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About That CATWOMAN Review...
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Let it never be said that I can't admit a mistake.
When I ran BossHog's review of the CATWOMAN script yesterday, a very important mistake was made. I neglected to confirm that it was, in fact, the most recent draft that he had read.
Seems that what he reviewed was the Kate Kondell revision of the Theresa Rebeck script that was written a year ago. In the words of one of the many people who wrote me from in or around the CATWOMAN camp, the Kondell script is "a major shitbomb."
John Rogers is the writer who just turned in a draft of the script last week, and by all accounts, he's made major progress in turning this into a film worth putting in front of the cameras. As I said, I was contacted by several people who are associated with the film on the Warner Bros. side, and they were all indignant that I would, even by omission, suggest that the synopsis that ran here yesterday reflects the script the way it is right now. Word is the set pieces really crackle now, and the script has a much stronger sense of character and action overall.
I have no idea if Rogers reads AICN, or if anyone who does would pass word to Rogers, but I'd like to apologize directly to him for my mistake, and to those who are working with him to make sure that if CATWOMAN ends up in front of a camera, it will be something worthwhile. I'll certainly give them the benefit of the doubt based on the passion they demonstrated in defending the project to us today.
"Moriarty" out.
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It did sound pretty crap. Love and rockets meets catwoman!
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...guess what? It will STILL be a major shitbomb. Jiminy Christmas, how hard is it to adapt a comic book to screen with at least a SHRED of faithfulness to the source? I mean, there's visual reference AND character development in there!!! Shouldn't it be EASIER to adapt a comic (with proper resources available; money, effects, etc...) than most novels? Guess not. Is she going to be doing wire-fu to shitty recycled techno music and making witty references like "what did you expect, purple spandex?" and "isn't this the part where you tell me your master plan?"
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How can she be compared to Michelle Pfeiffer who had the best role of her career in Tim Burton's Batman Returns, in my humble opinion? Plus, they say she's a pain most of the times. Oh, who cares, I'm not the one working with her anyway...
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I've heard of this script before, and was shit then!!...
They need to completely change that crap.
And I agree it needs to be Selina Kyle in Gotham!! -
But hopefully they'll leave in that charming "round ass" scene.
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Jul 13, 2001 3:31:18 AM CDT
Sooooo,....this the Earth Two Catwoman in the funky red and yell
by atomoprime
My head hurts.... Can't wait for Spiderman...
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Rogers also wrote the great script for "Mage". i'd say Catwoman is better off in his hands than most... he seems to have more respect for comics than the majority of Hollywood types
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Fuck me, I love D.C. comics always have...but Marvel are fucking them up the arse when it comes to films. The last good DC film was Superman the movieand that was in the fucking '70s!! Batman COULD've been great but Tim (I have to film on a moody looking set) Burton made Gotham look like a village NOT a City!
As for Catwoman listen up Warner Dicks! IF SELINA KYLE IS NOT IN THE FILM....AND IT IS NOT SET IN GOTHAM THEN IT IS NOT A C-A-T-W-O-M-A-N FILM!!! Duh! -
Mr Rodgers, do us all a favor and ditch that idea. As many others have already said, Catwoman IS Selina Kyle and she operates in GOTHAM CITY!__Why don't you make it more of an action/suspense story instead of this feminist crap? Maybe have Catwoman hired to steal something, she gets there and catches someone else with thier hands on it. A fight ensues and the other thief gets away with the goods. Catwoman then has to track down the other thief and get back the item to save her rep. Or, she steals something from some bigwig, he gets pissed and hires a mercenary to get it back and kill Catwoman. Someone like Chesire or Deathstroke:The Terminator.___Both of those scenarios set Catwoman up as the anti-hero. Or you could have her be the "villian" engaged in a "cat & mouse game," (pun intended) with James Gordon and the GCPD.___Anything but that sad Batman Returns ripoff with the super dishwasher chips. Please. It's time WB got with it and started treating their characters with some respect.
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i'm pretty sure Warner Bros. won't let the writers use Selina Kyle as she was already used and abused in Tim Burton's Batman movie, and they don't want to revisit or rewrite the character. so it's basically a Catwoman movie in brand name only... sad but true
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is if the first script was totally SCRAPPED and begun anew. If the character is still "Patience", if the action takes place in "Bristol", and if there are any "dishwashers" in this draft, I don't care how the set pieces "crackle", its still SHIT.
A quick note for potential scriptwriters on this project:
1. Catwoman is SELINA KYLE
2. Her home base is GOTHAM CITY
3. She is a complex character with a GOOD SIDE and a BAD SIDE.
4. She doesn't have time for "feel good upbeat messages about inner beauty", because she's too busy KICKING ASS and PLUNDERING!
Thus ends the lesson. -
Though I gotta hand a big ole laurel branch to Moriarty for at least admitting when someone goofs. Listen up, Harry!
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Who was this girl they gave the script to? I wonder what warranted her involvement anyway? Where do they get these guys to adapt comics? Is it like a name out of a hat thing? On a lighter note...does anyone know of any websites that sell unproduced scripts? I was gonna buy a bunch of cool ones from one but it's disappeared. That is all.
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It may still be up on Script-O-Rama. It was pretty good. WB sure hasn't learned a damn thing from the botched Batman fRanchise idea.
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I know these film folks have to justify themselves with a new spin on the old girl but after the classic Julie Newmar catwoman and the Michelle Pfiffer version (how do spell that) where can you go?
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Jul 13, 2001 6:02:48 PM CDT
I am lmao(does this mean it's not round anymore?) and angry at t
by huneybee
Is anyone else's tb screen about SIX F**KING FEET LONG??? I have to scroll to the left(quick scroll) and then scroll to the left to read(slow scroll). Is this my computer or the tb? I wasn't laughing until I tried to "catch" my talkback button. Wheee...to the right....wheeee...to the left...wheee.....
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It seems that the "continuity slump" that Marvel had with their TV characters in the 70's & 80's has caught hold of the DC/WB crew. It's all gotta be "fresh, hot and jiggy with it". WB, take a note from Marvel: follow continuity,(eg.Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man) and you will have success. Granted, Marvel "does" tweak their movie & TV heroes occasionally, but they don't totally change their storylines. God, I still can't forgive you guys for a muscle-bound Mr. Freeze, and most heinous of all, making Batgirl "Alfred's niece from England without-a-British-accent".What WERE you thinking??? All I can say is, "Bring me the head of Akiva Goldsmith/Goldsman.
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to see just how much this movie will suck.
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Why in the hell do studios and screenwriters feel compelled to destroy every bit of these charicters backstories? It seems like to get a comic book movie made you have to throw out every single plot point that made that charicter popular in the first place. Do the studios really think we're not going to notice that the movie they're trying to sell us has absolutly NOTHING in common with the comicbook?
"...you see J.P., just put her in a skintight catsuit! Nobody will know the difference..."
The worst of it is this, you've already got an excellent backstory to play with! why trash it with this crap?
Message to the studios: Popular charicters are popular for a reason, don't reinvent the freaking wheel here. -
To tell you... YOU WERE WRONG! Oh, how wrong you were.
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