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Casting RUMOR about who would play Superman in the Wolfgang Petersen film WORLD'S FINEST

Hey folks, Harry here... Ok... Now I want to make this very clear... The following is an UNCONFIRMED RUMOR... But to lend a tad of validity to this rumor let me say that I've been hearing from multiple sources that the BATMAN YEAR ONE project is completely dead... That Warner Brothers is seeing this as the start of a larger franchise that would eventually give way to a JUSTICE LEAGUE film. I've heard this from about 3 different sources now... Having a director and writer attached in their announcement last week seems to indicate a desire to move quickly on this. Clooney is still signed for 2 more BATMAN movies. And they would want a name actor to place opposite him. All I know is if Travolta was going to do it... he'd have to work his ass off to get in a costume and drop his whole 'Aint I Cool' delivery. I just can't help but think that I would look at him and go... "Holy Shit, what's Barbarino doing in a Superman Costume?!?" But I think he is better than Cage, but not by much... Oh, Lord, Make a big wave...

I HAVE GOT SOME HUGE GROUND BREAKING NEWS ABOUT THE WORLD'S FINEST FILM!

Ok I know this story is going to sound crazy but well, I'm sending it in anyways. You can choose to believe it or not. I live in Daytona Beach, FL. Friday night I was sitting with my Girlfriend enjoying a nice Pizza dinner at our local Mom and Pop pizza palace. Now it's no secret that John Travolta has a house in Daytona. He also has so much land around it that he has a small airport behind his house. I have heard of Mr. Travolta and his family eating here before but was never lucky enough to catch him.

So anyways We are eating and behind me a family sits down. I had my back turned to them and with the way the booths are designed we couldn't see them. I didn't pay any attention to these people. UNTIL! A cell phone rings! I overheard a man with a soft voice talking about a Superman film. From what I could make of the conversation It was Travolta's AGENT ASKING HIM IF HE WAS INTERESTED IN PLAYING SUPERMAN!..John asked who was directing .. Then (excited) almost screamed WOLFGANG PETERSON!..Also from what I gathered George Clooney is going to be BATMAN!..John then said "I'll see you in L.A. on Tuesday morning".. Overall John seemed excited and it sounds like he wants the part (well from what I could tell sitting behind him)..I purposely made a restroom trip to see if this was indeed Mr. Saturday Night Fever.. And my friends it was!!!!

Travolta as SUPERMAN!,Clooney finally getting a good crack at the BAT! Wolfgang Peterson the director of the Best fantasy movie EVER! (Neverending story) Screw Year One, Batman Beyond, Dark knight, Triumphant .. This is the film we want!

M.D.N.

Micky Deez Nuts

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  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:53 a.m. CST

    FIRST AND UGH!

    by Number_6

    First the Batman Beyond edit, then the Wonka widescreen DVD debacle, now this. Just Damn.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:55 a.m. CST

    superfat

    by MrMajestyk

    travolta as superman? able to leap..no he can't fucking leap anything

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Batman & Fatman

    by dangit

    Am I supposed to say . . . oooh, I'm first. Sorry, I'm new to this. Who wants to see Travolta as Superman? Yech! He has way too far to go to get his porky butt in that costume. He has waaaay too far to go to look buff. And for that matter, who wants to see Clooney again. He was a crappy Batman in a crappy Bat flick. He doesn't deserve another chance to kill that franchise. The concept sounds neat, the casting . . . dreadful.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Batman & Fatman

    by dangit

    Am I supposed to say . . . oooh, I'm first. Sorry, I'm new to this. Who wants to see Travolta as Superman? Yech! He has way too far to go to get his porky butt in that costume. He has waaaay too far to go to look buff. And for that matter, who wants to see Clooney again. He was a crappy Batman in a crappy Bat flick. He doesn't deserve another chance to kill that franchise. The concept sounds neat, the casting . . . dreadful.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Any minute now, I'm going to wake up screaming and drenched in s

    by JonQuixote

    All these rumors, they just can't be true. They just can't. Travolta screaming in excitement at the name of Wolfgang Peterson is about as absurd as a jive-talking Alfred. Somebody's having fun with this site...not that I mind, 'cause comic talkbacks are always the most interesting.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST

    This can't be true!

    by Sgt. Bilko

    And if it is, you can hand out the golden Raspberry awards NOW.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!

    by RobinP

    .........ah (sniff) Jesus....wow !! That's a good one. That made my whole damn day go with a smile. John Revolta as Superman ? Bwaaaaaaaaahahahaha.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Why don't they just cast Wallace Shawn?

    by Rollo Tomassi

    He'd make a better Superman than Travolta. As weird as the idea was, Nicolas Cage would have been a much better choice. I don't believe this is true. Why would Warner Bors. want to involve John "Battlefield Earth" Travolta in a major franchise? It doesn't make sense. Plus, as has been pointed out several times, he doesn't exactly have the physique for it. Barbarino might make an interesting CLark Kent, but not Superman. I say John Cusack or Vince Vaughn should play the part.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Superman a Scientologist!!!!!!!

    by Dantana_Swat

    Maybe he & Bats can team up to fight the evil overlord Xenu & his legion of evil body thetans. Yeah! And we can meet Jor-El's long lost brother EL-RON!!!!!!!!! Yeah! Actually, Travolta may be the perfect casting choice; with his super scientology OT abilities, he can perform all his own special FX. It'll save the studio a fortune & more than balance out his 20mil price tag! And please, please God...I want Clooney to have his shot just like anybody else, but for a film of this scope we need the master behind the cowl....TV's Adam West (mayor of Quahog). Gotta go & run some engrams....see ya!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:08 a.m. CST

    World's Finest = double trouble crap on a stick

    by ARGH!

    I severly doubt the validity of this rumor; I don't think an agent would call Travolta's cell phone to tell him this kind of news when apparently his home is a few blocks away. How loudly would this conversation have to be for another person to hear it in full anyways? This is a crappy, crappy rumor; not too sound like everyone else, but he is too old and too damn fat, and even if he thins up, he's got a fat face. He'd be a decent Lex however...

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:13 a.m. CST

    oh yeah, one more thing...!

    by ARGH!

    Give Clooney a shot at Batman meng! Yes, Batman and Robin sucked, but Clooney's the only actor in it who will admit that it sucked! Batman creator, Bob Kane (who hated Batman and Robin), felt that Clooney was the pure essence of the character he created. Clooney is a good actor, but no one can act with pure sh*t.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:14 a.m. CST

    This makes The Fantastic Four movie look exciting...

    by scrote

    ...Revolting and Looney. What a combo! I am impressed.So now, let's spend the equivalent of the gross national product of Bolivia on this piece of crap. Jesus! Are there any fully-functioning adults left in Hollywood??

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:15 a.m. CST

    This is the biggest heap of shit i've ever heard.

    by Coatsy

    Travolta as Superman? -Bollocks! I cannot believe i'm reading this.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Before they go and screw up two icons...

    by President_Chimp

    ...maybe they should figure out how to do just ONE right. This is a terrible mistake. We had 4 Batman films and the Bats got less lines than his butler. According to Batlogic: One good guy = at least 2 bad guys who get more screen time. So if we have Bats and the Big Blue Schoolboy, does that mean there will be 4 villians? And how are they going to portray Superman in the first place? Will it be their first meeting? Seems mighty odd to me to have these two powerhouses meeting so late into their careers. What this comes down to is that filmmakers are not willing to make a comic book movie that exists in a comic book world. For a film like this to work, it must be firmly established that this is a world where an untold number of super beings exist. Batman sure didn't do that, and neither did any of the Superman films. No matter WHO they cast, it'll be welcome to suckville.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:22 a.m. CST

    it could work

    by GadgetBoy

    After reading Harry's post, I ask my girlfriend: Do you see Travolta in a Superman costume? She says: mmm, yeah, but he's too fat...Well, think about it, if he could shade about 40 pounds, Travolta could be Superman. He has the face and the stature. Clooney? by far the best Batman, just give him good material.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:30 a.m. CST

    um

    by gah rides again

    Did everyone forget that Travolta lost a lot of weight recently?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:33 a.m. CST

    wtf?!?!!

    by hideki

    lets start by saying, should we trust a reviewer that stalks people in restaurant restrooms? seriously......and 2nd of all, seeing travolta airborne in a superman costume would be the equivalent of an elephant being airlifted, not gonna happen

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Not gonna happen

    by KingKrypton

    File this under "never." You'll see the Peters/Burton/DiBonaventura desecration of Superman before you see this fantasy. Besides, Travolta's too old now.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Worst. Idea. Ever.

    by rabid_republican

    Travolta as Superman. Clooney returns as the smirking and totally miscast Batman. Perhaps the title of the film would them be "World's Finest Botched Project". I pray to all that's holy this will never pull through. Meanwhile, the most disappointing news is the possibility the "Year One" project is dead...is there no justice. C'mon Darren, have you descency? I'm Rabid_Republican and this has been a public service announcement.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Yeah, But...

    by Anton_Sirius

    ...we didn't forget that Travolta has his head up his ass and would be unbelievably bad as Supes. I mean, c'mon. If it's a contractual thing then Clooney's in, fine, whatever, that could in theory work. But Travolta? Gaaah. Run, man-animals, run! Even Tom Hanks, if he buffed up a bit, would be a better choice, and I HATE Tom Hanks. Russell Crowe's the obvious pick, but he's probably TOO obvious. Man, though, can you imagine Crowe and Clooney doing a picture together? No woman in a fifty mile radius would be safe.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:53 a.m. CST

    This "scoop" sounds aout as credible as....

    by Comedian

    That B.S. posted about Year One a few days ago. Or better yet, that "scoop" about six months ago where some idiot wrote Harry and said he just happened to "bump into Paul Newman" waiting on line at the local cineplex. And Paul was talking about how he was gonna be Bruce in the Batman Beyond movie. I think I'll cook up some kind of goofy hoax ala War of The Worlds and send it to Knowles to see if he posts it or not. Ah, but whoever comes here (or even to Dark Horizons)for legitimate trade news is smoking crack anyway.. This site is all about the talkbacks anyway.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10 a.m. CST

    My Theory

    by timmer33

    Picture this: you're a studio exec. Wolfgang Petersen is making your Batman/Superman movie. You already have your Batman - Clooney. But who should be Superman? The costume sessions with Cage were pretty bad. So why not post a fake "spy" message on AICN regarding an overheard tidbit from a conversation between Travolta and his agent, and see what the fans think? If they like the idea, we'll contact Travolta. If they hate the idea, we'll try a similar rumour about Duchovny. What do you talkbackers think????

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:01 a.m. CST

    CGI superheroes!!!

    by Helos

    Let's face it--no human being can really breathe life into Superman. And I really can't think of anyone to do justice to Batman. So why cast human actors at all? Instead, let this project take the CGI route. Go to Alex Ross and model all the heroes, characters, and city-scapes after his designs. Cast the cartoon voice actors--they're certain qualified. Then turn to Paul Dini and Bruce Timm for the story. I'm serious. All the hopes that were let down by the Final Fantasy movie (finacial and otherwise) would be found in abundance here. CGI.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Wolfgang needs to......

    by blueman808

    make a new, darker Neverending Story. The book was very pg-13 while the movie series just kept getting more and more ridiculously geared for the bed wetting crowd. Wolfgang could maybe pick up where the first one left off and include the whole death of Atryeu and the fall of the ivory tower. If they made a bad ass flying DRAGON instead of a dog-dragon and they allowed Bastian to use his SWORD (instead of spraypaint from pt.2, sheesh) to kill Atryeu, then it would be more like the book and that book kicks ass. Fuck that, I'll make the movie my god-damn self............Wolfgang, eat your fucking heart out....WHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAH

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Superman should be played by...

    by Esteben

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, cast Peter Gross, the Canadian Mountie from Due South, as Superman. Check him out at IMDB and say that I'm wrong...couldn't be any worse than John Travolta.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Oh, just put Chris Reeve's head on the Rock's body.

    by user id indeed!

    What? They can do it. This would certainly put it to better use than an online bank commercial. Christopher Reeves IS Superman. No other actor today (or in the seventies, for that matter) could play him with the smug sense of style he did. As for Batman, I don't know if Clooney could play Batman without Marky being Robin. I head somewehere they have epileptic fits if they're farther than three feet from each other. Besides, Clooney was a bad Batman. The movie didn't make Batman look like a bad Batman, Clooney was very efficient in doing that himself, thank you kindly. Maybe Bruce could play it. Or maybe we could breed some new actor who looks like Batman via test tube or something. I dunno. Well, I'm off to go to church and ask God for revenge on my enemies now. This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! Don't forget Cool J, Jehovah! Or is that Iehovah? Eh, it's all Latin to me.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:26 a.m. CST

    No star could ever play Superman

    by JonQuixote

    Superman is an iconic figure, one with an image that is firmly entrenched in the public consciousness. A star, especially one with as much personality as Travolta, is also an iconic figure. The moment you put a Travolta, or Cage, or even a Russell Crowe in a Superman suit, people don't look at it and go "Superman!" They look at it and see Travolta playing Superman. And there is NO way around it. The only way to cast Superman is to use an unknown, an established actor whose on-screen personality has not been that far from Superman's, like Brendan Fraser, or an actor who has yet to become firmly entrenched in the public's eye, like a Heath Ledger or Luke Wilson. Personally, my money is on the last choice.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:34 a.m. CST

    My God... No...

    by Insane Tiki

    Holy Christ... because I haven't lost enough faith in Warner Bros.... I REALLY hope this isn't true. REALLY. John Travolta is one of the worst actors working in Hollywood right now. Having him as Superman... Must... Go... Lie down....

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:37 a.m. CST

    And here's why World's Finest is a bad idea

    by JonQuixote

    Primarily, we don't have a cinematic Superman right now. If Warners has the balls for a crossover movie like this, and I'm not totally adverse to the idea, they need to establish a Superman BEFORE they get to this point. Secondly, there's been no consistency to the Batman character - is he Keaton's psycho-Bats, Kilmer's statue-Bats, or Clooney's fonzie-Bats? I'm a Clooney fan to the point of my sexuality being called into question, but it's time to completely reboot BOTH franchises. And the way to do it is a Batman: Year One and a Superman: Year One. Followed by a sequel apiece. THEN a bad-ass World's Finest movie, which would have the best hype a multi-million dollar marketing machine could buy.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Mr.Kotter IS Lex Luther

    by Son Of Batboy

    What's this about Year One being dead???? Jive turkeys!!!! Da man just can't give a brutha a break.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Oh my hell.

    by bookiebob

    There isn't enough spandex in the world to stretch around Travolta.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Ben Affleck Is More Suitable

    by brokenspeaker

    Yuck!!! Travolta as Superman would be like his tits on a fuckin bull. It's the oximoron of all oximorons!!!!! I suppose it might work, maybe you can make him a chain smokin, royale w/ cheese eatin, disco dancin, and zero charismatic Superman. Watch as he takes on the wooden persona of George Clooney. This is a total fallacy, even Warner Bros has enough sense not to put Clooney and Travolta in the same movie... I hope. Batman: So you must be Superman? Superman: Ya, ain't it cool. What next Ben Affleck as an inebriated, negative zero charismatic Superman? That would be funny though, a Superman flying under the influence and bumpin into office buildings and airplanes and shit. That would be bad ass!! Scratch that, put Ben Affleck in as Superman, he might be able to redeem himself.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Anyone else having trouble loading the homepage with Netscape?

    by Son Of Batboy

    Only started during the past week. Everything seems to load but all I get is the background. Is this some friggin' plot to get me to switch to IE? Dem sumbitches!!! Damn them all to hell!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Fuck Batman and Superman....

    by Insanitus

    I wanna see a Cloak and Dagger Movie with Laurence Fishburne and that blonde woman from Planet of the Apes, that aint a rumour by the way i just want it made, even though Cloak and Dagger arent really A list comic characters....

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:25 a.m. CST

    What the fk!?! Are we living in Bizzaro land?!

    by Smugbug

    This is crazy! John Travolta as Superman is as crazy as Nick Cage as Superman. Goddamn this rumor. This had better be a rumor. Oh wait, I'm going back to bed, because this has to be a nightmare. And I'm going to wake up and slam down several beers and sign back on AICN. And this whole crap better be gone...........

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:33 a.m. CST

    I just had to weigh in on this one...

    by Falcon-1

    HAH, no pun intended on that one. Okay, first, I consider this rumor as nothing more than a steaming pile of dog-doo. These kinds of things aren't handled in crowded restaurants over a cell phone. No matter what "The Player" may have tried to make us believe about H'wood and the way deals are made; agents are supposed to be a little more discreet. That said, the idea of Travolta playing Superman is just ludicrous. I mean, he's just all wrong. I could see Cage as Superman in a Burton film because Burton is a nut-case and he got lucky with Keaton. But lightning rarely strikes twice in H'wood and I think ultimately the film would have been a failure. Besides, I hated the whole Death of Superman idea and felt it had no place being made into a movie. Of course, Clooney as Batman could work (again) simply because he does have the ability to pull off the dark, brooding character that has become a Bat-trait in recent years. Schumacher just didn't have the vision to create a great film when he had all the right tools to do so. I mean "Batman and Robin" had the potential (notice I said potential) to be great; but Joel-boy had other plans. Now, putting two of comics greatest icons on the screen in the same movie is something no one has ever attempted. The SFX alone would make the price tag on this movie enormous especially if this film is a Batman VS Superman story. But then, you add in the asking price for two of H'wood's biggest actors on top of that and you'd only have enough budget left for extras and stand-ins to play the supporting roles. So far, the best idea I've seen out there has been to have unknowns play the two heroes. But then, Clooney's contract situation messes that up. I guess I'm getting like another poster up above who said he's getting indifferent to the idea because no one in H'wood knows how to handle comic characters without giving them some psychological trauma or making them more human so "the audience can better identify with them". I didn't see Richard Donner doing that with "Superman - the Movie" and most people agree that film was by far the best comic adaptation to date. NOTE TO H'WOOD EXECS: approach your subject matter with the reverence it deserves and the audience will respond in kind. And for those who have stuck with me all the way to the end of this rambling post, you can now ignite those flame-throwers.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Did everyone forget that both George Reeves and Adam West both l

    by DarthSnoogans

    So have Clooney put on about 30 pounds and go from body armor to sweat-inducing spandex. Then make it a comedy, have the both of them take frequent near-coronary breathers while chasing around the baddies. Seriously though, Clooney should take no blame for B&R (As its two fans lovingly refer to it). Yeah, he was horrible in it, but has anyone seen the movie lately? I saw it last night for only the second time, and you can the poor man really tried. But what can you do when "Batnipples" Scumacher is off-camera the whole time, shouting instructions to bob his head 20 times per second while Tim Burton's violating him with a Milwaukee Sawzall?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:48 a.m. CST

    everyone hated the Keaton casting originally

    by coop

    I am not all pro Travolta but I do see it as possibly working. I just saw the boy in the plastic bubble on tv again yesterday and he can play the nerdy shy type. All he would really need to do is lose weight, work out, and think back to his earlier acting days before everything was played larger than life. Also Clooney needs to be given a chance with a good Batman film. ...Oh and Give up on Netscape losers, it's over. Come into the 21st Century.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Fat Pie-Eating Scientologist Superman. Hey WB, that's so bad it

    by El Tronerino

    Fooey!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:54 a.m. CST

    and Keaton was the worst choice ever!

    by Havok2000

    Nothing against Keaton but his pouty lipped, permy haired goldfish faced disaster of a portrayal is one of the biggest jokes of all time. He looked more like Batgirl. Clooney, Alec Baldwin, Chris Reeves, Tom Cruise --- these are actors who can POSSIBLY credibly bring off a superheroic persona.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 12:06 p.m. CST

    A man-animal getting leverage over a superhero?

    by Ogami Itto

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 12:08 p.m. CST

    more casting thoughts

    by Havok2000

    BTW, has anyone ever noticed that the best casting successes in comic/action movies have usually come when they MADE an action star out of someone who was right for the role - Chris Reeve as Superman, Keanu Reeves in Speed etc. The worst results occur when they just get the biggest (perceived) star name for the role. For Superman at this point, Lorenzo & Company should take a shot with MAKING a star instead of using one - and although I'd add Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and Ben Bratt to the list of actors who might play some superhero (B.A. as the Guy Gardner GL would be great for instance, maybe Matt Damon for Kid Flash/Flash) as in, they have the basic physique, charisma and larger than life persona, the real first actor who comes to mind for Superman, tho he might be considered too old by some, would be Chris Noth.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Travolta?!?!? No! But how about...

    by zenda

    Never! He's looks too old. Some names mentioned here were good: Ben Affleck, Paul Gross or even Benjamin Bratt. But why ignore the perfect choice to play the Man of Steel again...Dean Cain. Even if you bring no one else back from "Lois and Clark", he was a GREAT Superman!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Travolta?

    by Mr. Mischief

    That worse than Nic Cage as Superman. George Clooney as Batman i can stand, but travolta. Let him go and make Battlefield Earth 2, at least he won't ruin a good name like Superman, he'll just be ruining a franchise that was crappy from the start. For some reason, one part of me says not to make this movie because no one can replace Chris Reeves as Superman. Every big name actor i can think of (Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe, Bruce Willis) don't seem to be the kinda actor that can pull off the Clark Kent side of Superman. If they wanted to go younger, like around Keanu Reeves or Freddie Prinze Jr. age, than you could find some young guys would could play the part. But for the love of all things holy, NOT TRAVOLTA!!!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Saturday Night Superman

    by rcfuzz

    Travolta as Superman...what a God-awful idea. Are they out of their fucking minds? Let's expand on this lunacy. Drew Carey has the Clark Kent look down - why not give him a shot? How about Rosanne as Wonder Woman? Better yet, Rosie (ban all guns, except for my bodyguard's) O'Donnell as Cat Woman. Gary Coleman as Robin ("What you talking about, Batman.) Give me a break!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Travolta needs to get off his tubby Scientologist ass and get ba

    by Monkey_King

    He also needs to realize that the universe and Hollywood don't revolve around him and wife Kelly Preston. This part could go to anybody, but in the case this "casting rumor" is true, he needs Stallone's services again quickly. Stallone BTW would make an awesome career comeback if he did a film version of Rutledge Etheridge's LEGEND OF THE DUELIST(with better realized aliens of course).

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:16 p.m. CST

    sorry, fellas, but my thoughts are...

    by cifra2

    Travolta is an almost perfect choice. He just have to lose weight... he's a talented actor and has the charisma. Otherwise, I was hoping to find an older Superman. Anyways, the perfect Superman was, is and will always be Christopher Reeve, one of the best casting choices ever.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Let's hope this is pure (pulp) fiction.

    by Freya

    As eeeeeeeeevrybody has said in the above posts, this is horrible, horrible, horrible. The agent is either on serious crack or he's trying to get himself fired. Which is a pretty wise idea.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Travolta is a good actor...

    by Elliot_Kane

    but he is a bit old to be playing Superman. Ten years ago, maybe, but not now. As for Clooney, he should never have been cast as Batman. He is about as menacing as a toothless hamster. They definitely need a pair of unknowns to do the leads.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:27 p.m. CST

    The problem with BATMAN AND ROBIN wasn't just Schumacher but Clo

    by Spacesheik

    George Clooney is good looking but he doesn't have the gravitas, the angry 'Dark Knight' scowl, the near-psychotic element in Bruce Wayne, that, say a Michael Keaton had. I think the problem with Clooney are his mannerisms (the smirk, the neck movements etc) - he just wouldn't be right. John Travolta as Superman? I could see that, the golden boy smile, the charm, etc, but he would have to lose weight (he already looks slimmer in the shitfest SWORDFISH so obviously he is on a diet). Come to think of it, George Clooney should be Superman and a psychotic John Travolta (a la Face Off) should be Batman - reverse the roles I say. Even though this rumor sounds like bullshit...

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:27 p.m. CST

    AHHHH before everyone goes off on a rant....

    by JUSTICE41

    Haven't read all the posts so bear with me.Maybe Travolta is being cast as The Joker. Anyone think of that? Remember in the funny books the two heroes had to face there respective arch nemesis.Would only make sense if Travolta is being looked at for the Joker role. Wonder who's going to be cast as Lex Luthor? Anyway, my two bits.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I'm with Jon Quixote, this has all got to be some kind of dream.

    by Village Idiot

    There's no place like home...There's no place like home...Oh, but it wasn't a dream! It was a place! A place where Batman was an Avenging Disco Godfather described to me by a half-literate, and that scary guy who was on the cover of that women's magazine you kept seeing in the supermarket checkout last month was Superman. And you were there Jon Quixote--and you Vroom Socko--and Superninja and Buzz Maverick...Oh but anyway Toto, we're home! And this is my room, and you're all here! And I'm not going to leave here because I love you all! Oh Auntie Em, there really is no place like home!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Oh come on

    by Theta

    This is so friggin' fake I can't believe it. Sorry, I just don't buy this. What's Travolta going to do, lose twenty pounds to fit in the suit and get severe plastic surgery so his face would look right? It'd make more sense to commit a small travesty and let him keep his hair, but let him play Luthor. He'd be a good Luthor. Not nearly as good as Kevin Spacey, of course, but if we have to have Travolta in "World's Finest", I'd hand him that role.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I haven't laughed so hard since. . .

    by Hardyboy

    . . .AICN posted the news that Jean-Claude Van Damme was being considered to replace Pierce Brosnan as James Bond. Come on! This has GOTTA be a joke on some level. And to defend George Clooney: he LOOKED like Batman, but he was stuck with Akiva Goldman's awful script and directed to play the Bat the way Schumacher wanted him to. Remember, before B & R came out, Schumacher was quoted as saying something like "the operative word in 'comic book' is COMIC." Any director with THAT mentality shouldn't be let anywhere near a comic book adaptation.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:44 p.m. CST

    A Batman/Superman movie?

    by TheZeppoGuy

    Oh god, please say it ain't so! Especially with Clooney as Batman still? Go suck up to Kilmer as much as you can, find a much better person to play Supe, and maybe I'll see it. I'd take a good Batman Beyond over this anyday.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:46 p.m. CST

    by I AM CHEWBACCA

    I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD STICK WITH WHAT HAS WORKED BEFORE, ADAM WEST AS BATMAN AND CHRISTOPHER REEVE AS A PARALISED SUPERMAN COZ HE SWALOWED SOME KRYPTONITE OR SOMETHING. BUT SERIOUSLY, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD TRY AND GET MICHAEL KEATON BACK AS BATMAN COZ HE IS SUCH A GOOD ACTOR BUT HE HASNT GOT ANY DECENT PARTS FOR A FEW YEARS. I COULDNT SAY WHO COULD PLAY SUPEMAN, MAYBE RAY LIOTA, DEFINATELY NOT TRAVOLTA, HE HAS THE WRONG SHAPE FACE AND SUPERMAN WOULD NEVER LOOK THAT OLD. I THINK THE IDEA FOR THAT MOVIE SUCKS ANYWAY

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:53 p.m. CST

    ugh! travolta? superman? ah christ.

    by Coopcooper

    could you honestly tell me that travolta would be a better superman than nic cage? at least cage CAN act when he wants to and has the capacity to have a muscular build. i could just see travolta with his smug grin talking in his annoying voice and making me want to vomit. this is the worst news i've heard in quite some time. hollywood is full of idiots.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Year 1 is not dead.

    by DIRTMAN

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:02 p.m. CST

    but Travolta almost is.

    by DIRTMAN

    Harry would look better in THAT suit than J T.....REALLY.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:03 p.m. CST

    rumor I heard...

    by zonefighter

    I heard a rumor coming from WB and I think this picture tells it all: http://www.efanguide.com/~duchovny/ART/art29.JPG

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Why not a movie on The Authority instead...

    by ScourgedDude

    I say we forget about a JLA movie or a World's Finest movie. Why not go for something that will translate FUCKING AWESOME to the screen... yes, a movie on The Authority. No doubt Warren Ellis could do the script... perhaps Bryan Hitch on the storyboards... now wouldn't that woould be a movie worth full admission price... you could even have Peterson or Shyamalan at the healm... that way more intersts me than a bloated WF movie that is cautious and has more ham than a blimp full of swine. Oh yea... I can drool all I want. B

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Why even post this?

    by PoxyVonSinister

    John Travolta overheard on a cell phone at a pizza parlor? Is that all it takes to get a "story" posted on here these days? Between this and that Year One "script review," apparently anything that at least correctly mentions the name of anyone currently living or breathing is a valid rumor.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:52 p.m. CST

    really stupid rumour this one: but I REALLY hope that YEAR ONE i

    by Tall_Boy

    that woulda been coolness. . .

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Oy vey I am going to kill myself....

    by DarthKurt

    I figured that Daniel Day Lewis was still up for Supes. I hope they get ILM to do the special effects to get rid of Johns' gut.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Wake up Hollywood!

    by swefanh

    Anyone see those OnStar comercials with Batman? Yes? No? Well, those commercials are better than any of the Batman films. Whoever that cat is playing Batman is better than Keaton, Kilmer and Clooney George. Keaton was pretty damn good, though. As far as Superman, it should be a lesser known actor of a decent build and younger, but not too young. It is SuperMAN after all. Christopher Reeve was the best. He was the first actor to play Superman and Clark Kent as different personalities. George Reeves and Dean Cain played Clark Kent as cool as Superman. Duh! Two people with the same personality but nobody figures out they're the same person? Oh, yeah, the glasses. The greatest disguise ever. Look, kids, Hollywood fucks up potentially cool ideas because they're creatively challenged. We've yet to see a top-notch comic book film. It might be a while. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put on my reading glasses and rob a bank. They'll never know it's me...

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 3:44 p.m. CST

    I doubt it

    by ItsOver

    Then again, never underestimate Hollywood's stupidity. World's Finest is just going to be a chance for them to screw up two heroes at once. Freddie Printz Jr IS Batman Charles Nelson Reilly IS Superman and Harry Jay Knowles in a cameo performance as Darkseid

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Oh, #@$% me...

    by ewem

    Travolta is so wrong for this role! First, he needs to lose weight. Second, Cage isn't right for the role either. They are both awesome actors, but completely wrong to play Superman. I think this is just yet nore fanboy rumor BS.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Gotham vs. Metropolis: Aren't they both New York?

    by Kiyone

    I don't care too much about discussing who will be playing Superman or Batman (not that I don't care at all; I just don't feel like discussing that right now). The big problem with doing a Batman and Superman movie has to do with their cities: both are really New York! Metropolis is an optimistic vision of New York, whilst Gotham City is a pessimistic vision of New York. They don't officially call the city "New York" in either case, but there is more than enough evidence in both film series that each city is really New York (Statue of Liberty in Batman Forever -albeit with "GOTHAM" written on the crown-; giant 5th Avenue set in Superman II). Now, having two different versions of New York City isn't too much of a problem for the regular Superman or Batman films, which I always assumed took place in different continuities (okay, Clooney Batman mentioned Metropolis in passing, but that was just a gag), but if Superman and Batman are together in the same movie, some questions about the cities will invariably come up? Which one's New York? They can't both be New York, unless they're different bouroughs, but even then, I always assumed most of what you saw on screen was Manhattan. A cool explanation would be if Batman and Superman really lived together in the same city, New York, and that "Metropolis" is New York City seen through Superman's eyes, while "Gotham City" reflects Bruce Wayne's negative, gloomy point of view, so the cities really exist only in the character's psyches. But they'll probably just be geographically vague about the precise location of either city, perhaps making the distance between Metropolis and Gotham City approximately the same distance as that between New York City and Chicago, without saying for sure which one is "really" New York City. Steve Brandon Kiyone_Mabi@galaxypolice.com

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Re: Gotham vs. Metropolis

    by Kiyone

    By the way, I'm only talking about where the cities are meant to be set, not where the movies were actually shot. All of the modern Batman films were shot at Pinewood Studios in England, and I think Superman II through IV were shot mostly in Canada (I know for certain that III was shot in Calgary; I think the Metropolis scenes in II were Toronto, except for the 5th Avenue set, which was also shot at Pinewood. This is stuff I remember from the various "Making of" books for the films which I got through Scholastic, but I don't feel like going through 26 years worth of my stuff to find them.)

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 4:17 p.m. CST

    I WANT THE ANIMATED SUPERMAN/BATMAN MOVIE ON DVD!!!

    by SethShandor

    I know no live action movie will ever by as cool as that was... but mayb a live action one will get the animated one put oiut on DVD... hopefully.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Brett Ratner must be allowed to direct this to hell with Wolfgan

    by Regis Travolta

    Sorry Wolfie but we're going to have to replace you with the little Rat fink he's hotter than you are right now and even though you're a much better director Travolta is dying to work with Brett and since he's a bigger star then Clooney you'll just have to sit this one out, who knows some day after Aronofsky does his interpretation of Batman then maybe we'll let you do your comic book movie. But to make it up to you Wolfie we're going to let you do a sequel to the Perfect Storm, we want it to star Harrison Ford as a Fugitive President who's on the run from evil Republicans trying to impeach him so get this: He the President hijacks Air Force One! And it crash lands in the middle of a torrential storm out at sea! So now the Commander in Chief is stuck floating on Air Force One in the middle of a hurricane and we've got the killer genetic sharks from Deep Blue Sea circling the plane! Oh it's gonna be great Wolfie just great! How soon can you be ready to roll here?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I think I speak for many comic book geeks...

    by Johnny Dagger

    When I say that the day he is officially cast as Superman, I will be committing suicide. I don't want to live in a world so cruel that insane religious wackos with a gut the size of Kansas are allowed to play the Man of Steel.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Props to whoever suggested Colin Farrell as Superman.

    by JonQuixote

    He'd be a good choice; he has the look, and is the sort of budding star that the studio could pass off as Supes, but not so recognized that it would be difficult for the audience to accept him as Supes.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:08 p.m. CST

    I see a whole new marketing line...

    by Huneybee

    In addition to action figurines (would YOU want to buy a replica of Travolta in Spandex?), they will have a line of candies and snacks...Man of Steel Jelly Donuts. Supe's Super Good Icecream Sandwiches. Chocolate Covered Strawberry Superman Bites. Clark Kent Bars. Superlicious Licorice. Man of Steel Jawbreakers. Gummy Heroes. Ad campaign suggestions anyone?____A Revolted At A Spandexed Travolta Bee

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:15 p.m. CST

    SCOURGED DUDE Is Right On The Money

    by The Founder

    Warners just dump Bats and Supes for now, the taste of the bad previous films haven't been totally washed from our mouths yet. The AUTHORITY would be cool to turn into a franchise, and it doesn't have a ton of baggage weighing it down either, and as long as Warren or Miller scrips it with some input fron Dini and Timm it should be as perfect as a comic to film movie we are ever likly to get. As for this rumor, well this is all it is a RUOMOR. I liked Clooney as Bats, but the script was terriable, and although I think Travolta would have been good 10 years ago, and he's to old to be launching a potential franchise of this kind. I think an unknown may be the way to go, but if they want a high profile star then I would pick Brad Pitt. Pitt's the right age, and the right height and build, but I guess he'd have to dye his hair, but he would work better than any other big name star currently out there. I would love to see what Denzil Washington would bring to the role of Superman, but people are to closed minded as of now.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Collin Farrell as Superman?

    by The Founder

    As someone has already posted he would work, and he's not that big of a star where people will see him playing Superman instead of just seeing Superman. I'm not sure how old he is, but he looks to be late twenties to no more then 31, 32 and this is the right age to launch a pontential franchise. If Spiderman booms next year you can bet that Warners will be putting Supes on the fast track mark my words.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Hey, Kiyone. . .

    by Hardyboy

    Siegel and Schuster said that Metropolis in their original vision was supposed to be Cleveland. Maybe this World's Finest film should be set there, and we can get Drew Carrey to play the Man of Steel?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Re: Hey, Kiyone...

    by Kiyone

    I also remember one of those Canada Post sponsored propaganda "Heritage Minutes" wherein supposedly whichever creator was born or spent time in Canada said that Toronto was one of the inspirations for Metropolis. I'm a bit skeptical about that one... I mean, did Toronto have skyscrapers back in the late 30's? Also back then, wasn't Toronto only a fraction of the size of Montreal? (I thought the Sun Life Building in Montreal was the tallest building in the entire British Commonwealth in those days, and that building's only IIRC 28 storeys.) I'd have a bit of an easier time thinking of Cleveland as Metropolis ('cause if it was Toronto, Superman would only be fighting for Truth and Justice, not the American Way), though I still think of it mainly as New York. Steve Brandon Kiyone_Mabi@galaxypolice.com

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 5:57 p.m. CST

    Kiyone...

    by user id indeed!

    ... I'm pretty sure that they're just fictional exaggerations of New York. That's how I've seen 'em, anyway. Hey, remember when Mihoshi accidentally jettisonned you into space? Ha ha! Classic! Did you ever try to kill her? I hope not, because you're NOTHING without her!!! You hear me?!? NOTHING!!! You're a two-bit hussy in an orange headband!!! NOBODY UNDERSTANDS HER!!! YOU HEAR ME!?!! I say Reeves-Rock as Superman, the guy from OnStar as Batman, Chris Rock as L-Ron, Marlon Brando as A Joker Who Really Let Himself Go, Kevin Smith as Campy Screenwriter Lad, Goldie Hawn circa "Butterflies are Free" for Mihoshi, and a TEN DOLLAR WHORE FOR THAT INGRATE KIYONE!!! This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! USER ID INDEED LIIIIIVES!!!

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:02 p.m. CST

    WORLD'S FINEST: Superman, Batman & OnStar

    by Kiyone

    Yeah, that would be pretty funny if they somehow worked the "OnStar button" into the plot. OnStar can be revealed to be an all-knowing psychic superhero on the payroll of the General Motors corporation. But seriously, does anyone know for certain know who plays Batman in the OnStar commercials? I checked various sources: some say it's stock footage of Clooney with new lines dubbed in (unlikely, since the Batmobile seen in the commercials is the Furst-designed one from the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton films), others say it's stuntman Alex Daniels, and still others say its some guy named Bruce Thomas. It doesn't say on the OnStar site, nor does a search for "OnStar" get any results at IMDB.com . Steve Brandon Kiyone_Mabi@galaxypolice.com

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Wake up, Hollywood! You don't NEED stars in this film!

    by SnapT

    Superman and Batman themselves are much bigger stars than Clooney and Travolta will ever be! They're bigger icons than Tom Hanks, even! If you cast the unknowns that are best for the parts instead, you'll have $30 million+ extra to use on a kick-ass script and ground-breaking special effects. Iconic characters, a kick-ass script, and amazing effects is what will open this picture, NOT George "One Fine Day" Clooney and John "Stayin' Alive" Travolta. They're fine actors, but any stars are bad for this movie. Unknowns are the way to go.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I know, I know....

    by JimmyConway

    I know this has been said, but let me just repeat: Travolta-world's finest mistake; Clooney-good Batman, crappy movie (and fuck off to whoever said they should get Kilmer back he was god-awful). and hate to burst some peoples bubbles but there is no way they are going to cast a total unknown or even someone like Colin Farrel or Ben Affleck(which btw would suck) cuz they're too young to play opposite Clooney. this is a total bullshit rumor, anyway

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:34 p.m. CST

    So Catwoman will be ........

    by AttackingClone

    Does this mean the old lady from Titanic will be catwoman? Reeeoowww Thats pretty fucked up right here. I'd rather em go with dean cain. just get a fuckin dude who is an unknown but looks similar to supes u studio jerkwads

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:46 p.m. CST

    If this is true...

    by Smeg For Brains

    ...Then it is just sad that WB enjoys toying with it's fans by promising good films, and then cancelling them in favor of turning Superman and Batman into comedy series. Travolta as Superman? Few people would take that seriously, and the film would be a joke. Dump Clooney too.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:47 p.m. CST

    You guys actually believe this crap?

    by BigTuna

    come on, this isn't the first time someone has claimed to overhear a cell phone conversation then written the " scoop" to Harry. And once he said " You can believe me or not" , you know it's 100% grade A bullshit! As if Travolta would shout out, " Wolfgang Peterson!"

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I can't believe

    by inthetrenches

    I just wasted my time reading the hogwash.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 7:27 p.m. CST

    this is b.s.

    by bright

    Nobody - not even hollywood suits - is stupid enough to make Revolta Travolta Superman. Nobody.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:03 p.m. CST

    why not Brendan Fraser as Supes?

    by Nada Lives

    While I'm not a huge fan of Brendan Fraser, I think he has the appeal to play both the dorky Clark Kent and the ultimate Boy Scout Superman. Here are my fanboy picks for World's Finest: Fraser as Supes, Kurt Russell as the kickass Dark Knight Batman (Clooney is a decent second choice if they leave the nipples in Joel Schumacher's closet), Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor, and Val Kilmer (of all people) as the reborn Joker. As for the Travolta rumor - the only reason this even got posted is because we'd all buy Travolta stuffing his face at a pizza joint.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Chris Reeves worked as Superman

    by Chiisusan

    Reeves was a relative unknown when he was given the role of Superman, he looked the part (especially after having trained for the part). His off-screen personality didn't pollute the on-screen character. This is the problem with big name actors doing these roles. Superman and Batman have personality and character all their own. You can not believe that John Travolta IS Superman, or that George Clooney IS Batman, (They are BOTH too old to play those parts, as Batman and Superman should be in their early to mid 30's). I think that they need to look to strong actors with little film experience, stage actors.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Funny. Scary, but funny.

    by superninja

    If I thought for a moment that it might be true, I would say it's one of the signs of the Apocalypse. The last days, my friends. I don't think this project should happen AT ALL, no matter what names are attached.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Travolta=baggage

    by superninja

    So let's supposed he does buff up and fit into the costume. This guy overacts. Not to mention the size of his EGO, affirmed by Battlefield Earth and it's (hahah) supposed sequel. I would not believe for two seconds that Travolta is our humble Man 'O Steel. Every time the guy is on screen these days, he looks and acts pompus. Batman & Robin is horrible, but at least Clooney has proven that he can underplay characters. Every actor that you've enjoyed in the role of a superhero has UNDERPLAYED the role, which is why it works.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Supes vs. Bats

    by season

    I know exactly who should play Superman in this. Bruce Willis. Take a look at Alex Ross' Superman from Kingdom Come and tell me you don't see Lt. McClane under the spandex. Let him bulk up a little, give him a crew cut with an "s" curl, and he's perfect. Then cast Rachel Griffiths from "Six Feet Under" as Lois, Kevin Spacey as Luthor, and Gary Coleman as Bat-Mite and we've got a perfect movie.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Holy L Ron Hubbard, Superman!

    by odeus

    I even have the tagline July, 2003 you will believe that a gut the size of a bus can fly! Actually I'd like to see a crossover with BE in which Travolta as Superman takes on his BE charachter. They're both WB franchises after all. Joel Shumacher can direct and Akiva Goldman can do the script and Warner Brothers can go bankrupt. And if they can just bring in Kevin Costner and George Lucas somehow, they can have the perfect movie on their hands.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Travolta Nay, But Who?

    by BaronX

    2 words for Batman= Bruce Campbell.As for Superman Brendan Fraiser would be good. Lex should be Kevin Spacey and Joker should be American Psycho boy (can't remember name). But as for CGI 100% if your going to do it do "Kingdom Come" Good way to bring back Batman: Year One, take the crack pipes away from the people in charge. Go for a young relative unknown as Bruce/Bats and use the damn comic as your story. For a second movie use Long Holloween. For a JLA movie go with above casting and add Rock/Manhunter, Thomas Gibson/G.L. Jesica Alba/Wonder Woman, Matt Damon/Flash. But really for any of these use comic people in the creation not hollywood writers. They are mostly bad at comic stories on screen. Well thats my two cents. Ultima Ratio Regium

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:11 p.m. CST

    User ID indeed...

    by Kiyone

    No "User ID indeed", Kiyone was never jettisoned into space, not even in the OVA continuity! People always forget that there was a disclaimer on the back of the Mihoshi Special (on the back of the LD sleeve at least): "Please note that this is only a special episode. The characters, groups and incidents depicted in Mihoshi's story are not related to the original series in any way. If you have questions, objections or exceptions about it, please hesitate to ask. Thank you!" What you all saw in the Mihoshi special happened only in Mihoshi's imagination (perhaps loosely based on an actual incident, but mixed up with memories of the other girls in Tenchi Muyo and various anime she'd watched), otherwise Kiyone wouldn't be around in the movie "Daughter of Darkness", which takes place in the OVA continuity some time after OVA ep. 13. By the way, I though the chronologically challenged Talkbacks were over. Why does User ID indeeds post show up first?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Could almost, but not quite, work if...

    by MisterE

    ...the film was The Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Frank Miller could drop the Year 1 idea for now and adapt the Dark Knight to the big screen. Clooney could work as a credible Bruce Wayne / Batman, if the writing/directing chores were in hands more capable than those that brought us Batman & Robin. I have problems with Travolta as Supes, but it could possibly work if he gets in the proper shape. It is a much better casting than having Nick Cage play Supes. I'm not a big fan of Lois and Clark, but Dean Cain wouldn't be a bad choice if the movie was set in current time and not in the Dark Knigh near-future. Off topic, but I think the rumour that Nick Cage may play Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider is interesting. I'm not a big Nick Cage fan, but I am a BIG fan of the original, pre-magic motorcycle gas cap, Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider. Nick could probably pull this off pretty well, though he is a little old for the part.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Maybe Travolta is going to play Bizarro?

    by superninja

    That's probably what the confusion is all about. Because Travolta can play Bizarro. I'm okay with that.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Main page won't load in Netscape

    by Fred

    Get a javascript error message.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Let's cast David Schwimmer as Superman and Matt LeBlanc as Batma

    by Regis Travolta

    With Matthew Perry as Jimmy Olsen, John Goodman as Perry White, Drew Carey as Commissioner Gordon, Lisa Kudrow as Batgirl, Jennifer Aniston as Lois Lane and Courtney Cox Arquette as Catwoman! You will not find friendlier casting anywhere.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10 p.m. CST

    Travolta-Revolta=In Tights= COMEDY

    by BrianSLA

    Yeah John Travolta as Superman!!! Hahahaha... I gotta see him in those tights... the movie will be a comedy. A big fat guy in tights is funny stuff. He couldn't be Superman when he was young... those tights need a buff guy or a skinny guy.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:04 p.m. CST

    I like Travolta, but the man is not right for Supes.

    by axelfoley

    Let me explain. John Travolta CAN act. He's proven it. But he's 47 years old. Had it been the same dude I saw with Arye Gross in "The Experts" then MAYBE. But there are other actors who can play Supes. Right? Come to think of it, John kind of has the good guy look. And with the right chops he can pull it off, but I still dunno. They could find somebody like an unknown. If they want to keep Clooney as Batman, ok fine. But it'll remind me too much of the dreck that was Batman and Robin. For continuity purposes and of course because Clooney's on a contract (musn't we forget that) it couldn't make more sense than to keep him in the cowl. But for Superman, can't they find someone who's played the Man of Steel before? Is Dean Cain really THAT bad? Lois and Clark wasn't anything spectacular but it didn't suck too much either. Is Gerard Christopher of the old Superboy show still working? I'm serious here. No, really I am.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:08 p.m. CST

    oh, and something else....

    by axelfoley

    am I the only one who actually LIKES the idea of Superman vs. Lobo? I'd probably would rather see that than World's Finest. That whole concept, and I gotta say it.....it sounds cheesy. Doesn't anyone else agree with that? I mean, yeah have a movie with Batman and Superman, ok, but World's Finest? That is kind of lame, granted it was a reknown comic does it REALLY have to be a film title?

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 10:25 p.m. CST

    I say go for Helos' idea! The all-CGI thing!!

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    That's TIGHT! ESPECIALLY with Alex Ross modelling the characters! Let Clooney voice Batman--he was great as Bats, it's everything else that sucked--and just do the next BATMAN film that way. Make sure that the script is dark, gritty and above all WELL-WRITTEN and for once, have the film center on Batman, and NOT his opponent. BATMAN: YEAR ONE as it was depicted in the comic book (not the Aronofsky version) should be the basis of the story. While that's being worked on, WB could also make the next SUPERMAN film using FINAL-FANTASYesque CGI as well. In this case the script must be heroic, romantic, optimistic and--I stress this because Hollywood seems to have forgotten it--WELL WRITTEN. ACTION #775 should be the basis for THIS story. Do those two well and Warner Brothers will have proven themselves ready for the BIG project: WONDER WOMAN. All-CGI with the main character voiced by Lucy Lawless and designed by Alex Ross, the script (WELL WRITTEN, GODDAMMIT) based on the George Perez version of the series. Give it to me, WB. Give it to me NOW an' I be cummin' in mah pantz. ^_^

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Superman & Batman should be the stars, not any Hollywood bigshot

    by Jonny Quest

    We're talking about characters that are 2 of the most recognized characters in the WORLD. Superman & Batman together in one movie is a premise that, if done right, sells itself. You DON'T NEED the added expense and egos that established stars would bring. When Richard Donner was casting the first Superman movie, he realized that no one would buy Robert Reford or Pual Newman as Superman. All the audience would see is Robert Redford flying. They wouldn't be seeing SUPERMAN. Travola is overweight and well into his forties. Clooney could still pull off a good Batman, but he has a lot of bad karma to overcome from Schmacher's debacle. I say find unknowns who are the right ages (24-35) that you can MAKE into the characters, a la Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter or Hugh Jackman, rather than changing the heroes to conform to the stars' personas.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 12:24 a.m. CST

    What really happened is...

    by MagnoliaFan

    Just because he was asked to be in the movie, doesn't mean he was asked to play Superman. More likely he was asked to be the bad guy of the piece. It's much more realistic that Guy Pierce will be asked to beef up and play the Superman role. Just think, you've seen him as Clark Kent in LA Confidential, now just beef him up and put him in the suit and let him kick some ass!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Final Draft or Movie Magic Screenwriter Wanted

    by You Ate Sand?

    I'm looking to buy Movie Magic or Final Draft, if anyone has a burned copy they could send, or a ghost they could send over AIM, I'd pay gladly. Email me at: maximumd3@hotmail.com

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 1:09 a.m. CST

    my two cents

    by Grail42

    My opinion is this: there is too much baggage hanging to both Batman AND Superman to launch straight into a team-up. Whoever it was that said they need a restart was right. It'd give them a chance to go back and fix some mistakes (okay, it's an understatement, I admit...but I'm thinking more in line with not killing the Joker in the first movie) and start over fresh. As for who should play? I say get Christian Bale (they guy from American Psycho and Newsies) to play Burce Wayne/Batman. He's got the build, the age for an "early career" Batman, and can definately play someone who's got some issues. For Superman, I say Chris Klien (from American Pie and Election). He's the perfect "all-american boy", he's got the build, and from what I hear, even though Rollerball is gonna suck mightily, he apparantly does action well. And hey, because Harry apparantly didn't see the email I sent him last week, I thought I'd spill the beans myself, I heard an interview with Sam Kinison's brother Bill last week on the radio (I'm in the home city for the Bob and Tom radio show, and they were good friends of Sam) where he said that apparantly Jack Black is gonna play Sam in a biopic...just thought I'd share

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 1:28 a.m. CST

    This makes no sense... You need only one star, not two.

    by virkku

    Travolta gets 20 million a picture. Clooney gets at least 10 million after the success of Perfect Storm. So they spend more than 30 million for the two stars alone? It doesn't really help to have two big stars in a Batman movie. First of all, the film itself is a star, so they could make it succesful with no stars at all. Secondly, Clooney is a big enough to get people on the seats. Clooney is a good actor and he is very liked, but he simply hasn't had big hits with the exception of Perfect Storm. Did the FIVE stars in Batman & Robin help to make the film more succesful? No, it had the worst B.O of the series. One star is enough. And finally, there is no way that Wolfgang Petersen would be attached to this kind of project. All of his movies have more or less dignity to them, he is an excellent craftsman who never fails in the directorial department, even if the scripts sometimes fail him. This setup for the next Batman project has BAD CHEESE written all over it, and Petersen doesn't make cheese. Well, unless it's intended mainly for children, and even then it's cheesy in the positive sense. THIS NEWS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 2:44 a.m. CST

    Here's one I thought I'd throw at you people....Patrick Warburto

    by Monkey_King

    Nice huh? Screw this Travolta casting rumor bullshit. At least these guys could play the roles with aplomb and rake in the big bucks for Warner Bros.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Seinfeld should play Superman!

    by Kachte

    hehehehehehehehehehehe

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 4:02 a.m. CST

    Attack of the clooneys

    by Mac Styran

    Batman Year One wouldn't have worked anyway! We damn well know the origins of the Dark Knight, for god's sake! Other comic books would work much better: Knightfall, Return Of The Dark Knight, even The Killing Joke. I tell you what: let the animated series guys do the next live action one and it will be heaven (or hell) on earth! Believe me. Batman is dark and creepy. Even violent sometimes. No candy holy something shit. Robin is DEAD!! (Hope so) Wolfgang Peterson as director ... strange thing, could work though. John Revolting Travolta? I don't think so. Bruce Campbell as Superman. That would be cool. Btw. I don't think a Batman/Superman film is any good. Too different universes. Batman was always kind of ... real. As for Superman... I am desperately waiting for HULK, X-MEN 2 and Spidey. And about George Clooney as Batman... I can't remember him in Batman&Robin. He was just not there. Give him a chance to proove. I'm sure (with a good script) he can be Batman just as good as Keaton. ... Oh, wait. Nobody could beat Keaton.... Alright, let's say Clooney could be the next best thing to Keaton. That's it for now. If you have the same opinion or a different one... e-mail me. My 2001 cents.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 4:40 a.m. CST

    Worlds saddest

    by DrX

    Why dont WB just do a big Marvel/DC crossover with all their films this year. So in one film you see Batman running past in the background etc. Then punters (or mugs) would have to see EVERY film released that year!!!!! Im a genius pay me NOW!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Travolting

    by crosseyed nitwit

    Please, Big Jonny? If tobey maguire can be spiderman, how about Edward Norton as super man, he can be the man of steel (American history X) and the acting to carry a movie.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Alec Baldwin or Bruce Cambell Should Play Batman

    by Filmjester

    and get a decent script and story and director to go along with it.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:15 a.m. CST

    And on Krypton it

    by Rhett Butler

    So, Clooney gets a second shot at the poisoned chalice? Only in La La land. However, if they can make a Superman suit that thins Travolta, I want to buy one now! Is it a bird, is it a plane, is it a Scientologist stuck in the rain?

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Clooney should be playing Supes, not the Bat

    by ARCTURUS

    These Hollywood types have got it all backward, but I don't have to tell you savvy posters that. Clooney is the ultimate goody-two-shoes Boy Scout that Superman is. Anyway, if you all want to see a REAL comic book film, go see Ghost World, the best film of the year by far (save for ANR) and maybe the best film of a comic book ever. Let's see "World's Finest" top that.

  • um...that title was a joke, wasn't it...?

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Travolta?

    by JuanRamirez

    Yeah, Travolta would be marginally better than Cage, but he's about 15 years too old for starters. Especially when there are so many other really great actors who could pull this off. I wonder what Ed Norton, or Ben Afflek (sp?) is working on now. Either would make a terrific "man of steel."

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:53 a.m. CST

    This is why I fucking HATE Hollywood! And the moviegoing public

    by kdraines

    It's almost become a joke game between Hollywood and the public now. How much can we feed them shit before they actually start to realize it's shit? Travolta as Superman? How the fuck is that any better than Cage? Batman: Year One dead? Fucking Hollywood wouldn't know a good franchise if it sucked its cock! And the moviegoing public needs to take its share of the blame, too. For sucking Hollywood's cock by going to see shit like Pearl Harbor, Planet of the Apes, etc. The age of good Hollywood movies is dead. When the best we can hope for is X-Men (a decent movie but a far cry from the best blockbusters we have seen) then you know Hollywood is putting together movies in a conference inside the men's room, using the contents of the toilet for inspiration.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Maybe Batman and Superman will Swap Faces

    by GornPirate

    Travolta's movies suck period. The only person who could possibly suck more is Clooney. Jesus why do people go watch these piece of shit films? if they would quit paying out money to see this crap we might finally get some good films. i am not some artsy fartsy film lover. I just want to be entertained. But Travolta's movies insult my intelligence. I think Him, Cage, and Arnold should all be shot. I would add Kevin Kostner to the list for making so many crap films but no one goes to see his. The fact that any of these morons are still being asked to make films shows how pathetic Hollywood has become and how easy the public is.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Actually I believe it's Spruce Creek, NOT Daytona Beach

    by Saxster

    Hey, I was raised around Daytona Beach, so I'm pretty sure that unless my memory has deserted me, Travolta lives in the town of Spruce Creek, which is more than a few miles south of the heart of Daytona Beach. It's an area infamous for private airports. MDN might have been telling the truth, but I'm a little skeptical. Give me the name of that Mom and Pop Pizza Place, MDN, and I'll go ask Travolta myself. :) Nah, leave Vinny alone! Saxster

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:06 a.m. CST

    John Travolta IS Superman....Marlon Brando IS Batman..

    by drwatson

    Maybe they could get those two fat guys on mopeds to be the villains.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Need an unknown

    by tarontine

    The studios are too hungry for a name. They should wake up and remember how great good 'ol Chris Reeve was. I say they find another relative unknown. There is one guy who was a soap opera actor who made a guest appearance on Will and Grace recently as the "hunky" nephew of Karen for one episode. Something struck me that this guy would be perfect for the part. And I am sure there are many other actors out there that could nail it as well. The guy who made the joke about the OnStar Batman is totally right whether he meant it or not. That guy looks and pulls off a real cool Batman. Who gives a crap if it's a 30 second spot. Chances are he's a great working stiff actor who is just waiting for a shot.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Why get Travolta for Superman? He is NOT a draw anymore. How a

    by timmer33

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Nic Cage!!!!

    by batman55555

    www.geocities.com/nickorland_1/home.html

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Fraser or... or...

    by 6 of 24

    Well, let

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Colin Farrell

    by TigerLand

    He would be great for Superman, the only problem is he's too short for the role (5'8" or 5'10")...but if Burton did it...he would work. The other alternative for a darker Batman is...Clive Owen (BMW films)..this guy would be great...heck he could pull off a Superman. Brad Pitt...he would be an awesome Flash? Blonde, blue eyes, lol Val Kilmer, now I could see him as a sick and demented Joker...he's also got that wide grin. Clooney, I think is a good Batman, just gotta get rid of the smirk.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Bats & Supes...

    by Elliot_Kane

    Even with a good cast it is quite hard to see how a Batman & Superman film could work. They operate in very different ways and in totally different leagues. A Supes and Wonder Woman team up would make more sense, and allow for some great friction between Lois and Diana. *** According to the latest edition of Empire, a Luke Cage: Power Man movie starring Ving Rhames is due out in 2003. Thought you'd like to know. *** Will one of the people who likes Clooney as Batman please tell me why? Bats is supposed to be a grim and gritty character not a social worker in tights. Clooney made a good Bruce Wayne I admit, but as Batman he was totally useless. Not once did he look remotely menacing, angry, or anything other than understanding. That ain't Batman.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:21 a.m. CST

    This could be fine if the plot went like this:

    by Planet Zac

    Superman starts smoking Kryptonite like crack, while Lex Luthor takes over the city. Batman has to come in and save the day by getting his out of shape friend back into fighting condition.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Hugh Jackman is already in a Superhero Franchise!

    by Chiisusan

    The X-Men, and this was his breakout role. Casting him in another superhero role would be ridiculous. I already think of him as Wolverine. I Do like the idea of Clive Owen as Batman, but he is much better for James Bond, that I also would think that this would be over exposure in a major movie franchise. The key with casting movies like these is that the characters are already know by everyone. As good as an actor Travolta may be, you will never believe that he is Superman. I could maybe see him as Luthor, but not Supes. As much as I love Warburton, He is the TICK!I would giggle to much when he talks.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Elliot Kane, you are soooo right about Clooney!

    by Chiisusan

    He just seemed too.... happy to be Batman.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Another fat joke:

    by memyself

    Well, at least the DVD would have to be in widescreen format! You know, because Travolta is so fat... he wouldn't fit on the screen... unless it was in widescreen...

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:14 a.m. CST

    SOMEONE MAKE UP THEIR F**KING MIND!!!

    by Scoobydo-do

    Summer '97. Batman and Robin bombed but people were still expecting the franchise (Batman and Robin still grossed 200 mill worldwide - not bad for a turkey!) to continue. "It's gonna be darker, more like the comic books" Joel Schumacher reassured fans. The amount of column itches devoted to the next Batman movie for the last 4 years (Leonardo Dicarprio as Robin; Jeff Goldblum as The Scarecrow; Madonna as Harley-Quinn and Kurt Russell, SORRY...Brad Pitt...GOT IT WRONG...John Travolta...THIS IS THE REAL DEAL...Josh Harnett...NOPE...BEN AFFLEC...NO, HONEST GEORGE CLOONEY as BATS) indicates that someone up there still wants a Batman movie in one form or another. Darren Aronofsky seemed to have taken just too god damned long to put YEAR ONE together and Frank Miller (Great comic book writer/Artist - lousy screen-scribe 'Robocop 2 anyone?'). But Maybe,just maybe the combined talents of WOLFGANG PETERSON and KEVIN WALKER can deliver the goods. George Clooney SHOULD be Batman - no arguement. As for John Travolta AS Supey...if he lost the flab, he'd be perfect. And since both actors are over 40, the script should play to this...mature and jaded superheros like in the graphic Novel KINGDOM COME. I just pray to God that this isn't another red herring. Warner Bros have to stop fucking with the fans. WE can't take it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:41 a.m. CST

    EEEKK say it ain't so!

    by MsBigfoot

    Harry this ain't even funny! Ravolta as Supes?? He is the worse... you know in the Bubble Boy flick, I wanted to pop that bubble, hack germs on him and say its Moops dammit! But really, speaking as a girl, it will never happen because of his ego. He knows Clooney is 50 times hotter than he'll ever be, (a 10 on the tinglemeter). Think about it, he has to be da top dog(literally) in all his flicks. Plus hes too old, Bats and Supes are buds, they need to choose a hot guy that Clooney has "lets grab a brew" dude chemistry with. Hugh Jackman(ohh baby) was an excellant suggestion, or maybe Jason (Lost Boys)Patrick bulked up a little, woohooo. Now that would be a keeper! And who is gonna be the baddie in this movie? If its done right, they only need one great villan. Thats what was wrong with the last Bat flick, to many characters to keep up with. Brainiac would be cool...an evil computer mind vs. the greatest good guy minds. Make it a mystery to be solved, and lay off all the freakin FX!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Rumor? Try lame joke

    by Hud

    Harold, looks like high time to groom your hairy knolls for nitwits; you got e'm coming out of your ear.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Youre right about the on-star actor!

    by ako

    But not the way you think. I just saw another one of those comercials {The finding a gas station one} and the actor would be wonderful. But as Superman! Clooney deserves another chance as the bat, the last films faliure wasn;t his fault. The actor in the comerical would be a good supes. as for kingdom come a movie would be imposible. an animated mini series for telvision would be great. Especialy if they pre sold the rights world wide to cover the cost!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Should I even comment on this?

    by Math

    What will WB do next? Who knows, maybe they can actually pull this off but I'm not betting on it anytime soon! Guess we'll just have to wait and see what stupidity comes out of WB next! I'd die to see a World's finest movie but now I'm not so sure! Ah well, maybe I'm over reacting!? Am I?

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Enough with Big names!!!

    by Math

    Can't WB see they allready have their big names in Batman and Superman!!! By putting big star names in their role, people start seeing the actors more than the caracters! Cast unknowns and we will be much more drawn into the movie and we will beleive that Superman is in fact superman, not an actor trying to play the role of superman! The same goes for Batman!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Tim Daly and Kevin Conroy!

    by holidill

    I have to agree with all the talkbackers who say that big stars are not needed to play superheroes. People will come to see it for the spectacle only. So having said that, how about Tim Daly(in shape) whose the voice of Superman in the cartoon, and KEvin Conroy(in shape) who is the voice of Batman. Both have the vocal inflections down. But if we have to have a star, I don't mind George Clooney. I think he wasn't that bad in BAR. Just find a place for Miguel Ferrer in the film. Maybe he could be the bad guy.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST

    John Travolta Nicolas Coppola Christopher Reeve

    by Madaracs

    I don't have a problem with a new Batman/Superman movie. Especially under the guise of one of the best comic book series of all time. I don't inherently have a problem with Nicolas Cage. I don't inherently have a problem with John Travolta. However, unless they take Christopher Reeve's head and digitally transpose it with Travolta's after principle photography, I think I may implode after witnessing the big red \S/ displayed proper by Danny Zuko. Although, just because some agent thinks he can get Travolta the part doesn't mean that the casting director is going to say, "Yeah. Thats a good idea." Rather the casting director, if they have a brain, would take a chance on someone else. Maybe someone who is a little younger, a little thinner, a little more built and better fresh. He gave me Battlefield Earth. He should be punished for that.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Travolta has One Character

    by Quiddity

    Okay, well his original character was the dumb-guy... Barbarino. That character is long gone. For the past fifteen years he's been playing the same guy in every film. Vincent Vega. Vincent Vega stealing aircraft. Vincent Vega hacking computers. Vincent vega as a fat obnoxious angel. Vincent Vega as an alien invader. THE WORLD DOES NOT NEED VINCENT VEGA AS SUPERMAN, unless this is a MAD TV send-up of him playing superman. Puhleeez let this be a figment of the author's imagination.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The Only NAME ACTOR who could play Superman is BRENDAN FRASIER!!

    by Blok Narpin

    Travolta is SOOO wrong it disgusts me. Brendan Fraiser is the only Big Name actor who could pull it off. He LOOKS the part, and he has the charisma for Superman, and is comedic enough to pull off the Clark/Superman duel role.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Reeves Today as Supes?

    by SpiderWoman

    To all the posters who have suggested using CGI to put Chris Reeves' head on another man's body and have him be Superman...have any of you actually SEEN Reeves lately? Unfortunately, what was once a strong, vibrant and good looking man is not the same man he was even 5 years ago. I'm sure it has to all be a result of the paralysis, but Chris Reeves couldn't physically become even the head of Superman on another man's body. Even his voice today betrays the man he once was. It would never fly (no pun intended). Besides, do you think that Reeves would even seriously consider the offer of being Superman's face if the role was offered to him? It would be such a sham to the Superman that we all remember seeing as kids, not to forget the great insult to the man he is today. I agree with the earlier T.Backer who suggested making Superman come to life from an unknown actor. That's what Reeves was when he started out. Find yourself a devastingly handsome young man and let him create a new version of Superman. Now granted, I still disagreed with the casting of Val Kilmer and George Clooney as Bats. I think Val was the bigger disappointment of the two, but that's because I'm a Michael Keaton fan to begin with, and neither one of those actors were fit to fill Batman's cowl. But I'm getting off on a tangent here...if I had to pick one or two actors from right now today to be Superman, my only choice, based solely on appearance would be the guy who plays Angel from that Buffy spin-off. He's got kind of that rugged, tough face that would work for more of a tougher, gritty Supes.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 2:37 p.m. CST

    god this gets worse everytime.

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    i wish time warner would sell dc comics and quit developing bullshit movies starring lame ass actors who really don't fuel my fire. i'd rather see a guy like the rock or someone who looks like a superhero play superman. i have never bought travolta as any character other than vinnie barbarino. and if aol-time-warner doesn't think that travolta would stink on ice then i think that they need to re-watch battlefield earth. that crap made batman and robin look good.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 2:46 p.m. CST

    KAAAAAAAAAAAANE!!!!!!!!!!

    by JonQuixote

    I like yelling that out. Makes me feel like I'm McBain and you're a drug lord who just killed my parner. Anyways, I think it's not fair to judge Clooney by Batman and Robin; if he was a happy Bats, and he was, it was probably because if he tried to play it tormented or dark, Schumacher would have shashayed up to him, told him he was wonderful, then tweak his latex nipple and tell him to cheer up. While Clooney isn't the best choice for Bats, I don't think he's horrible. For that matter, I don't think Batman is that difficult a role to play, and that, as long as we're not talking Woody Allen or Mr. Roboto-Val Kilmer, that a good director could get any reasonably talented leading man who is somewhat suited to the role, to pull it off.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 2:55 p.m. CST

    I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE WILLIAM SHATNER PLAY SUPERMAN, or even

    by samurai-ric

    Could'nt be any worse than having travolta play him. he could use his overacting well in those roles. "I'm.....batman..." or "up...up...and away." what ya think?

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Has anyone seen that show BattleDome?

    by JUSTICE41

    Check out the guy who plays DOA.That guy is huge,at 6'5, 250lbs. Cleaned up, that guy would make a great supes for the 2000's. If anyone here remembers the WB cartoon, bat's was at least a head shorter than supes, so the 6'2" guy playing the bats in those Onstar mercials would be great. But in reality they should do what Donner's casting department did, Go look at the guy's in the soap's for there superman.Those guys are relatively unknown, but have some acting skills, and are already in great shape.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 4:26 p.m. CST

    What's with the need to make Superman slimy?

    by DomisInnerChild

    First Cage and now Travolta?!? I thought the point of Superman was clean cut all American boy, not drug snorting greasy aging hitman. Doesn't Travolta suck at being a good guy now anyway? This is just dumb. Why don't they just go all the way with it and have Vin Diesel be Superman? He's marketable, he's "edgy", the kids like him. Or better yet, how about Chris Rock with a little CG... that's GOLD.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Batman: name. Superman: no name

    by Anakin Whoopass

    Think about it. A "name" actor works for Batman because Batman/Bruce Wayne is a celebrity under a mask in his own universe. Superman, however, must be a "no-name". Clark Kent lives in relative obscurity (save for a byline in the newspaper, which people certainly don't associate with a face or a glamorous image), and when you see his face as Superman, all you're supposed to think of is the Superman image. You can't have a celebrity face as Superman. It just won't work.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Homepage trouble on Netscape? An Idea...

    by Exalay

    The address changed. Add some www's, as in http://www.aintitcool.com/, and see if you have any luck. I did.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:09 p.m. CST

    pot belly be damned!

    by CapnMcBadass

    wasn't trvolta considered for this role way back when Reeves was cast? Age has probably worked for his advantage now that hollywood has beaten all the Italian out of him. he could totally pull off the ggeky clark persona so the only problem is getting his him in the suit, but he just lost alot of weight right? if they can make Thomas Clark Duncan 7 feet tall they give Travolta's middle aged body muscle tone. The chemistry between him and clooney would totally work especially if kent and wayne got alot of screen time as an LA Confidentail-esque duo.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 9:30 p.m. CST

    This is a stupid idea . . .

    by Playhouse

    . . . and that's all there is to it. Period. End of story. Let's all move on.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Domi'sInnerChild

    by superninja

    AMEN! I swear, just because anti-heroes are popular, these idiots at WB want to abandon heroes that stand for hope and *GASP* morality. Maybe they don't want to make the audience feel guilty because they aren't as shiny as Superman. Maybe they don't like the mirror it holds up to them. No one wants to see Superman swing too far left or right, but I think it's safe to say he stands for basic human kindness...the good in mankind.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Clooney-bashing

    by superninja

    It wasn't his fault. Wouldn't YOU want to play Batman if given the chance. Schumacher said about Batman in an interview, and I quote, "So your parents died...get over it!" Who do you think is to blame?

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Why Do Some Of You Keep Mentioning Soap Stars? Do Some People

    by The Founder

    Well maybe I'm being to biased, but I guess if one of the actors had the right look, and since some soap stars have acting talent I guess they could work. I may be wrong, but a lot of the younger Soap stars were former models and their acting skills are lacking IMHO. I'm not saying all of them are bad, and some of the big names in Hollywood started off on Soaps.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Good GOD "Grail42" Don't ever Mention........

    by The Founder

    Chris Klein for Supes again, and find the nearest patch of wood and knock on it for good luck so that Chris won't even be mentioned for this part. Good Lord some one from Warners may actually read this casting idea and thinks it gold. He is a terriable actor, and as a matter of fact my sister and I was just talking about his acting ability after seeing AP2. NO CHRIS KLEIN FOR SUPERMAN WB.

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Woudln't a batman is looser fitting clothes doin more martials..

    by EvilWorm

    be a "black" power ranger?!

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Superninja...

    by Elliot_Kane

    I totally agree with your comments about Superman; what he is and what he should be. I must unfortunately disagree with your comments about Clooney though. Anyone would indeed want to play Batman given the chance, but most of us would be honest enough to admit if we couldn't do it, for whatever reason. He is far from being the ONLY one to blame for B&R (Which is still a better film than Batman Forever, after all) but he has to shoulder PART of the blame (Which he himself has admitted, by the way). He was, after all, playing the main character in a major movie franchise - and he played him poorly. Batman requires a dark edge that Clooney just does not have.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 1:26 a.m. CST

    JonQ...

    by Elliot_Kane

    Clooney is far from being the worst choice for Bats, I agree, but he is far from the best too. The worst part of playing Batman is that you are playing two roles - Bruce, who is kindly, affable and not too bright; and Batman who is ruthless, driven and has one of the world's finest minds. Clooney makes a great Bruce. He has the look, the charm, and the manner all to perfection. Unfortunately he has none of the dark edge required to play Batman. He just does not do scary.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Phantom edit of the Batman Saga favouring Clooney as Batman.

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    None of the Batman films really ever got there the way the first three Superman films did. Burton was TOO dark 'n' brooding and Schumacher was TOO lite 'n' brite. So, here's a task for budding Phantom editors. Using all four films of the Batman Saga try to make one sprawling yet coherent film (or two tight films) that favours Clooney, keeps as much Batman whup-ass action as possible, excises as much whiney O'Donnell action, and toyetic costume changes as possible. String the Batman origin flashbacks from all four films together. Cut down the villain's roles and soliloquies. Keep the fun but not the camp and pathos but not the overwrought angst. Keep Batgirl to a minimum and resolve her arc in the third quarter. Try to make the main love interest Vicki Vale from the second quarter to the end. Tone down the horrendous Poison Ivy to a cameo, keep most of Catwoman, The Penguin, Two Face, The Riddler and Mr. Freeze but keep their origins to mere glimpses and weave their arcs with that of the main villain The Joker. If there's not enough Clooney reaction shots to work with in B&R then use other films such as From Dusk Til Dawn, One Fine Day, The Peacemaker or Out Of Sight and graft them over the appropriate backgrounds (oh don't baulk it's not THAT hard). For added fun you could even take the Onstar references out of the Bruce Thomas ads and mix those Onstarless commercials in. Anyone with an iMac with DVD player and iMovie should be able to do this easily. I'd do it but I'm too lazy. When you watch all four films there are some great moments and a LOT of fat. If we cut out the fat and streamline the narrative in the end I think we'd have a Batman film we can all be proud of. Filmmakers and studios have been showing us that the film is not finished even when it's finished. I see fan editing as another step in the process. The next evolution if you will. Don't give me the disrespect to art rant I've heard it and it's tired. Fan editors have shown us that we don't have to put up with films we're less than satisfied with. Now get cracking. LittleGreyAlien.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 6:09 a.m. CST

    I don't know if it's fair to say Clooney doesn't have a dark sid

    by JonQuixote

    Doug Ross was an interesting and emotionally dark character. Clooney did a good job of balancing a heroic aspect with a broken psyche...don't get me wrong, it wasn't Batman dark, but Clooney is one of the best at playing a flawed character. *** Anyways, everybody knows that the best choice for playing Batman is, was, and always will be Kurt Russell. It used to be Alec Baldwin, but then I saw The Shadow. Here's hoping that Year One isn't dead, but if it isn't, I say it's time to let Plisskin don the cowl. "Call me...Bats".

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 7:08 a.m. CST

    travolta rumor

    by arenar

    Not to lend credit to the truthfulness of the rumor but John Travolta was actually in Florida over the past couple of weeks. I live about an hour north of Daytona and The Gainesville Sun ran the story of Travolta having eaten at the alehouse two weeks ago then again at the alehouse in ocala a few days later. They said he is in the area house hunting. So maybe he was in daytona once again spotted eating. If only he made $20 mil for every restaurant he was seen at. Maybe the conversation the guy heard was: Man on phone: Hey, John I got you reservations at another restaurant. Travolta: Super, man. Thats super. Who's? Man on phone: Wolfgang Pucks Travolta: WOOHOO Wolfgang P... Then the bathroom door shut.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Bring Back Michael Keaton

    by Eraser

    Keatons the only way to fly, he is the Bat, and he got pumped for Desperate Measures, more ageing superheroes, Travolta? Get on the Technogyms, and I'll let it be.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 8:14 a.m. CST

    I meant to say IF Year One is dead

    by JonQuixote

    If year one is dead, and they're going with a mature Bats, or a DKR, THEN Kurt Russell. But I still want a Year One with Wes Bentley!

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 10:46 a.m. CST

    NOW I agree with you JonQ...

    by Elliot_Kane

    Kurt Russell as Bats in DKR? Definitely gets my vote...

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 12:31 p.m. CST

    christian bale as batman,johnny depp as supes

    by cooler_king

    these 2 could pull it off.clooney doesnt want to do another batman.or else go with 2 unknowns and get david fincher to direct

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 3:08 p.m. CST

    I have this bridge I'm selling see...$5.00!! Cheap!!

    by UncleNasty

    COME ON! I mean really.... this guy picked up Peterson, Travolta and Clooney from an overheard pizza shop conversation? OK.. lets grasp reality now folks... the pre-production cost on this film from the actors SALARIES alone would be ASTRONOMICAL easily $75-80M right off the bat (no pun intended). Yes.. that would be cool. Yes...that would be the movie we all want to see. Please, for the sake of our collective sanities, lay off the pipe. -Nastybits

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Luthor & Joker should be played by...

    by fredman73

    ...any of the following: Kevin Spacey (YES!), Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks, Jerry Springer...wait...not him. The Joker should be: Robin Williams, Jack Nicholson, or John Travolta. Superman? Yeah, Travolta could pull it off. I'd go with Paul Gross, personally.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Fraser and Clooney

    by Blok Narpin

    Brendan Fraser as Superman and George Cloony as Batman. PERFECT. Sign them up, write a script and shoot this movie. Lets never speak of cage or Travolta again....EVER. (David Boreanaz is a good second choice for Batman. The guy plays a depressed crimefighter who only comes out at night EVERY WEEK! THAT'S BATMAN!!!

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Paul Gross.....and the Cohns

    by moira_lc

    Paul Gross as Superman? Perfect, as long as he can look the way he did in the first year of Due South. WAtch any episode; that's Superman....if only the writing for a movie could be as character perfect as it was on DS. All the George Clooney discussion has made me wonder.....what a truly wonderful movie the Cohn Brothers might make of Supes and Bats. I'd love to see that movie!_____Moira

  • Aug. 17, 2001, 8:33 a.m. CST

    World's finest all ready happened...

    by holidill

    Back in 1994, Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeve were both in the cute romantic comedy Speechless. There is one scene, where we had a vision of a World's Finest pairing. Reeve and Keaton are sitting in a house around a pool table just chatting away. It was an interesting vision, the guy who played Superman and the guy who played Batman sitting together and chatting like friends. It was a very cool scene. On another note, I like Chris O'Donell as Robin, however I think he is now old enough to play Nightwing, and I think he should.