Father Geek here with another delightful insightful interview from our resident Quatermass experiment Quint...
Ahoy there, squirts. O Tis I, the Chinese Turkey lovin1, Red Ryder
shootin1 and completely crusty seaman, Quint here, just back from a night of
viewing the soft glow of electric sex and getting... things... stuck to
flagpoles. I1m all better now and I1d like to give you folks a look into the
life of Peter Billingsley, Master Ralphie Parker himself, who headed up the
cast on one of the most universally loved films of all time, A Christmas
Story.
This round of scar sharin1 was full of twists and turns,
squirties. We did this interview at the local Four Seasons hotel on Cinco de
Mayo, the day after Jon Favreau1s new film, MADE, premiered at the Alamo
Drafthouse Cinema. You see, Pete1s a producer now and was working behind the
scenes on this particular film. During the interview, somebody... surprising
interrupted us and chatted for a bit. Who, you may be asking yourself? Well,
you1ll just have to read it to find out.
Here1s the interview, squirts. Have fun. I1ll see you on the other
side.
QUINT: LET'S START AT THE BEGINNING. YOU STARTED ACTING IN
COMMERCIALS, RIGHT?
PETER BILLINGSLEY: I started in New York when I was 2 and a half
and my mom... she didn't know anything about the business at all and my
brother and I were blonde and, I guess, kinda cute and she thought it might
be fun to get, like, a little print ad in The Times in my little sailor suit
or something to put in the scrapbook. I mean, she had no idea about the
business at all.
So, she took us to a couple agencies and the first one said,
"They're too fat," and she was all, "My kids aren't fat!" Then they said,
"They're extremely ugly." She was beaten up and finished with the business
after a couple of meetings. She said, "I'll try one more," and this lady
said, "Yeah, they'll work," and I went on an audition.
The first audition I went on was a commercial for Geritol and
Betty Buckley was the mom. She's just, like, holding a bunch of kids and she
said, "You know, when you have kids like these you need to take Geritol
twice a day." So, I just stood there in the audition. I got it! It was the
very first one I ever went in on. I got the job.
It's kinda sad, but my first real childhood memory that I can
connect with was shooting that day, when I was 2 and half. I was terrified
of the camera! They gave me a little truck to play with and I threw the
truck at the camera. (laughs) I was not a very good specimen for this
business. Then, I think the director said, "Hey, you're getting paid for
it," but I didn't have any concept of that, like a check. I didn't know what
any of it meant. Then he said, "What do you like?" And I liked the little
penny candy shop and I knew that I could go in and for a penny get a little
baggy and fill it up. My mom would, like, give me a nickel and a dime. He
gave me a dollar and he said, "I'll give you this if you behave." I knew
that meant 100 pieces of candy and I was the best behaved person. You know,
I was probably making $500 for the day, but it was that one dollar bill... I
didn't say a word for the rest of the day. I was perfectly behaved.
So, that started and I just started doing commercials and stuff.
Then I did some movies, a little bit of TV stuff. I did a movie called...
(pause) I think the first movie I did was If Ever I See You Again, with Joel
Brooks. I don't know if that made the light of day or not. Things started to
grow from there.
Then my dad wanted to get out of New York City and we moved to Los
Angeles very briefly, but he didn't like it at all, so I was raised in
Phoenix after that. Then I'd commute between LA and Phoenix and it just
kinda kept going.
Q: AWESOME. SO, THEN YOU GOT THE GIG OF A LIFETIME IN A CHRISTMAS
STORY.
PB: Yeah, absolutely. It was a pretty standard audition. I'd gone
in on it, liked the script obviously, read for it and didn't hear anything
for a long time. So, you figure "Whatever." You audition for tons of stuff.
When I was a kid, the amount of auditions... you'd have sometimes 4 and 5
calls a day.
Then, like, a month later I got a call saying, "They want you to
screen test and you have to come up to Canada." So, I flew up to Canada for
the screen test and these are nerve wracking things, these screen tests,
because it's always mixing and matching. It's like you with a Flick and then
they're switching out all the kids. All those are the kids that are reading
for the Ralphie role, too, and then they'll have you read the Flick part, so
you'll never really know what it is.
It's sad because they always try to make it like a really fun
party vibe, but even at 12, you know, you have butterflies in your stomach.
And they're just trying to make it, like, "Oh, it's fun! Now you get to play
with him on this turn!" I'm all, "Look, motherfucker. I ain't playin' that
role. I'm gonna be Ralphie. I ain't gonna be Flick!" (laughs) Everyone knows
and everyone's thinking the same stuff, all these little pint sized guys
with their moms waiting outside. So, you get savvy quickly, I think.
Q: SCREEN TESTS ARE A REALLY INTERESTING PART OF THE PROCESS FOR
ME. IN FACT, I'VE SEEN A BOOTLEG TAPE OF ABOUT AN HOURS WORTH OF SCREEN
TESTS FOR THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THOSE?
PB: No, I haven't.
Q: THEY'RE PRETTY DAMN FUNNY. IT'S AN HOUR OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE
READING FOR THE ROLES OF HAN SOLO, LUKE SKYWALKER AND LEIA AND IT'S NOT EVEN
A SCENE THAT IS IN THE FILM.
PB: Oh, really? (laughs)
Q: IT'S SO CHEESY. IT'S LIKE, LOOK HOW BAD STAR WARS COULD HAVE
BEEN. ANYWAY, IT'S JUST REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THESE ICONIC CHARACTERS
BEING PORTRAYED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THERE'S ONE OF WILLIAM KATT, THE GUY
WITH THE PERM FROM CARRIE, READING FOR BOTH LUKE AND HAN, PERM INTACT. THEN
THERE'S KURT RUSSELL READING FOR HAN.
PB: (laughing) That's so funny.
Q: I DON'T KNOW. SCREEN TESTING HAS ALWAYS JUST BEEN INSANELY
INTERESTING FOR ME.
PB: And it's sort of a... It's a strange world as a kid. You know,
kids are kids and you want to cause trouble and have fun and be care free,
but you're put in this position where you have to be an adult. You're given
a huge amount of responsibility, so you grow up quickly. I was blessed
because I had a really good family, so things were kept in perspective. It
was always an honor, it was a privilege to be doing things. It wasn't that I
was a man. I was not like little Wow Bow Wow, you know. I was not like a
young shock collar.
So, it was different in the sense that my folks, compared with a
lot of peers that I'd seen... it's just really sort of an interesting thing.
You know, by the time you're 12 and you're competing for a role, you really
know what's going on and you have a real sense of how the game works.
Q: I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU THIS FILM HAS A MASSIVE FAN BASE...
PB: Yeah. I'm thrilled and blessed that it's gotten the following
that it has and Turner loves it and plays it on TNT and everything. It's
just, you know, it's fun. It's really fun to be a part of something. I think
that's what you hope for when you're doing stuff 'cause you want to have
some footprints in the past. You want to have some sense of immortality. I'm
thrilled that I'd gotten that lucky, really.
Q: SO IT DOESN'T WEIRD YOU OUT THAT AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME YOU'LL
FIND YOURSELF WATCHING 24 STRAIGHT HOURS OF YOU ON THE TV?
PB: It's... yeeeaaahhhh. It's kinda interesting. (laughs) I'm now
at the point where I can watch the movie and appreciate it. You know, for a
long time you watch it and I'm like, "That's not funny. I know how we did
that." You have these memories connected with the role. I can really
appreciate it now as a movie and see it and enjoy it.
Q: YOU WORKED WITH A YOUNG MAN NAMED SCOTT SCHWARTZ ON A CHRISTMAS
STORY. HE PLAYED FLICK. HIS CAREER ENDED UP GOING IN A RADICALLY DIFFERENT
DIRECTION THAN YOURS DID. HE'S NOW A PORN STAR AND YOU'RE A PRODUCER. WHY DO
YOU THINK YOU GUYS ENDED UP DOING SUCH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS? WHAT WAS
IT THAT KEPT YOU FROM BECOMING "PETER BILLINGSLEY: PORN STAR!"?
PB: Um, I guess people read a lot about the negative outcomes of
numerous actors. We've heard a lot about the sitcom people who fought drug
abuse and sorta slipped into a life of crime. It can be a life that's filled
with oddity in that you're a celebrity at a young age and you're still
trying to form your identity. I was very blessed the insulation of a great
family. I was not raised in California, I was raised in Phoenix. I had two
brothers and two sisters, phenomenal parents. They sacrificed a lot, but
didn't sacrifice too much. They made sure I always had a balanced life. I
had a bright, tough, loving dad who was doing very well for himself on his
own.
So, I had a different upbringing and I had a great structure and I
had a great balance always in my life. I think the priorities were always
correct. I mean, this was something that was always looked at as a privilege
for me to be doing, not as though I was the most special kid on the planet
and should be treated as such. You know, the cuteness can wear off and the
magic can fade away and I think unless you have the right foundation things
get awry and you can get panicky and wanting to chase things.
Now, this is not a comparison specifically because I don't want to
address necessarily that specifically because I haven't really talked with
him and I don't know where his head is.
But you hear a lot of stories. There's a lot of good stories, too.
I just saw Soliel Moon Frye on a piece. ET was doing a Where Are They Now?
TV star thing. She's on Sabrina and seems to be a very well adjusted girl. I
spent some time with her and her family when I was younger. She always had a
great background. She was really close to her brother and had a great
mother.
I think that's really the difference. It's sort of a travesty when
kids don't inherit that naturally. I just know how blessed I was and in
looking back I can't say enough great things about, in particular, my mom
who just made a lot of sacrifices. There were times when I wanted to be out
west and I could have been working more, but the answer was, "No, you're
going to be raised in a very, very normal environment."
So, I think with that, I had a good structure. I've always been a
really, really motivated person and wanted to turn it into something
positive in a new way. Fortunately, I had the tools from my upbringing to do
that. Obviously, at some point in every adult's life, regardless of your
past, you have to take responsibility for yourself.
It's probably not really the witty or clever answers you wanted,
but it's really the truth. I grew up with a lot of these kids and I saw a
lot of their families and I saw both sides of it and the outcomes are pretty
predictable when you realize the home environment that they were in. It
seems to be when they didn't have the support, the outcome was not positive,
but when they did, it was wildly positive. A lot of people got out of the
business. They're well adjusted and happy and loving people.
Q: NO, NO. THAT'S EXACTLY THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. I DIDN'T
EXPECT YOU TO START KNOCKING ON THE GUY OR ANYTHING.
PB: But you know, as I said, I really haven't really kept up with
Scotty and I hope he's at a good place. I hope he's happy and I certainly
root for him.
Q: FROM WHAT I'VE READ, HE'S REALLY HAPPY WITH WHAT HE'S DOING
NOW.
PB: Well, good. If that makes him happy, then I'm certainly
pleased for him. I certainly wish everyone the best from that film. Again,
it was an amazing experience and at that time we all collectively gelled and
we came together to make something magical.
Q: WELL, I DUG DEEP INTO THE SEAMAN ARCHIVES LAST NIGHT AND FOUND
THIS. [I whip out an original press kit for A Christmas Story and Peter goes
through it, smiling.]
PB: Oh, wow. Yes. You got the glossies, too.
Q: YEP, THEY SAY YOU'RE A "REAL KID."
PB: A real kid. Is that in there?
Q: YEAH, THAT AND THEY SAY YOU HAVE AN I.Q. OF 150.
PB: Whatever. (laughs) I love those press kits! Precocious is a
word they like to use. They're going to spin it somewhat... That's funny.
You know, I think I have one of these left. Do you have the money shot? [HE
ASKS AS HE'S GOING THROUGH THE 8X10 BLACK AND WHITE GLOSSIES. HE FINDS ONE
OF RALPHIE FROM THE FIRST DAYDREAM SEQUENCE IN THE FILM, DRESSED UP IN A
STUDDED COWBOY SUIT HOLDING "OLD BLUE."] Yeah, there it is. This is great to
have. These are the original glossies, too. Way cool.
Yeah, "real kid." I did a show called... Do you remember Real
People? That was a show like That's Incredible, but it was Sarah Percel and
Skip Stevenson. It was on for 6 years, I think on NBC. I was the host on
that for 3 years. Then they had a show called Real Kids, which I think they
were trying to push (in the press kit). We lasted for 2 shows.
Actually, River Phoenix, it was before he had started, did
audience warm up on the show. It was a collection of kids and I guess they
thought it was going to be the next thing, but obviously it wasn't. Nobody
ever heard of it.
Q: YOU DID A LOT OF OTHER TV STUFF AROUND THAT TIME, TOO. YOU DID
FAMILY FEUD.
PB: Yeah, I did, but what I'm more proud of is Celebrity Hot
Potato. We had host Bill Cohen, which was great. Somebody called me recently
and said that they had seen it. That was pretty fun. I never did, like,
Battle of the Network Stars because I was never really on a network show.
I did do Family Feud with Richard Dawson, which was really cool.
Smoochin' all my little peers. Like all the little girls on the series,
givin' 'em kisses and everything. Insane guy. (laughs) It was the '80s, it
was this kind of time. They were hot shows that were on the air and I was
very proud to be a part of them.
Q: WELL, YOU WERE ON ONE OF MY FAVORITES... THE FIRST CRUSH I EVER
HAD WAS ON PUNKY BREWSTER.
PB: Oh, really? Well, that was pretty cool. I don't know how that
came up. Probably just a typical thing. That was one of the few... I played
a real little shit, I played a little sort of bad guy on that. I don't know
what it was. I did one episode and they said, "Do you want to do another
one?"
In one, I was shoplifting and was trying to get Punky to steal
stuff from the local mall. (laughs) Then the other one... Remember when
those radio controlled cars were in, those little dirt cars. They were
really in and you had to get one. (In the other episode) my dad had built
for me a dirt track and I was the guy with all the cars. Then Punky came
over to play and I kept knocking her car out of the race. I broke her car! I
don't know why I was that guy all of a sudden. (laughs) I was a real mean
guy to Punky. Then she came back and won the race or something. Foiled again
by Punky!!! (laughs)
Then I did Who's the Boss, which was fun, too.
Q: LET'S NOT FORGET WONDER YEARS.
PB: That's right. Yeah, I did the last couple episodes of that.
That was interesting because they were smart. Robert McKeith teaches a story
structure class. I don't know if you know him, but he's sort of a big story
structure guy and he was talking about genres of film. He said that there
hasn't been a new genre of film. You know, genres are genres.
But then he said, "There's one film that's a little perplexing to
me because it's almost a new genre." And he said A Christmas Story. He said
the style of the narration and the action creates a completely different
feel, where it's in first person. It's not like a lead in narration to say,
like, "This was the greatest summer of my life," and you play the story.
It's an interactive part of the story. You don't see it a lot and I think
Wonder Years was smart to do something of that ilk. It was an effective
show. I liked it a lot.
Q: AFTER A CHRISTMAS STORY, I BELIEVE YOU DID A TV MOVIE... [He
has a confused look on his face, so I clarify.] SOMETHING ABOUT A GIANT
CHICKEN?
PB: Oh, yes. The Hoboken Chicken Emergency, would be Hoboken, New
Jersey and the chicken emergency that ensued that one year. It was for the
Wonderworks series. This one, it was sort of a broken home and I got the
last $100 and was supposed to go to buy a turkey for Thanksgiving. But I got
sidetracked by this mad scientist who had grown a 7-foot chicken. A guy in a
chicken suit, sweatin' all day.
So, I bought that and brought it home. I showed it my mom and she
got very upset. She didn't really acknowledge the fact that it was a big
chicken, she was more upset at me for not getting a turkey. And I became
friends with it and its name was Henrietta. I don't know, but... (laughs)...
it was what it was!
It was sorta one of their launching pads and I had to do some
press work. They also had some other troll movie with this other little
actor. They had a whole series of things. So, there was this little 8 city
tour planned to go promote these things and it was just at a time when I was
doing a lot of stuff. My dad had always said, "With this stuff, the best
thing to do is just be honest. If you get a little tongue tied up there,
just be honest."
So, all the press people are there and I'm on this podium and they
say, "Do you watch PBS?" And I said, "Well, to be honest, what I like most
are the animal programs. I watch those a lot and I really, really like
those. That's probably the most stuff that I watch." I grew up on stuff like
Sesame Street, but I had sort of outgrown that. I was about 12. They said,
"Well, what do you like?" And I said, "Personally, I like violence."
(laughs) I said, "I love the A-Team. I watch The Dukes of Hazard. These are
my shows." (laughs) That's what the story was: "Wonderworks spokesman likes
violence!" I was asked to be removed from the panel and not allowed to do
anymore interviews until it was finished. The Hoboken Chicken Emergency
died. (laughs) That was it.
Q: ACCORDING TO IMBD, YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS
AFTER THAT. IS THERE A REASON YOU TOOK A BREAK?
PB: After Hoboken?
Q: UH-HUH.
PB: Oh, really? I don't know, those days were really weird. I'm
trying to think... I worked very consistently until I was 18, then I took
some time to do college. But, I mean, I'd do TV movies, small movies. I kept
doing stuff in that time period and liked it. By the time I was, like, 17 I
hadn't really gone to that much school. I had gone to K through 3 and then
4, 5, 6, 7 I had tutors. I made it half a year of 8th grade, then I left to
go make The Dirt Bike Kid at the end of 8th grade, so they didn't give me
credit. I got held back for that year. Then I had a tutor for 9th grade.
Then I went into high school, started at 9th grade and didn't finish high
school.
So, it was like I was never really in school. It was a great life,
but you know, I thought it'd be fun to just go to college for a year. I got
my California High School Efficiency Exam, like my GED, when I was 14. Not
like that was a great feat. The math questions were like: You have two
dimes, three quarters and a nickel. How much money do you have? The toughest
questions were: 2x = 12. What does x equal? So, I breezed through that
pretty easily. Then went to Phoenix College in Arizona and did some stuff
after that.
I was at a point where I wanted to make a change and I started
looking at behind the scenes stuff. So, I got offered this movie which
wasn't tops on my list to do, a movie called Arcade. I asked them for an
apprenticeship to edit the movie. I figured, here's a good way to start. So,
that movie, oddly, became my film school. I showed up for my apprenticeship
to edit it and (the editor) didn't have an assistant, so I became the
assistant on the first day, basically.
I had a great time in the cutting room. The movie they had screwed
up technically, so it was rejected by Paramount. So, I get a phone call a
year later from this guy saying, "I'm reopening up Arcade so they can get it
released. I'm redoing all the effects. I know you were on it. Do you want to
recut it?" So, I went from apprentice to assistant to editor on the same
movie. I got a chance to recut the movie and really take it through post.
The movie was what it was, but as an experience just to be able to take
something through all that process was something which was pretty cool for
me.
What I didn't want to do was to take everything I had done as an
actor and just say, "Well, let me breeze into a position of a high level." I
wanted to start and learn from the ground up.
Q: YOU EDITED ANOTHER FEATURE, RIGHT?
PB: Yeah, I worked on another feature called Nights as an editor.
It was released under a bunch of different names. (laughs)
Q: LET'S SEE WHAT THE NAME I WROTE DOWN WAS... IT WAS... PATRIOT
SON.
PB: Oh, God! Yeah. You're right! Jesus. That's right.
[AT THIS POINT WE GET A VISIT FROM NONE OTHER THAN VINCE VAUGHN
HIMSELF, LOOKING VERY RUGGED AND TIRED... AND A BIT HUNG OVER]
VINCE VAUGHN (TO PETER): How ya doin'?
PB (to VINCE): Hey, man. You guys wanna take off?
VINCE (to PB): Naw, it's alright. I'm gonna have a soda or
something.
PB: OK. We'll wrap this up in, what? Ten minutes or so?
Q: YEAH, NO MORE THAN 10 MINUTES.
VINCE: OK. Cool. [THEN VINCE TURNS TO ME] Hey, man. Are there any
celebrations goin' on? [IT WAS CINCO DE MAYO, AFTER ALL]
Q: UM... NOT THAT I'VE HEARD OF.
VINCE: Nada?
Q: I'M SURE THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME HUGE PARTIES AROUND DOWNTOWN,
THOUGH.
VINCE: Any, like, bands or anything playing tonight that you know
of?
Q: I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC BANDS, BUT IF YOU GO DOWN TO 6TH
STREET, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE HOPPIN' TONIGHT.
VINCE: It's gonna be some crazy vibe goin' on...
PB (to VINCE): Sean called and said Alex, from Star Gun, is going
to call some friends and see what's going on. But he's going to figure out
what the hell's going on.
VINCE (to Peter): Do you have any cigarettes?
PB: No, I don't, but there's a gift shop right there. [THEN VINCE
WANDERS AWAY FROM OUR TABLE TOWARDS THE GIFT SHOP] Umm....
Q: PATRIOT SUN.
PB: Yeah, Patriot Sun... So, I followed it through post a little
bit, I cut some trailers and stuff, and was kinda just doing anything I
could do in post because the handful of people that I had spoken to about me
wanting to get to the other side, they said, "Go through the cutting room."
It wasn't necessarily that I wanted to direct. I didn't know what it was,
but I just wanted to learn and they said start there, learn there, spend
some time there because in a lot of people's opinions it's where the
majority of the story, after you have a wonderful script, it's where it's
constructed. It's where a film can live or die by the edit.
Particularly after going through this journey on Made. I was
talking to Harry about that and he said Coppola was the same way and the way
he tests his movies... Even Made... Shit, our first cut was 2 hours and 30
minutes.
Q: HOW LONG IS THE CUT NOW?
PB: One hour 34 minutes. I was dozin' the first time I saw it. I
mean, I was excited to see it, I was just like, "Holy shit!" So, it was
smart and it was really good for me to go through that from the ground up.
Q: YOU WERE A PRODUCER ON THE X SHOW. HOW'D YOU GET INTO
PRODUCING?
PB: I had optioned a couple of shows to produce, but nothing that
ever went. I had written some things for some production companies, but
nothing that ever went. A friend of mine got The X Show set up and asked me
to come on.
From there, I certainly wanted to continue that work and work in
film. I had known Vince for 12 years... We met on an afterschool special The
Fourth Man...
Q: AND HE WAS PLAYING...
PB: He was... I was The Fourth Man, the catch phrase for the
fourth man on a four man track team. I was a nerdy guy and he was my best
friend, he was an athlete. My dad in the show was an athlete and I always
looked up to him. I had never measured up in my dad's eyes, so I'm hanging
out in this sporting goods store and I decided I'm going out for the track
team. I made it, but I'm the fifth guy. My character really wanted to start
on the team, just for my dad, once! And someone says, "You know, steroids
can make you faster!" [WE BOTH LAUGH... A LOT.]
So, I'm like, "Really?" So, he goes through this whole thing...
Hmmm. I don't have a short sleeve shirt on. [HE OBVIOUSLY WANTS TO
DEMONSTRATE SOMETHING TO ME, AND I'M WEARING A SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT, SO I
EXTEND MY ARM] OK. Here's you not on steroids. [JUST MY ARM] Here's you on
steroids. [HE FLIPS UP MY SLEEVE, LIKE WHAT YOU'D DO IF YOU WERE A TEENAGER
IN THE '50S AND NEEDED A PLACE TO PUT YOUR PACK OF SMOKES] (laughs)
VINCE (from across the room, over by the bar): You guys want
anything to drink?
PB: No, I'm good. Thank you.
Q: I'M FINE. THANKS.
PB: Thank you very much. [BACK TO ME] And that was it. I was like,
"I'm 140 pounds. What are you going to do when I'm on steroids?" They said,
"Don't worry about it. We have an idea!" (laughs) That was great. Then I got
a couple jets. And then he's (Vince) is like, "You're not the same anymore,
man!" And I'm, like, "Yeah, I'm growin' up now and you're just jealous!"
(laughs)
And then I go and finally my dad's there and he's proud of me, he
doesn't know I'm takin' the juice. He's there for big race. I go, I get the
baton, I'm running, I got the lead and I can see the finish line ahead and
then I go, "Uhhhh" (HE GRABS HIS CHEST) and I get the heart attack. Smash
cut to the hospital and the four page monologue about how your nuts will
shrink, your hair'll fall out. (laughs) And he's like, "Wow, man! I had no
idea!" So, that's how we met.
I'm sorta putting it down, which I'm not meaning to at all [SO HE
SAYS, BUT HE'S GOT A LITTLE GRIN WHEN SAYING THAT LAST BIT], it was actually
really cool. We just looked at it and you know... it's pretty damn cool. And
John Tesh did the music for it. We were watching it and we didn't know that.
We watched the credits and I went, "Holy shit! John Tesh did the music for
that thing!"
Q: SO, MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT MADE A LITTLE BIT...
PB: Yeah, probably. So, yeah... that sorta leads us to it. So, I
was doing this stuff and met Jon after they met on Rudy and we all hung out.
They said they were in the process of getting this picture set up over at
Artisan and it was structured as a negative pickup and they needed some help
doing it and would I like to help? So, it was a great opportunity.
Certainly, I knew and trusted Vince and had known Jon a few years at point.
We sorta started out and it was myself and Vince and line producer
John Stark and the four of us really had the responsibility of getting it
done. Then after shooting it's just sorta been me and these two guys for the
past 8 months just figuring it out. So, the blessing of it is that you have
the autonomy, then you have the ability to in large part do what you what.
Favrau was able to attain final cut, but the responsibility is you don't
have the benefit of the studio managing the books, so it's your team that
has to do it.
You can do what you want to do, but you can't get any more money,
so you got to make sure you're planning everything out properly. So, there
was a certain amount of responsibility that came with it for us, but we were
able to set things up really effectively to create an environment to really
cut effectively and to experiment with test screenings. Artisan has been
really supportive of the project. It's been a real thrill and I'm real
thankful to these guys for the opportunity to have gotten to work on this
film. We've all gotten along great and all our friendships have endured. Now
we just got our fingers crossed. We certainly had a positive response last
night, which is great. We've been all together on this for 14 months.
Q: DO YOU SEE YOURSELF WORKING AS A PRODUCER NOW EXCLUSIVELY?
PB: I think so. I really enjoy it and it seems what I'm suited for
at this time. It's not that I rule out acting by any means and it's
something that I'd certainly like to go back to, but I've done it for a long
time. I've been blessed with a lot of great roles and one AMAZING role, so
there's no regrets at all. It's a time for change and this has really been a
welcome change. It's something I just love.
Q: WE'RE WINDING DOWN NOW AND I KNOW VINCE IS WAITING, SO I ONLY
HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE DIRTY JOKE?
PB: Oh, boy... (HE SITS QUIETLY THINKING FOR A WHILE)
Q: I CAN SEE THE GEARS TURNING...
PB: Yeah, the gears are turning. Um,.....
Q: COME ON... LAST TIME I WAS IN THIS VERY HOTEL INTERVIEWING
SOMEBODY IT WAS CHRIS MCQUARRIE FOR THE WAY OF THE GUN AND HE GAVE ME A
GREAT JOKE. DON'T MAKE THE FOUR SEASONS UNLUCKY FOR ME, NOW.
PB: What was his?
Q: HE COULDN'T THINK OF ONE TO START OFF WITH, SO HE WENT, "TELL
ME SOME OF THE JOKES YOU'VE HEARD," AND I TOLD HIM A COUPLE OF JOKES FROM MY
PAST INTERVIEWS AND HE CAME UP WITH ONE [And I badly retold McQuarrie's joke
which can be read here http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=6774 ]
PB: I don't know. I'm not a really big joke guy, but... It's not
really a dirty joke, but I just heard it. A boy goes to his father and he
says, "What's the difference between theoretically and technically?" The dad
says, "Here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to your mother and ask
her if she'd sleep with Robert Redford for One Million Dollars. I want you
to go to your sister and ask her if she'd sleep with Brad Pitt for a million
dollars and I want you to go to your brother and ask him if he'd fuck Tom
Cruse for a million dollars. Then I want you to gather the information and
come back and talk to me."
So, he goes to his mom and he says, "Mom, would you sleep with
Robert Redford for a million dollars?" She goes, "Robert Redford? Are you
crazy, of course I'd sleep with Robert Redford for a million dollars." Then
he goes to his sister and asks, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt for a
million dollars?" And she goes, "One million dollars? I'd be crazy to pass
up an offer like that!" Then he goes up to his brother and says, "Hey, would
you fuck Tom Cruise for one million dollars?" He goes, "You know what a
million dollars could get me? Of course!"
The kid thinks about it for a couple of days and goes back to his
dad. His dad says, "So, did you think about it?" He says, "Yeah." The dad
says, "Well, what did you come up with?" The kid goes, "Well, theoretically
we're sitting on three million dollars. Technically, we're living with two
sluts and a fag."
Q: BRAVO! BEFORE YOU GO, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?
PB: Ah... no... Just that Made opens July 13th and we got a really
cool soundtrack that will be released on Red Line. I think the movie speaks
for itself and I'm just thrilled that I've been able to work with these
guys.
And there you have it, squirties. That should satiate you fine
folks for a while. That
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