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Wait... A MATRIX 2 Prequel'! But Wouldn't That Be THE MATRIX'!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Before I crash for the night... morning... whatever the hell time it is... I just had to share one last rumor with you. This is a new spy for us here at AICN, and we'll call him Xerxes for the time being. Since he's new, I'm handing out grains of salt to be taken as you read the following, but hopefully he'll pan out and we'll see more from him in the future. I've deleted all his personal info, but he was fairly detailed, and I think he's on the level. For now, he's got a story to tell about a very odd project he just heard about... check this out.
... anyway, he's been trying to get me to move out to DELETED and work for DELETED. While we were talking, he took me aside and let me in on a little secret he heard from a friend at Square. Square, the company that made FINAL FANTASY, is currently working DIRECTLY with the Wachowski Brothers on a
10 minute, totally CGI prequel to Matrix 2 (Reloaded...whatever it's called)
From what I understand, it's meant for some special internet release sometime in 2002 and also to go along with the DVD. He mentioned something about the DVD, but I can't remember the details on that and I don't want to screw that up with speculation.
Call me Xerxes.
I doubt this is being included on the MATRIX REVISITED DVD that we ran a story about yesterday, so maybe it's meant to be included on the actual MATRIX RELOADED disc when it comes out. If it's a prequel, though, then wouldn't they want it out before the next film?
It's all very confusing and odd, and it sounds like we're going to have a whole lot of MATRIX to sort through in the very near future. Sure hope it's all as good as the first film or better.
"Moriarty" out.
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I can buy this the ultimate way to hype the film. A little cutting edge cgi film to bridge the gap between 1 and 2 and wet our appetites and then be a nice little bonus on the dvd. It makes sense, I can see them doing it... Now if this guy would tell whats in it... Maybe its Keanu virtual flossing. By the way what happens if you take a dump in the Matrix? Do they clean the chair on Morpheus ship?
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That Harry is so idignant over the NON-talent hack that is FPJ. Yet on that other non talent hack Keanu Reeves Harry is remarkably silent
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Aug 24, 2001 8:21:23 AM CDT
Hmm. Does that mean we'll be watching The Matrix: Roughnecks on
by samwave
Or The Matrix: Reboot, with that big blue gay guy and his flying convertable.
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Aug 24, 2001 9:57:37 AM CDT
Are the rumors of Bill Cosby taking over the role of Morpheus tr
by lil_timmy
god I hope so. The idea of him and all that kung fu slow mo bullet time shit, it would be 10X better than Fishbirdy. And OH MY GOD!!! ONLY IF THEY COULD GET THEO...possibly replace Neo?!!!!
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Man, that's a good question! Since all you eat is that oatmeal-like goo on the ship, but eat all kinds of 'normal' food in the Matrix, do you think that when you take a dump while your jacked in, you leave a massive turd in the virtual toilet bowl, but just some runs in the chair on the ship? Or since your mind accepts it as real, you produce a turd in the chair that's identical to the one you made in the Matrix? Can someone answer this for me, because I'm gonna lose sleep over this.
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Stuart asked a question about busting the porcelain bowl with a messy Choco-dump in the virtual world compared to the real world. First of all, there need not be any correllation between your dump in the Matrix or out of it. You could be birthing a mountainous rock in the fake world that in no way effected the bald you that floats in the tank. Apparently, if you laid a crap that was so huge that DIED from it in the fake world, you would die from it in the aquarium too.
It's good to know that when I take a diarretic dump in a public juccuzzi that I'm only effecting the fake world... I can also take a dump in a public fountain and it just effects the fake world...
My question is, does Agent Smith take a dump? When Keanue looks at it, does it just appear as a bunch of green numbers? Could Keanu eat agent Smith's dump and just be eating a bunch of green numbers?
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Aug 24, 2001 11:00:34 AM CDT
Hmmm... Xerxes? Xerxes spelled backwards is "Sex Rex" - Rex is
by tequila wyrm
BILL CLINTON!!! That's right! Xerxes = Sex King = BILL CLINTON! I'd wondered what he'd been up to in that new Harlem office of his with all of that free time he has these days. The truth is out! Bill Clinton has a NEW hobby! Finally we can stop hiding our women!
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Aug 24, 2001 11:21:28 AM CDT
What's goin on here? This is the .. 10th (?) new article today .
by talkbacktornado
Anyway. I can buy this. I mean, technically Square is surely THA bomb (when it comes to screenplays ... well BUMMER Sakaguchi!). Good idea! tt out. (tt's entering RELOAD-MODE, 'cause he wants to be 1st! on the 10000th article ...)
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Aug 24, 2001 11:30:49 AM CDT
'Newt' Gingrich to group of young interns: We'd better get back,
by tequila wyrm
...mostly
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Since your body is in the stasis tanks, it is a logical assumption that since your body has intraveneous tubical implants all over for sustenance, that their is also a rectal and penal tube that distributes waste from the body which is probably also converted to energy to power the generators that run the Matrix. So if you think about it, a toilet in the Matrix world acts as an icon like the telephone exits. The toilet icon sends a subconsious psychosematic signal to your brain thereby releasing shit from the body which is carried out through the tubical implants. Now, if you have sex in the Matrix world, do you spoo through the same tube? Probably but I think the semen gets filtered so the Sentinels can grow more humans to power their generators therefore a "Wet Dream" in the Matrix is used as a procreational function for human cloning. From another Banned From AICN Talk Backer.
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You know, the Matrix brothers are taking a big cue from Lucas here. Lets take something that the fans love and are highly receptive to, and use that to manipulate the mindless bastards into wasting all of their money on irrelevant, redundant bullshit. And before anyone says it, no, I am not some whining fan boy. I am fed up and frustrated with this crap. I will go see the movie once, maybe twice. I will buy the DVD because I enjoyed the film. But I will not continue to buy special editions and add ons and extras until I am back to eating beef flavored ramen noodles (or shrimp...but I might try the new creamy chicken). I dont like being raped, unless its by Jennifer Aniston or Robert Loggia.
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well I'm not talking about the people floating in the tanks pooping I'm talking about the renegade Neo types who broadcast in. What happens if Keanu is hit by an urge and takes a dump (or sees Agent Smith and pisses himself) how messy will that chair be? Or do they just avoid taking a dump in the matrix since that guy mouse isn't around to clean it. I wonder if thats part of the lessont hey gave Keanu we didn;t see...don't crap in the Matrix! Or is it something they let newbies find out? I do agree I'd like to see Keanu eat Smiths green numbers and that would really give new meaning to Reloaded. Lastly for the Jessica Alba Trinity correlation and the cartoon being "gay" it really isn;t a shock from a guy who puts down Aliens and Gfather 2 in the same post. Alba is hot and I would slam either one but that bitch can't act her way out of a paper bag. So if you want a quality movie, you want Carry Anne in it. But then again whatever this guy doesn't like is "gay" so I guess a real man only likes chicks like Alba and movies that aren't sequels. Or maybe this guy is a closet case? After all he does have that word on the mind and he no doubt picked Alba cause most geeks on the net agree she is hot. Quit trying to blend in with the rest of the nerds and admit you are a gay sequel loving geek!
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Aug 24, 2001 12:52:21 PM CDT
Well, One has to think fourth dimensionally, as old Doctor Emmet
by lobanhaki
In essence, Matrix could be seen as a prequel to Matrix Reloaded, but that would not preclude anything happening IN BETWEEN the two films.
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On the Matrix Revisted, you'll see one of the cut scenes of Neo pulling a long segmented sewage tube out of his ass. Also, we discover that taking the Red Pill acts as a diuretic and the "Tasy Wheat" pourage is really a laxative. Another cut scene with Morpheus evacuating his bowels while Neo visits the Oracle while she bakes him some cookies revealing just how sewage is disposed of while Morpheus sits and strains in his chair on the Nebudkenezaar. The behind the scenes feature reveals that the Agents are merely constructs that do not require the expolsion of bodily waste.
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"You Don't scare me with your Gestapo Tactics. I know my rights. I want to use the can."
"Tell me Mr. Anderson...How can you go to the John... when you are unable to POOP?"
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This tb folly is all YOUR fault! I'm laughing my ass off (however will I take a dump *ugh* in the Matrix)! I think you just changed the way geekdom will view Reloaded. I know I'll remember it, esp after ebonic plague's pink stasis goo input.____A Bee Beating Her Head Against The Computer Desk And Groaning
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I mean, it's not like Lucas is going to actually explain what the Sith are pissed about...that would be good storytelling. (Chris Farley voice) But anywhooo...(end Farley voice) did you see the Rotten Tomatoes rating for "Summer Catch"? Three fuckin' percent! Nice! What does this mean? It means MANY MORE MONTHS OF US PONDERING WHY THAT VEGETABLE IS GETTING ROLES IN FILMS AND WHY HE'S GETTING BUFFY. Seriously, is there something we're missing here? What if John Hughes circa 1984 came back? Could even he have made a vaguely watchable Freddie Prinze teen movie? (The thought of Freddie Priss corrupting "Sixteen Candles"...ugh...counting to ten...slowly...back...wards...)Anyways, just go see BubbleBoy if "Jay and Internet Teen-Hating Bob Cash In" is sold out.
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Aug 24, 2001 7:14:57 PM CDT
"The Matrix Redux" -- with restored French plantation sequence!
by petros000
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. . .that stories should start at the *beginning,* not the middle or the end. But then that's just crazy ol' me.
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God you guys are making me laugh! Is this for real? Is give or take 80% of the Talkbacks posted here really about what it
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In the next Matrix film Neo has sex while in the matrix and gets a scorching case of SirCam. Yeah I know it
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... Looks like you're "Some jerk"! HAW HAW HAW!
That actually is the best talkback I've ever seen. It had nearly everything you listed, but on a much smaller scale.
The comment about J&SBSB (look for it your damn self) was especially funny. Ironic, yes, and I like it too. (Also, 'Cash In'? The dropped 20 mil on that thing and they'll be lucky to make it all back. There's a glut of silly, stupid, irreverent, derided-by-liberals flicks coming out and Jay is no Jake Gallnylyenlhyhnleal!
I personally am excited about Big Trouble. Read it- it's like Elmore Leonard (LIKE! I said LIKE!) but funnier. Well, funny in a different way.
BTW, look around your screen. Could there be a couple more unflattering caricatures 'round nyah?
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...make make a really kick ass TV series with all the computerized actors and FX that are left over....but with a different scriptwriter....
That would get people really psyched for a FF-II film and also get Square really rolling as a fully functioning CG studio. It could easily rival Star Trek if it retained it's contemporary edge and stylization. -
Dumping issues aside, do any of you good people know the real reason(s) for the halt in production? Are they shitting it because of LOTR, or (heaven forbid) Star Wars: Attack of the Cheese? What is going on? I think it is fair to say that this film is coming apart under its own slowly building hype. where are they actually going to go with this story? The first one worked because it was a nice twist on paranoia, but one cannot drag two more movies from an orignal plot that had more holes than a sieve. It is sad, but I have this awful feeling that apart from LOTR, next year's big movies are going to be big anti-climaxes. Hell, I wanted to love Spiderman, but that trailer left me cold. I hope next years big movies work for the fans, but I think it is a fair bet that The Matrix 2 is going to be one of the bigger disappointments.
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Interesting issues - if we assume the matrix causes a REM-sleep state, then the body is effectively paralyzed. This would be essential to prevent the batteries from hurting themselves as they thrash about in the matrix world. Now, as we are all aware, even in REM the unit is not paralyzed and we get erect many times per night and fire from time to time. So I'd think the batteries get hard-ons from time to time. Having a foley cath in during a stiffy would, to put it mildly, suck. Further, a foley goes in the bladder, so that wouldn't help much in clearing out the spooge. I think the robots must condom cath the batteries. But those tend to leak and slip off, so you've still got a problem. As far as an intra-anal poop tube, I just don't see that happening - butt ass lazy nurses would have invented it already if it were possible. My guess is the batteries are left unshielded and the goo is just changed out with a nice circulation and filtration system, allowing the poop and spooge to be collected and burned for fuel.
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Well, all this theoretical shit pondering is interesting, but if anyone reads this shit, who a)is no fanboy b)hates talkbackers and c) has a life, we are all doomed to geekdom. I agree with the Devil dude about the shit though, although I doubt I would have thought of that. Well done.
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thats it...i like the matrix
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Never listened to her music (not to my knowledge anyway), but according to Yahoo's latest headlines, she's dead as Dillinger. So much for her character (Zee) in the Matrix. She signed up for BOTH sequels, they're shooting/did shoot (?) them back-to-back, and presumably, she figures heavily into the story. I presume they can't edit and/or write her out. Maybe they'll do a CGI Aaliyah?
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That poor girl. Man... this is.... aw. I never really listened to her music either, and to be honest I wasn't hyped about seeing her in "Matrix 2" and "3", but.... a plane crash? Nobody deserves that. Rest in peace, Aaliyah. Is the Matrix cursed? Clearly.
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I'm more of a rock music kind of guy but every now and then some pop or R&B song seems to triggers somthing in my head and I end up enjoying it. Aaliya was a beautiful woman and a very cool singer and I have been know to enjoy one or 2 of her songs. Very sad news indeed, R.I.P. beautiful Aaliya. Now I don't know who "ColinLR" is, maybe he's some stupid 15 year old smartass kid that doesn't value life and blurts out nonsence just for the shock value or maybe he's just some stupid ass mofo 20 something year old that congrigates around AIC talkback 24 hours a day jacking off to porno websites and has serial killing thoughts in his head, a strait out loser, but from the comments he made above me I'm guessing he's one of these 2. Have some fucking respect for the dead asshole your not Howard Stern and you ain't funny. As for the Matrix, I'm guessing they're going to have to recast and reshoot all her scenes. "Why do they have to die so young? R.I.P. Aaliya."
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That is so sad about Aaliyah. There are some R&B artists out there that aren't in it for the money, or the show, or to be cool, but are talented and try to do it right, and she was one of them. She was so sexy too! Was she finished filming her Matrix 2 scenes? It would be most respectful if they left her in...though I guess that could cause problems for Matrix 3. (shrug)
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Aug 25, 2001 10:55:10 PM CDT
It always takes the death of a celebrity for us to cease bad-mou
by terry_1978
A while back when Aaliyah was cast as the daughter of Morpheus, there were more than a few people who said she couldn't act, etc. Now that she's gone, everyone's all "I wish she I could have seen her in the Matrix sequels". The lady should have had the freaking support when she was alive.
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its so obvious when you think about it now....starwars.com just updated Mon Mothma's profile and it says that she was a Senator during the Clone Wars (which we know Amidala was) and that she fought alongside Obi Wan and Anakin. it also says that she disagreed with Chancellor Palpatine and stayed a Senator until the Old Republic was dismantled, and then started the Old Republic. Its so obvious now that you think about it....she was always there watching over Luke and Leia but could never reveal herself as their mother in fear of having them caught by the Empire. At the end of Ep 3 Amidala must give her children away to keep them protected, change her identity to Mon Mothma and begin starting to form the Rebel Alliance.
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Aug 25, 2001 11:40:13 PM CDT
Aaliyah Has Moved On, May She R.I.P 1979-2001 A Terriable Los
by the founder
This is truly sad news, she was one of the best up and coming young entertainers of our generation. I live in Miami and had heard the story on the local radio station before it went nation wide, and had prayed it was false information, but sadly it turned out to be true. According to CNN Aaliyah was in the Bahammas filming a music video. She and the film crew were flying back to Miami, and according to sources at the airpot in the Bahammas the charter plane was to heavy with the crew's luggage and equipment, and the pilot even complained about the load, and the plane crashed shortly after take off. I just don't understand why in the world would the pilot even take a risk of this nature? I don't know if any of you know Dave Meyers,(I like his work) but he's a video director, and works with a lot of artists on their videos, and he was the one shooting her video, and I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he was aboard the plane? I wasn't a fan of her music, but I have enjoyed a song or two from her, and I really did like her.*****Carouselambra: You are right on the money, and I agree that she was one of the few artists that wasn't in the business just for the money, and fame. I saw her in an interview, and she was saying how her style of music wasn't as popular as some of the other artists, but she stuck to it because this is the kind of music she enjoyed doing, and what her fanbase liked, and the main reason she didn't change her style was do to them. I will honestly miss Aaliyah
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Aug 25, 2001 11:50:10 PM CDT
Aaliyah was a talented young lady,... regardless of what others
by psyclops
Not everyone can make the transition from pop vocalist to movie star and Aaliyah was one of the few out there who seemed destined for big screen stardom. She was young, sexy and had a wonderful screen presence (was I the only one who enjoyed her performance in 'Romeo Must Die'?). I'll be honest and say that I don't consider myself a fan of her music but I can respect what she had accomplished and the fact that her promising future was cut short makes this tragedy all the more painful.
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ColinLR a statement of that nature is uncalled for, and very insensitive of you. I won't stoop to your level and insult you, but I will say that you need more of God in your life. People please don't make a joke of this situtation, and please keep snide comments to yourselves. If you didn't like Aaliyah for whatever reasons, just keep them to yourselves please, you never know, someone who knew her or could have been related to her may come to this site, and they don't need to come hear and read something negative. Have respect for people's fealings. I thought she was decent in RMD, and I will be honest and say I wasn't completly sold on how well she would do in the Matrix sequels, but I never bashed her, and was willing to give her a chance. As I recall when it was reported that she was going to be in the sequels some of people posted nasty comments, and some went as far as to say I hope somthing goes wrong so she won't be in this movie, well to those people it looks like you got your wish.
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ONCE, just once , I would dearly love to see the normally bitter and mean spirited nature of talkbacks disappear, as people take in the news about ALIYAH'S death.she was a great entertainer who died a horrific death.please let's all show a little respect.so far the only person to step out of line was that COLIN idiot.don't bash the poor girl now just to be controversial or a comedian.restore my faith in human nature and maybe a bit of faith in talkbackers.or was KEVIN SMITH right about us? if you have nothing positive to say about her, say nothing.
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Personally, I think he asks a pretty good question. Where do they go from here? Why is it every time even a faux celebrity dies, we must take the time to remember them? Jack Lemmon--sure, it's okay to be saddened, Aaliyah--hmm, probably not, unless her music spoke to you on some profound level, which I doubt applies to any of the people in this talkback. The death of a celebrity only reminds us of our own mortality, simple as that. Frankly, Colin, myself, or anybody else in here could pass away, and nobody would give two licks. Sorry for her family, but, life goes on, and they'll be living better lives than 99% of the population.
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To all those who suddenly think I'm sociopathic and/or psychopathic for posting about Aaliyah in the manner I did: I meant no disrespect to the memory of the actress/singer. I certainly wish that she will rest in peace. When I read the news, the immediate association in my mind was to "Romeo Must Die" and the Matrix sequels. Since she's in II and III, I thought, she must factor (to some major degree)into the story, and thus, how are the Matrix sequels going to manage w/o her. I did not think what I was writing was "bashing." If anything, I am guilty of being insensitive, and for that I apologize. It is insensitive to talk about the compromises that must be made, movie-wise, when someone passes away, so sadly and senselessly as Aaliyah's death. To which: I apologize. I did not mean to offend.
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Moriarty, you may want to alter the line "Before I crash for the night" in reference to this film and/or its stars...
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This string of talkbacks has been the best read in a long while! Also, while I didn't like her music, sorry to see Aaliyah go.
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Hey guys sorry I forgot to finish my list yesterday but I was nowhere near a computer. I really think to finish it now would be in bad taste and the fact is the rest on the list isn
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I hope this little "prequel" doesn't suck as bad as SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE.
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