Aug. 20, 2001, 6:16 a.m. CST
I like The Sopranos, The Practice, Boston Public, Ed, and a few others, but Six Feet Under... I think I love. The writing for this show is amazing and the characters are some of the best I have ever seen. In fact, Six Feet Under could end up becomming one of the greatest dramas to ever grace the small screen. Siz Feet Under is brave, bold, and original. It pulls no punches and deals with issues that people face every day. Oh, and I am so glad that it's on HBO, becasue they won't f*ck it up next season. HBO will let Ball do what he pleases and that pleases me. I am just sad that the first season's run is over so soon. I do hope that they don't take too long to get season two on the air. And oh, its kind of a shame that Six Feet Under debuted after the Emmy deadline, as it just might have won Best Drama. I am afraid that the first season will be forgotten come nomination time next year.
Aug. 20, 2001, 6:44 a.m. CST
I haven't missed a minute of this series so far, and I hope I never will. Moriarty summed it up perfectly- you can and will give a shit about these people. You will sometimes have to remind yourself that it's only a story when things get so real and so awful that you don't want to handle it....
Aug. 20, 2001, 7:31 a.m. CST
A very insightful analysis, from my favorite megalomaniacal mad genius. While I know that comparisons between SFU and the Sopranos are, by now, trite
Aug. 20, 2001, 8:35 a.m. CST
Despite its stellar first season, THE SOPRANOS (IMO) is already showing signs of OZism -- a series spiraling out of control, losing all sense of logic and reality as HBO demands more and more outlandish and bizarre twists and turns to maintain shock value and "new"ness. (Hey, #1 Pay Channel! Just cuz you CAN do pretty much anything without censorship or backlash doesn't mean you should!) SIX FEET UNDER, on the other hand -- while still being new and unique and often as shocking as anything ever shown on television -- maintains a dignity and grace that is almost completely absent anywhere else on the Tube of Boobs. This show has moved me to tears a couple times now (most recently when Rico's wife delivered and he realized his baby was healthy, and again when Nate cracked a bit following David's thank-you at the end of the season finale) and it never ceases to stun me, smack me and thrill me with its devotion to characters, to realistic behavior, to intelligent storylines... to LIFE. The whole thing was so beautifully summed up by Nate: "Death is the thing that makes life important." Bravo to a magnificent new series, and here's hoping Alan Ball can fly in the face of HBO and keep his series grounded in logic and reality in its sophomore season. It can't get here soon enough. Emmys all around!!
Aug. 20, 2001, 8:58 a.m. CST
by The Alienist
I really like "Six Feet Under". I might, at times, love it. But I'm always aware that it's an HBO drama, therefore, presumed better than a network show. What I mean is...when a bad premium cable show is bad, it's acknowledged as such. But when it's good--it seems to be perceived as being the best fucking thing on television EVER!! I know, it's "Sopranos"-damage. But that's not fair. "Sopranos" uses the adult medium of a pay cable channel to create something different than your usual network show. I don't mean the swearing or the naked tits at The Bing or (in "Six"'s case) David butt-fucking a hustler in a parking lot. The very conceit of "The Sopranos" is almost movie-like, a continuing drama that actually dares us to get attached to basically unlikable protagonists. The writing, the acting, the direction of "Six Feet Under" is at times wonderful. But never as cosistantly good as "Once And Again", the ABC family drama all current family dramas have to now be measured against. It's detractors call it a "Woman's Show". Huh? I won't even go to that particular misogynistic place. But to my point, "Six" is no better than "Once". Not as good even. "Six" can show things and deal with things that "Once" can't or chooses not to. And that should, of course, color some people's preferences. But no way is "Six" better (meaning the best show on TV other than "Sopranos"). I could go into how much more defined the adults are on "Once", how more fluid and real the teens are (though I love Lauren Ambrose and her Claire more than life itself). But I won't. It's just so obvious I don't really have to. Yes, I can see how many prefer "Six". And it is sometimes wonderful. But just because it's on cable and can use the word "fuck" doesn't automatically make it better than the best network-type shows.
Aug. 20, 2001, 9:04 a.m. CST
I mean think about it. Sooner or later you are gonna die. And before you do, 2 or 3 people whom you can't imagine living without are gonna die. We all know this, it's like this big pink elephant in the middle of the room that we're all pretending ain't there. And I think Claire's whole conversation with her counselor about how her family deals with death, and how that becomes the way they deal with all emotions, that's the center of the show right there. Because its really just an exxageration of how we all deal with death. I loved that episode where Brenda was taking...um...the guy (I'm awful with names) around to funeral homes pretending to be customers. When Brenda started doing that cancer routine, I just cracked up. Its a subject that's so fucked up the only way to aproach it is as comedy. The funniest show on TV. >>> Btw, I loved the Sopranos finale. Didn't you think it was cool that they totaly ditched the whole formula of having life divided into neat little story arcs that all pay off at the same time?
Aug. 20, 2001, 9:39 a.m. CST
Everyone go read THE LOVED ONE by Evelyn Waugh - especially you, Moriarty - and then tell me how original you think this series is. SIX FEET UNDER's entire comic/tragic tone, specific satire and setting are lifted directly from this short, piercing novella. Sigh.
Aug. 20, 2001, 10:28 a.m. CST
The first season of Six Feet Under was considerably better than the 3rd season of The Sopranos. With The Sopranos, it felt like you were always waiting for the other shoe to drop, that something was missing. And I'm not talking about the rampant violence absent from season 3, but the fact the story didn't really go many places, it left me with a feeling of dissapointment. Sure, a few story lines moved forward, but it felt like I was watching a bunch of B-Plots develop while the greater whole somehow stagnated. The focus of season 3 was different than the previous two, but they never really pulled it off. I think it is comparable to the horrid season 5 of Babylon 5 where every week you told yourself that *next* week you would see things start to move forward. But they never did. Six Feet Under was able to sustain the story without relying on huge, dramatic, blow-ups (if you will excuse the pun) and leave you feeling satisifed while failing to tie up every little thread at the end of the hour like some cheap network sitcom would.
Aug. 20, 2001, 10:34 a.m. CST
Got it on tape, in fact. It's a favorite of mine. Now, again, I haven't read Waugh's story, but based on seeing the film, your accusation is completely off base. There are some similarities in tone and subject matter, but 6'U is an entirely different creature.
Aug. 20, 2001, 11:02 a.m. CST
by Ice Tray
Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, Larry Sanders.....granted HBO produces a lot of amazing shows, but everyone here seems to be forgeting about the best show of them all...and its not even on HBO, i'm of course talking about The West Wing, which is like watching a movie every week. What Sorkin writes for each episode is more thought out and better acted than anything HBO has ever produced. WEST WING is the best show on television, so stop kissing HBO's ass because they are allowed to swear and show tits, if you want that, go rent a porno, but if you want great television, watch the West Wing. OH and if Sopranos wins best show, it will be a horrible mistake.
Aug. 20, 2001, 11:32 a.m. CST
The way the Talk Backs are going, we seem to be comparing Six Feet Under to the Sopranos, which I'm not sure is fair because they're two completely different animals. But what the hell, I'm going to do it anyway. For me, it came down to how I felt after watching each episode and how I felt after each series' complete 13-week run. More often than not, The Sopranos in its third season left me feeling empty. Unsatisfied. Like I'd missed something or something else was supposed to happen. Each episode and the series itself, felt like it was missing a third act. There were exceptions like the episode in which Dr. Melfi was raped, which was as powerful as anything that has been on television, but all in all I found the third year of the Sopranos lacking. It's like David Chase said "Fuck closure!" and just ended each episode however he damn well pleased. Some people may prefer that style of storytelling. After all, how many times does real life provide us with closure? Six Feet Under, on the other hand, was just as gripping as The Sopranos and, both along the way and in the end, more satisfying. There was an end to the journey of the characters. Points were made about life and death that could be thought about and talked about. The show almost never left me intellectually or emotionally hanging. There were times when I had to suspend disbelief more than others (Billy snapping the photos in the hotel room without Nate and Brenda knowing...almost anytime any character would drive anywhere...honestly, is it that difficult to take the actors out on the road for real and ditch the fake sitcom backgrounds which always jarred me back into the realization that I was watching a show?) but all in all, Six Feet Under sucked me into its world and left me without having felt cheated to have cared about the characters. Too often with both television and movies these days, you get the feeling that respect for the audience is a thing of the past. I felt like Alan Ball respected the hour I gave him each week and rewarded me for it rather than trying to sucker me into giving him my 8 bucks (or in this case an HBO subscription). Best show on TV? As much as I love West Wing, Buffy, Angel, Ed and Once & Again, I'd have to say yes. -- Sean
Aug. 20, 2001, 11:43 a.m. CST
I think HBO may owe me a fee- I have turned many a person on to SFU. Dragged them kicking and screaming but once that take it in they, like myself, really start to enjoy one of the better shows on TV (and they are very few of those). Bravo to the SFU team on the final two episodes- the 1st being nicely dark and serious and the 2nd being strangely upbeat and "quirky". While the show sometimes has a hard time finding a decent middle ground with the real dark and depressing episodes and the lighter moments it has enough of the decent stories, good direction, and nice acting to make up for it. Nice Job Moriarity- makes up for giving JP3 a good review= ugh ! :) MTFBWY! Aj :P
Aug. 20, 2001, 1:53 p.m. CST
I've been hooked on 6FU for 3 months and the characters are what will have kept me coming back. David is a newfangled George Bailey for our generation, left behind to take care of the shop, slightly self hating but in love with God and determined to do the right thing. And Nate, the prodigal son who returns home just in time to get drafted into the family biz, dragged into a career and a romance kicking and screaming, but still determined to do the right thing, too. I love these two guys. ** When Nate stood there at the end, smiling at his flock like Tony Soprano, I felt his peace, and I felt SO satisfied by the relationships I've had with these people, and the way I've seen them grow this pasrt summer. When has a tv show been this fuckn good? Twin Peaks maybe? I'm very pleased that a second season has been ordered up, and I'll be there with bells on. Emmys all round!! Fuck the West Wing and the Sopranos and all that shit! (P.S. fuck 30something, too!!!)
Aug. 20, 2001, 2:45 p.m. CST
by Immortal Alice
Wow! I've been glued to this show since it's first episode, and SINCE that first episode I haven't noticed a thing about it on AICN!! What gives? SFU is easily the best show on cable and second only to Buffy on my must see list, but each week I see Talk-Backs about virtually every other show on TV. I mean, we are REALLY grasping at straws when a James Marsters appearence on the VH1 Outer Limits rip off merits a headline! Cheers to Moriarty for a well done review of the season, but jeers to AICN for not celebrating this wonderfully quirky series with the same aplomb they would attribute to a Babylon 5 reunion special.
Aug. 20, 2001, 4:14 p.m. CST
Along with the opening death scene, I always look forward to the dead talking to David and the Father still having conversations with everyone. Everyone is shocked to see him standing there but then they seem like "oh it's you, my deceased father/husband" as he comments on their life. It's strange how every member of the family sees him seperately, no one talks about it, and they just takje it in stride like it's a perfectly natural situation. I know it's symbolic of them imagining what he'd say in each situation, but it's not portrayed that way. The look of surprise on their faces says, it's really happening.
Aug. 20, 2001, 5:15 p.m. CST
I got hooked on Six Feet Under the day I got HBO -- the same Saturday they ran the marathon of the first four episodes. I'm not a fan of American Beauty, so I went in a skeptic; but I emerged feeling perhaps Alan Ball isn't so overrated, after all. Today, I can say the SFU is one of my favorite shows on TV. Ever. I love the actors, the characters, the plots, fantasy sequences -- the list goes on. BUT...as the season wrapped up, I began to get a nagging feeling of annoyance -- the same feeling I had at the end of American Beauty. The writing became smug. Characters would act and react in their particular ways, then explain their motivations, ad nauseum. This was especially true of the season's final hour, written and directed by Mr. Ball. I hope that as they ramp up for season II, Ball and his team realize they don't have to patronize their audience (especially this audience) by spoon-feeding us the themes and political agendas -- many of which are disappointingly facile (i.e. bashing the Catholic church -- yawn). Let the characters be themselves -- not explain themselves. Trust us, please. We get it.
Aug. 20, 2001, 7:37 p.m. CST
Yeah, well, I've not seen the show, so I could be wrong. But refering to someone (Nate) as "prodigal" simply because he left the family business is a misnomer. Prodigal means one who is rashly or wastefully extravagant, and has nothing to do with being a family's black sheep. Anyway, that's my nit pick.
Aug. 20, 2001, 8:36 p.m. CST
When I first heard about the show before it started, I couldn't wait to see it. On one hand, being a licensed mortician I was concerned the show was going to be hokey or put the profession in a bad light.... on the other, I was interested in how they would deal with the subject matter and give others a small glimpse of what it is we do in funeral service. For the most part, the show has been fairly accurate. It's easy for those of us in the profession to pick it apart and say of a certain scene or situation, "There's no way they would do that." Some things I chalk up to "Well, maybe that's how they would do (whatever) in L.A." Regarding the cast, they're all great, especially Peter Krause. Overall, it's been a trip going into work on Mondays and talking about the previous night's show. Can't wait for Season 2....
Aug. 21, 2001, 5:22 a.m. CST
... isn't just that he comes and talks with different members of the family -- he provides a great mirror into themselves. I don't think they're so much imagining what HE HIMSELF would actually say to them (an idea borne out by the cold-hearted way he told Claire "he'll be coming over to my side pretty soon" in the finale). He provides a means for them to talk to THEMSELVES -- the things he says are most likely reflections of their own feelings, their own uncertainties -- played out as dialogue through his presence. I love his appearances, and wish they'd use more of him. The brief glimpses into his past life with Ruth and the kids is also fascinating. Richard Jenkins remains a great character actor! Go, father of LITTLE NIKITA, go! ;)
Aug. 21, 2001, 6:06 a.m. CST
The beauty of the HBO series is not just in the fact that they can say fuck and get away with it, it's the fact that they can deal with any subject material they want, and not have to answer to any sponsors who are afraid it might alienate some consumers. Auntonomy baby. Real art. That's what has made "The Sopranos", "Sex and the City", "The Larry Sanders Show", "Mr. Show", and "Dennis Miller Live" consistently some of the best TV on TV. And plus, it's a really nice break from having to sit through 15 minutes of commercials for every hour of programming. Oh, and "Six Feet Under" gets my vote for the best of the lot.
Aug. 21, 2001, 6:41 a.m. CST
hey! Just read your review of the first season of Six Feet Under! I agree with you completely! I find this show to be SO well written, The intelligence factor here is way above average, and the cast of characters are addicting!! I , like You, am really looking forward to the next season of this really cool show! Thanks, Donna
Aug. 21, 2001, 12:28 p.m. CST
Network TV has the potential to be really good if it weren't for censorship, advertising and ratings. HBO makes the same amount of money on a show regardless of how many people watch it. I think HBO's revenues have probably increased since they started producing really top knotch original programming, in so far as people who didn't have HBO subscribing for that very reason. I might lead a sheltered upper-middle class suburban existence but in my group of friends most of them had HBO, and these are the kind of people that the shows are aimed at, I think. I think the reason a particular show might get shitcanned is if people flat out hate it and then it's taking up a time slot that could be filled by a new breakout hit. I agree with those saying Peter Krause really steals the show, as he relentlessly kicks ass from episode to episode and often just blows his opposite actors right off the screen. As for Alan Ball and the American Beauty thing, I liked it when it first came out, still like it today, but agree the saving grace of that flick was Sam Mendes powerful direction. He elevated what was just a good script into something really masterful, despite those who say otherwise. It wasn't the best picture of 99, nearly everyone agrees with that, and I'm still angry that Fight Club was completely snubbed that year. Six Feet Under really made up for the disappointing third season of the Sopranos, which carried on too many useless plot lines and had only two or three episodes I felt were on a par with the previous two seasons. I hope that Six Feet Under has a long and distinguished run, and that they keep bringing in the really talented writers and directors to do the show. Also, on Dennis Miller Live I remember Alan Ball saying that they were waiting for the second season to delve into the concept of necrophilia. Fun stuff coming up!
Aug. 21, 2001, 5:45 p.m. CST
by Sara Goldfarb
You are wise beyond your years.
Aug. 21, 2001, 9:05 p.m. CST
To continue the West Wing vs. SFU thread, it seems to me that a few key elements have gone unexplored. First off I have to say that what grabs me most isn't just the number of great shows on HBO, but the unbelievable percentage of their total shows that achieve such high quality. Consider that the network currently airs only eight original non-sports/news programs (SFU, Sopranos, Oz, Sex and the City, Dennis Miller Live, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Arli$$, and the upcoming Mind Of A Married Man). Of these only one is a total stinker (I won't name names, but lets just say that it rhymes with "Barless"), and two of them are favorites to take home an Emmy this year. Can you even imagine NBC or another one of the nets having that kind of success rate. While it can be pointed out that the nets have to fill up a set number of time slots, where as HBO can pick and choose when to air a new show, compare the HBO line up to the limited air time that WB aand UPN had to fill when they began. Even the worst that HBO has to offer beats the Hell out of Homeboys in Outer Space or Savanah. As far as the continued assertion that HBO's edge is its ability to swear and show tits, there are two obvious pincushions to burst that balloon. First is a little pay cable network that goes by the name of Showtime. The same lack of censorship and freedom from advertisers apply there. And yet in the four or five years that they have been putting out original programing the only show can be considered even moderately succesful is Stargate SG1. Secondly, the amount of nudity in SFU is probably lower than an average season of NYPD Blue. The only scenes that I can think of that would be clearly cut by a network thought nazi were the porno queen's boobs when she gets fried in her tub, and David's lap dance/cowboy ride in Vegas, hardly a rehash of the Red Shoe Diaries. While I personally think that West Wing is just slightly better tha SFU and the Sopranos, try finding a broadcast network that has as many good show as HBO. Compare HBO's four best shows to NBC's or CBS's. Its not even a close race. For every Buffy there's a Nikki, for every Ed there's a Jesse. And for every Once & Again there's a Dharma & Greg. Now if they'd just stop showing Battlefield Earth so damn much.
Aug. 22, 2001, 3:01 a.m. CST
The reason why viewers and reviewers are so superlative in their praise of HBO shows is because of the stunning amount of predigested, prefab crap that's on the networks and basic cable. It can't help but make HBO fare look stunning in comparison. For once, though, and as much as I love Sopranos and Sex And the City, Six Feet Under deserves all the praise it's getting and more. It has to be one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life, and continues to shock and amaze me with it's subtlety, grace, and ironic humor. I cannot understand the comparison to Once And Again - I tried very hard to watch that show and was bored to tears, and I wanted to like it because I worship Sela Ward and love that she's getting success, but honestly, it put me to sleep. The closest match that I could think of in terms of a large ensemble cast who sets up shop in one's soul in the same way SFU has would be Northern Exposure. Ultimately, though, I think very few TV programs, if any, compare to SFU - you'd have to go to the big screen to find likely counterparts. I cannot think of any other television show that is this quiet, this devoid of action, cheap theatrics, and mawkish sentimentality, that deals only on the character's inner lives and relationships, to the exclusion of anything else. It's almost soap operish in its intense focus on the characters and their struggles, without resorting to cheap plot devices to create drama.
Aug. 22, 2001, 8:11 a.m. CST
In spite of myself, I am totally addicted to SFU. I and my wife started off sneering at the characters and their personalities/reactions as "unbelievable," but by the end of Season 1, we would probably watch each episode three times to make sure we didn't miss anything. It's a testament to the quality of the show. The only tired old cliche included in the show is the Christian=uptight, hateful, evil vs. Humanist=centered, sympathetic, accepting paradigm. Borrrring. To a one, these characters accept/need zero outside spiritual guidance and the one who accepts that he may not be the all-knowing master of his own private universe, David, is made to suffer for thinking so. So, this show has an agenda, and I don't agree with it. I guess, who cares? I'm still not going to miss an episode. It's like a beautiful train wreck I can't stop staring at. And we still root for Keith and David.
Aug. 22, 2001, 9:26 a.m. CST
Moriarty, First of all, I've been reading your reviews for quite some time...they are outstanding. Keep up the good work. However, I was distressed to see that your review skimmed over one of the best aspects of the show, namely the character dialogue writing. Specifically, I refer to the character of Brenda. The scenes where she and Nate travelled from home to home to "investigate" their technique was phenomenal...especially her brush with cancer. Her lines are constantly and consistently outstanding...hell, my crew has already named her the ultimate girlfriend. Just my opinion. Gabriel
Aug. 22, 2001, 9:38 a.m. CST
by Sandy NYC
When I watch Six Feet Under it makes me wonder why the rest of the stuff on TV just plain sucks. The Sopranos has its ups and downs, Sex and the City is just all right, Larry David is funny in an annoying kinda way and Oz just lost its way. The rest of TV is so bad it doesn't even make sense to comment on. It doesn't even have to be in the least controversial. Just more interesting and maybe resemble real life just a little.
Aug. 22, 2001, 4:26 p.m. CST
I have been hearing about this show for months and months but unfortuately dont have HBO, and had never seen an episode until last Tuesday. I found a guy at work had been taping them and though I have only seen a few episodes since then, I love the show, the writing and the characters. I cant wait to see more episodes.Its not often that shows like this make on the air. If this had been on network television it would be gone by now, face it. Dramas with a deep subject matter dont usually last very long. You got St. Elsewhere, China Beach, Thirtysomething and Homicide who through their entire run hung on by a threat so its refreshing that this show is not only getting great viewership, but also good press and renewal for a Second Season. After a frustrating Summer of movies with shallow characters and Special Effects over plot, its good to see something with subsance, ya know? I hope these are released on DVD so I can add them to my collection.
Aug. 22, 2001, 6:16 p.m. CST
Best Series- Drama (of course- but i don't know if it will be considered drama or comedy, most likely drama) Best Actor- Drama (Peter Krause, I don't know wheter Michael C. Hall would be considered the lead actor or Peter Krause) Best Actress- Drama (Frances Conroy) Best Supporting Actor- Drama (Michael C. Hall, Jeremy Sisto (<-without a doubt), Freddy Rodriguez(<- I never would have considered Freddy Rodriguez had I not seen the episode with the baby)) Best Supporting Actress- Drama (Lauren Ambrose (<-again, without a doubt), possibly Rachel Griffiths) Best Guest Appearance- Male (old black guy from that episode who I'm pretty sure was in The Shining) Best Guest Appearance- Female (Illeana Douglas <- that was the most I ever laughed at the show) Various writing and directing awards, cinematography, bla, bla, bla. The finale was one of the most deeply moving moments of my life. The season finale was the best thing ever put on television. Love, Peace, and Chicken grease, SadPanda
Aug. 23, 2001, 4:44 a.m. CST
Can I just say I am so freakin' happy that Peter Krause is being recognized?!?! My favorite show was SPORT'S NIGHT (until it got unfairly canceled...) and he was my favorite part of the show as Casey McCall. The only reason I tuned in to watch SFU was because I saw a commercial and i recognized him...now I love the show, and what the show can now bring to his career--it can bring him to us, the viewers. I agree with you, Moriarty, that he deserves those great film roles. You don't understand how excited I am that he's finally getting around to people!
Aug. 23, 2001, 2:24 p.m. CST
My experience with Six Feet Under seems very much like yours. I ignored it at its debut, being one of those who disliked American Beauty. But when 2 on-line friends started talking about it, I decided to watch the 4-hour catch-up repeat, just so I could join in. The early episodes had everything that turned me off American Beauty, everything that happens when a sitcom writer decides to Get Deep: cliched shallowness disguised with pretentiousness. But something about the characters held me and I kept watching. Now, even though I still see the flaws (e.g. the maddeningly inconsistent portrayal of the Chenoweth family), I'm a full-fledged fan. The core actors are as good as can be found on TV. I've been told that the reason we've never seen Michael C. Hall before now is that he's been strictly a stage actor. This is the first time he's been in front of a camera. Amazing. Lauren Ambrose takes all the cliche out of Ball's penchant for seeing all the goodness and wisdom in the universe in sullen teenage girls. Just watch how she plays the scenes with her guidance counselor in episode 12. You get the feeling there's no telling how large her talent is. And you're on the money about Peter Krause, an actor who's so good that nobody seems to give him credit for it. He's going to be one of those performers who, a few years from now, people are going to wake up to and say, "Why doesn't Peter Krause ever win awards or get named to Best Actor lists. He's better than all those guys."
Aug. 23, 2001, 9:22 p.m. CST
by Jack D. Ripper
The depiction of the Chenowith family is the most glarring flaw on "Six Feet Under"'s otherwise remarkable canvas. Billy and Brenda are just unlikable, unsympathetic fuck-ups, and are mostly intolerable. While both Griffiths and Sisto are fine performers, I must disagree with Moriarty's comments on their respective roles. Billy's a black hole whenever he's on screen, screaming all of his crazy bullshit in a performance that is not at ALL nuanced, and Brenda's just an irritating cunt who mercilessly mindfucks Nate whenever possible. Griffiths does NOT show us the side of Brenda worth fighting for, becuase that side isn't even WRITTEN! Nothing about that woman, other than her looks, is appealing, and I was PRAYING when Billy showed up, and later, when they had that car wreck, that Brenda would DIE so that Season 2 would be Brendaless. Unfortunatly I didn't get my wish. I think Krause is a remarkable actor, but I'm dissapointed that he's seemingly attatched to Griffiths at the hip. The other Fishers(Conroy, Hall and Ambrose)all get to do things independent of their romantic leads, while Nate's just saddled with all sorts of crazy shit. This plotline's the least believable because, realistically, no ONE is going to put up with as much shit as Brenda dishes out when there are basically NO pros for doing so. Any real person, ESPECIALLY one as strong and forceful as Nate is the rest of the time would have dropped her tired ass long ago. The only explanation? That boy's whipped? WH-CHI!
Aug. 24, 2001, 6:23 a.m. CST
can someone please tell me what the appeal is? american beauty was the biggest piece of dog shit i've ever seen! who gives a shit about a bunch of selfish, boring yuppies? i go to art school, and all this shit is EXTREMELY typical for student's work. it's like people still think we live in the fifties or something. AMERICAN beauty? whose america is that? nothing that i've ever seen. a bunch of pasty face whiners. look at this bag blowing in the wind...isn't it beautiful...fuck off...you suck and so does your bag...as well as six feet under and alan ball
Aug. 26, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST
Having not watched the first two episodes, I can't comment on their flaws, but I saw very little to complain about in the other episodes. Sisto's performance was incredibly nuanced - he truly left you with that unsettling "what is he going to do next" feeling that I'm sure anyone who has a relationship with someone with this illness can identify. Rodriguez is a class act: I started to connect with his character in that episode with the gang member's burial. And the conclusion of that episode where he worked on the tiny infant as he was expecting his own child ? I wept - I really identified with what he was experiencing. When's the latest time a drama on the regular networks moved you that way ? 'Nuff said...