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More on ENTERPRISE Ship & Uniforms!!

Published at: June 30, 2001, 3:23 p.m. CST by staff

I am – Hercules!!

Some special footage of the “Enterprise” cast in uniform was screened at a recent UPN regional meeting -- and one of Coax’s best spies was there.

The big new is the logo depicted in this TrekWeb photo is, according to our spy, “almost certainly the badge I saw on Archer's forearm” -- if one just eliminates the words “Star Trek Enterprise” and “Special Effects.”

The look of the ship on the logo very much fits what other very reliable spies have said about the new/old Enterprise's design

Here’s more on the uniforms from the reliable spy who attended the regional meeting:

The uniforms are purple and look like a mix of a NASA/military uniform and Starfleet's uniforms. They are not nearly as form fitting. They have yellow stripes around the shoulders, not sure if those have anything to do with rank. There is also a badge of some sort on each forearm. No open collar.

The WB called UPN the "Used Parts Network" so UPN called WB "Without Buffy," hehehe...

I am – Hercules!!





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  • June 30, 2001, 3:34 p.m. CST

    First

    by Stuart

  • June 30, 2001, 3:35 p.m. CST

    So What Retard

    by jimimack

  • June 30, 2001, 3:54 p.m. CST

    How ... similar-looking

    by droosan

    Can't tell much from a patch logo, of course, but the fan design posted on the german website was more interesting to me ... at least it seemed like a plausible 'de-volution' of the OS ship design; I mean, why would we go straight from the missile shape of the "First Contact" vessel to the 'saucer/primary hull-with-nacelles' configuration? ...oh, yeah, because Paramount desperately wants to identify this show with its 'successful' Star Trek series; the ones with ships called "Enterprise" that looked essentially like this.

  • June 30, 2001, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Yeah I admit... I'll probably watch it...

    by Megalith

    Despite all the nay-sayers I'll be in my favorite chair watching the first episode with a bowl of popcorn and an open mind... If it sucks (like "Voyager" did 7/8 of the time) then I'll just go back to doing something more constructive, like, say, scratchin' myself for an hour on Wednesday evenings...

  • June 30, 2001, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Keep on Tre...oh, what the fudge....

    by Electric_Monk

    So, everyone and their brothers thinks they have the latest Enterprise info. While we all ponder how Braga and Berman can further screw up with Trek's contiunity, I'm more interested in how opinions shift with each posting on "latest spoilers". For some, their outlook will remain the same, and will debate forever that the TOS was better than TNG; that DS9 had more character development than the previous two series; and that VOY...well, we are all well versed in how everyone felt about the last series. Still, though, from one spoiler to the next, we get people who think it sucks and then magically change their rant to, "well, maybe I'll give it try." One thing is for sure, the debate of where the franchise is really going will last for at least the next seven years. That's job security for all us geeks. But, in the end, does anyone but AICN and its followers (me included) really make a differance? It could be a bit cynical for me, but why get so hot under the collar? Berman is STILL directing the franchise, with Braga rewriting Trek in his own image. Paramount does not care about the fringe group of computer boys and girls who have nothing to do on Saturday night (or is that just me? Note to self: Get Boyfriend and have great sex) but whine about Trek or write racist comments on Baby Boy TB. And in the final analysis, that will be the reason why we have no effect on anything. The Baby Boy and the homophobe comments made on Real World Reuion Special a few weeks back are clear reason's why no one takes sci fi fans seriously. Or any hardcore fan, that is , devoted to this medium. We can be our own worse enemy. As for Enterprises new ship, well, to be honest with you all, if I want accurate information, I'll got to Dark Horizon's or even Trek Today. Paramount Girl, or whatever the heck her name is, has as much credibility as me passing for straight. Personally, I can wait until more concrete information is released, either by hook or by crook. Anything this early in the game cocerning Enterprise designs is just that: way too early. And since anyone with a half-assed computer can design a ship...well, let me just say, can't you all just wait? Do you have to know everthing about this series BEFORE it airs? If there is one great fault to the internet, is there are no surprises left in the world. We all seem to have a great need to spoil everything -all under the misguided notion that you are FIRST to know and like a sterotyping woman from the 1950's, you can't wait to get to the white picket fence and tell everyone someone else's buisness. And now, before everyone tells me to "simmer down", I just felt like ranting. It's not meant to change the world. Now, its the waiting game, kids. Let's see who says what..................... .........................Oh, the waiting game sucks. Let's play Hungry Hungry Hippo!. Peace

  • June 30, 2001, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Federation Ur-Logo?

    by Darth Brooks

    Interesting if the ship outline is the logo for the crew uniforms - - it's not hard to see the evolution of the shape of the ship morphing, over time, into the familiar delta-wing crest of the Federation. Good move on the design team for that thought.

  • June 30, 2001, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Whatever Trek has become, it sure isn't dead...

    by Praetorian.Guard

    Whether you still love Trek, used to love Trek but now hate it, or never liked it to begin with, one thing is for sure: Trek can still generate buzz among and polarize people like few things. Just look at all the stories AICN and others have done simply about the uniforms and ship design. Not to mention some of the responses in the talkbacks.

  • June 30, 2001, 5:40 p.m. CST

    check it

    by bent wookie

    check out this www.powerskier.com

  • June 30, 2001, 5:52 p.m. CST

    I agree with Brunt

    by ewem

    How can we even begin to get excited about any project that Berman, Braga, et al are attached to? I will watch the first episode just because...but man, this is really getting painful. I think I need to experience some real Trek...guess I will read Shatner's books again for the billionth time. And I need to find a great girlfriend, Brunt! ;-) Take care folks!

  • June 30, 2001, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Found a picture

    by coop

    I found a great rendition of the new Enterprise. Well actually those German guys (yeah the same ones) found it from another site and put it on an updated page at: http://drnews.powerweb.de/drnews-cgi/gallery-treknews/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Star_Trek_Enterprise/Konzeptzeichnungen&image=entlrc3.jpg&img=&tt=

  • June 30, 2001, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Uniforms

    by coop

    They have sketches on that same site. They could be just speculations too but it looks like the description and it's a drawing of Bacula so who knows

  • June 30, 2001, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Nice rant, Brunt. :-)

    by ar42

    I must say that I plan to watch the pilot episode as well, but what I've seen so far hasn't lead me to expect anything better than Voyager. Of particular annoyance lately seems to be the inability to create any original characters. So far we have Captain Archer (Kirk), the Vulcan Chick from Maxim (Seven of Nine), and the bone-adjusting-or- whatever Suliban (Odo). Now we just need a character who wants to be human and a grumpy yet lovable doctor/engineer and we'll have the entire cast of stock Trek characters. The apparent changes from Trek continuity annoy me but the average UPN viewer looking for something to kill time before wresting comes on isn't going to care. I'm still hoping the show will surprise me... I owe my once-glorious Trek fanhood at least that... but geez! Last night I caught the DS9 episode "Looking for Parmach in All the Wrong Places." The concept of a Trek show with a good script and nice acting had been buried so deep in my brain I'd forgotten it existed.

  • Obviously, the producers of ENTERPRISE are trying too hard to duplicate the success of the uniforms introduced in Wrath of Kahn, by going with a single, ubiquitous color for all members of the crew. I'd prefer the multi-chromatic scheme (red, blue, yellow) myself, which reminds one more of classic trek, and isn't this what ENTERPRISE is leading up to?

  • June 30, 2001, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Hopefully....

    by TalkingKat

    Hopefully That ugly patch with the enterprise as the logo is some sort of pre-federation logo. And at some point during the show itself the federation will be born and the more familier logo will emerge. On a side note, i don't know if anyone read that book federation, i can't even remember why i read it its the only st book i ever read, but it was exellent and they explain that the federation logo is the symbol for warp drive...which the federation was born from.

  • June 30, 2001, 9:15 p.m. CST

    And if they were really cool...

    by TalkingKat

    We would see section 31 in this show, which I belive was unofficially founded around this time, just before the federation was born.

  • June 30, 2001, 9:31 p.m. CST

    logos, symbols, et cetera

    by Si Rowe

    We shouldn't expect to see familiar Federation / Starfleet symbols on "Enterprise" -- remember that in TOS, each ship had its own uniform symbol. It wasn't until the movies that all of Starfleet started using the Enterprise's "delta" symbol. It may seem strange to think that each ship has its own uniform variant, but it's a continuation of the tradition of NASA mission patches, right? So if "Enterprise" has shoulder patches we can assume that those eventually morphed into the ship symbols worn on the chest in TOS. Sounds probable to me...

  • June 30, 2001, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Enterprise Design

    by Mutant29

    I kinda liked the German design. To bad it's a hoax. Though I understand this may be a pic of the new design, though I don't think something like this is really that believable as a spacecraft. http://www.escape.ca/~lorne/entrpoop.JPG

  • July 1, 2001, 12:59 a.m. CST

    It's happening again

    by jeffv

    "We've got new uniforms and real switches on our control panel!" This is the kind of information Paramount is letting leak out to whet people's appetite? Nothing has changed. The big "selling point" they were pushing early in Voyager's development was that the ship had organic components. (AFAIK, the only time that was ever significant to the plot in any way was when the ship got sick because of Neelix's cooking. For those that don't know, I'm *not* making up that plot. It *really* was an episode.) So, it seems they still think all we care about is technology and fashion, apparently. I will never forget the lame defense that Robert Picardo gave as narrator to the "Making of Voyager" that preceded the pilot episode. It went something like this: "People ask if we've run out of stories. Well, in the original series, they'd explored only 5% of the galaxy. In TNG, they'd explored 17%. Voyager is going to be in a whole new unexplored area called the Delta Quadrant, with 83% of the galaxy left to look at. That's a lot of stories." I'm sorry, but the well is not limited by the size of the stage but the size of the writers' imaginations. And concerning how much of the space has already been explored inside the heads of the established Star Trek writing staff, evidence indicates it's closer to 99.999%. I'm happy that Bakula allegedly is going to have some creative control, but I don't think one guy is going to rein in the existing entrenched egos for long. Watch for Bakula to leave the show within the first two years after feeling creatively limited. But, of course, don't worry... we'll get a Pon Farr episode with T'Pal before that. And when you see that episode, remember that in TOS, outsiders didn't know about Pon Farr... I can hear it now: Don't judge it before you've seen it. Well, to that I say: how many times can a person be slapped in the face before they start to flinch at a raised hand?

  • July 1, 2001, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Actually... it looks like The Stargazer

    by El Tronerino

    Remember the Stargazer? from that TBG one with Picard's shiney-bonced flashbacks and they were using it for wargames, or sumthin? It was Capt Cue-ball's old ship.

  • July 1, 2001, 3:39 a.m. CST

    What is this, Wing Commander?

    by MCVamp

    You have to be kidding me. That's the biggest cast of cliches I've ever seen. The captain who is not afraid to bend the rules? The plucky southern boy who looks up to his leader? The young black guy who happens to be his best friend? (Boy is that a cry for tolerance if I've ever seen one.) The exotic alien doctor with peculiar tastes? The stern yet somehow babealicious alien first officer? It's gone from suck to blow.

  • July 1, 2001, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Umm..that's an Akira class

    by K-Man

    The ship in the logo is one of the Akira class introduced in ST:FC (one of the CGI only ships from ILM) and seen later in DS9..somehow I doubt it's gonna be the early Enterprise check out: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/akira-diagrams.jpg and http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/other/akira-lenny.jpg

  • July 1, 2001, 6:54 a.m. CST

    I have to say Thank God UPN has

    by spike fan

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer. A great show that has originalty and cotinuity. At least that should limit the damage of another peice of failed Bermans ego that now passes for Star Trek. Anyone want to bet Backula after a several months will be doing a Robert Beltran. And to be honest I do not blame him. I will give this a chance but it does look crap.

  • July 1, 2001, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Niaiserie

    by Paul W

    The military uniform referred to is probably the CWU-27/P nomex flightsuit that military pilots wear. NASA uses the same thing but it is blue instead of sage green. Here is an image: http://www.csgshq.com/images/150202942-2.jpg

  • July 1, 2001, 1:14 p.m. CST

    another try

    by Paul W

    Me again, Sorry, bad image. Try this one for the flightsuit. http://mypage.bluewin.ch/pogo/FGear/General/CWU-27.jpg

  • July 1, 2001, 2:08 p.m. CST

    How to make a good program...

    by Marcus Aurelius

    First off, continuity is only part of the issue. We can get around that anyway by classifying Enterprise missions as top-secret. If they were never publicised in any serious way, they wouldn't be part of the official history. And, yes, it does make a certain amount of sense in terms of Trek cannon. A disunited Earth government probably wouldn't be keen to shout about how they're out contacting potentially hostile alien races. As for the Vulcans, would it be logical for their government to crow about how they're "guiding" a potentially violent race into the stars shortly after that race nearly killed themselves in a World War? What makes a show work is the strength of the characters involved. TOS you have the triumvirate of Kirk, Spock and McCoy. TNG you have Picard and, arguably, Data. DS9... I'll give you Sisko, most of the time. Voyager, the best you can do is the Doctor, and Voyager is easily the weakest of the bunch. Outside of Trek, look at Babylon 5 - Delenn and Sheridan. Stargate-SG1 works because it has four strong chracters, and yes I do include Richard Dean McGyver among them. In short, you can get around continuity, but you really need those central characters. Good luck to Bakula if he can pull it off. I'll be watching that first episode, and it'll be blatantly obvious if it doesn't work. It's on his shoulders as much as Berman's and Braga's. Roma Victor Est

  • July 1, 2001, 6:13 p.m. CST

    They'll drop the ball

    by Ruthless Berserk

    Let's not get all giddy like new (old) relationships. These are the same guys on TNG, DS9, VGR. Will things change? I almost liked the pictures of the fraud showed something TOTALLY NEW and refreshing. Let's see: no replicators, no holodecks; it's B5!

  • July 2, 2001, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Herc or Harry, FIX THE HERC LOGO, I beg of you!

    by Jonny Quest

    I got as far as "The Uniforms are purple..." and then that stupid green guy on life support popped up and covered up what I was reading FOR THE HUNDRETH TIME. Herc, I enjoy reading your articles. I just wish I COULD without having to cut and paste them into a word file 90% of the time!

  • July 2, 2001, 4:46 a.m. CST

    What? No miniskirts?...

    by Kid Z

    ...Damn! I HATE Rick Berman! This will suck, but not, as you geekboys claim, due to a lack of "continuity." "Continuity" always interferes with good storytelling and it's best to just make nods to it, rather than slavishly adhering to it like if was divine scripture. Look how the slavish adherence to "continuity" destroyed the comic book industry as an example.

  • July 2, 2001, 2:09 p.m. CST

    This kind of sounds like "SEAQUEST" in space!

    by Wdrow

  • July 2, 2001, 10:16 p.m. CST

    The Section 31 idea is good, but...

    by brattain

    The problem is good ol' Brannon doesn't give a rat's ass about anything he didn't work on. Hell, he doesn't even really keep track of his own work (Relativity). Braga knows DS9 was a better show than Voyager and his ego combined with stupidity and laziness won't let him consider bringing an element from DS9 into ENTERPRISE. I'm sure if it is up to Braga, DS9 will never get mentioned again in Trek. I don't know why Berman prefers him and his work to the crew of DS9.

  • July 4, 2001, 2:46 a.m. CST

    What Enterprise needs.

    by schiznitronic

    Three things: 1: Half-Nekkid Alien Chicks. 2: The Captain Gettin' Him Some From Said Alien Chicks. 3: Said Captain Whoopin' Ass with one hand and urinating on the Prime Directive with the other, preferably all at the same time.