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Hey folks, Harry here... Now in the last 4 days there have been a TON of rumors about the fourth INDIANA JONES movie... I've heard it will never happen because of the backend deals that Lucas, Spielberg and Ford desire. I've heard it is happening with Ford pulling in between $20 million to $28 million to reprise his role... I've heard that Sean Connery is signed and ready for the next adventure, and I've heard that he isn't going to do it. We've heard that the had the perfect script, that they just had a great treatment, that they have 3 scripts to choose from and that they have no script at all. We've heard it concerns Atlantis, Camelot, Aliens, Lost World and this new one. It all started with the New York Post Page Six story (notably unreliable) and has spread all over the country and the world. So is the following story true.... PROBABLY NOT, but what the hell let's discuss the entire set of theories about what to do with Indy on one last adventure. The rumors are flying, and that's all that they are. But why not have a little fun with them. Remember, Indy has to lose an eye at some point.... for continuity sake... right? Here ya go, remember this is probably not true...

Hello Harry,

Do you remember who I am? If not, I sent you the headway that Camelot has been holding onto an Indy 4 treatment with the working title "Indiana Jones and the Call of Cthulhu." Now the question is do you believe me? I know you're a man with sources, so I'm sure you've been following the news. As I reported to you weeks ago, Kennedy went on record stating that they had no scripts at that time. Which of course, I told you was a red herring... they had the treatment but no script. Now, she went on record again stating that "they already have three scripts which they're interested in potentially developing, but Spielberg and Lucas will have 'writing control'" (Darkhorizons).

Now Harry, I'm giving you the opportunity to score a large scoop here. "Indiana Jones and the Call of Cthulhu" is quite real and is leader of the three potenticals they have in their possession. Its author... who I will not disclose at this time, has been asked to turn it into a screenplay. The only thing holding it back is the rights to Lovecraft's intellectual property... which lawyers are currently working on. It's obvious the pot is boiling.. time is running out. Do you want the scoop or not? If so, I will fill you in on any thing you would like to know: character breakdowns, detailed plot, writer, etc. If you do not, then good luck with your tv show.

- 'Lock and Key'

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  • July 7, 2001, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Damn Im First

    by tenaciousdrocks

    These rumors piss me off and I only hope the people will get together and make this movie..oh and I am first tenaciousdrocks

  • July 7, 2001, 8:38 a.m. CST


    by Karmmott

    I love indy flicks

  • July 7, 2001, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Cool part 2

    by Karmmott

    by indy flicks I mean Indiana Jones flix

  • July 7, 2001, 8:50 a.m. CST


    by DexterFillmore

    I'd like to see the Big 3 involved here give in and give the public what they want. Do they really need all the money? I think not.

  • July 7, 2001, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Wasn't there a rumor a while ago

    by Wee Willie

    That M. Night was going to write an Indy script?

  • July 7, 2001, 8:58 a.m. CST

    True Lovecraftian Horror

    by Jack Parsons

    AP news, 07/07/2001: H.P. Lovecraft, upon internment and resurrection from beyond the grave, was interviewed today about the "Indiana Jones and the Call of Chuthulu" script. Though he reserved judgement on the script itself, he did add: "I must admit that no tentacular horror from the cellar of the collective human conciousness can parallel in insanity and mind-numbing wonderment the sheer idiocy of the notion that a man dead for most of a century can still own intellectual property. I'm DEAD, you numbskulls! What fey twit passed a law that says my feckless descendents must approve of the use of my stories? Let me return to the darkness beyond the stars; at least they contain no lawyers -- a special place is reserved for them."

  • July 7, 2001, 9:02 a.m. CST

    This title will never see the light of day.

    by Batutta

    People had a hard time pronouncing The Shawshank Redemption. I think this report is totally bogus.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST


    by sigma957

    first off my apologies for my last posting, carol oconner was not in the original heat of the night movie....i should have learned by now not to post after a night of drinking with friends. that said.............cthulu is a cool idea, bring lovecraft into it would be interesting, and possible make for a bit darker movie...a touch less camp....could still pull the pg /pg13 rating if done right...look at the shit kids see on tv these anyway, no idea if there is truth to it, but it could be cool, of course atlantis would be cool as well.....just no aliens please

  • July 7, 2001, 9:04 a.m. CST


    by shaithis77

    While I know Harry put this story up for the sake of fun, I just wanted to point out that if the person who sent in this "scoop" wanted people to buy it, he/she/they should have made it just a little less ridiculous sounding. "The only thing holding it back is the rights to Lovecraft's intellectual property... which lawyers are currently working on." This is just plain silly. I mean, the character Cthulu has been used in dozens of B movies, Metallica songs, Ghostbuster cartoons, mailorder statues, ect. If this "property" requires clearance from lawyers (which I highly doubt), I sure it's no harder than rubbing their belly and giving them a cookie.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:06 a.m. CST

    By far the best movie title since " Snatch"

    by BigTuna

    Woowee what's that smell?

  • July 7, 2001, 9:15 a.m. CST

    never mind

    by Exalay

  • July 7, 2001, 9:17 a.m. CST

    This Is Idiotic

    by R_Nathan

    It makes no sense whatsoever that businessmen such as Lucas and Spielberg would go to the trouble of developing a screenplay for the Indiana Jones franchise without first getting at least an option for the necessary underlying rights.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by Cassius the Evil

    Arrgh. I do NOT want my Indy and Lovecraft memories mingled, thank you.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by Whale4ever

    How about Indiana Jones and the Hudsucker Proxy?

  • July 7, 2001, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Want to know what Cthulhu is? Here's what I found...

    by Rustednova

    I had never heard of this before (so, maybe I live under a rock), so I looked it up on the net and here's what I found. According to one source ( in part of a webring, the Cthulhu is: "Cthulhu is a large green being which resembles a human with the head of a squid, huge bat-wings, and long talons (true, that doesn't really resemble a human, but bear with me here). According to H. P. Lovecraft's story "The Call of Cthulhu", Cthulhu rests in a tomb in the city of R'lyeh, which sank beneath the Pacific Ocean aeons ago. Cthulhu is dead but not truly dead, as he and his fellow inhabitants of R'lyeh sleep the aeons away. (Cthulhu is generally thought of as a "he" for some reason.) From time to time R'lyeh comes to the surface, and Cthulhu's dreams influence sensitive individuals across the globe to depict his image, slay, and found cults dedicated to him. In the past, R'lyeh has sunk after a short time, but the day will soon come when it rises to the surface permanently and great Cthulhu strides across a world thrown into chaos and anarchy from his telepathic sendings. As has been stated before, Cthulhu is not the most important or powerful being in the Mythos, but he wins in terms of sheer popularity among his fans. No one is sure why, but that's the way things are." So, maybe there's a bit of truth to the Atlantian agle if this pans out?

  • July 7, 2001, 9:47 a.m. CST

    I.J. and the Goat with A Thousand Young

    by nick furious

    Whaaa? What baloney! Shouldn't Lucasfilm be in talks with Chaosium, the RPG company that actually publishes the game Call of Cthulu? All of a sudden Indy is gonna jump from the Judeo-Christian mythos to the Cthulu mythos? He'll learn that the ark and the grail and those Indian stones are all meaningless before the unutterable horror of the hideous crawling chaos? Maybe he'll team up with Lovecraft himself! Maybe this is some CoC player's prank!

  • July 7, 2001, 9:52 a.m. CST

    indy vs.'s worked so well before....

    by exador

    hahaha..even tho i honestly think the second movie was a bit of a let down, because of the lack of a facist force, i guess it's too much to have indy fighting the nazis one more time...i doooo love the rumors tho...take em with a grain of salt tho i do, you have to love the i think cthullu is a good idea..hmmmm jury is out on that one my doesn't really have the whole 'semi-serious'- archeaology angle to it...cthullu is a fantasy created my a master writer, and was supported by many other writers at the was a work of genius to create that particular mythos, but it's not something to be used for fodder on an indy flick...far more likely is an atlantis idea...even tho that one is a bit far fetched as well, it can and does involve the usual indy plot points...a half forgotten myth, a tenuous basis in fact, and indy can start by talking to his students about atlantis..was plato just fuckin around, or is there some truth to this old horse of a story...then we get some old englishman in to fill the shoes of vote is for John Cleese..bring along indy senior and off we go...another thing i heard is that they are going to have a someone play indy's i've heard that it may be Kevin Costner...which although i think he's a great actor (go see 13 day's) i don't think the role should belong to ...if they are going to have a brother figure...PLEASE let it be Magnum PI himself....christ knows the man deserves's no secret to any of my fellow film geeks that this is the dude that was supposed to be Indy in the 1st give him the brother role...well....what do you folks say? the cthullu story workable?...even tho EVERY one knows it was created by an author?,...i know i know...the same could be said about plato...but atleast his story about atlantis has the benefit of being SERIOUSLY fuckin old and somewhat plausible....and this IS about an archeologis......don't get me wrong...i don't support that story line more than any of the others...i just figure it seems the most do-able.......

  • July 7, 2001, 9:57 a.m. CST


    by MovieGod

    This story is bullshit. Is this supposed to be an X-Files-episode? Indiana going berserk after hearing the Call of Cthulhu? The only thing that this guy has to say is how well informed he is. Do you know why he didn

  • July 7, 2001, 10:02 a.m. CST

    By the way...

    by MovieGod

    ... the Cthulhu mythos wasn

  • July 7, 2001, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Indy vs. Communists

    by Norm3

    Since Indy is older and the story will most likley take place in the 1950's during the Cold War, then he could fight the Commies!

  • July 7, 2001, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Atlantis is just as silly

    by nick furious

    Yeah, this is total foolishness, but how would an Atlantis story work? I imagine some or much of the action would have to take place in Atlantis, yes? Isn't Atlantis deep under the ocean? What 30's era technology is going to get Indy there, much less let him roam around and crack whips? Some magic air bubble would have to form, or it'd have to get raised to the surface, or.... anyone else think anything like this would be goofy?

  • July 7, 2001, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Why does he have to lose an eye?

    by MovieCoolGuy

    I missed that reference.... what's it from?

  • July 7, 2001, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Everybody's Gonna Hate This...

    by CineBunk79

    Why is everyone absolutely set on having Harrison Ford reprise the role? Sean Connery first played Bond in 1962 but the serie is stil going strong? Why? It's the role, not the actor that makes a series. You didn't go see "Harrison Ford and the Temple of Doom." Hell, five people have played Indy ALREADY! Give the role to (anticipation of nation-wide groaning) George Clooney. He's got the right looks, build, charm and sense of humor to pull the role off brilliantly!

  • July 7, 2001, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I WANT INDY 4 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Atlantis2001

    Why did Speilberg have do go and make the huge let-down that was "A.I." instead of Indiana Jones 4, a movie that everyone seems to want to make but no one just plain can? I want to see this happen sooooooooo bad! "Temple of Doom" was on USA last night and reminded me how great that series really is,and also how "A.I." was such a far cry from what Speilberg is really capible of. They MUST make this movie and make it soon! They can't wait 20 years! The clock is ticking!

  • July 7, 2001, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Why/when does Indy lose an eye?

    by Sternwood

    Just that.

  • I'd like to know. When A.I.P. did "Die Monster, Die"("Color Out Of Space") and the "Dunwich Horror", they never paid any rights to the estate. How can you put a copyright on something that was public domain to begin with? That's like trying to copyright Poe's works long after he's dead. Same thing when that hack Fred Olen Ray added on H.P. Lovecraft's name to his flick, "The Tomb". He never paid any royalties. As well as Charlie "Cheapskate" Band when he was going to do "Shadow Over Insmouth." If anyone has more information on this, please enlighten.

  • July 7, 2001, 10:51 a.m. CST

    there's no script yet . <---- period

    by Fatal Discharge

    This project is better left never made. Sure, people have warm fuzzy memories of the original 3 Indy films (even though the third was so forgettable that the only thing that sticks out is Sean Connery as Indy's dad). But look at Never Say Never Again - that was the return of a beloved character (Connery's Bond) after many many years absent and at 53 Connery was just barely able to look competent to make the action look believable at his age. Harrison Ford was 55 when Air Force One came out and I enjoyed that film, but he'll be over 60 when and if Indiana Jones 4 ever gets made which will look a bit embarrasing.

  • July 7, 2001, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Lock and Key, this doesn't speak well of our friendship.

    by Village Idiot

    Dear Lock and Key (the source of the above scoop), Why is it that after all these years of trust and rapport, you find it necessary to insult me this? It is almost as if you're telling me right to my face that you think I'm an idiot. The idea that you're trying to put over on us, that the next Indiana Jones would be based on H.P. Lovecraft material, is ludicrous, sure; and perhaps I can forgive that. But the real problem is that it's not even clever. What have I done to warrant such disrespect? Did I somehow offend you without my knowing? Or is this an honest reflection fo how stupid you feel I really am? Regardless, I'm hurt. If your goal was to hurt my feelings, congratulations, you hit your mark. I'm going to go stand by the window and think about things now. Don't try to apologize, I'm afraid it may already be too late.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:02 a.m. CST

    My Indy IV

    by screenwriter2001

    Ah, what the hell. I wrote an Indy script a few years back. Futile exercise, although I did get it into the hands of one of the producers of "Raiders". For whatever reason I've posted some excerpts (entitled "Shadows of the Lost Temple") at

  • July 7, 2001, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Indy vrs Cthulhu? No Way!!!

    by Elliot_Kane

    Action adventure meets dark horror? Not very credible. They'd have no choice but to utterly ruin one or the other. Yeah, thrills and spills, but half the cast would have to die horribly or - preferably - go totally insane. I just don't see it.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:15 a.m. CST

    by ConcreteKiller

  • July 7, 2001, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the daft theories from mars

    by ConcreteKiller

    Come on boys and girls, Indiana Jones vs Lovecraft? It's bleedin ludicrous. Lets be honest, the most natural (and probable) scenario for Indy 4 involves an aging Indiana Jones, his spritely son Illinois (or Idaho), the return of Marion Ravenwood, no Henry Jones Snr and some big excuse for two hours of swashbuckling such as the Hunt for Atlantis, the Search for the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Fountain of Youth, the Throne of God, the Slingbacks of Satan, the starting line up of the 1986 Denver Broncos, and the Balls of Jesus...Whatever it is, this film will rock and will make badly written, CGI laden shite like Mummy Returns and Tomb Raider look like the poor rip-offs they are! time for love Dr Jones......

  • July 7, 2001, 11:27 a.m. CST

    The only way this will work

    by Redwood

    The only way this will work is if the script has both Nazis and a Judeo-Christian related relic. Temple of Doom had neither of these, and it was not as good as Raiders or Last Crusade.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:28 a.m. CST

    to nick furious

    by MovieGod

    For the Atlantis story: Check out the Lucas Arts PC Adventure-game Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Really funny. Gave him a cute redhead as a sidekick.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Indy script

    by shaithis77

    Hey screenwriter2001: I read what you had writen for the Indy script. The problem with it (and what I fear will be the problem with most screenplays for Indy) is that it refers too much to the previous films. If you go back and watch the films, they exsist on their own. None of them requires that you watch the other to understand whats going on. The only film-2-film referance is in "Last Crusade", When Indy and the hot broad see the picture of the ark on the wall. If you've seen the first movie, you get a good chuckle, but if you've haven't, it's no big deal. It's such a small part that it could have been cut out with no loss to the story. Also, the wharehouse with all the crates is such a great ending, and leaves your imagination swirling, why would you want to see what's in there? Nothing would be able to live up to your imagination's expectation. Anyway's, I don't mean to rip you apart, but I just wanted to point out what hinders most stories of this nature. It's also the same reason I don't read "Star Wars" novels anymore. All the stories rely on really bad referances to the 1st three films. Go in a differant direction, please, sombody!!!

  • July 7, 2001, 11:53 a.m. CST

    I don't think they'll bother

    by Drath

    What is this, the two thousand and first rumor for Indiana Jones 4? Why do we do this to ourselves every other month? I mean this year alone has seen more rumors than Jabba the Hutt has stretch marks! And so far I haven't heard any rumors that sound even remotely like they belong in the world of Indiana Jones. Aliens? Cthulhu? What the hell do these have to do with archeology? There was some statue in Lovecraft's story about Cthulhu, but it's not an infamous object. The Ark of the Covenant, the Shankara Stones, the Holy Grail, THOSE are objects of legend! Maybe if someone comes up with a script where Indy goes after Excalibur then I might give a shit, but Roswell aliens? Let me know when he finds Max Evans's Granolith. Atlantis is still the best rumored story, but that one's been around so long that DISNEY made it first! Also, I doubt very much the movie will please the fans. Why does no one ask, "what's this one about?" All of the other films were about more than just Indy going after a single prize. Dr. Jones learned and grew in each installment. I still think the logical plot would involve Indiana Jones discovering he'd had a son with Marion Ravenwood, a son who will be as good a foil for him as Marion, Willie, and Dad all were in previous outings. Since Ford will be older than Connery was in Last Crusade, making him a dad is the best route, I think. Also, I fear the film will be a disappointment for people like Harry and Moriarty. I don't mean the way AI was. That film has people reacting in extremely different ways--and that's good if you want to get people thinking and talking. But Indiana Jones is supposed to be straight forward adventure that EVERYONE can enjoy, and that is actually a lot harder these days because of the evil beast called "Hightened Expectations." I love Spielberg, I love Indiana Jones, and I love the forces that brought him to life. But none of them have made a movie like the first two Indy films in years, and I don't think they can do it again even if they wanted. I challenge them to prove me wrong, but I've watched almost every franchise I ever loved(TV or Movie) offer up dipshit installments in recent years. I'm loath to see it happen to Indiana Jones.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Take THAT, Sulu!

    by Gordon Shumway

    Indy vs. Sulu? Is he going to ride a horse around the Excelssior? Klingons... I hate these guys.

  • July 7, 2001, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Indy 4, Harrison Ford, Steven Spielber and George Lucas. And do

    by Electric_Monk

    Rumors of Indy 4 go back to as early as 1989, when Crusade came out. And for 12 years, the fans are wondering what is going on. First, to do Indy 4, it would cost Paramount well over $150 million to make, plus add on another $50 to $100 million in advertising and you got an expensive sequel. And as seqiel's go, one that will make less than the last one -plus add on the back end take by Lucas, Spielberg and Ford and Paramount see's no money from their investiment. Its a huge gamble and I can see why Paramount is skittish on the idea. Could Lucas fund the movie himself? Doubtfull, as all the money he makes goes back into his various companies, and until he's finished with the prequel movies, I cannot see him giving any money. As for Steven, well he could afford to make the film, but he'll want a huge pay check as well. And its reported that Ford could take up to $25 million up front. Historically, as noted abouve, sequels tend to make less money, and until they have a story, If I was Paramount I would be very careful about how I'ld spend the money. Do we need an Indy 4? Maybe, but how much would it be just for nostalgic sake or is it just to further franchise that does not need to be furthered? Why not have Ford in Indy 4 and introduce a son -who then couls start a new era? Or what has been noted above, why not simply recast the role -just like James Bond? If Indy 4 goes before the camera's, it could not be much before 2005. Lucas will have finished the Star Wars prequels, and Spielberg will have finshed his other, much delayed projects like Memoirs of a Geisha and Lindburgh. Ford will be in his mid 60's and it would be a perfect time to jump ahead to the 1950's and introduce the next Indiana Jones: Josh Harnett.

  • July 7, 2001, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Lost Eyeball

    by RenoNevada2000

    Harry is referncing the Young INdy Chronicles, when he mentioned that somewhere along the line Indy has to loose an eye. The wraparound segments for the show featured a modern day Indy telling his exploits to whomever he had cornered at the time. Modern Indy had an eye patch, so we can presume that he lost his eye on an adventure. (I really don't want to believe that he lsot it in some damn fool accident with a screwdriver or something). If you pick up the YIJ videos, you won't get to see the wrap around segments (W/ George Hall as Old Indy) as Lucasfilm has edited the episodes together to make them appear as movies. Hopefully on the eventual DVD release, they wrap around segments will be restored or included as supplimentals. (Are your listening Lucasfilm?)

  • July 7, 2001, 1 p.m. CST

    Re: Indy Script

    by screenwriter2001

    shaithis77, point taken. However, my script doesn't *require* that one know the previous films. The story does stand on its own. I took great pains to ensure that it does. But if you've seen Raiders (and, really, who hasn't) then the mythology would serve to enhance the experience, I think, not detract from it. If you're averse to the inclusion of such franchise references -- and I certainly don't doubt you're alone on this -- then you'd certainly find my story... lacking, I guess. But I'd wager that you're in the minority here. It certainly isn't necessary that one see A New Hope in order to enjoy The Empire Strikes Back, but it's definitely a better experience if you have. Same with Return of the Jedi. And Star Trek (the television series). Granted, these films were intended to be intertwined, in terms of recurring characters and an ongoing mythology, while the Indy films are generally exclusive from one another. But I don't see why, exactly, this would be a bad thing if they went the other way. And again, I stress "referencing" the previous films here, not "requiring" that they be known. Re: the warehouse -- I agree it was a great ending -- one of the best IMHO -- but I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "why would we want to see what's in there?" Do you mean what's in the warehouse, or what's in the crate? The Ark is in the crate, of course, but I don't show that. If you mean the warehouse, then I suppose that's understandable. It could be considered blasphemous to tamper with such an indelible scene. At any rate, my Indy script isn't a complete waste: I rewrote it with a new heroine and extracted the Indy-specific elements, so it's now a stand-alone script.

  • July 7, 2001, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Why would the producers be considering a story about Camelot?

    by Hardyboy

    "IJ and the Last Crusade" was about the search for the Holy Grail, so I think they've already mined the Camelot territory. Hell, there are some good myths and legends out there that could serve as the basis for a good Indy flick--such as the lost treasure of the Incas--but, frankly, I doubt that there will ever be a new installment of this franchise. By the time Spielberg, Lucas, and Ford get on the same page Indy will have to be shown fighting the Viet Cong in 1969!

  • July 7, 2001, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Since a majority of you talk backers are SO informed...

    by Enemy Mime

    then there wouldn't be any need to remind you that a production company already owns the rights to make the 'Call of Cthulhu' movie that has been in development hell, and the lawyers mentioned above would have to aquire the rights from THEM. But you already knew that, I'm sure.

  • July 7, 2001, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and The Jar of Apple Sauce...

    by kittyboot

    Where Harrison Ford and Sean Connery struggle to overcome debilitating arthritis and unscrew the lid on a jar of Mott's. (Footnote: Conan O'Brien)

  • July 7, 2001, 1:30 p.m. CST

    How the hell did you do that??

    by Huneybee

    You absolutely and completely read my mind, Brunt. Or maybe I read yours as you posted first...oh, whatever! As I read your post I paused to consider which young actor would do well in the role of Indy's son. The only one I could think of was Josh Hartnett and finished reading your post to find his name there. Of course, there is always the chance that you were being sarcastic and are currently commenting on how incredibly dense I am to not get the joke, but I do think that a younger version of IJ would be the only acceptable way of continuing the story. I know the majority of fanboys here despise Hartnett (Maybe because he's so much prettier than them?) but I like his work and feel he would make an excellent Indy, Jr.

  • July 7, 2001, 1:32 p.m. CST


    by shaithis77

    Glad to hear you turned the script into a stand alone. That's what I'd like to see. More stand alone, non-sequel, non-remake films. Don't get me wrong, I'm dying to see Episode II, as well as hope that they do make a good Indy 4. BUT, I'd rather see something brand new and fresh. Oh sure, popcorn movies are fun, but this year the most thought provoking, exiting movies I've seen have been in arthouse theaters with only, like, 10 people(who are always senior citizens for some reason). But don't mistake me for some arty snob. I see it all. From the biggest to the smallest ........ but in regards to the wharehouse in "Raiders", what I meant was what the rest of the crates contained. My imagination could probably find something to fit in every one of those boxes, but if you were to see my vision on screen, I'd bet my life that most would be let down. Not matter what, if you open another one of those boxes, it's not going to be what we wanted...

  • July 7, 2001, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Lost City of Gold

    by smokinyoda

    Everybody remember this myth? There was a badass cartoon years and years ago that followed this idea. I know everybody has their ideas on what it should be, but how sweet would it be to see "fortune and glory" return to the Indiana series. Or he could find the fountain of youth and morph into Sean Patrick Flannery and start a whole new set of adventures.

  • July 7, 2001, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Why hasn't anyone mentioned Noah's Ark?

    by Toe Jam

    Even since I was a little kid, I've thought this would be the perfect set-up for a fourth Indy film. Just think about it: Not only could Indy battle the Nazis, he would also have tenacious Turks to deal with (the Turks are notorious for not allowing foreigners to search Mt. Ararat, where many believe the Ark rests). Just imagine: A bunch of Nazis and machine gun-wielding Turks chasing Indy through the endless chambers of the ancient Ark, thousands of feet up in the mountains. I'm telling you, this would make a great Indy film. It has everything we've come to love about the series.

  • Shit, that WAS a kickass cartoon. Remember that awesome gold flying condor airship they had? Hot damn, that was some cool shit. Why don't they make cartoons like that anymore? Goddamnit, I want some historical myth in my cartoons!

  • July 7, 2001, 2:21 p.m. CST


    by SaigonWhore

    This is obviously some guy trying to capitalize on rumors and have some fun with aicn. Me love you long time.

  • July 7, 2001, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Giant Testicle

    by Jackass

    Oh yeah, that already happened at the beginning of Raiders. Damnit!!

  • July 7, 2001, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Do You Idiots Have Any Idea How Dangerous It Is To Misspell CTHU

    by Buzz Maverik

    This is just great. You say there's a slimey, green, squid faced giant motherfucker threatening reality and now you want to borrow my copy of the Necrnomicon? You're just like those fucking liberals who suddenly wanted to be pals and borrow my guns during the L.A. riots! Save yourselves this time, buckos. I'm not even loaning my urine out for subjugation!

  • July 7, 2001, 2:36 p.m. CST

    "We named the DOG Cthulhu."

    by user id indeed!

    Hell, if yer gonna have Indy fight a huge tentacled demon, why not just save all the trouble of Harrison's age and getting Spielberg to direct and just make it anime? INDY ANIME!!! INDY ANIME!!! INDY ANIME!!! WAAAAAAAAAH!!! (head explodes)This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! But in Latin... Indeed starts with an I! Wait... okay. Nevermind.

  • July 7, 2001, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Budget of a Sequel

    by Regis Travolta

    Harrison deserves 40 million for this and Steven will get 20 million and George gets 20 million so with a below the line budget of 120 million we're looking at 200 million total. But I think it's a worthwile investment, the movie will earn at least 600 million worldwide so come on Paramount use some of Sumner Redstone's Viacom billions and let's get on with it already before Indy is wandering around in Depends diapers for god's sake!

  • Must get a Life!

  • July 7, 2001, 5:41 p.m. CST

    re: Noah's Ark plot

    by Huneybee

    Just because the ark is in the Bible does not mean Indy should go searching for it. The scenario was interesting (Turk's/ark/mountains/chase)but why would the ark be valuable, other than the obvious historical significance? There would have to be a reason, a power, or something inside which would make it neccessary for Indy to "save".

  • But seriously folks, I ain't gonna hold my breath for a fourth and neither do I wanna see a fourth installment. Mr. Ford is what, almost 60 now. Mr. Lucas and Mr. Spielberg are approaching mid-fifties. What I'm getting at: they're too old to bring back the magic that made Raiders one of the best action adventures of the 80's - if not in the last 20-years. For god's sake, movies are STILL copying action set pieces from Raiders. While I do believe age ain't got nothing to do with creative ability (I'm an artist myself), I do believe that Spielberg and Lucas has let their age and power in H-Town get in the way of their creative abilities. As for Harrison Ford, while in the early 80's I salivated over his mature maniliness (hubba hubba), over the last couple of years his age has really started to show. And not in too positve of a light. So, please no fourth. I can still live on without one and I can survive just fine with the three that we have.

  • July 7, 2001, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Better Lies...

    by ArchDiver

    I read an alleged Indy 4 script last year that sounded a hell of a lot better than this crap! It was set in post-WWII, Henry Sr was dead, and Indy had a son he didn't know about whose mother was an alcoholic Marion. The bad guys were the Soviets and the relic in question was Noah's Ark. Unfortunately, this 'script' had the ark on a mountain top encased in ice. The treatment I would offer? Select an approprite relic that was pilfered by the Romans and lost at sea. Set DURING WWII, Indy teams up with a young Jacques Cousteau to use a new-fangled breathing apparatus to search for it underwater before the Nazis get to it. I'm sure he can keep the hat on, but I don't think he'll be able to crack the whip underwater....

  • July 7, 2001, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones And Pimpernel Smith

    by R_Nathan

    I know this will never be made, because Ford's too old to do another World War II era film and Leslie Howard is dead, but I'd love to see a film in which Indiana Jones meets up with another archiologist who battled Nazis - Professor Smith from the film Pimpernel Smith.

  • July 7, 2001, 6:08 p.m. CST

    I couldn't bear it!

    by zenda

    As much as I'd love to see Harrison Ford as Indy again, it just wouldn't be the same without good ol' Denholm Elliott. So why bother? But a younger, pre-Raiders Indy sounds good, and Josh Hartnett would indeed be a good choice for it. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

  • July 7, 2001, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Boys from Brazil

    by DrX

    go figure

  • July 7, 2001, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Lucas, Speilberg et al's"Back end deals"

    by SethShandor

    What exactly does that entail? Like, anything in addtion to the theatrical release profit? Even if so, and even at 150 million, the DVD, VHS sales, Re-issues of the others films in DVD and VHS, cable rights, network rights, advertising tie in's, video games, etc etc etc would make this film profitable for all involved even if it sucked.

  • July 7, 2001, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the REALLY bad sequel

    by Caine

    Give it up boys and girls, Harry Ford is just too damn old. he is pushing 60 now and is starting to really show it. Granted, he is still a good actor (not the second coming as some people like to see him) but there has been talk of an Indy 4 for more than 10 years. He is just too old at this point to pull it off, unless the story is set in the post-war 1940's or 1950's. He could be down in South America fighting with thte remnants of the Nazi 'empire' that took many of their treasures and relics with them. Since Hitler's thug-boys were in a great land/money/gold/'gee that looks shiny' spree all over Europe and the rest of the globe, it would not be too much of a stretch to say that they have things in their possession down in Argentina that they do not understand. They grab Indy Jones, who has been living quietly as Professor Emeritus from whichever university he was teching at, to explain to them just WHAT they have. Or he goes on a quest DEEEP behind the Iron Curtain for some lost Christian relics of the Orthodox Russian Church. Either of those two concepts are better than the fodder that spawned this talkback. The Call of the Lovecraftian Gods, you have GOT to be kidding. How many times has Harry Ford said that he doesn't even know where his Fedora is, but that he would jump at the chance to make Indy 4 with the right Script? As for making a prequel, they already did that with IJTD, remember? That was the one with Mrs Spielberg version 2.0. As for making someone else a young Indian Jones - that was ALSO already done. And it was a bad series... The Episode in Chicago, where he met young Al Capone, college-boy Elliot Ness, learned to play Jazz saxaphone, and the 'Not Quite Human' kid as Hemingway or some other expatriate writer... Phenominally BAD episodes like that with the blatant name-dropping tell you where Spielberg got Forrest Gump from. They are also why I Never watched another episode. Josh Hartnett as Young Indy, why? Because he was the sympathy/it-boy of the bloated disrespectful mess that is Pearl Harbor??? Please. Just let it end. There are after-market books, there are videogames, there is fan-fiction on the net. Leave Indy IV to that, and let this franchise die with some dignity please.

  • July 7, 2001, 7:33 p.m. CST

    It will happen

    by otcconan

    When Mel Gibson straps back into the in,,,never.

  • July 7, 2001, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I remember the Rob MacGregor Indy novels from the early 90's!

    by SethShandor

    They were pretty good indeed. I liked the Max McCoy ones as well. Avoid the Martin Caidin ones though... (I also think I read somewhere there are some German novels that have never been printed in English but are pretty good. )

  • July 7, 2001, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Raiders of The Lost Virginity.

    by Buzz Maverik

    Jason Biggs would play Indy Jr., and Harrison would catch him screwing the Ark.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Sorry About Misspelling "Necronomicon" and Thanks To Soylent Gre

    by Buzz Maverik

    I hope they don't make me pick up litter along the Interstate again. I fucking hate picking up litter along the Interstate.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Raiders Of The People's Temple.

    by Buzz Maverik

    Will Indy be too late to stop his son Jim (Andy Richter) from distributing poison Kool Aid to hundreds of his Cult O' The Damned followers in Guyana? Yep.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Noah's Ark - eh...

    by Merkin Muffley

    I also read the noah's ark draft when it was at script-o-rama. It didn't do much for me,although I loved Marion being an alcoholic and the dream sequence with the cupcake coming out of Connery's mouth.

  • July 7, 2001, 9:51 p.m. CST

    "Butch And Sundance Meet Frankenstein"

    by Uncapie

    Our heroes did not die at the end of the film! Badly shot up, they stole a Bolivian army experimental balloon and drifted across the Pacific, landing in the Phillipines where Dr. Frankenstein and Igor, hiding out and continuing their experiments for the good of mankind without that bumbling Dr. Pretorius to interfer , patch Butch and Sundance back together as they continue their bank robbing exploits in Australia to finance the good doctors work. Butch: Bob Z'Dar, Sundance Kid: Michael Berryman, Dr. Frankenstein: John Carradine(Stock footage), Igor: Gary Coleman, Bride Of Frankenstein: Brooke Shields and John Vernon as "The Mayor."

  • July 7, 2001, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Noah's Ark - eh...

    by Merkin Muffley

    I also read the noah's ark draft when it was at script-o-rama. It didn't do much for me,although I loved Marion being an alcoholic and the dream sequence with the cupcake coming out of Connery's mouth.

  • July 7, 2001, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Verne Troyer to replace Harrison Ford as Mini-Indy Jones in "Min

    by Troublemaker2000

    Paramount Pictures takes great pleasure in announcing that due to budget cuts across the board, lovable and hilarious Verne Troyer will be playing Mini-Indy Jones in Steven Spielberg and George Lucas's 4th adventure of the thrilling franchise, "Mini-Indy Jones and the Curse of the Harlem Globetrotters", coming to a theater near you for Christmas 2002! Special guest star: Seth Green as Mini-Indy's arch foe Dr. Circumciser!

  • July 7, 2001, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Indy 4...and Atlantis...

    by Threelegsstrong

    Well, a few years back, when I was an avid comic collector (well, not "avid") I got a four part Indiana Jones series from Dark Horse called "Indiana Jones and The Fate Of Atlantis." It was actually pretty cool. Maybe they oughtta use that as the basis for the next movie.

  • July 8, 2001, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I've been misspelling C'thulhu for years

    by Cthulu

    Mythos mixology isn't always a bad thing esp in an action-adventure. Religions are but different interpretations of one God. But it seems like the two good Indy movies are the ones where he had to go after relics spoken of in Judeo-Christian lore. Noah's Ark was a good suggestion (and begs the joke title "Raiders of the OTHER Lost Ark"). I dunno what else- the Tower of Babel? Lucifer's Lantern? The stone David used to fell Goliath? The twelve gold coins Judas took for turning Jesus in to the authorities? As someone above pointed out these relics would have to have some modern-day use that, if uncovered by the wrong hands, would preclude an apocolyptic cataclysm. C'thulhu's good for that. But the whole Lovecraft Necronomicon thing feels a little too esoteric and "inside" for Indy fans. We like BIG GAME. Like somebody else said C'thulhu is something that should be reserved for an XFILES episode. I say if you're going outside the Bible, go Greek. Have Indy look for the Golden Fleece, Pandora's Box (which was closed before MORE diseases could come out???) or the Sword of Damacles. Or else take the historical route. Go after the cursed Hope Diamond, Galileo's maps of the cosmos... Or how about this? The unseen literary works of Aristotle, Plato and Socrates (and countless others) that would have perished when the Alexandrian Library was set ablaze by religious zealots- had some smart librarians not hidden them in the maze of catacombs beneath Alexandria. They might contain some forbidden knowledge that could preclude or prevent an apocalyptic cataclysm. By the way I wholeheartedly buy that the estate of HP Lovecraft would hold out for a good price on that intellectual property. This movie will make ALOT of money if it's ever made. If it is they should keep Ford and just make Indy middle-aged, circa 1955 or something. I really don't think we have another actor who could capture Indy (not even the new Jack Ryan, Ben Affleck. God, not him!). Oh well there's my two bits. I'll go back to my prison where I await certain damnation- C'thulu (not C'thulhu).

  • July 8, 2001, 12:52 a.m. CST

    $Indy $4 $Opening

    by Frankly75

    After some explosions, falling rocks, Indy and And his dad come running out of a temple as it collapses behind them.... EXT TEMPLE, DAY. (indy and his dad stand, both clearly exhausted) Indy:(out of breath) You Know what dad...Your'e gettin to old for this. Indy Snr: (Walking out of shot) I was to old for this years ago, But its still fun.

  • July 8, 2001, 1:07 a.m. CST

    For God's sake, stop it already!

    by Longfellow

    Isn't it obvious they're just going to fuck the whole thing up, ruining the original films for us all? This sounds like utter bollocks. If it isn't bollocks, I think my point is proven just with that God-awful title and the merest mention of the overrated hack Lovecraft. It sounds like that MacGuyver TV movie where he goes to Atlantis and shit, only with some demon motherfucker thrown in for good measure, in a post-Mummy nod to Brendan Fraser. Basing an Indy flick on MacGuyver and The Mummy? Even Spielberg and Lucas haven't lost it that much yet, surely?

  • July 8, 2001, 1:10 a.m. CST


    by Gabba-UK

    'nough said.

  • July 8, 2001, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Saucer men from Mars

    by Archie

    There were rumours about this title on this site some while ago, and I have to say that they sounded fun, with Area 51, saucers and martians or somesuch, nice period setting and you could bring in escaped Nazis too with the 1947 setting. I would certainly pay to see a film with that title, probably more than once.

  • Gee whiz kids, am I first??? Sorry, couldn't resist. Josh Hartnett, yes, that's what I said earlier. Thatz my story an' ahm stickin' to it. If this travesty must be made, and I seriously doubt it ever will be, then I truly feel that "assface" (remember that inane asinine review?) would be a good candidate for Indy Jr. Is it because he "was the sympathy/it-boy of the bloated disrespectful mess that is Pearl Harbor???"? No, it's not. It's because he is a fine actor in all the movie roles in which I have seen him. I may not have seen everything he has done and I do plan to avoid some of them on general principle, i.e. Blow Dry, Town & Country. I have seen him in several other roles. I especially enjoyed him in The Faculty and Pearl Harbor simply because, to me, he made his part believable. I feel that he would be able to convey the innocence/cynisism and humorousness/intensity that is such a part of Indy and would surely be an integral part of his son. While I sincerely hope that Indiana Jones 4 will never reach the production stage, if it must, I hope it will NOT contain a decrepit Harrison Ford attempting to pull off a role better left to someone younger and more capable of playing an action-adventure part.

  • July 8, 2001, 2:55 a.m. CST

    Harrison Ford was at Lucasfilms studios last week!

    by Books4Funn

    All this talk could possibly be leading up to something

  • July 8, 2001, 3 a.m. CST

    Insert "position" in my subject line, sorry

    by Huneybee

    But wait!! Bruce Campbell would surely be perfect in this role...

  • July 8, 2001, 3:27 a.m. CST


    by astrodog

    Well, an indy/cthulhu movie is not a bad idea, the concept is rather bold, but i'm afraid the cthulhu mythos will be use like derleth wanted it to be used : trying to put rational and christian views on lovecraft utterly confusing visions is a major blow, and i do think this project, if it's real, which i honestly doubt, is going to fail on all aspects. I mean, could you just imagine indy watching cthulhu rise from R'lyeh saying "now, i hate green stinking gods". maybe execs just try to melt lovecraft with the pulp gun-ho feeling of the Cthulhu RPG (a most excellent game, if you stay true to H.P). could you just imagine that ?Kathleen Kennedy will take the dice to make her mental stability throw over the first BO results of the movie.

  • July 8, 2001, 5:29 a.m. CST


    by Electric_Monk

    To be honest, I only said Josh Hartnett because he's the latest flavor of the month. But, also, he's my latest obsession. He's handsome, in that boy next door kind of way. And God knows, I love that look. But, alas, since I'm tired of being called names for liking younger guys, I'll just add that Hartnett is'nt the worse choice. That would go to any actor in American Pie (except VChris Klien).

  • July 8, 2001, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones & The Spear Of Destiny.

    by Elliot_Kane

    The Spear Of Destiny is said to have the magical power of making the armies of whoever wields it invincible in battle. It is a genuine Judeo-Christian relic, and one Hitler was reputed to be searching for in reality. I think finding it first would make a heck of a quest for Indy. Chances are Stalin's lot would want it too, and 'allies' or not the Russians would be under orders to kill anyone who stands in their way.

  • July 8, 2001, 5:53 a.m. CST

    the title sounds fake..

    by MlKE23

    because 'call of the kutulu'(diff spelling) is a metallica song:o) hehe

  • July 8, 2001, 5:59 a.m. CST

    The new Mrs. Robinson...

    by Huneybee

    Yes, he, uh, makes me less than arid, but I DO honestly believe that Josh Hartnett is also a good actor. I am not old enough to be his mother but I am old enough to know better and I feel he deserves more respect that he has received on this site. He may be considered the flavor of the month, but, if you think about it, he isn't. He has been around for several years and has played a much wider range of roles, creditably, than most other actors of his age. ?James van der whatever and Freddie "I love SMG therefore I am". You should not let the fanboys (and I emphasize BOYS) make your decisions for you. Here is an open question for all of you out there with an opinion(but I know that no one out there has one...) which young actor would you chose for Indiana's son? And why?

  • July 8, 2001, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Indy's Son...

    by Elliot_Kane

    would have to be a young(ish) all-american guy who makes a plausible action hero for Indy The Next Gen. With all that in mind, my vote goes to Casper Van Dien.

  • July 8, 2001, 7:41 a.m. CST

    That title . . .

    by mascan

    "The Call of Cthulhu"? Are you kidding? Does Metallica get royalites for that title?

  • July 8, 2001, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Let's Seriously Consider Recasting Indiana Jones

    by spider15

    Before any of you purists start crying "Only Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones, dammit," let's just remember that River Pheonix played the younger Indy in "Last Crusade." On top of that, three other actors played Indy at different ages in "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" TV show (and believe me, I'd never be bringing up that crappy PC kiddie show unless I was making a point). Bottom line: four other actors have already played the part (not counting stuntmen). So much for "only Harrison Ford." Sean Connery may remain the best James Bond, but he is not the only good one; all of the actors who played the part since (okay, maybe not George Lazenby) brought someone new to the part. Doing everything which the character is known for will indeed require a fairly young Indiana Jones. Someone in a previous talkback suggested Ed Burns. He might be good in the part.

  • July 8, 2001, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Well if you can suggest Josh...

    by Darth Gravy

    ...then I can make my own suggestion for the next actor to take up the fedora and bullwhip: David Duchovny And if he can't do it, see what Corey Hart's up to, because that poor bastard could double for DD. Wear my sunglasses at night, indeed.

  • July 8, 2001, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Athletic Supporter of the Gods

    by Darth Gravy

    Cthulhu isn't a good fit for Indiana Jones, and vice versa. Both are great mythos, but it's like putting a fish in a blender. Sure it looks frothy and colorful but it doesn't mean one should drink it.

  • July 8, 2001, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Local Shop

    by Darth Gravy

    Here's one to try on for size: Indy travels to Royston Vasey to retrieve the precious things hidden in the Temple of Edward & Tubbs. Watch out for Dr. Chinnery's Scalpel of Doom!

  • July 8, 2001, 9:37 a.m. CST

    "Spear of Destiny" a GREAT idea...if they stay in the Nazi era.

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    ....and Hitler wasn't LOOKING for the spear, he had possession of it from March 1938 until sometime in early 1945. There is much testimony regarding how Hitler, Himmler, etc. took the spear from a museum in Vienna the same day of the anschluss. When Patton's army went past Nuremburg Patton was rumoured to have inquired after and/or viewed the spear before continuing onward. Anyone know where it is now??!?!?!

  • July 8, 2001, 10:33 a.m. CST

    leave it alone

    by jeff bailey

    Everyone loves these movies. In fact I just saw a Raiders revival and it was the best movie all summer! They are without a doubt (especially Raiders) one of the most wonderful, special milestones in cinema history. Look at how two of this summer's big movies have tried to recapture that magic. No one can. Kids, that's what makes the Indy movies so special is that there will never be other ones. Everything that made the originals so great will be lost putting it in another time period. It would have to be the greatest movie ever to live up to what it needs to be. Spielberg needs to remember Goldblum's sentiments in Jurassic Park: you are so busy trying to figure out if you can, you don't stop and think if you should. Nobody is gonna make Casablanca 2: Nazi Gold or A Fistful of More Dollars. Why would you? Think back to a few short summers ago. Yes, Lethal Weapon 4 was mindless fun but it was pathetic. Anything wonderful from the original 2 movies was GONE. Let it go. I'm sorry the 80's are over and you had to grow up and get real jobs. It's not like Star Wars where you can get new actors and do a prequel. That was cool and made sense. This doesn't. And no one, NO ONE can fill Ford's shoes. You can't go home again. Life's a bitch. That's why we go to the movies!

  • July 8, 2001, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Why Noah's Ark?

    by mondoz2

    Why would Indy go after a relic that didn't do anything? The whole point of his adventures and battles was to keep something powerful away from the bad guys. Unless it melts people, it wouldn't be right.

  • July 8, 2001, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones Goes to Harlem and performs saxophone in a jazz bi

    by Regis Travolta

    Cotton Comes to Harlem and they team up to fight Commie Pinkos at New York's Columbia University. Indy and Cotton testify before Joe McCarthy's Senate Committe investigating Commies on our university campuses and it turns out Marcus Brody was a no good pinko. Eisenhower summons Indy to the White House and sends him on a mission to Hollywood to flush out all the damn pinkos making movies and Vice President Dick Nixon tags along for fun! Once in Tinseltown Indy is discovered by a talent scout for Paramount Pictures and lands a bit part in a western directed by John Ford. From there hijinks ensue as our hero becomes a big movie star. Meanwhile Nixon falls head over heels in love with a studio starlet played by Karen Allen. Then Willie Scott shows up to sing in Ciro's nightclub up on the Sunset Strip and Indy gets to woo her all over again. The big action climax takes place on Alcatraz Island as Al Capone attempts to break out for San Francisco and there's a high speed boat chase through the harbor with Indy in Howard Hughes's motorboat with Hughes at the wheel. Nixon shows up in a gyro-copter stolen from the Rocketeer. The End.

  • July 8, 2001, 11:22 a.m. CST

    The Hunt for Indiana Jones (another fucking idea)

    by SpacePhil

    All right, friends, here's an idea for you -- Assume Indiana Jones is still alive today. What kind of place does he have in the modern world ? Answer: He doesn't. That's one problem that Tomb Raider ran into -- in this day and age, there are no unexplored territories, no parts of Africa or Asia or America left untouched -- in other words, no real adventures to be had. What kind of movie could we based around this ? Simple -- Indy was the last man to take the water of the Holy Grail. As a result, ladies and gents, he's immortal -- and disapeared sometime in the 1960's. Now, a major corporation is looking for him, in the hope of using Indy to discover how to replicate the Grail's effects. It'd be a way to comment on the modern world -- and perhaps a fitting commentary to end the Indiana Jones series.

  • July 8, 2001, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Why Noah's Ark

    by ArchDiver

    To find the two dodo birds that refused to get off the boat when it came to rest on the mountain. THe yolk from their eggs is reputed to restore hair folicles and increase virilty

  • July 8, 2001, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Thanks Carmilla...

    by Elliot_Kane

    I think the Spear Of Destiny is about the only serious mystical item from Judeo-Christian legend that Indy hasn't got yet. And isn't there some doubt about whether the Spear in Nuremberg was/is the real one?

  • July 8, 2001, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Indy say hello to Jar Jar Stinks. Jar Jar say hello to Indiana J

    by Regis Travolta

    Me your new best pal Indy, we go on great adventures! Be careful what you make fun of guys, we may get it! Now here's how it can work: Jar Jar stows away on a space shit that goes through a time warp and lands on earth right in Indy's back yard! Indy is awakened at 3:30 in the morning and immediately realizes that Jar Jar will make the perfect companion for one last epic adventure. Hilarity ensues when the two of them get in one cliffhanger after the next! Their objective this time is to make sure George Lucas never achieves artistic or financial success so they sabotage his night shoot of American Graffiti, the movie goes over budget and Universal pulls the plug and Lucas winds up working in a Fotomat in Fresno dreaming about all the great movies he'll never get to make. Now that's entertainment!

  • July 8, 2001, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and a Metallica song? COOL!

    by MrCere

    Who was the brain who decided Jones needed to explore the scary world of a Metallica song. That is ballsy and cool and I hope those bad-ass sellouts do the soundtrack too. I am so excited I just sinned in my pants!

  • July 8, 2001, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and The Empire Strikes Back: re:honeybee & Elliot_

    by Electric_Monk

    No matter how long Hartnett has been around, since Pearl Harbor he is the media darling -snagging that Vaniety Fair cover is very obvious. That does not mean I don't like him. He would be a good at playing Henry Jones III. If they want to do a follow-up, no matter what idea they eventually come up with, this could restart a franchise. Indy saving the world from the likes of the Red Menace and other post cold war era, Indy could become a sort of American James Bond. And having a son to help, could start the franchise in a new direction. While Hartnett may not be the best choice, Casper Van Dien would be an even crappier idea. All Casper's got going for him is his perfect abs and chest. And while some of us queers and straight girls like that, Casper has no ability to act. He's one big set piece. Setting Indy 4 in the late 1930's or 1940's would make us all stare up and remember the last bunch of Roger Moore Bond's where it was spot the stuntman. Bring him into the late 50's and send him on one last adventure with his son...DS9 Rules

  • but then decided that it wasn't worth it. BUT, now that you have broken the ice, I will. My first thought was, "Yes, he sure would look good but, unfortunately, he would be required to act." Acting is something that man is incapable of performing with any degree of competency. When you called him a big set piece I had this mental image of a cardboard cut out that being moved around a set. It would probably win him an award as it would be his best acting ever.

  • July 8, 2001, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Aw, Gee, Soylent. I Should Have Known When I Saw The Sign That S

    by Buzz Maverik

    Ya know, it makes sense that a cult of amphibian people who worship a giant sea entity that is itself the spawn of an even mightier, primordial dark sea god, would in fact be environmentalists. I always sort of suspected that the Deep Old Ones might have been the good guys after all.

  • July 8, 2001, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Spear of Destiny vs IJ and the Water Bong

    by Huneybee

    It does have a nice sound to it...the first one, that is. I think that is the best suggestion I have heard for a new quest. Ah well, with a little poetic license, anything is possible. I liked the possibility of invisibility that the first poster mentioned. Even if it is not true, it would help distinguish it from the ark.

  • July 8, 2001, 4:15 p.m. CST

    honeybee, that was hilarious.

    by Electric_Monk

    That gives a new meaning to card board acting and chewing the scenery. Poor Casper, but then again, someone has to replace the aging Andrew Stevens on Showtimes skin-o-flick B movies. Just envision it now: Casper Van Dien in Showgirls IV: return of the Killer Dance Pole. It makes one shudder...

  • July 8, 2001, 4:36 p.m. CST

    I don't know about making me shudder...

    by Huneybee

    but it certainly made me laugh!!!

  • July 8, 2001, 4:58 p.m. CST

    HA HA HA Yeah right!!!

    by Insane Tiki

    Oh boy... that is some funny stuff. Indiana Jones and H.P. Lovecraft. Ha... okay, I've got it out of my system now. I... HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

  • July 8, 2001, 5:49 p.m. CST


    by BatVomit

    Call of Cthulhu my ass. I haven't heard a lamer rumor since.....well since NEVER. Harry, I have been coming to this site for almost 2 years and it's stupidity level during that time has sky rocketed, but this takes the cake. Really. Why would you post such an obviously phony rumor? Are you trying to piss away what little credibility you have left? Even Lucas and Speilberg wouldn't be stupid enough to tie in Indiana Jones with Lovecraft and I can't believe you're dumb enough to post it on your site...unless this is some feeble joke.

  • July 8, 2001, 6:03 p.m. CST

    by the way....

    by BatVomit

    ...whoever it was who posted the comment about getting George Clooney to reprise the role of Indiana Jones needs to be drug out into the street and shot.

  • July 8, 2001, 7:48 p.m. CST

    why not both young and old?

    by superconcon

    How about a plotline that would allow for both an older, Ford Indy with a younger version in flashback? I would say that type of structure worked quite well in Godfather II.

  • remember anyone? Also, the only thing really that Harrison Ford had done (besides that small part in American Grafitti) that was high profile was Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Blade Runner came out later (like in '82). So, Harrison Ford could have been considered a long shot. Oh and as for Josh Hartnett? Too young. When Ford first portrayed Indi wasn't he already around forty? If a Hartnett is to be Indie - they'd have to start sometime BEFORE the search for the Lost Ark. As for someone suggesting Ed Burns - hmmm, he'd be good. Oh hell - give it to Bruce Campbell....<<<smirk>>>

  • July 8, 2001, 9:03 p.m. CST


    by Anno_fan

    By the time they get around to making this thing (if they do at all) Indiana Jones is going to so wrinkled it's going to be pathetic!!! Like seeing some aging classic rock band who doesn't quite have it anymore. This is depressing.....

  • July 8, 2001, 10:45 p.m. CST

    A father and son team, heck, throw grampa Connery in there too

    by Huneybee

    When Brunt and I were discussing Hartnett, it was as an Indy, Jr character, not a replacement for Ford. You are correct in that he would be way too young for that role. As far as Selleck goes, just how old is he these days? He ain't exactly a spring chicken either.

  • July 8, 2001, 10:45 p.m. CST

    TV Show?

    by andromere

    At the end of the story there was a reference to Harry having a T.V. Show. Did I miss something..... What show?

  • July 9, 2001, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Regarding Judas' coins

    by SirReal

    I believe that Judas' reward for selling out Jesus was 30 silver coins, not 12 (g)old ones. After he received them he sprinkled them on the ground and hung himself over them.

  • July 9, 2001, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones will happen, possibly

    by Pips Orcille

    This whole money thing is a pile of crap. I don't believe that these rumors are true because 1) George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford are very good friends 2) George Lucas is a billionare. How much money does he need? He can pretty much finance the whole Indiana Jones project just from whatever Star Wars: EP2 earns at the box office next year. This is pathetic. If these rumors are true, then Harrison Ford, George Lucas, and Ford are just so pathetic, they can't even taken chances. They are so damn rich, that what are they using their money for besides security (money, food, home, health, air)?

  • July 9, 2001, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Not at all, Daffy_McGraw

    by Huneybee

    It just means you are a secure human being. I was sarcastically referring to the nasty little habit many of the people here have of verbally assaulting someone on a personal level for no reason. In at least two reviews on this site Hartnett has been abused to the point of idiocy. I, too, have actors/actresses whose work I do not like but I try to contain myself to remarking on their extraordinary lack of talent and not their personal appearance. If my post seemed to imply otherwise, I apologize._____A remorseful(and getting sleepy)Bee

  • July 9, 2001, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Legends of the Fall

    by Squashua

    I mean, really. CoC meets Indy? It'd be nice, especially considering that the Ark and Grail can then be poo-pooed away as Mythos artifacts. Indiana Jones and the [Insert Movie Name Here]

  • July 9, 2001, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Spear od Destiny has been done

    by SKMDC

  • July 9, 2001, 9:24 a.m. CST

    The Eye and the Franchise

    by TheShoveler

    Question: If Indy is old and missing an eye and the franchise needs a new Indy for the next five movies, how do they pull it off? Here's how: Unwittingly, Indy is paired up with his son (born of Marion) to fight Commies (Cold War Era) who have a vision to dominate the Earth (We will bury you). In his quest for fortune and glory and the relic that has entranced the Bad Guys (Spear, Hookah, Talisman - whatever), he discovers the child's identity (my son?!?) and later has to protect him (the Bad Guys will torture him or me if they know he is my boy) from the truth. He sacrifices his eye (run, son) while being tortured (OUCH, my eye!), providing time for the child to escape the bad guys. The boy's name remains the same as Marion's (he doesn't know any better). Years later, Marion receives a distress call (Help me, Marion). The truth comes out. We discover that Indy's son (he knows, now) cannot ignore the call of fortune and glory (genes rule) and, in a situation that parallels the Last Crusade, young Jones steps up to save Indy's life and take over the franchise. Dad is done with fortune and glory (Indy suffers the fate of the miniseries) while his son is just beginning. Thus one eye is lost and one franchise is renewed. Now where's my bong?

  • July 9, 2001, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones 4

    by Disturbed4021

    I don't believe that title. "The Call of Cthulhu" sound too much like "The Call of Ktulu," which is a song by Metallica. That title just sounds like someone trying to make like they know more than they do.

  • July 9, 2001, 11:39 a.m. CST

    But those are books about the SoD,SKMDC

    by Huneybee

    Has anyone here actually read them? I read the blurbs on all four and, collectively, they sounded like a good Indy story.I have to admit, at the same time, the nazi connection makes it sound like a rehash of The Lost Ark. <sigh> The spear could be how he loses an eye, though. That would make sense: sharp pointy object, lots of running around...remember what your mother always said. _____A Bee running with scissor's

  • July 9, 2001, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Awesome idea, but it'll never happen

    by Halloween68

    You know, this idea sounds really cool. A marriage between the Indiana Jones adventures and the Lovecraft mythologies would be a really cool thing. I could see it now, the horrific moment when Indie found out that the Lovecraftian Lore was really based on fact. Reading the runes, and then looking into the eyes of the unspeakable terror of what was once the mad arab. His hair sticks up on end, and what's left of the black in it turns completely chalk white. You see yet why this is a completely bogus rumor? While we have the occasional thrill or chill, Indiana Jones is family entertainment. Lovecraftian lurkers beyond the shadows is way too adult thematic and psychologically terrifying to even remotely concidering such a thing as ever happening. Don't kid yourselves. It's not going to happen. No matter how cool the idea might sound. The forehead has spoken...

  • July 9, 2001, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Some Info

    by Qintahr

    Okay, as far as the title, "The Call of Cthulhu"... this is the actual title of not only one of H.P.'s best works, where the His Squidly Majesty made his best-known appearance, and it is also the title of Chaosium's RPG based on Lovecraft's Work. Yes, there is also an instrumental that Metallica did called "Call of Ktulu". Now you know where the name came from, and where the inspiration for it came from, as well. Incidentally, their song "The Thing That Should Not Be" is ALSO inspired by The Cthulhu Mythos. Finally, H.P.'s work is officially PUBLIC DOMAIN. *Anyone* can use those characters, books, Old Ones, and Namelss Horrors in ANY kind of creative work. Therefore, if such a movie as "Indiana Jones and the Call of Cthulhu" were in the works, it would not be held up over disputes with HP's intellectual property. Qintahr

  • July 9, 2001, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Obviously the Title will be Three Jones' and a Baby

    by DomisInnerChild

    Lucas and Spielburg both love kids and want the largest audience possible. Ford and Connery are no longer really credible as "action stars", so the natural progression is wacky comic hyjinx. Cast Steve Guttenberg as Indy's younger brother Bunky, an illegitimate child left on a doorstep (not a stretch by any means), and let the millions roll in. They could even have a CGI talking dog.

  • July 9, 2001, 4:38 p.m. CST

    The twist will be

    by DomisInnerChild

    Even though Indy and Dad both appeared to get a piece of the German chick from Indy 3, it actually was Bunky who slipped one past the goalie after he saved her from that pit. Just imagine the looks Ford and Connery will give each other when the blood test comes back.

  • July 9, 2001, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Let sleeping dogs lie...

    by Moonwatcher

    IMHO, Spielberg's weakest films have been his sequels. Jurassic Park: the Lost World was so blatantly commercial that it was completely bereft of any joy or spontaneity, and by the time he got to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade all the principles concerned were clearly bored with the subject matter, with the exception of Sean Connery. The casting of Tom Selleck is intriguing enough to provide some new life to the franchise (and would go a long way to redress some major injustices to the man's career), but if this rumor is serious then I hope that Meister Steven will find someone else to sit behind the camera. Sequels are not his forte.

  • July 9, 2001, 5:27 p.m. CST

    environmentalist-wacko screed of Dinosaur tolerance? Who wrote d

    by Someguywithaname

    Devil Cat, you obviously know dick all about drama. You need conflict. Usually there are good guys and bad guys. In a story about genetically engineered dinosaurs--who are the good guys gonna be? Dino-burgers Limited? Environmentalists were a natural. That was one(among many) problem(s) with JP 1. The dinos were portrayed as things, or the villians-when in fact, they were the victims if one wanted to get ethical about it. I was actually surprised how misanthropic and cynical LW was, when compared with the first one(probably a combo of Spielberg's laziness and an influence of Schindler's List). If dinosaurs were found on an island--they would be exploited by humans, and it is best if they were left alone. But it is true that after Raiders the films became increasingly PC. They didnt want to offend arabs, or hindus, or turks. Even offending germans would be out of the question now...

  • July 9, 2001, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Jurassic Park--a story about learning to love children

    by Mr. Impossible

    Yeah Jurassic park was a piece of crap. It had no discernable plot structure. Gruff paleontologist who hates children goes to island. gets stuck with two very annoying brats. At end--they get away--he is hugging children. He likes kids. Aw...yeah. That Trex rescue was neat--but made NO sense at all. Like the raptors couldnt hear this ground shaking critter approaching them... I prefer the second one despite the gymnastics stunt, dumb characters(but none were as bad as Laura Dern and the kids from the first)and the King Kong rip off final section. It also had one of the best endings I have seen in these sorts of films when the nice cute T-rex baby who was in jeopardy for most of the film, gets the final kill. I love irony. Anyway--let IJ rest in peace. Three is enough--and Lucas and Spielberg have enough money. Chances are it wont be any good.

  • July 9, 2001, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Oh Yeah

    by Ted Lebowski

    Toe Jam that would be the shit! I've always wanted to see Indy do something like that. Or he could be searching for an artifact in Asia. He could face off against a ninja cult or some weird cult group like that. That Cult from Temple of Doom was the shit! He just ripped that guys heart out of his fuckin chest! Lets see crazy shit like that again!! OH FUCKING HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!

  • July 9, 2001, 7:23 p.m. CST


    by Deepeagle

    ok,hows this? Indiana Jones and the search for the script that will probably never happen. I like that one, Hey George and Steven, try that one, oh and please make the script better than Tomb Raider's(which was ok but could have been even better) Oh and for the rest of you guys who read this, if Indy 4 never makes it, we will most likely have to settle for TR series in terms of "Archaeology" and "saving old relics". ( hope that doesn't happen)

  • July 10, 2001, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Search for Jimi's Bandana

    by Gentle_Fury

    yeah!! Indy would be in his 60's almost 70's and his son is a hippy that goes to woodstock!! But seriously, talk of this has been going on forever, my opinion is that this post was put up to get some talkback brainstorms. As bogus and idiodic a premise it is, it did bring on some good ideas. I think the idea of a son would be great, but at Harrisons age now, to write it right he would have to be in his 20's or 30's. Too bad River Pheonix is dead, who better to play indys son than the original young indy!! Atlantis would never fly, as Diz already scored it, and it would just be seen as that. Noahs Ark.....nope, he already found ONE Ark......noone would buy it, based on the name. Excaliber??? If im not mistaken didnt he already meet a knight of the crusades that had a mad cool Excaliber like sword that he offered to indy and he turned down? And then of course the whole premise of the entire franchise and any inlying conitnuity has been totally destroyed as of the Last Crusade when indy drinks from the Cup of Christ being granted eternal life!!!!!! yet in the Young Indy show it starts off in present day and indy is old as shit! that also destroyed any chance of dear old dad getting killed or even dying of old age didnt it!! They really shot themselves in the foot with that premise. Dont get me wrong, i personally think TLC was the best Indy installment, it had the most story and background and was all around the meatiest indy flick, but by having them drink from the cup of eternal life means that neither of them can die???? Or perhaps they were trying to say that by crossing the seal all deals were off, course in going that route wouldnt henry sr's gunshot wound reappeared?? As much as i would ABSOLUTLY LOVE to see an Indy 4 i think they should leave the last crusade AS the LAST crusade!

  • July 10, 2001, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Why not just take all the rumors and mix em together with a spla

    by Gentle_Fury

    Why not really ruin things by explaining off that weak ass piece of shit Mummy franchise and have Brendon Frazier reprise his pathetic i wish i was Indy Mummy role and have him be the illegitimate son of Indy!!! Then you could have the two of them reunited while Indy is in Egypt searching for the Staff of Ra and stumbles over the stargate and gets taken over by a G'aould (or however the fuck its spelled) and Frazier and Connery have to go find Indy and save the world from him. Oh yeah and Indy in his newly alien killing machine state decides to raise Cthulhu who has now decided to change residence to Atlantis!! Ummm, lets see along the way they find Noahs Ark, and with a couple of nails and boards get it to sail again and take off to the middle of the pacific to find Atlantis but accidently run into an iceburg.........the ark takes about 3 hours to sink, while thats happening they could cut to the nazis bombing Paris in an all too long pearl harbor fashion (cuz every Indy fan loves Nazis and bombs!!) and ummm umm yeah once they finally get to atlantis they meet a floppy eared all CG character that talks with a lisp and saves the day by accidently (and comically) falling onto the lever marked "Apocolypse On/Off". Everyone has a great big laugh about it all (especially Lucas and Spielberg as they cash they're fat ass checks) the audience leaves the theater totally disapointed and pissed off cuz the trailers kicked so much ass, and then get in line anxious to see Indy 5!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmmmmmmm does any of this sound familiar????? Whelp thats hollywood for ya!! So, thats my treatment, get it to the big boys post haste!!! we got millions to make!!!!

  • July 10, 2001, 12:28 p.m. CST

    it would be cool..

    by cactusboy

    to show Indy in the 1950's -- maybe meeting up with Karen Allen again - at a diner - trying to rekindle the old flame.. show some pugnose kids making fun of the professor.. and him lose his cool and maybe use the whip in the town square or something.. then get a call for his next adventure in Africa or wherever.

  • July 12, 2001, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Indy IV

    by Crackmunky

    ok ok.. so heres what I think... we should scratch all the judeo-christian crap and make this an all time epic... throw together Indy and Tomb Raider thats right, Angelina Jolie (shes so hot) and make this a tag team adventurewhere they go after a relic in Atlantis that resurects Ckuthulu... that way what lacking there is in script and story will be made up by Jolie's tits and ass.. not to mention we can make it rated R and see em for real!!