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SCOOBY DOO: 'The Truth Will Set You Free'
Folks, Harry here... I just read an article in THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER in which they discuss how Warner Brothers is getting "proactive" in their web promotion of next year's SCOOBY DOO. Specifically they talk about the web junket down to Australia for SCOOBY DOO from a few months back.
Reading this piece, I can't help but point out that the bad buzz on Scooby Doo came from a very legitimate place. Their script blew. Beginning with the James Gunn draft and continuing through to their final shooting script... the story, characters and dialogue -- all terrible.
Now, when all those websites went down there, I wasn't jealous, I had to go to Cannes to cover LORD OF THE RINGS at nearly the same time. And having read both scripts, I knew which project to check out. However, in this article the vp of Interactive marketing at Warner Brothers said something interesting:
"I can't monitor every chat room, but if it threatens to make the leap to sites which have a feeling of legitimacy, we have to show them what we've got."Exactly. If they feel they have a great project then they really have nothing to hide. Nothing at all to hide. They can just let it all hang out, because well obviously this is a perfect ship-shape project. They showed them sets, which were quite pretty. After all, beautiful sets always make for great films. Always. Never fails that high production design doesn't go hand in hand with greatness. The article then has many comments from various websites about how nice the sets look.
However, of greatest interest is the fact that apparently footage was screened to the group of web guys. Garth at Dark Horizons allegedly commented at the San Diego ComicCon on a panel that the footage was "disappointing," yet when the reporter pressed further he couldn't comment on the footage and said, "I can't go on the record about that, I'm afraid. That was for the crowd there only -- and I overemphasized under the pressure."
OK, so... so far we know the shooting script sucked, the sets looked cool, apparently the footage was disappointing, and none of the web guys can talk about the footage 'on the record'.
Well, this seems to indicate some sort of 'silence' amongst those that went to the set. To talk about only the positive aspects of a set visit, if you did see negative things... well, you kind of have to report on both, don't you? UNLESS for some legal reason you are not allowed to. And if you are not allowed to talk about what you saw, and yet intimate to others that what you saw was 'disappointing' but don't share that with your audience... Well, it just looks bad.
However, Don Buckley ends the article absolutely correctly:
"You wouldn't buy a car without test-driving it first, and we think that in order for these people to really judge the project, they have to experience the thing. The truth will set you free."Well Don... Release on to the web the footage that you showed the exclusive group that won't talk about what they saw. After all, "The Truth Will Set You Free."
To read the entire article CLICK HERE!!!
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HEY SCOOBIE!!
wheeere aaaare yoooou?!?
OOOVER HEEEERRE
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In doing this movie. I mean she has just sunk her own career. And for what to try to save her boy friends sinking career.
Sorry but she had a better chance of raising the titanic than making FPJ into a watchable actor. Ands whats worse she may have taken herself down with him.
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Lots of friends worked on this pile on the Gold Coast, in front ans behind cameras. No one had any fun. The only hope lies with Rowan A. At least he'll deliver the pesky kids line well. Bad idea, badly done.
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Aug 10, 2001 2:09:43 AM CDT
well, if the script's bad, and the cast is well, the cast that i
by a goonie
i love scooby doo. there was a while there where i'd try to squeeze in a little scooby doo each morning before school. i mean, the CLASSIC scooby. it was great. and i thought to myself, as i did with lots of books and cartoons and such, wouldn't scooby make a cool live-action movie? and well, as much as i wish the answer was YES, sadly it's a NO. the beauty of a repetitive plot where each episode a new creature/monster/thing shows up to freak people out, only to be uncovered by those meddling kids as some dude who made an appearance earlier on in the episode, was wonderfully silly. but as an updated live-action movie, well, i just don't see it working. and a CGI scooby, i know it'd be pretty much ridiculous to have a real great dane play the part, but if you're gonna CG it, then why make a fucking live action movie?!? leave it as a cartoon. and the casting... god, Jason Lee would've been the perfect choice for Shaggy. not Matt Lillard. either way, i still hope this movie is at least silly and funny and somewhat entertaining, but i'm not holding my breath.
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anyone that goes to see it. I ask you, for who was this movie created? It is for the kids that enjoy SD today and the adults that were/are SD fans. I showed my 5 year old son the pictures of the cast from an earlier SD post and I had to EXPLAIN to him who the people in the pictures were. Oh, yes, the casting is dead on...as I tuck my boy in at night with his SD pillow and his two SD stuffed animals, I can't help but imagine his disappointment in this movie. If you think that I am wrong, I BEG you to show pictures of this movie to any young SD fans in your family. Please....and THEN oost your tb.____A Bee On A Zombie-Free Island (but it does contain the Harlem Globetrotters and Don Knotts and Jerry and all the others...)
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of an overproduced, underthought-out, money-grubbing pile of shit.
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Freddie Prinze still headlining movies? When is Hollywood going to realize this guy is a lost cause, and stop sinking money into projects hoping they'll eventually strike gold? FPJ you career is dead, unless you do some indie films, and show us some real acting chops, but that may not be enough because you have no one that gives a crap about you or the films you star in save only teen girls, and the teen bubble is getting ready to bust. Hollywood is just like MTV. All those teen pop stars albums that have come out aren't even in the top 50's on billboard, and even the so called kings of teen pop Nsync, their new album dropped like a ton of brikes in it's second week on the charts, not to mention their crappy single barly made the top 50's singles in the country, and yet I tune into MTV now and then and they still give good exposure to these acts, while ignoring a good deal of the artists who albums and singles are actually in the top 20. Go figure? Oh yeah then I see Nsync on the news saying their not concerned with the numbers, but contradict themselves by saying the album sales went down do to the drop in the economy. I swear I haven't laughed that hard in a while. MTV, Hollywood, and any other concerned parties LISTEN UP the teen reign is coming to an end, so stop trying to infuse life into it and move on to the next big thing, which you all will run into the ground in a few years.
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Is Scrappy Do in this shit?
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Yup - just like The Haunting. Is there no God?
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Bee - your son is very lucky. At least he has you to oversee his true Scooby experience. I can't help but cringe for all the kids out there that will see this movie as their first Scooby experience. Poor, poor things. "Yeah, I know about Scooby Doo - my Mom took me to see a movie when I was a kid. And it sucked."
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If only they really told the truth. Or let us talk about it. +++++++ It was inevitable that the studios would try to control the websites (or take a proactive approach to the online media). At the moment websites are unique. A new form of instant and, seemingly, unfiltered communication. +++++++++ The studios are part of massive, globally integrated companies that feed into each other. Creating demand and supplying it. For example - Rupert Murdoch owns News Corp which owns 20thCFox. The films are pushed on Fox tv channels and News Corp magazines and newspapers worldwide. George Lucas buys a big sharehlding in a major toy company producing his starwars toys. (Incidently all produced in China for next to nothing --- to the free world, from the not-so-free). +++++++ We have all heard the rumours. We all know about the press junkets (look at Pearl Harbour). Most magazines exist on bland interviews with the stars (to fill the pages) and advertising (for revenue). Access to the stars and the canapes come at a price. Maybe the other sites now know what a none disclosure agreement looks like. ++++++++ People believe that webmedia is somehow truthful because of the tone of the 'fan' writing and the chance to comment back (compared to say a newspaper).That concept of the web being true is rubbish - but it IS precious. There is, and always will be a degree of manipulation. (George Lucas and his minions under psudonyms, all talking up a film or a rival down etc!. only joking George!!). +++++++++ Generally the only way studios can control the press on the web is through the release of, or withholding of, information. As most news websites rely on who gets the new spiderman picture first etc this can be a big lever. The other way is to buy out and co opt the problem. Then marketing their website through through PR and low level advertising across their magazines etc. Meanwhile diss the bad websites (its irrelevant) "Ain't It Cool News has been a site that has gotten more publicity than the others but doesn't necessarily speak to the audience we want, which is movie lovers and moviegoers," Buckley said. "It has become almost like a trade publication." Which infers that this website is not for "movie lovers and moviegoers".+++++++++++The marketing teams will become more sophisicated. We are still on the bottom rungs but gradually they will co-opt and neuter all the major sites like the magazines and news shows. There is no way they can stamp out all heracies though. There is some unmediated space to work in but they will always stive to hold the major ground whilst shoving dissenters into the margins and backwaters. It is important to not lose the perception of being truthful, honest and uncorruptable. That will be where they get you. Irrelevant or bought. Its a shame that the fans perception will again be used against them. ++++++++++ By the way Harry what exactly did you mean when you "conceded that "there will be all sorts of positive elements to this film.""? +++++Your right about the amount of detail in a set being irrelavent. It dont make a film good. Certain people should hang their heads in shame.
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Aug 10, 2001 4:04:55 AM CDT
I guess the surprise ending with Scrappy-Doo just won't be enoug
by lance rock
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I have my son to thank for introducing ME to SD. I did not watch SD growing up and it was not until my son became interested in the TV show that I ever saw my first complete episode. We have now become a household of all things Scooby. I did not realize "I" was hooked on Scooby until he fell asleep one night and I was sooo tired (pregnant with future SD fan) but I caught myself doing my best to stay awake because...I hadn't seen that particular episode before. I do feel bad for the kids that will watch this movie and think that this is the real thing.____A Bee That Still Gets Her Son To Brush His Teeth By Calling Him A Cat Creature
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I think that Sarah Michelle Gellar is one of the few good actresses of her generation and she's just wasting her time with this career-destroying project. She was fine in Cruel Intentions and you thought she'd take advantage of the fact that she gets offered interesting parts (as I'm sure she is), like the upcoming James Toback film, but no, she has to do the Freddie Prinze Jr. girlfriend thing. By the way, Freddie sucks big time.
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"Ain't It Cool News has been a site that has gotten more publicity than the others but doesn't necessarily speak to the audience we want, which is movie lovers and moviegoers," Buckley said. "It has become almost like a trade publication."
What the FUCK is this guy talking about? Has he even BEEN to this website? Obivously not, to say something so incredibly stupid.
And you are right, something stinks. I, too, am willing to bet the other nine webmasters had to sign something saying they would not say anything negative about the film in exchange for access to the set. I *NEVER* would have done that.
Thanks, Harry, for getting this out there for the masses. This could very well be the final nail in the Scooby Doo movie's coffin, 10 months before the film is even released.
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I nearly choked with disbelief when I saw the one executive/marketing genius who said something to the effect that they were aiming the film at "film lovers and film goers", that this was not AICN's audience. Was he for real? Who does he think we are? Didn't he mean the brain-dead masses who don't care to inquire about a film's quality (or lack thereof) before dropping their $7-$10 down? People who've forgotten about a movie a week later? Are these people "true" film lovers? Hollywood's spin control and willingness to lie to the public is rivalled only by that of politicians.
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You know, I usually find this site to be pretty fair (especially in dealing with judging films way out on the horizon....) but the shit you are giving this project is just mean spirited. Sure, the script may suck....whatever.....who in their right mind thought there would be any way to make a live action scooby movie good? I just don't see the good in attacking a movie that people are still working on. The very least you could do is wait until seeing a trailer or early screening shitting on the project.
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This is where Harry Knowles comes unstuck, I'm afraid. He's always berating his talkbackers for trashing Star Wars Episode 2 without seeing it, yet here he leaps right in at making digs at Scooby Doo without seeing anything, basing his opinions entirely on hearsay. I mean, come on, the bitterness in his article is loud and clear. I don't know anything about the Scooby movie, so I won't comment. Unlike some people...
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Again Harry continues his crusade against Scooby Doo for no apparent reason. His only justification? The script sucked. Well big boy, Charlie's Angels didn't even have a finished script during shooting and you sure LOVED that movie didn't you? In all likelyhood, Harry's probably right about the movie going to suck, but must you go out of your way to bash the film at every opportunity? It's as if the thought of the movie being made is a personal affront to you... Oh yeah, I think the exec was right, AICN has a reputation as being much more a haven of film criticizers than film lovers, i.e the Talkback a$$holes that Harry bashed in the J&SBSB article. HEll, go to any Star Wars article on the sight and you can see why we have the reputation as nothing more than rabid fanboys. That doesn't neccessarily mean that it is correct, but as I've come to this site for going on 3 and a half years now it seems like we're getting closer to that everyday. But I have to admit, I have yet to find a replacement that can measure up to this place, that's why I keep coming back...
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I'm the reason the script is so bad. I accidently wiped my ass with the master copy before it got sent out for distribution...
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Claiming that AICN isn't composed of the intended audience for Scooby-Doo has to be one of the year's best attempts at straw-grabbing by Warner Bros. This is akin to that teeny parasol the Coyote holds up before the boulder lands on his head. The boulder, in this case, is the anticipated critical gang-buggery come opening weekend. After the reviews hit that day, Chandra Levy's got more of a chance of turning up than an audience for this waste of Ektachrome. Good luck, Don.
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...The reason why people are berated for trashing Star Wars Episode 2 and encouraged to trash Scooby Doo is that Harry (and also all of the legions of Star Wars fanboys who take every criticism of Star Wars as heresy) want desperately to like the next Star Wars movie. They are prepared to give it every benefit of the doubt that they possibly can and they are prepared to rationalize, defend, overlook, and pretend that they like every bad quality about the upcoming Star Wars movie. On the other hand nobody wants Scooby Doo to succeed and nobody is going to give it a chance whether it deseves one or not. I think society as a whole is collectively sick and tired of bad live action movie versions of old cartoons and old sitcoms. These movies in general do nothing but rape, trivialize, abominate, and forever taint or fondness for the original shows that they are based on. For some reason Hollywood continues to take beloved cartoons and shows from our childhood and wipe their asses with them. They have been doing this over and over again for as long as I can remember. I grew up with Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, Looney Tunes, etc....Now we have the Tom and Jerry Kids Show, a live action Scooby Doo movie, the Looney Tunes Space Jam movie, and every camaro driving piece of redneck trailer trash in the country wearing a Taz shirt. This Scooby Doo movie is just the latest unwanted and unneeded desecration of a cartoon show that people grew up with and loved.
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Here's my reply Harry, posted on DH today:
There's been a bit of talk about "Scooby-Doo" today, specifically an article in The Hollywood Reporter about the set visit several of us took and comments about it. Now an editorial over at Aint it Cool has surfaced making a few assumptions, but nevertheless asking some valid questions. As in previous editorials on the site there's an almost paranoia that there was a 'silence' agreement by everyone on the set and that we couldn't talk about certain things we saw - I've said it before and I'll say it again, there was no signed agreements of any kind with Warners, the set visit was totally open and we could talk about whatever we want. The key element in the article and the one that's gotten Harry in a tizz is over footage screened to us that hasn't been mentioned. Was there footage screened? If you call about 80 seconds of basically reaction shots footage then yes. Why didn't I include it? Simply because there was no need for it - had it been a completed scene like Sony did with "Spider-Man" at Comic Con then most certainly one could describe it but when your shown about twenty '2 second grabs' of people reacting to FX not complete, what can you say about that? Personally I didn't think much of the rough footage because quite simply it was so rough. Others there got a big kick out of it - each to his own I guess, but I doubt the footage can be released to the web as Harry asked because by now its probably been destroyed whilst the more completed versions of it are being worked on by the post production team. I still stand by every word of my report, from what I saw the production looked cool. I've yet to and have no plans to read the script (a rule I apply to all films barring special cases) and unlike some others seem to have done, I'll make up my mind on what I thought about the film after I actually sit down and see the final print in the cinema next Summer.
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Maybe Fred will finally come out.
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This thing is going to suck the ass out of a hemmorhoidal rhino
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Sure she has some really nice legs but she isn't as great as people make her out to be sort of like Julia Roberts. I feel sorry for the poor girl though nobody should be connected with a piece of shit like the one this movie will turn out to be. However she knew what she got herself into so it's her fault. And I will give $10.00 to the person that brings me the heads of Freddy Prinze Jr. and Matthew Lillard stuffed with Elephant poo. I'll make it $20.00 if you bring me Joel Schumacher's as well.
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Harry quit yer bitching until you actually see the finished film. You sound like a spoiled brat when you insist that people should show you footage of a film before it's complete. Just cause LOTR kissed your ass doesn't mean everyone has to. REMEMBER SAMMY JANKIS!!!
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Aug 10, 2001 12:11:36 PM CDT
Honestly, I would rather see a live-action version of the Battle
by axelfoley
that they used to show in the '80s. With that fucking guy that looked exactly like Shaggy but wasn't, he drove this talking dune buggy jeep. I'd rather see a biopic done on the life and times of Dave Seville and the Chipmunks than see Scooby Doo. Is Hollywood really that ignorant? Did they think Freddie Prinze Jr. had THAT much clout they can through him in as a headliner in a campy rendition of a even campier cult classic '70s cartoon. And the guy had all the Scooby Doo episodes on tape? Well good for him, but the Simpsons being one of the very few tv shows I actually watch anymore, I have taped many of my favorite episodes when I have the chance. It doesn't mean I'm going to read as a 21 year old Bart in a audition of the live action movie, now is it? I don't like Sarah Michelle Gellar because she's too into herself. Yes, she's pretty. Yes, she's in a popular teenybopper show. But she has a major attitude problem. At the MTV movie Awards (oy vey) she almost got into a battle of the bitches with Cameron Diaz over Freddie. Sorry, can't have that crap. I too am sick of MTV, remember when it was actually cool? And before any of you people write me off as an old fart, I'm 21. Maybe I'm out of the demographic to 15-17, but aren't there videos anymore? On another random note, while on the topic of MTV. Any body hear about the lead singer of Buggles not being let into the 20th Birthday Bash last week? He had to watch it in a bar with yentas. He started a musical revolution back in '81. Just because he's not Fred Durst he's so blatantly shafted? Here's hoping that the hip hop teeny bopper era of MTV drops fucking dead. -
Thanks to Garth from Dark Horizons for his response. Wow, wait till the movie is actually done to judge it? That is a CRAZY idea! Harry, you need to freaking calm DOWN about Scobby Fucking Doo. Stop putting up non-stories about a movie you have a vendetta against. Yes, the movie will probably suck. But so what? Scooby Doo is a goofy cartoon we loved as kids. It's not the bible. It'll probably suck like The Flintstones. MAYBE it'll be a surprise like George of the Jungle, which I actually found quite amusing. But it's Scooby Doo, so it won't kill me either way. And as others have said, STOP mentioning you hated the script. The makers of Rush Hour 2, which you loved, have admitted they were writing on the set... yes, this can lead to shit. But you never know. You've already told us you hate the cast, hate the script, etc. We understand. Stop repeating yourself and get on to actually posting some news. My god man, you put up this whole Hollywood Reporter/Dark Horizons story speaking as if there is a cover up going on with Scooby Doo on par with the killing of JFK. Meanwhile, a lot of you talkbackers are STILL not acknowledging that thanks to Cartoon Network, TONS of kids know and love Scooby Doo today. And that's why regardless of quality, this movie will probably make money. And for the person whose kid couldn't tell which characrer was which in the cast photo we've seen? Um... Never mind.
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I totally agree with you. One should be able to report on a film freely with no strings attached. Yet, on your item on GHOST OF MARS you stated "I've had a chance to see GHOSTS OF MARS now, but because it was at an official press screening, I'm under embargo until the day of release. " Sorry but I fail to see the difference between Ghosts and Scooby. Free press should be free speach and not controlled by businesses or, in this case, Movie Studios.
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Trevor Nunn?(thats his name right?) Pop producer genius and Buggles main man was not allowed into the mtv awards. A man responsible for producing a vast amount of the tunes that mtv built their "reputation..(snigger)" on in the early 80's?...FGTH, A.O.N..sorry, I know this is a film site but Ive just come on to the boards and seeing that comment from AxelFoley has just drove me up the fucking wall.
Damn your sorry fucking hide MTV! Damn the brainless morons who are brainwashed in to lapping up all the shit that you demographic obsessed, corrupt, souless "suckers of satan's cock (C) Bill Hicks" defacate into our cinemas and music charts week in, week out.
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He wasn't invited because "Video Killed the Radio Star", HA HA HA. Seriously though the Buggles were fucking pioneers it's like not inviting Lou Reed, David Bowie or The Police shit even Tears for Fears deserved to go to that thing. It's really fucked up, a hack like Fred Durst who even ruined the old catchy National Lampoon Vacation theme once could go anywhere he wants including the Ladies Room but Billy Idol, The Cars hell even Rick Astley can't even get close to the fucking event. These people's videos is what made them and MTV seriously deserve to die they haven't been good since the glory days of LIQUID TELEVISION. BAH Trent Reznor put it best this Hip Hop/Rock Amalgam is KILLING Music and Fred Durst is a numbskull which is why Fred got so upset with Trent because the man spoke the truth. I like both genres you know I listen to Rock and Rap but I like the genres seperately it's simply retarded that the only Rock station in New York City, K-ROCK plays songs by the Beastie Boys. That is just plain ignorant just because they're white their music is no longer Hip Hop but it's automatically Rock. Man society sucks and I want to move away from the states hell the only other state I will think of moving to is Hawaii hell I'll even go up to Canada. Death to MTV they must be stopped, Death to Reality TV, Death to POP CULTURE and Fuck my generation (I'm 19) up their stupid asses.
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And that bitch is going to need some airing out after she's done with Freddie Prinze.
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Aug 10, 2001 7:34:15 PM CDT
They Wanna Attract Film Lovers, Yet They Cast Freddie Prinze Jr.
by easy rider
I guess their versions of "film lovers" are the ones that shell out money for shit constantly and never berate Hollywood for making crap by calling everything "escapist fun". Oy....the people at Warner's are more confused than an Asian schoolgirl trapped in Woody Allen's house.
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::Falling to knees in front of the Scooby Doo Footage:: You Maniacs! You did it! You Killed Scooby Doo! Damn You!!...Damn you all to Hell!!
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It is MY kid that did not recognize Scooby and The Gang, but, don't just take MY word for it. Do as I asked people to do in my initial tb. Surely you know a young kid from somewhere...whose parents will let you near them. Show them the picture and THEN tell us what happened. My son is 5yo and watches the animated series every day. He is not mentally deficient or in any way handicapped. Another Tb'er, with whom I correspond, did not believe me and showed the pictures to his daughter (8 or 9 years old) AND, even after he told her who they were because she apparently thought he was teasing her. Even when he pointed out the clothes, she was like, "Right Dad, uh huh." I cannot believe that we have come to the point that we are attackicg young children here on aicn, so I will mark it up to ignorance on your part. I AM glad to see that you had enough sense to stop just short of verbalizing the intended insult. Until you "test" the theory, you get a frownning (sp?) face stamped on your report card!____A Protective Bee
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It's easy to attack Schumacher for what he did to Batman, but remember that he also made "Falling Down" and wrote "Carwash". He's like a Jekyl and Hyde. He's a brilliant kind hearted film doctor, and an evil film rapist at the same time. Killing him wouldn't stop horrid Batman films from coming to be though, I blame it all on horrid writing and casting. Given a Frank Miller written script for "Dark Knight Returns" and Clint Eastwood as Batman, he could make a damn fine Bats film along the lines of "Falling Down" focusing on his disgust for the city. OF course if I could see the Man with no Name play Batman under any director it would make my day (Ugh).
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Scooby Doo has always been shit! Why don't they make a Johnny Quest movie? Now THAT would kick ass.
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Aug 10, 2001 10:52:52 PM CDT
Harry Shouldn't Be Pissed Off About What They're Doing To SCOOBY
by buzz maverik
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I personally feel the man shouldn't be redeemed for making those movies. Not only that he has taken hours of my life with masterpieces such as "Flawless" and "Flatliners", yes he wrote "D.C. Cab" i'll give him that but for every "Falling Down" there's a "8mm" and "Tigerland" was overrated. I don't know in my opinion the man just has a lot more misses then hits and I really wouldn't mind if he was kicked out of Hollywood by any means. So you can take that to the bank only of course if you feel lucky, well do you punk.(UGH! 2K1: The Sequel)
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make it a parody like the brady movie:
shaggy - stoner.
daphne - slut trying to sink her claws into fred.
fred - queer guy with a purple scarf around his neck.
thelma - lesbian with a thing for daphne.
scooby - stupid dog who craves scooby snacks.
start from there and the screenplay will write itself.
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Aug 11, 2001 12:44:25 AM CDT
Proactive? Isn't that just a word people use to appear smarter t
by andy travis
Sorry I butchered that Simpsons quote, but I couldn't resist. I absolutely hate these new business-jargon-word-things. I feel pretty much the same about the word "proactive" as I feel about the term "one-hundred and ten percent".
Did you know Wal-Mart sells machetes for around 8 bucks? They lock up the shotguns, but leave the machetes out hanging on the racks??? I mean, I could have that baby out of its hard plastic package and go crazy with it if I were a psychopath.
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During the "flash back" sequence or whatever, they need a laugh track over the funny (and sometimes non-funny) lines.
eg. Velma- "Jinkies this sure is a skooky warehouse"
Fred- "It sure is" (in a stale Freddie Prinze expression)
Scooby- "Ruh roh, ra rhost"
Shaggy- "Zoiks" (insert laugh track)
(Shaggy runs off carrying scooby)
(insert laugh track)
Daphne- "Gee whiz, it was just a sheet" (inert laugh track)
Fred- "Hey where are scooby and shaggy?"
(Scooby and shaggy come out of a kitchen with food)(insert laugh track)
Shaggy- "like I always say, 3 cones gives a dude the munchies"
(insert laugh track)
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Why are you all jumping at the chance to hate this movie?? You havent seen it so by judging it so far away from release date is stupid. I would like to see you try and a make a movie. The movie will rock and you all know it you are just to ashamed to admit that you will go and see a move that is based on a cartoon show. Really you should give it a chance. What im trying to say is LAY OFF and find another hobby other than attacking things you havent even seen.
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This film could have been a good film if they turned it into a gore fest, like the old H.G.L films but with better effects, and allso if the got Edward Norton, Brad Pit and David Fincher together again it would be a HIT.....belive me, they should make these films from anohter angle....
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Scooby will be good,you people don't know nothing, but even if it blows you have to see it before you can judge it.
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Hunnybee: I've tested my theory. I am a teachers assistant, working with fifth and sixth graders. They've seen pictures of the cast (actually, the father of one of the students in my class worked on the film, so we saw some pictures earlier then most) and they knew who the characters were...
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but I have a few questions about your "control group" in this study. You say that the father of one of your students worked on the film. Every kid there was probably aware of this fact and when he brought the pictures to class, knew what they were going to see. I will clarify...find a young child who enjoys SD, and then show him or her the pictures on the internet unless the photos your student's father brought were the same the general population get to see). I don't see how being anywhere from one to five years older will make that much difference that the two I personally know about if they are not influenced prior to the demonstration. You have been scheduled for a retest. ;) ____Bee
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It's almost surreal to see two grown men with children debating over whether you can actually differentiate the cartoon versions from the.... well human versions of the Scooby Doo characters. Whew, I guess the world really is in dire straits these days.
BTW I think Oliver Stone should've been considered for directing this flick. The flashback sequences would have been so cool and being he's obsessed with conspiracy theories he can offer firm affirmations in regards to whether Dafney and Velma were carpet munchers or whether Scoob or and Shaggy's adventures were purely hallucinations. And how in the the fuck could Shaggy fit whole triple decker sandwiches into his
mouth? Someone tell me that I want to know? Or why in the hell
do all the bad guys wear rubber masks?
Then Stone could move onto the chipmunks and speculate on why the chipmunks went to high school with a bunch of fuckin human kids and nobody seemed to notice they were fuckin chipmunks and they talked. Come to think of it Stone ain't doin shit these days anyways so that could be a cool endeavor for him. -
Ahh. I'm too tired to possibly continue debating about a movie that ultimately is as unimportant as Scooby Doo Hunnybee, so let's let this one go (if you'd like, I'll decalre you "the winner" just for kicks). Though I will leave one last note to the poster who noted our "debate" which is that, for better or worse, Freddie PRinze Jr said on Leno earlier this year that the movie WOULD be a Brady Bunch Movie type self parody, and have jokes about "Velma's questionable sexuality" and "Shaggy's questionable habits." NO MORE POSTS FOR THIS ARTICLE FROM I! Fare thee well. :)
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Warner Bros. can put out all the "positive" buzz they want, this movie will just suck! Why does Hollywood insist on turning TV shows and cartoons into live action films? They almost ALWAYS tank. The fact this film is being made in the first place is a mistake. Second, Matthew Lillard is in it, ARRRGH! Right there tells you how bad this is gonna be. What a tool. And why the lovely Ms. Geller is in this...well who knows? The whole concept of this just blows and WB knows it, they have a potential BO disaster on thier hands and now they are frantically trying to salvage what they can. OK, so your confident that the movie will be great, then like the man said, lets see this footage. When will the studios wise up and offer us some decent entertainment. I'll be sure to warn EVERYONE I know to avoid this turkey like the plague!
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when I became a grown man, brokenspeaker? That is all in good fun, btw, nothing personal meant. Ashfett, it is 5:00 AM here and I'm going to bed after this (I am also tired), so I will just say that I agree with you that, overall, the whole movie is silly, but so was the cartoon series. I only took offense with you, personally, when you "almost" (you stopped just short of the actual deed but it WAS implied) insulted my son. Many people here grew up with SD and some really still like it. I was a late bloomer in that area but I think that it is fun and "campy" and I think that people, including Harry, should keep it in perspective. This is not a movie that an "R" rating should ever be a question. This is a movie for kids and the kids should be comfortable with it and enjoy it. If the characters and their appearances are not close to the cartoon series, how much fun will that be for the children? While I have serious doubts about "jokes" regarding sexuality and possible drug habits, I have no opinion on the script and the set as I will wait until I see the movie with my son. After really understanding what some of the humor will contain, I WILL NOT TAKE MY SON TO SEE IT AT THE THEATER UNTIL I AM SURE IT IS APPROPRIATE AND WILL ENCOURAGE OTHER PARENTS OF VERY YOUNG CHILDREN TO THE SAME. I just hope, if he is allowed to see it, that it is close enough to the SD he knows that he will not be disappointed. There is no "winner" here, just a hopeful outlook for the kids.____A Looking For That Which Apparently Makes Me A Man Bee
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Fare thee well, too. :)____A Bee Testing Her Masculinity ;)
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Ok, so I'm off topic, but Gilbert, that is one perfect piece of casting: Clint Eastwood as the elder Bat in Batman Beyond. I can't imagine who could fill the shoes of the worthy successor.
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Harry, your constant bashing of this film, is holding no water whatsoever, even if you like it, you're not going to admit it. You're just going to continue to flame it like you've been doing since day one! I'll see to it that you recieve screening passes, so you can take a look at this film for what it is, a fun little film. By the way reviews for SUMMER CATCH ought to start rolling in soon....
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Freddy Prinze Jr. in Scooby Doo??!! Now I'm the one that's going to go look for a shotgun to end my misery! That's the problem with these idiots in Hollywood who trash what could be classic movies, because they never step out into the real world long enough to find out what really makes a movie successful. They just insert a load of crap from their own cesspool of an imagination and add a little of what they "think" is currently hip with the little whippersnapers, give a brief consultation to Moviemaking for Dummies, add a little sexual innuendo and viola! The only way I'm seeing this one is if there is some hard core dryhumping of Freddy's leg by the Scoobmeister! Or if Thema finaly vents her bisexual frustration with Daphne for 45 minutes of the movie. (anyone who has seen Cruel intentions, I dare you to dissagree!)
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"...the story, characters and dialogue -- all terrible." So what are we complaining about??? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there is *NO WAY* this could ever have been a good movie! If somebody decided to make a movie of say, My Mother The Car, or closer to home, The Funky Phantom, it would be a foregone conclusion that it would suck. Why all this wailing and gnashing of teeth? Don't even bother with this one. Skip it. Don't even rent it. Move on.
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a dousch bag has more talent the this poor ass fuck of an actor
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