10:01:10 PM | Uh... This is bad. by ckane123 | Nov 8th, 2006 10:03:27 PM | CORRECTION: Brando did not
DEMAND more $$ for part 2! by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 8th, 2006 10:13:03 PM | By the way...the turning back
time is pure comic book! by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 8th, 2006 10:16:47 PM | Well... by phaedrus007 | Nov 8th, 2006 10:20:39 PM | This reviewer is an idiot! by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 8th, 2006 10:21:23 PM | Even when Superman DID have a
reason to beat up by CTU Mole | Nov 8th, 2006 10:23:09 PM | So the earth actually didnt
spin backwards by Phategod2 | Nov 8th, 2006 10:27:45 PM | Donner did NOT edit this! He
had little participation by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 8th, 2006 10:28:06 PM | Look by QuinnTheEskimo | Nov 8th, 2006 10:37:46 PM | Director's cuts & special
editions.. by Amy Chasing | Nov 8th, 2006 10:47:39 PM | OK but why fly aound the
planet by Phategod2 | Nov 8th, 2006 10:51:53 PM | Favorite scene by NoahTall | Nov 8th, 2006 11:10:35 PM | Good Review... by Paul T. Ryan | Nov 8th, 2006 11:29:32 PM | Excellent review by Darth Thoth | Nov 8th, 2006 11:38:53 PM | Rifts in the Space-Time
Continuum (by Masi Oka) by Jumping Windows | Nov 8th, 2006 11:45:22 PM | the spinning globe by redshirt | Nov 8th, 2006 11:45:27 PM | Bob Cryptoknight by erikharrison | Nov 8th, 2006 11:57:43 PM | Earth rotating versus time
travel by RodneyOz | Nov 9th, 2006 12:31:35 AM | Damn you Richard Lester by KabutoKoji | Nov 9th, 2006 12:31:41 AM | this guy thinks Lester's
version was better? by zooch | Nov 9th, 2006 12:34:43 AM | Oh, and Jar-ux... by KabutoKoji | Nov 9th, 2006 12:35:11 AM | Oh, and Jax-ur... by KabutoKoji | Nov 9th, 2006 12:36:36 AM | I can't imagine there was a by FilmationFan | Nov 9th, 2006 12:46:28 AM | re: director's cuts that are
big imporvements by beamish13 | Nov 9th, 2006 01:17:29 AM | a) Donner DID help edit b)
Superman DID spin the earth by Fatboy_Roberts | Nov 9th, 2006 01:45:54 AM | I hope he can still turn back
time... by ZeroCorpse | Nov 9th, 2006 01:49:19 AM | So after he turns back time
again... by Doc Savant | Nov 9th, 2006 02:00:54 AM | zooch by WONKABAR | Nov 9th, 2006 02:04:57 AM | I'm sure some self-important
fanboy by Fatboy_Roberts | Nov 9th, 2006 02:06:19 AM | Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI | Nov 9th, 2006 02:37:25 AM | BEST SITE EVER.... by jagger | Nov 9th, 2006 03:59:43 AM | It can't be anymore boring
than 'Returns' by barnaby jones | Nov 9th, 2006 04:48:39 AM | Yackbacker Fatboy_roberts by Kizeesh | Nov 9th, 2006 05:36:39 AM | Damn you Michael Bay! by Pipple | Nov 9th, 2006 05:45:35 AM | This explains why... by rbatty024 | Nov 9th, 2006 06:25:32 AM | RICHARD DONNER CUT = NIPPLES
ON SUPERMAN'S COSTUME +... by 69DUDE | Nov 9th, 2006 07:31:27 AM | Supe's powers restored better
left to imagination? by triplefive | Nov 9th, 2006 07:43:41 AM | Bet the movie actually rocks a
cock by WolfmanNards | Nov 9th, 2006 07:46:02 AM | About the Time Travel sequence
back in the movie... by Bodenland Unbound | Nov 9th, 2006 08:05:08 AM | The Blade Runner directors cut
was better by CTU Mole | Nov 9th, 2006 08:29:13 AM | You know what? by rev_skarekroe | Nov 9th, 2006 08:41:04 AM | Damn you Fat Apollo by Sinestro | Nov 9th, 2006 08:43:13 AM | No matter HOW bad.. by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 08:49:46 AM | Decker was a replicant?!?! by BenBraddock | Nov 9th, 2006 09:04:32 AM | The time travel paradox... by inevitability | Nov 9th, 2006 09:16:09 AM | Sounds like they cut too much
Lester footage by eg4190 | Nov 9th, 2006 09:37:08 AM | The only part of Superman II I
enjoyed... by Childe Roland | Nov 9th, 2006 09:47:44 AM | "Donner Cut" by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 09:55:48 AM | Rushed SUPES I included Time
Travel because... by LegoBricke | Nov 9th, 2006 10:12:01 AM | Superman: The Movie was on
HDTV... by idahomer | Nov 9th, 2006 10:20:23 AM | Zod damned me by MCMLXXXV | Nov 9th, 2006 10:22:18 AM | Time travel was meant for
scientific observation only!! by George Newman | Nov 9th, 2006 10:28:35 AM | Maybe turn-back-the-clock was
used again.... by Dasher | Nov 9th, 2006 10:31:36 AM | Bob Crytonight.... by awesomegeek | Nov 9th, 2006 10:43:55 AM | This guy seems like a
nitpicking hater! by Orionsangels | Nov 9th, 2006 10:59:49 AM | About the "Magic Kiss" -
AragornElfstone by Freefinger | Nov 9th, 2006 11:01:14 AM | "orgasm, going faster than a
speeding bullet"? by Orionsangels | Nov 9th, 2006 11:03:47 AM | Superman II was awful in the
first place by Knobules | Nov 9th, 2006 11:05:12 AM | Time Travel Suquence by MRJONZ72 | Nov 9th, 2006 11:08:23 AM | "why give up his powers?" by Orionsangels | Nov 9th, 2006 11:12:13 AM | Spoiler Warning! by Orionsangels | Nov 9th, 2006 11:18:43 AM | That does sound like ass but
I'll be happy if by www.valiens.com | Nov 9th, 2006 11:19:49 AM | Bob Cryptonight by ManosTHOF | Nov 9th, 2006 11:21:35 AM | Orionsangels, have you ever
seen Supes take a piss? by TheAFLACDuck | Nov 9th, 2006 11:31:01 AM | Oh yeah, and what kind of life
would it be? by TheAFLACDuck | Nov 9th, 2006 11:34:19 AM | Problems with the "Lester cut"
in my opinion: by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 11:41:27 AM | I should also add... by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 11:44:43 AM | DAMN YOU RICHARD DONNER! by PwnedByStallone | Nov 9th, 2006 12:01:42 PM | Problems with Superman II... by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 12:06:07 PM | Kal El Vis by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 12:12:40 PM | Bubba Gillman by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 12:20:02 PM | Kal Elvis by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 12:28:37 PM | Here's why... by kilerb | Nov 9th, 2006 12:44:59 PM | Brando As Greedy? by DarfurOnTheRocks | Nov 9th, 2006 12:53:23 PM | Bubba Gillman by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 01:02:15 PM | How does that jive? by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 01:03:34 PM | Kal El Vis by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 01:15:17 PM | Bubba by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 01:24:57 PM | DarfurOnTheRocks by ManosTHOF | Nov 9th, 2006 01:30:38 PM | Kal by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 01:32:59 PM | Bub by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 01:39:13 PM | the novelty factor by mrbong | Nov 9th, 2006 01:54:03 PM | Kal by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 01:57:54 PM | IMHO... by ldm882 | Nov 9th, 2006 02:23:59 PM | Are you guys talking about
Baby Geniuses 3? by Pipple | Nov 9th, 2006 02:26:56 PM | Bub by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 02:33:48 PM | Kal by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 02:47:30 PM | ZzzzzZzzzz by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 02:59:11 PM | Hmmm, if the time travel
ending was for Supes II... by Childe Roland | Nov 9th, 2006 03:02:03 PM | Geez, another personal shot. by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 03:08:32 PM | Childe Roland by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 03:10:31 PM | Bubba Gillman by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 03:17:32 PM | Kal by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 04:03:01 PM | Thanks, Kal. by Childe Roland | Nov 9th, 2006 04:05:38 PM | Only one man can turn Superman
emo by Pipple | Nov 9th, 2006 04:12:02 PM | Bub by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 04:13:55 PM | How it should have ended... by idahomer | Nov 9th, 2006 04:17:55 PM | Childe Roland by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 04:19:09 PM | Superman III is my favorite
Supes film (yes i said it) by Exeter | Nov 9th, 2006 04:38:07 PM | Superman III is NOT as bad as
people by Kal El Vis | Nov 9th, 2006 04:52:17 PM | III is one of those so bad
it's good movies by Pipple | Nov 9th, 2006 04:52:29 PM | no, it's a pretty sweet
superman, that's for sure. by Exeter | Nov 9th, 2006 05:07:55 PM | I kinda had a feeling this
would'nt be very good... by alienindisguise | Nov 9th, 2006 05:43:03 PM | If I may, Kal... by Bubba Gillman | Nov 9th, 2006 05:43:14 PM | Reeves was great... by Freefinger | Nov 9th, 2006 05:49:39 PM | HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM by Happy virgin | Nov 9th, 2006 06:28:25 PM | The reason why Supes bones
Lois before depowering by Immortal_Fish | Nov 9th, 2006 07:24:20 PM | id have just prefered... by Obscura | Nov 9th, 2006 07:44:34 PM | Superman III is terrible by Orionsangels | Nov 9th, 2006 07:56:58 PM | Quest for Peace owns Supes I &
II's asses, biatches! by darthbinks1220 | Nov 9th, 2006 09:59:00 PM | Now that I have your
attention........... by darthbinks1220 | Nov 9th, 2006 10:02:09 PM | Superman 3 shoulda had
Brainiac and Red Kryptonite by Drath | Nov 9th, 2006 10:07:26 PM | Bob Cryptonight apologizes to
everyone... by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 9th, 2006 11:15:33 PM | By the way, the WORST part of
SUPERMAN II-Lester cut... by Bob Cryptonight | Nov 9th, 2006 11:19:21 PM | Superman III is Citizen Kane
compared to Supes IV by Exeter | Nov 10th, 2006 01:32:05 AM | oh and Brainiac ruled by Exeter | Nov 10th, 2006 01:38:38 AM | RETARDS by NachoNegro | Nov 10th, 2006 03:39:59 AM | Red guy against Green guy by BenBraddock | Nov 10th, 2006 03:50:26 AM | Superman III by NachoNegro | Nov 10th, 2006 05:39:17 AM | The original Superman 3 by Darth Fart | Nov 10th, 2006 07:38:52 AM | Bub by Kal El Vis | Nov 10th, 2006 08:20:55 AM | There was a "Superman III"? by Bitterella | Nov 10th, 2006 09:13:19 AM | There was a Superman IV?????? by Bitterella | Nov 10th, 2006 09:16:33 AM | Damn! by Mr Incredible | Nov 10th, 2006 09:16:51 AM | imagine if... by Bitterella | Nov 10th, 2006 09:54:57 AM | supes IV is an anomaly from
the ass late 80s by Exeter | Nov 10th, 2006 02:52:50 PM | Supes IV and Bats & Robin own
Batman Begins by darthbinks1220 | Nov 10th, 2006 05:50:43 PM | According to IGN Film Force by darthbinks1220 | Nov 10th, 2006 06:05:09 PM | some asshole put this AICN
"review" on amazon by Exeter | Nov 10th, 2006 06:48:29 PM | ignore my above post, saw RDC,
1980 film is superior by Exeter | Jan 21st, 2007 08:48:24 PM | movies should be collaborative
efforts by Exeter | Jan 21st, 2007 09:11:02 PM |
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