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Jax-Ur On SUPERMAN II: THE RICHARD DONNER CUT!!

Merrick here...

Jax-Ur sent in this look at the newly re-edited…newly re-envisaged…newly restored…newly whatever you want to call it…version of SUPERMAN II.

To make a long story shorter than it deserves to be (and this really is a bit clumsy and over simplified): Richard Donner was directing two SUPERMAN films back in the late 1970s. This meant some of SUPERMAN II was being filmed concurrently with the first installment. Troubles happened, Donner ended up finishing the first movie, but he didn’t come back to finish off the second. Richard Lester came in; story elements deviated from the original plan…much of Donner’s SUPERMAN II material was scrapped, and SUPERMAN II was released in 1980 – a bit different from the film Donner set out to make.

Anyhoo, Warners is releasing a DVD at the end of this month aimed at approximating the version Donner had intended. You can already order it HERE.

If you’re interested in getting a sense of what this project looks like and feels like, IESB posted some clips of reworked scenes (check out the aerial battle) a while back, which you can view HERE.

Jax-Ur got a look at SUPERMAN II: THE RICHARD DONNER CUT and found it a bit underwhelming, although an interesting curiosity. I’m still really looking forward to this…there’s a ton of fabulous SUPERMAN DVDs arriving at the end of the month…which I’m sooooo ready to get lost in. SOME of them are even being issued on HD-DVD. Just saw the first film via an HD broadcast this weekend. ‘Twas mighty sweet, although I’ve many issues with the sound mix.

Here’s Jax-Ur…

attended last week’s world premiere screening of the much anticipated Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut. Like many Supe fans, I’d been looking forward to this for a LONG time. However, I’m here to tell you to lower your expectations on this one. It’s simply not as good as the released version finished by Richard Lester.

After seeing the Donner version, I watched the Lester version again to make sure I could coherently compare the two versions. I concluded there are several very serious problems with the Donner version, and I’ll lay these out, alerting you to spoilers.

First, a few comments about the original Superman 1, so you understand where I’m coming from. IMO, the first film had several major tone shifts. The Krypton section was very serious, bordering on pretentious. Brando played Jor-El not like a man, but as a demi-god, cold, aloof and superior. The Smallville section (my favorite portion) evoked Frank Capra-John Ford Americana, human and emotional. And the Metropolis section started as an enjoyable comic book, but then degenerated into goofy camp as Lex Luthor’s ridiculous plan unfolded, and Gene Hackman mugged and played Superman’s arch-enemy for laughs. For me, the Luthor characterization and earthquake plot ruined what I thought what could have been a fine film. And I totally didn’t buy Superman turning back time, which I thought was a complete cop-out. All real Superman fans know that Supes can’t do that (and even if he could, he wouldn’t)! So that’s the “baggage” I bring to this review.

On to Superman II. As most fans of the series know, Brando filmed scenes for the Fortress of Solitude sequences, but they were dropped when he demanded more money, and redone with Susannah York as Lara. Donner’s version restores the Brando scenes. I found these restored scenes too long and not very good. The truth is, Brando did these films for the money, and basically walked through his role. I doubt that there is any survey of Brando’s work that mentions Jor-El as one of his memorable performances. It seemed that Donner wanted to include every frame of Brando, so there’s a lot of repetition. For example, Superman II now opens as Part 1 did, with Jor-El sentencing the 3 villains to the Phantom Zone, reciting the litany of their crimes. When Luthor plays back the recording crystals in the Fortress of Solitude, he gets the exact same explanation by Jor-El, about the villains. Hearing this information twice is boring and unnecessary. Later, Jor-El interacts with his son. But the tonal shifts of the first film come back to undermine the second one. Brando’s pompous interpretation of Jor-El simply doesn’t mesh well with Reeve’s everyman version of Supes. These actors are in two different movies. Lester got around this by using Lara instead, in a performance that we can now see had more humanity than Brando’s, but was light enough to maintain the comic book tone. Lara is sympathetic and basically supportive regarding her son’s conflict about love vs duty, and this serves the story well, providing the emotion the story needs at this point.

SPOILER. In Donner’s version, Jor-El is judgmental and dismissive to his son which, although is true to his characterization, does not make Superman’s ultimate decision to give up his powers believable. But Donner’s worst choice is in the placement of this scene. In Lester’s version, Superman talks to his mom about his conflict, then gives up his powers BEFORE he sleeps with Lois. The implication is that Superman can’t have sex with a human unless he surrenders his super powers (no doubt, his super orgasm, going faster than a speeding bullet, would be fatal!). But Donner has the sex scene first, and then has Superman talk to Jor-El and give up his powers.

This begs the question, if Superman can have sex with a human, why give up his powers? It makes no sense! Changing the order of these scenes completely undermines the human story and conflict at the core of the film. Later, when Clark returns to the Arctic in hopes of restoring his powers, there’s yet another scene with Jor-El, who says “I knew this was going to happen,” followed by some ridiculous mumbo jumbo in which Jor-El somehow transfers his spirit into his son to restore his powers. It’s supposed to be moving and emotional, but it’s not because there’s no human relationship between Jor-El and Kal-El to begin with. Richard Lester simply showed us Clark finding the green power crystal and left the rest to our imagination, keeping the tone of the entire film light, like a comic book. Donner, however, adds in elements of pretension, and even said in the panel discussion afterward that he was trying to make a movie about the father-son relationship. But it doesn’t work, and it doesn’t belong because Superman II isn’t a movie about father and son, it’s about a man who has to decide between what he wants for himself and his responsibility to the world.

Almost every scene in Donner’s version goes on too long. There’s usually an extra unnecessary beat at the end of scenes. There’s more Luthor and Otis, more Luthor and Miss Teschmacher, more Luthor with the villains, all which slow down the pace for the sake of marginal gags. If you like Hackman’s Luthor, you may enjoy this. But I didn’t.

There is a nice alternate version of the scene in which Lois throws herself into the river in an attempt to prove Clark is Superman. Donner’s version takes place at the Daily Planet, where Lois jumps out the window – same gimmick, different execution. And the screen tests on the Superman 1 DVD are turned into the revelation scene at Niagara Falls, which works pretty well.

SPOILER. Finally, we have a major cop-out with the ending. After the villains have been vanquished and we’re back at the Daily Planet, Lois tells Clark that his secret is safe with her. But rather than giving Lois the “magic kiss of forgetfulness” to erase her memory, Superman once again turns back time, using the same footage from Part 1. He turns back time so far that the villains end up back in the Phantom Zone, meaning that the entire movie never happened! This is followed by the final denouement from the released version, in which Clark Kent returns to the diner and takes down the bully who beat him up. However, because time has been turned back, Clark had never been here before, so this makes no sense either! There’s also another serious lapse of logic regarding the time reversal which requires too much explanation, but it will be obvious to most viewers.

Most of the music is recycled from the first film. This didn’t bother me, but someone else who was there said that the cues kept reminding him of the scenes from Part 1 in which they originally occurred.

All in all, the Donner Version is an interesting curiosity, with some good moments among a lot of misfires. But personally, I’m glad we have the Richard Lester version, which is more coherent tonally, makes more sense, and is more entertaining. Superman completists will no doubt want this DVD for the collection. For everyone else, I suggest you rent it before you buy it.

You can call me Jax-Ur, which should clearly establish my longtime Superman credentials!

Thanks for the write-up, Jax. Well done, and appreciated!

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Sad to hear it
by Killah_Mate
Nov 8th, 2006
09:14:34 PM
Overrated movies
by zekmoe
Nov 8th, 2006
09:15:46 PM
Release from the Phantom Zone
by Manos
Nov 8th, 2006
09:17:41 PM
Wow, that sounds terrible
by CTU Mole
Nov 8th, 2006
09:29:49 PM
whoa whoa whoa...
by xannibal
Nov 8th, 2006
09:29:57 PM
Well Said
by Evil Chicken
Nov 8th, 2006
09:31:43 PM
turning back time
by redshirt
Nov 8th, 2006
09:34:39 PM
So, you're saynig it's more like the first one...
by WONKABAR
Nov 8th, 2006
09:36:53 PM
Time Travel always sucks - Go see Primer
by Squashua
Nov 8th, 2006
09:40:07 PM
Does it make sense???
by jccalhoun
Nov 8th, 2006
09:44:20 PM
About the "Magic Kiss"
by AragornElfstone
Nov 8th, 2006
09:46:29 PM
So supes just beat up that poor truck driver...
by zurge
Nov 8th, 2006
09:48:50 PM
Dammit, he doesn't "spin" the Earth...
by Billyeveryteen
Nov 8th, 2006
10:01:10 PM
Uh... This is bad.
by ckane123
Nov 8th, 2006
10:03:27 PM
CORRECTION: Brando did not DEMAND more $$ for part 2!
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 8th, 2006
10:13:03 PM
By the way...the turning back time is pure comic book!
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 8th, 2006
10:16:47 PM
Well...
by phaedrus007
Nov 8th, 2006
10:20:39 PM
This reviewer is an idiot!
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 8th, 2006
10:21:23 PM
Even when Superman DID have a reason to beat up
by CTU Mole
Nov 8th, 2006
10:23:09 PM
So the earth actually didnt spin backwards
by Phategod2
Nov 8th, 2006
10:27:45 PM
Donner did NOT edit this! He had little participation
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 8th, 2006
10:28:06 PM
Look
by QuinnTheEskimo
Nov 8th, 2006
10:37:46 PM
Director's cuts & special editions..
by Amy Chasing
Nov 8th, 2006
10:47:39 PM
OK but why fly aound the planet
by Phategod2
Nov 8th, 2006
10:51:53 PM
Favorite scene
by NoahTall
Nov 8th, 2006
11:10:35 PM
Good Review...
by Paul T. Ryan
Nov 8th, 2006
11:29:32 PM
Excellent review
by Darth Thoth
Nov 8th, 2006
11:38:53 PM
Rifts in the Space-Time Continuum (by Masi Oka)
by Jumping Windows
Nov 8th, 2006
11:45:22 PM
the spinning globe
by redshirt
Nov 8th, 2006
11:45:27 PM
Bob Cryptoknight
by erikharrison
Nov 8th, 2006
11:57:43 PM
Earth rotating versus time travel
by RodneyOz
Nov 9th, 2006
12:31:35 AM
Damn you Richard Lester
by KabutoKoji
Nov 9th, 2006
12:31:41 AM
this guy thinks Lester's version was better?
by zooch
Nov 9th, 2006
12:34:43 AM
Oh, and Jar-ux...
by KabutoKoji
Nov 9th, 2006
12:35:11 AM
Oh, and Jax-ur...
by KabutoKoji
Nov 9th, 2006
12:36:36 AM
I can't imagine there was a
by FilmationFan
Nov 9th, 2006
12:46:28 AM
re: director's cuts that are big imporvements
by beamish13
Nov 9th, 2006
01:17:29 AM
a) Donner DID help edit b) Superman DID spin the earth
by Fatboy_Roberts
Nov 9th, 2006
01:45:54 AM
I hope he can still turn back time...
by ZeroCorpse
Nov 9th, 2006
01:49:19 AM
So after he turns back time again...
by Doc Savant
Nov 9th, 2006
02:00:54 AM
zooch
by WONKABAR
Nov 9th, 2006
02:04:57 AM
I'm sure some self-important fanboy
by Fatboy_Roberts
Nov 9th, 2006
02:06:19 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
by MCMLXXVI
Nov 9th, 2006
02:37:25 AM
BEST SITE EVER....
by jagger
Nov 9th, 2006
03:59:43 AM
It can't be anymore boring than 'Returns'
by barnaby jones
Nov 9th, 2006
04:48:39 AM
Yackbacker Fatboy_roberts
by Kizeesh
Nov 9th, 2006
05:36:39 AM
Damn you Michael Bay!
by Pipple
Nov 9th, 2006
05:45:35 AM
This explains why...
by rbatty024
Nov 9th, 2006
06:25:32 AM
RICHARD DONNER CUT = NIPPLES ON SUPERMAN'S COSTUME +...
by 69DUDE
Nov 9th, 2006
07:31:27 AM
Supe's powers restored better left to imagination?
by triplefive
Nov 9th, 2006
07:43:41 AM
Bet the movie actually rocks a cock
by WolfmanNards
Nov 9th, 2006
07:46:02 AM
About the Time Travel sequence back in the movie...
by Bodenland Unbound
Nov 9th, 2006
08:05:08 AM
The Blade Runner directors cut was better
by CTU Mole
Nov 9th, 2006
08:29:13 AM
You know what?
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 9th, 2006
08:41:04 AM
Damn you Fat Apollo
by Sinestro
Nov 9th, 2006
08:43:13 AM
No matter HOW bad..
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
08:49:46 AM
Decker was a replicant?!?!
by BenBraddock
Nov 9th, 2006
09:04:32 AM
The time travel paradox...
by inevitability
Nov 9th, 2006
09:16:09 AM
Sounds like they cut too much Lester footage
by eg4190
Nov 9th, 2006
09:37:08 AM
The only part of Superman II I enjoyed...
by Childe Roland
Nov 9th, 2006
09:47:44 AM
"Donner Cut"
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
09:55:48 AM
Rushed SUPES I included Time Travel because...
by LegoBricke
Nov 9th, 2006
10:12:01 AM
Superman: The Movie was on HDTV...
by idahomer
Nov 9th, 2006
10:20:23 AM
Zod damned me
by MCMLXXXV
Nov 9th, 2006
10:22:18 AM
Time travel was meant for scientific observation only!!
by George Newman
Nov 9th, 2006
10:28:35 AM
Maybe turn-back-the-clock was used again....
by Dasher
Nov 9th, 2006
10:31:36 AM
Bob Crytonight....
by awesomegeek
Nov 9th, 2006
10:43:55 AM
This guy seems like a nitpicking hater!
by Orionsangels
Nov 9th, 2006
10:59:49 AM
About the "Magic Kiss" - AragornElfstone
by Freefinger
Nov 9th, 2006
11:01:14 AM
"orgasm, going faster than a speeding bullet"?
by Orionsangels
Nov 9th, 2006
11:03:47 AM
Superman II was awful in the first place
by Knobules
Nov 9th, 2006
11:05:12 AM
Time Travel Suquence
by MRJONZ72
Nov 9th, 2006
11:08:23 AM
"why give up his powers?"
by Orionsangels
Nov 9th, 2006
11:12:13 AM
Spoiler Warning!
by Orionsangels
Nov 9th, 2006
11:18:43 AM
That does sound like ass but I'll be happy if
by www.valiens.com
Nov 9th, 2006
11:19:49 AM
Bob Cryptonight
by ManosTHOF
Nov 9th, 2006
11:21:35 AM
Orionsangels, have you ever seen Supes take a piss?
by TheAFLACDuck
Nov 9th, 2006
11:31:01 AM
Oh yeah, and what kind of life would it be?
by TheAFLACDuck
Nov 9th, 2006
11:34:19 AM
Problems with the "Lester cut" in my opinion:
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
11:41:27 AM
I should also add...
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
11:44:43 AM
DAMN YOU RICHARD DONNER!
by PwnedByStallone
Nov 9th, 2006
12:01:42 PM
Problems with Superman II...
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
12:06:07 PM
Kal El Vis
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
12:12:40 PM
Bubba Gillman
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
12:20:02 PM
Kal Elvis
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
12:28:37 PM
Here's why...
by kilerb
Nov 9th, 2006
12:44:59 PM
Brando As Greedy?
by DarfurOnTheRocks
Nov 9th, 2006
12:53:23 PM
Bubba Gillman
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
01:02:15 PM
How does that jive?
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
01:03:34 PM
Kal El Vis
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
01:15:17 PM
Bubba
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
01:24:57 PM
DarfurOnTheRocks
by ManosTHOF
Nov 9th, 2006
01:30:38 PM
Kal
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
01:32:59 PM
Bub
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
01:39:13 PM
the novelty factor
by mrbong
Nov 9th, 2006
01:54:03 PM
Kal
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
01:57:54 PM
IMHO...
by ldm882
Nov 9th, 2006
02:23:59 PM
Are you guys talking about Baby Geniuses 3?
by Pipple
Nov 9th, 2006
02:26:56 PM
Bub
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
02:33:48 PM
Kal
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
02:47:30 PM
ZzzzzZzzzz
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
02:59:11 PM
Hmmm, if the time travel ending was for Supes II...
by Childe Roland
Nov 9th, 2006
03:02:03 PM
Geez, another personal shot.
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
03:08:32 PM
Childe Roland
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
03:10:31 PM
Bubba Gillman
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
03:17:32 PM
Kal
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
04:03:01 PM
Thanks, Kal.
by Childe Roland
Nov 9th, 2006
04:05:38 PM
Only one man can turn Superman emo
by Pipple
Nov 9th, 2006
04:12:02 PM
Bub
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
04:13:55 PM
How it should have ended...
by idahomer
Nov 9th, 2006
04:17:55 PM
Childe Roland
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
04:19:09 PM
Superman III is my favorite Supes film (yes i said it)
by Exeter
Nov 9th, 2006
04:38:07 PM
Superman III is NOT as bad as people
by Kal El Vis
Nov 9th, 2006
04:52:17 PM
III is one of those so bad it's good movies
by Pipple
Nov 9th, 2006
04:52:29 PM
no, it's a pretty sweet superman, that's for sure.
by Exeter
Nov 9th, 2006
05:07:55 PM
I kinda had a feeling this would'nt be very good...
by alienindisguise
Nov 9th, 2006
05:43:03 PM
If I may, Kal...
by Bubba Gillman
Nov 9th, 2006
05:43:14 PM
Reeves was great...
by Freefinger
Nov 9th, 2006
05:49:39 PM
HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM
by Happy virgin
Nov 9th, 2006
06:28:25 PM
The reason why Supes bones Lois before depowering
by Immortal_Fish
Nov 9th, 2006
07:24:20 PM
id have just prefered...
by Obscura
Nov 9th, 2006
07:44:34 PM
Superman III is terrible
by Orionsangels
Nov 9th, 2006
07:56:58 PM
Quest for Peace owns Supes I & II's asses, biatches!
by darthbinks1220
Nov 9th, 2006
09:59:00 PM
Now that I have your attention...........
by darthbinks1220
Nov 9th, 2006
10:02:09 PM
Superman 3 shoulda had Brainiac and Red Kryptonite
by Drath
Nov 9th, 2006
10:07:26 PM
Bob Cryptonight apologizes to everyone...
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 9th, 2006
11:15:33 PM
By the way, the WORST part of SUPERMAN II-Lester cut...
by Bob Cryptonight
Nov 9th, 2006
11:19:21 PM
Superman III is Citizen Kane compared to Supes IV
by Exeter
Nov 10th, 2006
01:32:05 AM
oh and Brainiac ruled
by Exeter
Nov 10th, 2006
01:38:38 AM
RETARDS
by NachoNegro
Nov 10th, 2006
03:39:59 AM
Red guy against Green guy
by BenBraddock
Nov 10th, 2006
03:50:26 AM
Superman III
by NachoNegro
Nov 10th, 2006
05:39:17 AM
The original Superman 3
by Darth Fart
Nov 10th, 2006
07:38:52 AM
Bub
by Kal El Vis
Nov 10th, 2006
08:20:55 AM
There was a "Superman III"?
by Bitterella
Nov 10th, 2006
09:13:19 AM
There was a Superman IV??????
by Bitterella
Nov 10th, 2006
09:16:33 AM
Damn!
by Mr Incredible
Nov 10th, 2006
09:16:51 AM
imagine if...
by Bitterella
Nov 10th, 2006
09:54:57 AM
supes IV is an anomaly from the ass late 80s
by Exeter
Nov 10th, 2006
02:52:50 PM
Supes IV and Bats & Robin own Batman Begins
by darthbinks1220
Nov 10th, 2006
05:50:43 PM
According to IGN Film Force
by darthbinks1220
Nov 10th, 2006
06:05:09 PM
some asshole put this AICN "review" on amazon
by Exeter
Nov 10th, 2006
06:48:29 PM
ignore my above post, saw RDC, 1980 film is superior
by Exeter
Jan 21st, 2007
08:48:24 PM
movies should be collaborative efforts
by Exeter
Jan 21st, 2007
09:11:02 PM

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