Aug. 9, 2001, 5:25 a.m. CST
This show sounds decent, but when exactly does it premeiere?
Aug. 9, 2001, 5:45 a.m. CST
This sounds remarkably like the new DC Comic, Codename: Knockout. Not that I am saying one is a rip-off of the other, but it's an interesting coincidence. Why can't we have a lady secret agent in this day and age that does not have Daddy issues? *second*
Aug. 9, 2001, 6:08 a.m. CST
Because I actually liked the look of the tv series on USA a whole lot. It was so cool and if Alias is similar to that then I am in for a treat.
Aug. 9, 2001, 6:45 a.m. CST
by spike fan
Can anyone say Buffy rip-off. Only difference that she is a spy and not Vampire SLayer. Still I will give it a go though it hopefully it does not go the way of Dark Angel. On another note why do all the main charachters have to be WHITE ALL AMERICANS. For once I would love for it to be an AFrican American or a Mexican American or even a NATIVE AMERICAN. I mean the non white community is actualy higher than the white community in California. You would think that one time a black person would be the main charachter instead of as usual the goofy side kick
Aug. 9, 2001, 11:14 a.m. CST
This show may very well suck, but TBers GET A NEW SUIT! Whether something is good or bad is not intrinsically connected to its supposed "originality" or lack thereof. John Huston's version of The Maltese Falcon was the third film version of that book, the 1939 Wizard of Oz was the third or fourth version of that work. Are you telling me that you prefer Warren William to Humphrey Bogart as Sam Spade, or Oliver Hardy to Jack Haley as the Tin Man? (At the time, of course, the Judy Garland Wizard of Oz was dismissed by quite a number of critics as a retread of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs! Pre-internet geeks that they were, they were knowledgeable enough to be waiting for Shirley Temple in The Bluebird, which btw sucked big time.) Virtually all popular works of gangster lore are "knockoffs" of The Valachi Papers. So therefore no Godfather, Wiseguy, Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco, Sopranos??? And in the end Shakespeare's Hamlet is at points a scene-by-scene rewrite of Thomas Kyd's The Spanish Tragedy--so therefore Kyd's play is better??? The onsite complaints about the pending remakes of Day of the Dead and The Warriors seem to me more on target. This particular TV show may or may not suck; I may or may not watch it; but geeks of the world, GET A NEW MODE OF CRITIQUE! Thank you for your time; that is all.
Aug. 9, 2001, 11:28 a.m. CST
I'm a bit confused why this would take place in Taiwan, and why you would send caucasians to spy there, but oh well. I'll see it just for that little bit.
Aug. 9, 2001, 11:42 a.m. CST
by No. 41
...yes, everyone's out to rip off Buffy, I mean, after all, it gets a whole, what, 6 or 7 million viewers a week on WB / UPN or wherever it is these days? It's a fun show and all, but you guys are almost as funny as the SW types.
Aug. 9, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST
by Darth Diego
I've seen the pilot, and this show is neither a Dark Angel, nor a Buffy knockoff. I thought it rocked, and so has everyone else I've shown it to -- in fact, we're all a little irritated that we've had to wait so long for the season to start, because, like Moriarty, we'd like to see what happens in the second episode. Oh, and Spike Fan: both Sydney's best friend and her partner -- roles that look to be important throughout the series -- are African American, so relax.
Aug. 9, 2001, 1:17 p.m. CST
by Plenty O'Toole
Granted all things are derivative, but I think our very talentless boy JJ went a bit far with his aping of RUN LOLA RUN. The plot of ALIAS is completely different, sure, but check out the show's original promos... character with flaming red hair running to the techno track that Rheinhold Heil scored for the original Tykwer film. Christ, JJ... that's theft of intellectual property. I don't care if it's only packaged as such for the promos. Is it OK if I create a show with my character dressing up as Batman for a brief instant, hopping from rooftop to rooftop to the strains of the Elfman composition? Hell no. Not even for a promo. JJ basically dangles Tykwer's character in our face to get new viewers to watch his pathetic dribble. I'd like to see how interested Tykwer would be... I'm sure his permission wasn't sought.
Aug. 9, 2001, 1:59 p.m. CST
Is there really? That's interesting. As I recall DC also released a comic called Scarlett when Buffy the TV show first came out, about a blonde high school vampire killer. Hmmm...
Aug. 9, 2001, 2:30 p.m. CST
. . .Because most of us can guess about half way through what's going to happen. I did see this and while I agree with Mori on the daringness of the plot, once the fiancee winds up cacked, I pretty much guessed where it was going. It's pretty sad when the cutting edge becomes passe, even predictable. (Exhbit 1A- The last season of "Miami Vice.")
Aug. 9, 2001, 5:30 p.m. CST
ABC is planning to premiere "Alias" (commercial free!!) on Sept. 30.
Aug. 9, 2001, 6:02 p.m. CST
Yeah, that ad really Screams RLR... It better be a damn homage! However, somehow I foggily remember RLR's creator being somehow connected to Alias. Either that, or someone else got that impression from those Ads as well! Actually, Moriarity's reveiw of the show sounds kinda interesting. Perhaps someone could clear this up.
Aug. 10, 2001, 8:20 a.m. CST
Don't believe the hype. This piece of shit isn't a knock off of buffy or dark angel. It's a completely derivative sterile evocation of RUN LOLA RUN, LE FEMME, and JAMES BOND but lacking any of the relevance its inspiritions contained. It's not camp, it's not smart, and it doesn't know what it is. JJ thinks he's breaking new ground but all he has accomplished is an empty little tale filled with broadstroak storytelling devices and littered with overblown symbols. What a jackass.
Aug. 10, 2001, 12:41 p.m. CST
Darth Diego, I think what Spike Fan was talking about how in most American popular entertainment, especially genre entertainment, minorities in general and African Americans in particular are rarely the main protagonist. Look at current genre tv: Buffy, Angel, X-Files, Andromeda, Earth Final Conflict, Voyager, La Femme Nikita. The main characters, the "hero" is invariably white. While there may be minority character in the cast, rarely are they fully developed. At best they are the "side-kick". I've watched television my entire life and see this repeated again, and again waiting to see someone like myself as the focal point of a drama, or genre program. I think by telling Spike Fan to "relax" you're dismissing what is a very serious problem: Hollywood's refusal to base television programs around characters that are not white, and America's refusal to see minority groups in ways other than the stereotypes they're accustomed to. Now having said that, I'll probably check out "Alias" but it would nice to see a program with a minority character in the lead who the had opportunity to be "heroic", have a love life etc.
Aug. 10, 2001, 12:53 p.m. CST
I've seen the pilot and I gotta say that I agree with Moriarity. It looks good. Jennifer Garner does a good job with her character. I think that I also heard that it'll be shown commercial free because Motorola(?) paid to have 2 spots shown before and after the show.
Aug. 12, 2001, 3:18 a.m. CST
"Alias" is amazing. It is sheer fun. Jennifer Garner is great. The twists and turns are really wild. I don't watch a lot of network TV, but this is true quality and fun. Long live "Alias"
Aug. 12, 2001, 4:55 a.m. CST
by Junior D-Girl
If she doesn't repay him in kind then I will never watch another episode ever again! I hope she turns the tables on that Chinese bastard and pulls all of his rotten teeth out! Then I hope she pulls his nose off and his ears! :)