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Published at:  Jul 07, 2001 6:11:26 PM CDT

Hey folks, here's a ton of JURASSIC PARK 3 reviews.... They screened it in London apparently, and also New York? True, false? I don't know... some are loving it, some hate it... Back and forth... There have been some folks faking the review, but a friend in London missed the screening but confirmed it existed... now the New York screening I don't know that that took place.... but here they are for your pleasure....




JURASSIC PARK 3 - REVIEW!!!

Hi Harry - Long time reader, first time writer.

Tonight I managed to see a screening in London of Jurassic Park 3! I have been looking forward to this film for a long time so I was extremely happy this aftenoon
when a collegue at the BBC gave me two spare tickets to a press screening.

Since receiving these tickets I have spent most of this day in shock because I have
searched high and low for reviews of this film and there is just nothing out there, I've been desperate to know what kind of a job Joe Johnston has done and suddenly I've been able to find out for myself - and I thought I would let you know the result.

By the way call me the judge, you will see why is this review.

I'm pleased to say this film did not disappoint me, its a success and more then we could have hoped for. Yet there are things that undermine my happiness at the same time.

See I'm calling myself the judge because this film has a distinct for and against feeling for me. Many viewers will love this, many will loathe - its that kind of movie.

You see I love my 'Jurassic Parks' and I love my 'memento's'. I'm someone who can seperate my appreciations of films and movies.
Yet in Jurassic Park 3 I found my film side completely objecting to my movie side.

The problem with JP3 is that the film is so 'slight'. Nothing really happens in the sense of narrative. There is no begining, just a 10 minute sequence introducing characters, and the film just kind of ends and your left thinking 'hey where did they put the last 20 minutes'. Maybe this is a result of the problems leaked from the set.

What we have here is just one massive middle section of film. Plane crashes, people call for help, leave the island - and that is it!!! And this bugs me because I love Jurassic Park 1 because it had story, a moderate intelligance and it made you appreciate the dinousaurs when they attack.
Here though we have one long series of attacks and escapes. It doesn't do any more then this. Plus the dinosaurs (especially the spinosaurus) appear so early you get worried that Johnston is going to blow his load to early.

But that is my critical side. All I can say is to all those I have worried is this - the middle section KICKS MAJOR FUCKING ARSE. The dinosaurs are amazing and it is so intense and exhausting when they attack. This film does not give you room to breathe and I found this good. I was generally excited and thrilled during JP3, and that hasn't happened to me since Crouching Tiger and in terms of event films even as far back as Toy Story 2. The dinosaurs look amazing, Stan Winston has outdone himself this time. The set pieces are spectacular and don't look like some half arsed piece of crap like the FX in the Mummy Returns - no these creatures are REAL - REAL GOD DAMN IT.

Another contradiction is this. I was upset that the T-Rex is in the film for about five seconds, and that is it. I love T-Rex and I missed him like a son in this movie.

But then Johnston has had the balls to drop the most savoured dinosaur in the world for the spinosaurous. And it does pay off. Part of the problem with the LOST WORLD was that Spielberg just made JP1 again in terms of set pieces.

But here we have a director with balls and it makes JP3 feel fesh, almost a different series alltogether. And the peradactors are extremely exciting- dinosaurs attacking in the air, I've been waiting a long time for that on the big screen.

I also didn't like the way that these characters have a 30 second introduction.

But then I felt like I knew them anyway. I had a big smile when Sam Neil went off on his whole 'playing god' argument again.
Then I didn't like the annoying kid.... only acctually despite a dreadful 'heroric' introduction I quite liked him.

My only real complaint that I can't defend is that there is not enough DEATH!! The fact that there are only a few characters means that we know most of them will survive. And they escape the claws of the reaper so many times that it almost began to parody. It felt like Adam West in Batman. 'Bollocks Robin we are fucked... what we going to do Batman... I don't know we will have to wait till next time' JP3 was like this. An impossible situation that always seemed to have some piece of fortune.

And this relates to my problem with the ending

-SPOILER ALERT-

Basically they get off the island by finding a mobile phone in dinosaur shit and then phoning for help!! What?? I mean what kind of climax is that? Did they run out of budget? I don't know but I felt they needed to kick some dinosaur arse, or kill some people off.

Despite these problems I still really enjoyed it. I have felt let down a lot this year by the unfulfilled promises of the summer season. The mummy was as much fun as watching your mates on a computer game, with Tomb Raider I would gladly prefer to watch my mates on a computer game. Captain Corelli was tedious and lazy and Pearl Harbour, although I liked it, could have been so much more.

So I'm just glad that Joe Johnston has given me a 90 minute movie filled with more stunning set pieces then you will find in all the movies mentioned above.

If the thought of a fight between a spinosaurous and a T. Rex gets you foaming then just you wait.. thats not enough for you... how about a massive battle of wits with those pesky raptors... or the Stampede... or the underwater cage vs the spinos teeth... or the peradactors plucking characters from the ground like worms to a bird.

At the end of the day I left JP3 with a smile on my face. One of happiness and one of content. Content that Joe had the balls to make a movie that was different to a Spielberg one - a Spielberg immitator scared me sooo much, but JP3 is not that.
It has its problems and some will not like this, but it did it for me and it will be a triumph.

Verdict: Guilty of being a loud fun, exciting piece of entertainment.

THE JUDGE




AND NOW A NEW ONE...




Harry:

Patch from Madripor checking in. I was invited to an exhibitor's screening
of JP3 in NYC today. I wasn't about to miss this screening. I enjoyed
the first two films but like the majority of moviegoers I was left a little
disappointed by The Lost World.

Jurassic Park 3 is a fun summer popcorn movie. It is darker and gritter
than the Spielberg films and parents may not find this one suitable for
younger children.

Spoilers ahead.

The plot: A para-gliding accident strands a man and a young boy
on the Site B island from The Lost World. An ill-prepared
rescue team lands on the island and is quickly in need of
rescueing from the dinos.

Is this film as good as the first two? I found it better than Lost World
which I thought was uninspired. It is not as good as the first film.
The novelity of dinos on film is what made Jurassic Park. These sequels
suffer from the same problem as the Jaws sequels---You have seen the
shark or dinos before so what do you do now. Make bigger dinos --of course.
The new dino, Spinosaurus is bigger and faster than the T-Rex.

Joe Johnston handles the action sequences with the same deftness of
Spielberg. In fact I found the two major action sequences " The Avairy"
and "The River Boat ride" to be more exciting than anything in the Lost World
and nearly as exciting as the T-Rex sequence in the first film.

I found the editing in spots to be choppy. The film is about 90 minutes
and it appears to have been trimmed down to keep the pacing tight.
This works well throughout the film until you get to the end which seems
abrupt.

I think some people are going to find problems with the film such as
not enough characterization or plot and the acting sucks,
but tell me which summer film doesn't suffer from these same problems.

If you want to have a good time, get a large bucket of popcorn, a
large pepsi and a bag of peanut M&Ms and enjoy.

See you at the movies!!!






AND THIS ONE....



Good day, good day!

John Hammond here, fresh from cloning a whole flock of dodos for use on my
new island in the Mediterranean. I happened to take in a screening of
Jurassic Park 3 this morning, and I wanted to pass along my thoughts on the
whole thing.

First, let's dispense with the spoiler-free critique (I'll leave the plot
summary mostly shrouded in misty fog): Alan Grant and a group of
not-so-bright people go on a rescue mission to Isla Sorna, where they quickly
find themselves immersed in dinosaurs and death. This is a fun movie, a fast
movie, the very essence of a summer popcorn blockbuster. When the dinosaurs
appear, cool stuff happens. When the dinosaurs are absent, though...well,
that's when the movie drags. A lot. I don't want a tepid love angle between
Tea Leoni and William H. Macy to stand in the way of dinosaurs. Do you?

Oh, and at this point I have to put in a formal request to the bigwigs at
Universal (and this may even be directed at Stevie Spielberg himself):
RE-EDIT THE END. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T LEAVE IT HOW IT IS!!! I will
explain that in a moment, when the spoilers pop out of their eggs and run
around.

Yeah, you leave the theatre going "That was certainly a movie of an exciting
nature. I suppose it was a thrill ride. I suppose it was a video game. But
was it Jurassic Park?" Joe Johnston has a much different feel than Stevie S.
did. His goal is not an exloration into chaos theory or a call to arms
against hunting. He just wants to make a good old-fashioned dino action
movie. His characters (with the exception of Grant, who was established in
the first movie) are chock-full of tedious development and really, really bad
jokes. And meaningless insight. Whoo, boy. They could chop out ALL of the
so-called character development and have just the rest and this movie would
be fine. It clocks in at an hour and a half, dammit! There just aren't
enough big dino scenes to support hokey jokes and estranged couples falling
back in love.

I have to go all spoiler-y now. It's the only way to truly get this out.

First, the ending I yelled about before. There is no grand finale battle
between the T-Rex and the Spino where the Rex kicks the Spino's ass. Nope.
Nada. It's gone. Therefore, the last time we see Mr. Rex, it's a half hour
into the movie and he is falling to the ground, dead. So long, Rex. He
doesn't come back. He doesn't get his comeuppance. AND HE NEEDS HIS
COMEUPPANCE!! This is such an annoying cut that I almost have to say it
ruins the movie. There is no satisfaction. The Spino is a villain through
and through. He needs to be taken down. By raptors, by Rex, hell, by the
Compys. But no.

The movie ends kind of like the first one. All the survivors are flying off
in a chopper (including a survivor who, by all accounts, had NO REASON to
have survived. He was eaten by pteranodons in the middle of the film but
somehow popped up living in the end...) and three winged animals fly by. But
unlike the first one, these aren't birds. They are pteranodons. Flying.
Off the island. Loose. And no one seems to care much. Tea Leoni makes a
stupid, stupid joke about how they better not settle down in Oklahoma (I kid
you not) and THAT'S IT! Dear sweet mother of pearl, they need to re-edit
that ending. I pray for it.

Let's talk about the humor. There are smart jokes in the movie (Ellie's son
distractedly watching "Barney," for instance). But there are others that are
so stupid that you want the characters eaten just for saying them. In this
vein, I have to say that Michael Jeter was a BAD choice for Udesky. He is a
fine actor (see Green Mile), but here he comes of as a cartoon. For that
matter, so do the two gun-crazy goons he brings with him. Luckily, they are
Purina Spino Chow in the first reel.

I guess I've sounded kind of down about ol' JP3 here. Let me make one thing
clear: I liked this movie. I'll see it again when it's public. But it had
some issues. Some movie badly need to have scenes cut to make the movie
flow. With this film, additions need to be made. More dino fighting, less
human interaction. The whole pteranodon action scene was amazing, as was the
plane crash/Spino attack and the magnificent battle royale between the Rex
and the Spino (except, of course, that the crowd-pleasing Rex should have
come back to settle the score). The raptors were very well done, too, though
they were much less of a threat. The whole "They can talk to each other"
worked more to make them weaker than scarier, since Grant found a way to
"talk" to them at one point. I guess you can chalk it up to the bad ending
that the last time we see the raptors, they have all the humans surrounded
and they end up just running away without eating anyone.

To wrap this stream of consciousness up, JP3 is a good popcorn movie. Go
into it with no big expectations and you'll be happy. DON'T expect a scary
movie. The violence is not that present, I'm afraid. It can be an intense
movie, but it isn't as incredibly suspenseful or scary as the trailers imply.
And be ready for a WEAK ENDING. I implore the powers that be to reinsert
any cut last battle between the T-Rex and the Spino where the Rex wins. Oh,
and cut out a half dozen or so "getting to know you" human interaction scenes
which bog this (already short) movie down. These two changes would double
the film's enjoyability. But alas, it won't happen.

In the words of Ian Malcolm, "there it is."






and here's this...



Hi Guys,

I thought I'd drop you a line....on JP 3 ....which was screened in London
last night


which I thought was totally crap....the story is very weak (rescue the boy +
leave) ...and it is a very short film 90 mins max....

there is no character development you don't feel for anyone of the
players.....I do n't want to give away too much but there is a cameo from
another character from JP 1......even though this does n't really add to the
story much

dino effects were ok....I' missed the T REX which gets its cum up ance
quite early on.......there is a running gag with a mobile phone but that is
about it.....we 've been here before...this has nothing new to add except
that the raptors are very intelligent

and speak to one another....

well that's it I hope I did n't give too much away.....but I would stay away
from this moving as it is extinct



Pete

London

and then this one....



Just to let you know that London (England) Radio Station XFM sent 2
reviewers to see Jurasic Park 3 last night, and their views were aired on
the breakfast show this morning, one was a journalist the other a listener,
both declared that it was absolutely shite and certainly as bad as the Lost
World, if not worse. (never seen The Lost World myself, so no idea how bad
it is)

Don't know whether this is of use to you, they didn't really give out any
more plot details, just said that the dino's were v.good

If you use this, I'm ActionJackson



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    Readers Talkback

  • Jul 07, 2001 6:20:28 PM CDT

    What about the Pterydactyl?

    by projectordust

    No one mentioned the birdcage scene or the Pterydactyl! (spelling?) Isn't that supposed to be the movie's big highlight?

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  • Jul 07, 2001 6:22:43 PM CDT

    my bad, they did mention them

    by projectordust

  • Jul 07, 2001 6:25:24 PM CDT

    Oh God!!!!

    by stitch

    Intelligent Dinos talking to each other. Oh, crap!!! What is this, Cats & Dogs part2???

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  • Jul 07, 2001 7:03:48 PM CDT

    My two prehistoric cents

    by ridge

    Im a fan of the Jurassic Park movies, I loved the first one, and hell I even thought the second one was cool as heck, EXCEPT the gymnastics bit.... shouldnt the raptor have just opened its mouth and tore her legs off?
    But anyhow, with all the nay sayers and people who go on and on about how the third will be crap? Give it a chance? Hell lately I've learned that not only does a budget of a movie not mean a damned thing as to its quality, but sometimes it can be more of an advantage to have a smaller budget, because THEN the movie makers are forced to concentrate on PLOT rather than FX... I learned this by watching The Crow 3, which I loved. It had as much character as the first movie, it had the violence of the first and more, and what more, it had the heart of the first. And none of the shit the second had. The Jurassic Park movies started wavering with part 2 a little, tho I did like it still, but part 3, a new directors vision, a new flock of dinosaurs (well theyre flocking this way!) and just the fact we have more people goin up against the dinos! For all you people who complain about the plot.... People go to the island, something bad happens, people have to get off the island.... well all you GENIUSES what other friggin plot could you come up with? Dinos in the city? Didnt we see that in Godzilla?

    And we all know how *great* Godzilla was right?

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  • Jul 07, 2001 7:35:35 PM CDT

    JP3 ending and the end of the Lost World...

    by sethshandor

    A Pterydactyl is shown flying around free on the island. I always wondered... why hell wouldn't it just fly off the Island where it would be the biggest thing on the food chain? (of course I always wondered more what the hell supposedly happened on the boat, but I'm not about to open THAT can of worms again).

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  • Jul 07, 2001 7:38:52 PM CDT

    TRex trashed

    by torpedo224

    The Trex fights and loses to a dinosaur that is supposed to be a fisheater and scavenger. Oh well. It better be as good a fight as they say. The unrealism in cinema makes it fun to watch.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 7:46:10 PM CDT

    WHY DIDN'T THEY BRING THE BMG??

    by seward

    These people will never learn. How many times do they have to get stranded on this island before they remember to bring the big fifty?? It was practically designed to take down Jurassic predators.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 7:56:12 PM CDT

    Jurassic Park 4

    by you ate sand?

    I say in the next installment, and yes there will be another one, take it to the dinos! For anyone that read the first book, is there anything more satisfying than a Rocket Launcher blowing off the upper body of an unsuspecting raptor?

    The plot is simple: Dinosaur Hunting is the new extreme sport, people come from all over the world to shoot, capture, and fight bare handed with these creatures. I want to see some Dinos take a nice rocket to the jaw.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 8:01:09 PM CDT

    Sounds mostly positive....

    by indy29

    Looks good enough to me....
    I wasn't expecting shakespeare...
    I cant wait, it should be a neat little ride of a movie....
    Sam Neill rocks.............................................................................

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  • Jul 07, 2001 8:04:40 PM CDT

    What about...

    by robert blake

    ...a "Cadillacs and Dinosaurs" movie? Must be better than the crap JP3 seems to be.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 8:08:59 PM CDT

    T-REX........The KING!

    by neosamurai85

    First off I hope these reviews are fake. I got to talk with Stan Winston awhile back and he mentioned that there was going to be a fight scene where the T-Rex took on a bigger meaner Dino in a original (Arthur Conan Dole) Lost World (ish) like bout. I think I herd him mumble something like

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  • Jul 07, 2001 8:10:15 PM CDT

    Dino shit...

    by uncapie

    ...you put it your cars. It makes them go. It costs around $2.25(If you're lucky.) a gallon. "Hey, so my kid wanted some dinosaur shit for Christmas, so I got him a can of 20w50. Thank you very much! I'm here all week! Try the shrimp!

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  • Jul 07, 2001 8:37:47 PM CDT

    tea leoni must die

    by dignan777

    how can she not die? that was one of my main reasons for going to see this movie, to watch her get ripped apart by some raptors.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 9:02:40 PM CDT

    Save your breath... and don't reply to the fact that I said "MAY

    by neosamurai85

  • Jul 07, 2001 9:23:30 PM CDT

    RANTING MY HEAD OFF ABOUT HOW PISSED I AM THAT REX IS NOT GETTIN

    by neosamurai85

    Sobody please tell me who made the Raptors king? who said "Raptors good! T-Rex washed up. what more can they do with these Raptors that makes them in and REX out!? Yeah I know about that whole there getting smartter thing (which I think is the stupitest idea I've herd I some time! But if that's what there thinking of to keep those little lizard mutts in then why cant they think use some of the stuff they never used from the books that the T-Rex did? Lik the river boat scene! that rocked! and what about some of the other cool Dinos that were in the Books? That one that had the skin like a chameleon from THE LOST WORLD? and what about the fact that we already know all the types of Dinos out there!? The DNA test samples in the lab in JP the computers the guides that the bad guys had in LW telling them all the dinos on the island!? and which site are they on? A or B? we have see everthing on site A through maps and such and we got a good look around site B and found anly a lab site. Are they going to tell us we did not see all of site B and that the village and stuff that were not put in the film are in fact there? didn't we see a map of that whole island too? AAAHHHH!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE! Before Raptor fan stone me I want to say that i really do like the Raptors. It's just pissing me off that REX is getting dissed like this. He's THE STAR! it's like makeing a Hellraser film without PINHEAD! See what I mean? HE's THE Fricken LOGO!

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  • Jul 07, 2001 9:28:08 PM CDT

    St. Buggering

    by neosamurai85

    Yeah I'm with you there...

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  • Jul 07, 2001 9:39:31 PM CDT

    In the First film...

    by sethshandor

    Dodgson or whatever his name tells Nedry hope much he'll pay him for all viable embryos he gets of all the species they have. He mentions the number of species as well, somewhere between 14-18 I believe... so as far as the first films there were supposedly only that many species on the island. (Supposedly Ingen kept hard at work according to the third film, hence the Spino...) And not that'd work in future films but an interesting angle also from the first was that plant life from the dinos era as well were brought back. Even with all the Dino fiascos and loss of revenue from that, one "wonder drug" made from formerly exinct plant life could easily keep them in the red. Of course, I'm thinking things through more than any Jurassic Park sequel script writer ever would....

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  • Jul 07, 2001 10:04:06 PM CDT

    You ate sand? Is on to something...

    by merkin muffley

    That's actually a pretty cool idea. The ultra-rich extreme hunters and all. At least it's a reason for people to be there in the first place which is something this film sounds like it glosses over.

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  • Jul 07, 2001 10:45:38 PM CDT

    BBC Online gave JP3 4 out of 5 stars

    by shoeless

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2001/07/06/jurassic_park_3_2001_review.shtml

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  • Jul 07, 2001 10:50:59 PM CDT

    Um, I screwed that BBC Online thing up

    by shoeless

    BBC Online reviewer gave it 3 out of 5, average user gave it 4 out of 5 (???) Really. Well, they liked it anyway. http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2001/07/06/jurassic_park_3_2001_review.shtml

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  • Jul 07, 2001 11:46:56 PM CDT

    A dino hunting movie is already in production!!!

    by lord_soth

    This one was copied from Dark Horizons: "A Sound of Thunder - Directed by Renny Harlin. A game hunter goes on a time-traveling safari to hunt dinosaurs in the prehistoric era. When confronted by a Tyrannosaurus, he loses his nerve, stumbles off the appointed path and inadvertently changes history.
    Stars: Pierce Brosnan"

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  • Jul 08, 2001 12:02:30 AM CDT

    The Sequel- Problem

    by oliver l.

    Now, why do most people think, JP2 - LOST WORLD is worse than JP1? To be honest: It's just the same I thought when I left the movie after having seen JP2! But some time ago I have watched JP1 and JP2 in the same week on DVD, and now I have to admit: JP2 is better than the first part, better in nearly every respect! JP2 is darker, faster, there is a real conflict on the human side between science and industry and not just a theme- park- start with some faults; hell, even the charakters are more interesting, especially the hunter (Postlethwaite). Malcolm (Goldblum) is only going to the island to rescue his girlfriend; why is Grant (Neill) going back in JP3? He should know better!
    The problem with JP2, though, are the dinosaurs: Sure, there are more of them, in fact, much, much more, but there is nothing new about them. While watching the movie I hoped Spielberg would show us why the dinosaurs are extinct; perhaps because of their being just too aggressive, too bloodthirsty, so that they started to attack each other, but no... So there is nothing really new about the dinosaurs in JP2, and this, of course, was also to me a disappointment. Nevertheless, there is certainly more action, more thrill, even more humour in JP2 than in JP1. JP2 would be much better than JP1 if it wouldn't be its sequel!

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  • Jul 08, 2001 1:45:10 AM CDT

    Harry,

    by ben fong torres

  • Jul 08, 2001 1:46:37 AM CDT

    The only way it'll ever be better is if......

    by the founder

    Universal allows them to kick up the rating from PG13 to rated R.
    The main problem is the film is limited because they can't show a Raptor tearing into a human the way it can. I think Universal should have had enough faith to let the producers make it more violent, hell they already made a ton of money on the first two, and I doubt an R rating would hamper the profits that much.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 1:46:43 AM CDT

    Harry,

    by ben fong torres

    For the love of God, get rid of those damn pop up adverts!
    Glad people like the movie - now AI is out of the way, this is the one i'm most looking forward to for the rest of this otherwise miserable summer.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 2:51:35 AM CDT

    Yet another "good" movie with a shitty ending

    by saigonwhore

  • Jul 08, 2001 4:48:32 AM CDT

    Jesus these posts are nasty sometimes

    by samwave

    Does anybody really want to see someone shreaded like a peice of pork? I don't feel the urge. Popup ads? Download one of those programs that close pop up windows from download.com. They fucking suck, and they're everywhere now.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 4:54:26 AM CDT

    DOES TEA LEONI DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH

    by ncontrol

    Cause I won't pay sh*t if she doesn't....

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  • Jul 08, 2001 5:01:59 AM CDT

    well

    by gah rides again

    The reason why they focus so much on the Raptors is that they're small and cost a lot less money and take a lot less time to animate than a giant fucking T-Rex, let alone a fight between the T-Rex and an even bigger animal.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 6:00:52 AM CDT

    LOOK, these review don't matter, and you know it!!!

    by theone3510

    I know that JP3 is gonna suck donkey balls. am i gonna see it? of course. am i looking forward to it? of course. why?? because i just wanna see some action. hell, joe johnston is never gonna be spielberg, but he can at least have a couple good action scenes!

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  • Jul 08, 2001 6:27:21 AM CDT

    Lost World underrated, JP OVERrated.

    by idontgiveadamn


    You know, the superhyped first movie had 6 minutes of dino footage surrounded by weak characters and no plot.
    Lost World had its share of problems, but at least they had some plot direction and an antagonist(though they ripped off King Kong for most of it) who gets his comeuppance. Now this film. I had hope when I didnt see a kid running around. But then I hear there is a brat in it.
    Why the kids? Why? Why?

    Retire the raptors. They get boring. They shouldnt have been the villians in the first movie, at least they had a small role in the second.

    And the T-rex--Spinosaurus fight. How could they blow it?
    My god where is Harryhausen when we need him?

    And please--no JP 4.
    WE DONT NEED IT!

    The Phantom eidtor should take all three of these films and edit it into one long epic. Thrown in a cameo by Ernest Borgnine and we can have this Irwin Allen feel to it.


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  • Jul 08, 2001 6:39:06 AM CDT

    Smells like shit

    by emperorcaligula

    Basically what it probably is.
    Come on, it sounds like the ending is just as bad as in AI. Definitely time to let the fag studio execs feel the wrath of movie geeks. Keep your money for real flicks like Episodes 2 and 3, LOTR trilogy, Matrix 2 and 3. Here are movies that more or less were planned before anyone came with the idea to make sequels just to cash on.
    Oh, and about flying dinos, give me a break, those ebasties had hollow bones and even the big ones didn't weighted 100 pounds. 10 pterodactyls would be far less a threat than 3 raptors or 1 T-Rex.
    Now, if they want to do something impressive, they should try the massive sea-dinos, the 60-feet long leviathan that ate T-Rex for lunch.
    Hum, another annoying kid. I won't pay 1 cent to see such crappy idea.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 7:51:54 AM CDT

    I agree, I too liked Lost World better...

    by bigtuna

    Did anyone else find JP incredibly boring? Lost World had better action, more dinos, plot etc. And I hated those 2 kids in the movie and the sappiness of having Grant learn to love kids having those 2 brats around.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 9:58:09 AM CDT

    logo?

    by zackiechan6

    This movie sounds great...but for those of you talking about how the T-Rex should be in it more because of the logo...well, look at the NEW logo...that's a spinosaurus!
    I'm glad this movie is as violent and badass as they said it would be...I can't wait. Bad endings and no plot can be forgiven...at least by me...I wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking, anyhow! Just great action scenes, and i guess this will deliver!

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  • Jul 08, 2001 10:52:54 AM CDT

    Y'know what pissed me off about the Lost World?

    by jonquixote

    Aside from mediocrity and the fact that I had to see it three times in the theatres! What pissed me off was this: in the book, there were these crazy chameleon-esque dinos that could blend in with the background. I don't know about the scientific or palentological plausability of these guys, but damned if it wasn't a great one-up. Invisible dinosaurs is a helluva way to up the ante in the sequel. And they would make an incredibly intense visual. So what do we get in The Lost World? More raptors. Yawn. Maybe it would be better if there was a single character to care about, but still. Yawn. Rip-off. Major disappointment. The first movie wasn't that great either, but it was really toned down for kids, which made sense from a marketing perspective. The novel is still probably the best pulp thriller to come down the pipe in the past twenty years, and I'll go see JP3 just to finally get a look at the aviary!

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  • Jul 08, 2001 11:07:20 AM CDT

    They should never made sequels to JP

    by darthflagg

    Jurassic Park was the first film to have believable dinosaurs, and was a pretty decent film in its own right. You can't recapture that magic, no matter how much CGI is thrown at the screen. I say let Tim Burton make Dinosaurs Attack! At least that would be something different.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 12:13:59 PM CDT

    the ways of joe

    by evilraimi

    joe has a way of making his films great and the ways of not making this film a big carbon copy of speilbergs first two films. the reasojn why there is no charactor development is because you already know who Dr. grant. isnt that theonly person you really need to know(j/k)? there really can't be any "park" story or any scientific story because the already explained this in the first two films. im sure joe did a great job on this film, it's just that you people are too loyal to steven,....and thats ok.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 12:18:37 PM CDT

    the ways of joe (spelling fixed) i feel dumb

    by evilraimi

    joe has a way of making his films great and the ways of not making this film a big carbon copy of speilbergs first two films. the reason why there is no charactor development is because you already know who Dr. grant. isnt that the only person you really need to know(j/k)? they really can't be any "park" story or any scientific story because they already explained this in the first two films. i'm sure joe did a great job on this film, it's just that you people are too loyal to steven,....and thats ok.

    evil ash

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  • Jul 08, 2001 1:31:12 PM CDT

    little kids,gymkada,raptors.....

    by stimpson j cat

    I say there is no way ill get threw this flick without getting slaped in the face with CHEEZZZ

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  • Jul 08, 2001 1:51:12 PM CDT

    Awwwww......mannnnnnn.

    by scorpionspawn

    The Trailers looked good, they were edited well. Now we get told that the ending is a comlete cop-out, and that the T- Rex is slaughtered early just to prove how lethal the spinosaurus is........ WELL, MAY I JUST SAY THIS..... DON'T FUCK WITH GOD!!!! big Stevie S realised one invaluable trait in past JP movies, that dispite how much of a threat he was, no-one liked to see the T- Rex meet his maker. We always knew he would either burst in to save the day or eat the snivelling companyman we all wished would get his head ripped off, And this time we should have had an injured spinosaur in tha last act get hunted by a pair of T-Rex and the last thing we see is the spino collapsing to the ground exhausted and looking back as the two Rex slowly move in for the kill. Only we find out that a mobile phone saves the day, and people who were carried off reappear, firstly how much was the studio payed to use that by a phone company, and secondly.... Dinosaurs do not let people go ( Hey Mr. Director... Please see every past dinosaur movie for reference.) The director should have been made to watch the entire series of walking with dinosaurs before he shot this. Maybe instead of filming another JP movie.... big Stevie S should have taken the decision to film a big screen version of Dinotopia : A land apart from time. Now this would have been good, only now we have Hallmark entertainment making it for the small screen.... Boo Hoo.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 4:28:32 PM CDT

    re: Meg/Megalodon

    by huneybee

    There are two different movies about megalodons. Meg is the one you talking about and is based on a book which came out in the mid 90's(if I remember correctly). It was a very entertaining book and would be easily adaptable to screen. Unfortunately, according to Coming Attractions, it is stuck in developmental hell. They have a listing for both movies.

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  • I mean, come on! They couldn't find a new look for the guy? A mullet and a bad seventies mustache just ain't the best look for a skinny, middle-aged, red headed guy - you know what I mean? And poor Alan Grant. The real suspense is that his character miraculously escaped the sequal... only to show up in the third installment! Who said this wasn't horrific enough?

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  • Jul 08, 2001 10:33:03 PM CDT

    About the lost world

    by bib fortuna

    I was looking forward to that movie because I had read the book and loved it. Then they procceded to rip it apart and only one scene from the book made it on screen. This next movie will most likely be better than that. No dinos in California is a plus, and finally they use the flying dinosaurs. Sounds like an Ok boring summer day type of movie.

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  • Jul 08, 2001 10:50:21 PM CDT

    Here's what I have to say about LW, JP, Meg and Kong (it's a ran

    by neosamurai85

  • everyone saw Smokey and The Bandit, or, no more space movies because of Star Wars. I definately get your point. Indeed, when I read the book and imagined it as a movie, I noted the similarity between Jaws and Meg, i.e. large shark eats people and man tries to warn everyone but no one believes him. There are also a lot of differences. Even though parallels will be drawn, the book simply begs, to me, to be developed into a movie. It has been a while since I read Meg(years) but there are still several scenes described in the book that I can visualize as if I read them yesterday. Even if you disagree with me completely, I recommend you read Meg and decide for yourself._______a Bee offering an opinion

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  • Jul 09, 2001 1:34:06 AM CDT

    Why bother with this shit?

    by killallgeeks

    You know, I just don't understand why anybody would bother to even consider seeing the second sequel to a piece of crap like Jurassic Park. I loved the book, but when you fuck up an adaptation so badly that the only returning characters in the sequel are two of the ones killed in the first book, you should have your Writer's Guild membership revoked. Shitberg is probably the only director who could film his left testicle for two hours and get it released to mass-media critical acclaim and financial success. Of course, ol' Steve would have to add a couple of precocious kids and a quarreling/estranged couple to make it fit his formula, but it would probably still get half of you basement-dwelling morons to stand in line for hours to see it, even though you'd complain about it later. If you think it's gonna suck, don't fucking buy a ticket!!!! You assholes bitch about lousy films making money and getting marketed to the hilt, but you just consume them like everyone else! If you want to send Hollywood a message, keep your ticket money in your fucking wallet, or go buy a DVD of something that was worth your time!!!!!

    P.S. Fuck the Tyrranosaurus Rex and all you basement dwelling fanboys ranting for pages about it getting killed too quick. Natural selection's a bitch.

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  • Jul 09, 2001 3:29:40 AM CDT

    sea dinos, 60 foot leviathan

    by dienekes

    To those who have been talking about Megladon. This is not likely to be the 60 foot leviathan mentioned by the original talkbacker for the simple reason that it is not a dino.
    The more likely candidate is Liopleurodon. This was the largest predator that has ever lived. It attained lengths of more than 80 feet and would certainly look pretty good in a JP movie.
    If anyone would like to know more I can reccomend the 'Walking with Dinosaurs' DVD which contains a segment on it.

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  • Jul 09, 2001 4:17:20 AM CDT

    MUSIC MAESTRO PLEASE!!!

    by jim lad

    WHAT'S THE MUSIC LIKE!!??

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  • Jul 09, 2001 4:24:28 AM CDT

    There it is...........

    by jim lad

    Is the familiar theme still there?
    Has Williams work been undone? Answer me goddamnit!

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  • Jul 09, 2001 6:33:37 AM CDT

    damn you all

    by eriol

    for not caring about plot and good endings etc. That is why movies suck this year. That is why studios can get away with the drivel on celluloid that was The Mummy Returns. People keep saying, "damn all I want is a good action movie." Do you understand that plot, and good pacing, and good editing, are all major factors in making a good action film? Think about your favorite action movie, and you'll probably find that it was good in at least two of those categories. And until you all realize that and start boycotting shit like The Mummy Returns and Pearl Harbor, and Jurassic Park 45: Dinos do Dallas then Hollywood is going to keep pumping out the same mass and fast produced junk food cinema that you all claim to crave. Raise your standards - the fans do have an effect on what is out there in OUR movie theaters. If no one goes to see a shite film, then studios will stop making shite films. Whens the last time good film came out of Hollywood? Give me more Momento. Give me more Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Dear Lord Peter Jackson please make me believe again

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  • Jul 09, 2001 9:00:27 AM CDT

    JP3: Send Joe Johnston's kids to college.

    by rabid_republican

    The JP "franchise" (as it were) could use a boost and from the look of the trailers, I'm still not even the least bit discouraged by the talkbacks here. True, the over use of raptors is a case of going to the well one too many times, but I'm going for the rest of the dinos like, Spino and T-Rex. It'll also be great to see Sam Neil again. Pity they couldn't team him with Jeff Goldblum again.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Not so sure about You Ate Sand's dino hunting idea, as that was tried in The Lost World, a movie where an alledgedly world class hunter decides to WALK OUT INTO THE OPEN in an attept to kill the T-Rex...hmm...no. Given the inconsistent track record in writing for the franchise, that sequel would probably have the EVIL AND ALWAYS SINISTER STAPLE HUMAN HUNTER smothering himself in cow's blood crackin' "It keeps `em away yessir...got us some dino repellant." I'll be happy if Johnston remains more JP than Spielberg's PC.

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  • Jul 09, 2001 11:23:29 AM CDT

    Angelina Jolie as Regina: Dino Killer

    by trematode

    Why don't they just give in and make a Dino Crisis movie? It's waaaaay darker and more violent and would give the computer generated Dinosaur people they're fix!

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  • Jul 09, 2001 11:44:25 AM CDT

    Crichton / Spielburg and Jurassic Park

    by graphic nature

    First, anyone who has not read the novel "Jurassic Park" by Michael Crichton needs to run to Amazon.com and have a copy overnighted right away. This novel remains my absolutley favorite sci-fi novel ever. Even friends of mine who hate to read found it amazing. --------------- Second, observations about the movie adaptations: although I found that they totally lacked the horror and intelligence of the novel (same can be said of the second novel [Crichton's ONLY sequel to date]), I still found them entertaining. It looks like my 2 favorite scenerios from the book (the aviary and river t-rex attack) have finally made it to the big screen here in the second sequel. And even if it was unintentional, I see a vey obvious allegory between the Dinos/Ingen staff and "great" movies/Hollywood executives. Am I looking too deep? Maybe. But who could resist a 50-foot-tall (*insert your favorite drector here*) biting the heads off of Hollywood suits interfereing with their film (aka "Playing God")?

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  • Jul 09, 2001 11:48:41 AM CDT

    Much as I liked JP2, I have one very, VERY big problem with it:

    by salem hanna

    Why do the raptors always pause to snarl menacingly before moving in for the kill, thus giving Malcolm and co the time to dodge out the way, jump into cars, perform gymnastic routines etc? Let's be honest here, there's at least 3 times where the raptors would have actually killed them rather than just standing around and looking scary. Then again the rest of the film's fun so I can forgive it of a few leaps of logic. As for JP1, I haven't seen it for YEARS, but from what I remember it was good for its time. Probably looks dated now but all sci-fi does eventually.

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  • Jul 10, 2001 6:48:34 AM CDT

    KILLALLGEEKS, Allow Me To Introduce Myself.

    by geekbasher v3.0

    I am GEEKBASHER....pleased to make your aquaintance. I wholeheartedly agree with your post. I have not gone to see a movie since X-MEN. Since Hollywood is intent on putting out garbage, there is no point in spending my money and paying their salaries. We have to send a message and let them know we will no longer put up with their weak attempts at promoting drivel in order to compete with other film companies. Granted some will slip by, but when you have a constant stream of shit coming out of Hollywood, the East Coast can smell the stench. I look forward to our encounters in GEEKDOM on our Crusade to educate and reform.

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  • Jul 10, 2001 1:24:13 PM CDT

    Thanks Judge

    by vinzglortho

    'Bollocks Robin we are fucked... what we going to do Batman... I don't know we will have to wait till next time'
    WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!! I love this dialogue!! Thanks for the laugh Judge! Why don't we have shit like this in the Batman films? Seriously.

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  • Jul 10, 2001 3:21:33 PM CDT

    Sounds like crap to me

    by cooper2000

    I had high hopes for this movie until I read yesterday that they didnt even have a script when shooting started. They threw the first one out and started over the day before shooting. What?????
    So from what William Macy said they were writing as they were filming. BAD Sigh!
    They probably did the Dinosaur poop thing and left it as an open ending so they could do a...Sequel.
    No. NOOOOOOOOO!
    This is like Jaws sequels. Did the whole family of sharks hate the Brody family?
    Doh.

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  • Jul 11, 2001 5:36:01 AM CDT

    The Lost World was dull as hell

    by kaitain

    Jurassic Park worked for me because the "uphill" part of the rollercoaster ride was equally as absorbing (if not more so) than the "downhill" part. Even before the T-Rex attacks, you're entertained and interested. The plot enigma was itself intriguing rather than a mere excuse for action set-pieces. In TLW, the plot enigma was, errr, a mere excuse for action set-pieces. When they came, I didn't much care, because I didn't much care about the characters. Technically proficient, yes, but ultimately soulless and unengaging. I felt that Spielberg had had no real interest in making the film - there were some beautiful individual moments, but the film as a whole was just uninvolving eye candy.

    As an aside, does anyone know how Michael Crichton handled in his book of TLW the fact that he was writing a sequel to the film adapted from his first book, rather than a sequel to his first book per se? (Ian Malcolm and whatsisname the park owner get killed in the book of Jurassic Park.) Did he acknowledge this odd situation explicitly?

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  • Jul 11, 2001 12:48:17 PM CDT

    no subject

    by fangface

    That ending from ScorpionSpawn sounds awsome!
    To bad they didn`t use it in the movie.

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