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INDIANA JONES IV ready to go''!'!'
Hey folks, Harry here... Seems like we've got a status on where Indy 4 is... It's up to Paramount. Well that could be more of a hassle than you can imagine. Trying to make a deal with George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford on an Indiana Jones movie, and do it in such a way that the studio is still allowed to make a profit... well, it is tough. Indy 4 would most likely mean Harrison Ford's largest pay day yet. Then George and Steven's costly producing and directing deals... The back end on the film would look ugly as hell, then of course you have the whole issue of how expensive the movie itself would be... Well... This is where the film is... number crunching... How much is too much and how much is just right? Sure everyone involved knows that folks like you and me want to see this teaming... but again... that's the problem. THEY KNOW... THEY ALL KNOW. However, as we go into Junket Week on A.I., let me put out there for those attending... find out who wrote the current script that they are behind making... What Spielberg is doing after MINORITY REPORT... oh, and how the hell is A.I.? Here ya go....
Hi Harry,
I am sure you have read this hundreds of times, but according to the Sydney
Morning Herald (June 12), Steven Spielberg mentions his plans for Indiana
Jones 4 in an interview printed in Starlog's 25th anniversary edition.
"We are all ready and waiting for Paramount," Spielberg said in reference to
the studio behind the franchise. By "all" Spielberg meant the key players in
the franchise: himself, George Lucas and Harrison Ford.
You can read more at:
regards,
Simon
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Lets hope its true, I'm sure theres still life in the old dog yet
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i'm first? COOL!!
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As Joel Silver said quite a few years ago (and I could well be misquoting here) "People are tired of Harrison in a suit. Get him back in the fucking hat!"
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"He pointed out that Jolie, who won a Best Supporting Actress Academy Award for Girl, Interrupted, may be unknown to the audience of young teens who may flock to see the film.
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DAMN! Thought i was first. Oh well some other loser beat me. DOH! But hey i hope they kick this into gear soon cause harrison ford ain't getting any younger.
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I got here 1st... hip hip hoorah.... and might I add that I am getting sick of seeing Harry's little cartoon images in the f*cking corner.... oh yeah... Goonies 2!!!!! Just think about it... wouldn't it be sweet!!!!! Go Chunk! and Abe Vagoda rules!
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Here I thought I was 1st... look at me, I'm like 6th down or something... but the Goonies still kick ass! Kick some ass Abe!
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Surely Harrison Ford is getting too old for Indy? At the end of Last Crusade he drinks from the grail and supposed to be a) immortal, and b) not age. So how are they gonna explain that the fucker looks about 55 - 60?
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Surely Harrison Ford is getting too old for Indy? At the end of Last Crusade he drinks from the grail and supposed to be a) immortal, and b) not age. So how are they gonna explain that the fucker looks about 55 - 60?
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As mentioned in "Last Crusade," the price of immortality is staying within the Grail's temple. Indy ISN'T immortal. Matter of fact, we got a modern day glimpse of him in "The Young Indy Chronicles" pilot looking pretty elderly.
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and it's really simple why Indy would age after drinking from the grail. I quote from the old knight, "But the grail cannot pass beyond the great seal. That is the boundry and the price of immortality."
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Just imagine Indy 4, it'll be like A View To kill, and when I say that I mean a stunt guy will be doing everything except talk because the lead is just too old and fragile... They better have some really brilliant writer to make this baby work. I don't wanna see Indiana Jones as an exhausted old man. I hated those episodes of Young Indy where during the introduction Indiana was about a hundred years old.
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I like Indy films just as much as the next guy, but why would Spielberg do it? I much rather see him doing original projects like A.I and Minority Report instead of doing another Indy film.
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Jun 12, 2001 1:37:17 AM CDT
Are they gonna dust Karen Allen off and put her in this 'propose
by monkey_king
One of the concepts I liked about the next/last Indy film that has been circulating was having Karen Allen come back and have Natalie Portman play the adult daughter of both Marion Ravenwood and Indy. Is this still happening I wonder?
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I suppose to justify the ageing of the character it would have to be set in the fifties which means he'd would have to fight Communists. 'Quick Indy, get that artifact before the dreaded Red Menance do'
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I think its got to the point where they are not going to try and hide the fact that Harrison has aged, by dyeing his hair etc... Harrison's age will be integral to the film, it will be the story of an older Indy. And theres no reason why, given the talent involved, it shouldn't be a great film. There are so many great characters they can revisit...I can't wait. I really hope it happens.... It will be the Indiana Jones equivalent of Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven!
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OK. I stand corrected on the immortality thing. It's been a good few years since I saw Last Crusade. I can never be bothered to watch it on telly since they cut more out every time they screen it. But I definitely agree on the View To A Kill analogy. The guy looks to knackered. Plus if they have it like Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, it couldn't work. You'd have to strip out all the excitement. That film was about demythologizing the old West. An Indy film could never do that and work. Mind you it is possible that they have some great idea that'll make the whole endeavour worthwhile.
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What the freak does Joel Silver know!? He has to be the biggest clown in the whole industry. Hey the have an idea!!! lets have a whole bunch of cool explosions and then its BULLET TIME BABY!! WOoooHooo! The kids will love it! But anyway.. The whole idea of bring Indy back isnt the best idea but dammit, someone has to teach all these MTV style bastards how to make a good epic and I think Speilberg is the one to do it.
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Jun 12, 2001 2:32:43 AM CDT
I wasn't suggesting it should be THAT similar to Unforgiven...
by captain katanga
I was just saying that theres no reason why it couldnt work with an older Indy. The action would still be there, the fact that he is older would a add a new dimension to it... You could have an action scene set on a stairlift, or a thrilling golf-cart chase. And a runaway wheelchair scene. Just kidding.
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You know how he does that thing holding onto the front of a truck in Raiders? Perhaps that could work on a zimmer frame. Instead of reaching under sliding stone door for his hat, he could make a grab for his brown cardigan and colostomy bag. I can just imagine him tripping in a major chase scene. "Help I've fallen and i can't get up." Actually, perhaps he could be going a bit dotty and keep forgetting where he is and what he's doing. I can see the pitch now. "Indy IV. It's Unforgiven meets Memento".
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Seriously...think about it...Short Round is Indy's surrogate "son." In "Temple of Doom" he's already grooming himself to be the kind of adventurer his mentor is. So imagine an Indy 4 featuring a grown-up Short Round, played by someone cool like Jet Li or Chen Chang, teaming up with Indy and handling the more physical stuff that the older Indy can't do anymore. Martial arts is all the rage nowadays so having Short Round in the film would be the perfect excuse to do some of that wire-fu everyone's so in love with. Come on -- who's with me? Short Round in Indy 4!!!
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Max the Silent is right. He was in the story "Mystery of the Blues" where he learns Jazz. The intro has a beaded, old Harrison Ford in the 1950 with an adult "Native American" as his sidekick.
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Indy 4, Mad Max 4, and now IMDb is reporting a possible Beverly Hills Cop 4. Anyone remember the days when a trilogy was considered a nice, round number of installments in a series? Oh well, I hope this kicks ass anyway.
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Soichiro that is a great idea. Probably the best idea I've read from a fan. (better than that Roswell crap) Have a grown up Short Round and papa Indy go off adventuring with Short Round saving Indy's butt throught the movie. I like it.
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Indy 4 can be done just fine with Ford looking his age and whatnot. The guy is not in a wheelchair, and he is still taking roles with what HF refers to as 'physical acting.' Any of you shmucks remember Air Force 1? 'Sides all the really great stuff is done with FX and stuntmen anyways. As long as HF can run and ride a horse and throw a punch, he can do this. Shut up and let them make this movie!
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Jun 12, 2001 4:37:04 AM CDT
Mr. Ford turned down TRAFFIC ... so that's a good sign of his se
by bannlust
nuff said
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Yes, he looks really good. But the critics had a field day with the contrast between him and Anne Heche in "Six Days, Seven Nights," and how ridiculous it was that Hollywood kept pairing young women with late middle aged men. The critics would go absolutely ballistic over the idea of Harrison Ford continuing a role that he originated nearly 30 years ago and last played about 20 years ago. And they'd be right. Ford simply would not work as Indy anymore.
It's too bad River Phoenix is dead - Spielberg was obviously grooming him for the part in "Last Crusade." If there *must* be a fourth film, why not use the kid from the TV series? And what are we going to call this one, "Indiana Jones and the Beta Blockers of Doom"? -
Take Indy out of his '40's heyday- plop him into the world of the 1950's where the enemy is no longer Facsist in Germany, but Facsist here at home. They want to drag Indy before the House Unamerican Activities Committie because of his past associations with that "Pinko, homosexual commie" Marcus Brodie. As a result he is fired from the University and finds himself searching for personal redemption. Instead of seraching for Arks, Stones, or Grails he goes in search of Short Round whome he abandoned years ago and is now reported to be in Mao's China. Indy's search in a country that is destroying its own history as fast as it could, and the comparisons made with the Mao crew and the Mcarthy crew could be interesting. End with the invasion of Tibet and Short Round dying because Indy's age prevents him from being as physically capable of saving him- you got a real flick. Face it, the kid who grew up on Indy are ready for this.
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Raiders came out in 81 or 82, 20 years ago. Last crusade was in 89.
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If they are going to haggle over Money, Disntribution right's ect, than I say give it over to Dreamworks or 20th Century. Better yet, why can't George "I've got more money than I know what to do with" Lucas foot the bill and let Steven's Company Dreamworks deal with Distributing it. See, easy solutions.
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Indiana Jones 4 is not going to happbe. This stupid thing has been floating around forever, and they always have a different reason for not making the film. Usually it's "we're all too busy," which is the most believable. It's the equivalent of "when we don't have any better to do." If they were serious, they'd have started making the time. Spielberg still has Minority Report and Memoirs of a Geisha on his plate, though heaven knows if he still cares to make either of them. Harrison Ford seems uninterested in working anymore--he'll just sleep walk through simple easy productions of a lackluster films until he retires in a few years. And Lucas has the all-consuming Star Wars films. Lucas shouldn't have to wait until after Episode 3 is made before he does anything else. He made the first two Indiana Jones films at the same time he was making the last two Star Wars films for god's sake(okay, he was only producing everything, but that just shows how easy producing can be)! Is Lucas THAT crucial to Indy 4? Can't he just take a month or two after E2 is released to co-produce IJ4 with Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy? Time is their enemy, Harrison Ford is now older than Sean Connery when he played his dad! But the thing that worries me is the curse of Leathal Weapon 4. NEVER make a fourth film just for the sake of making it. If they have a real killer premise, then by all means go ahead. I always thought they'd have Indiana dealing with fatherhood, a son or daughter he never knew he had. Maybe they could get Angelina Jolie fresh from the stinkpile stardom of Tomb Raider to play Montanna Jones and start an all new series . . . oh yeah, we're trying to avoid bad ideas. hehehehe. Well I like Angelina, I just hate what Hollywood does with her. Anyway I stand by my main point(yes, I have one), if they don't have a worthwhile premise, and the great triumvirate are only involved because they're sick of being asked when they'd make it, then I don't see how it can be anything but a disasterous disappointment. I'd love to see Karen Allen, John Rhys-Davies, and Sean Connery all return to their Indy roles, but I don't want an unsatisfying empty shadow of the Indiana Jones movies of old. So far, nothing I've heard about the potential project has assured me that won't happen.
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Why the hell did they wait so long to make this? Come to think of it, why the hell did they wait so long on Star Wars as well.
This movie obviously isn't going to be the same Indy kicking ass and all. I mean, Harrison looks great for his age and all, but still...
Anyone who has seen TPM and read those bastardized Willow wanna be sequels that Lucas wrote with Chris Claremont can see that 1.) Lucas can't tell a story to save his ass 2.) Lucas has become so cynical and angry in general (hence the weight gain) that he has destroyed all of his own creations. I mean, even the staunchest of TPM fans has to look at the big picture objectively and scratch their head.
We're going to see with A.I. if Spielberg still knows how to take care of business. He's been so busy preaching to us for years about what ingrates we are for the riches of this country. Can Spielberg still entertain? We're going to find out. I have more hope for him than Lucas. I guess the good thing about this is that Lucas will have checks and balances on him. He sort of has it on this Episode 2 Star Wars film, but...probably not as much as he should. My fingers are crossed all the way around. -
Half of America wanted to kill
Michelle Pfeiffer after "The
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Sequels, sequels, sequels, remakes, video game adaptations, and sequels. Does Hollywood have anything original to offer us anymore? Now, don't get me wrong, I love, hell, I ADORE the Indiana Jones films, but do we really need another one? Last Crusade ended on a great note, and wrapped up the movies nicely. Not to mention that TRILOGY is a MUCH better word than FRANCHISE. I loved Star Wars too, and look what happened. Three is the magic number. If you make three blockbuster, kick-ass films in a row and want to make a fourth for the money you know you'll make, you need to reign your ego in and consider just why you made the first one. Now I'll always support Spielberg and Ford, and even though my confidence in George Lucas has been shaken, I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but think how disappointed we'll be if IJ4 is just Indy running around with a bunch of CGI effects and backgrounds. The first ones were so great because they were fresh, new, and revolutionary; we BELIEVED what was happening in the films, and they were not always packed in a glossy package. They had CHARISMA, just like Indy himself. And if that can't be preserved, then neither should the series.
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Spielberg and Lucas are both busy through 2003. So if they were to begin production after Episode 3, that'd put Ford well north of 60. I just don't see it happening. I can't imagine any studio would pay Ford 25-30M to be in a sequel that comes 15 YEARS after the last installment. While I loved Indy, lets put him to pasture and enjoy the 2 good films of the series. We don't need another Lethal Weapon 4 fiasco with our heroes turned into grumbling, whining old men.
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While we're on the subject, the original "Raiders of the Lost Ark," one of the most successful movie of all time and in my opinion arguablly the greatest American film of all time, has just passed its twentieth anniversery. Unlike the "Star Wars" series, which was commemorated by that great re-release in 1997, nothing has been done for "Raiders" or the rest of the Indiana Jones series. What a freaking crime. This is after I heard from a reliable source last year that there would a theatrical re-release of all three films followed by the DVD releases to commemorate the ocassion (they're now insisting the Indy DVDs WILL be out early next year; I'll believe it when I'm watching them). Now, I realize that a forth Indy movie is still just in the talking stages, while the next "Star Wars" trilogy was coming for sure at the time of the 1997 re-release. And it can be argued that while "Raiders" (I believe) was better than any "Star Wars" movie, that it did not have anywhere near the cultural impact. But I mean, come on, there was a theatrical re-release for the tenth anniversery of "Dirty Dancing." TENTH anniversery. DIRTY DANCING, for Mike's sake. And it would be amazing to see "Raiders" on the big screen one or thirty more times. A complete shame. Would totally have preferred that to a forth all-new Indy movie. Anyone with me?
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How much more money do any of these guys need. Just make the fucking movie. SS and Lucas are Billionares. HF has got to be worth over 100 mil., so I guess he could use the cash the most. Give SS and Lucas 20 mil. a piece and HF 25 mil. Then spend 140 mil. to make the most incredible looking movie ever. That a total of 205 mil. It will make it back in 2 weeks. World wide this movie could make 500 mil. easy. (tip economic downturn, invest in entertainment)
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The Indiana Jones series are some of my favorite movies of all time and I would love to see one last movie in the series. This is one of the few series where I like about all three movies equally. They were just some of the greatest adventure movies ever made in my opinion. Harrison Ford might be pushing 60, but so the fuck what. He still looks good for his age and it's not like he has to do his own stunts or anything. And who says the Indiana Jones character has to be as old as he is?
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I've always been a Harrison Ford fan, but really, we'll have to call him Grandpa Jones. He just won't look right in the part of the dashing adventurer. They should get someone younger. Maybe he's had a kid (whose inhis late teens or early twenties at this point) and Inday is bummed the kid is following in his footsteps. It is time for Harrison Ford to pass his fedora on to the next generation of intrepid explorers.
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Jun 12, 2001 8:00:04 AM CDT
It'll never happen. And if does it will suck. File this one un
by kdraines
Sounds like they're brewing up a recipe for mediocrity. Which is appropos given the current action/adventure climate. It should fit right in. However, after the somewhat disappointing Last Crusade, I'm holding my breath for this to be a good one, even if it does happen.
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I'm dismayed by the negativity about Indy's plucky sidekick. At least Spider-Ham gets it! Forget the annoying kid who played Short Round in Temple of Doom -- think about the possibilities of the character as an adult! It would even fit thematically with the previous film, since the father-son dynamic would now be switched to Indy and Short Round and Indy would sort of symbolically become the father. And part of the appeal of Indiana Jones has always been the self-effacing humor -- so you could get a lot of yuks out of an aging Indy defiantly trying to prove that he's still got it, but fucking up once in a while and having to have Short Round bail his ass out. Eh? Eh?
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Yes, Joel Silver is a complete and total hollywood player, and makes plenty of bad action films, but at least he's produced a few classics in the genre (Die Hard, Lethal Weapon I, The Matrix, Predator). The only decent thing to ever come out of Jerry Bruckheimer's corrupted bunghole is Beverly Hills Cop, which I attribute more to the talents of Martin Brest. Just look at the shit fest that is Beverly Hills Cop II.
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so it doesn't matter how old Harrison is, it is Indiana Jones we should be thinking about. Oh yeah, and as for who wrote the script, the latest deal I heard was that Stephen Gaghan (Traffic) was working on the script. This is after M. Night Shamalyan (6th Sense, Unbreakable) turned it down in favor of doing SIGNS with Touchstone/Disney.
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Jun 12, 2001 8:48:40 AM CDT
Complete this sentence: Scrappy-Doo is to Scooby-Doo Franchise
by alonzomoselyfbi
Answer: Fucking Short Round! They HAD to make Last Crusade to apologize for that POS Temple of Doom. Worst "heroine" and one of cinema's most annoying "sidekicks". No pun intended. Indiana Jones doesn't need that type of pointless comic relief in the form of a little street urchin, or (more likely these days) a Wayans brother. But you know what? You'll probably get exactly that if Lucas has anything to say about it. I really hope they make another installment, but I'm not holding my breath. Look for some lovable, easily marketable character in this film if it ever sees the light of day. I can't wait to see how he improves on the Jar Jar concept with this one. And if I haven't said it before, George...Episode I had so much potential....so much potential...
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Ed Burns!!!! He doesn't necessarily have to take on the Indy character himself. They can somehow write him in to be a sidekick or protoge or something,
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I beg your pardon, but this story is untrue. The news paper that printed this report was false in their statments... Mr. Lucas has officially stated that he would be interested in reprising the series however, due to his conflicting schedule will be unable to join in at least for another 4 years. Mr. Dreamworks has also stated that schedules are conflicting and no plans to move ahead have been made.. THERE, THE TRUTH!!!!!! I hate this gossip shit. Get facts or get lost!!
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Jun 12, 2001 9:30:24 AM CDT
"I followed you on many adventures Indy, but into the great unkn
by brother putney
I don't care what movie they make as long as it isn't based on the Chris Columbus draft I read, the one that opens with Indy fishing for the Loch Ness Monster. Columbus is kind of like the proto-Brett Ratner, he keeps getting involved with movies he doesn't deserve, and that script sucks ass. But think about this: the best parts of the Indy movies have always been the parts where Indy tries to do something slick and it doesn't work or backfires. I don't think the flicks should turn into utter slapstick, but an aging Indiana Jones definitely offers great comic possibilities. Personally, I'd like to see an adventure set in the New York City of the early 50's. It could be like the Hudsucker Proxy but with violence. Y'know, for kids!
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Jun 12, 2001 9:31:33 AM CDT
"I followed you on many adventures Indy, but into the great unkn
by brother putney
I don't care what movie they make as long as it isn't based on the Chris Columbus draft I read, the one that opens with Indy fishing for the Loch Ness Monster. Columbus is kind of like the proto-Brett Ratner, he keeps getting involved with movies he doesn't deserve, and that script sucks ass. But think about this: the best parts of the Indy movies have always been the parts where Indy tries to do something slick and it doesn't work or backfires. I don't think the flicks should turn into utter slapstick, but an aging Indiana Jones definitely offers great comic possibilities. Personally, I'd like to see an adventure set in the New York City of the early 50's. It could be like the Hudsucker Proxy but with violence. Y'know, for kids!
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I saw Harrison Ford on Bravo's "Inside the Actor's Studio" last week. In between James Lipton sucking his ass, he asked the question: "Will there be a 4th Indiana Jones?"
Ford: "Yes." (applause) "And I say that because I want to do it, and I'm ready to do it. And George and Steven want to do it. There are still some matters with script, etc., and obviously George and Steven have their hands full at the moment." I'm paraphrasing a bit, but that's the gist of it. He made clear his passion for the movie is there, I'm assuming this was recorded pretty recently... Anyhow, it's a good sign. And NO SHORT ROUND!! Who's the dolt that wanted him running around like Jackie Chan, getting Indy out of trouble all the time??!! "Martial arts is all the rage now!" Get some help soon please sir.. -
Jun 12, 2001 10:17:58 AM CDT
This Movie Could Get Made Easily If People In Hollywood Weren't
by easy rider
Paramount wouldn't have to worry so much about numbers crunching if Ford, Spielberg, and Lucas didn't want so much damn money for everything. How much richer do they wanna get? Christ, Lucas himself could buy all of Asia with his moo-laa. By lowering their costs, the budget would go down, which in turn means it could turn a profit easier, thus enabling them to earn even more money. And besides, it's not like taking a pay cut is going to hurt them. A part of me doubts that they'll be on the streets if this bombs.
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...Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford. What is everyone worried about? I would guess that they will make a BETTER movie than The Last Crusade. What with Spielberg on the comeback and Lucas and Ford both needing another "classic" badly.
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OK, I'd be the first to admit that Short Round was basically the Jar Jar Binks of Temple of Doom. But let's get past this, people. Think about the possibilities! A grown up Short Round would kick ass! He'd have Indy's sense of adventure and wiseass attitude with the training of a Far Eastern upbringing. And the father-son theme would connect the sequel to the other films and give the movie a reason for existing other than raking in a few hundred more million dollars for Spielberg et al. Open your minds, my friends, and you will see that Short Round MUST be in Indy 4!!
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I'm afraid he died last year. The last script of his that was made was The Phantom, about 5 years ago. He also wrote Meg for Disney, still unfilmed. Don't know what happened to his Indy 4 draft, I'm assuming it's been put aside by whatever plot changes have been stirring in Lucas/Spielberg's minds since he finished it.
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I don't want to see Indy without Marcus, and poor Denholm Elliott is dead. Indy without Marcus = Temple of Doom which = DISASTER. Just like having Spielberg without Lucas to keep the bit firmly snug in SS's mouth. DISASTER.
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I love the Indy movies. Waaaay better than the Star Wars movies in my opinion. I've always thought that. Even Temple of Doom was an entertaining ride, though the least well-written of the three. I say since we got three good ones out of it, MAKE SOME MORE! It'll be fun, and as long as they're in the spirit of the original three, they should be good watchin'. Ford too old? Nah...that guy's got staying power.
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Harrison Ford was once asked about how his age would factor into making a fourth Indiana Jones movie, and he said it wouldn't, because it was all "smoke and mirrors" anyway.
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didn't Raiders only cost about 12 million to make, so add 25 million to that, and an additional 15 for effects, and maybe 5 million for a connory cameo, and there. 60 million. (actually, 59, but with advertising).
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with lining their greedy pockets they don't care that the fans have been waiting for this one. There's PLENTY of money floating around for this. It's a sure-fire money maker to put Ford back in that role.
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How much longer are they going to talk about it?? Like someone earlier said as long as he can still run, punch and fall (physical acting), Ford isn't too old. That's basically what he did in Air Force One and that was just a few years ago. Personally, I'm not totally against the idea of a grown-up Short Round being included. I didn't realize there was such an anti-Short Round campaign. This could be very cool with an Indy in his late fifties coming out of retirement for one last adventure. Maybe they could even show how he loses his eye. Since the elderly Jones from "Young Indy Chronicles" wears an eye patch. Always wondered about that. Sorry, too much time on my hands, I guess.
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Kind of like the Short Round idea, but I don't want it to be a bunch of kung fu. He has to be able to act, something that Jet Li has yet to prove (IMHO). I *do* like the idea of the film starting with Marcus' funeral. But did Indy "find God" after Last Crusade? And if so, what's the point of the journey? I guess the idea of one last adventure is cool. Kind of partial to the idea of him looking for a way to extend his life, maybe a fear of death -- something we all can relate to.
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Lucas isn't concerned about Ford's age, he's just going to have ILM CG animate Indy and Ford do the voice.
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you people are on crack, how can you not love Short Round?!
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As long as Solah is in the script, I'm there. This is so doable, but I don't think it'll happen. Age is not the issue. And there's no reason to do a 'Generations' style passing of the baton to another actor. This isn't friggin' Star Trek. Without the original Indy this series is nothing. It shouldn't be built around extending the films into infinity with further sequels. It sould be built into creating a movie which implies that the adventures of Indiana Jones continue whether we are watching or not. Must have a cameo by Connery!
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He died of A.I.D.S a few years back. The actor's name slips my mind right now...
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Take a look at the third for the gods sake, campier than Temple and Ford was too old to do believable action (at least the swashbuckling type that Indy requires) even back then. Besides, Ford doesn't act enough to even pull off Indy these days.--By the by, in Crusade, to attain immortality one must drink from the grail daily (or at least often)I think, rather than once. Hence the line, "I'll be drinking to my health long after Hitler has gone the way of the dodo."
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Quite a few scripts have been commissioned over the years. CHRIS COLUMBUS' version was hideous (not that that's a surprise). I seem to recall that the Roswell one was written by JONATHAN HENSLEIGH and featured cameos by MARION AND WILLIE AND SHORT ROUND, who are all attending Indy's wedding to yet another gal, but it's interrupted with a villain action chase. Also, Indy's brother was rumored to be played by TOM SELLECK, sort of an insider's apology since he was Lucas-Spielberg's first choice for the role of Indy back in 1980 and his CBS contract prevented it, which is why they had to hire Harrison instead. None of the plots ever lived up to the quality of the original trilogy... despite some intriguing supernatural treasures along the lines of ATLANTIS, EXCALIBUR, the GARDEN OF EDEN, UFOs, etc. I'm curious to know what Lucas and Spielberg have selected as the new focus for the Traffic scribe. I'm pretty sure it will have Soviet/Communist villains since last year's Indy videogame had them. If they were to do any flashbacks, I'd love to see Sean Patrick Flannery return as this was his best role. For sneak previews of the story possibilities you can go back and look at the Indy comics... (90's Dark Horse era, NOT the 80's Marvel series) while not up to par with the movie scripts, these Indy comics were approved by the licensing people at Lucasfilm, and explored some of the same icons...ie Atlantis. Frankly, if Lucas intended to explore the subject in that way, I'd rather not see it as I thought that comic sucked.
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"The critics would go absolutely ballistic over the idea of Harrison Ford continuing a role that he originated nearly 30 years ago and last played about 20 years ago" - Ellid. Raiders came out in '81 and Crusade came out in '89. That makes it 20 years since he first time he played the role and 12 since the last time. As for his age being a problem with him being able to physically handle the role today, what about The Fugitive and Air Force One...both pretty physical roles. Besides, if you think that he was doing all of his own stunts in the first three Indy films then you are deluded. As for me, well, I've got a chubby just thinkin' about another Indy film. I say bring it on and to hell with the film snobs and critics. If they can make a fourth one anywhere near as good as ANY of the three that we have now (although closer to Raiders would be best) then I'll be the first in line to see it.
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Jun 12, 2001 10:15:49 PM CDT
I'll Pitch An Indy Idea Here Since I Don't Know George Lucas, St
by buzz maverik
Indiana Jones is an expert on the occult. His father is a Scotsman. Now, earlier in this century a man named Aleistir Crowley practiced black magick on the shores of Loch Ness. Crowley owned a home there called Boleskine House. He performed a ritual called The Working Of Abra-Maelin The Mage. His intent was to contact his guardian angel. He came in contact with beings who were anything but angelic and had names like Lam and Aiwiss. One theory is that the failure of his complicated, time consuming ritual brought forth a wyrm from the depths of the Loch. Wyrm is the medieval term from dragon. Modern Nessie sightings were not reported until after Crowley's ritual. Also, since this wouldn't attract tourists, it's not publicized that Nessie probably the least evil thing sighted swimming around in that Loch at night. Essentially, it's supposed to be a goblin's beach party in the water in front of Boleskine. So what does all this have to do with Indiana Jones? Let's have Indy go up against a black magick society. He'd deal with rhune stones, ancient writing, assasains, wizards and Nessie. If anyone knows Lucas, Spielberg or Ford, tell 'em that I'll script this for them for one million dollars, a Purdy shotgun and a new Chevy Suburban filled with Cuban cigars.
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Jun 12, 2001 10:22:41 PM CDT
While I do agree this movie should have been made years ago....
by rogue_leader
I still think it should DEFINATELY be made. I think this could represent a TRUE FINALE to the series. Like that guy said above, with Indy coming out of retirement for one last adventure. The movie could rap everything up and finally bring the series some closure. Look I am not saying Ford should do 3 more of these. A fourth Indy is definately possible though! To the people sayin Ford is too old ummmm JUST LOOK AT CONNERY IN THE ROCK! He kicked more ass than ANYONE in that movie and actually made one Bruckheimer film good. Like Ford himself said "these movies are all smoke and mirrors". Ford keeps himself in good shape. He could do some physical stuff, but you would be amazed how much of the physical stuff in the bloody previous films was not done by him. Look all they need to do is get: FORD, Spielbiggs, a DECENT script and a budget and this film will deliver. People complain it may not be as good as the previous ones. Folks if its even a THIRD as good as Raiders it will still be better thgan 99% of the action films out there. I will be first in line!!
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All I have to say...Steve Gutenberg as Indy!
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I would love to see a new Indy movie, no matter what Harrison's age. But only if they put some real thought and loving care into the movie, instead of just churning out a by-the-book movie they know is going to make tons of cash. I can see a return of Short Round, and they can use the original actor, Jonathan Ke Quan, also known as the original "Data". He's about 30 now and is working as a stunt coordinator in Hollywood: meaning he can do his own fight scenes! Have it be a father and son heartfelt reteaming, throw in Sallah, maybe even Marion. Start off with Henry Sr's funeral, dedicate it to Mix it with lots of action. Who cares if there are Nazis or Commies or not? As long as there is some cool adventurous archaeology and some villainous opponents to race to the prize, I'll be happy. Heck, I could even see a well-written death scene for Indy at the end (although that would screw up the little bit of continuity with the Young Indy series, but If it's a good ending, who cares?) Man, wouldn't that bring out the tears? I know I'd probably bawl, and I don't normally cry at movies.
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Really though, Harrison can easily pull this one through without bullwhips or pistols or biplanes.....all he needs to defeat the villians is the Finger Of Doom! If you doubt, check it out on the net or go to your old tapes. It was highlighted on this site about six months ago. And to IWasCured, you'll see Michael Winslow doing all the ILM sound effects before Mahoney gets near the golden fedora.
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Jun 13, 2001 1:52:34 AM CDT
This Movie is a great idea, and Harrisons not to old. Do you gu
by darth ranik
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I didn't think Harrison looked that old in "what lies benieth". Shit, he was still thin, had a six pack of abs, and had a good sized set of pipes. The guy is in excellent condition. You don't honestly think that the Indiana Jones character we know and love would just sit down in his office at the University some day and say, "well, I'm to old to go out into the field and do archiology, I think I'll just hang up the whip, sit down in this chair and get fat and never leave the office again for the rest of my life." Thats not the type of character Indy is. He's going to be an active guy with much more exp and wisdom than he had in his youth. And when he gets realy old, well he'll still be out there mixing it up until he buys the ranch.
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The previews of A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) have convinced me of something about Steven Spielberg. As great as the man is, he has lost his directorial touch. Why go back to Indiana Jones when that genre has been taken to and beyond its limit? Such an attempt would likely be as bad as Blake Edwards' "Son of the Pink Panther". A.I. shows his now total lack of originality. This has been twice and perhaps soon three times before. The films are known as Terminator, Terminator 2 and Terminator 3. When the great man who brought us the masterpiece "Schindler's List" runs out of ideas, then hope for all Hollywood has been lost.
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There was another sighting of Nessie prior to Crowley. In 565 AD, it's recorded that Saint Columbus rescued a drowning swimmer and supposedly drove the monster away. However, I don't think the movie audience would have enough info to contradict or care one way or another.
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It's starting to get ugly. Let the man have some dignity and leave out the romantic interest unless it's Marion. Still think the idea of him finding Avalon and passing into legend is kind of a fitting end for the character.
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Actually to be quite honest I hope this movie does not get made. Because rest assured kids, if it does, Lucas will turn it into his own personal cash-cow.
We're talking action figures, underoos and Indy Jones condoms, ( I wonder if Darth Maul had a double edged condom?). Then he won't release it on DVD cause he is a damn pig. I used to respect the man...that was before the 20th re-release of the holy trilogy, which by the way should have stayed as a trilogy. So to sum it all up in my own opinion...RIP Indiana Jones.
George Lucas should stick to remaking Star Wars and ripping off kids...it's what he does best.
Or maybe he could team up with Bill Gates and create an OS that is re-released as a special edition or new boxed set every 6 months?
Hehe.
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I just thought the following would make a cool plot line:(please email me and tell me what ya think)>>>>>>>>> Well, considering the fact that Harrison Ford is gettin' up there in years I think it would be silly as hell to make him jumpin around on boats and jeeps and shit anymore, whipin bad guys and so forth. The teaming of him with his father in Last Crusade was great! So, why not put Indy in the "father" role and we can be introduced to his kid!Now, I'm thinkin this could be a child he never knew he had, possibly with Marion from the Lost Ark! From there you could throw in your "ancient" or "biblical" artifact that they are in search of and I think you got a fun story. Well, thats my 2 cents. Thanks for reading, tell me what you think. (Heath Ledger could probably play the son role, although I don't really care for him, he seems a reasonable actor for the part.)
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