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Seth Green In TERMINATOR 3'!

Published at:  Aug 26, 2001 2:45:56 AM CDT

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.



I'm still trying to trace how this one got started, but I've been e-mailed about a dozen times this weekend by people who say they've heard that Seth Green (BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, RAT RACE, RADIO DAYS, AUSTIN POWERS) is stepping in to replace Edward Furlong as John Connor in the in-development TERMINATOR 3.



Rumors on this film have been flying fast and furious, like the one that Vin Diesel would be playing a bad guy in the film, something that my sources at Mostow/Lieberman say simple isn't true. Right now, the main bad guy in the film is still a female terminator, as in the original Teddy Serafian draft that I hated so very, very much.



But let's assume this is true, and Furlong has opted out of the new film. Is Seth Green a good choice? Could be. No one's let him really stretch in a drama before, and there's something about Seth, a sincerity, that could be quite effective in the role.



Of course, John Connor was also supposed to be a supreme badass once he got older, and with Seth standing somewhere between two and three feet tall, the visual end of things might play a little on the absurd side.



I'll work to sort this one out later this week.



"Moriarty" out.









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  • Aug 26, 2001 2:52:29 AM CDT

    This film sounds worse with every news.

    by buscemi 01

    Get Cameron, Hamilton and keep Furlong. Or this will bomb big time. And don't take Vin Diesel. I don't like the guy.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 3:05:41 AM CDT

    Apparently (according to a draft I read recently) Seth Green HAS

    by cash bailey

  • I mean that was really terrible.
    Cheets on his wife

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  • I mean that was really terrible.
    Cheets on his wife.

    Maybe the rock should play john conner,or maybe Linda hamilton she's ooking pretty rough lately

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  • Aug 26, 2001 3:56:23 AM CDT

    Pardon me? Scott Evil? Errrrr...

    by talkbacktornado

    NO WAY. If this happens, and Arnie's doin this nevertheless, I'm out. tt out (tt cheats on his wife too)

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  • Aug 26, 2001 4:29:47 AM CDT

    Fuck, Chick Terminators, No Furlong, No Cameron, Damn

    by gandalf the grey

    Fuck, a Chick Terminator would be so fucking cliche, and hell, Furlong is what made Terminator 2 great in my opinion, ok Seth Green is a good actor, which on Buffy was Great, but I hardly see him as embodying the visual aspects of a fucking military leader/commando (whatever the hell he is) although I believe he could act it. than a 3rd Generat

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  • Aug 26, 2001 4:48:44 AM CDT

    no vocabulary

    by jetcreep

    Can you people use other words than the profanity that you think is "so cool". It shows how ignorant you really are!

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  • Aug 26, 2001 5:01:57 AM CDT

    Mis-casting

    by robert blake

    This is ridiculous! It's even dumber than casting Freddie Prinze Jr rather than Mark Hammil in "Wing Commander".

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  • Aug 26, 2001 5:45:18 AM CDT

    There's no whining but what we make!

    by jharmon

    How can you people say Furlong made T2?? His whiny voice ALMOST ruined it. Yes, a dimunitive John Connor ala Seth Green might be a stretch... but maybe it'll explain his Napoleonic rise to power.....

    So, any speculation (by people who haven't read the script) on how they explain this one, since everything got 'sploded in T2, so there shouldn't ever be a Skynet??

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:26:23 AM CDT

    Worse and worse...

    by ewem

    I like Seth Green...but this is yet again more painful miscasting. Nic Cage as Superman! Hell, John Travolta as Superman I read here a couple of weeks ago!
    DiCaprio as Anakin! Now this?!?!
    Somebody please shoot someone and end this!
    I hope none of what I have heard about T3 is true. In fact, based on everything I have heard, I hope they don't make one at all.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:30:04 AM CDT

    Without Micheal Biehn forget it...

    by schreck

    ANTIFONZ you got it right; let's all ignore this and hope it bombs. If Cameron isn't involved then what's the point? And how many times can you contrive a story involving the Arnold model of Terminator?

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:58:18 AM CDT

    I smell bullshit!

    by uncapie

    The only two actors signed on are Arnie and Furlong, and Furlong's not stupid enough to opt out for the major paycheck he's getting. This rumour is bullshit!

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  • Aug 26, 2001 7:50:40 AM CDT

    We got furlong by the balls now!

    by magusreno

    If this movie comes off as having something to prove like, "Women can be terminators too!" then you can bet even less people are going to see it.

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  • Which means you'll get 'Cuntney' Love or 'Fahm-key' or Heather Graham. What I want to know is why they can't get a Jet Li or even a Ray Park for this film? Or are those guys booked to film the "Tekken" and "Soul Calibur" movies back to back?

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:49:58 AM CDT

    No seth green please

    by notageek

    ...that is all. (oh yeah, no Freddie Prinze Jr. either)

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:51:40 AM CDT

    Use the guy that played the older Conner!

    by norm3

    Set the story in the future,and use the Older Conner!

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:59:12 AM CDT

    The way there could still be a skynet is....

    by mikeysmash

    Arnold's Terminator had his arm ripped off in the final battle. It was left behind, and later discovered by the techies of Skynet(who must have been relieved, since the FIRST arm and chip were melted in that pool of hot metal). A great book, T2:Infiltrator, recently came out and it would make a PERFECT sequel to T2. It has the female terminator...(but she's not a cyborg, she's all human, natch). It shows John Connor in his late teens, and he is becoming a viscious motherfucker, priming himself to lead the resistance. Anyway, just thought I'd answer the question above about HOW there could still be a skynet!

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:25:35 AM CDT

    Please No.

    by chew the fat

    This movie is starting to smell already. Seth was great as Scott Evil and on Buffy, but he's too short. Maybe they can use the technology in LOTRs to make him taller.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:30:31 AM CDT

    Better older John Conners

    by chew the fat

    Jude Law would be better. At least hes tall.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:40:05 AM CDT

    Seth is too good for this role

    by epitone

    Furlong brought that "novice actor" quality that was essential to the overall feel of the film...Seth is way too nuanced and professional to fill his shoes. What's Macaulay Culkin doing these days?

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:53:34 AM CDT

    Yah ve haf all sorts of fun cameos in dis moofie but jus remembe

    by regis travolta

    Ahnuld here und shtop grumbling ober da shtupid casting shtunts. Vin Diesel he'll be good, he's ugly like me so don't vorry ve don't need Jim Cameron or Linda Hunt or Eddie Furlong all yu need is me! Und yu all vill get me! T3 is gonna be fantastic exciting and good akshun to make yu all happy liddle talkbackers. Und be sure to see my latest moofie Collateral Dumbass I play another generic hero guy dis time I go to South America to kill terrorizers! Yu vill all love it! Den yu get to see me in da T3 moofie it's gonna be great! Now I haf to go help Maria wit our kids even I your old pal Ahnuld haf to change poopy diapers sometimes. :(

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:58:02 AM CDT

    My two cents...

    by darth pixel

    With no Jim Cameron (the best director out there at the moment) they could snag a Elvis Presley AND George Burns, and I would still call it 'Less Than Perfect'. You see, without Cameron, the Terminator is nothing more than a damn summer popcorn flick with good special effects. Cameron was the guiding force behind the success of the Terminator series. And if he is gone, so is the appeal. Sure, it may peak at Number One ate the box Office for a few weeks, but it is 'Hasta la Vista, Baby' will never be the same without 'Ol Jim Cameron! Just me take on this whole money making ploy.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:59:59 AM CDT

    Seth Green is great, but he is no John Connor. Still Furlong sh

    by tequila wyrm

    The adult John Connor is a major badass (and should remain one in any timeline) - Furlong might be taller than Green but he's still a runt. They need to cast someone that doesn't look like a heroin addict. My vote? NOT FREDDIE PRINZE JR. That having been said... I'd go with Guy Pearce or Timothy Olyphant. Not that it matters with Jonathan Mostow directing T3. The only thing he's done that was worth watching was "U-571"

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  • Aug 26, 2001 10:03:44 AM CDT

    Sorry....

    by darth pixel

    Sorry about the typo's, But I just drank a 5th of tequila... dare me to drive?

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  • Aug 26, 2001 10:10:57 AM CDT

    stretch?

    by oompacabra

    That's a pretty strong word fo an actor like Seth, who's been around the block a few times or more. Especially when you're talking about Terminator, which is NOT a drama it's an action film. i don't think he'd have any trouble on this gig with the exception of wire work, which can't be left out of an action film anymore to the point that I'm not sure why we're looking so forward to the Matrix anymore. Since the first one, haven't we been drowned in what attracted us to it in the first place. If you've read any Joseph Cambell, you know there is nothing creative about the structure of the Matrix or the journey of Neo, but I have gone on the biggest tangeant. Trust in Seth.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 10:44:54 AM CDT

    Jim Cameron is what

    by jefferylebowski

  • Aug 26, 2001 10:51:54 AM CDT

    Jim Cameron is what???

    by jefferylebowski

    Somebody just called Cameron the "best director out there today."
    I'm beginning to think that must have been Jim Cameron himself. Disguised as an ordinary talk-backer.
    I don't think he's even close to the top ranks of American filmmakers in general, but he's probably the best director working in Hollywood who also happens to be illiterate.
    Because let's face it- as good as his movies look, he can't write to save his life. I'm surprised he manages to spell his own name correctly in the credits.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 11:49:34 AM CDT

    I have to agree with The Medajackal..

    by buscemi 01

    Cameron is the genius behind The Terminator. No Cameron, no Terminator. To the dude who said he can't write. The Terminator scripts belong to the best action adventures out there.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 12:33:11 PM CDT

    Female Terminators? Probably took a cue from the anime Black Ma

    by monkey_king

    Hell, a rewritten version of Black Magic with John Connor involved would be sweet if done as a live-action film.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 12:39:38 PM CDT

    Lebowski... who pissed on *your* rug, dude?

    by llghtst0rmer

    Let me just tell you something... if you don't like Cameron as a director, fine. Whatever. Opinions vary. But calling the guy a bad writer and asserting that he's illiterate is one of the stupidest, most misinformed things you could say. Claiming the guy is incompetent as a writer proves either or both of the following: 1) You have NEVER read a Jim Cameron script. 2) You have no real association with the filmmaking industry in any way, shape, or form, least of all the screenwriting aspect of it. Ask anybody that has ever worked with the guy, even anybody that *hated* working with the guy. He can be a tyrant, he can be unreasonable, he can be an excrutiatingly difficult guy to work for, but one thing he is *not*, by any stretch of the imagination, is uneducated. This endeth the lesson.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 12:53:16 PM CDT

    What the fuck is going on?

    by spawnxlite

    This movie is going down the drain because of the people in charge of this movie. First you got the fuckin lady terminator, then you got no cameron directing, and no linda hamilton returning, plus they got pussies producers kkasser and vanja in charge, and now they tell me seth green is john conner? This may be the worst news i have heard from this terminator 3 project. i mean what the fuck is the casting director thinking? look at seth green, he's no fuckin leader and he doesn't even look like a fighter, so what the hell is he doing playing john conner? Well all I can do is hope that this is just a rumor and eddie furlong returns to reprise his role as the human leader that is suppose to take down skynet.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 1:47:10 PM CDT

    Cameron a good writer?!

    by epitone

    Cameron is a hack. A talented hack, but a hack nonetheless. Like Shane Black, Joe Eszterhas, or David Koepp, he has a lot of pretty good ideas that he is able to turn into highly marketable scripts, and this is an extremely sought after skill in Hollywood. His real strength is as a director, and admittedly in that department he is one of the great visionaries of our time. His only real weakness is his refusal to let other people help him out in the scripting process. If he'd let someone like Goldman or Kasdan take a pass at rewriting Titanic, it would have actually deserved all the awards it got.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 2:19:15 PM CDT

    Yes, Shaggy-G, we do.

    by cash bailey

    Becaause the dipshit who wrote that monstrosity should never, EVER live that shit down. And besides, I giggle like a schoolgirl whenever I write it. Mind you, I think that might say more about me than the moron who wrote that review.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 2:51:36 PM CDT

    Why me why me

    by moron88

    Can this even be true. Not the casting change as much as the plot. If so then this is madness. Is there not one shred of dignity in any of these
    pathetic studio bastards. Does anyone remember a gem from the late 80's called Eve of Destruction? I realize that gem was shat out during the last Bush administration but have we not suffered enough having to re-live the cold war and the return of the recession and a President who has contempt for us and no clue as to what the average one of us goes through in our day to day life.
    One of the few in-expensive escapes we have is that two hours in a theatre hoping to be wowed. Lately that experience has been quite bitter.
    Must we also re-live the same films and plots from that god-awaful Reagan-Bush-1period as well? God help us was not Pearl Harbor being green lit the sign that we were back in the 80's big time (Top Gun). Now we will have T-3 the Eve of Destruction. All I can say is are we not actually beyond the Eve and into the Post destruction phase. Digital Cinema please rescue us? Please democratize the film business and give us a new generation of visionaries. Other wise all we really have is people making copies of the movies they saw as teens which were made by people who were making copies of the movies they saw when they were teens.
    In short are we in for Nothing Nothing but Trouble 2. Ishtar in the Hood. Howard the Duck Rocks On. Was this not the worst year ever so far. How much more can we handle. How much more contempt can they have for us. As one studio exec said,"We green light shit we make shit and the audience will come and eat shit and after the opening weekend our films will all take a shit."

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  • Aug 26, 2001 3:23:58 PM CDT

    moron88

    by mastershake

    I'ts whiney-ass history- revisionist, everybody wins, why can't we get along, no downer endings liberal assholes like you who run hollywood today and are churning out the current stream of mental diarrhea loosely called "movie plots". The next time you bitch about who's to blame for the current crap-fest coming out of hollywood, look in a mirror.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 3:47:03 PM CDT

    Seth Green is like 5'7"

    by filmjester

    He is in Toyfare a lot.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 3:52:47 PM CDT

    ROLE OF FURLONG'S SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH THAT DUDE WHO PLAYS A

    by sierramountain

  • Aug 26, 2001 3:57:14 PM CDT

    OR..... THE... SHERMANATOR

    by sierramountain

    A SOPHISTICATED SEX ROBOT SENT BACK TO TIME TO CHANGE THE FUTURE FOR ONE LUCKY LADY... THAT'S RIGHT NADIA, YOU'VE TARGETED... FOR SHERMANATION

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  • ...'cause T3 will be awful. I'm so with AntiFonz on this one. By the way, are you all being good boys and girls and watching my namesake kick lowlife ass every Monday night when TNT reruns "Crime Story?" Just checking.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 4:52:06 PM CDT

    I can't wait till this fucker comes out so that it can FLOP! FLO

    by foreskin_jones

    Maybe then Schwarzenegger will get a clue and stop making movies. I used to like Ahnuld's movies I really did but the post TRUE LIES Schwarzenegger was given to many opportunities by yours truly. I had to sit through ERASER, JINGLE ALL THE WAY (The only relieving factor was Phil Hartman may he rest in peace), BATMAN AND ROBIN, END OF DAYS and THE SIXTH DAY, 5 count them 5 pieces of shit and the doofus still gets paid $20 Million dollars which he can't even make back for the studio just because he once was a Box Office Draw. Yet people like Jeffry Combs and John Malkovich don't get used in many movies at all. Even if he makes "King Conan" I still won't see it in a theater. With "Star Wars II" and "Spider-Man" coming out next summer does anybody really think this will be successful? let alone make half of it's cost back? it's really sad when a Stallone or Schwarzenegger and to a lesser extent Van Dammage make sequels to their only true breakthrough hits I:e

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  • Aug 26, 2001 5:13:47 PM CDT

    niche-picker

    by moron88

    Oh please you take my rant to mean I'm a liberal. I'm a compassionate-anarchist-and I happen to worship the last unused 6-pack of Go-Gurt

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  • Aug 26, 2001 5:36:52 PM CDT

    FURLONG IS TOO ILL TO WORK

    by rainmist

    The studio probably wouldn't even be able to get an insurance bond for him if they wanted to. Furlong needs to take a break from Hollywood for a while and focus on his health. T3 won't be any worse without him.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 5:44:26 PM CDT

    Cameron ripped off Harlan Ellison

    by moa kaka

    I think Terminator was a great story . . . HOWEVER, Harlan Ellison sued (and WON!) Cameron for ripping off several of his teleplays for "The Outer Limits." SO, to all of you who say James Cameron is a great writer, what you really mean to say is Harlan Ellison is a great writer.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:18:40 PM CDT

    damn...

    by jesushadanuzi

    What's goin on. I'd heard of this movie a while ago at upcomingmovies, but it was labeled as "in development." I prayed it wouldn't take off and dismissed it there. When is this sequel-mania going to fade out? I'm truly afraid of the movie business's future. This movie has none of the original essentials to get that wonderful Terminator alure, besides Ahhnold I guess. I'm afraid good ol' Hollywood is officially outta ideas now. If a movie does well, make it all over again but not as good! I'll pray this movie doesn't blow as bad as it sounds, along with my prayer for Goonies 2. Oh, Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back was hilarious.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:41:40 PM CDT

    Seth Green and Ed Furlong are BOTH too good for this crap.

    by elgyn6655321

    After "American History X" Furlong shouldn`t have to wade knee-deep in crap like "T3". And Seth Green is cool, I even liked him back in the day when he had long hair and starred in crap like "Airborne" (remember, that rollarblading movie). I think they should BOTH pass.

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  • Aug 26, 2001 6:41:48 PM CDT

    Yah Seth Green he murderizes me in dis moofie, he tears my limbs

    by regis travolta

    Dat's da new plot by Jonashin Moshcow he vunts Seth to be da new Tuhminatoh for da new audience who lofs Seth from dose Aushtin Powerzz moofies. So I die dis time and Seth playz John Connor hero of da future robot wars. But don't worry, I'll be back. Hasta la vista Harry!

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  • Is Terminator 3 going to be a rip-off of the 1987 anime Black Magic M-66, as someone else suggested? Geez, no one could have got an idea for a female android independently of watching the Black Magic M-66 anime. (Hello, Fritz Lang?) For any anime fan who would make this suggestion (and I'm not picking on any fan in particular, I'm sure other anime fan will follow with the same suggestion) I wouldn't go there if I were you; you'll probably end up looking as foolish as the people who confidently declared that Disney's Atlantis: The Lost Empire was a rip-off of the anime series Nadia & the Secret of Blue Water (a.k.a. Nadia & the Sea of Mystery) before they actually saw the film and realized that they were suckered by a couple of misleading one-on-one comparison charts with slicky written parallel sentences.________________________Yes, I have seen the Black Magic M-66 anime myself, and did notice the similarities to the Terminator, which had been released 3 years before BM M-66. I know that the anime was based on a manga by Shirow, but I'm not sure whether the manga predates the original Terminator film, and even if it did, the chances that James Cameron would have read the manga prior to writing the Terminator would be infinitesimal. (I know that Cameron has seen some anime in the time since the Terminator was made (he's quoted in the publicity for Blood), but in 1983, when he was writing the Terminator, domestic (North American) anime and manga fandom was virtually nonexistant.) Anyhow, I'm sure pretty muach every Terminator fan has wondered whether or not there are female Terminators (well, they had them in the Dark Horse spin-off comics, but I never thought of those as canonical), with or without having even seen Black Magic M-66, or any other similarly themed anime. _______________________ A female Terminator would be supersweet, especially if it were played by someone along the lines of Jeri Ryan, Claudia Christiensen, Lucy Liu, Halle Berry, Michelle Yeoh, Zhang Ziyi, or especially Andromeda and YTV's Video and Arcade Top 10's super sweetheart Lexa Doig.
    ________________________________
    Steve Brandon Kiyone_Mabi@galaxypolice.com

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:36:22 PM CDT

    The Novel "T2: Infiltrator" Would make a GREAT film!

    by cinemaphile

    Anyone else read "T2: Infiltrator"? It's a great story, picks up virtually right where T2 left off, and stays very true to the movies' characters and style. I, for one, think it would make a GREAT film and hope smeone out there in Hollywood thinks to take a look at it!

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:37:02 PM CDT

    No James Cameron = No Me. And many other people as well.

    by tall_boy

    Its that simple, pretty much. . .

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  • Aug 26, 2001 8:41:19 PM CDT

    Macaulay Culkin

    by kiyone

    Epitone: Macaulay Culkin is quite busy these days, but on stage, not in movies. Recently he starred as a 15 year old in love with his teacher in Richard Nelson's MADAME MELVILLE at the Vaudeville theatre in London's West End and later on Broadway in New York. My brother was lucky enough to see the production, and he (surprisingly) thought Culkin's performance was wonderful. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_979000/979421.stm
    According to www.CulkinOnline.com , Macaulay is considering playing a "homicidal club kid" in a film called Disco Blood Bath. I'd have to say, I'd agree that Culkin would be a better choice as John Connor than Seth Green (no offense to Seth Green, but if Culkin dyed his hair, he'd pretty much look the part). I passed by Eddie Furlong one night in summer 1993 at a Provigo supermarket in downtown Montreal (when he was in town filming Brainscan), and he seemed like 100% Prime Grade-A asshole, but I just might have caught him on a bad night. (I didn't say anything to him, but other people recognized him, and he treated them coldly.) I would've thought that they'd try to work Furlong into this one regardless, as, for some unfathonable reason, he's really popular with the ladies in Japan.__________________________
    Steve Brandon
    Kiyone_Mabi@galaxypolice.com

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  • Aug 26, 2001 9:48:19 PM CDT

    Total Bullshit

    by deanwormer

    Seth Green will not be the new John Connor, cause no audience would buy that, kinda like audiences won't buy Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan(the alcoholic). I didn't realize Furlong was some great thespian, but throw his ass in T3 just for continuity's sake. Let him hit the weights to improve on his sissy physique. As the Rev. Jackson would say, "the point is moot", as this turkey is taking the elevator all the way down.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 1:34:40 AM CDT

    No offense ladies!

    by attackingclone

    BUT like in tomb raider and charlies angels(movie) i just cant take women beating the crap out of 10 men at a time seriously, except buffy of course. however the fact that she would be a terminator might make it a bit better. in my opinion get furlong, arnold, and maybe someone like lil bow wow. jus kiddin'. maybe ice-cube or some big ass rapper who just yells explecitives everywhere. nah maybe ving rhames or that big dude from x-files and buffy or just some guy who is awesome at martial arts and have him fight like that

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  • Aug 27, 2001 4:49:02 AM CDT

    Some Guidlines to be Followed in Creating a Terminator 3.

    by gandalf the grey

    THINGS NEEDED(AND NOT NEEDED) TO MAKE THIS MOVIE A SUCCESS IN MY OPINION
    1.NO MORE T800, they are antiquated, they have appeared already in 2 movies, and Arnold could only appear as a T800 in T3, so no Arnold, harsh, but necessary, I wouldnt mind a supporting role(nothing against Arnold) 2. ABSOLUTELY NO FEMALE TERMINATORS 3. No ROMANTIC SUB PLOTS 4. Arnold has been the only actor in Terminator that was/is a Bodybuiler, the series isnt, to popular opinion, a bunch of exclusively MASSIVE bastards beating/shooting the shit out of each other, that said, all actors should be cut and built to give some visual reality to the events that are undertaken (ie-Seth Green is more of a hobbit, Furlong isnt that big either but he has the presence to accomplise this-to a point) 5. No Chracters to be added for the purposes of humour (ie.a Chris Tucker in Rush Hour) 6. There should not be any Pop Stars/ Wrestling Stars Present in the films (ie. Britney Spears/ Morrisettes/ The Rock, Chyna, Aaliyah-I know, bad taste I appologize) especially those who exist only to be featured on a soundtrack 7. Choose the soundtrack carefully, please, remember the feel of the other 2 films, ABSOLUTELY NO ROCK/POP/METAL(ie. no commercially sold forms of appeal music, stay with the current of the film, even if it reduces record sales)ex of such a soundtrack described would be the MI2 album(although it did suit this movie) . 8. No generic action sequences/plot (ie. 2 terminators GOOD/BAD, destroy the terminator, etc, what I mean is, something new, provide some new purpose to the action genre, after all, Terminator is the leader in this genre, dont let it become nothing . Ultimately, just dont make a repeat of T2 with different actors,(ie. Home Alone 1,2 and 3) 9. Take time in the film to further explore the future consequences of inaction, provide an insight as to how the future is after the supposeded destruction/reconstruction of Skynet, basically, provide further information on the environment, (ie, Sarah Connor, etc) 10. Oh yeah, if future battle scenes do exist in Terminator 3, there is this 1 kid which I truly believe is worthy breaking my above "MASSIVE BASTARD" rule. It is this kid called Little Hercules, he is a fucken animal, he is the most built 7-8 year old I have ever seen, he is a fucking midget T800, I am serious, I believe he would mould perfectly as a kid in the future Robot Wars. With Some Commandments that I believe should be followed, of course, it need not be respected by everyone, and I may even change my mind through argument and shit, but I think these rules should be followed
    Gandalf the Grey......

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  • Aug 27, 2001 4:53:51 AM CDT

    no subject

    by gandalf the grey

    Oh yeah, and I would rather their be no 1 line catch phrases, let us put these things behind us.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 5:54:18 AM CDT

    T3 should be set in the FUTURE!!!!!!

    by dlr

    I think the new Terminator film should be set in the future, during the war against the machines. It would be incredible to see all kinds of amazing looking terminator's and how they fight. Although that would probably cost at least $300 million big ones to even put it on the screen.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 8:01:26 AM CDT

    Seth Green-Great?

    by arcturus

    Many of you have written in and extolled the virtues of Seth Green as an actor. I will say this much about the man-he did a fine job with the ghetto accent in "Can't Hardly Wait", his best work yet; He was pretty damn funny as little bro Chuck in "Can't by me Love" (yes, that was him!); He did alright in "Josie and the Pussycats" with an extended cameo; He gains points in my book for an appearance in "Pump Up the Volume"(Awesome movie); He is servicable and fills space on Buffy; He also gains points for being of similar age and from similar locale as myself. Oh yeah, he was kind of funny in the first Austin Powers. However, these credits do not make him "great" in my book. He's simply lucky enough to know the right people to get plum roles in Hollywood and perform exactly what's required of him, nothing more. It's not a stretch to say he belongs in the same category as Philip Seymour Hoffman, Woody Harrelson, Marky Mark, and of course, Edward Norton. All of these are performers who are relatively mediocre but who have been talked up to the point that they are overrated and tiresome.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 8:50:16 AM CDT

    the story behind the story ( in case you missed it!)

    by rainmist

    T3 didn't sound good before, and it doesn't sound good now. Nothing has changed as far as T3 goes. The real moral of this story is DON'T USE DRUGS! They destroy lives...and within a few years, or less, can turn your whole world upside down.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 11:11:04 AM CDT

    Goldsman a good writer???

    by uscguy-cola

    I shame epitone for suggesting such nonsense! would you suggest he have Arnold repeat the classic line he wrote for him in Batman And Robin--"Let's kick some ICE!"????

    I won't sit through ANY film I know he's scripted.

    As for Spiderman (later post)...the CGI is so shoddy I feel they would have done better to just lay the 60s cartoon footage over a live action sequence. And that preview is beyond awful...bank robbery at closing? spiderweb trap for a helicopter?

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  • Aug 27, 2001 2:20:26 PM CDT

    Anyone remember Seth Green as a stoner on The X-FIles??

    by jmyoda

    It was in the first season episode "Deep Throat". M&S cacth him and his girlfriend sneaking out of a field on a Army Base where they test fly UFOs. They're both like stoned out of thier minds. He was funny in that. I always figured he would make it some day. (Around the same time he starred in a Dorritos commercial.) However HIM as John Conner? That is fucked up. Furlong may be a runt but he has a certain darkness about him that would be cool for the role. If he doesn't do it I agree that Jude Law would be a good pick. The dude is just weird. However if Jim Cameron isn't doing it it's probably gonna suck. Guess he's gotten to big fat a head after "Titanic" (which like Forest Gump was painfully over-rated) that he doesn't want to do sci-fi anymore unless it's producing some crap like "Dark Angel" for TV. Hell Speilberg has 2 Oscars now and he still made A.I. and is doing "Minority Report" as we speak! Oh by the way... Cameron is a great director but he SUCKS as a writer. Want poof? The TITANIC is sinking and Leo says "This is bad"... Give me a break... Might have worked if Kate Winslet looked at him and said "Uhhh no shit Sherlock! Got any other great insight into our situation?"


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  • Aug 27, 2001 2:48:12 PM CDT

    And Furlong would be able to pull off the "badassness"?

    by smeg for brains

    They could have Christopher Lowell play john Conner and he would still be more convincing in the role than Eddie Furlong ever was, or could be. If this film is half as good as T2 it will be twice as bad as that horrible piece of trash.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 2:57:22 PM CDT

    Terminator 3

    by riledman119

    I'm not sold on this one at all. Without JC helming it, I think it will lose alot of direction. Plus I think they should just leave good enough alone. T2 worked as a sci-fi/fantasy but had a lot of loopholes in it, even if it was awesome to watch. T3 might severely highlight those loopholes.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 3:50:42 PM CDT

    A ? FOR MORIARTY! (or whoever else might know)

    by psarevoomorfia

    First, where did Moriarty get his hands on the Teddy Sarafian draft? I realize that working for AICN probably gets him inside connections, so I'll just assume it was one of those, unless he has another explanation. Second, does anyone know if this draft has been posted online, and where?________ Also, in my opinion, Edward Furlong was a REALLY, REALLY annoying little 78-pound pretty boy shit, and totally unbelievable as a great leader. I loved the movie, but he seriously dampened my enjoyment. He should have been written as a quiet weirdo (which realistically he would have been, given his circumstances), not as an in-your-face juvenile delinquent. They should get that scar guy from the first few minutes/alternate ending of T2 to play him in the new movies. I mean why not? Even Seth Green might be pretty cool. Better than that squeaky voiced little bitch Furlong, that's for sure.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 5:00:10 PM CDT

    ??????

    by krinkle

    "Titanic," one of the greatest Hollywood SPECTACLES ever made, was a "crime against humanity?" Are you people from Mars? Do you LIKE movies? Or is it just sarcasm that turns you on?

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  • Aug 27, 2001 5:51:10 PM CDT

    HEY, CAMERON MADE TOM ARNOLD LOOK GOOD

    by movie writer

    Look, James Cameron made Tom Arnold look cool in True Lies. So Seth Green with black hair playing a serious side could be cool. Cameron knows how to cast em. However I don't believe this rumor.

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  • Aug 27, 2001 9:49:01 PM CDT

    What a bad choice!

    by miss_lizzy

    Seth Green as John Conner? That can't work at all because you expect John to be this huge figure, someone that commands respect, that would lead the humans against the terminators, etc. I can't see Seth Green doing that. Besids, Terminator 2 gave us an image of what the adult John Conner looked like, and Seth Green really doesn't look anything like that. Hopefully this is just a rumor. Anyway, that is all I had to say about that. By the way, this is my first post ever on here, and I have been a huge fan for years, so I am excited.

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  • Aug 28, 2001 3:23:51 PM CDT

    general agreement with Gandalf the Grey

    by invisible sun

    Well said.I'm getting gradually less enthusiastic about T3,and have a horrible mental image of it
    as it may end up.

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  • Aug 28, 2001 5:37:49 PM CDT

    female lead roles. no.. not in this movie

    by blah

    If this has a main female lead terminator, the movie will suck. If it has a background female terminator that doesn't have more then 5 minutes of scene time, I can live with that. I might even enjoy that. I was thinking more of the lines of that one guy that played in Saving private ryan. Ummm, the heavier set guy. Don't know his name. Maybe to play as John's right hand man.

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  • Aug 28, 2001 5:41:07 PM CDT

    test

    by lukejk

  • Seriously - there's gotta be a bottom to all this crap. First, Cameron is out, Hamilton is out, and now li'l Furlong is out, too. They might as well get that "with a little more plastic surgery I can look more like a woman" Chynna to be the femme lead. Might as well at this point. Oh, and is THIS why Seth Green left BTVS for? I hope not........

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  • Aug 28, 2001 11:10:17 PM CDT

    Seth Green

    by the iron shiek

    Why the hell don't they just cast Freddy Prinze Jr. as John Conner

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  • Aug 29, 2001 1:21:29 AM CDT

    You know what I loved aout the original Terminator

    by kyle.reese

    We never get to see John Conner directly, he's only spoken of.

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  • Aug 29, 2001 1:53:15 AM CDT

    This was found to be...

    by huneybee

    nothing but a rumor...all that ranting for nothing.____A Raving But Rantless Bee

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  • Aug 29, 2001 6:06:07 AM CDT

    What about That Guy that Played Hasselhoff's son on BAYWATCH be

    by gandalf the grey

    I could picture it, strong, not a fucken animal on steroids,shave his head, add scaring, and bingo, you got a fucken John Conner?, at any rate, a lot better than Seth Green.

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  • Nov 29, 2001 6:51:53 AM CST

    Arnie too old?

    by el_locko

    Does anyone else think that Arnie is now too old to do tis film?.By the time they make he will look nothing like the original terminator. Terminators don't get old.

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