E.T. Special Edition rumor...
Hey folks, Harry here... the following is unconfirmed, but I do know that ILM and Spielberg have been tweaking away on E.T. for a while now. One change that I've heard about from very trusted sources is that every GUN in the film is being removed... Now, when the agents are brandishing guns, you will see Walkie-Talkies.... This is horrifying to me. What kid killed someone based upon Government Agents brandishing guns? Please point to a single incident please. This isn't change for improving the story... Hell, this actually hurts it. All of a sudden, dramatic tension will not be what it once was... I hate this style of revisionist filmmaking. However, the bit below... if true... could be interesting. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Hey Harry, happy Monday. First time sending you anything but I got a scoop from a friend who is doing some stuff at ILM. It's about the work they are doing on the re-release of E.T. and I don't know if it's good or bad....but this friend tells me that he was shown some AOTC stuff, and it should be said he's not a Star Wars fan at all, but he told me that it kicked major ass.....then he saw some work they were doing on revamping the F/X for E.T. and he reports that they are animating the face of our favorite little guy (E.T., not Henry Thomas) with CG. No joke! He wasn't sure if it was test work or if this is the path they have chosen but my pal was not sure how to take it. He said it looked good, very expressive and all but somehow unholy. I thought you should know about this as it kept me up all night chewing my blankets in fear that someone is tipping my holy cow. THIS IS NOT BULLSHIT!! MAY GOD STRIKE ME DOWN MINUTES BEFORE SEEING AOTC!! IT'S TRUE!!! OVER AND OUT - EROCK SKYWALKER
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Aug. 13, 2001, 8:31 a.m. CST
so i'll reserve comment on the use/non-use of guns in the film... but i could really care less what changes they make so long as the original version is still available in some way. if this is forever known as a Special Edition and nothing more, that's fine with me. They can make as many special/ultimate director's cuts of every film -- i don't care, so long as the original theatrical release is available too. It's not revisionism is the originals are still around for judgement purposes.
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:35 a.m. CST
by Ghost Who Walks
First Lucas, now Spielberg. The two men most responsible for many of our childhood film going memories are now butchering them along with those films. No guns? CGI animated faces? Fuck that!!! Does ANYONE see anything wrong with the original??? Jesus, I dread what they have planned for the "Raiders" special edition if and when that happens.
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:36 a.m. CST
i have a feeling all these special editions are a fad-- like how for a few years there was a rush of colorizing of old films. but we barely even see colorized films anymore, because even though the technique has gotten tons better -- people have gotten a lot more accepting of older, black-and-white films than they were just a years ago... as time passes and filmakers realize that these special editions "updated for the times" become just as dated (if not more) in a few years, they'll stop making them...
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:38 a.m. CST
It's just a shame that he still has the power to screw with his films of old. He knew it was perfect when he made it, now he's old feeble and unable to make decisions for himself.
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:50 a.m. CST
by Mike K
Spielberg owns a very large collection of guns, and yet he is removing them from his film so he can appear to be politically correct. Why do some people preach against issues in public, and yet they are the first to indulge in them in private? Censorship is a horrible thing, and it is even more disturbing when the artists themselves censor their past work.
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:54 a.m. CST
by Captain Katanga
This is garbage!!! I've heard Spielberg quoted as saying there will be know replacing of ET with CGI, and I'm sure that extends to changing his face. Spielberg isnt a fool. The guns being removed rumour reminds me of Lucas making Greedo shoot first... its just as idiotic, and I refuse to believe that Spielberg would do this to a classic film. If, however, he were to use cgi to seamlessly upgrade some of the now slightly dodgy looking flying bicycle shots, this would be fine... but ET's face? Rubbish, he knows it was perfect first time round!
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:56 a.m. CST
by Rugose Cone
"I never liked how that spooky smile turned out, so we're going to use the latest technology to get rid of it. We also took this opportunity to give the old girl some eyebrows. And Greedo shoots first."
Aug. 13, 2001, 8:59 a.m. CST
in fact it sucks! It's going to look fake and shitty, even if it IS the best ILM has to offer, the CGI will still be too bright and intrusive. It'll suck the way the Exorcist you've never seen sucks! It'll suck the way Star Wars Redux Sux! I never thought E.T. was so hot in the first place, but I watched it a month ago and it really held my attention, and while certain things in it looked a little fakey, that's OK because it was 1983 or whatever, and it all looked "of a piece" and it looked fine. the last thing this classic movie needs is a bunch of PC fiddling and general fucking about to "improve" what was the best looking fake vinyl alien head, up to that point!
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:01 a.m. CST
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Aug. 13, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST
by Dark Howler
I'm looking forward to seeing E.T. again on the big screen. It's been a long time since I last saw this film, but I don't remember there being that many guns being touted by the agents. However, I did hear that Spielberg has never liked the fact that the agents point guns at the kids, as if the kids were actually a threat. That's why he's replacing the guns with walkie-talkies. Personally, I don't care what the agents have in their hands. It doesn't change the story one bit. On the other hand, the CG animated face on E.T. has me a bit concerned. Hopefully, it's only subtle animation to enhance his features and not something that clearly looks computer-generated and out of place.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:12 a.m. CST
by Captain Katanga
and he's going with FULL CGI for the big f*cking elephant.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:17 a.m. CST
There should be laws to stop crap like this! If Spielberg does this shit for real I will officially have lost all respect for him. And if AOTC is nothing short of a masterpiece the same goes for George.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:26 a.m. CST
by Bad Guy
If Spielberg didn't like the Feds pointing guns at the kids then why'd he have them do it in the first place? Seems kind of silly to me. Next we'll get a CGI shark in "Jaws" and CGI aliens at the end of "Close Encounters", sheeesh!!! And as someone else pointed out, E.T. was expressive enough." We don't need no stinkin' computer generated eyeballs!" I wonder if they're going to include the scene with Harrison Ford as Elliot's Principal. But what I'm really looking forward to them putting back in, is the scene where a CGI Jabba the Hutt threatens Harrison... now that could be pretty cool.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:28 a.m. CST
Do any of you realize WHY senor Spielbergo is removing the guns? He mentioned this on the (I believe) Saving Private Ryan DVD so this is rather old news. When I first heard this rumor (like over a year ago), I didn
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:28 a.m. CST
It's not like he's remaking Dawn of the Dead- IT'S HIS FUCKING MOVIE. If he wants to make changes that the fans hatem that's his problem and his profits will suffer for it. If he has a vision which he genuinely thinks will improve his film, more power to him. If you don't like it, tough shit.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:35 a.m. CST
Where will this all end ? Jabba shot first (crap...way to go making Han less cool, George) the guns in E.T. being eliminated, Disney trying to pretend "Song of the South" never existed (It's true, I had an American guest at my house over the weekend who was amazed that the film is still widely available here in the UK). What next ? The Jaws shark is saved by Greenpeace hippies ? Indy doesn't shoot the big swordsman in "Raiders" but talks him out of his hostility ? Leave the damn film ALONE Steven ! It's fine, honestly, the 50 million or so people who've already seen in since 1982 can't all be wrong. If you want to do anything to it, put the bath sequence back. I've only ever seen that sequence while standing in line for the ride at Universal, and the people in front of me were talking, so I never got the dialogue.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:36 a.m. CST
Two reasons why I will never part with my laserdisc player: STAR WARS TRILOGY: THE DEFINITIVE COLLECTION and the E.T. Box Set. And now Apple has DVD Studio Pro. You figure the rest out.
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:47 a.m. CST
Fisrt off, Spielberg, like most of I guess he'll have to remove the gun's from Saving Private Ryan in 17 years too! This is crap, utter smoking shit!!! Hollywood's elite are hypocrites! They preach enviromentalism, but drive huge ass limos and SUV's (and I for one have nothing against that, but DO NOT preach one thing and do another!!!). They talk gun control and banning handguns, but have PERSONAL BODYGAURDS and armed security at home and abroad!!! That's great, I tell you what, you pay for MY personal bodygaurd and I'll give up my weapon!
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:17 a.m. CST
by Bruce T Shark
they don't have to justify the expense of re-releasing a classic film by adding new scenes or special effects. All we the viewing public want, is a pristine restored print that will take us back to the first time we saw it. Thats all we want. Period. I personally can't bear to watch The Special Edition of A New Hope and don't get me started on the new sound mix on my Jaws DVD. To quote Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park "They got so caught up in whether they could do something, they didn't stop to think if they should." I do hope this story turns out to be false because if it's true, whats next; a rock soundtrack added to Metropolis.
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:42 a.m. CST
ET is just 60-million bucks away from topping Star Wars in the #2 position of "Top Grossers Of All Time." And 200 million away from Titanic's #1. A masterfully marketed gee-whiz-slam-bang special edition theatrical rerelease could push it over the edge, making ET the highest grossing film of all time (in America, at least). That's at least until Star Wars is rereleased again (which it will be, in 2003, on Imax screens -- oops, I let out a secret...) As for the removing-guns issue, Spielberg suggested that he'd do this several years ago, saying (something to the effect of) "If I could change one thing, I wouldn't have the agents point their guns at the children." But will he re-integrate (and possibly expand, through CGI)Harrison Ford's appearance as Elliot's principal?
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:48 a.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:55 a.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2001, 11:17 a.m. CST
jeez people, are you listening to yourselves? "don't take out the guns" and in the same breath "put in harrison ford". so which is it? do you want changes or do you not want changes? and lets face facts, movies are CONSTANTLY changed. CEOT3K was re-released with changes. star wars when it was rereleased the summer before empire was changed. in fact, most movies from that era had different cuts for different parts of the country so my childhood memories are different than yours. bottom line, it's his movie, let him do whatever the hell he wants with it. i for one have more important things to do than lose sleep over this...
Aug. 13, 2001, 1:06 p.m. CST
re Metropolis....they already did that, (damn that Georgio Moroder)AND they colorised the print. I bought the offensive tape back in the late eighties, when it was the most complete print then available. I was only ever able to watch it with the sound off and the color down. Vile, man...really vile.
Aug. 13, 2001, 1:15 p.m. CST
Spielberg's right on this one. When E.T. was released in 1982's Reagan era, federal agents DIDN'T gun after little kids. They pretty much respected their own Constitutional limits. The modern sort of shameless Orwellian fascism only started happening to America in the 90's when Spielberg's Bilderberger buddy Bill unleashed his empire of Rhodes scholar elitism and sicced his attack dog Janet "Ms. Nazi" Reno on Elian and the Waco children. THAT's the sort of real-life gun-toting federal agents that prove gov't is never to be trusted as our savior. If only a real-life Delorean enabled Steve to go back and digitally erase those incidents of totalitarian shame, SS wouldn't be able to continue his reign as Hollywood's #1 billionaire hypocrite leftie. I love his 70s-80s classics but this past decade of Oscars has been his decline into P.C. overindulgence. Will he erase Craig T. Nelson's Reagan book in the Poltergeist Special Edition, and replace it with Jimmy Carter's memoirs? Gary Oldman was perfectly accurate when he blasted the arrogant "limousine liberal" politics of the Dreamworks regime. Talented entertainers for sure, but they needn't preach us their enlightened Hollywood wisdom as we've had just about enough to gag on, thanks.
Aug. 13, 2001, 1:21 p.m. CST
That guy back there said however screwed up the government is, they wouldn't point a gun at a kid. What about that picture the decked out guy with the gun a few inches from Elian Gonzalas's face? I watched E.T. recently and I remember that scene and it didn't bother me. You could hear the mother screaming, "No guns! They're only children!" and they were never fired and I don't think they were ever even really pointed at the kids.
Aug. 13, 2001, 1:29 p.m. CST
Someone got in and mentioned Elian before me.
Aug. 13, 2001, 1:52 p.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:08 p.m. CST
Why???? Ever since gerbil-headed George Lucas decided to put stupid little floating robots into Star Wars he changed everything. Just re-release the movie the way it was. I hate this crap
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:08 p.m. CST
Coppola redid Apocolyps Now, but Lucas and Spielberg have convinced him that he needs to really screw with a classic and add CGI to stay friends with them. So, he's decided to redo the GODFATHER TRILOGY--with CGI, none the less. PETA's convinced him to get rid of the horse's head in Jack Woltz's bed. Now, in the Italian Restruant, Solozo and McClusky try to shoot Michael first, but he dodges both shots and THEN shoots them. All other references to guns have been replaced. Now, instead of guns, the Mafioso hold cans of tomato paste or sausages and cheese in their hands. And worst of all, we find that in Godfather II, Michael doesn't have FREDO killed, but a clone of FREDO. It will now be FREDO, and not that crazy Sicilian, who tries to shoot Michael at the end of Godfather III. Any scene with Robert Duvall in the first two films will be digitally replaced with George Hamilton from III. I can't wait to see the new and improved Godfather Trilogy!
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:11 p.m. CST
I don't care anything about the guns as long as Atari also re-releases their 2600 "E.T." game as well. Damn, that game rocked.
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:12 p.m. CST
let us compare the difference between elian and e.t. the movie. e.t. - some hapless kids trying to hide an alien, government agents in no harm. CHRIST! even the PARENTS wanted the kids back and the officers were there to try and get the kids back. elian - a really psychotic family and town were telling the government that if they came to take the child and take him to his rightful parent, that there would be resistance and that they would put up a fight. now, given those variables and what needed to be done, although sloppy, the government went in and did the right thing. and if anyone thinks that those guns were pointed at elian, you really should have your heads examined. those agents went in and had to be ready to protect themselves (since they were threatened after all). but thats beside the point. e.t. is being changed. it's spieldbergs movie, let him do whatever he wants to with it... jeez people...
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:20 p.m. CST
by Erock Skywalker
Seriously....my source told me that he was unsure of what context this CG stuff was being used in and I think I made that pretty clear in my post...maybe they're thinking of tweaking a few shots....maybe it's for some more crappy E.T. car insurance ads! But the fact is, my friend saw what he saw and no matter what you people want to believe this guy has no reason to lie.
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:41 p.m. CST
I've had enougth of this shite now!!! By all means clean the print, bring out fresh negatives, hell, you can even remix the sound to full DD or DTS but don't fuck up the look of the movie!! Just because the film's you made of old (Lucas, you listening?) remind you that you had the ball's back then to break convention and that now you have to work to your 'demographic', whatever the fuck that means. Dont go buggering up my memorys of a great movie just to sooth your conscience about something which is considered un-PC today. On a similar note, they have had a series on the BBC here in blighty called 'I love 70's' and on the '74 episode they talked about Blazing Saddles and how they couldn't make a movie like that any more dispite how funny it was. Does anyone know of plans by Mel Brooks to go back, remove all use of the word 'Nigger' and replace Cleavon Little with an Arab 'cos they are the new bad guys in Hollywood today? Course not. Mind you weirder shit seems to happen in L.A. these days?? Pearl Harbor got greenlighted after all......
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:45 p.m. CST
Coppola just redid Apocolyps Now, but apparently Spielberg and Lucas are mad that he didn't use any CGI improvements. Apparently, he has to use CGI and screw with a classic to stay friends with them. So, he's decided to "redux" the Godfather Trilogy. For example, the Mafia will no longer brandish guns, but spoon fulls of Pasta. The one scene that will keep guns will be when Michael shoots Sollozo and McClusky in the Italian Restaurant... however, now both Sollozo and McClusky shoot first, and Michael dodges both shots before returning fire. PETA has convinced Coppola to remove the horse head from Jack Woltz' bed. He now wakes to find his pajamas covered in tomato paste instead of blood. And Michael no longer has Fredo killed at the end of part II, but a Fredo clone made by Hymen Roth. It is Fredo, not the crazy Sicilian assassin, who tries to shoot Michael at the end of part III. Likewise, he has decided to replace any scene with Robert Duvall from the first two films with George Hamilton's character from Godfather III. Kay will now be brandishing a NARAAL pin when she tells Michael about the abortion, and to add some humor, Robert DiNiro will be taken out of all of his scenes as the young Vito Corleone in part II, to be replaced by Roberto Bunigni. Moe Green will be replaced by a completely CGI character... Jar Jar.
Aug. 13, 2001, 2:58 p.m. CST
(If you can, cue up Khatchaturian's "Saber Dance" while reading this.) Not only will this film have the Harrison Ford teacher cameo, but Henry Thomas is going to be digitally replaced by that ultimate replicant, Haley Joel! Expect a mechanical octopus to make an appearance, as well as an ending where E.T. dies on the operating table, but when he comes back to life, he gives a yellowed, taped-together letter written by Marty McFly. Expect to see Marty and Doc Brown to fly over and wave to the kids, right after E.T.'s mothership departs. And expect to see Drew Barrymore circa '81 replaced by a trashy Drew from '01, with Tom Green tonguing the frogs in Elliot's class. Oh, and did I forget about Elliot's brother being replaced by Roger Rabbit and Tom Hanks being digitally inserted as Elliots benevolent father? Next time, we'll look at "The Happy, Friendly Poltergeist: Hugs and Kisses From Beyond".
Aug. 13, 2001, 3:45 p.m. CST
Now we can no longer portray officials as having guns in a "family movie..." Spielberg really wants our nation's children to be a bunch of sheltered imbeciles who could never make it in the real world. In fact I seemed to get that vibe when I saw A.I.
Aug. 13, 2001, 3:50 p.m. CST
See the Oscar nominated documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" if you don't think our government has ever pointed a gun at a child.
Aug. 13, 2001, 4:06 p.m. CST
In the halloween scene, the kid dressed in black as a "commando" was already removed from the video/laserdisc version a couple of years ago (without telling anyone).
Aug. 13, 2001, 4:17 p.m. CST
by The Lorax
That gun shot always sent chills (good chills) down my spine. $%^&$#$ Spielberg.
Aug. 13, 2001, 4:37 p.m. CST
Hehe! Somehow, I think this is just a mix-up. Speilberg was the one who kept a sequel from being produced.
Aug. 13, 2001, 5:01 p.m. CST
This can't be real, the guns play such a insignificant part in the film.. i have seen alot of PG films with gun play.. and if memory serves me correct. I don't even remember a shot being fired in E. T. I call Bullshit!
Aug. 13, 2001, 6:12 p.m. CST
Not only is Spielberg gonna eliminate the gun scenes in "ET," but earlier on in the movie, he plans to erase the Dungeons & Dragons game and replace it with Vampire: The Masquerade. In an interview a few years back, Spielberg expressed regret over his earlier allegiance to the d20 system and decided that the Storyteller system matched with the way he was developing as a, well, storyteller. Plus it will pull in the goths.
Aug. 13, 2001, 7:15 p.m. CST
by Bad Guy
Greedo shooting at Han first? A different version of Close Encounters with a new ending? Blade Runner without the voice-over. What?? Oh... I see, uh, nevermind.
Aug. 13, 2001, 7:38 p.m. CST
by user id indeed!
Seriously, this is pisser. I also hear that in respect to that kid who got his arm ripped off a couple months back, Spielberg will officially replace the shark in the film "Jaws" with Alfonzo, the scuba diver who scares people by squirting ketchup at them! The fin will actually be a halucination brought on by the ketchup. Clever, no? And while such digital replacements cannot yet be justified for one of the defining films of the last great war, Spielberg will supposedly add an alternative ending to "Private Ryan" in which Private Ryan suddenly wakes up in his bed and realizes that WWII was just a dream. He looks out his sunny window and sees Hitler washing windows on the curb. The camera happily pulls away to the soaring tunes of Gary Wright's "Dream Weaver". Thank you, Spielberg, for protecting our children's future by raping our childhood past! This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed!
Aug. 13, 2001, 8 p.m. CST
Yeah, he's actually going to put the real BeetleJuice from the Stern show in, digitally replacing that schmuck Michael "I'mBatman...!" Keaton. See, he appears when you say his name three times, but the only way to get him to disappear is to get him to say his name successfully three consecutive times. "Hey, dude, I been dead like forty four time, dude. Me? I's real smart an' I smart as a motherfucker in Spanish...I bang the shit outta your daughter, dude, in like thirty seconds. I die in an hour everyday in like twenty seconds. When you die, you get a big head like me. When you die, you drink, smoke weed, get laid in six month, ev'ryding. Me? I like to party forever, dude...Tom Barton? He think he a tough guy, but I put him in the movie with the monkeys and then we see who's a tough guy..."
Aug. 13, 2001, 9:56 p.m. CST
If this is true, I will lose what little respect I have for Spielberg. What little I do have is only because of films like ET, Close Encounters and Raiders. So if he goes back and messes with those--the only proof he was ever a good storyteller--then the director I once admired is dead to me! I watched ET just a few weeks ago and was impressed by how well it's stood up. I always thought it was completely plausible to have the agents pointing guns. This story is told from a kid's point of view and adults, especially authority figures, are scary. The government will do whatever to get back what it wants. They perceived E.T. as a threat that Elliot was harboring and the government's idea of dealing with a threat is a gun. Of course, this was when Spielberg had a healthy distrust of the government. Look at Close Encounters, it's the same way. The end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It was a theme running through many of his films. Then of course, he became Mr. Democrat and decided to preach to the unwashed. As for E.T.'s face...I always watch the movie wondering how bad E.T. is gonna look and he still is as amazing as before. It won't match, just like the Star Wars: Special Edition doesn't match. That, at least, was fun as a novelty. This is just wrong.
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:06 p.m. CST
Back in those days , he and Lucas thought of the police , feds etc as clamping down on their freedom , they were the pigs .Now Steves getting old ,getting a bit frightened , got some kids , owns some property and is a power in Hollywood , The police don't seem so bad.Theyre there to protect the big man.I detest this business ofgoing back and changing the stuff that Lucas and co did in the old days.Theyre not the same anymore and it shows.Sure I don't mind hearing them , say ..they regret making certain descisions , but to then actually go back in and alter the films themselves is halfway to a 1984 scenario.!Hes trying to change history!.Losing your balls and making increasingly safe entrertainment is one thing...but to go back and f**k up past glories is beyond a joke.
Aug. 13, 2001, 10:08 p.m. CST
I somehow think this reporter is a talkbacker. Prolly one of the major SW nuts looking for a way to vocalize his excitement for EpII. Didn't say a thing about E.T. other than some bogus garbage. Animating his face? Yeeeeeeeah. Go out and do something nerd.
Aug. 13, 2001, 11:44 p.m. CST
Ok. So first, Disneyland changes Pirates of the Carribean so that the pirates are chasing plates of food (not the "wenches") - Then Lucas pisses on our memories by adding CGI to the original "Star Wars" (I won't even go into the mass marketing toy strategy that is Episode One) - Now Spielberg... a guy whose films I love (save for "A.I.") and whose work had a huge impact on my desire to make films. What's next? The Fratelli Bros. in "The Goonies"? Will he CGI their guns away? PC is deader 'n disco. It was created by our parents. We can do without it. Leave it alone.
Aug. 14, 2001, 12:54 a.m. CST
by CRITICAL MASS
I think CGI would be better served in "E.T." by digitally eliminating C. Thomas Howell from ALL prints. Yes. C. Thomas Howell, the single most annoying youth actor in ALL of Eighties cinema, NOT including Ernest or Pee Wee Herman . . . Or Eddie Deezen, although his geekiness is funny. C. Thomas Howell For the Cutting Room Floor in '02.
Aug. 14, 2001, 4:10 a.m. CST
ET is one of my favorite movies of all time. It is such a magical movie and because of that I was really looking forward to the re-release. However if this is true - how can we enjoy the film as much as we used to? Who cares if the film has guns in it or not? I think that some of you liberal thinking Americans have to sort yourselves out! Your countries and constitution is built on guns. Can we expect the 20th anniversary re-release of Saving Private Ryan to have all its guns air brushed out? Or Indiana Jones's pistol removed? I mean really, Spielberg sort it out mate! Oh yes and is there any news as to wether the scene with Harrison Ford, playing Elliot's teacher, will be included? Anyway indiejones signing out
Aug. 14, 2001, 4:31 a.m. CST
by B A Fett
Steve, please don't fall into the revisionist trap like George did. You have too much originality and talent for that.
Aug. 14, 2001, 5:26 a.m. CST
None of the Batman films really ever got there the way the first three Superman films did. Burton was TOO dark 'n' brooding and Schumacher was TOO lite 'n' brite. So, here's a task for budding Phantom editors. Using all four films of the Batman Saga try to make one sprawling yet coherent film (or two tight films) that favours Clooney, keeps as much Batman whup-ass action as possible, excises as much whiney O'Donnell action, and toyetic costume changes as possible. String the Batman origin flashbacks from all four films together. Cut down the villain's roles and soliloquies. Keep the fun but not the camp and pathos but not the overwrought angst. Keep Batgirl to a minimum and resolve her arc in the third quarter. Try to make the main love interest Vicki Vale from the second quarter to the end. Tone down the horrendous Poison Ivy to a cameo, keep most of Catwoman, The Penguin, Two Face, The Riddler and Mr. Freeze but keep their origins to mere glimpses and weave their arcs with that of the main villain The Joker. If there's not enough Clooney reaction shots to work with in B&R then use other films such as From Dusk Til Dawn, One Fine Day, The Peacemaker or Out Of Sight and graft them over the appropriate backgrounds (oh don't baulk it's not THAT hard). For added fun you could even take the Onstar references out of the Bruce Thomas ads and mix those Onstarless commercials in. Anyone with an iMac with DVD player and iMovie should be able to do this easily. I'd do it but I'm too lazy. When you watch all four films there are some great moments and a LOT of fat. If we cut out the fat and streamline the narrative in the end I think we'd have a Batman film we can all be proud of. Filmmakers and studios have been showing us that the film is not finished even when it's finished. I see fan editing as another step in the process. The next evolution if you will. Don't give me the disrespect to art rant I've heard it and it's tired. Fan editors have shown us that we don't have to put up with films we're less than satisfied with. Now get cracking. LittleGreyAlien.
Aug. 14, 2001, 6:30 a.m. CST
by Mister Mysterio
If this is true, then I have officially lost all faith in him. He was once my favorite director, he's still on the list (since then, however, I have discovered the joys of Billy Wilder and Martin Scorsese) but why fuck with a classic? What are they gonna do next? Take out the scene where Elliot drinks beer? If they so much as change a credit on this thing, I am boycotting it. The effects are fine and need no improvement. The guns add dramatic tension. You must have known this at one point, Steve. I hope this is not true. Because if so, Spielberg, you are the biggest commercial whore of all time. If he fucks with E.T., then I shudder to think what he's gonna do with the Indy movies. Do us all a favor, Steve, leave it the fuck alone and just put it on DVD! You can do a commentary track, that'd be okay, but do not change a thing as far as the film is concerned. You pulled off some wonderful things with A.I., I trust you have better judgment than this.
Aug. 14, 2001, 6:30 a.m. CST
In this version, all the characters will have bread and birdseed placed onto their heads using cgi. See, the birds aren't trying to kill everyone, they're just hungry!
Aug. 14, 2001, 7:17 a.m. CST
I hate ET. Always have. Always will. Terribly manipulative tripe. The most manipulative scene in ET is that scene where the agents point their guns and are about to shoot at KIDS!!!! Huh??? Who shoots at little kids anyway? There was NO dramatic tension in that scene. Just desperate, 100 percent pure Spielberg manipulation. People here who are complaining that removing the guns is wrong are clueless and, I guess, are very easy to manipulate and enjoy being manipulated. Spielberg could delete the whole film and I'd be happy about it.
Aug. 14, 2001, 8:31 a.m. CST
Also expect the techno/r&b/hip hop remix album of John Williams score to sweep the board at next years grammies. yay.
Aug. 14, 2001, 8:35 a.m. CST
by Rhett Butler
What about colorizing Citizen Kane or putting a laugh-track on Some Like it Hot? Hell, they could even digitally insert a big Stan Winston Uber-Demon into The Blair Witch Project! The possibilities are endless. (Taste is not.)
with R. Kelly's stirling new rendition of 'I Believe I Can Fly' becoming the longest running number one single of all time. -shiver-
Aug. 14, 2001, 8:53 a.m. CST
in one breath "dont take out the guns" only followed by "are you putting the harrison ford scene back in?". which is it man, changes or no changes? i'll tell ALL you epople something, when you make your own movie, feel free to do what ever you wish with it. changing history? i still have my childhood memories of that movie that will never go away and in all honesty, even when i was TWELVE, i thought the feds brandishing weapons in BROAD DAYLIGHT to children RIDING BINKES was simply a a contrived tension builder. and FUCK ME but i am getting TIRED of people bad mouthing lucas and Spieldberg for changing THEIR MOVIES and yet applauding Apocolypse Redux. you GEEKS that scream "don't change" are also the same GEEKS that applaude their newest Platinum Edition DVD for all the extras or deleted scenes cut back into a movie. Boycott ET because there aren't GUNS?!?!?!? I'll be there with MY kids to share in the magic and help build THEIR childhood memories (i have mine, i dont need to relive them anywhere other then my mind) and I am sure Spielberg will sorely miss your $8.50.... bottom line people, CHILL THE FUCK OUT!
Aug. 14, 2001, 9:51 a.m. CST
I have seen ET countless times--and it is hands down one of the greatest movies of my time. I am disheartened to hear that Spielberg wants to take out the guns--it's not right! I hope this rumor is false. I will still go see it re-released on the big screen because the movie was made for the big screen and every time I see it it reminds me why I love movies.
Aug. 15, 2001, 10:15 a.m. CST
On the one hand I feel that Speilberg has every right to "revise" his own film. His reasons, however, are what upset me. This country, in an attempt to make every thing "nice" and clean, as if we all lived in the fuckin suburbs and drove the kids around in a minivan, is trying to revamp histoty a little at a time. There is a school somewhere in S. Carlonina that wants to ban "To Kill a Mockinbird" because parents have complained about the use of the "N" word (as we now call it). They miss the point that the book is about overcoming our predjudices. Have we all gone mad? We don't care about hate crimes towards minorities and Jews and teen rape and child abuse as much as a Fed with a fuchin gun in an old movie.
Aug. 20, 2001, 8:30 a.m. CST
This is not totally surprising; Spielberg took a cue when G.Lucas "cleaned up" Star Wars and TOTALLY FUCKED UP the Solo shootout with Greedo scene (we're now supposed to believe that Han wasn't at times a cold-blooded mercenary who had to shoot first to survive. No, it was a simple politically-correct case of self-defense, Your Honor). Gimme a break The last really, really fun movie Spielberg made was, "Raiders" (E.T. is vastly overrated and way too "sugary"). Comrade Spielberg is now letting you know just how progressive and enlightened he is and how you should "join him" on his path of empty-headed liberalistic brain-washing nonsense. As a fellow Eagle Scout, Spielberg pissed me off big time with his liberaler-than-thou attitude upon withdrawing his honorary Boy Scout title. Fine with me, Steven. You can't associate with the Boy Scouts because you disagree with their Supreme Court confirmation of their right to Freedom of Association? Then I can't associate myself with your celluloid drivel anymore either. You're nothing more than a 3rd-rate hack, Spielberg. You rank below Tim Burton (and that's pretty low). I used to really enjoy your early movies, but your recent insistence on oozing 30 pps (politics-per-second) has left me tuned out and turned off. Why don't you just TELL US A FREAKIN' STORY without all the subliminal [vote for Al Gore] crap that you seem hell-bent on [Clinton is our Saviour] pouring down my throat, especially with your fat-Rosie-O'Donnell-seal-of-approval [guns-are-evil-and-must-be-confiscated] E.T.? Spielberg, you have a First Amendment right to vomit whatever kind of mental bile you want your demographically-correct dumbasses to suck thru a straw. Just don't expect me to pay one more penny to see your 2-hour-leftist-political opinions. Good bye and good riddance.
Oct. 27, 2001, 5:40 a.m. CST
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