Review

JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK review

Published at: July 4, 2001, 3:06 p.m. CST by headgeek

Many have been asking for where my A.I. review is… Well frankly, I haven’t seen it yet, I’m seeing it tonight. I’ve just returned from Los Angeles where I was shooting something very cool, I promise, but I’m not saying right now because I’m an evil bastard. But it required me to join a Union and work a quarter ounce of my obese ass off (which Kitten will enjoy I’m sure). But whilst in Los Angeles I saw only 2 films… I only had room for two. And while I’ve been dying to see A.I., I can see that here in Austin tonight, whereas I could not see… JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK or JEEPERS CREEPERS here tonight! So I picked those two.

I will write my review for A.I. as soon as I return from the late night screening tonight, and despite being surrounded by negativity towards that film for the past week, I am going in with as open a mind as I possibly can. And hope to disagree with Moriarty fiercely. We’ll see.

HOWEVER, enough of that… Time to talk about a View Askew production…

God Bless Kevin Smith!

Kevin Smith has shot the greatest slap in the face of TALK BACK ASSHOLES ever on the face of planet Earth.

It is literally a movie dedicated to the eradication to those spineless bastages that find the need to piss on everything simply because their mommies aren’t watching over their diapered asses!

I have no idea how this film will play to anyone offline… but if you’ve ever been a victim of TALK BACK…. Or some variant there of… well then, you will cheer like a monkey in a Banana Republic.

What is the film about?

Shutting Talkbackers up.

That’s it. That is what the film is about.

You see, when Talk Backers get to ranting on someone like Kevin Smith or Paul Thomas Anderson or Gary Coleman… they think, "Fuck them man, hahahaa, I just typed Fuck them man!!! Hahahaha!"

And they never really think that the person they are taking a dump on is out there reading what they are saying. And if they do, it’s like pissing on a fire hydrant that kids are dancing in the shower from… just… an uncool act of a demented ass.

And Kevin Smith has obviously read way too many talk backs and way too many posts on the View Askew boards and while he doesn’t have the therapeutic ability to just click and ban assholes for ruining his day, he did manage to get the ability to depict these little dipshits as being the insensitive little twerps that they are, so that the entire movie going public can laugh at these shits.

Now the biggest flaw in the film is that it doesn’t take the time to depict the many super genii that hang out in Talk Back and contribute to the betterment of mankind through intelligent and insightful prose.

But then, they aren’t funny. The dipshits are.

I couldn’t stop laughing at this film. This movie is a hugely childish thumb to nose and wave at them while sticking out his tongue.

The film is fall down funny. Now technically it might have tons of flaws, but I didn’t notice because I was so giggly over the concept that Kevin Smith has made a movie to MOON Internet Talk Backers that have talked shit about him. That’s just beautiful. It is pure.

Chaplin made THE GREAT DICTATOR to make the world see Hitler for what he was…. And Kevin Smith made JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK to make people realize that those little internet flame whores out there are very much the logs of excrement that we all know them to be.

Now… How funny is the movie itself?

VERY.

I like CLERKS… I love CHASING AMY… but I still have never seen MALLRATS or DOGMA. I’ve been waiting to buy that special edition DOGMA dvd forever. And I don’t know why I’ve never seen MALLRATS… I guess it was because I never saw it in theaters and I never rent videos or dvds…

And while CHASING AMY is still the film of Kevin’s that I’ve seen that I feel is the best all around movie…

I love JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK best. It is like a Mad Magazine humor adventure at full blown R-rating hell.

This feels like Kevin getting all of his most favorite juvenile urges out and on screen in one big whoopee cushion and shock ring thing.

If nothing else watching Ben Affleck and Matt Damon filming the sequel to GOOD WILL HUNTING… well it is enough to make me sit through the film again.

And Mewes…. Who the fuck knew? Dear God, the boy is a damn God in the film. He rules. Having Jay take centerstage for the entire film at first sounds like it could possibly be way bad, but folks… JAY rules in this flick. And I could tell… Kevin was so all about going down on Jay. You’ll see.

The cameos… well I didn’t ‘get’ all of them, but the ones I did get… I loved. And George Carlin’s cameo is genius. I’ll never look at a hitchhiker the same again.

The book of the road.

Oh man. Must be seen.

And then there is the BRILLIANT CAMEO by Paul Dini! OHMYGOD! First off, as anyone who bought the BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER published screenplay can attest… Paul Dini is the sexiest man alive. And when he hit the screen, women and Moriarty fainted after a BEATLE-esque scream that is.

Dini commands the screen and we hinge on every word he says. I just can’t believe that they let him… well do that onscreen. I didn’t know that was legal.

The ‘Paul Dini’ scene may get the film banned in Oklahoma, but everywhere else… people will cheer. I just hope it somehow doesn’t get cut. But… whew…

Also, this may very well be the first time that the internet film community has been fairly accurately depicted… at least the lower evil sector of it.

Kevin Smith… You Rule! Way to go!

Oh yeah, and Eliza Dushku… You are SEX! I mean just hot as hell yum yum eatumup yum SEX in this movie! And Shannon Elizabeth? I agree with Jay’s 42 ounce Big Gulp cup hanger! And Ali Larter and Jennifer Schwalbach Smith? Also Yumalicious! And all 4 in their coming out scene? WOWZERSTANDING! Yup, that’s right… Fanboy dreams on screen and knowing it.

This movie ruled!

P.S. To you people in Talk Back that can not read and comprehend. I am not insulting TALK BACKERS.... I'm insulting that percentage of whiny bitches that do nothing in Talk Back but shit upon any and everything. You know who you are. There are many very cool Talk Backers... the ones that post intelligent and well written pieces, informed opinions and thought out expressions. Unfortunately there is that otherside of Talk Back which, while causing great laughter, also hurts some people's feelings. Believe me, I can take any and all shots at me... However, there are quite a few directors, writers, producers and even writers on this site that hate and can't stand the "Talk Back Assholes" (official term for the whiny bitches) And when you see JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK, you'll know what I mean.

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  • July 4, 2001, 3:13 p.m. CST

    there is no way this movie can be bad

    by Jack Diamond

    i love those guys

  • July 4, 2001, 3:13 p.m. CST

    But then they always say that about these films...

    by Kieran

    ... and they're always a disappointment. Jay & Silent Box were great in Clerks, but I wished Smith had just left them there. Surely there's another story out there he wants to tell.

  • July 4, 2001, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Can't wait...

    by iAmGladiator

    Even though I'm not smart, I still find Kevin Smith to be one of the funniest writers out there.. I love his dialogue, which beats anything this last Summer has to offer.. Now, I may be off a bit, but I think Cast Away had more dialogue than A.I., which was mostly Spielberg's camera following lil' David as he makes those cute faces.. I still liked A.I. though...

  • July 4, 2001, 3:29 p.m. CST

    This or Kiss of the Dragon are the best of the summer

    by GravyAkira

    I have yet to see this one yet, but this is one of those films that I know wont disappoint.

  • July 4, 2001, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Notice

    by Cafeman

    Notice how nobody is saying fuck this or fuck that. :]

  • July 4, 2001, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Was that a review?

    by Batutta

    Seriously, Harry, that was some of your worst writing. And who cares if the people we skewer in these talkbacks read our stuff. Where else are they going to get honest feedback? Not in Hollywood, where the egos of stars are constantly stroked. If they really care what some adoles

  • July 4, 2001, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry, It's Already Printed What You Were Doing In LA

    by DropKickMurphy

    Here ya go buddy, from E ONLINE "Finally... A journalist invited to an early L.A. screening of Dimension's Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back could have made 100 bucks the easy way. All he had to do was take an eager Kevin Smith fan to the screening as his guest, no strings attached--they probably wouldn't even have had to sit together. But the upstanding (and unreasonably well compensated) writer passed. Now, while it's hard for me to imagine anyone paying for a Kevin Smith movie, that misguided fan would have been sitting within spitting distance of Ain't It Cool News' Moriarty and Harry Knowles (in town prepping a pilot episode of his upcoming show)"-Anderson Jones --------------------------------- Damn Silent Bob Show Some Heart! I'll be there opening day. This is one of 3 films I'm looking for this summer, along with MADE and THE SCORE. lalalal i don't wanna do you dirty work no more....lalalalalal

  • July 4, 2001, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Harry, rent Mallrats. It's a guilty pleasure to be sure.

    by SilentBob X

    I have got to see Jay and SilentBob Strike Back. I just hope it doesn't get overlooked and get shut out of wide release. I have said all along that Kevin did with $27,000 what Joel Schumacher couldn't do with a billion: Make a funny, meaningful, entertaining movie. And yes, that movie was Clerks. I not only admire him for his work, but for his guts. He risked everything he had to make Clerks and break into showbiz. Not only that, but he proved once and for all that the power of a movie is in its WRITING. That's right, kiddies, not in the f/x, locations, or stars. The WRIITNG. My only regret is that this will be the last View Askew film of his career. I will sorely miss his cast of characters, most of all, Jay and SilentBob. But, on the bright side, we'll soon get to see a whole new Kevin conquer Hollywood and maybe give it the one thing it needs: Intelligence. Snoogans.

  • July 4, 2001, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Oh joy!

    by Hat Fairy

    It's so wonderful to see that Kevin Smith, having grown as a filmmaker and person since becoming a husband and father, having made a flawed but well-intentioned film about religion and faith and other deep issues... has finally decided to tackle the important subject of... online Talk Back jerks? Personally, I think Smith is a very talented and funny motherfucker who is wasting his time making these "View Askew movies", which - while some are entertaining - are very disappointng to see. Especially after Smith proved with "Chasing Amy" that he is capable of balancing raucous humor with serious drama. Personally, I cannot wait to see Smith adapt "Fletch Won" with Jason Lee as his Fletch. I think the best possible thing for Smith to do would be to apply his talent toward more interesting projects, perhaps even films like "Dogma", which balance his style of humor with a serious subject matter. No, believe it or not, this is not me dissing Kevin Smith. This is me hoping that Smith does more with his talent than aim to please brain-dead college types who still say "Snootchie Bootchies" to this very day.

  • July 4, 2001, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Harry spews some bile at the TB he created!

    by Tall_Boy

    attaboy. stick it to the geeks. PS- RENT MALLRATS!!!

  • July 4, 2001, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Herr Fingercuffs here...

    by DrAlyssaJonze

    You've got me excited about this all over again...you naughty puppy. Just as I was starting to calm down over the imminent release... mother pus bucket...this and The Royal Tanenbaums are the only films I'm really looking forward to this year, 'part from "Dude, Where's My Ring?" in December. So jealous of you right now man. So very, very jealous. Alyssa out. xx

  • July 4, 2001, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I love Kevin Smith's stuff, BUT...

    by RickSlamu2

    THAT ALL THIS FILM IS ABOUT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Harry, you might laugh your rocks off on this Mooning, AS YOU PUT IT, of flaming talk backers. But dam it how much mileage can you get out of giving some one the, Although be it a well deserved in SOME cases, FINGER? Kevin has taken serious subjects in the past and made you think about them in a different way through laughter and humor. God. Love. Lesbians. BUT TALK BACKERS!?!?! HE WASTED and entire film giving the finger to talk backers?!?! I HAD looked forward to this to this film BUT thanks to Harry wetting himself in this review I an now not so sure that this film is anything for me to look forward to!

  • July 4, 2001, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Sarcasm

    by Vidar

    Hey Harry, you suck. Blah Blah Blah. Quit sucking up to Kevin Smith. Blah Blah Blah. He paid you off. Blah Blah Blah. You sell out. Blah Blah Blah. I am so totally enightened because I can see through your bullshit. Blah Blah Blah. By the way Harry Potter is a kids book. Blah Blah Blah. P.S. I am just a sad little man who likes to rape anytrhing that other people like, and judge things that I have never read or seen. I do that with people to. And I never once look at myself and think "Man look at how sad I am to not only spend time reading about stuff that I don't like, but then also to take more time away from time with friends (I really don't have any) to write a talkback tearing it down. And I never realize that no matter how much I don't like something that if it makes one person happy then it is a success and it is beautiful in its own way. More so than anything that I will ever do in my meaningless life. Cause these people are taking a chance and creating something and putting it out there for morons like me to judge and that is something I would never have the courage to do. The most courage I can muster up is barely enough to allow me to sit at the safety of my keyboard and make fun of other people. Man I am such a loser. I come to Harry's website and call him fat and make fun of him, and never once does it dawn in my stupid little mind how ironic it is that I am supporting and hiim and helping him to be a success in what he does. Bye for now, I got to go fuck some sheep." P.S.S. Remember the subject heading. (and fuck all you assholes who do what I am talking about)

  • July 4, 2001, 5:09 p.m. CST

    WHAT !

    by Necrophagia

    how on earth could you never have seen mallrats ?!!! out of all the view akew films mallrats was the first one that i heard of and also the first that i seen, (and for a long time in my opinion the best). now though i rank mallrats and clerks joint third greatest movies ever made. SO I'M TELLING YOU NOW , GO AND RENT MALLRATS !!!!!!!!! YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. i'm finished.

  • July 4, 2001, 5:10 p.m. CST

    K Smith, a fanboy's hero

    by bent wookie

    everyone has to aggree, Smithy is what every comic book junkie, amateur filmmaker, college dropout dreams of being. his films are just of a different breed of the usual hollywack crap, and hey who wouldn't want to make some of the greatest funny books ever made in the business. all i gots ta say is more Smithy, less Schumacher.

  • July 4, 2001, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Dipshit? Did you call moi a dipshit?

    by hktelemacher

    People need to have thicker skin. If J&SBSB is just Kevin Smith's revenge note to the folks who talk shit about he needs to grow up and take the hits, because all of the geeky fuckwads who talk down on him on message boards are either A) jealous of his success or B) just didn't like his films. Does he expect every single member of the population to worship his work? As an artist putting yourself out there that's the risk you take. He has legions of loyal fans, plenty of people who really genuinely dig his stuff, a lot of critics raving about his movies, and a laundry list of good actors who want to work with him. What more does a person need? Not everybody likes him, but not everybody likes Kurosawa, Welles, Kubrick, or Truffaut. So what if people jab at him relentlessly on the talk backs? If it's funny, then I know I would probably get a kick out of it because it's just one person's opinion. If J&SBSB is just a big wet fuck you to the people who don't like his movies, then those very same people most likely aren't shelling out the $7.50 ticket prices. So everyone who likes Smith gets to sit there and watch him dump on his detractors. Boy, that sounds fun AND mature. I mean, I know most of the View Askew DVD commentaries are just that, but an entire feature? I enjoy Smith, but he's proved himself to be nothing but immature, just like with that whole exhausted Paul Thomas Anderson thing. If Anderson was on Smith's level he would go ahead and make an entire film to combat Smith because Smith didn't like Magnolia. But no, the more mature person takes the higher road. Smith is getting all weepy about someone talking shit about his films which, let's all face fucking facts, are not superb cinematic achievements. It's good that's still maintaining roots and looking at what the average viewer says instead of the industry insider, but it's a small percentage of moviegoers who actually do follow industry news and then post their thoughts on talk backs. I had high hopes for J&SBSB, and I LIKE Kevin Smith, but if he wants to be regarded as a serious filmmaker he needs to get his shit together and not make a film to vindicate himself in the eyes of people who don't like him. He should look at the criticisms of his work, some of them valid, and then think about maybe making little changes. But in his own eyes, apparently he can do no wrong, and it must be a problem with everyone else and not his films. If he's reading this, I hope that he'll make a film for himself again, a more personal story along the lines of the great Chasing Amy and stop caring about what only a few assholes say. I hope that Smith rises above this level as he should be capable of doing and stops making films to win approval. People do love him, and fuck the ones who don't.

  • July 4, 2001, 5:46 p.m. CST

    WOO HOO!!! KEVIN SMITH HAS DONE IT AGAIN!!

    by Filmjester

    Actually I haven't seen it yet, but Im a big fan of Kevin Smith's. I've been to one of his panels, have some clerks merchandise and have seen a couple of his flicks too. I just think he should be the one writing the daredevil movie. Sigh... Maybe Green Arrow... Hope to get his signature on a Clerks poster when I get to Comic Con- Filmjester angelfire.com/nj3/filmjesterhome Self Promotion Ooooooo.... Awww...

  • July 4, 2001, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Well, gee I hope this movie fuckin rocks.....................

    by axelfoley

    Because I loved Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy was good too....I guess. However, if Shite was a continent, Dogma would be it's ambassador. I respect Kevin Smith because he's kind of his own person. In the sense that he does his thing, connects all his characters in his films like some cinematic comic book, and regardless of the outcome he could give a fuck less. That's a TRUE artist in my book. Now, is Smith Spielberg. Good god, no. But Smith's still young, I'm 21 now, and I'm not one of those people with their heads up their asses about age. Teenagers, anyone? My point is 30, which is Smith's age is not OLD. So, he still has many years ahead of him as a filmmaker, should he choose to accept it. I will admit this though, with the Scream 3 appearance, Jay and Silent Bob is really getting old. Enough is enough. I'll still be there opening night though, cheering on Smith's next film as his ode to the all-stars of his early flicks, presumably before he goes mainstream. As if Dogma wasn't the case with that predicatment already.

  • July 4, 2001, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Here I was thinking this was a review.........

    by axelfoley

    I'll still be seeing this opening night though. To hell with Scary Movie 2. The fact that movie was made is even more of a joke than some of the selections for this year's MLB All-Star Game. And keep in mind, that's a REALLY big fucking joke! If there was any justice, the Wayans would all be our of show business and frying pepperburgers at a Roy Rogers somewhere.

  • July 4, 2001, 6:15 p.m. CST

    I doubt that was what this movie was entirely about...

    by JonQuixote

    Kinda letting the personal interpretation run rampant over the "review", huh Harry? Not that I'm denying the idiocy of the vast majority of talkbackers, but that was kind of an uncalled for shot at your bread and butter. That's the one thing that has always peeved me about this site, the high and mighty attitude the operators, especially the "King", take towards the customers. A lot of high horse stuff, especially for a site that is largely successful due to a "peer" approach.*** At any rate, here's hoping that Kevin Smith can save a dreadful summer. But whatever anyone thinks of his movies, there's no denying that if more filmmakers were like him, what a wonderful world this would be. Especially the DVD section of your local video store!

  • July 4, 2001, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Is there a big baby who runs the whole organization?

    by poisonsksin

    I'm looking forward to this movie, but I hope that despite all the 'Talk backer' bitching there's an idiot Harry character, banning posts for no reason, writing articles that make little if any sense 50% of the time and not realizing that without people posting, his ugly site wouldn't have a whole lot of updates. And of course "Talk Backers" don't really count all that much for the amount of jackass film fans posting on the net. Just some of the worst.

  • July 4, 2001, 7:11 p.m. CST

    At least the TalkBack is honest

    by rp777

    At least they're not a lot of idiot yes men who have no fucking idea what they're talking about and greenlight horseshit. What if the script to Wild Wild West was filtered through a TalkBack prism? The fucking thing wouldn't have been made and Warner BRothers would have saved a shitload of money. Stop being such a pussy and accept criticism. The people who are involved in the entertainment business are incredibly lucky assholes and they need to stop feeling like they neede dto be treated like Fabrege eggs.

  • July 4, 2001, 7:37 p.m. CST

    mareseatoatsandoeseatoats....

    by Vance Castaway

    The Stolen Child Where dips the rocky highland*** Of Sleuth Wood in the Lake,*** There lies a leafy island*** Where flapping herons wake*** The drowsy water-rats*** There we've hid our faery vats,*** Full of berries*** And of reddest stolen cherries.*** Come away, O human child!*** To the waters and the wild*** With a faery, hand in hand,*** For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand****** Where the wave of moonlight glosses*** The dim grey sands with light*** Far off by furthest rosses*** We foot it all the night,*** Weaving olden dances,*** Mingling hands and mingling glances*** Till the moon has taken flight,*** To and fro we leap*** And chase the frothy bubbles,*** While the world is full of troubles*** And is anxious in its sleep*** Come away, O human child!*** To the waters and the wild*** With a faery, hand in hand,*** For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand****** Where the wandering water gushes*** From the hills above Glen-Car,*** In pools among the rushes*** That scarce could bathe a star,*** We seek for slumbering trout*** And whispering in their ears*** Give them unquiet dreams,*** Leaning softly out*** From ferns that drop their tears*** Over the young streams*** Come away, O human child!*** To the waters and the wild*** With a faery, hand in hand,*** For the world's more full of weeping than you can understand****** Away with us he's going,*** The solemn-eyed*** He'll hear no more the lowing*** Of the calves on the warm hillside*** Or the kettle on the hob*** Sing peace into his breast*** Or see the brown mice bob*** Round and round the oatmeal chest*** For he comes, the human child*** To the waters and the wild*** With a faery, hand in hand,*** From a world more full of weeping then he can understand********* --W.B. Yeats, 1889

  • That guy's great! Too bad he couldn't reprise his role in "Jay And Silent Bob" to extract his revenge! Just heard that that little dildo that plays "A.J. Soprano" got busted for robbing some little punk ass bitches for $40 and some drugs. Christ, are S.A.G. dues THAT expensive?! Time for A.J. to sleep with the fishes. As for Paula Poundstone, I'm wearing a Cub Scout uniform just for her as long as she buys my cookies.

  • July 4, 2001, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Harry, lesson number 127: Noone is not a real word (we've gone o

    by JackBurton

    As for Kevin Smith, I neither deify him nor do I think he's a hack. I really dug Chasing Amy, Mallrats was good mindless fun, Dogma had it's moments, and the Clerks movie was pretty good all in all, but hardly the best (or funniest) film ever. The Clerks animated show was pretty damn lame though, and just didn't have the geniune laughs to sustain it. I also think that while Kevin Smith *is* a very good writer, he's pretty limited as a director and just doesn't have much of a visual eye for the art of film which detracts from his work at times, and hopefully thats something that he has addressed in his newest film, although to be honest I'm not holding my breath. Still Jay & Bob should be good fun, and if it is then thats good enough for me. And all of that is just *my* opinion, talkback asshole extraordinaire. :) By the way, I give AICN TV half a season tops, after all who wants to see a criminally obese fanboy and a guy by the name of McWeeny ramble on (and on, and on...) about how Tomb Raider sucks, but The Mummy Returns is nothing short of a cinematic marvel for any more than five minutes at a time? Plus I'm also taking bets that there will be a sexy co-host on the show for no other reason than to give the camera something to look at other than Harry. Hey, I said I was an asshole. :)

  • July 4, 2001, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Ah, I've found the analogy

    by Darth Brooks

    Harry, complaining about the variety of TalkBackers is like standing up in a Rocky Horror screening with a finger to your lips and yelling "SHHHHH!" Perhaps I'm as dense as a titanium layer cake, but isn't Talkback ONLY interesting for its variety of views? Even the buttheads, and the newbies, and the jaded ones and the effete snobs? Criminy.

  • July 4, 2001, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Criticism

    by ArchDiver

    Couple of things. 1- To state an opinion is one thing, but to stalk this site pissing on everything to incense people is boorish (check the names and writing styles, you can figure out which idiots are just being inflammatory.) 2- Just as the artist opens himself to criticism with his work, the critics open themselves to retaliation with their words, particularly when they are hurtful and hateful. 3- I think KS is brave and brilliant for going after the aforementioned idiots. Fuck 'em. Fuck them all. Fuck them right in the ear! 4- Harry is a genius, cuz he keeps pissing on the pissers, and they keep coming back, and he keeps making money. You bitches are so stupid. This movie will rock. Snootches.

  • July 4, 2001, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Thank God....

    by TheGr81SLASH

    there will be something good coming out this summer. But I, like all others, will have to wait. This summer's movies have all been a mix of lackluster flicks that cater to teens or just plain suck. I'd rather just save my money to go see this one and (maybe) American Pie 2 and Rush Hour 2, but Everything else can go down the toilet like the crap that it is.

  • July 4, 2001, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Somehow Pointing Out Smiths Flaws Means You're An Evil Little Tw

    by Easy Rider

    No offense, but the people at AICN really have no buisness saying that people that talk about someone, saying they're motherfuckers and stuff, are evil. Most people on here have valid points about Smith, PTA(whom I love), and others. I'll flat out say it: Kevin Smith blows. He really does. He's not the voice of a generation. He's some schmuck fanboy who (like a lot of people on here) have no friggin sense of reality. And then they try to get deep, like with Clerks (lame), Chasing Amy (Had a few high points), and Dogma (freakin' laughably bad and childish). When he sticks to being stupid, like with Mallrats, he's tolerable and J&SBSB looks that way too. The guy just couldn't be funny even if he had Howard Stern writing for him. I just think it's humorous that the AICN crew tries to act like they don't do anything like that, ignoring the bullseyes they've painted on the faces of people like Tarsem Singh. But then again, I guess Freddie Prinze Jr's loads don't taste quite as good as Kevin Smith's. Besides, we forgot......SMITH IS GOD!!!!

  • July 4, 2001, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Jay & Silent Bob Coming To Save Your Summer

    by Mysterio_9999

    First off, I'm glad to see that Harry enjoyed the film and that most everyone is reacting well to the trailer at the head of 'Scary Movie 2' moreso than the said flick itself they paid to see. And quite simply that's the objective of 'J&SBSB' - to simply have a good time with it. If you can (and are willing) to do so, you're gonna have a great time with it for no other reason than that. Hell, I've been following this film since last October when Kevin was in casting stages and have been to the test screening, editing sessions, and seen just about every cut version of the film. I've nearly spent all my free time on covering this film (with zero regrets) for the site and for you fans, so to me, I'm thankful Harry liked the film as much as he did, as did most fans and press that took in the screenings in LA and NY last week. It's playing quite phenomenally for a film like this that only seems to be building on it's potential more than myself or Kevin would've ever imagined. So personally I'm pleased as punch that people are taking a liking to it, otherwise I'd look like I'd sold a HUGE ASS lemon to not only Harry in taking up so much time and space on the site, but also pimping it to you, the fans for about 8 relentless months. It was a project that I took because first I was a fan, but also having read the script believed that the project was going to be something special - something that I, personally wanted to be a part of in some way, shape or form. Imagine my suprise when in one of those rare instances the film actually turned out to be better than the script. As for Harry's review focusing mainly on the internet scenario, rest assured there's more to the flick than that - it's just a plot point folks, but quite obviously it's the one joke that rings closer home to Harry and this site and the readers than anything else, so that's what he chose to focus in on. Moriarty saw the same screening that Harry saw, and will undoubtably write up his take on the pic. I think for other reasons, Harry choose to keep his review fairly spoiler-free, as have been my columns, and try and not ruin it for you all that are anxiously awaiting seeing it Aug. 24th. That was the idea from the get go here folks - to bring you as close to the film and it's production as possible without ruining the overall film experience. It's just a shame that the theatrical trailer and "other" net folks out there chose to reveal much more than Kevin himself was comfortable with having out there. It's a hard film to write a review for without devulging several jokes and gags that ultimately would upset most of you in knowing before having seen the film. If you don't trust Harry in his opinion of the film based on his review, hopefully you'll trust mine. After all, I hated both 'Godzilla' and 'Blair Witch 2'. -Mysterio

  • Then again all the stuff Harry writes is garbage. View askew my ass. This guy can kiss my red eye. 90% of these reviews are winding up to shit. All they want to do is try and make the other fat fuck look like a fool. AT least that fuck and his lackey siskel wannabe spaz has their own T.V. show.

  • July 4, 2001, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Hurt Kevin's Feelings?

    by raindog98

    You know what? I like the idea that Kevin Smith read what I wrote about the trailer. And it wasn't just me talkin' big cause nobody can see me... I would be as honest with Kevin if I was talking to him in person. Maybe a little nicer, but the essence of what I was saying would remain. And if Kevin can't take criticism... then get the fuck out of Hollywood and the public creative eye, because that's kinda the essence of the game. Fuck Kevin Smith. Honestly the trailers look like he's ripping off Airplane style humor. It's gonna be bad... I can feel it. A whole movie devoted to telling us what assholes we are? Wow... great idea. And Knowles... God... I don't think I can look at Eliza Dusku the same way after your brief whack-off session. And to the guy who posted the first message here... you're dead on. At least Talk Backers are honest.

  • ...she's going to get a visit from Mr. Spank and visit "Bottyland" with me. Heh, heh...

  • July 4, 2001, 9:14 p.m. CST

    harry, you don't rent videos?

    by Nexus-6

    what kind of geek are you? as for smith's films, i have to agree with talkbacker "JackBurton", he pretty much hit the nail on the head as far as my feelings for kev's flicks. except i don't hold "dogma" in the same regard, i hated it. but then again, i am not religious at all and didn't get half of the dialogue. P.S.- DAREDEVIL:THE MOVIE, get kevin smith to script it, and joe quesada to storyboard it(but only if the director follows the boards to a T) or get quesada to direct it himself, with smith's assistance with actors. well then maybe it'll be matt damon as matt murdock(good) and ben affleck as bullseye(COULD be good, maybe). shit i dunno, fuck, i am just a TALKBACKER fer crissake's... BAH -Batty out.

  • July 4, 2001, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Talkback Asshole # 303 Here, Pal....

    by Buzz Maverik

    Lemme get this straight. One of y'all is a widely respected filmmaker/comic book writer with a huge fan base who has a hot wife, hot ex-girlfriend, his own comic shop, a kid, movie star friends, etc. The other is a...I dunno, web-personality with his own world famous movie web site, how has been in movies, on T.V., has a kitten, has movie star and filmmaker friends...and you get your feeling hurt about something some dick like me says about you (not that I've ever had anything negative much to say about Harry or Kevin; don't get me started on Steve Carr. I HOPE STEVE CARR READS MY STEVE CARR TALKBACKS. I WANT MY MONEY!!!) and you have to make a movie about it and you have to recommend the movie for this reason, even though no one except maybe 100 people in the whole world will be able to relate to this problem. Hey, chuck-os, I do my stupid jokes here in the talkbacks for no money, no acclaim and while every once in a while somebody says, "Good stupid joke, Buzz" there's a thousand who tell me what an inbred, disease ridden, homosexual, liberal Nazi shit-eater I am and it doesn't bug me...so why should it bug you big shots. Huh, Famous Boys, answer me that!

  • July 4, 2001, 9:18 p.m. CST

    And just what does longtime TalkBacker 'User ID Indeed!' think o

    by user id indeed!

    "Wuh? Whoozat? Oh, I'm just here for the poon and the Pop-tarts, man." 'I'm just here for the poon and the Pop-tarts.' Truly, words of inspiration and encouragement in this time of TalkBack crisis. This has been a Moment with Steve Kmetko. Now, for all of us at E!, I'm signing out to go down to Nude Volleyball Town! Wee hoo! C'mere, Todd Newton!

  • July 4, 2001, 9:22 p.m. CST

    When Newspapers First Started Being Published, Some Letter-To-Th

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...were banned because people enjoyed their letters more than the newspapers themselves.

  • July 4, 2001, 9:28 p.m. CST

    "you are SEX"

    by Andy_Christ

    Do you really think that Dushku chick (whoever she is) is going to be flattered, or would you agree that she would more likely be DISTURBED? Seriously, who wants to hear something like that from a 400 pound fanboy? Harry, I ALMOST like your reviews. The problems I have are your (at times) questionable grammar, your inability to find any other punctuation on the keyboard except "!", your tendency to translate some of the most annoying mannerisms anyone could possibly have to text ("riiiiiiiight?" "cooooooooool!!!!!"), and above all, your injection of weird references to sex and sexual desire, usually at inappropriate times. (Here, I guess it's okay, but JEEZ...I'm sure there must be SOMEONE who would do you if you payed him/her/it enough!) I keep coming back for Quint, Herc, Mighty Joe Hallenbeck, and above all Moriarty. If they are all in fact really just you, Harry, then forgive me, for you are a genius. If not...take a cold shower, or lift up some folds and practice your one-armed pole vault.

  • Talk about calling the kettle black. Did you even read the words you typed? "TALK BACK ASSHOLES" "spineless bastages that find the need to piss on everything simply because their mommies aren

  • July 4, 2001, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Thank you Harry (and KS), for putting them in thier place!!

    by sprocket-bot

    First off Harry, go out and purchase the SE DVD's of Mallrats and Dogma! While Mallrats is technically inferior to some of KS' other works, it's really fun as hell flick...also proves even more why Jason Lee rocks! I enjoyed Dogma, and artistically and technically it is probably his best film, I feel that, emotionally it was missing something, that Smith's penache (s?) for tasteless humor sometimes distracted from what was a somewhat witty script. The commentaries on both are great and tons of deleted scenes...go get 'em! Now, revenge on the talkbackers...I personally rarely post anymore, mostly due to the ignorance of many of these juvinile talk backers (those who respond to this post negatively KNOW who I am refering to!). Too many rabble-rousers, always insulting everyone and everything, hiding behind these 'user id's'...Harry, have you ever visited the home theater forum? I think they have it right...you HAVE to use your real name, at least your first and an inital or your entire name, thus it becomes more personal. Now this doesn't keep every asshole out, but it does cut back, and with the aid of administrators, who regularly browse the posts, and can boot anyone not compling with the rules...sounds strict but it really opens it up to much friendlier chats and courtesy. Anyways, just a thought. Man, as an Okie, I sure hope J&SBSB gets played here!

  • July 4, 2001, 10:02 p.m. CST

    *sigh*

    by TheKellySisters

    I never have, nor will I ever, understand why people feel the need to actually take the time to read and even respond to articles on a website that they spend so much time trashing. I hardly ever post on here and I love this site. If you don't like Harry and what he does for you, then fuck off. We're better off without you. Someone was bound to respond to the completely ridiculous and unintelligent jibber-jabber that the people in these talkbacks have been posting for years. I'm just glad it was Kevin Smith because he IS the type of person to build an entire movie around that sort of specific joke. More power to him! Someone intelligent NEEDS to put your people in your places and I'm tired of trying to do it through talkbacks. You're all cynnical, arrogant, ignorant people who think that you know everything there is to know. But you're wrong, as usual. Keeping that attitude, which I'm guessing many of you have, as you are probably living out your pathetic lives at home with your folks, you will never succeed. You will fail in everything you do. You lives will be failures and embarassments. I know I'll get flamed for this, but what do I care? You people can all bite my ass because I'm better than you. Now eat it, Urkel. dante@the-projector.com

  • July 4, 2001, 10:17 p.m. CST

    The only ones getting mad over his Talkback Assholes thing ARE T

    by BooyotchtheOnly

  • July 4, 2001, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Oh Harry

    by ColonelBatGuano

    Terribly unfortunate comments indeed! And Kevin Smith SUCKS anyway...Clerks was marginally entertaining at best. Chasing Amy was basically an insult to women everywhere-Gay and straight- and Dogma...well, if I want to see ruminations on religion I'll stick to Casino and 2001. I'm very sure that had Kevin Smith and Tarantino et al had not sold their souls to the devil that they'd still be geek clerks or selling quarter bags of shake.

  • July 4, 2001, 10:39 p.m. CST

    There's a difference between constructive criticism and being a

    by Darth Ranik

    I don't realy need to explain myself do I?

  • because you don't want to get your asses beat. fuckin pricks.

  • because this way you can talk sh!t and still remain anonymous. that's not honest. you just don't want to get your asses. beat. why don't you learn to take some criticism. i'm guilty to and i can take it.

  • July 4, 2001, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Nong. Nong. Nong Nong Nong.

    by Ensign Pulver

    Glad to hear Harry liked JSBSB. I'm looking way forward to it; I'm in the middle of a big Kevin Smith kick right now, having just picked up the Dogma SE DVD and watched it over and over again. A tremendously funny flick and a great DVD (just too bad that some of the deleted stuff--the legendary Fat Albert sequence and the extended version of the conversation in Cardinal Glick's office--were funnier then much of what stayed in the film, just absolute fucking godhead... which is not to say that the stuff that did stay in wasn't great). I think JSBSB will rock; I agree that taking on TalkBackers is kind of a step or seven down after Chasing Amy and Dogma, but what the hell. KS says this is supposed to be the last View Askewniverse flick, and so I think it's cool that he's pulling out all the stops to give the fans a great final fling in his little world before moving on to something new and different. Bringing back Holden, Banky, Brodie, Randal, Dante, and a host of other VA characters--plus going all out on his trademark 'dick and fart jokes'--is the best way to do this. And gimme back my goddamn HAT!

  • July 4, 2001, 11:32 p.m. CST

    Guess I'm gonna tell you guys what Harry's been up to...

    by RyanEnder

    He's going to be an alien in MIB2.

  • July 4, 2001, 11:46 p.m. CST

    uh...yeah...

    by TruPhan

    um...kevin smith is the best, snootchie bootchies, some talkbackers are taking this review way too seriously, i'm sure that the movie isn't really completely about people on the internet, and harry - make a review that makes sense man. you're talking to us almost like we've seen the movie. you didn't say if the plot was interesting, you didn't give any highlights except for that the cameos were good, and the main focus of the whole article was how you think a movie applies to you. not that i don't appreciate you telling us that you enjoyed the film since it's better than nothing, but c'mon man, if you want your visitors to take you seriously then don't make a review to mouth them off. sure it doesn't apply to all of them, but still, a review isn't about people, a review is about a movie.

  • July 4, 2001, 11:48 p.m. CST

    uh...yeah...

    by TruPhan

    um...kevin smith is the best, snootchie bootchies, some talkbackers are taking this review way too seriously, i'm sure that the movie isn't really completely about people on the internet, and harry - make a review that makes sense man. you're talking to us almost like we've seen the movie. you didn't say if the plot was interesting, you didn't give any highlights except for that the cameos were good, and the main focus of the whole article was how you think a movie applies to you. not that i don't appreciate you telling us that you enjoyed the film since it's better than nothing, but c'mon man, if you want your visitors to take you seriously then don't make a review to mouth them off. sure it doesn't apply to all of them, but still, a review isn't about people, a review is about a movie.

  • July 4, 2001, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Poor definitions...

    by Phat_Cheops

    It doesn't sound, to me, like Smith is blasting ALL Talkbackers; just the whiny, bitchy, holier-than-thou ones who pop up in droves every time someone on here mentions the words "Star Wars", "LOTR", "Matrix 2", or "Spider Man". I seriously doubt Smith has anything against people offering valid criticism. Someone said earlier that filmmakers need to stop reacting to criticism so harshly and stop expecting to be treated delicately. I agree, but the converse is true. Obnoxious talkbackers (they really need a name) need to realize that turnabout is fair play, no one has to accept their word as the word of Film God, and, most importantly, they need to remember that often the harshest critics couldn't put together a film worth two shits (I point you toward Roger Ebert's lone screenplay-turned-film, "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"). Smith has fought back, according to Harry, in a funny, highly enjoyable manner. An obnoxious talkbacker's response would be "SMITH SUX ASSSS MALLRATS BLEW NUTTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" with a few more exclamations.

  • July 5, 2001, 12:02 a.m. CST

    name for abnoxious talkbackers

    by beastie

    taken from "the jerk". Shithead(s)

  • July 5, 2001, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith is a suburban ignorant

    by dima

    It`s greta when you make a movie like CLERKS when you have only a couple of buciks in your pocket. But if you keep making movies like CLERKS forever, it means that you can`t do anything straight. I loved Kevin Smith`s first three movies. Even MALLRATS were a peculiaer funny little flick, much better than DOGMA. But I`ve also read Kevin Smith`s SUPERMAN`s script and it sucks. I really understand Warner Bros` suits that didn`t want to shoot it. It was disgusting. Nobody has a right to diss talk-backers. Even if they may be rude, they are people who give some credibility to sites like AICN that are unable to confess that they`ve sold out. I also hope Harry will start writing some serious reviews again.

  • July 5, 2001, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Aw, shit, Harry! I contribute to the betterment of mankind thro

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    At least, I always thought so. At any rate, I'm not too sure what to think of the Big Knowles' review on this one seeing how he, too gets quite unprofessionally vitriolic when discussing movies sometimes. I mean, what if Freddie Prinze Jr decides to make a movie about loudmouthed online critics? How wonderful an idea would it be then? Whatever. Still, I can't wait to see Jay and Tons O' Fun Strike back. It's the one I've been most looking forward to for the whole year.

  • July 5, 2001, 2:11 a.m. CST

    And I always thought TBA meant 'To Be Announced'...`

    by vertigo93

    ...but honestly Harry, this smacks of the pot calling the kettle black. You've been responsible in your time for a fair portion of bile, destructive criticism and basic hate mail.

  • July 5, 2001, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Hey, great....

    by MCVamp

    Kevin Smith made a movie about an experience that 80% of America won't understand. At least we know he isn't in it for the money. And Harry, shame on you. Don't you bag on people who flame certain movies when you basically cursed Freddie Prinze Jr. to the 10th level of hell because he's going to play a character in a movie based on a TV show (Scooby Doo) which, to most people over age 12, SUCKS when viewed at any length in any form. I think Freddie Prinze Jr. is a shitty actor and I don't want him to play any characters I like either. But to diss ShitTalk Backers when you've spewed the same venom on numerous occasions? Make up your mind, Harvey Dent! I mean Jesus, are Quint & Father Geek the only guys that I can trust for these kinds of reviews/editorials?

  • July 5, 2001, 4:02 a.m. CST

    You silly bitches

    by Nisio

    What the hell is the big fuckin' deal. 'Oh no, Smithies gimpy talkbackers', so what do you all do? Prove hime right. Morons - tell your mothers it's not to late for an abortion.

  • July 5, 2001, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith is a very good director.

    by Munko

    I've loved almost all of his flicks so far. Clerks was excellent, Mallrats I thought sucked however (probably because this was Smith's first studio production), Chasing Amy I love, and Dogma is pretty good. So I'm pretty excited about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. And about the talkback stuff. I too have fell victim to immature posts made by morons who makes posts like this, "Fuck you...you suck cause you have a different opinion then me and I can't handle it cause I'm scared of other people and their believes...Fuck you...your a gaylord" and other such posts wich contain as much witty prose as a monkey fucking rock. But anywho...I always rub off those assholes when I meet them. Not getting to know hell rats like that is the best way to deal with them.

  • July 5, 2001, 4:18 a.m. CST

    First for the second time

    by Pimpin-Ken

  • July 5, 2001, 5:25 a.m. CST

    There are some good points, Harry...

    by George McFly

    Some others have mentioned exactly what I felt in reading your review. First off, I agree, there are a lot of assholes in Talkback and just about every other Internet forum out there. As a user of the Internet since the late 80's (when it was basically just text-based Usenet) these types of people have been around for years, and unfortunately they aren't going away. But the point brought up was this--you, Harry, have taken some pretty serious shots at various folk on your site over the years. It raises a very interesting question--where is the line crossed between your doing it and, say, someone in Talkback saying the same thing? As a long-time visitor to your site, I've come to appreciate your style of prose and reviews, but I've also noticed the times when you seem to step away from your normal approach to film and spew vehemently at a particular actor or director. And it's not an issue of whether or not they deserve it, it's one of a webmaster vs. Talkbacker kind of thing. Where is the line, and what constitutes crossing it? Interesting issues, indeed. Great review by the way, can't wait to see the film...McFly<--

  • July 5, 2001, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Hello Pot! This is the kettle....you're Black!

    by KNGSKL

    Maybe you've forgotton the ethos of your own web page Harry. I mean you have gave some scathing reviews in the past not just to films put to performers, writers , directors. you have been outlined in the worlds media as the guy who's website can determine the success of a film. Lets not forget Batman & Robin shall we.....so dont forget your roots. Yup truth hurts...but then these people get paid a lot of money and I'm sure it compensates for the shit they have to listen to...a bit of critical analysis. Kevin Smith Rules....Cant wait for JSBSB!!!!!

  • July 5, 2001, 5:35 a.m. CST

    I've created a monster

    by KNGSKL

    Dr Frankentalkback doesnt like his creation any more? By the way harry..Dogma rules..watch it.

  • July 5, 2001, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Ummm....Harry, are you sure this qualifies under AICN regulation

    by Fitzy Funk

    Seriously, man, not to get on your case too much and be a total dick (because that would add a much-too-thick layer of irony to the comment about smug talkbackers), but that was one of the worst reviews I've ever read. In my life. Anywhere. Seriously. The site has become popular enough over the years that I would think you would spend a little more time with your grammar, sentence/ paragraph structures, and just generally show some loose command of the written English language. You've been running this site long enough that you really don't have much of an excuse to write a review that says so little and takes so much time doing it. Tell us about the plot, characterization, connections to similarly-themed movies, how this relates to the rest of Smith's flicks instead of lingering on how much you related to it, or how much SEX you thought about while staring at Dushka's tatonkas. Oh yeah, and as for this movie, I'm starting to have some serious doubts. While I'm relieved to see this is KS's last View Askew production, if the real focus of this flick is just on the internet culture (something that all of the promotional material up until this point has failed to even HINT at), I honestly think it's a bit of a cinematic dead-end. Then again, I'm not sure about Smith. Given the circumstances, I regard Clerks as a minor masterpiece and Chasing Amy as a flawed ambitious film about relationships. As for Dogma, I thought it was just sort of stuck in a familiar purgatory - not entertaining enough to enjoy, and not nearly deep enough to respect. The Last Temptation of Christ was a MUCH richer and passionate look at the contradictions that lie at the core of Catholicism. Mallrats? Please...that movie (the terrifically talented Jason Lee excepted) was pathetic.

  • July 5, 2001, 6:20 a.m. CST

    2 sense

    by Mel Garga

    Watching KS films is sometimes like watching the Simpsons for me. Many times I forget to laugh because I'm just impressed with my own ability to get the references. I really look forward to JASBSB.

  • July 5, 2001, 6:46 a.m. CST

    kevin smith is a great filmmaker, but...

    by JoeStokowski

    he's gotta stop doing these jay and silent bob flicks. they're tired. try your hand at a psychological thriller. a psycholgical thriller from kevin smith.. it's gold!! and weezer rocks. =w=

  • July 5, 2001, 7:16 a.m. CST

    grow up you dipshits

    by HypnoToad

    Oh, you morons calling Harry a hypocrit, get off it. Someone earlier said the only ones griping about Harry calling certain talkbackers assholes are those same assholes. You couldn't be more accurate. You know what it really is? It's jealousy. These fucks that have a problem with Harry, a problem with every review, a problem with the spoilers, a general attitude problem, and a problem with every movie they've seen are just jealous. They feel cheated, as though god or the universe or joe pesci were all conspiring against them. Grow the fuck up you childish limpdicked dipshits. If you fucking want more in life, then goddammit, go get it. Stop posting bullshit to the talkbalks and write that amazing screenplay. Let's see if you can do any better than Kevin Smith. Stop criticizing Harry and stop coming to AICN if all you can do is bitch and moan about it, and do something with your fucking lives. Get out of your parent's basement and do something constructive. I can't imagine that I'm the only one tired of reading substance-free talkback rants about the size of Harry's ass and his insistance on spelling no one as one word. Here's a tip I learned from Doctor Denis Leary: "Shut the fuck up." Thank you.

  • July 5, 2001, 7:51 a.m. CST

    uh

    by semuta

    fuck all the talk-backers. fuck them up their stupid asses.

  • July 5, 2001, 8:08 a.m. CST

    maybe you should take your own advice Mr Bloom

    by sundown

    I've flamed movies and people the SAME WAY Harry has you ass kissing twirp. Harry is a hypocrite...hypocrite with an e and e a fricken e look the damn word up, its like talkbackers favorite word- just look it up for Christs sake. Oh and by the way you're a hypocrite too for talkbacking and flaming. I live in my own apartment in NYC SO who's living in a basement? Nine times out of ten its the guy pointing fingers who dealt it. Harry has this section for people to express their thoughts if that gets in your way of landing a job doing a column here then too fricken bad. I suggest you take Learys advice and get to the back of the bus with the other shiney happy people. As a proud consumer in America I have crap pushed on me every day of the week and here we get to bitch about (JUST LIKE LEARY DOES!!!) what we like that others hate and what we hate. Thats not an opinion thats a fact and if you or anyone else doesn't like it close up shop and leave. I'm here to "tell it like it is" not make friends. I "shoot from the hip" and blah blah blah. Fact is we are all opinionated freaks but thats life. If Kevin Smith wants to make a movie about it he should show himself for the slob he is. Hell it doesn't matter no one or noone as Harry lovingly says will see this shitty movie anyway. Well I'm off ot begin preparations to nuke the set of Minority Report...who's comin with me????

  • July 5, 2001, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Thank you, Leo Bloom.

    by frodo_a_gogo

    As an occassional observer and participant of Talk Back, to all of you who have nothing intelligent to say (or don't like or agree with the reviews), don't come here anymore. As for the comment about Harry being an 'ingrate' by dissing those that diss him, I think that he's much more of a human being and less of a clockwork orange like you offended ones out there. After all, he's retorting against your shit instead of just sitting there while you kick harder. By the way, I'm not being as anonymous as the many offended ones at this forum, as this handle is the one I use EVERYWHERE. I'd rather not post my actual name as I am a female and have been stalked before.

  • July 5, 2001, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Smith is still overrated, and Harry's still a shill

    by Drunkenfist

    Wow. Great. Kevin makes a film cracking back on those who dare to criticize him in terms he doesn't like, and uber-shill Harry gets his extra large panties all in a happy bunch about it. You guys can blow each other all you want, but it won't change the following two facts: 1. Kevin Smith cannot write characters. Sure - Jason Mewes is hilarious, and the Jay character has saved every Kevin Smith film ever made from being rental-store fodder. Besides Jay - every Kevin Smith character sounds like every other Kevin Smith character. Their dialogue and speaking style are almost always completely interchangeable. Smith can write, he's just wildly overrated. 2. Harry is a shill. Put him anywhere near a project, and you're guaranteed a tongue down the back of your trousers. This is the guy who gave "Blair Witch 2" a glowing review (after being wined and dined by Artisan). This is the guy who is going to drool over "Ghosts of Mars" - even if it sucks. Harry's an insider now, and he's for sale. He's like that critic that Sony made up, except he's real, and he can't spell. Ok. There ya go. A dissenting opinion sans profanity.

  • July 5, 2001, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Hey, Dante The Projector, Whoever You Are, You Got A Problem Wit

    by Buzz Maverik

    Dante. You must really like Kevin Smith. I like him too. I like his films and comics. But I think for myself. I don't name myself after a character in someone's movie. And here's the deal, asshole. No one knows who anyone is here. You could be fuckin' Jeffrey Katzenberg (although I somehow doubt it). For all you know, any one of us could BE Kevin Smith, the man you looove, so why don't you go out and grow yourself your own identity? -- You have just seen a model for our friends Harry and Kevin. Guys, what this little girl wrote me about myself doesn't but me...but I'm not gonna take it. If it bugs you that much, answer the jerk in a public forum.

  • forget about whiney bitches posting here I think most people posting around here are posting from their hospital rooms computer as the sit restrained in a bed in the looney ward!!! "I'd rather not post my actual name as I am a female and have been stalked before." HELLO!!!! Can you say psycho? I know you can. We all know most females who post on sites like this look like a cross between Ethyl Merman and the guy from the Hills Have Eyes so as the term goes...get ovah yaself sistah! As far as the clockwork orange comment- this from a woman who doesn't want anyone posting who disagrees with Harry. Well guess what? As long as Harry keeps a forum open I won't kick him or spew vomit like a child but I will critique and make jokes and as long as he leaves himself open to it 'kitten' there is precious little you can do about it. But we know Harry loves the money from the traffic we give him so maybe he should just get used to it and fight instead of whining. "Oh finally someone is getting back the little guy cause hollywood is so poor and defenseless!" PUUUHLLLEASSSSEE!!! All of you Harryzombies just keep marching off that cliff or into theaters for Charlies Angels 2 to go look at the swirling magical ass (yeah I'll take him seriously!) clockwork oranges indeed!!!! and by the way I have been posting under this name for years on this site and people know me...sadly no one or noone as Harry says has ever stalked me but I have gotten death threats from Michael Jackson fans for saying we should strap him in an electric chair and "film a pepsi commercial" and Kevin Smith fans for saying Dogma sucked which it did- REALLY BAD. PS- Smith can write ok stuff occasionally but more often than not it ends up being banal and I can shoot better action sequences with a camera in my tucus! So if the smith fanboy freak wants to email someone he can email me. "snoogans"

  • July 5, 2001, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Goddamn, This Is Priceless!

    by mrbeaks

    I'll give you one guess who's thin-skinned in this scenario, and it ain't Kevin Smith or Harry. And why in the fuck do you feel the need to complain in the first place? You're anonymous! The only consequences you face for your silly little posts are a stinging retort posted below yours, or a vituperating email fired off to a Hotmail/Yahoo account that you probably don't check in the first place. So Kevin Smith finally shot back, using a medium many of you will never be able to harness due to your own pathetic listlessness, and now you're crying foul? Take it like a man, and clam up. Or, in the grand tradition of flaming, fire off a witty comeback sans the whiney tone. That is, if you're capable.

  • I find it funny as hell that ANYONE can have their feelings hurt by some semi-literate fool with a keyboard. And I am a little skeptical that bigtime Hollywood-types waste their time reading Talk Backs, but if its true I want Jerry Bruckheimer to know that I would like to kick him in the nuts until his eyes start bleeding.

  • July 5, 2001, 10:11 a.m. CST

    I Like All Of Kevin Smith's Stuff, And Even Though I've Never Sa

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...he agrees to produce my writing-directing debut A VISA FOR ALISTAIR (which is not about credit cards as my good friend and mentor Sleazy G. suggested). We use Kevin's clout to get the movie made. He gets me Alan Rickman for Crowley, Afflek for Parsons, Damon for Hubbard, and this Eliza chick for the role of Babalon (Linda Fiorentino would be better if she were 10-20 years younger but what're ya gonna do?). Jay and Silent Bob make cameos in the orgy scene which I will shoot on the first day to freak out the actors and so all I will have to do is yell "Action!" then "Cut! Cut! Goddamit! I said cut! Eriglione, turn the fire hoses on 'em!"

  • July 5, 2001, 10:21 a.m. CST

    thin-skinned

    by JonQuixote

    I don't think the issue here is what Kevin Smith did. For one, I think it's pretty unrealistic that this movie's entire point and celluloid existence is devoted to what Harry claims. The issue is that the Harry is shitting on the talkbacks - the bread and butter of this site. Now if he wants to make a distinction between a talkbacker like Lightstormer or Buzz Maverik who puts thought into their post, and some dweeb who logs on and types "fatty fucking fat fuck fuck", that's fine. But he, at least initially, did not, and when that lack of distinction is combined with the high-and-mighty attitude that is occasionally present, it is going to rub some people the wrong way.*** As far as hypocrisy goes, Harry has done his fair share of "fuckity fuck fuck" type flaming...search for Scooby Doo and see. Now, I don't think there is a problem with that. I don't think it's the brightest approach to take, and one I try to avoid, but there's nothing really wrong with doing so. But to do it, and then criticize those who also do it, is hypocrisy. Of course, there's the possibility that the movie is a shot not only at Asshole TalkBackers, but Asshole WebWriters too...or is Kevin Smith making the distinction between guys who log on here and shit, or guys that run websites like moviepoopchute.com and shit? While Kevin gets along with Harry, that doesn't mean that the same movie viewed through the eyes of a Paul Anderson wouldn't be just as relevent in dissing Mr. Knowles as it is in dissing the talkbackers. The only difference between the two is venue and opportunity...the similarity that made this site what it is, and the similarity is what Harry seems to have forgotten.

  • July 5, 2001, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Anonymity and Credibility

    by JonQuixote

    I've noticed that the talk about anonymity here is viewed as a strength. That any anonymous somebody can just show up and, under veil of anonymity, talk shit, insult, and hurt. My response: WHAT THE FUCK??? How is anonymity anything but a weakness? Some anonymous person logs on and doesn't like what I have to say here, let alone if I make a movie, and I'm supposed to be bothered by it. When someone anonymously makes comments like the way I do here, who the fuck cares what I say, because in the context of the talkback I AM NOT A PERSON. I don't even qualify...because nothing about me, actual me, is apparent, other than my ability to use words, and any argument I may craft. I guarantee you, one bad Roger Ebert review of your movie is going to hurt worse than a thousand flaming talkbacks that call your mother a crackwhore...because Ebert is a person. An anonymous internet comment is nothing more than temporary graffitti, and these Asshole Talkbackers have even less to say, because of the lack of presentation and credible argument found in their words.

  • July 5, 2001, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Ok, one more point and I'm out

    by JonQuixote

    More food for thought. If Harry had disliked _Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back_ considering all the inside information KS passed on, and the fairly chummy relationship between Smith and this site, would Harry had said so in his review? If he found it unfunny, and amateurish, and irrelevant...would his "review" say so? And if not, which is worse...an honest reaction that is unkind, or a lie?

  • July 5, 2001, 10:43 a.m. CST

    TalkTrashers...

    by McBane

    Its that time of the year again. When McBane feels that he has to post something, in response to a Talkback he feels strongly about. But first some background. I have been on this site every few days, for the last two years. It took me about a year not to get bothered by some of the shit I had the misfortune to read under the sections called "Talkback". Talktrash I feel, is sometimes more appropriate a term. But like the Good Liberal I am, I recognise both sides of the argument that people have been discussing, since this sites' conception. Are the whiney, pathetic fuckwits who insist on using every talkback as an excuse to practise the fluency of their flamming, a good thing for AICN? Do they bring any additional value to a pretty kick ass site or do they drag it deeper into a tainted mire of insults, fanboy obsessions with getting laid and the insane ramblings of people whose only contact with the "world" seems to be through ADSL. I have to be honest. Like everyone here, part of the fun of coming here is listening to some nob goblin slag off the suits, the directors, the writers, the actors... ANYBODY to blame a film for being shit. Especially if it hasn't even been made yet! What is even MORE entertaining, is when your average poster (lets call him "Darth_Ass") who has been saying that a big blockbuster film (called "heX-Men" for example) is gonna suck more than his 13 year old sister, suddenly receives an epiphany come opening weekend that the film is the best film ever and he always said so. But then I have always found people entertaining. Yet I understand why Harry might get pissed off at Talkbackers and take it personally. So pissed off in fact, that he decides to hijack a review for my most eagerly awaited film of this year, to almost launch his own personal attack on these TALKTRASHERS. But can you blame him? As the most... err.. VISIBLE member of this site, he gets the most stick. Friendly banter is OK, so is just criticism. But when people start calling you a "Fat, sellout shit brick who has as much journalistic integrity as A Microsoft Technical Author...", and then begin to rant about your sex life, family, lack of ability etc... and start playing "lets guess how much the fat shit weighs", even after all these years, it must still piss you off. So Harry and those that help run the site have banned people and deleted talk backs for "no apparent" reason. Big fucking deal. I would have removed alot of the nastier shit aimed at their collective persons, if I was running this site. After all, they don't have to explain themselves to anyone. Anyone bothered to read the disclaimer rather obviously placed on the right hand side of the TalkBack Post Page? And what about all this Journalistic Integrity bollocks? I am sorry. If Mr Suit A from the Mega Studio Prissney wants to fly me to NYC so I can watch their shitty new film, I would say yes. Why the fuck not. The mere fact that Moriarty and Harry are honest enough to mention WHEN they get all expense paid advance screenings, allows us to take their "reviews" and adjust our expectations accordingly. Oh and If I wanted, "proper" Movie Revies with perfect Grammar (Americans take note) and spelling, I'll buy TV Weekly and listen to some 60 year old fart harken back to the "golden days" of cinema. So with all this in mind, it is pretty obvious why Harry was filled with glee at the thought of these Talk Trashers beiong paradied in a film, by a director who I believe, pretty much reflects the kind of tone on this site. You don't believe me? Watch the two net trailers. The second one especially gives clues as to the frenzied self referntial parody that we are in for. Kevin Smith is still a long way from fulfilling his potential, the flashes of brilliance seen in Clerks an indication of the begginings of a great film maker. The Dialogue in Clerks is mind blowing. The Jokes Painfully funny. [A good type of pain. Like S&M :) ] But whether or not u appreciate his skills, he is popular. I like his work. Even now Jokes from his collective films make me smile. But fuck, this is a talk back. I can't be nice. Or unbalanced. Errrr... Fuck Jay and Silent Bob. Fuck Kevin Smith. Fuck Harry, Moriarty, Mysterio, Quint, Sister Satan, Elstun Gunn, Bimbo Baggins, Alexandra duPont. In fact fuck anybody reading this. FUCK. THE. WORLD --McBain Out

  • July 5, 2001, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Sleazy G

    by mrbeaks

    Harry made his name w/ this site a good year or so before he added the talkbacks. True, they've added an interesting, intermittently amusing, if often frustrating dimension to the site, but I'm confident AICN would chug along without them. Don't overstate your importance here, folks. I enjoy the forum myself, and I'd hate to see it go, but let's be realistic. Think about all of the hits this site receives, and then take a look at the number of posts under this story. 'Tis but a fraction of the overall traffic coming through AICN.

  • July 5, 2001, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Ahoy there, Buzz 'ol chap! Having problems with this Projector f

    by user id indeed!

    He seems to be a rather angry little fella, don't he? I find it ironic that we're having a little fun and making some pals, and he seems to have no purpose here other than to email people and tell them how much he hates them, and HE'S calling US "meaningless"! Pfff! I wonder how many other people this guy's emailing. He needs some poon and Pop-tarts, boy, I'll tell ya. He'll live longer once he gets his blood pressure down and that stick outta his ass. This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! Also, the-projector.com really ain't that much to look at. But hey, if he's better than us based on his web site vs. our website, that ValueWeb ad must be a pretty damned good one.

  • July 5, 2001, 11 a.m. CST

    The Value Of Anonymity.

    by Buzz Maverik

    Most of us here are obvious not in the film bidness, and couldn't get anywhere near it without someone hiring Gavin DeBecker to keep us away. But have you ever talked to someone in the lower echelon of production? The last conversation I had contained them say phrases like ,"MONEY TRAIN? I really liked MONEY TRAIN. That Doug Richardson's a good writer." (The MONEY TRAIN thing shows exactly how long it's been since I've talked to anyone remotely connected with filmmaking; MONEY TRAIN had just been out that week and those are the only movies these clowns know. I mentioned PELHAM 1-2-3 as a superior subway crime movie and got a blank look until I explained that that was the movie where Tarantino got the idea of calling his crooks names like Mr. Mauve, Mr. Magenta, Mr. Chartruse, Mr. Indigo). And me saying (like Jack Black in HIGH FIDELITY):"You didn't like MONEY TRAIN. No one liked MONEY TRAIN. Wesley Snipe's Mama didn't even like MONEY TRAIN. You don't have to say you like it because I don't fucking know anyone connected with MONEY TRAIN and I'm not going to fucking tell them you didn't like it and why should you be afraid to say it?" But they are afraid. If you ever meet 'em, they're all scared to death. Even if you don't meet 'em, read about the modern Industry. It's all based on fear. Some jackoff called Bicycle Bob called me bitter in my last anti-industry rant, but if he'd ever talked to anyone there or if he'd read anything besides the Lucasfilm brochure, he'd know that the bigger they are the bigger their bitterness (okay, Spielberg and Lucas probably aren't bitter, but have ya ever heard of Scott Rudin? Great producer, makes really good movies. His picture is in the dictionary under bitterness. Or so they say. Like I'd really fuckin' know Scott Rudin, like I'd be here if I knew Scott Rudin; okay so maybe I would). So it's cool when every now and then we read a talkback from someone inside. As for myself and anonymity, not that this is ever gonna happen, but if I ever do anything in the Bidness it will be as Buzz Maverik. My secret identity is sort of a nice guy type, but ol' Buzz is a real asshole, y' know? My kind of asshole. Your kind of asshole! An asshole for the people. We're geeks, right? Well, the Peter Parker-Clark Kent-Bruce Banner side of me would get dumped on by development-flit # 4, while Buzz and Scott would get into a screaming match that would bring out the SWAT team and we'd end up with a deal. The moral of this story is: produce my movies and you'll know who I am!

  • July 5, 2001, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Bitch, bitch, bitch,.....whine, whine, whine

    by Fatal Discharge

    The problem with this site is that when people do post intelligent commentary on film they're ignored. The only way to get anyone to respond to your posts is to slam someone or their opinion. Although I do find some of the posts very funny and/or entertaining, I have to wade through loads of childish and repugnant crap to find it. Why do I come back to AICN? Because it is a great site for info on upcoming films. The IMDB message boards are much more intelligent but don't offer much on upcoming films. As for Kevin Smith, I really liked Clerks and Chasing Amy was a good combo of funny and touching moments. However, Mall Rats and Dogma were quite forgettable...good thing you didn't see them Harry. Kevin Smith's weakness is making a plot arch that carries the characters from the start to finish (Chasing Amy being the most successful one). His films often feel like forced joke setups strung together. From the sounds of it, JASBSB doesn't seem like any improvement on this.

  • anyone notice the stupid ass network solutions pop up? Well being privey to WWF revenue as I am (Hell its all on the web) I recently found out that due to declining e-ad rates across the board (Probably money they will pay per hit) even though the wwf site does monster traffic still the paycheck they get is going down quicker than my 12 year old sister. In any case I bet this has to hurt Harry too thus the pop ups. IN any event even with a decent amount of hits you think Harry would have time and money for ventures like a TV show if he had a mere mortals web site. Don't see Garth doin that do ya? I'm sure this site will keep Harry in ho hos but will it reel int he big bucks without talkbacks? I bet if Harry could afford it he would have got rid of us! Point is while we don't account for original hits the 200 or 300 or more posters a day come back 5 to 10 times so you do the math and figure out just how much traffic we exponentially add. Make no mistake the talkbacks are HIT GENERATORS otherwise I could read Harry's two second newsbites and be gone in an instant. Instead I'm stuck here for an hour reading and writing to you monkeys. That accounts for a ton of time spent here for all of us. I'm not saying Harry shouldn't fight back but he has no rapport with us and doesn't seem to care too. He throws us a bone (I guess a FEW are a'ight) but overall his disgust at us seeps on through. I can't say I wouldn't be bitter if I had people calling me a fat slob on my own site 24-7 but Baba Booey made his money by being called a monkey and while he didn;t like it it kept him in showbiz. He and Harry have one thing in common though...they bring it on themselves!!! Come on all these stories about his life and kitten he spreads his legs and practically asks these assholes to kick fieldgoals! Bottom line is I come here for the Buffy news! See you in the Buffy talkbacks Sleazy G where I'll dance like a monkey to help your pathetic day go by...PS obscure movie of the day 'Victory' starring Michael Caine, Stallone and Pele...hope I spelt that right.

  • July 5, 2001, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Talkback: It's everywhere you want to be.

    by rabid_republican

    Well, all too predictably, Harry's comments on talk backers have produced the same pattern in the talback. I wish I could discuss Harry's "review" of the film JASBSB, but there seems little to discuss, in that context, save arguing the finer points of how we spray our collective vitriol on the net. So, what about the film then?+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kevin Smith, between his "flashes of brillance" as he was described here and elswhere, is an inconsistent film maker, with alot of road left to hoe. His record is somewhat pock-marked, but I have even enjoyed his misses, like "Mallrats" and "Dogma". I'll see JASBSB because I love the ViewAskew Universe characters. I'm also looking forward to seeing whether Smith has progressed in moving a camera.

  • July 5, 2001, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Talk Back Aholes and Kevin Smith and Roly Poly Harry

    by BiffSpittOff

    Right on Harry! Right on, Right on Kevin! I've been visiting this site every day for years and now was the very first time I've felt compelled to "Talk Back" as it were. This site has the power to create but also to destroy. The create part of it comes from Harry and his loyal network of geeks who keep my brain full of all of these amusing facts and tidbits that I cant get enough of. More power to Kevin and I'll be in line with everyone else to see JASBSB simply because I am a FAN! Kevin Smith could remake Ishtar and I would go see it. As for all of you "Talk Back Assholes" that this movie is dedicated to: Maybe now you'll shut the hell up and actually SEE a movie before you rip it to hell! (ie: Spider-Man) Harry: Keep on truckin!!!! -Biff

  • July 5, 2001, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I love the irony

    by pedant

    Harry and Kevin Smith thumbing their nose at people who talk shit, when they themselves are a couple of the biggest shit-talkers this side of Joss Whedon. Harry, try to look at this in terms of cosmic harmony. For every shit-talking asshole talkbacker who pisses you off, there is a corresponding ass-licking sycophant who pisses ME off. I for one am glad that there are people working to keep egos like yours and Kevin's in check. Yes, in an ideal world, talkbackers would all be more sober and reasonable in their criticism -- but as long as there are people who call Kevin Smith a "God", and claim that he is the greatest filmmaker of all time (and I'm not exaggerating... people actually say this), we need others to restore balance to the cosmos by telling him that he's an untalented fucknut who should have his dick bitten off. For example.

  • July 5, 2001, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Good one, Harry

    by MissPiss

    Harry has played a little joke on you Talk Backers. I can't believe you bought it! :-) Hasn't anyone else read the IMDB plot summary and thought, "Waitaminute..."

  • July 5, 2001, 1:17 p.m. CST

    The Difference

    by mrbeaks

    When Harry and Kevin talk shit, they can be held publicly accountable because they aren't shielded by a nom de plume; however, whenever one of the aforementioned punks spouts off, there's only an anonymous Yahoo/Hotmail account. Granted, I use a pseudonym as well, but I'm not the one making mean-spirited, borderline libelous statements. And while Harry is happy to see his detractors get put through the wringer on this one occassion, I think you'd have to agree that he normally bears the slings and arrows with fairly remarkable composure.

  • July 5, 2001, 1:35 p.m. CST

    About f***ing time

    by CVizaViz

    I think its great that TBA's are getting a little payback. I cannot wait for Jay and Silent Bob. You should go rent Mallrats and Dogma. You will learn to love them. Harry, are you gonna write a review of Jeepers Creepers? I saw the trailer for it and, as cheesey as it seems, I think its got some classic horror potential.

  • July 5, 2001, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Dogma's his best, Mallrats his funniest

    by Robertblood

    I recently read on some talkback how they thought the acting in Dogma sucked. I can only say that the people who say that have never acted, nor have directed actors. They are parrots repeating criticisms levelled at Smith from day one. I admit the acting in Clerks is lacking, but that's because those guys were just his buddies and even then, as someone who has made numerous films using their friends, Clerks is a great accomplishment in getting friends to at least pull off some believablity. I can't wait for "Strike Back"! I just hope Smith gives up on the physical slapstick which weighed down Mallrats.

  • July 5, 2001, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Haven't seen Dogma!!!

    by frohike131

    Harry man, I agree that Chasing amy kicked ass, but you need to see Dogma. I can't wait to see Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, but Jay is awesome in Dogma. You need to get htat special edition today man.

  • July 5, 2001, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Talkbackers.

    by Lobanhaki

    Harry has shown incredible patience with people who exemplify the worst aspects of the what the anonymity and accessibility of the internet provides. Have any of you seen those Fox Sports Channel ads where those people make obnoxious comments to other people's faces, the ones that are used to advertise for a particular host and his brand of "Brutal Honesty"? That's the impression I get of some talkbackers. Bluntness is one thing. Harry was being blunt. Malice? That's something different. But, evidently, Harry puts up with it, since many of the creep's posts remain up.

  • July 5, 2001, 4:20 p.m. CST

    My name is mud, and I derserive it.

    by Jimmy 555

    Last year I wrote the good guys at View Askiew a very bad letter after having a very bad day when I found out that the "Dogma Special Editon" was being put back at a later date. I wrote some pretty nasty things toward Kevin Smith and the next day I wrote an apology letter. Well to my bad judgment I got a lot of threat letters and death threats and righty so I deserved them. They printed the bad letter at the Viwe Askew forum and I never heard any thing of the apology letter or E-mail. Oh well, I did a dumb thing and again say how sorry I am to all I offended and made angry especialy to Mr Keven Smith himself. Please forgive me if you can, and if not I understand.

  • July 5, 2001, 4:37 p.m. CST

    A difference that makes no difference is no difference

    by pedant

    Held accountable in what way, and by whom? Does the fact that Kevin Smith used his real name to slam Magnolia make the impact of the words any less? No. In fact, I think it maked the impact more severe, because 1) a random anonymous voice is more likely to go unnoticed than the words of a celebrity, and 2) it's easier to brush off anonymous comments than it is to ignore what your colleagues are saying about you.

  • July 5, 2001, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Allow Me To Introduce Myself...

    by NoTime4LoveDrJ

    This is my first post. I am a newcomer to this site... I have only been privy to its existence for the past few days. Before I say what I have to say, let me note that I am not hiding behind a little-used E-Mail address... It's my shitty AOL one, which is the only one I have, and it is checked every day. Would everyone prefer that I give you my full name, address, and Social Security Number before I express my opinion? And which one of the "mature" people who come here would really attempt to kick my ass because my opinion might differ from their own? Surprisingly, quite a few of you seem to be partial to that course of action, or, at least, enough to play it off like you would, if you knew who or where I am. I am not hiding. If someone wants to "be a man" by threatening another person because of a difference in opinion, then, by all means, do ask me where I am. In fact, I'll tell you. Florida. I implore you to borrow your mother's SUV and drive it all the way down here from Kentucky, or wherever the hell you come from, just to beat your views into my face. Now that I have let out that small amount of my frustration, on to the point. Since you're all "film buffs" you will recognize my User I.D. as either a line from an Indiana Jones film, or the Kevin Smith movie, "Clerks". It is derived, in this case, from the latter. "Clerks" is among my favorite films. Not that you care about that, but, hey, I'm the one talking back, aren't I? It is a great movie, in my opinion, but I will not go so far as to say that it was "wildly inventive" or anything of the sort. It's something that could have been done by any fresh-out-of-college-with-the-money-he's-saved-over-the-years-buying-ramen-noodles person with any ounce of creativity. Now, believe it or not, EVERYONE has creativity. So, suffice it to say that anyone could have made that movie, under the same circumstances. It isn't like it was a masterpiece. Nor was "Mallrats", "Chasing Amy", or "Dogma"... In fact, "Mallrats" to me came across as the catalyst for all of the movies of the past few years that have catered to tenny-boppers... "She's All That", for example. Oh my, a Freddie Prinze, Jr. reference! I was not here to see that attack on the poor man's character, whatever it was, but I don't really give a shit. "Chasing Amy" was the strongest of the movies he has made so far, being that it dealt with a topic with more depth than kids winning back their ex-girlfriends, or two guys in a video store and a convenience store. Unfortunately, this movie also had the scourge of the Kevin Smith universe, Jay And Silent Bob. Two highly overrated characters placed in his films for comic relief, and sometimes, insight. "Dogma" dealt with one of my favorite topics, just brimming with inconsistency and hypocrisy... religion. A good film, but it was lacking in the overall charm the other movies possessed. And now, I will go see "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back" on opening night... But I will only do it for Dante, Randal, and Brodie... Jason Lee singlehandedly saved "Mallrats". He is, in my humble opinion, one of the most talented actors I know of. But the true gist of this post is that Kevin Smith is not a God. He is not a Jesus. He is not a priest. He isn't even a fucking churchgoer, in terms of the hierarchy of the basic religion, Christianity. He is incredibly overrated. He may be able to write, direct, and what have you, but he is, by no means, as good as he is made out to be. I love his work, not him... And my love for his work isn't of the sort that I aspire to be him, or like him. And, by the way, to all of the people who have to take cheap shots at the age of "asshole talkbackers", this asshole who just expressed his opinion is only 16. Ta-ta!

  • July 5, 2001, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Help Me...!

    by NoTime4LoveDrJ

    My first post, and already it has been lost in the mires of this huge page... So I suggest people go look for it... Not that my opinion is important, but, remember, if you find it to differ from yours, you can have a fun twenty minutes thinking of just the right inflammatory comments to make! You can call me all sorts of names when you don't know anything about me! So look, I urge you to...

  • July 5, 2001, 6:42 p.m. CST

    sundown went down on a 42nd street whore, huh? yeah!

    by HypnoToad

    hey asspony, listen up. when you get off your little online, anonymous powertrip, maybe you'll realize you really are just a fucking loser. nobody owes you fucking anything. if you haven't seen the movie, you can't really bitch about it, can you? a lot like all the fucking people who bitch about how the country is run and yet they don't even fucking vote. get a goddamn grip. sundown, hmmm, isn't that the term for what happens to alzheimer's patients in the afternoon? hmmm. not really surprised, maybe it explains your attitude a little. forget that you're a nobody? Harry provides a wonderful service for everyone here and he does it at no fucking cost to you. You, and so many of these other cynical, bitchboy fuckwads can take a moment every once in a while and thank the big guy. How hard is that?

  • July 5, 2001, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Uh, Harry, yeah, you forgot to put the "M" in the middle of the

    by Bill Maher

    Actually, you can't take anything from all directions. (Although is there a better direction to attack you from?) See, I don't ban people on my show. I don't sick any of my henchmen on our guests. You are the duplictous, double-chinned (I'm being easy on you here, okay?) supervillian that sits in his lair, with his back to the entrance, watching out his window at the 'fools' below. Then he presses a button (not the one that alerts Domino's, the other one)and whimsically eliminates those that are closest to resembling a threat. Someone in this TalkBack (one of your "assholes", undoubtedly)mentioned "Baba Booey", otherwise known as Gary Dell'Abate. You know why a guy called a monkey on a regular basis is still ahead of you on the entertainment evolutionary scale? Well, besides not fantasizing about felines, he realizes his place and openly defers to his "bofth" (boss). You, on the other hand, won't even cop to one lousy studio bed partner. Look, I don't know what the fuck Kevin Smith's problem is, but it sounds like *you* are trying to exacting the punishment for your sins on the people that are furthest from the scene of the crime. Good night, Harry.

  • July 5, 2001, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Simple solution Harry, erase the talkback section, problem solve

    by JackBurton

    Oh yeah, thats right, your site hits would drop by 90% if you did that. After all it's not really the level or quality of news on this site that keeps people coming back these days, is it? Still, what do I know, I'm just another anonymous asshole. :-)

  • July 5, 2001, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Yeah, uh, A.I, sucks, fockers.

    by Nitz

    This isn't going to be about Jay and Silent Bob. I saw AI at a matinee with my gf last week, cause she's a Spieldberg buff, and what the fuck happened here? I mean, goddamn, this shit is horrible. Jude Law should've fucking took a year off or something. And I have a feeling, Haley Joel Osment is probably going to be calling Bruce Fucking Willis real goddamn shit. This movie was two and a half hours of Spieldberg trying to make E.T. I mean, is this fucker gonna be legit, like with Private Ryan, or is he gonna be a fucking sell out like with this and E.T, and Jurassic Park. He really should make up his mind if he wants to be a serious filmaker or if he wants to direct Dr. Doolittle 3.

  • July 5, 2001, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Is it true...

    by Manhoganistic

    that this will be the last of Smithie-boy's movies with Jay and Bob? Dear god, I can't wait to see if he can come up with an original idea! Let him rip on PTA all he wants...at least PTA can come up with imaginative stories (and at the same direct them showing above sitcom style and direction). I love the idea of Smith ripping on internet "geeks". I guess he doesn't realize that those are his entire audience. Fuck that bearded bastard and his mullet-having sidekick. If you can't take the heat, Kev, get outta the kitchen.

  • July 5, 2001, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Hate Harry?

    by Andy_Christ

    If you want quality, it's still to be found here. Moriarty seems to be somewhat intelligent, at least, and has more than two modes (like harry's "cooooooool!" spunking in his moomoo excited mode, and his piss all over the movie, the director, and everyone involved mode)

  • July 5, 2001, 8:56 p.m. CST

    take it easy

    by shaya24

    I think you really need to calm down.Isn't the point of the talkbacks to express opinions no matter how retarded.They maybe stupid but they make me laugh.And besides the talkbacks are the best thing here.

  • July 5, 2001, 9:20 p.m. CST

    THE ULTIMATE TALK BACK

    by OperaMan

    this fucking sucks ass: PTA fuck MAGNOLIA up its stupid,4 hr bloated ass! Chasing Amy! I love KS but this movie FUCKIN SUCKED! i mean, COME ON! people who hate KS and love PTA: fuck you bitches! Fast and the shittyous: SHIT SHIT SHIT! and SHIT! i hated it! MIchelle Rodriquez was a babe though, I got a hard-on just looking at her, and I sprayed my pants when Jordanna Brewster was ever onscreen. EVYETHING ELSE FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!! this stuff ruless: the other PA. he kicks ass. MK was the greatest film of all time, and Event Horizon was the bomb diggity. SOLDIER was a fucking dildo of a film, but cmon, all filmakers have their bad movies. JASBSB: this movie will fucking rock Evolution: quite a surprise, i laughed my ass off. in conclusion FUCK PTA FUCK EVERYTHING FUCK STUPID TALK BACKERS AND FUCK EVERYTHING FUCK IT ALL FUCK THIS WORLD FUCK EVERYTHING YOU STAND FOR DONT BELONG DONT EXIST DONT GIVE A SHIT DONT EVER JUDGE! PS: im trying to get banned here in the immortal words of BLINK 182: SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER TITS FART TURD AND TWAT JORDANNA BREWSTER IS A FUCKING BABE! ID LIKE TO FUCK HER IN HER PRETTY ASS. ID LIKE TO SHOW HER THE MEANING OF ANAL CONDOMLESS SEX AND I WANT TO FUCK HER PUSSY AND SQUIRT MY SPERM IN HER MOUTH AS SHE GOES DOWN ON ME FOR THE 400TH TIME. ID FUCK HER ANYWHERE, ID SPRAY HER ALL DAY LONG. I WANT TO FUCK HER ANALLY ORALLY AND UP HER JUICY PUSSY. OPERAMAN BYE BYE

  • July 5, 2001, 10:15 p.m. CST

    talkback

    by Brice Carrington

    isn't that all you do harry is spout off about movies and criticize people who are talented enough to make films and not just talk about them. After reading your A.I. "review" I realize you just rant and rave, rambling on like the rest of us and clearly don't bother to edit, refine or spellcheck your hidieous "reviews". It sounds like Kevin is making fun of you and us.

  • July 5, 2001, 10:51 p.m. CST

    You reap what you sow, Harry.

    by Emerald Eyes

  • July 5, 2001, 11:15 p.m. CST

    You reap what you sow, Harry.

    by Emerald Eyes

    You'll get no argument from me on the Trashbackers in here. Looks like you hit a nerve, eh Harry? I love listening to these bitches: "but...we have a right to our opinions...blah blah blah". Apparently, the Trashbackers don't have the right to get a decent education or learn how to critique a film on its own merits instead of their own biases or preconceptions. This is everything that's wrong with America in general, let alone on the net. But here's a newsflash for you, Harry -- YOU'RE the one who set the abyssmal standards for what passes as film criticism on this site. Let's face it, Harry: if you actually halfway TRIED to study film theory, screenwriting, or hey, even a command of the English language, it would do a lot to discourage the Springer-esque caliber of discussion in the Talkbacks. It's bad enough we've got an illiterate, out-of-touch dipshit in the White House reassuring us that C students can be President (provided, of course that you're rich, connected, and OK with subverting democracy). With the exception of Moriarty or Alexandra DuPont, AICN is the refuge of frustrated idiots. Not that that's a bad thing. I'd rather they were in here than out in the real world where someone might be forced to actually converse with them. It's simple, Harry. Start learning how to communicate your ideas more clearly ("COOOLLLL" doesn't count) and the Trashbackers may follow. Or not. We'll always have idiots who feel their uninformed opinions are an entitlement. You shouldn't be one of them, though Harry. Oh, and good for Kevin Smith. Fuck the Trashbackers!

  • July 5, 2001, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith appears to be well grounded

    by studduck

    In the double issue of entertainment weekly #602/603, Kevin said- and I quote- "It reminds me that not everyone is going to like what I do." This was his response to REQUIRED WEB READING (p.105). Now some one who writes such caustic scripts and creates such acid tongued characters can't possibly get his feelings hurt by these submissions. But if Harry can't deal with criticism and bans talk backers then he needs to take the high road and shut the site down. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. (supply your own fat joke here)

  • July 5, 2001, 11:40 p.m. CST

    Good read

    by MrCere

    Reading through that talkback took about the same about of time that reading Dostoevski's Crime and Punishment did in 12th grade. I didn't do that well on the test at all. Well, nobody likes to be criticized but I can't help but think what seperates the elbows from the a-holes is what they criticize. If I make a film (pornos in my head don't count) and you watch it and hate my film and tell me so, fine. If I make a film, and you watch it and then hate me and tell me so, I will probably get pissed. Some people either hate Kevin Smith or talk like they do. His talkback forum happens to be on film and people pay money to go see it, so his voice is louder than mine. More power to him. He can say whatever he wants as long as somebody finances his stuff, which they do because smucks like us spend some of the credits they earn working at jobs. Talk backs are funny.

  • July 5, 2001, 11:40 p.m. CST

    "Asshole Talkbackers"

    by Solaris

    Harry, I'm just a little curious. Who represents an intelligent, informed talkbacker who may happen to disagree with you, and an "asshole"? As you've probably noticed, you've gotten probably more response to this statement than if you had just written about the film. Is there some kind of ulterior motive here? This is just a thought, but I wonder if it weren't for these so called "assholes," (I won't assume whether I'm one or not, though I think that the quality Kevin Smith's output to date is mized at best) you wouldn't have as many people tapping into your site as you do. Having read a few of the posts on Kevin Smith, I think Smith has been treated a hell of a lot better than some other filmmakers on this site. In fact, I remember one time when one hapless soul actually ripped on Smith (it wasn't me) and the other talkbackers tried to crucify him. Pity the fool with a divergent opinion. Personally, I think you "defense" of Smith and subsequent denigration of those who dare not like his work to be, well, in a word, immature. A more mature response might have been to say "Kevin Smith takes on his AICN talkback critics and puts them in their place ." You see, it's easy to say the same thing without generalizing, being overly insulting, and making yourself look like a fool in the process. Think about it. As for Jay and Silent Bob, I was curious, but now I'm staying away until I get a more credible second opinion.

  • July 5, 2001, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Editorial Irony

    by Solaris

    Approximately two minutes ago I sent off a post entitled "Asshole Talkbackers," using not my words, but Harry's. As a general rule, I try not to use that word to describe those who disagree with me over movies (though I might think it from time to time). It's interesting that Harry can freely use this word, yet when some posts back a talkback using the same word, the talkback is cut out. What gives Harry? Anyway,regardless of how good or bad this movie is, calling your talkbackers "assholes" is pretty weak Harry. Kevin Smith has gotten much better treatment from talkbackers on this site than other filmmakers. I don't know if you really posted this review to praise the movie, to vent your spleen at talkbackers, or to get get more people to respond on the talkback sites.Personally, I think Kevin Smith work has moments of good humor all too often followed by bombast and self-indulgence. That's my opinion, sorry. I was curious about Jay and Silent Bob, but your review really turned me off.You could have said everything you said here without generalizing about all talkbackers,insulting them, and weakening your own credibility in the process. In closing, something you might keep in mind Harry, is that many people tap into this site to read other talkbackers comments as much as they do to read yours.

  • July 6, 2001, 12:22 a.m. CST

    WAITASECOND!! Harry, Moriarty, and ElCosmo give A.I. a bad revie

    by TallScott

    O.K. first let me say that im a big Kevin Smith fan. I thought clerks was a godsend to american cinema and even though I hate mallrats I thought chaseing amy and dogma were great as well and I loved the Daredevil and green arrow that is is writeing in comics..But WHAT THE HELL!!! You guys are walking contridictions. A.I was a thought pervokeing masterpice and Jay and silent bob is just a mindless romp ( Looks funny though) Did Clerks and Dogma hold the type of perfection test that you held to A.I. No i really dont think so. Talk about hypocritical! Do only the movies that you guys pick and choose somehow get the gold card to not nitpick on as bad as you three did to A.I.? Whats going on guys? Is your cinimatic tastes not mature enough to handle a movie that makes you think. You guys bitch and moan on how movies are not as great as they once were and one comes out and boom you guys harp on it like bitter fanboys beacuse it was not like the matrix. Im really finding the revies on this site to be very very immature and not all that intellegent. Please go back and watch some hitchcock or some david lean then come back and write a review. Ex-fanboy out P.S. Jay and silent bob looked like some good old fasion screwball comedy but remeber its still lightweight ..sorry kev

  • July 6, 2001, 2:38 a.m. CST

    good then?

    by Silver_Joo

    Talk back is fine as long as people are respected and nobody is crapped on by some pretentious and misinformed shit. I really enjoyed Dogma, and it is the first time I have not minded putting up with Ben Affleck. this film sounds fun, even if you are gushing a bit harry. kevin smith should do something a bit more taxing now though, we know he is funny; how about thought provoking?

  • July 6, 2001, 3:57 a.m. CST

    As a lifelong film fan....

    by ScullyToo

    ....I can attest to the annoyance I have of morons in here who bash on someone's work even before the movie is released just becuase they either a) just feel like being annoying, b)hate a particular director/producer/actor so automatically everything that particular producer/director/actor does is crap, or c) hate Hollywood produced movies in general. I am also a rather easy person to please when it comes to movies -- there are very few that I absolutely loathe. I always tend to find a good thing with any movie that I watch, which is probably why there are so few movies that I absolutely loathe (and is probably why I wouldn't make a good movie critic). But it distresses me to read the stuff that gets printed in here sometimes, only because I'm going back to school for film production, and I would hate to see anything printed in here that states just because I made one bad movie, automatically all my movies are bad. I'm anxious to see "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" -- I've liked Kevin Smith's work in the past, and Jay and Silent Bob are two of my favorite reoccuring movie characters. I haven't seen "Chasing Amy" yet, but I might rent that first chance I get. But overall, I'm anxious to see what they do to those "Talk Backers" in the movie who insist on saying crap about every movie that's set to be released -- that would be worth the price of admission in and of itself. :-)

  • July 6, 2001, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Aw, they deleted my "Matt Damon is Gay" post...

    by Squashua

    How ironic. In a Talkback that literally SCREAMS for fun, non-nonsense posts, Harry deletes a completely primary example post of the moronic attitude of a Talkbacker. What a loo.

  • July 6, 2001, 8:51 a.m. CST

    The Nature of Offense

    by harrizonn

    ever heard the term "too close to home"? when someone attacks you, verbally, and it offends you, why do you think that happens? insecurities. is it a good thing to take out your own insecurities on other people? maybe. should you be praised for it? i don't think so. if kevin smith wants to make a movie where he fucks with the people that have been fucking with him, that's Great! and i can't wait to see it. but if he makes a movie, where his idea of retaliation is whining Louder than those who have offended him... he can take a long walk off of a short bridge. that's when it becomes more about elitism (in it's many forms) which seems to be a thing many successful people are Extremely comfortable with... i don't profess to Know Kevin Smith... but i know people. and when it all comes down to it, most of us are a lot more alike than we'll admit... would Kevin admit how much he's like the Talk Back whiners?? *shrug* later

  • July 6, 2001, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Magnolia Fan

    by MagnoliaMan

    There's a joke in this movie about a talkbacker named MagnoliaFan. Where do you think they got that name from? I don't care because I hate Kevin Smith movies and he was probably responding to something negative I wrote about him. By the way, if Harry wants talkbackers to be positive, he should start finding material on movies made by good directors (Scorsese, Demme, Wes Anderson, Steven Soderbergh, Spike Jonze, Alan Rudolph, etc.), not hacks like Kevin Smith. Why does everyone pretend that bad genre films are the best cinema has to offer?

  • July 6, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Yes Harry! F*** the bitchin talkbackers

    by Cyco_Clown

    I've been visiting this site for a long, long time and always wanted to read this. The internet is the perfect place for morons without a life to spill their filth over everything and everyone. Cowards! I doubt they have balls to say the same shit in front of the people they offend! Burn in hell!

  • July 6, 2001, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Talking back

    by Gcrego74

    Granted Harry can be a little skewed towards the extreme, what makes him better than a talk-backer is the fact that he loves film so much he got his site together! That takes a little more effort than an anonymous sniping on a forum. Hoorah for Smith that he takes the ball and runs with it.

  • July 6, 2001, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Interesting read, Harry...

    by Halloween68

    Harry. Nice piece here. Not sure though to what extent you wish to ream the talkbackers though. I think if you have a point to get across, you should be able to do it, whether it's good or bad. Sorry, if I think a film is a piece of shit and it pissed me off to think that I spent money to see it, I'll tell you, but then I'll also tell you why I feel the way I do. If you mean to call assholes of the talkbackers who get on and scream unintelligable babble just to try and piss people off, to see their own words appear on screen, sheer boredom, or to yeah maybe try and be funny, then I tend to take your side here. Sometimes it's hard to wade through garbage to find an honest opinion on the message board. I think every message should have a point. But again, I don't think it should all be positive. I read an article recently that said that more and more, studios are looking online to see what the fans really like. I should think that if everything was positive and agreeable then the latter wouldn't likely be true. But, again, I say, please have a point to your rave, whether good or bad. And on a secondary note there Harry, can't wait to see Jay and Silent Bob. Sounds interesting. Chasing Amy, I'd have to say, I thought was okay, just okay. But I was probably wanting something more along the same lines as Clerks and Mallrats when I saw it. And you haven't seen Mallrats? Watch it immediately. Mallrats is hilarious. As funny as Clerks in its own freshly polished, first film by Kevin Smith with a budget sort of way. Maybe not quite as funny as Clerks because of the originality of Clerks when it first came out. But it is definately much better than Chasing Amy. At least I think so. I didn't care for Dogma at all though, I'd have to say. Too preachy (no pun intended). Although I thought Allen Rickman (sp) was brilliant and Selma Hyak (sp) gorgeous. Definately worth seeing if you're a Kevin Smith fan, but I wouldn't buy it. That's me though. This was the first movie that I could honestly say that I thought Chris Rock was boring in. Every part he was in was extremely slow. And don't even get me started on the Morrisette God thing. Eeeeyhh. There, rant done.

  • July 6, 2001, 1:44 p.m. CST

    I liked J&SBSB

    by franko

    I am a huge Kevin Smith fan and a frequent visitor to the View Askew website. As much as I wanted to like it, I was not a big fan of DOGMA, though I thought it was worth seeing if only for more classic Jay & Silent Bob. As a result, I didn't know what to expect going into J&SBSB, but I really liked it. Out of Smith's movies, this was most similar in tone to MALLRATS, and had an equally stupid plot (might as well have been DUDE, WHERE'S MY CAR), but with all the great dialogue, characters, and visual gags (as well as parodies of other well-known films) the plot doesn't really matter. It is amazing how many "name" actors Smith has convinced to appear this movie if only for a tiny cameo, and it is even more amazing how willing many of them are to make fun of themselves (or their on-screen personas). Jason Mewes and Will Ferrell are particularly great. I found my self laughing or at least chuckling throughout the whole thing, and the more I've thought about it since I saw it, the more I've decided I liked it. Sorry to ramble on, I wholeheartedly recommend this movie to View Askew faithful as well as those not familiar Smith's earlier work. ps. as much attention as AICN gives to Jason Lee, you should really see MALLRATS, Harry. Brodie is one of the great comedy characters in recent years.

  • That's right, I said good manners? Look, it's fine when people have differing opinions about movies or whatever you want to post your comments about. Debate and discussion are good, healthy things to become involved in. Yet, I've found it astounding that there seems to be this faction of web surfers who feel the only way to get their point across is by posting such inspired little homilies like QUOTE - "KEVIN SMITH SUCKS COCK, HARRY'S A FAT BASTARD WHO NEVER GOT LAID, etc." - ENQUOTE Let me ask all of you this, ESPECIALLY the bunch of you who obviously don't pay attention, such as the part where Harry clearly said the "asshole talkbackers" were "NOT ALL TALKBACKERS, JUST THOSE WHO etc." so anyway let me ask you this: If you were at a film convention, and Harry was hosting an open group discussion about, oh, let's say Kevin Smith movies, would you, from your seat where everybody could hear and see you jump up and say, "KEVIN SMITH SUCKS DICK, HARRY'S A FAT BASTARD WHO NEVER GOT LAID!"? Of course you wouldn't! Why? Because you would be then thrown out of the building. Why? Because you WOULD BE ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLE, AND MORE THE POINT, YOU ARE DISTURBING THE PEACE! There IS such a law, you know. And even though it may not necessarily relate to the Internet, it should still apply as far as the rules of society go. Yet, hunkered down behind your PC's or Macs, you are blanketed by anonymity, therefore, you scream things in cyberspace that hopefully you wouldn't yell in public. You may believe you are being funny, or insightful, or brutally direct with what you perceive to be the "correct" point of view according to you...but in truth, you are indeed being an asshole. Because CIVILIZED people don't yell sexual or obscenity laden epithets at each other in a conversation...unless they're on the Jerry Springer show. (Don't even get me started on THAT.) I ask again....what happened to good manners? AICN is not alone in possessing a forum board in which these so-called "flame wars" have erupted. Why? Have we all become that disenfranchised and polarized to each other as human beings that the only true emotions we put forth are spite, hatred and ridicule? God help us all if that's the case. I really don't believe "F**K YOU" is what Steve Jobs or Bill Gates had in mind when they developed the home computer systems. Yet, here we are, like a bunch of drunkards at a free-for-all brawl in the street, howling profanities and seeking to verbally do as much damage as possible. Harry, I don't know if you're reading this post or not, but if you are, heed this: Pay no attention to those who defame you or your beliefs. The irate rabble is only aroused because you have so expertly called their tune and they don't like it. As for you "insulting" your "core" audience, I think we all know that the "core" audience loves to talk about movies, not swap mother-banging insults. I realize I may invite a lot of flames my way, but I don't care either. Because you don't know me either. But to show you I'm not afraid to come out from behind the veil of anonymity, let me introduce myself: My name is Matthew Marcinko of Cleveland, Ohio and I think Harry's right, some of you people who post on this board ARE acting like assholes! Keep up the good fight, Harry, your "real" audience is here for you!

  • July 6, 2001, 4:19 p.m. CST

    C'mon Harry! You gotta see Dogma!

    by SethShandor

    You never rent videos or dvd's? I rarely do myself, just for time reasons. Same reason?

  • July 7, 2001, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Harry a 7th grade girl?

    by CalynRogue

    Why in the name of a green bleeding christ up a cross did Harry ever become a "writer". I'd expect this level of bubbly little-girl happy horse-shit from a twelve year-old girl in her journal, but from a semi-professional? Give me a break. My only advice is for Harry to quit tying his pig-tails so tight and grow up. Just learning to speak English instead of the dumbed-down little valley-girl patois that seems to be his forte would be a step in the right direction.

  • July 7, 2001, 6:04 a.m. CST

    bravo Harry

    by jetcreep

    It's about time someone pissed in the talkbackers' cereal. I get sooo sick of the "I'm first" crap I could scream. Then they blast someones work, Like they could do a better job. If you can do a better job, get your fat ass off that keyboard and show us what you can do! Nope, too busy running down a hard working filmmaker. Everybody is a critic! Maybe I don't like the way you cook the fries at McDonalds (that's probably where the loudmouths work). And one more thing...when you say the word "fuck", it makes you look like the stupid moron you are!

  • July 7, 2001, 11:34 a.m. CST

    This is my "Zoo" anology for AICN (This may be adapted into a c

    by reb55_0

    This site is The Zoo. You are the Zookeeper, and each one of these talkbacks is where you cage the animals. There are docile animals (the sloth), playful animals (the dolphin, the seal), fearsome animals (the lion, the tiger), lumbering animals (the elephant, the bear), the animals with sudden bursts of speed (the cheetah, the gazelle), ill-tempered animals (the viper, the wolverene, the wombat, etc.), animals high on the evolutionary ladder (chimpanzees), and even just quirky animals (the platypus). Each of the posts of news you send out is a piece of food, and it gets send to all the groups, regardless of its species. Some news proves to be more tasty than others (John Woo Turtles CGI-movie was digested nicely by most all), while others are not digested very well ("Batman & Robin" just didn't sit well at all, etc.) Casual readers (which make up most of the sites "attendence") get to chew on the news themselves and see how the animals react to it. The great thing about AICN is it allows the visitor to see the animals, AND jump in the cage from time to time and become one of these creatures. At almost all of the other Zoos, the visitors are kept definately behind the "Do Not Feed The Animals" sign, but thankfully not here. Unfortunaely, this Zoo also houses the rheses monkeys, who fling shit all around their cages, usually on the piece of food (ie, news) regardless of taste. These monkeys don't care who their feces hits, so long as they can make a stinky mess. Sometimes it hits the other animals and the voice their disapproval, or feel compelled to change species altogether. The end result of the posts is usually a very interesting cage of animals with varying amounts of monkey shit on the walls. Harry, as the Zookeeper, has to deal with this mess every day. Occasionally he punishes the bad little monkeys and refuses the ability to comment on the food, although he sometimes may get confused and punish a similar but not-as-mindless breed in the process. After a few weeks, Harry the Zookeeper cleans out the cage when it is no longer off use to make room for more animals and, more importantly, to test out the new meals he wants to deliver. He likes his zoo, and he would like to keep it clean, but after 4000 some-odd hosing cleanups, the Zookeeper tires greatly of that part of his job, whick entails hosing off monkey shit because the monkeys are naughty and, more importantly, don't know and don't wish to learn how to do anything else. The Zookeeper could remove his cages anytime he liked, but he would want to see the animals be able to frolick in a place of their own, much closer to his food. To that end, for the visitors to the Zoo, it is hard to ignore the monkey shit in the cage, but don't let that spoil your meal, or the company of the other animals. I would love to hear some feedback on this idea, because Random House is calling and I want to sell this idea for a huge profit.......thanks for the inspiration Harry (and especially to all the other "animals" in the zoo.)

  • July 7, 2001, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry, what did you think of Jeepers Creepers?

    by sprocket-bot

  • July 7, 2001, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Snootchie Bootchie!

    by Champ78

    Jay and Silent Bob rule ass! Long live the pointlessness of their characters to any movie's plot.

  • July 8, 2001, 1:58 a.m. CST

    FUCK KEVIN SMITH! FUCK HIM IN HIS STUPID ASS!

    by Longfellow

    I mean, what IS that? Some dork tells a bunch of Van Damme-less stories about goofy, almost-adult fucks doing the same shit in a small town and I'm supposed to GIVE a shit?! Fuck that, man! I go to the movies, I want to see explosions and bush and giant, fucked-up fish -- not real life! Why would I want to pay to hear some other prick bitch about how hard HIS life is when I can listen to myself bitch for free? That ain't entertainment -- I don't care what a bunch of critical fucks say! Steven Segal? THAT'S entertainment! Whiney twenty-somethings who can't get their shit together and do nothing but talk, talk, and fucking talk?! Shit -- if that's a movie, then even I can make a fucking movie!

  • July 8, 2001, 7:05 a.m. CST

    (sigh)

    by Oatu

    And so it goes...

  • July 8, 2001, 8:36 a.m. CST

    if that (sigh) was aimed at me...

    by Longfellow

    then you're evidently missing the point that my entire post is a quote from the very first Oni Press Jay and Silent Bob comic... I own a copy of pretty much everything Kevin Smith has ever written, know all the dialogue from Mallrats by heart, and have no life. And trust me when I tell you, Smith couldn't give a flying fuck what any of us actually think - he's minted, happily married, and gets piles of free comics - if only the man had the good sense to drink beer, and got pissed more often, he'd be the happiest bastard in the world. For the record, his lack of beer drinking is the only thing I don't like about the man (although I would be intrigued to see him without that beard for a change...)

  • July 8, 2001, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith Rulez!!!!

    by GothNoir

    Alright, first off I'm new to posting to this board, but I'm glad this is a place where I can give my opinions and feed back on the man who has made Indy Movies great and that man being Kevin Smith. The very first Kevin Smith movie I saw was Mallrats, and after that I was hooked. After watching Clerks, than Chasing Amy, and then Dogma, I knew I was 100% hooked. I mean hell just out of pure habit I blurt out "NOOCHE!" for no reason what so over. As far as the haters of Kevin Smith go, you can suck a fatty because you only hate Kevin Smith because you can't be Kevin Smith. You hate Kevin Smith because he's gettin paid to come out with some good movies and you're sittin on your asses twirling on a baseball bat wrapped in barbwire and being smacked with the 'I couldn't be creative even if I tried' stick! Just reading what 'Jay And Silent Bob Strikes Back' is about, I know I'm at that movie theatre and I don't even go to the movies all that often. I hate people, yet I love gatherings. Isn't that ironic? Seems like me and Randal are in the same boat. Kev if you read this I want you to know that your movies have put me in stitches while laughing during some of my most pain times in life. Hell if laughter is the cure to the soul, then you're a savior. Don't pay any attention to these down talkers, and these haters because you are great. And hey if you need someone to play a new character since you're retiring Jay and Silent Bob, let me know ~grins~ sorry had to insert the cheap plug here.

  • ...which I have stumbled upon after the fact, I'm just looking over the furious wreckage of this Talkback Armageddon. BTW, Clerks was one of the funniest movies ever made!

  • July 8, 2001, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Hmmm Evil Talkbackers Eh?

    by KILLAVANILLA

    Hey Harry, you've gotta get a second skin for this stuff, BELIEVE ME. It keeps me humble and working hard, being probably among the most hated on AICN. At the same time Mr Knowles, these are the true people who will support you too. Now that I've stuck up for the "talkback nation", "SUMMER CATCH" Next Month! Nah just playin' keep strong talkbackers (and please no more SCOOBY BASHING! It's making the Mrs nervous.)

  • July 8, 2001, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith, A Man for the People

    by BuckySwope

    I have no idea why some of yall are bashing on Kevin Smith just because he actually had the balls to pour all his money (though it was mostly on credit cards) and heart into actually making a movie in the far fetched hopes of it getting distributed to the masses. Maybe yall are just jealous that he actually pulled himself up by the bootstraps and did something meaningful instead of sitting on his ass on a computer all day like some of you losers. Quit your whining and give the man his due. Most importantly, realize that he IS just like us and not one of these fresh-out-of-film school Hollywood deal making commercial making to feature making hacks. (Michael Bay, anyone?). I tip my hat to you Kevin Smith. Keep giving us dialogue about "independent contractors on the Death Star", and ill keep buying tickets to your movies.

  • July 8, 2001, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Isn't this a little too INSIDE?

    by Col. Klink

    The first trailer looked good (mass appeal-wise) but the second Internet trailer looks too "Internet geeky". I doubt 5% of the movie-going public will understand this 'talk back' angle. Has KS lost his perspective? I hope he doesn't expect the AICN regulars to lead him to box office greatness. Most people will have _no idea_ what this movie is about.

  • July 8, 2001, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Okay, Okay, I give up. I'm Kevin Smith.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    There. Everybody happy now? Now that you know I'm actually here quite a lot, and that I do in fact read what everybody thinks about me. Wow... I'll bet most of you thought I was Jim Cameron, given my appropriation of his company nomenclature and all. No, no, no... that was but a disguise. A facade to throw the masses off the trail. But Jim is on AICN quite a lot. In fact, most of you have likely been entertained by his regular wit on these here talkbacks. Right, Buzz?? <wink wink.> So thanks to all who have given me props these many years, and to all who oppose. . . well, like my grandmother used to say: "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. And break their window." Happy trails, folks.

  • July 10, 2001, 6:08 a.m. CST

    ...and Selma Heyak as The Stripper

    by I Wuv Fanboys

    Has anyone else noticed that Kevin Smith has a raging breast fetish? That's not an insult, I'm just saying....the man enjoys big boobies.

  • July 11, 2001, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Talkebackers, it's not all about you.

    by cooper2000

    People, I dont think the entire film is about Talkbackers I just think that there is some subtext to that. From what I have read it spoofs Hollywood too. Lets hopes he mentions all the wonderful people who feel the need on the Talkbacks to say, "I Am First." I love Kevins films and hope he keeps making them. I also like how un politcially correct is and how he doesnt think twice about saying what he feels about people in Hollywood. Kevin, can I have a job?

  • July 11, 2001, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Oh, and furthermore

    by cooper2000

    Oh, and zooeyglass, if you hate Kevins films soooo damn much, why do you keep going to see his movies??? Huh? I have a feeling, they will portray people like you in the movie. Though I do like Magnolia and dissagree with K.S about that, I do have to say that Mallrats was mediocre, but I really enjoyed Dogma and even more so Clerks. This is how people talk to each other in real life, ya know. Thats what he captured so well. My favorite film of his film is Chasing Amy. Great dialoge, funny moments and it tackled a strong subject of Being gay not the film being "Gay". Didnt they stop saying things were gay back while you were in Junior High. I dont think you get the clever dialoge. Maybe you should catch the next showing of Pearl Harbor or Fast and Furious. Yaaaa Dude.

  • July 13, 2001, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Hey, zooeyglass...

    by NoTime4LoveDrJ

    I really do not see how labelling something as "gay" or telling everyone "it sucked" expresses your opinion enough to really matter to anyone. If you haven't noticed, it appears to be people such as yourself that Harry and Kevin Smith and the Talkbackers in general are bashing here. I think that if you are going to tell everyone that something is "gay", do tell us why it is "gay", will you? Because I really don't see films having anal sex, in fact,I don't see films being able to reproduce, much less have intercourse. Well, let me correct myself... They might be able to reproduce... Look at 95% of action films, with their completely uninspired plots. They strike me as incredibly interchangeable. That might be why "they suck"... There, do you see? I not only said that they suck, but I included the key element... WHY they suck. Take a cue from the people here who are actually worth the sperm their fathers exhausted for their conception and EXPLAIN YOURSELF, rather than simply use terms such as "suck" and "gay"... Because I'll be the first to tell you, "That is just so fucking gay" etc, etc, etc...

  • July 13, 2001, 11:38 p.m. CST

    You know...

    by bpjamieson

    It's funny how Kevin Smith criticizes the people who make stupid comments about directors and yet he's one of them.... I am relieved PTA has not sunk to Smith's level. Smith's films may have a level of wit and entertainment to them, but I must say that his comments about PTA (who, in my eyes, is an infinitely more talented and respectable filmmaker) show rather poor taste. -brendan

  • July 14, 2001, 10:18 a.m. CST

    to clarify...

    by JennB

    It seems that many of you are taking this very personally, although Harry may not have made it clear the type of bitchy-whiney talkbackers that are the catalyst for Jay & SB's adventure. I had the off chance to read this script a while ago and from what I can recall Jay & SB check out a forum about a movie being made from the comic book that is based on them. On the site one or two of the people make comments to the effect of "THEY SUUUUUUUUCK, I BET THEY ARE FUCKING EACHOTHER GODDAMN HOMO'S, I DON'T THINK THEY COULD WIPE THEIR OWN ASSES WITHOUT THE OTHERS HELP. IF I EVER MEET THEM I AM GOING TO POUND THER PUNK SISSY ASSES INTO THE GOUND." I may be mistaken, but the people who are taking offense at Harry words (remember that is all they are) are not the ones he is referring to.

  • July 14, 2001, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith **IS** a "talk back asshole"

    by wadew

    Kevin Smith is a whiney bitch if i've ever heard one. In the Clerks cartoon he takes shots at tarantino, schumacher, lucas....etc, etc And from what i've seen He's talked shit about Paul Anderson, Warren Ellis, John Byrne, various movie reviewers , the makers of "Sports Night", the creator of "Family Guy"..... And im sure i've missed about 792 other people he's talked shit about. This guy hides behind his computer screen/director's chair/his movies/his cartoons/his house..whatever... just like these other "assholes" you're describing. So basically Smith trashing himself. BRILLIANCE! (*ahem* this doesn't mean i don't like SMith's movies. I liked Clerks, Mallrats...i guess i still want to see Jay and Bob, but sometimes this guy just annoys me. He seems so sensitive to criticism by "assholes that don't know what they're talking about" and then does the same damn thing.)

  • July 16, 2001, 11:20 a.m. CST

    That's not a mullet.

    by mike "gq" ryan

    I believe that Manhoganistic is incorrect when he described Jay Mewes as having a mullet. A mullet consists of long hair in the back and short hair on the sides. Since Jay Mewes has long hair on the sides he would not be described as having a mullet. On another note Longfellow made my day by writing that he goes to the movies to see explosions, bush and giant fucked-up fish. I truly enjoyed that, especially the giant fucked-up fish.

  • July 17, 2001, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Hey Knowles have you hated a movie EVER!!!

    by j2designs

    Hey when is the last time you actually hated a movie without sucking up to the studio and giving it positive feedback. Just wondering, and hope to see you at the Comic convention in San Diego.

  • July 18, 2001, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Where's the review?

    by El_Nikad

    Harry, I have been coming to this site for well on three years now and today I registered for the very first time just to respond to this one talk back. Let me preface - usually I like your reviews, even when I don't agree with them. But, where is the review for this movie? There have been some bad reviews here, but they are usually comprehendable. This is the worst I have ever seen because it is simply not there. As an elementary school teacher, I have seen better book reports from third graders. What is the premise of the movie; what is the basic storyline; what do you mean by watching Matt and Ben making a sequel to GWH, is that a plot element, if so how does it fit in the overall scheme of the movie? This is not a review - this is something my three year old niece would say about her recent visit to Disney World. This is beyond stream of consciousness - it is river of unconsciousness. I know nothing at all about this film. To say it is about talkbackers or an up-yours to talkbackers is wholly and completely without meaning. Why is that so, what makes it that way? Why is the film titled Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - are they after talkbackers, or is it just another nod to GL and the SW saga? If the former, why are they after the talkbackers, are they stalking them, do they wish to inflict mortal harm on them? I am really interested in this film being a Kevin Smith fan who has seen ALL of his movies (including Dogma and Mallrats) and even the Clerks 'toons. You have told me nothing about this film and that is really disappointing. So what, you liked it? Big deal. A review is not simply saying thumbs up or down; no, my friend, there is much more. What exactly is this movie about? I hope you add some more insight here because I would love to read it. Instead, it's like saying "Gladiator is about the excesses of the Roman rulers; this movie rocks; those bad rulers really get theirs in this film; maybe if they weren't so bad then we wouldn't want them to get it so bad, But they are BAD - horrible bad; and so they get it and I love Ridley Scott for giving it to them!!!!!!!". Do you realize how inane that is?

  • July 23, 2001, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Eliza Dushku is sex?

    by walterpaisley

    Eliza Dushku -- you mean the cheerleader with no hips from BRING IT ON? You need to get your eyes examined, Harry. She looks like an underfed child -- and Kirsten Dunst like trailer park trash -- next to Gabrielle Union. Now THAT girl is hot!

  • July 23, 2001, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Journalism 101

    by Bast-Id of Young

    To paraphrase the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons, this is the worst movie review ever. It says absolutely nothing about the film. Nothing. Basic journalism will tell you that the words "I" or "me" will never appear in a review. Now Harry has been guilty of this millions of times. Fine. Most amateur critics often turn reviews into personal essays. But this is incomprehensible. I have learned nothing about "Jay and Silent Bob Strike..." Whats the movie about? Who is in it? Is the acting good? How is the dialogue? These are examples of what should be included in a review. Not self-referential bullshit.

  • July 23, 2001, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Mongoloid Dreams

    by BoolboSchmaltz

    When I read the 'feh-feh'spilterage i felt all groovewoove..and felt like i should sit and think about the plottershotter and psst.harry.knowles.com aboot the finkfank panny wank..give tarantino a bone..cuz the movie machine greases the bone..they shine da bone..they shimmy da bone then pass da bone unto you..or knowles..who would live in carnabywax syllindrumdream..felcher was the gift that they gave me and knowles could have been gang-aft-a-gley for the fuyuck chuyuck of his folds..wisdom doth there lurk..and the wasm spasm of the chongoloids and trooptoloids could barely jimjam da ba-baba-blam of the cooder st.cooder of the old forgotten show...talkback toiletkake..i love the sound it make...grun grun i left the grundage..linkage..bastage. furmage...bleemage..felchmage... feh feh..but that's ok... foolder der kamerad is the knowles way..

  • July 24, 2001, 11:50 a.m. CST

    So far, you suck

    by brazilian-pimp

    This is my first posting on this site since I have just discovered it. First of all, this review was fuckin horrible!!! I was actually looking forward to watching this movie, but now I'm not so sure. I mean, if a moron like you Knowles liked it this much, then it is probably pretty fuckin shitty! Maybe you should go back and get your GED cause you make no fuckin sense at all. And another thing, why blast talk backers? Seriously, if hollywood let people like us evaluate movies, then there wouldn't be half the crap that gets put out in theators! Like I said, this is my first time on this site, but so far, I agree with most of these postings here Knowles, you are fuckin sell out!

  • July 26, 2001, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Snoochie.

    by Kevin Smith

    I must admit that I am surprised to see the amount of argumentative pap that JASBSB has created. You people would think it was anything more than a film. The media had a pop at Clerks saying it was too intellectual and offended stupid poeple, there was controversy over Dogma and the way it 'insulted' orgainsed religion (a synonym for Fascism if you ask me) and now JASBSB is creating a ruckus among the internet community. When will people learn that these films don't have anything to say. Or if they do, it's in a humerous - poke-life-in-the-ribs fun sort of way. They're there for your entertainment people - if you don't like them - tough shit. Go watch Beaches or something.

  • Every Kevin Smith movie I have ever seen follows this flow... First half pushed on by funny Dialogue Slow Lumbering third quarter Very Dumb, Very SIlly ending

  • July 26, 2001, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Now, for my pointless opinion...

    by Boritom

    First off, let me just say that, based on the advance screening, and taken upon it's own merits, J&SBSB is a really cool film. It's consistantly funny, and has enough of the favorite characters from the other 4 previous KS flix to make it watchable for those of us who like in-jokes and subreferences (I'm a huge Dennis Miller fan too). Nonetheless, I have to admit that this film has a few flaws. First off, it doesn't quite have the pacing that Kev's previous films have. I'm sure some of this will be fixed during the final edit, and it goes without saying that some of my favorite scenes will be deleted as well (I really don't want them to cut a certain parody of a beloved mystery cartoon series, but if they do, it'll probably be included on the DVD!), but there are still certain problems that can't just be "fixed". First off, as much as I love the little jerk, Jason Mewes is just not quite strong enough to carry a film. You could tell at times that he was straining to stay in character, sometimes with less than stellar results. Kevin Smith, as little as he allows himself to do, ended up stealing the scene more often than not, just by being more interesting and consistant (He does have a few really great scenes, but no spoilers here!) The only other thing I can say is, now that it appears Kev has his whole J&SB story arch resolved, maybe he'll try his hand at a dramatically different kind of picture. Perhaps a musical version of "Moonraker", or an installment of the "Alien" saga set in the old west or ancient Greece... Hercules meets the Aliens... Never mind that one... to many copyright clearances to consider. Ahhh hell, have him direct Trek 10. Then he can do Data and Silent Worf... Okay, enough grousing... You may all go back to your regularly scheduled loathing now.

  • July 31, 2001, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Taking self-centered to a whole new level.

    by freakboy10

    Wow. Now I know why I stopped coming to this site for any reason at all. I come by for one of the few JSBSB reviews online, and instead I see a whining baby crying about how his feelings get hurt online, and how Kevin Smith just made an entire movie to vindicate him. Are you fucking kidding me??? Has Kevin read this shit? Re-read that "review" (and I use the term loosely), Harry, and try not to vomit, I dare you.

  • Aug. 1, 2001, 7:43 a.m. CST

    AICN: the movie!(advance screener review)

    by xlogik909

    got to see a socalled 'rough cut' of jersey 5 the other night(besides some missing ending credits, it seemed far from the 6 month advance screeners ive always wanted to see) as harry says in his review, its great how the film is basically about talk back sabotagers. Actually, after a scene with Holden I thought 'my goodness, this whole film is a giant AICN culture lampoon!' first ebay gets the satire treatment in films, now AICN(or similair sites) I will say i thought the whole charlie's angels mid section kind of goes off course, but the between the chris rock 'nwp' joke and cunnil with carrie fisher i was laughing my ass off. how woulda thought mewes would make such a strong leading man? :: x l o g i k :: film affacianado commando

  • Aug. 4, 2001, 6:50 a.m. CST

    everyone seems to miss the point

    by The Man With...

    The whole point of the movie (as explained by the reviewer), and the review here is that all the big useless assholes that come on to pages, like this one, and say, 'fuck this, fuck you, *inset name* is a fat and stupid sack of shit,' are just as useless as they appear to be. It is not about those who come on and seriously write their opinions with some level of intelligence, coherence, and even spelling, so that they can be understood for god sake. I even check my punctuation, so that I'm, you know, actually typing the english language. In response to someone's earlier comment, about honesty, and using or real name on talk backs, my real name is Matthew Robert Yeoman, of Woodstock, Ontario, Canada, now how the fuck does that help you? It bloody well doesn't! Unless you're about to begin a lengthy investigation of my past, with which you plan to blackmail me, and beat my relatives. Or your just some dumb kid asking stupid questions about honesty, and not knowing what it really is. My name has nothing to with honesty, my opinions do.

  • Aug. 8, 2001, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Jay and Silent Bob

    by Scent of a Film

    I heard that Kevin Smith is upset about the ending of "The Planet of the Apes". That Tim Burton took it from Jay and "Silent Bob Strike Back". Is that true?

  • Aug. 8, 2001, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Of course it's a re-make...

    by Bananimal

    ...because there's no imagination in Hollywood. If it sells any number a tickets (makes $$$) then the product will be packaged and shipped to a multiplex near you.

  • Aug. 10, 2001, 3:44 p.m. CST

    i would like to know

    by steph

    just how many people have ever responded to talk back. one million? two? if this movie was made just for the "talk backers" (i had no idea there was such a subculture) then miramax is looking at $10 or $20 mil, assuming that everyone sees it for full NYC prices. i've never heard of such a collaboration just to get back at a few internet geeks. perhaps if harry could get kevin smith's dick out of his mouth he could see that although he may be as big as the sun, the planets do not revolve around him and his entertaining, but in the end inconsequential internet site. PS kevin smith has come up with some pretty funny things, but if i put them all together i'd still only have about a 30 minute film.

  • Aug. 10, 2001, 6:07 p.m. CST

    by steph

    oh, i almost forgot - to The Man With... the audacity to carry on about proper english- YOUR is possessive. YOU'RE means YOU ARE.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 4:04 a.m. CST

    Fuck Kevin Smith and Fuck Harry. Us Talkbackers are what make yo

    by Spacesheik

    'nuff said.

  • Aug. 12, 2001, 3:07 p.m. CST

    jay and silent bob review

    by cheasygal

    First, i love all of kevin smiths movies, he is awsome. I cannot believe you havnt seen dogma, that is the BEST movie i have ever seen, i think even better than CHAISING AMY!!! I havnt seen the new movie yet, but i way excited about it, the previews i have seen so far have been hysertical!!! JAY AND SILENT BOB ROCK!!!!

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 4:40 p.m. CST

    YOU TELL'EM STEVE-DAVE!

    by Coturno

  • Aug. 13, 2001, 4:47 p.m. CST

    YOU TELL'EM STEVE-DAVE!

    by Coturno

    I haven't seen this flick yet but hell...it must kick ass, I loved Mallrats, "you fucking jedi!" as Jay said. Indeed, I saw all of them and I wonder - hey..Ben Affleck was an angel in Dogma, a pervert in Mallrats and a living turd in Chasing Amy. WHY CAN'T KEVIN SMITH JUST TRY SOMEONE ELSE?! Heh, I must admit it is kind of funny to see him doing several plays but...awww shit. Just remembered something. There are OTHER actors doing OTHER roles in different flicks so hey, fuggedaboutit. No, I didn't read any post until I posted this, so go get a chronic blunt.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back

    by SilentClerk13

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back

    by SilentClerk13

    Harry: I love your review on JSBSB,you cannot have hit it better than that.What you wrote about the film is proboably what Kevin Smith wanted to say,shit,Kevin Smith dosnt have say anything at all.People who are Kevin Smith fans know exactly what he potrays through his comedy.You said everything,I'll keep reading your reviews from now on and forever. -george

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Then sign me up as talk back a**hole

    by ItsOver

    Let me get this straight. Smith spent millions of dollars and God knows how many hours making a movie to decry Talk Backers? That's the kind of insecurity I haven't seen since seeing the fat kids in middle school gym class get picked for the "skins" team. Oh and Harry comparing pimply perpetual virgins as a topic of satirization as Hitler is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this site. ***** Smith should thank the talk backers who almost unanimously praise his latest bit of nonsense. The guy has the visual style of a sit-com and is the most self-indulgent writer around. Spike Lee is a paragon of restraint in comparison. Yet somehow he's elevated to "auteur" status. OK, I loved Clerks, really liked the script to Chasing Amy, and I'm seriouosly digging his Green Arrow comics. I'm pissed I blew cash on the unfunny Mallrats tripe and the mind boggling turd Dogma. I'm not going to call Smith an asshole, because by all accounts he's a very kind man. I met him once and he was bright, modest, and charming. I also don't think my opinion is authority like some Talk Backers. But I like to be able to vent my frustration when wasting money on half-assed, lazy garbage. When I screw up at work, I get yelled at. Why should Hollywood be any different? ***** Anyway, that's my little conniption fit. I'll go see this movie, but if its all Smith smugly retreading his old jokes (look! it's the stinky palm) my eyes will bleed. One last indulgent note from this self-proclaimed asshole: Harry you have a very entertaining site, but please pick up a copy of the Elements of Style.

  • Aug. 14, 2001, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the ticket Harry Knowles....

    by Daddy Hood

    ... and thanks for the advice about how to get my other questions answered by Kevin Smith. I will send him my questions via e-mail to his site after the two month time frame as suggested. Even after attending the after party for his movie premiere at Antone's, I still wasn't able to get his attention long enough to get my questions answered. I did get him to sign almost all of the comics books that I bought and speak to his wife about the movie and female roles in movies more, though. Once again, Thanks for giving me a ticket to the after party after the end of the movie. - The Daddy Hood

  • Aug. 16, 2001, 2:14 a.m. CST

    I cannot believe you guys!

    by PCheese

    AND I quote : To you people in Talk Back that can not read and comprehend. I am not insulting TALK BACKERS.... I'm insulting that percentage of whiny bitches that do nothing in Talk Back but shit upon any and everything. ------------------------------- Now, it seems to me that the only people to be taking affront at this are exactly the people it's aimed at. I for one, am a massive fan of Dogma, Mallrats, Clerks and Soon to be JASBSB - I wasn't really a big fan of Chasing Amy I'm afraid - which is bizarre cause most people rate that as K.Smiths best movie. But I don't see that the films of the ViewAskewniverse would warrant such a tremendous outcry from a bunch of unwashed heathens as I've read here today. I'm not entirely sure why people take it upon themselves to ultimately take a massive shat all over a film before they've even seen it. Overall : I'm gonna hold judgement till I've seen the flick - but it looks sweet from the teasers. Harry - good work fella, I enjoyed the review - at least I got a little more info about it. Whiny turds - go back to your neolithic, bog-dwelling mamas and cry a while why don't you.

  • Aug. 16, 2001, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Talkbacks, Talkbackers & Harry...

    by Elliot_Kane

    From what Harry writes, the main people he and Kevin Smith get annoyed at are those who just post insults like 'John Doe Sucks' with no reasons given for their opinion, and often without having seen the film they are criticising. By far the majority of us - including a number of you who have taken umbrage at Harry & Kevin over this - are not usually guilty of it. *** Yes, Harry has his pet hates and enthuses over his favourites, but then he is human like the rest of us. There is not a single poster on this site that does not do the same thing. He does overdo the personal abuse sometimes which I find rather sad (in the proper sense of the word), but it is his site and he can put what he wants on it. This is not to condone or even excuse - it is a statement of fact. *** All Kevin Smith films are social observation, aren't they? It is unsurprising, therefore, that he would address the intermet community sooner or later. As previously noted, he isn't having a go at most of us, so where is the problem? All in all, I do not expect J&SB to change my opinion of Kevin Smith one way or another.

  • Aug. 16, 2001, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Talkbacks, Talkbackers & Harry...

    by Elliot_Kane

    From what Harry writes, the main people he and Kevin Smith get annoyed at are those who just post insults like 'John Doe Sucks' with no reasons given for their opinion, and often without having seen the film they are criticising. By far the majority of us - including a number of you who have taken umbrage at Harry & Kevin over this - are not usually guilty of it. *** Yes, Harry has his pet hates and enthuses over his favourites, but then he is human like the rest of us. There is not a single poster on this site that does not do the same thing. He does overdo the personal abuse sometimes which I find rather sad (in the proper sense of the word), but it is his site and he can put what he wants on it. This is not to condone or even excuse - it is a statement of fact. *** All Kevin Smith films are social observation, aren't they? It is unsurprising, therefore, that he would address the internet community sooner or later. As previously noted, he isn't having a go at most of us, so where is the problem? All in all, I do not expect J&SB to change my opinion of Kevin Smith one way or another.

  • Aug. 17, 2001, 7:14 a.m. CST

    respect

    by cheasygal

    I have already posted that i love kevin smith, and can't wait for the movie to come out. All the people who are going ape shit, get a grip!!! If you are getting offended it is because you probebly wrote something childish and look dumb now. I saw that kevin smith and freddi prnz jr actually posted there thougths, and that was cool. I will see the new movie and i have already bought all kevin smiths other movies. and freddy, i will go see you new one this summer as well, summer catch is that the name, well i will go, cuz you are a cutie and you are marrying my girl buffy, lol. (pluse, you look good without your shirt on, lol)

  • Aug. 18, 2001, 5:55 p.m. CST

    having just returned from the sneak preview...

    by MartinBlank

    ...not that anyone is reading this talkback anymore anyway but... (A) The whole 'getting back at talkbackers' takes up maybe 4 minutes of screen time. True, it is the plot motor to piss off Jay enough to go to Hollywood to stop 'Bluntman and Chronic' so people won't talk shit about him online, but it's not 90 minutes of "fuck you, talkbackers." (B) I have no idea what Paul Dini looks like, so either I missed his cameo or it got cut. (C) this is more a response to Moriarty's review...I didn't see Alanis anywhere in the film. Either her cameo got cut, it appeared in a post-credits cookie which I didn't stay for, or I totally missed it. (D) I liked it a lot. Consistent laughs and fun, which is more than I can say for most smegma this summer. I liked the scene from 'Good Will Hunting 2' -- was the wimpy O Reilly brother from 'Oz' really the same guy who was in the original scene with Damon? 'Maybe you've read some Gordon Wood'. (E) That fourth chick is Kev's wife? Damn. Lucky bastard.

  • Aug. 18, 2001, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Snootchie Bootchies

    by shoney

    This movie was hilarious. Kevin Smith followed the tried and true formula of buddy/roadtrip movie and it payed off. Granted there are cameos deluxe but they are very humorous. I'm sure this movie will, like every other movie, be bashed by 35 year old virgin internet geeks, but nobody ever listens to what they have to say because a 35 year old virgin's opinion doesn't count. Anyway Jay and Silent Bob prove to be the best comedy duo since Laurel and Hardy...ok perhaps that's an overstatement, but they definetly are the best comedy duo of the summer. See it!

  • Aug. 18, 2001, 7:33 p.m. CST

    What a bad movie...

    by HeyPenny

    OK, I just saw a sneak preview of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. I loved Chris Rock's part!..and hated everything else. The funny thing is that while Kevin Smith used this film to bash internet message boards, did Mr. Smith himself attack Paul Thomas Anderson, for basically no reason ohter than he disliked Magnolia, on his website? I believe he described Magnolia as self-indulgent trash. Something about that must have appealed to Mr. Smith because JASBSB is so self-indulgent that this could have been titled 'KEvin Smith,This is Your Life.' It's a 95 minute inside joke, featuring all of his buddies he's accumulated along the way. The story? Leather-clad jewelry robbers? The jokes? Oral sex and gay cracks? I was expecting a movie, not a slapstick romp. He doesn't stick to his roots whatsoever, not staying true to any of his old movies, although all of the old actors make (worthless) appearances. And if you have not seen Chasing Amy, Mallrats, or Clerks, you will be completely lost at alot of the references. Magnolia self-indulgent? Please take another look at this film, Mr. Smith, and see how much you've sold out and pleasured yourself in the process.

  • I respect Kevin Smith. You know why? He can release a movie, Jay and SB Strike Back, and have it make sense. All this stuff he writes about, comes from real life situations. I bet ya most of you guys dream of Shannon Elizabeth and you wanna have her. She's in this movie to serve a purpose, and that is to be the good conscious that wants to make up for the bad things she had done to Jay. I also think this is one of her better movies. And for this movie to be "against" talkbackers, I say can also agree with this idea. Some talkbackers don't know what the hell they are saying, and Kevin fed off of this insane topic. All you people in this talkback are saying the same shit over and over and over and over. We should be lucky to have a film made after us talkbackers. I did feel a little uncomfortable with all of the gay stuff, but it didn't make me think that Kevin is homophobic or whatever. I guess it added a little subliminal message that you don't have swallow (believe) the food that you were force-fed (shown). As Jay said: "I hate how fake Hollywood is." Get it? THE MESSAGE IS TELLING US TO MAKE UP OR OWN MINDS ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. I have only seen Mallrats, and I can say that I was a little lost with the connections to his other movies. But

  • I respect Kevin Smith. You know why? He can release a movie, Jay and SB Strike Back, and have it make sense. All this stuff he writes about, comes from real life situations. I bet ya most of you guys dream of Shannon Elizabeth and you wanna have her. She's in this movie to serve a purpose, and that is to be the good conscious that wants to make up for the bad things she had done to Jay. I also think this is one of her better movies. And for this movie to be "against" talkbackers, I say can also agree with this idea. Some talkbackers don't know what the hell they are saying, and Kevin fed off of this insane topic. All you people in this talkback are saying the same shit over and over and over and over. We should be lucky to have a film made after us talkbackers. I did feel a little uncomfortable with all of the gay stuff, but it didn't make me think that Kevin is homophobic or whatever. I guess it added a little subliminal message that you don't have swallow (believe) the food that you were force-fed (shown). As Jay said: "I hate how fake Hollywood is." Get it? THE MESSAGE IS TELLING US TO MAKE UP OR OWN MINDS ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. I have only seen Mallrats, and I can say that I was a little lost with the connections to his other movies. But

  • I respect Kevin Smith. You know why? He can release a movie, Jay and SB Strike Back, and have it make sense. All this stuff he writes about, comes from real life situations. I bet ya most of you guys dream of Shannon Elizabeth and you wanna have her. She's in this movie to serve a purpose, and that is to be the good conscious that wants to make up for the bad things she had done to Jay. I also think this is one of her better movies. And for this movie to be "against" talkbackers, I say can also agree with this idea. Some talkbackers don't know what the hell they are saying, and Kevin fed off of this insane topic. All you people in this talkback are saying the same shit over and over and over and over. We should be lucky to have a film made after us talkbackers. I did feel a little uncomfortable with all of the gay stuff, but it didn't make me think that Kevin is homophobic or whatever. I guess it added a little subliminal message that you don't have swallow (believe) the food that you were force-fed (shown). As Jay said: "I hate how fake Hollywood is." Get it? THE MESSAGE IS TELLING US TO MAKE UP OR OWN MINDS ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. I loved the last third of the movie. Mark Hamill was great as the villian in Chris Rock's movie. Very sweet knockoff of Star Wars. I would like to add that I have only seen Mallrats, and I can say that I was a little lost with the connections to his other movies. But I liked Strike Back because it made me think about irony and the whole bang shabazz. Snoochie Boochie. --Z0D (Pronounced: Zeroed)

  • I respect Kevin Smith. You know why? He can release a movie, Jay and SB Strike Back, and have it make sense. All this stuff he writes about, comes from real life situations. I bet ya most of you guys dream of Shannon Elizabeth and you wanna have her. She's in this movie to serve a purpose, and that is to be the good conscious that wants to make up for the bad things she had done to Jay. I also think this is one of her better movies. And for this movie to be "against" talkbackers, I say can also agree with this idea. Some talkbackers don't know what the hell they are saying, and Kevin fed off of this insane topic. All you people in this talkback are saying the same shit over and over and over and over. We should be lucky to have a film made after us talkbackers. I did feel a little uncomfortable with all of the gay stuff, but it didn't make me think that Kevin is homophobic or whatever. I guess it added a little subliminal message that you don't have swallow (believe) the food that you were force-fed (shown). As Jay said: "I hate how fake Hollywood is." Get it? THE MESSAGE IS TELLING US TO MAKE UP OR OWN MINDS ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE AND DON'T LIKE. I loved the last third of the movie. Mark Hamill was great as the villian in Chris Rock's movie. Very sweet knockoff of Star Wars. I would like to add that I have only seen Mallrats, and I can say that I was a little lost with the connections to his other movies. But I liked Strike Back because it made me think about irony and the whole bang shabazz. Snoochie Boochie. --Z0D (Pronounced: Zeroed)

  • Aug. 18, 2001, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Ummm....what happens in the Dini scene?

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Just saw the movie, but have no idea who Dini was. Funny cameos by Wes Craven and Gus VanSant though...unfortunately not enough Jason Lee....and Eliza Dushku is really something to see for sure....

  • Aug. 21, 2001, 5:33 a.m. CST

    kevin smith

    by sonofduffman

    reading the review of 'jay and silent bob..' i found that i am actually one of those obnoxious talk backers. when i wrote on the dawn of the dead remake i was shitty and i blasted james gunn but so fuckin what. it was my opinion. one of the talk backers was right if freddie prinze jr, did the same thing in a film we would all duly get at the keyboards and hammer abuse at him. we would laugh and he would cry but who cares? i think that these people have cushy lives and earn a fortune but spiteful fuckers like me dont want that. if they dont like it the dont become famous because you will be criticised. anyway. the review was brutal. it didnt make me want to see it and it was like a twelve year old talking about boobies. i know that kevin smith is fuckin cool. the man write a mean script and can direct classics. i think that randall is one of my favourite characters of all time and id say that a lot of people would agree with me, cause he was funny and smart and you wanted to see what he did next. but why was he funny? cause the pissed all over stuff he didnt like and customers he hated and we laughed and laughed, like when we read talk balk.

  • Aug. 21, 2001, 12:59 p.m. CST

    relax people

    by The_Dermo

    It isn't going to get any better. I am going to see an advanced screening of Jay and Silent bob tonight. I will write a review. to give you an idea of where I am coming from, here is a list of movies I hated with every Fiber of my being: 1. Titanic I cheered when Leo went under..I chuckle every time I think about it 2. Mission Impossible II Hey kids! Lets Ruin a great action movie with a completely implausible love story! 3. ANY Sandra Bullock movie What the hell is wrong with hollywood! If she was nude, for a looong time, and often...MAYBE I could see it. GREAT movies: Seven Snatch the magnificent 7 Talk radio Apocolypse Now Raging Bull OK so people, what we are talking about here is entertaining movies...not classic, great movies The point is, hollywood does not want to make great ovies every time out. they want to make movies that a lot of people will see. that is that. so until we expect more from hollywood, nothing will change...the only way we can let hollywood know what we expect is to NOT GO! Dont go see idiotic movies. And dont bitch about them being bad if you went to see the latest muppet movie, or anything with Julia Roberts...(cant believe she won an oscar)...or steven seagal, or whoever.

  • Aug. 22, 2001, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Jay and Silent bob review

    by The_Dermo

    I got free passes to the advanced screening of this movie. I have to say I walked in hoping that it would not be a let down. I enjoyed all of the other movies to varying degrees. The trailers for this movie had me worried that they were going for a paycheck here and not much else. I willsay this for the movie...it was pretty much what I expected it to be...and was entertained for the entire flik. Thats right people. It was stupid, full of low-brow humor, and repetitive. But it was funny. Just plain funny. I loved the cameos as well. Ben and matt were funny, and they ripped both on themselves and each other. Mark Hamil was funny, the dude from Dawson's creek and the "Pie Fucker" from American Pie were funny as well. I am not the type of guy to give out plot info or tell you my favorite parts... so I wont. See the movie, go in with the expectation of being entertained and yo uwill be. Dont expect a great movie, dont expect great acting...and you will enjoy it

  • Aug. 22, 2001, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith

    by Stacy_69

    I absolutely loved this movie,and I was privileged enough to attend the Austin premiere at the Paramount Theatre and the post show party. I was however; unfortunate as i did not get to meet "Silent Bob", aka Kevin Smith. I was almost positive he (or you, if you are reading this) looked at me, but was not brazen enough to push the mob of people attacking him out of the way, just to introduce myself. I feel that you writing speaks volumes and just wanted to let you know that.

  • Aug. 22, 2001, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Jay and Silent Bob, the last I hope.

    by stevo4

    I have a great idea. Instead of having Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back open on 2000+ screens, why not just have all 500 fans of Jay & Bob meet in one theatre? Then all you Kevin Smith worshippers can scream "F***, F***, F***" through the whole movie. Sort of a live "F***Back". At least you will actually be interacting with other people as you watch two wanna-be's in their last adventure. (WE CAN ONLY HOPE)

  • Aug. 22, 2001, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Jay and Silent Bob, the last I hope.

    by stevo4

    I have a great idea. Instead of having Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back open on 2000+ screens, why not just have all 500 fans of Jay & Bob meet in one theatre? Then all you Kevin Smith worshippers can scream "F***, F***, F***" through the whole movie. Sort of a live "F***Back". At least you will actually be interacting with other people as you watch two wanna-be's in their last adventure. (WE CAN ONLY HOPE)

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 4 a.m. CST

    Harry, Rest Your Yapper!

    by beavis_spanks_it

    Harry, you seem to love to read your own drivel so much that you take three times as long as necessary to make your point. Why not give that big yapper a rest and try and be a bit more concise with your reviews? We sure don't care about your fat ass or the poor girl that has to put up with that ass! The Talk Backers are the best thing here. We contribute little gems that your stuff sorely lacks. Keep talkin' Talk Backers! We rule!

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Aw, Christ...

    by hollywood7301

    "Arguing on the internet is like winning a gold medal in the special olympics. You may win, but you're still a fucking retard." Some of you will laugh. Some will be offended (what are you doing here if you are?). Others will feel it strike close to home. You know who you are. Everyone else, I love reading ya'lls comments and opinions. ...Back to lurking...

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Isn't Smith tired of being so "clever"?

    by MissLonelyhearts

    God, another one. <Sigh.> It's like having a little kid around. "Okay, Kevin, we know you're here." "Yes, Kevin. We know you can point a camera." I see this guy's work and all I'm reminded of (besides high school) is that phrase, "You know, you give a gun to a monkey and the monkey shoots someone, you don't blame the monkey." Who keeps greenlighting this stuff? My drinking buddies are cool, too, but I wouldn't EMPLOY them! Kevin, buddy, we want to like you. We really, really do. Why do you make it so hard? What are you, almost 40? "Suck my dick" was funny when I was 12. And knock off bagging on PTA. You're like Chevy Chase ripping on Steven Bochco on Politically Incorrect, saying that Bochco's stuff was too lowbrow to be respectable. Take a OBJECTIVE look at your own stuff sometime. "Chasing Amy" isn't even in the same league as "Boogie Nights" or even the worst of "Magnolia." Grow up, man. It's gotten old.

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 2:53 p.m. CST

    My name is The Warrior, and I am a famous internet jerk off.

    by The-Warrior

    Hey kids, your hero here. Here's the thing, in the new Smith movie which is a fuck-you to, well, assholes like me, one of the basement-living, bitter, talkback fucks uses one of my signature phrases. "Clown shoes." As we all know, I, The Warrior, have referred to many a shitbird as a "Clown shoe." In fact, I called Smith darling, Jason Lee, a clownshoe on many an occasion, especially in regards to him being Fletch. So, this shit-bag Smith used my line. I AM THE GREATEST INTERNET JERK OFF IN HISTORY!! That Bloated Sell-out can kiss my fourteen times banned ass. Three years of non-stop insane anger has finally paid off. Clown shoe indeed. See you in Hell.

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 4:19 p.m. CST

    By all that's holy, see this film.

    by The Duke

    Good to be back after a sabbatical. Had to get away from the site so I wouldn't turn into a little bitch and read any spoiler info on Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. And man, am I glad I didn't. This movie is perhaps the most hysterically funny film Kevin Smith has ever created. Funnier than even Mallrats? Yes, funnier than even the holy grail of the Jersey Saga, Mallrats. You get so much in this movie. The origin of Jay and Silent Bob, an update on the Quick Stop Crew, how Holden McNeil and Banky Edwards are doing post Chasing Amy, Internet talkbacker jokes out the ying-yang, and Jason Mewes in a performance that tops all of his Jay work to date. This movie is Kevin's closer to the Askewniverse, and it goes out on a bang. Still, it ain't all roses. If you haven't seen Kevin's previous works, you might be a little lost on the inside jokes, but c'mon, it's a Jay and Silent Bob movie. You don't have to be Trekkie-level obsessive to enjoy this flick. Oh, and one last thing? The scene where they catch up with Magnoliafan. . .I damn near had an anurism laughing. This movie's phat.

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Anyone who doesn't like this movie is a fucking idiot

    by magic_ninja

  • Aug. 24, 2001, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Anyone who doesn't like this movie is an idiot BECAUSE

    by magic_ninja

    they must be somewhat mentally disabled. seriously though, this movie had everyone in the theater rolling. i feel sorry for those losers who won't like it for whatever stupid reasons they will. What sucks even worse is that no one in the real world will want to hear their moronic opinions so they'll come here and post them.

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 1:50 a.m. CST

    difference in final cut

    by rlemm

    I saw an unfinished cut of the movie about a month ago and I think some changes were made in the final cut. Has anyone seen both edits of the movie and can tell me what is different.

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 9:10 a.m. CST

    SOMEONE ANSWER THIS PLEASE

    by freethinker

    Maybe I was too stoned myself, or I just blinked at the wrong time, but WHERE THE HELL WAS ALANIS???? Seriously, Musterios ez she had a cameo, IMDB says she was God again, but I saw nothing. Anybody spot her????

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 3:15 p.m. CST

    the best movie ever

    by kihop

    Kevin Smith is a genius. I don't care if not everyone gets all the jokes. If you feel left out, go rent Clerks and shut the hell up. For the record, Jason Mewes does NOT have a mullet. A mullet requires a layered haircut. From what I see, Jay's hair is all one length. Not important. What is important is that the movie is hilarious. Fucking hilarious.

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Alannis

    by kihop

    You had to stay until the end of the credits to see you-know-who closing the book that said "The End" and dancing off. Remember: always stay until the end of the credits.

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Thank you

    by Shawn Hopkins

    Saw this today and ran home to see if you assholes would prove Smith right. Thank you for not dissapointing me. lotsa laughs, Shawn Hopkins Regina, KENTUCKY

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 4:21 p.m. CST

    OK, I'm an idiot...

    by NumberSix

    J&SB etc. was bad. I enjoyed the inside jokes, the internet talkback slapdowns. But it was so slow and watered down. And except for Mewes who was giving his all (insert joe here), all the cameos were walk-thrus. In accordance with Smith's Star Wars fascination, this plays more likes Jay & Silent Bob's Holiday Special. A slick, calculated and smarmy way to make a buck. And I'm not sure but isn't there a limit on how many times you can make an audience related joke and then look into the camera? I'd say it was violated here. May Kevin forgive me. Six

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 8:30 p.m. CST

    J+SBSB

    by ard28

    I agree with Kevin Smith, it did suck when Greedo shot first. Interesting that Smith had two references to this same "shot" in the Cantina in Jay and Silent Bob. Some funny stuff in this movie, some not so funny. All in all, I'm glad it was made and with all the bitching out there I think we should all thank Kevin Smith for bringing us such great moments in all of his films.

  • Aug. 25, 2001, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith cracks down on internet assholeism

    by PR_GMR

    Just saw 'Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back' and I found it Hi-La-Rious!! A ton of amusing cameos! Mark Hammill. Wes Craven. Gus Van Sant. Shannon Doherty. And those are just a handful from the long list. I had to chuckle at seeing Ben Affleck and Matt Damon cut on themselves. Smith went straight for the funny here..though I still think 'Chasing Amy' is his best film. Enjoyed 'Jay...' more than 'Dogma'. Kevin Smith opens a can of whoop-ass and cracks down on internet 'talkback'assholeism--he's right on!! Magnoliafan getting his ass beat..hehehehehe!

  • Aug. 26, 2001, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Question about the movie -

    by The Joker

    I just got back from seeing Jay and S.B. After reading Harry's review, I was wondring if anyone out there knew just who Paul Dini played in the movie? I'm a big Dini fan, but have never seen what the guy looks like. Just wondering if he got cut out of the movie, or who he played? Thanks

  • Aug. 26, 2001, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Fuck Jay and Silent Bob

    by magnolia fan

    Fuck Jay and Silent Bob. Fuck them up their stupid asses. Jay and Silent Bob are clown shoes. I should make them eat my shit, then shit out the shit I made them eat, and then eat the shit made out of my shit.' Magnolia Fan

  • Aug. 26, 2001, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Jay and Silent Bob Review

    by Smurfette

    It sucked.

  • Aug. 26, 2001, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I Wanted To Like It But....

    by Bruno Diaz

    There was too much crappy stuff in it (monkey jokes? come on, that's like fuckin' BJ and the Bear!) Will Ferrell was awesome. Jason Mewes is fucking funny, but not given the best material here. The girls were used horribly, that Scooby Doo thing was so dumb, the horrible Mark Hammill scene, Chris Rock's redundant, overused Black-guy- hates-White-guys dialogue. Some funny shit, but I expect more from the man who brought us Clerks. Better than Dogma, though that's not saying much, but still too much crap. Kevin Smith, you need a WRITING PARTNER.

  • Aug. 26, 2001, 6:16 p.m. CST

    J&SBSB Credits and AICN TB

    by Hobblit

    I haven't read all of this TB, but did anyone else besides myself actually see the acknowledgement to AICN in the credits to J&SBSB (and, yes, AICN was specifically mentioned)? I hardly think that KS gives a rats ass what anyone here thinks. Going out and kicking flaming TBers asses is nothing more than something KS thought would be cool and funny, just like having a lightsabre fight with MH as Cock-knocker. And he knew his fans would get that. Like it or not, asshole TBers are a part of the culture for those of us who have a lot of passion for movies, comics, SciFi and any other geek thing you can think of. KS has acknowledged this and it would have been idiotic if he had ignored it. Let's not take ourselves too seriously here, because I'm pretty sure that people who think that KS sits up at night worrying about flamers are way off the mark (and yes, I mean you too, Harry). Peace.

  • Aug. 27, 2001, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Kevin, do you actually read this shit?

    by ItsOver

    Seriously, don't you have a wife and daughter? Go to the park, the zoo, be happy for what you have because most Internet nerds have nothing but a DSL connection and a reoccurring skin rash. I'm not even sure where this hostility from Internet geeks is coming from. These are the fuckers that keep going to your static, ham fisted movies and say in all sincerity that you are the "greatest filmmaker of all time." For every asshole like me, there's a million drooling idiots. J&SBSB was a mess. An incoherent plot dribbled with obvious jokes (do you think you're the first person to think Velma is a lesbian?), unfunny jokes, and self-congratulatory, masturbatory exposition. I agree with you on PTA's b.s. but after the one two punch of this and Dogma, you're in no position to criticize. **** Because I feel dirty being an anonymous critic at least make me make some amends and say that I'm really enjoying Green Arrow and looking forward to B&TB and Black Cat. Keep up the good work with the funny books.

  • Aug. 27, 2001, 6:15 a.m. CST

    J&SBSB - Great movie, but still VERY disappointing

    by PKD

    I think Kevin Smith got exactly the film he wanted out of this. It was funny, unconventional, and a slap in the face to those film geeks who, instead of offering opinion, flame, troll and insult people for no real reason. But it was definitely disappointing because of the man moments where it fell falt - especially hte entire jewel heist which should have been covered in about 5 minutes instead of 25. Also, did anyone else notice any similarities, plotwise, between this film and Beavis and Butthead Do America?

  • Aug. 28, 2001, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Kevin Smith will read this.

    by simulacra

    I found out about AICN around a year ago, and it immediately became one of the sites I visited every day. But after a couple of months I was totally burned out. It sickened me to see the inevitable long list of bitter and angry Talkback responses at the end of each review. I asked myself whether I would really miss AICN if I stopped altogether. What was I getting out of it? I felt spent after each visit, and my head was cluttered with useless tidbits of information concerning the genealogy of on-screen in-jokes, who had been considered for what role, speculations as to how the studio

  • Aug. 28, 2001, 6:55 a.m. CST

    You really wanna know what I think?

    by randalt

    I loved it. Near pissed myself laughing during the Mark Hamill scene. No more Jay & Silent Bob movies? Say it ain't so! Come on, DVD release!

  • Aug. 28, 2001, 11:05 a.m. CST

    There is shit in my pants!!

    by Scaught

    I loved this movie so much, I actually shit myself during it! Just kidding. Truthfully though, this is an extremely funny movie. Nobody spews forth verbal diarhea like Jason Mewes. Nobody What was up with cock-knocker? That was amazing. I can never look at Mark Hammil in the same light again. Ben Affleck once again proves that he is one of the coolest people out there. I loved that joke about the dead hookers in his trailer. That was insanely funny. In all, I loved this movie! It was extremely funny!!!

  • Aug. 28, 2001, 2:12 p.m. CST

    lol its funny how all the weird irony in the talk back here

    by peaceandska

    WEll id just like to say that in my opinion, i think that Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back caoul best be descrbed as Jesus compressed into cinmatic form via the genius of Kevin Smith. It's so obvious that in many of these talkback the users are just calling the movie to defend their own futility in insulting movies, because they know that Kevin Smith speaks the truth really. I don think think that Kevin Smith cpuld have done a better job on the movie; i mean the cast should say enough: Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Chris Rock, Jason Mewes (so what id he can't act?). Well yeah there are other but im too god damn lazy to go find them so why dont you, and then be like "yay". Well that entry completely lost structure, but who cares, i mean really all thats gonna read this is..i dunno some names child in North Dakota or something. Do people actually live there? Ive always wondered... P.S. Some of you guys take stuff way too seriously. I mean really.

  • Aug. 29, 2001, 12:33 a.m. CST

    I hope Kevin Smith doesn't read this

    by CommanderJesus

    As much as "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" speaks to the contrary, I would like to believe that Kevin Smith is a confident enough artist to do his work for its own sake rather than needing some sort of validation through the Internet. However, I guess that isn't the case since the apparent point of this entire film is to slam "talk-backers". Dear Lord, Kevin! Didn't anyone tell you that as a theme, that has about zero appeal for the rest of the world? The ones of us who aren't thin-skinned film-makers with an ax to grind with anyone who doesn't like our movies? Jesus Christ. I'll admit, I walked out of this movie ANGRY. And I liked your early stuff. Clerks, Mallrats, the first half of Chasing Amy. But this movie went and pissed me off something fierce. It started honestly moments into the film somewhere between the complete misuse of the word fuck and Jason Lee mugging the camera for reasons unknown and it just steadily grew. Overall, this is a self-congratulatory, self-serving, self-referencing, sophomoric, in-joke ladden steaming pile of a movie that leaves me only to guess what sort of bizarre contractual obligations or friendly promises forced the "big names" of this cast to be trapped in such a plotless, visionless mess. I hate to say it. And yet I opened an account on this site just so that I could. I am not a talk-backer. Never done it in my life. I'm a regular movie-goer and I am pissed that I blew money and time on a film that clearly was made as a sort of catharsis for Kevin Smith to make up for all the self-inflicted abuse he's suffered from reading online posts. Rather then accept these messages as a inescapable fact of celebrity or better yet, attempt to understand the mentality behind them, he decides to use his medium to completely blast all those who hurt his feelings. Poor fuckin' guy. I guess the message of the piece is "Anyone who doesn't like my movies can suck it because I don't make bad movies. I make cinematic gems." Aside from its insulting theme, this movie also manages to cram in repeatative uninspired jokes that shouldn't have made it past the first draft about every thirty seconds (mostly of the gay and fart variety) and delivered almost uniformly with some of the worst acting I've ever seen (those chicks are hot, sure, but if they were ugly, they might have actually had to take some acting courses and saved us from cringing through their lines). And its odd because I actually like some of these actors! WHAT THE FUCK!? They probably just realized they didn't want to be there and I guess I can't blame them. Kevin went and pulled a Lucas and fucked his own franchise. Why? God only knows. But, honestly, this is beyond Episode I bad. It took my about a day to realize I was hoodwinked by that movie. I literally began to imagine during this movie experience what clawing my own eyes out would be like. Bottom line, though. I guess the reason I'm so MAD is two-fold. One, because it seems that Kevin Smith thinks he can make a bad movie and get away with it by literally winking at the camera and informing us that it's a bad movie, like we're all in on the joke. The just ain't fair. Here's an idea: how about you don't go for the obvious groaner jokes and actually FUCKING EARN MY 9 BUCKS!? And secondly, because Kevin Smith has now 100% abandoned any sort of clever provocative film-making technique that he showed in Clerks and has clearly decided to half-make movies with painfully bad scripts that will, in the end, appeal only to the lowest common denominator because they have tits and ass. Hooray. This is the end of film as we know it.

  • Aug. 29, 2001, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Damnit, half of you aren't getting it

    by ArchDiver

    And probably never will. This is one of the best road pics to come out in a long time... that's right, a road pic. That's why the theme is familiar to some of you buttmonkeys. KS has done a fantastic job with this, and even if you don't grok on lowbrow, scatalogical humor, if you didn't spend half the time in the theater laughing your ass off, you should really consider checking into a mental hospital. Get locked up now before you humorless, lifeless fucks start to bring the rest of us down. AD out

  • Aug. 30, 2001, 2:04 a.m. CST

    Funny...

    by Bagillbaer

    ... so many peeps crying out for the freedom of saying your opinion... but only as long as this opinion is not against yourselves, right? Oh, but once "the case" occurs and you're forced to actually defend _yourselves_, there's always the possibility to point out the critic's weight, spelling, intelligence, lack of grammar etc and so on and so forth (sorry, if my spelling or grammar sounds bad, this is not my native tongue...). As far as I can see, Harry also got a bit entrapped in this bashing on people's personalities and backgrounds, but I can understand the temptation and I've heard and seen much much worse. And I'm still very sure, that you can say your opinion without hurting anybody's feelings in most cases. At least you could TRY to do so... Cheers

  • Aug. 30, 2001, 5:17 a.m. CST

    The point of the movie

    by torontofan

    I loved Clerks, and Dogma. I thought Smith's best was Chasing Amy and worse Mallrats. I had my doubts about Jay and Silent Bob carrying a movie but Smith got around their 'one-note' characteristics by having them stumble their way through a series of misadventures. I thought it was terrific that the ape kept saving their hides -- that was really funny. And the argument between Damon and Affleck was good but not as good as Jason's cameo. Smith added a lot to the movie to, I thought, make up for the limited development available to Jay's character who virtually carried the movie verbally. Smith's point like Harry's is there isn't anything wrong with Freedom of Speech but the people who abuse this to rant meaningless tripe and just use the Internet to post infantile expletive filled meaningless rants are a waste of time to read. I generally skip those type of posts. Talkbalk is supposed to be about the movie. What did you think of it? If it was garbage why was it garbage? Why did it bring out such strong feelings of disgust, why did you walk out or sit through it. If you liked it why? The trolls that post it was **** or attack the writers, directors, anyone (doesn't have to be about movies all message boards have a troll problem.) just for the ability to say I posted that Kevin Smith was a ****. Well I like Smith's movies on the other hand you can't pay me to sit through Woody Allen's movies I don't like them and could easily state why without attacking Allen as a person even though it so easy. This site is about movies not about the personal lives of anyone including Harry. Just a suggestion after we log in we could block out the posts of the trolls -- other sites have that option and I use it.

  • Aug. 30, 2001, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Fuck Jay and Silent Bob.

    by XManEDS

    Fuck them in their stupid asses. p.s. my home address is 4715 Orion Ave # 107, Sherman Oaks CA; the closest airport is LAX.

  • Aug. 30, 2001, 3:12 p.m. CST

    please remove head from sphincter then post

    by Evil1

    This goes out to LostHighway. I saw this movie. I thought it was funny, so that makes me an idiot, huh? Sorry, but just because someone doesn't share your opinion doesn't them wrong for not agreeing with you. And for everyone else bitching about this...IT'S A FRIGGIN MOVIE! Are you all so poor and/or stingy that 9 bucks really means that much to you? Maybe we should all check with LostHighway next time we go to the movies and make sure we have permission to laugh if there's a joke we find amusing. I don't care who does or doesn't get the previous "inside" jokes in this flick. There's plenty of other stuff that made me laugh on a general basis. You shmucks that feel the need to analyze and interpret every little stupid thing in a movie contradicts the entire reason for going to see a movie in the first place. It was nice seeing people just like you getting their asses beat. After your beating, I want you to say "Oh what a lovely tea party".

  • I could not have said it any better!!!

  • Aug. 31, 2001, 12:36 p.m. CST

    dont talk back back talkers?

    by JOEtastic

    what do you mean dont talk back to talkbackers? are you dense? you just want to say stuff as long as nobody responds? Smith is a genuise, and as for the guy who said he read the superman script by smith...which one of the 100 scripys by smith was it? comeon man you read a fake...wake up!

  • Aug. 31, 2001, 8:15 p.m. CST

    My opinion...

    by Bad Guy

    first of all, Harry, that was a horrible "review". Was that a review? I'm not sure. Anyway, the movie was hilarious. One of Smith's best. Sure, a lot of it was childish, sophomoric, etc., but I'll be damned if it didn't have me and most of the audience laughing hysterically. Even my girlfriend, who has never seen a Kevin Smith film, laughed through most of it, which proves that you don't have to have seen all of the previous films in order to "get" the jokes in this one. Some of the cameos were VERY funny: Carrie Fisher, James Van Derbeek, Jason Biggs, Mark Hamill, George Carlin, Damon & Affleck. One was just okay: Chris Rock (the "angry black man" bit is getting a little old). I loved all of the pop culture refferences, sorry, but I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. One of my favorites was the cast of "Reservoir Dogs" walking in the background when Jay and Bob are wandering around the movie lot. Don't blink or you'll miss it. All in all, a great send-off to this quirky world that KS has created for us to enjoy. Peace.

  • Sept. 3, 2001, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Your all fucking next

    by Jay n Silent Bob

    All you motherfuckers are gonna pay, You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em at our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all fucking next. Love, Jay and Silent Bob

  • If you have a chance to pick up the graphic novel collection of Daredevil issues 1-8, I can't recommend it enough. It may be the greatest comic book story arc I've ever been priviledged to read... and it's a serious, dramatic work, highlighted by the outstanding talents of Joe Quesada and Jimmy Palmiotti, in my opinion the best team of artist and tracer in the business today. (Oh, and really take a look at the panels here to truly grasp the role of a tracer. The texture, the shadows... it shows more brilliantly here than in any book I can recall.) The very emotion of the character Smith wrote is laid out in pencil and ink better than any movie could hope to. I saw Jay and Silent Bob at the Saturday sneak preview, and I have to say, it was one of the greatest screenings I've ever attended. Nonstop laughter from the audience, who obviously had seen the other films so many times that they got every in-joke, as I did. Standing ovations for popular characters and cameos (John Stewart got a round of applause, for a short, non-joke cameo... what a geek crowd!) The three later screenings I saw after it opened were not as fun. I felt out of place... nobody was laughing, and even the dick and fart humor seemed like it went over the heads of the audience, made up of mostly 13-year-old Britney clones and High School jocks preparing to rape their dates in the parking lot. And they all left as the credits started, even though the movie was still rolling in the background! By the third time, it became like a Rocky Horror-type screening for my crowd, full of tradition, like yelling "Is that the guy from Dawson?" at the same exact moment the little girls in front of us would, without fail. This is a very funny movie, especially if you leave your pretensions at home. I can't help thinking this would be better on DVD with a bunch of geek friends than at the "We've already seen Rush Hour 2 three times, what do we see now?" crowds you'll get at the multiplex. Oh, and, since this is a standard topic of conversation among Kevin Smith fans, I rank the movies: 1. Mallrats 2. J&SBSB 3. Clerks 4. Chasing Amy 5. Dogma

  • Sept. 4, 2001, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Just saw the movie

    by EvilTommy

    A hilarious movie to say the least! It's not for everybody, but if you have followed the series, you gotta enjoy the finale! There were so many inside jokes regarding the previous movies, the actors, and even the audience, that I was thoroughly amused for the duration. Kudos to Kevin Smith & Co.

  • Sept. 8, 2001, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Kev is my hero

    by Krug

    I can honestly say this is my second fav. view askew film(next to Clerks of course which is the best)His cameos alone were the best, but the fact that he got a bunch of tennie-boppers to basically just poke fun of themselves was awesome.You have to admit though, most of them wouldn't.Of course Freddie Prinz turned down the offer. And the Phantoms!Funny as shit. I think my favorite though was Gus in the Good Will Hunting 2.Kevin outdid himself with this one!

  • Sept. 8, 2001, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith ... Poster Child for self indulgent independent cine

    by KellyFaboo

    While I tend to actually LIKE Kevin Smith's personal cinema (It's kinda refreshing in a way) I'm wondering if it's gone too far. I mean while ALOT of small budget independent film actually are worse than a Kevin Smith movie (I Love My Movie for starters... Oh and has anyone been blessed with the opportunity to see The Doorman?) some stuff is REALLY good and it'll never find it's way outside inclusive film festivals. Then you see Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back getting actually MONEY spent on it... While I was amused by the movie I think I'd feel a whole less guilty for watching it if they shot it on scratchy 16mm and I had to go to a funky theater to watch it.

  • Sept. 8, 2001, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Harry is a fat dumb fuck

    by Majestrate

    Harry writes this review as if he knows exactly what Kevin Smith is talking about and they are on the same page. Fuck you Harry. It is clear often in the movie that Smith takes shot at you and your site directly. Did you notice in the movie poop shoot scene that the name of the reporter is Harry Balls. That's your name douche bag. And at the end of the closing credits he makes two reference to AICN, one to the posters on the talk back. So Harry, go shave your ass and watch some movie that is COOOOOOOOOOOL. This movie sucked ass in the Mallrats vein, btw. It was entertaining, but not as entertaining as "it's a cosmic shame" by tenacious d

  • Sept. 9, 2001, 2:48 p.m. CST

    The good with the bad.

    by RowanM

    Having spent the best part of 30 minutes reading the talk back here, I felt compelled to register a few opinions of my own. First off....Harry. I click on to your site on a semi regular basis to read on any new developing stories on LOTR. a film I've been eagerly awaiting since the news first broke years ago. That and anything else that might be of interest. I rarely read your reviews. and when I do, it's usually after I've seen the movie myself. Your review on Kevin Smith's latest left three impressions on me. It attacks talkbackers, It features great wanking material and it gives scope to heaving something huge off your chest. Hey! It's your website. Fuck it, fuck them. Do what you like. Okay, I didn't read a good review. No problem. I'll read about it somewhere else. I'm a well educated Irishman with an Irishman's perspective on American way of life. Frankly, I'm not impressed. But that's a different story. As for Kevin Smith. I have huge respect for the guy. Clerks was like a breath of fresh air for me. Most of the stuff we watch on tv over here are American shows. We cannot escape the magnetising effect that the American media has pushed onto us in terms of lifestyles and trends. Kevin writes a lot it seems from his own personal experiences and attitudes. He knew the job was dangerous when he took it. Ask anyone who likes movies, anywhere in an english speaking country or not. They have heard of him. Not bad for a guy who started off on a smallish budget. People will pay to watch his movies, Chasing Amy was my personal favourite, Dogma made me think (And I'm a Catholic for God's sake). My opinion on most of the talkbackers here are that these are people with an opinion that other people don't care about. It seems like people want to talk but don't have anything of real value to say. Other than following the trend of what the other witty yet ignorant fuck had just written. With that said, there were a few valid points made. At the end of the day it's Harry's site. He has an enviable job. With fame comes ridicule. Accept that. Yet Harry can just raise his middle finger and declare his major pull in the Hollywood business. Look what effect his site had on Rollerball. He's mixing it with the big shots, you're not. I think his job is still secure regardless of the backlash inflicted on him from people who simply don't know any better. That's me said. Rowan is my real name. Ireland is an island nation off the West Coast of Europe. A world does exist outside the good old U.S of A you know. Axe grounded, SLAN ABHAILE.

  • Sept. 10, 2001, 11:58 a.m. CST

    J & B Funny as hell...

    by Darko Kerim

    Harry was right. It may not be his best, and smith is still a sloppy director, but this film is laugh-out-loud funny! Best scene? The Scooby-Doo van ride!!

  • Sept. 10, 2001, 11:57 p.m. CST

    I went and saw this movie the other night

    by maplebob

    I was dumbfounded. I've been reading nothing but positive reviews for this movie, but I didn't really like the trailer so I wasn't gonna see it, then I thought "Y'know I thought Dogma and Chasing Amy were fucking shitty, but I did like parts of Mallrats and Clerks." So then I thought "Y'know maybe if Kevin Smith isn't trying to tackle any kind of plot and is just kickin back makin jokes again, I'll have fun watching this one." But boy was I wrong. I left the movie so goddam depressed, man, it was terrible. People looking at the camera? Whaaat?! Referential comedy out the ass? Whaaaat?! Dude, I was creeped out at the entire world for embracing this ball of shit. One thing I did like is how much like a crazy drunk Ben Affleck looks in this movie. Rock on, Affleck, sorry you had to go to rehab, I'll smoke a blizzie in your honor.

  • Sept. 17, 2001, 12:23 p.m. CST

    relax

    by The Tom Servo's

    Let's not get our asses in a twitch here people! While talkback provides an excellent medium for people to express them selves,there is a world of difference between having an opinion and tearing someone a new asshole. Most of these people put there blood, sweat and tears into making these films for peoeple like YOU and then you go and spit back in thier faces because you "Didn't like the movie (in the tone of a 4 year old in toys'r'us who can't get his mom to buy him a toy)." If you don't like the movies, great. Thoughtful criticism is necessary to making people better at what they do, but outright person bashing is crude, unintelligent and totally biased which makes it as meaningless as the thoughts that you squeeze from your tight assholes. If you're so fucking right, then you make the movies. That would be funny!

  • Sept. 18, 2001, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Hey NoTime4LoveDrJ et al.

    by Tobaira

    Kevin Smith, may just be a fat guy in a trench coat. But he has more talent is his pinky finger than you have in your pinky finger. Hmmmmm....by the way is being able to write and direct and all the other things (as you said) what movies are about. You probably didn't like Scary Movie either. Ah brains are wasted on the undeserving. I loved Jay and Silent Bob. They are what we all think and don't say....or in Jay's case, say explicitly. The movie was a tribute to every Kevin Smith fan, who peed in their pants when they see his movies. kevin smith, brings out the best in his actors, making movie "magic", I for one don't like Ben Affleck, but in a Kevin Smith movie, he shines. Even Dawson was funny. Man anyone who can make Dawson funny, deserves a gold star in my book. Can you believe that was Judd Nelson, I thought he was going to pop with his Leather Jacket and diamond earring. And Will Ferrell, is just as funny as ever. And Carrie Fisher, LMAO. Princess Leia (sp?) was going to be eaten out by Jay!!!!! And I will admit boys, that the 4 girls in the black, even got me a little worked up. :) These are the humble opinions of at 120 year old woman with a limp. Chow.

  • Sept. 20, 2001, 10:13 p.m. CST

    The Fall of Mark Hamill

    by CaptJackZodiac

    From Luke Skywalker to Cock-Knocker. It'd be more dignified if he just came to the realization his career has been over for 20 years and get a job in a Blockbuster. I honestly felt pain for him seeing him up there on screen like that, looking like he agreed to star in a buddy's home movie. Worse yet, this is the best part he's had in 15 years. How sad is that? This guy was once the star of Star Wars?? Astonishing. - Capt. Jack

  • Sept. 29, 2001, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Emerald Eyes, you're crazy, out of touch, etc...

    by Jeff Batt

    First of all, I've never been on this site before but I had to register because I could tell you're the kind of arrogant prick that needs to be told off. I don't have a lot of time right now but I first want to express how I don't understand the arrogance that people like you have for the movie industry. It's entertainment for God's sake!!!!! Why you believe that someone must have a degree from a film school to critique a damn movie is beyond me. It should be "Do I like the movie, or was it a bad movie" None of this artsy fartsy bullshit!!! There just freaking movies!!!! No one's opinion is better than anyone elses. Also, As for our Commander-In-Cheif, he is not illiterate, he went to an Ivy League school just like your boy Gore. He flew fighter jets in the National Guard which I don't think an "idiot" could learn. And if you want to win an election, don't count on digging up DWI records from 20 years ago 4 days before the election because you're losing to a guy you should have beat by 10 points. You also shouldn't count on illiterate voters who can't figure out a damn voting machine to win you elections while you throw out absentee ballots from military personnel overseas!!!! I wouldn't want a vote from those morons in Florida that couldn't figure out how to vote!!! Sorry I went political on this web site but I'll bet Ol' Emerald Eyes is glad we have a real man in the White House now instead of wooden little Gore.

  • Oct. 2, 2001, 8:02 a.m. CST

    And this has to do with Mark Hamill in what way?

    by matrix_sux

    I love Off topic stuff!

  • Aug. 21, 2003, 9:49 p.m. CST

    I love talkback assholes comments

    by Archduke_Chocula

    They're fucking off the wall......