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Freddie Prinze, Jr. LIES About Harry To SciFi
Hey folks, Harry here... Seems that SciFi Wire sat down to interview Freddie Prinze, Jr. and asked about the 'bad buzz' on the internet and Freddie decided to take a swipe at me...
"Scooby-Doo star Freddie Prinze, Jr. told SCI FI Wire that Internet critics of the upcoming film are biased by their feelings of exclusion from the studio. "Most of the people that said the bad stuff, they [Warner Brothers] didn't show things to," Prinze said at the press junket for his latest film, Summer Catch. "That one guy, [Ain't It Cool News'] Harry Knowles, he wasn't even there [on the set], and he gets mad, because he was never invited, and he was really trying to get there, and they told him no. Unfortunately, the [entertainment] business doesn't give respect to a lot of the Internet writers, and they act like jerks sometimes, so a lot of people get mad."" -- CLICK HERE TO READ THE RESTWell, first off, not a single thing he says above is true. I never once contacted Warner Brothers about attending the SCOOBY DOO junket. Not only that, but Warner Brothers never contacted me. And, even if I wanted to go, which I didn't, I was busy covering LORD OF THE RINGS in the South of France at the time... A project about 400,000 times more interesting than a SCOOBY DOO movie.
Right now my interest in SCOOBY DOO is very much like my interest in seeing Michael Jackson play Edgar Allen Poe... Morbid curiousity, I believe it is called. I have never been the guy that wanted to go to the thing that everybody else was invited to, I go out of my way to avoid those situations. I like to go to the sets that no one else is invited to, that way I can get the exclusive for you folks. Now, if you read the rest of Freddie's deer-in-headlights remarks, you'll find him droning on about how "I've had movies that got great reviews, and nobody went. I've had movies that got horrible reviews, and everybody went." Well, let's take a look at that...
Specifically, let's look at the FREDDIE PRINZE, JR movies... The following ratings came from IMDB and reflect thousands of votes. I have also included MetaCritic Scores and Rotten Tomatoes Scores when they were available. If you notice, the only film that Freddie made, that made a profit is the only film that had a slightly positive rating. The numbers are based on a 1-10 rating scale.
SHE'S ALL THAT = 6.0 [Rotten Tomatoes: 27% favorable] the only one that made a profit!
WING COMMANDER = 3.9 [Rotten Tomatoes: 11% favorable]- lost alot of money
DOWN TO YOU = 4.7 (MetaCritic Says: 6 out of 100) [Rotten Tomatoes: 3% favorable]- lost money
BOYS & GIRLS = 4.9 (MetaCritic Says: 26 out of 100) [Rotten Tomatoes: 9% favorable]- lost money
HEAD OVER HEELS = 4.7 (MetaCritic Says 20 out of 100) [Rotten Tomatoes: 7% favorable]- lost money
SUMMER CATCH = 4.8 -- about to be released, but early reviews tell us... it won't do too well. Awwwww...I guess it is beyond Freddie to imagine that the reason this project smells so bad could possibly be based upon the screenplay and the talent history of those making the film. Oh no, that could have nothing to do with it. Oh well Freddie, maybe you'll understand some day.
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At least Freddie didn't take a cheap shot at Harry's weight.
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So he can only get crappy direct to video parts.
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Aug 16, 2001 10:46:08 AM CDT
Way to lay the bitchslap down on that homo-ass no-talent piece o
by the_lion
Fred is a blond haired goodguy stud. Prize looks like a rat dressed up like him. That alone should tell you how much this movie is going to suck. Freddie Prinze = worst actor in Hollywood today.
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Exposing the crappy, self-serving marketing lies of Hollywood wanks. This was great fun! Thanks Harry!
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Why don't you just tell Freddie you're in love with him? I totally understand you, he's very cute and he has "closet case" written all over his face.
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...you've had this coming for awhile now. You've taken swipes at Freddie for a long time. Whenever he's mentioned in an upcoming movie, regardless of the script, you bad mouth him far more than he deserves. I've never seen anyone insult an actor (whether he's a good actor or not) as much as you have insulted Freddie, Harry. Now, he's taken a swipe back at you probably because he knows you've been bad mouthing him so much, and I don't blame him one bit. I would have done the exact same thing if someone was bad mouthing me for no good reason (being a lousy actor and being in bad films is NOT a good reason!). There are plenty of actors out there that can't act and are in horrible films, and I don't hear you trashing them nearly as much as you trash Freddie. My advice to Freddie: choose better scripts in the future to avoid Harry's wrath. My advice to Harry: stop bad mouthing Freddie for being in bad movies and being in need of a good acting coach.
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Last week after I blew my nose I looked into the KLEENEX(c)to see what it looked like. What did I find you ask? Why, my little boogie friend had an incredible resemblance to our topic of discussion. I said "Wow, you look alot like Freddie Prinze Junior!" To which he replied "Yes, it is a MYSTERY isn't it?" Fellow readers, I promise that I will get to the bottom of this!
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And he is the nsync of hollywood. No character and prefabricated talent.
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Scooby Doo deserves to get slammed. I'll disembowel myself if this movie is anything less than a giant "fuck you" from Hollywood. Sure I haven't read the script, but it stars three of the worst "actors" on the planet. They would screw up Chayefsky. And on top of that it's just another sign that Hollywood refuses to come up with a new idea, and salivates over the notion of cynically exploiting childhood nostalgia. ***As far as a battle of the wits between Freddie and Harry, well that's like a nurf duel. *** Monkeybone 5.0 (lost over 60 million), Faculty 6.2 (but made a butt load)*** If Harry was on the set do you think Scooby Doo would be hailed as "Wizard of Oz for the 21st Century"
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Aug 16, 2001 10:58:31 AM CDT
I say you and freddie settle this feud with a wrestling match...
by ted_phillips
Harry can dress up as the old school wwf wrestler "earthquake" and freddie can dress up as "cocoa bird"... or how about a celebrity death match between the two? although, I think harry hardly is a celebrity...
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I think Freddie was talking about "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" as a movie that didn't get great reviews but everybody went to. Although, I remember it doing quite a bit worse than the first "summer" movie. The first movie was pretty decent, but the 2nd one sucked. And he really wasn't the star of either of those movies. Either way, I think it bears mentioning.
Now, if I could just figure out what he was talking about when he said "movies that got great reviews and nobody went." He really is a terrible actor. I give his marriage 2 years. Unless they read this, in which they'll stretch it out to 3 to spite me. -
Just look at that disreputable list of films! Typically it takes one awful film to stop a wanker actor's career dead on its tracks...This guy has gotten way too many chances and he's proven to be death at the box office.Can he pick a bad script of what? Maybe with 'Summer Catch' flunking,they can sink his Battleship! I have zilch interest in seeing 'Scooby Doo'
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Aug 16, 2001 11:26:25 AM CDT
Ya know what, I don't really mind the guy. I just have to hate h
by monty python
No justice. No FUCKING justice in this world.
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Fred, man, I believe Harry has been eluding to the fact that Scoobie was gonna be a steaming pile long before that press junket. Not that I believe that you really even bothered to find out for your self, I'm sure the studio told you say something about it. I cannot imagine you stroling by AICN to check out your fan base (not a lot of 16 year old girls scanning thru these pages (no offence to the few who are)). Sounds to me like someone is already trying to blame Harry if this movie craters. Becides, Harry didn't make up my mind on not seeing Scoobie, however your being cast did have something to do with it. Nail him to the wall Harry! ZB
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would be the movie Prinze is talking about that got great reviews and nobody saw. It has a 6.6 rating on IMDB and won an audience award at Sundance but did like $2.50 at the box office. And Harry way to sound even more petulant and childish than usual.
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Bad Career choise-Everything since..
Did Harry bitch about how people were unfairly judging A Nights Tale without having seen any of it?
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I have been coming to this site for a long time, and if there's one thing I have learned, it's that no matter how much you trash a movie, you are going to see it. You are all going to see Scooby Doo (and YES, HARRY WILL SEE IT AS WELL), despite the bad pre-reviews that this site has given it. OK, so it's not Spiderman or Episode II, but don't knock it till you tried it. As for FP Jr's reaction....well, Harry, how would you react if a critic starting bashing your book before it even came out? Yes, FP Jr. sucks, but his reaction was as professional as it could have been.
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Why waste space on this non-issue story, when you could've posted a link to the "Freddy vs Jason Greenlighted" story up at Sci-Fi Wire? It's much more interesting and doesn't make the site look nearly as bad as mounting a childish feud with Freddy Prinze Jr.
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I've never understood the animosity people have toward FPJ, until now. Lying to cover your own multi-million-dollar sinking ship is understandable, but lacks a certain dignity. And it's soooo unnecessary. If your product is worth the celluloid it's printed on, the world will see it when it's released, despite what Harry feels about it. Nothing can sink a good movie with a popular title. Lotsof things can save a bad movie with a popular title.
Hey-- remember Sam Raimi's comment about FPJ for Spider-Man? "If I have my way, (FPJ) won't even be able to see Spider-Man, let alone be Spider-Man." Sam doesn't strike me as an unusually mean guy, so methinks FPJ has a documented history of disinformation-- a.k.a., talking shit and making up facts, and pissing off his own share of Hollywood people. Anyone care to chase down old interviews and expose FPJ up to naughtiness?
Harry's reputation was sullied, so I can definitely understand a need to refute "inaccuracies" (read as: boldface lies) from FPJ. Just remember not to take it personally. He's "incorrect" (read as: lying) about something that will make or break him as a bankable star, and could take his fiance, SubMachineGun, with him. I have sympathy for his situation, but AICN is a cool service, and I detest disinformation, so hopefully someone at the Scooby press junket will call him on those charges ("Where did you get your information on those statement about Harry Knowles' interest in the 'Scooby Doo' movie", "Are you aware that he denies these allegations?", etc.) and at least get a retraction, if not an admission of naughtiness.
People put value in their ticket money and want to see something worthwhile, so "Summer Catch" will flop unless there's gratuitous nudity. I hope that Jessica Biehl isn't stupid enough to do that to her career. She wanted Mena Suvari's role in "American Beauty", but she won't get those kind of roles while she's in "Dude, Where's My Athletic Supporter"-type roles. American teens understand that "Summer Catch" is a baseball take on that stupid football movie from 2 years ago, and that they're taking their chances with that cast. The last teaming of Lillard and FPJ was "Wing Commander", after all-- and the next one will be "Scooby Doo". Draw your own conclusions. ;D
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I mean, stories like this are NOT why I visit AICN everyday.
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I mean, he was in, um...hey, he was good in "SLC Punk" and passable in "Scream".....as for Scooby Doo, I still think Rob Lowe should have played Shaggy...he did a dead on impersonation of Shaggy on an episode of SNL....
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I'm getting a feeling that the much anticipated Scooby Doo film may not earn a positive review from Harry Knowles. I gather that Mr. Knowles and Mr. Prinze do not hold much mutual respect. I certainly found the television program, "Scooby Doo Where Are You?" to be quite enjoyable. The character, "Fred," was always my favorite and I hope that the character "Scrappy Doo" is omitted from the upcoming film.
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Finally the truth can be told. Harry is actually the love child of the late Freddie Prinze and Devine.
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Look at yourself. Ridiculous. It's a movie about a cartoon we watched as CHILDREN. One that, if you actually watch it now, isn't exactly top of the line entertainment. Would you all bitch if the Gummi Bears movie was CG and had a drunken midget as the villain's sidekick rather than a goblin? Does it MEAN THAT MUCH??? I watched Scooby as well, it was one of my favorite shows growing up, but I can care less if the film takes a turn from being a live action representation of the show. I'd rather have something that makes fun of how damn silly the whole premise was. Meanwhile, the cartoon is a seperate entity of its own, and if you STILL have a profound passion for its creative genius and wit, or just pop culture sentimentality for a childhood show (not sarcastic) then dont see the damn movie. I don't think most of you actually sit there and watch Scooby reruns on Cartoon Network 6 hours a day, I think this is more of a nostalgic thing that people are taking a little too personally. And Harry - it's ok to defend yourself, but to devote so much time and also throw in more rips at the guy is immature. I love this site, but this Anti-FPJ is going too far. I think you should take another look at your J&SB:SB review where you denounced talkbackers for the very same mentality you frequently engage yourself in.
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Harry and Freddy. Moriarty and Ebert.Oh wait... I just noticed all the other fed up posts. I withdraw the question. Get a life Harry.
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Aug 16, 2001 12:35:14 PM CDT
way to get back at freddie harry by reminding us of all the crap
by jon-e-blaze
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I think people are jealous of FPJ, simply because SMG probably swallows his hate paste every night.
I bet half of you lot who post on this board haven't had a relationship with anything other than your hand.
By the way, FPJ is still an ass monkey.
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Why would you even waste your time responding to FPJ's comment? You know he's a drip. I know he's a drip. We all know he's a drip. I can understand you taking it personally because he singled you out, but c'mon--it's Freddie Prinze, Jr. we're talking about here. Freddie. Prinze. Jr. Just let it roll off your big ol' shoulders and take comfort in the fact that when Scooby Doo finally lifts its leg in theaters, you'll have the smug satisfaction of knowing that you were right. Then you can gloat all you want, pal. Personally, I'd send him a funeral wreath when the film opens. But then again, I'm a vicious Sith bastard.
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Is it just me or whenever this fudegepacker starts talking it looks like he drooling uncontrollably. After Summer Catch bombs look for him to be giving Geffen handjobs for work. And Scooby Doo is the kind of movie you dont even need to seea preview for and you know will fail. Hopefully it will kill the careers of everyone involved.
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Am I nuts, or do the posts in the Harry-is-an-asshole thread seem written using the same talking points? Are we watching the sport of the new millenium, the coordinated destruction of a career by political enemies? Point: Harry was accused of specific things by Prinze, things that could not have happened, given he wasn't even in the country at the time. Harry makes a case for Prinze lying. Point: Harry doesn't lie: opinions aren't lying, they are just beliefs or judgements. Prinze outright lied. Point: to destroy a rep, truth is not necessary. You just need a quiescent reporter and media outlet, and the assumption that most people don't read the retractions, or check on the facts. Harry's been targeted by real by-gosh enemies now, and they want his rep smeared and his power lessened. It ain't paranoia, it's just that Hollywood is a business that takes criticism personally, most especially when their income is being destroyed. Harry may have single-handed (from their point of view) tanked a project, and that my friends is an invitation to some real nasty politicking. Ya know, if all you "Harry hates Prinze" types are all that anti-Harry, I doubt very much you'd be readers of the site. Ergo, you are "hitmen", or just plain in need of dates.
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While I agree that Prinze and Lillard have little to no talent or movie-star pull, Gellar and Cardellini (sp?) most certainly do. So does Mr. Bean, I reckon. I may end up seeing this because of them, though with no expectations at all.
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Hey whats wrong with gay and lesbian stoners!
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I'm not going to see this movie. People say that I would be sitting in the theatre for AI when i said it looked like a pinochio re-hash. I got slammed for judging it by the previews too quicky. But when the reviews came out "just like pinnochio", "good, but they keep hammering us over the head with the pincohhio analogy", and for the record, I STILL havennt seen it. Just because some of you want to see a movie, doesn't mean EVERYONE will see it.
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Aug 16, 2001 1:09:49 PM CDT
Beautiful Harry. Beautiful. Freddy - even teenyboppers are sick
by brian 2000
Learn to act and don't mess with our Head Geek!
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Fred, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. (Of course, they probably shouldn't go around naked either....) You've had movies that had bad reviews and everybody went to see them ? Doubt that one ! Jeez...okay, let's conduct a little experiment here, let's take a quick vote. How many people reading this went to see a movie SPECIFCALLY because ol' Fred here was in it ? If either this talkback or my personal inbox gets bombarded by indignant Fred fans, I'll gladly hang my head in shame and apologise....bit I ain't holding my breath !
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It IS personal now, and although I'm not a lawer, I'd guess it might be LIBEL. You see the big deal is that Harry's image is the most valuable thing that he has. FPJ wasn't just talking shit about Harry to his buddies, he went ON THE RECORD with false information and character assasination. Harry refuted FPJ's statements. If it seems like Harry is angry about it, well he has cause to be. Is it News? Well, maybe not, but it is interesting enough that we all posted back.
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How long has this topic been up? An hour? Oh well. Harry, you piss me off with your constant liberal propaganda/conservative bashing, but I love ya and think you handled this extremley well. And to all the plants out there, Harry has told us his opinions of Prince.....as far as I know never said a mistruth. (Lie) Compare that to what Freddie has done.......Ok now Harry, do I get a free copy of your book?
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Aug 16, 2001 1:31:31 PM CDT
Freddie, it's your own damn fault no one over the age of 14 like
by the garbage man
Look at Brad Pitt - when he hit it big, most of us thought he'd be just another vapid pretty-boy in sappy chick flicks. But wait - he actually chose to star in GOOD movies that alot of people (rather than just pre-pubescent girls) like: Interview w/ a Vampire, Se7en, Twelve Monkeys, Fight Club, etc. You claim to be such a comic book geek; well prove it by getting off your ass, reading a script (or having someone read it to you), and choosing a GOOD project.
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Aug 16, 2001 1:32:16 PM CDT
Yep, this board is loaded with new-name plants. But like I said
by monty python
Ah my sweet Sarah, dump that Prinze character, he jumps on kittens!
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Some of you, i compare to the music fan assholes who will praise a band cause it's independent, then bitch at 'em when they get a video played at MTV...now, in some cases, this is very much justified ::coughcoughLimpBizkitcoughcough::, but in other cases, it's simply whiny bullshit because now you have to share your love of a band with the rest of the world...SHUT UP ALREADY....as it pertains to this site, we now have this huge group of bastards who bitch at Harry whenever he wants to make a point...it's his site, and he has every right to defend it how he sees fit...and even though he sure as hell doesnt have to to a guy who's getting work based on his looks and the fact that he's banging Sarah Michelle Gellar, he's the only one who has to make that choice...Harry will not allow his site to get slandered unfairly without a fight...i respect that...but since now that puts him in the middle of some issues that arent, how do you say, underground and edgy enough for some people, he's now being bitched at for being too commercial....why go to Cannes and Sundance for movies instead of picking up scraps of info from other sources like he used to? Why make "childish" comments about actors and directors for making bad decisions. Because this is how he has chosen to run his site. We should be rather lucky to get an opinion of this sort here....most journalism tries to remain so unbiased and aloof that they end up clouding over the truth and kissing major ass to keep it clean...here, we have a place where the reporters have every right to state their personal opinion, and even if you dont agree with it(though i seriously doubt that is the case here), there is at least an opinion to hear. Get on TV, you have to say everything is the greatest thing since sliced bread, at least until some established critic speaks the truth, or the box office numbers come in...get a site, you see the movie, boom, you can tell the fucking planet it sucks. Who gives a shit who hears or disagrees...you can say it. Someone verbally attacks and slanders a reporter on TV, nope, sorry, cant retort on the air...its one sided....this is as close to freedom in entertainment reporting as it can get, people...if you're pissed because it's getting commercial mention, go somewhere else. You dont have the right to tell a site's founder what he can and cant say. And while i'm at it, the fact that some people find it convenient to make it out like Harry's only bashing certain pretty boy actors because they're more handsome than he'll ever be doesnt sow how jealous Harry is...it goes to show how fucking SHALLOW some of you really are. What's ironic is that that's the sam argument ive heard repeatedly from squealing 15 year old N*SYNC/BSB fans defending their pieces of meat/shit to fans of real music...that these people are "just jelus that Justin Timberlake's so handsome, and ur probly just ugly!"(glaring typos intentional) As for the issue of bashing FPJ's movies before they come out, well DUH....look at his fuckin' track record..not exactly Oscar worthy...and it's not just Harry, but the collective internet and even the established critic community ive heard bash the shit out of Scooby Doo. Even with the most suspicious of reviews, when there's a collection of voices shouting the damnation of a movie, you know something's not right...after that it's just playing the odds...if it looks like shit, smells like shit, chances are it's probably shit. The problem lies in the fact that nobody who was involved with a movie has the balls to stand up for what s/he believes in and say "my movie sucks!"...that would drive people away, no matter how shitty the movie really is...so dont blame Freddie Prinze Jr, the dickweed, for trying to defend his movie against detractors at this stage of the game...he's just protecting his paycheck...and since once his looks start to go his ass will be back to unemployment where he fucking belongs, we can allow him the luxury of his job security for a little while longer cant we? Besides, we should all be concentrating our efforts on trying to break him from Sarah Michelle Gellar....if we cant stop him from making any more movies, we can surely ensure he won't infect her with his demon talent-less spawn, right? My rant is done...Revolution is my fucking name...
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When Howard Stern does it, it's all part of his persona, and it's funny. But when Harry does it, it doesn't seem to be a joke, and then it just seems like petty school-girl stuff.
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Yes, you caught us all. The reason people on this site don't like FPJ is because he is not a good, white, red blooded american. WTF!!!
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Aug 16, 2001 1:54:20 PM CDT
You sure caught us, Mad Mona. We're all Hitler Youths.
by the garbage man
Yes, we all hate Freddie because he has a little Puerto Rican blood in him, despite the fact that he DOESN'T LOOK FOREIGN and MOST PEOPLE (besides little girls who obsess over him *cough, cough*) DON'T EVEN KNOW HE'S PUERTO RICAN. It's certainly not because he's a vacant waste of human flesh and because his terrible choice in movie roles is only surpassed in banality by his acting. Dumbass.
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harry heres the chance to be the bigger man (no pun intended) have an aicn Freddie Prinze Jr. appreciation day, hit him where it hurts post all the reviews of every movie he has ever done (it might be better if they werent by you) and let that speak for itself no insults no jokes just the cold hard facts
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Aug 16, 2001 1:57:03 PM CDT
So basically he FPJ can only make a decent movie if he's not the
by geekgrrl
Certainly true for House of Yes. He was hardly the star of that one.
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Good or bad publicity is still
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Lady, get a fuckin' clue...maybe our hatred of Freddie Prinze Jr comes from the fact that he hasn't made SHIT in terms of a good movie?!?! did you even READ the list of movies this turd has made?? If all of a sudden John Leguizamo or Jimmy Smits insulted the shit out of Harry over a movie review, there wouldnt be this big an argument, because theyve both done some damn good material...if one of them made a bad movie, you can hope for a better one, and chances are, it'll come...FPJ has had several chances to improve...took advantage of none of 'em....so please...get off the Prozac...the man's career ain't goin' nowhere fast...Revolution is still my fucking name...
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And Sarah Michelle Gellar is SUPPOSED to marry this fucking guy?! Now, I really don't want to see "Screwby Doo!" No wonder Warner Brothers is getting their asses kicked at the box office. Well, that's what you get when you hire chimps to do p.r. Have another bananna; its payday.
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Aug 16, 2001 2:03:56 PM CDT
kicking a poor puppy like Prinze day after day is not very heroi
by eraser_x
As Harry himself states, Prinze's movies don't do well. That means Prinze is already not very popular. He's just trying to make some money while he can with what little ability God gave him. Okay, fine. Why beat up the guy all the time, when he's already down?! What's so cool about doing that? Not everyone can be Harrison Ford, okay? It's like when the pseudo-intellectual press used to smirk and make fun of Vanna White. It's just seems mean. It reminds me of the Far Side cartoon where in a saloon of burly men, one wimpy guy boldly challenges the only other wimpy guy in the place, saying, "yeah, YOU!" If a person can be judged by the quality of his enemies, as some say, then Harry is not doing too well.
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Aug 16, 2001 2:13:29 PM CDT
Scooby Doo movie backers are HOLLYWOOD MAFIA, they'll do anythin
by joeypogi
it is quite scary how the backers of the Scooby Doo movie are mounting an organized attack against Harry. it is amazing what people will do for money. Harry doesn't like Scooby Doo coz it will suck, that's it, nothing personal. The Scooby Doo backers are attacking Harry coz it will coz them money. Jeez! Imagine filling up a whole bulletin board like this with anti-Harry propaganda. Jeez, get a life, you stupid Scooby Doo movie backers, get a life. I liked Scooby Doo the cartoon, you guys just made it sad. I AM NOT GOING TO WATCH SCOOBY DOO AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, just to show these Hollywood bullies what jerkwad losers they are.
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If First posters are so obviously stupid and mentally defective as their bashers claim, then the people who bash them endlessly are just repeating the obvious and are kicking pitiful morons and are therefore even more boring and annoying than the First posters, who at least are usually terse and are just off in their own First-posting world and don't really show agression against anyone. I, on the other hand, am a basher basher, and therefore do not fall within my own criticism. :-)
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reading this post. Now, I just have to comment, of course. No surprise there, huh? Harry is able to back up his Bash FPJ Crusade (and if you think it's been bad before, just wait...) with facts (see term: Loss of Revenue with picture of FPJ) or has stated them as an opinion. FPJ has set himself up for a potential libel suit, if Harry is so inclined, by making a derogatory statement while presenting a "fact" without using the words, "In my opinion" (If he did use those words, I am not aware of it)which can be proved false. Now, I "ain't" saying Harry should do this; the court systems are too full. As far as publicity goes, this works both ways. Harry and FPJ are currently in a situation in which any comment by either will simply bring the other to more people's awareness. As the contention becomes more public, people will go to the movie to see what the fuss is all about (man is inherently curious) and others will log onto to AICN to see what is happening here. ____On a seperate, more fun-filled note, I wish to offer a suggestion to the studio producing SD...It is exactly the opposite of my Rollerball suggestion (make it a PG13 kiddie hit and market the hell out of it). They should add the blood, guts and gore that SD always lacked. Maybe even a nude SMG scene. If Halle supposedly earned half a million showing her breasts, SMG should be able to take a few dollars to the bank, too. Make the movie rated R and fulfill the fantasies of a legion of SMG fans AND cater to the generation which grew up with SD by dumbing it UP to an action/thriller movie.____A Really Busy Bee!
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Aug 16, 2001 2:16:40 PM CDT
I WILL NOT WATCH SCOOBY DOO AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, BECAUSE OF
by joeypogi
organized attack, these Hollywood PR people have just hit a lower level. just make a movie, sell it honestly, and stop playing dirty.
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This is stupid. Frist, if a critic (ie: Harry) hates a movie based on a script, acting or anything else that has an actor (ie: Freddy Prinze Jr- who really shouldn't be considered an actor he's a 'film personality') it is not biased on the actor but on the moivie itself. the actor is only a small portion of the finished product. Now to bring up more of my point 1) we need a Scooby Doo live action film like we need a bullet in our heads 2) if the film is getting bad reviews because of the shooting script- it is on the shooting script and not the movie, althought the script is projected view of what the movie will be 3) giving fault to the internet for the failure of a film is not a good excuse for a crappy film. Hollywood has given us crappy film after crappy film. Not even any original ideas and just more recycled material. And to Mr. Prinze, you might have Sara Michelle Gellar, you might be a teen heart throb and your dad (rest Chicos soul) might of been famous, but your movies suck! You'll never play Batman if you keep this up!
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Doesn't Cartoon Network run this puppy into the ground enough without this sad upcoming movie to add to the stench??!?
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You bag the guy out every single chance you get. You mention time and time again how much you hate him and how talentless you think he is. And then you're surprised and offended when he takes a swipe at you?!?! I have no opinion on Prinze (having never seen any of his films) but I'm surprised it took him this long to say something.
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All of you sound like fuckin imbeciles, "You got what you deserved Harry, your hypocritical Harry, your just jealous Harry,
your too commercial Harry," Jeeeezus it's enough to make you wanna puke 10 times over, all
you so called "I'm to good to be a fanboy cause I got a life fanboys" who point the finger at proud fanboys like Harry just because you yourself don't want to be labeled as ones make me sick. If you ask me your sure emulating the typical fanboy with your holier than thou rationalizations and haughty rants. The more you justify why your not a fanboy the more insecure you sound so shut your pie holes, or cut off your fingers rather and don't come to the sight ever again! It's like we're being force fed your mommy and daddy's ethics everyday on this sight. This is an internet movie rumor site, the fuckin best one on the net I might add, so why in the fuck are you posting shit on this sight day in and day out if you aren't pleased with it, cause your on your lunchbreak? Gimme a fuckin break you white collar mothafuckers! I could give a fuck about Harry's beef with Freddy Prince Jr, I'm sure they can both work it out like the two immature geeks that they are, but nothing remotely interesting is going to result from this beef. Not a fight, not a mud wrestling matching, nothing so their verbal spars are nothing but moot ventilations. In fact, I'm sure somewhere down the road they'll both walk off into the sunset hand in hand, regretting all the gay pot shots they were taking at each other. Harry next time Freddy says something to you that isn't nice simply say, "I'm rubber your glue whatever you say bounces off of me
and sticks to you, so there". Dammit!!
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Aug 16, 2001 2:59:38 PM CDT
If that talking crime-solving dog movie isn't GREAT, I'm going t
by reverb
This is a live action movie made from a cartoon, right? A la THE FLINTSTONES, which was a dreadful but hugely popular cash cow. Getting upset about the SCOOBY DOO movie is like getting upset about the THRILLER ride at Disneyland. It's all about the franchise - if it's good that's gravy. Expecting otherwise of corporate titans is silly.
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"It only takes 30 seconds to pluck my eyebrows, but it hurts. I have to tweeze them in the middle once a week. Otherwise, I look like Bert from Sesame Street. I've been doing it for 11 years."
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i've never heard of sci-fi wire, so who gives a fuck.. i sure don't...
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Anyone remember THE FACULTY? Yeah...Harry was in that film! How he got a part in it is beyond me. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. And lets take a look at ANY actors career and you will find really bad movies. Just look at Julia Robert's career. Harry, you got mad cause someone told your sorry ass off. Get over it.
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Aug 16, 2001 3:17:16 PM CDT
Freddie may not be a James Stewart, but Harry, don't use this si
by whosyourdaddy
Thats all
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I love Harry, Quint, Mori, and all the rest of the AICN gang and I visit this site every day. I was simply saying earlier that this isn't the type of story which should be posted on the front page of AICN. I mean, you don't see Dark Horizons posting responses to all of your attack on them regarding their Scooby Doo set visit every chance they get. That's all I'm saying. Hope ya understand.
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"Thick Blubber, Thin Skin".
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What is the name of Harry Knowle's unauthorized biography.
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Why must he do teen flicks? Isn't he 25 years old? Jesus fucking Christ Freddie! Jennifer Love Hewitt has more talent than you! And she's a disgrace to whatever screen she is on! Has this guy made one good movie? Seriously? From what I see on IMDb...nothing. Harry, kick Freddie's ass, you know the little whiney bitch deserves it.
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Why do I get this feeling that Freddie Priss Jr. was fed a comment to make as a tactical manuever to a.) draw attention to the SCOOBY-POO project by knowing that AICN would jump on it and therefore keep it in the foreground and b.) make it seem like the kind of movie that isn't for us "gossiping internet teens" (thanks, Kevin "Suddenly I'm The Asshole From the Denis Leary Song" Smith, for that label (not that I'm an adolescent)), thereby making it safe for the non-Morlocks that go to FPJr films anyways ("Oooo...like, I'm not seeing Scooby-Doo. It looks, like, like a chronic masturbators' convention going in there, Susie...")to see this film. Look, I don't give a FUCK about this shit, but I do know someone biting the bait when I see it. Freddie Prinze Jr. is the closest thing to the classic 'unifying common enemy' that we have. I'm not sticking up for Harry as it were, but I am saying that Harry's inevitable need to defend himself from false accusations on his site is exactly what Darth Idiot was shooting for. The film isn't going to have controversial material, so why not stir up said controversy via cheap shots and riling up the IGTs (see above K. Smith label)like someone sticking a firecracker into a beehive. Just let guys like Mr. Gellar and Fred "I can say 'Fuck!'" Durst disappear into irrelevancy by ignoring them and not invoking their names. Talent ain't exactly cuttin' it for 'em, that's for sure.
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...fuck him up his stupid ass. Nooch.
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Why would Freddy give a rats ass what Harry or anyone says about him when he has Sarah G's lips wrapped around his knob?
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Thanks for referring to me as the cursing TBer Cine99 :) maybe I'll change my name now to the above mentioned. BTW this isn't "ain't it communist news",is it? If Harry spent the time booting off all TB'rs that cussed he'd literally wipe out everyone on this whole *darn* site, see i didn't cuss. No, but I see your point though, even though it was an obtuse one.
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I understand you getting upset over Prinze's badmouthing but damn boy you should handle it with tact. Be thankful that you've had this much success making a silly website and chill out baby. And thank your columnists like DuPont and the World-AICN folks for making this site worth coming back to, cuz man you and Moriarty jam my vibe. And that ain't too cool.
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all this negative publicity you're giving this movie is just going to make people more curious about it. heck, WB will probably send you a thank you card after all is said and done because you played a part in promoting the movie.
i suggest that if you really want to address this "Freddie lied about Harry" issue, then write to Sci-Fi.com and tell them your side of the story.
and to all you pea-brains, this has nothing to do with SMG so leave her out of this
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Yeah, I kinda think that this is some sort of ploy because of two things. A.) Do you (meaning anyone reading) really think that Mr. Gellar gives a fizuck about aintitcool? Does he even know who Harry is? (I mean really know, not name-drop) If Freddie is smart and multi-dimensional, then he IS the best actor in film today. I'm sorry, I don't see his "Vacant" sign hanging in his pupils being any sort of facade to enhance his accessibility by way of dumbing himself down. (I would humor that for other actors, sure...) To sum it up, Freddie just isn't capable to me of even considering Internet fans. OH YEAH! I ALMOST FORGOT "B"! B.) This is really B1 and B2. The former being that it's 'mainstream cool' right now to bash Internet movie sites, a la Kevin Smith and so many others. True, Harry puts his foot in his mouth (okay kids, have a visualization field day, cueing up Khatchaturian's "Saber Dance" in your head) here and there, but he's now the victim of conditioned, jaded, knee-jerk reactions now. My own contributing to the onslaught! But it's just the "thing to do" right now. Which leads to B2, that being that Warner Bros. is taking the Internet route to promote this film and I'll bet that they consider AICN to be a viable threat. But either way, it's greater pub than you might think. Look, we're talking about it, aren't we? The movie's, what, a year away? It's not the checkmate move, but a seemingly inconsequential move of a pawn to strength the movie's position later on. And I can't emphasize this enough: I could be wrong, and I wouldn't be surprised if I am. But if you'll excuse me, I've got to check out some Area 51 developments on artbell.com. JOKE. (Maybe)
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Just think, Freddie.. YOU could have been SPIDER-MAN if you weren't such a talentless hack...your father was SO much more talented than YOU...
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Seriously Harry, you've done some fun stuff on this site but damn son get a grip. You're pitching a fit because some ass clown, on an aside, claimed you did something you didn't. First of all, you have all the editorial standards of Drudge with a head wound Case in point, the Year One screenplay review. So don't saddle up your high horse just yet. Its easy to see how Prinze might have mistakenly thought what he said is true. Your whoring is legendary and breathtaking. Besides that, his fans who read that article probably don't care about a stubby fingered texan, so why should you care about a no-talent jagoff?*** Off topic. I stand by my opinion that SMG does indeed suck like quicksand. She puts no effort and makes no interesting interpretation in her performances. Besides she's freaky looking. Every time she makes that weird massive smile I keep worrying her lips are going to fall off her face. And no, what EW says about her is not proper evidence to the contrary.
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One thing any media person knows is you don't do battle with your topic...when it gets personal the media always loses in the end, because if it ruins them, it ruins you too! So Scooby Doo is going to suck...what TV/Cartoon made to movie hasn't sucked besides the Star Trek films, and all of them with an odd number suck too!
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WHY, if Freddie's movies lose so much money, does he continue to get roles?
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made me laugh until I cried. THIS is why I read the TalkBacks. Later.
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My sister subscribes to teen people, and i picked it up and looked at the cover, then proceeded to drop it in agony, the guy seriously scares me, i shit you not, i can't stand the guy, if i saw him at night i would scream bloody murder! i was also looking at some of harry's old prinze reviews, and saw him say in the boys and girls review that the guy wanted to play peter parker!!!!!! good god sony finally got some sense and didn't go with the teen route and hired maguire
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is that this whole sordid mess is over a talking dog movie. People there are movies that warrent discussion like political films, films about relevant issues... and then there are talking dog movies. What do you do to a talking dog movie. you buy your ticket(s), buy some snacks, sit down and watch
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Call me crazy, but I liked 'She's All That'.
"Wow! That Jessica Biel is one great 'Summer Catch' ",
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I'm very impressed. It's not obvious that the same people are writing the same posts AT ALL. The studios sure are threatened enough by harry to go to such lengths to protect a crap movie like this. People indignant upon the behalf of Freddie Prinze Jr.? AND these people aren't teenage girls? Wake up and smell the studio plants, people!! They're blooming all over the place. There has probably never been so many aggregated posts in defense of Freddie in AICN's history than today. Point is, FPJ made some pretty inflammatory remarks about Harry (and rumor sites in general but the specific attack was on Harry) and Harry defended himself. Wouldn't you if someone threw this bunch of cowpie in your face? I support Harry defending himself. FPJ is probably bitter cause Harry'll be around longer than he will .. .after all, even FPJ's teenybopper fans will get creeped out by his vacant stare > once they hit the ripe age of 15 (hint, hint, girls. .there are hotter guys out there .. woohoo - Paul Walker in "Fast and Furious"! hello!!). Besides, who in the hell would watch this movie? Even the kiddies know to wait for the video release date ..
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Aug 16, 2001 7:48:23 PM CDT
If you enjoy Asimov's Robot novels you'll love reading Agatha Cr
by timmer33
It seems that when Harry is friends with a director, he practically has an orgasm about how awesome this film is going to be, even before he's seen any footage! Proof: Robert Rodriguez (Spy Kids) and John Carpenter (Ghosts of Mars). All a director has to do is befriend Harry and he gets free publicity here on AICN. Freddie Prinze Jr. sucks ass, by the way. I just saw "Head Over Heels" and it was a SPOS! Romantic Lead, my ass. Who keeps hiring this guy, anyway?
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Aug 16, 2001 8:11:30 PM CDT
Organicwebshooters? No! StarWarsMisc? No! BruceCampbell? No! ...
by monty python
Did that fit? >> I'd like to take credit for introducing the SMG angle. >>>>>SARAH, MARRY ME!>>>>SARAH, FREDDIE NEVER RECYCLES, AND OFTEN SUCKS THE FILLING FROM TWINKIES AND THEN PUTS THEM BACK ON THE SHELF!MARRY ME! <<<<<
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FPJ has always reminded me of the pre-Speed Keanu Reeves(vacuous, male bimbo till he got a helaciously cool movie!) Who knows, maybe FPJ will get lucky like Keanu. Other than that, I could care less, FPJ becomes a huge star like Tom Cruise or fades into oblivion- I COULD GIVE A SHIT!! I think guys ragging about FPJ are like chicks ragging on Brittney Spears! So what if none of his flix has made money AND he's still getting work AND he's porking Buffy- more power to him! C'mon Harry, FPJ's comments weren't that bad, I think the guy just pisses you off personally- does he remind you of the popular guy who gave you shit in school? Let it go man.
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I hate the man I do. Ever since I saw his goofy smile and his horrible acting I KNEW he was going to be famous. And that's what's horrible about it. He's a nutbag who thinks he's the bomb when he'll be stuck making crappy teen movies the rest of his life. Wing Commander blew, he doesn't know shit about the internet, he probably doesn't even know how to turn on the computer, his assistant probably has to type for him while he's in the porno chat rooms jerking off to some old wench who calls herself Mrs. Cleaver. No hack no talent, why the hell do these people make it into movies??????????
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If Freddie Prinze Jr thinks that the money Scooby Doo will make will have anything to do with him, he needs to wake up.
However, if anyone thinks the otherwise potential money Scooby Doo WILL LOSE doesn't have anything to do with him, they need to get a clue from underneath the Mystery Machine.
---Are Prinze and Matthew Lillard in some sort of secret Hollywood organization that predetermines what films they are going to ruin?
I could barely stand Lillard in Scream and Prinze, with the possible exception of The House of Yes (that has nothing to do with him), has never been in a movie I would reccomend.
I didn't mean to start bashing like everyone else (maybe they will improve their craft, someday), but Scooby Doo should have been treated different than all the other teen-junk / audience response card movies that are made simply to grab up money. Not that Scooby Doo is the bastion of all things culturally right, but casting all four major parts with TV actors (that's what Prinze and Lillard are - like Gellar, they are of the caliber of television acting, and not even network acting at that) is a bad mistake. Cardellini was very good on 'Freaks and Geeks,' so I have no qualms about her - and there can even be justifiable reasons for casting the Vampire Slayer (purely visual reasons), but a double shot of male annoyance is too much for me.
Scooby Doo sounds like it's going to end up being like the Flintstones, rather than....well has there been a good TV cartoon made into a movie?
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He told us that Godzilla 2000 was a good movie.
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If I recall correctly, there was no official response from Harry when Bill Maher treated him like crap on national television. And there should have been. Every single one of us know damn well that Prinze is a moron doofus of the highest degree - he can't help it, he was born that way. But Maher attacked Harry. Jumped all over him... there's no RESPECT for geeks out there. NO RESPECT whatsoever.
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...whoa, Freddie talks just like this annoying, whiny guy I know from high school! Now I know his true form...
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However, I don't see the need to call him gay, as if that's a bad word. What I am more concerned about is him humping the leg of all the superhero projects out there.
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It truly amazes me how many talkbacks this post got compared with much more interesting things on this site. Who really cares about any of this? I can understand why Harry would get angry about the comment and react with his own reply, but DAMN that's a lot of posts! I think its time for us to move on to more interesting news, because a story like this doesn't deserve the kind of attention it's getting. BTW, FPJ sucks, SD will suck, so please don't go to this movie out of curiosity because if this movie actually makes money it will only lead to more FPJ movies and the cycle of hate will continue.
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Aug 16, 2001 11:26:36 PM CDT
Harry, Mate, YOU NAILED THE C*NT, PRINZE is a shithouse actor, a
by gandalf the grey
LONG TITLE EHH,
Harry, mate, you have totally nailed the fucken c*nt, congratulations, he has undeservedly been given roles that should have been given to other, more worthy actors, and I do understand that may be unfair to their careers.
Although, I have noticed that you have given him "special treatment" in displaying your dislike. As have I, but I see him as displaying every visible sign of todays culture of commercialised entertainment, in which, actors,actresses are told how to dress, act, speak, be seen with, etc, etc except, unfortunately for him and myself, displaying an extreme form of offence to the public that was totally the opposite of the aim of said behaviour. That and the cu*t just cant act for shit, but then, he is hardly alone there-I will leave them unnamed, I dont intend to offend. Plus the fact that I find him fucken ugly. So Harry, why exactly do you dislike FPJr and ML with such passion?, other than the dislike of their films?, appearence, etc, etc.
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Question- Has he got a contract with WB for a certain number leading roles in teen oriented film genre?, it just seems unusual that he would be given so many opportunities when others have been told to piss off? This doesnt add up, by the way, I have noticed more than a couple of posts that would definately raise question marks as to its origins.
And MR. SMITH, stroke urself, I like your work, but it wont stop me from displaying self expression no matter how upsetting. Later Gandalf the Grey -
Aug 16, 2001 11:32:47 PM CDT
Harry, Mate, YOU NAILED THE C*NT, PRINZE is a shithouse actor, a
by gandalf the grey
LONG TITLE EHH,
Harry, mate, you have totally nailed the fucken c*nt, congratulations, he has undeservedly been given roles that should have been given to other, more worthy actors, and I do understand that may be unfair to their careers.
Although, I have noticed that you have given him "special treatment" in displaying your dislike. As have I, but I see him as displaying every visible sign of todays culture of commercialised entertainment, in which, actors,actresses are told how to dress, act, speak, be seen with, etc, etc except, unfortunately for him and myself, displaying an extreme form of offence to the public that was totally the opposite of the aim of said behaviour. That and the cu*t just cant act for shit, but then, he is hardly alone there-I will leave them unnamed, I dont intend to offend. Plus the fact that I find him fucken ugly. So Harry, why exactly do you dislike FPJr and ML with such passion?, other than the dislike of their films?, appearence, etc, etc.
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Question- Has he got a contract with WB for a certain number leading roles in teen oriented film genre?, it just seems unusual that he would be given so many opportunities when others have been told to piss off? This doesnt add up, by the way, I have noticed more than a couple of posts that would definately raise question marks as to its origins.
And MR. SMITH, stroke urself, I like your work, but it wont stop me from displaying self expression no matter how upsetting. Later Gandalf the Grey -
Those are lies, they are deliberate and aimed at an audience taht would obviously be familiar to Harry, I say fuck him, and he deserves to have another shithouse film to his name.
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Aug 17, 2001 12:44:42 AM CDT
Who the fuck keeps giving this monkey work? The usually divided
by pupkin
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He may not be a great actor, but give the guy a break. If you don't like his work, DON'T PAY TO SEE HIM!
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Aug 17, 2001 1:23:51 AM CDT
I kenw I wasn't the only one who found the suicide tb's offensiv
by huneybee
Thanks, King Rentboi. I am not a FPJ fan but some people went too far. Hit by a bus? I can see that...but the father/son comments are a bit much even for aicn.____Bee
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FPJ isn't a great actor. Scooby Doo maight suck. But the flow of anti-gay invective from you bunch of morons is more offensive than anything Prinze does on screen. This is a film talkback, not a forum for the use of as many homophobic euphemisms as you can think (fudgepacker? Fuck, are you like 12 or something?). You bunch of stupid narrow minded knobs should just get some fucking therapy to make you less sociopathic. And Harry - after all the things you've wished on FPJ, you fucking deserve to be ripped by him, lies or not. Some of the stuff you've said is indefensible.
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Has anyone thought that maybe FPJ got given some wrong information, somewhere? Didn't someone else make the same claim earlier this year (as reported by Harry in a Scooby article)? There is such a thing as being mistaken, you know... And has he really been as insulting to Harry as Harry usually is to him? *** I don't remember ever seeing FPJ in anything, so cannot comment on how good or bad HE might be but let's face it, there are a huge number of actors and actresses out there with little or no talent who regularly get work. Some of them are pretty popular. Having no talent has never hurt anyone in Hollywood - or on television, for that matter. To pick ONE guy out of such a vast crowd is pretty pointless. *** A large number of posters seem to have only one real problem with FPJ - they are jealous because of who his girlfriend is. I am sorry gentlemen, but that is extremely shallow. Most of you have never met SMG, have no idea of who or what she is, and are devoted to a character she plays in a TV show rather than to the woman herself. Please think about that.
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Aug 17, 2001 3:57:41 AM CDT
I Know One Thing Freddie Prinze Isn't Worth All This Bandwidth
by the founder
Come on guys we all know he's a terriable actor, but when Summer Catch opens up it'll be a ton of you posting how bad it was after you've spent your money on the movie. I can't front I liked She's All That, and it wasn't do to FPJ, but the rest of the cast carried the movie. I will give Prinze a little credit, there was this one movie he did with Peter Faulk, Tim Hutton, and Lauren Holly called Money somthing I can't remember the title, but he was decent in it. Harry you shoudn't have responded to his statements, because this is the kind of thing the PR at Warners want to stimulate interest in the flick. I agree with the a poster on the fact that these fan created movie sites are actually becoming big enough to make the studioes take notice, and that we all can give our opinions and it's truly freedom of speach, but I fear as these sites power grows the studioes will eventually find some way to limit their power. I'm won't be surprised if the studioes don't start creating fake fan movie sites as a counter measure. All I can to Warners is that you should have considered the entire demographic instead of trying to appeal to the teen faze that's currently sinking. Why in the world would the WB even consider Matt Lillard and Freddie Prinze as beloved characters from one of the most popular cartoons that spearded across three generations kids? Don't you guys know how big an audience Scobby reached, and even though I'm 25 I would still see it, because it was a favorite of mine as a kid? WB you had the chance to milk this puppy and your first mistake was casting Freddie Prinze and Matt Lillard, and just so you know over at Warners Harry didn't sway me from not seeing this, because despite some of Harry's bad reviews of movies I still saw them and liked some of them. No I won't see this because of Freddie Prinze's no talent having ass, and I won't even allow my 4 year kid to see it, because I know it's going to be crap from the bad press I read already, and yes I could have ignored the bad press if it was an actor who interested me, but bad script review, poor casting choices= YOU'RE NOT GETTING MY MONEY! Warners if it's true that you guys are making a Superman/Batman flick, then you better put some serious effort into the script and cast, because believe it or not we outnumber the teens, and a lot of us have little kids that we have to bring along, which= more money for you. Remember BATMAN & ROBIN, WELL DON'T REPEAT THAT CRAP.
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Seriously, does this guy think he's a good actor? Have any of you guys seen the new comments made by Matthew Lillard on the E! website now? What a bunch of assholes! Oh well, I suppose it's not their fault their mom's slept around.
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That'll learn him...umm well okay it'll just make ME happy. Prinze is a pretty big loser- ALL his movies suck. He should learn to SHUT THE HELL UP! as Y2J would say.
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Mark these words: A great actor can't save a bad story but a great story can save a bad actor.
If Scooby Doo's appeal is that it plays to adult's fond memory of cartoon they enjoyed as kids with an adult story IT WILL FAIL.
If it does not target today's kids, IT WILL FAIL.
Kids movies are money in the bank.
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You should be proud of yourselves. Especially the tasteful Ender's Bean. FPjr is of course just an actor and human. The talkabackers on here are something else. I think you should never be allowed near a woman (most of you probably never have) as it would be a shame to propagate such twisted genes. I belive thats called Eugenics. Ask you parents to explain. Thats if you know who your parents are.
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I have been an avid reader of this site for years now. And i really appreciate the work Harry and his gang do for us, i trust Harry completely.
In relation to this affair, i can only say that Harry is a critic, he is allowed to give his opinion of Mr. Prinze's acting abilities or lack of them, to be more precise. The only questionable suggestion being the "die" comment, apart from that, Harry has been conducting himself within the boundaries of usual journalistic criticism towards Mr. Prinze.
On the other hand, Mr. Prinze jumped the gun too soon to attack Harry, he lied about Harry "begging" the studio to let him in the Scooby Doo tour. This enrages me, i assume it does bothers the regulars as well.
I will try to convince my long list of friends to snail mail the studio to demand a public apology from Prinze to Harry, or we will simply ignore that Scooby Doo movie if it ever hits the theaters.
We will also avoid any movie or project in which Mr. Prinze appears.
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I've never been a fan of this guy, largely because I'm not female I would suppose, and, for me, he seems to possess no discernible acting ability. But let's for a moment ignore the all-too-frequent lack of professionalism found on this site for devoting TIME to responding to something like this and clarify something: This resume is only a partial list, leaving out a few critical successes that might have un-buoyed Harry's point. Such movies as The House of Yes and, less notably, To Gillian on Her 37th Birthday. I guess some point had to be made. To me, the only clear point is that everyone comes out looking like jackasses, which it seems to me, FPJ had no trouble doing on his own. How's about we cut the bickering and dick-waving and return to something more worthwhile?
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First, he was quite good in House of Mirth, why he doesn't do films like that anymore, no idea. Second....Well, hey his films suck, but at least he didn't appear in that "Monkeybone" crap, like SOMEBODY I know did.
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First, he was quite good in House of Mirth, why he doesn't do films like that anymore, no idea. Second....Well, hey his films suck, but at least he didn't appear in that "Monkeybone" crap, like SOMEBODY I know did.
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First, he was quite good in House of Mirth, why he doesn't do films like that anymore, no idea. Second....Well, hey his films suck, but at least he didn't appear in that "Monkeybone" crap, like SOMEBODY I know did.
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Aug 17, 2001 7:50:44 AM CDT
Harry, Not Your Best Showing, He was talking Business, You get P
by thorn ms
Danged, Harry. You need to get out more often and work on your interpersonal effectiveness. Working in a closet is making you socially challenged.
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I dont mean to sound bad, but us in the UK has never heard of him. Is he a star in the US? All I know is he is on this earth to fuck up Scooby Doo's chances of becoming a movie which is watchable. And I wouldnt have a go at him, I would have a go at the talentless hacks who put him in this film or is his Dad in charge of the studios.
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Freddie Prinze Jr. is not only a horrible actor (who seems to think a perpetual look of wide-eyed awe equals a good performance), he's also apparently a moron. Just take a look at the way he speaks. "You're not going to please everybody, so if somebody saw something that they didn't like, you know, I'm sorry, but most people are going to dig it, because it's pretty damn good."
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Typical Hollywood whining... It's not my fault, they just have a personal grudge against me... Always fully behind their films untill they tank, then it's " The scripts fault" or the "directors fault" or " critics didn't give us a chance" This one looks like it would be better off done as a hard core porno (go Daphne and Thelma!) and Freddy deserves the brunt of the blame. After the butt raping of wing commander,(No wonder DRX is defending Frederic, he blows in every film he is in) Freddy should be starring in the next Big Momma movie as a hemeroid on the title character.
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I have often heard about AICN, but have never been here. I often read the sci-fi wire and was curious after seeing the Harry vs Freddy entries. However, after seeing what's here, I am fairly certain I haven't missed anything. This site appears to be freedom of speech at it's worst. Anyone can say anything without any responsibility or consequence.
Maybe I'll check back another day when the flame wars die down. Perhaps there will be some intelligent discussions going on. -
Aug 17, 2001 9:23:12 AM CDT
You wont like what Lillard had to say about you today
by someguywithaname
He called him a mook.
I say challenge him to a wrestling match and show him who's boss. -
Harry has an unlikeable personality. That's the bottom line. Sorry.
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" and they act like jerks sometimes "
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FREDDIE SUX, plain and simple. His sidekick Illiard or whatever sucks ass too. The both should stop making movies cause that money could go to other projects like changing Episode Two's subtitle.
As for the talkbackers being stupid morons, FUCK YOU!!! I'm a snobbish film bastard and If i think something/someone sucks the big one, I'm gonna say it.
so fuck you all!!!
and go see The Others and dont waste your money on shit like american pie 2: the Wrath for more money. -
FREDDIE SUX, plain and simple. His sidekick Illiard or whatever sucks ass too. The both should stop making movies cause that money could go to other projects like changing Episode Two's subtitle.
As for the talkbackers being stupid morons, FUCK YOU!!! I'm a snobbish film bastard and If i think something/someone sucks the big one, I'm gonna say it.
so fuck you all!!!
and go see The Others and dont waste your money on shit like american pie 2: the Wrath for more money. -
I come to this site everyday before I start my days work. I really love it, i get to stay up-to-date on what's going on in the film industry. I even usually read all the talkback posts for articles that interest me. But this time, no can do. For some reason, in the past week, the whole site seems to have lost all objectivity. And this thread is just God awful. Whatever happened to entertainment? I mean I hate Celine Dion as much as the next guy but people are still entertained by her stuff, good for them. I don't tell everybody I can that her songs suck or that she's an idiot. We shouldn't do this for movies or actors or any artists no matter how much we don't like what they do. I mean opinions are fine but propaganda is maybe a bit heavy for supposed to be mildly enjoyable at best. Tell me what the movie is about, what you liked ans disliked but please keep your "contrction" hat on, give us something to work with. I'm not sitting in church, I don't want all the answers, I want clues and ideas.
Take a vacation, come back happy, keep up the good work. -
Lillard takes his shot at Harry and AICN today. It's also over on sci-fi.com
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I agree with the principle a good story can save a bad actor. . .i mean if freddy prince had a bit more of sound project choice, i'm sure we'd consider him better. I would't say Prince was the entire reason his movies weren't good, they just weren't good at all. Horrible script and direction ALWAYS spell bad film. Take brad pitt for example. I'm not bashing his acting abilities, but there's a reason he became a megastar, and it's not because of his acting. But he has extremely good taste for choosing projects. Se7en, 12 monkeys, legends of the fall, fight club, snatch, and he's gonna be in the upcoming Ocean 11. Freddy Prince if you read this start taking notes, it could work wonders for your career.
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Hate to do a shameful promotion, but what the fuck. It's true, it's become the cool thing to do around here, hate the "pretty boys" and "blockbusters," love the "hot chicks" and "Low-budget piece of shit films that are actually made for some God only knows reason." Oh and another thing, should I see more hateful things to Mr. Prinze or company, I shall eat your liver. Now check out this site, they beat AICN to the punch half the time, if not who gives a fuck, they get it about a minute after. http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/mainFramed.html
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And I ain't talkin' about BeetleJuice this time! Some of you who are rushing to Prinze's defense don't get it, so I guess I have to say it in ALL CAPS: THE VAST MAJORITY OF US WHO STRONGLY DISLIKE/HATE HIM ARE NOT ESPECIALLY JEALOUS OF HIS RELATIONSHIP OR HIS LOOKS. YOU DON'T SEE THE MASSES RIPPING BRAD PITT OR BEN AFFLECK OR TOM CRUISE A NEW ONE. WHY? BECAUSE THEY MORE OR LESS DESERVE THE STARDOM THAT THEY HAVE. GOT IT, FUCKERS? SEE, FREDDIE IS EMBLEMATIC OF HOLLYWOOD OBSTINANTLY FORCING DRIVEL DOWN THE PUBLIC'S COLLECTIVE THROAT, AND GUESS WHAT--A LOT OF PEOPLE SWALLOW IT. (Yes, that was supposed to have innuendo) WE, BEING THOSE WHO BASH HIM, ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE HE IS CONFOUNDING LOGIC. BUT PLEASE, BE THICK-HEADED ABOUT THIS 'JEALOUSY' TRIP. IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL. ACTUALLY, I DON'T EVEN HATE HIM SO MUCH AS THE DIM-WITTED ANTAGONIST SONS OF BITCHES WHO 'CAN'T SEE WHAT'S WRONG', ONLY SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE PISSING EVERYONE ELSE OFF EVEN MORE. Have a nice weekend. Fuckers. P.S. I think Russell Crowe's an idiot, but he can act, and so therefore I don't bitch about his success. He wants to bang 'Cuntney' Love, he can. I'm not jealous. Really.
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once again, you guys cant seem to not just enjoy someone for what they are. I liked all of freddies movies, i have enjoyed them for what they were ment to be, an hour and a half of pure mind drivil that will make me forget that i have bills to pay, and really should be working insted of sitthing there and watching a VERY cute man say all the things that i wish a VERY cute man would say to me. is that wrong, i dont think so. SO grow up and leave the boy alone. gosshhhh dont you people have jobs or something. and stop bashing linnerd , he is fun to watch also
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isnt it sour grapes that you have to bag Freddie Prinze Jr and co, when your supposed to be a balanced writer? And for the record, Prinze may have had some stumbles, but most of his movies have been simple yet enjoyable films not asking for much and surely, they lost money but im doubtful it lost more money than say your beloved Pearl Harbour.
and for the record, i couldnt care less about lord of the rings, and rather see a Scooby Doo movie anyday -
I watch TRL and masturbate to a picture of carson daly. fred durst is the john lennon of my generation. backstreet is good, but nsync is way better. I shop at the gap. I use phrases like "da bomb" and "bling bling". I love "extreme" sports. i had a lobotomy. i named the pimple on my ass "kurt loder". I am a sucker of satans cock(hicks).One question: whats more pathetic?---people sticking up for freddie prinze jr, a freddie prinze jr movie, or the fact that i have taken all this time to respond to an internet cat-fight between harry and freddie. im getting bored....im getting bored....
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SO what are you to do when your getting a tongue lashing from a bunch of twirps who suck and have no idea of what they are talking about.... I feel that Harry did the right thing by defending his beliefs and letting "the truth set him free" haha. FAIRY PRINZE JR. and his buddy LILLY-WHATEVER can't deny the shit tat they have produced on the screen. I take it kind of personal when i spend 8 freakin' dollars to check out a movie that I could have pooped out better (which is and PRINZE JR. flick). And another thing....those of you who think Harry is swayed by his little visits to studios and screenings go take a look at his story about the ROLLERBALL screening. Keep up the good work Harry.... I'm one guy that will always have your back!! :)
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Why don't you tell your fan base why the real reason you're so mad at this flick? Your buddy was kicked off the script, and we didn't grease your palm, contrary to common belief, you're not the end all be all of film. Blair Witch would have been fine without you, Pitch Black would have been great without you, and Harry, SCOOBY DOO will fly without you too. And I'm not going to stoop to your level with "past" films, Mister Monkey Bone. So just go ahead and type away whatever venom you'd like in your parent's basement or whatever, and keep up your starf**king ways, and giving good reviews to those who pamper you. Sellout.
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I guess I can understand how you can try to make a point, Harry, and leave out information that does not fit into what you want to say. Given what you said about FPJ's movies are true, but you ignore the critcal and/or box office success of such movies as I Know What You Did Last Summer, House of Yes, and To Gillian... I adore The House of Yes and To Gillian. I even like She's All That, despite my hate for teen popularity movies. And I liked it because I found Freddie Prinze Jr. to be absolutely charming in it. I think you, on the other hand, are immature, childish, and jealous.
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