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Moriarty's Got Your Ticket To See Ministry At The Flesh Fair!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Awesome. When you see this clip from AI, I defy you to stay blase about what Steven Spielberg is up to. This doesn't look anything like anything Spielberg's done before. It also doesn't look like Walt Disney or Stanley Kubrick, so my guess is we're just going to have to leave our preconceptions at home and prepare for whatever ride The Beard has in store for us. Big thanks to "Mattology" from chat for steering me towards this link. I hope you guys like it as much as I did. Excuse me now. While you go click the link below that will take you to Launch.com, I want to go watch it again m'self...
Ministry
What About Us?
"What should we do?"
"We run now."
"Moriarty" out.
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jude law gets to speak with an english accent, not some americanised/robot voice. I cannot wait to see this film - perhaps now, the reason for the R rating is becoming more obvious - mechas being blown up for entertainment, women making lewd references to vacuums - shame on you mr. speilberg.
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...I seriously hope that thing is waaaay out of context...otherwise, I think we're looking at a major crapfest... damn spielberg, don't fuck up!!! it's Kubrick for god's sake...(I still have some hope though...this might just be some weird publicity stunt...hopefully...oh hell)
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That trailer was composed completley from scenes from the movie right? No new shooting? That absolutely kicks so much ass. Does anyone know if this movie will actually be rated R? That would be so sweet. I'm guessing PG-13...
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I'm not worrying that Speilberg is going to "fuck this up" because I am not a big fan of his (not that I am not looking forward to seeing this). And this isn't a Kubrick movie. It's as much a Kubrick movie as Batman Forever is a Tim Burton movie...which is not at all.
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(sorry for the last post)... Harry, put it on Quicktime! I can't download it and my modem is too slow (I need a new one). Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Okay, all you regular moody, grumpy asshole talkbackers, it's time to shut your pieholes.
THAT THING ROCKED
I can not believe that was Spielberg...just no way. The music, the torture, the anti-robot rhetoric...just amazing.
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Looks like an epidode of Max Headroom. And it's too bad that Ministry became a bad parody of themselves a few years back, they used to be a pretty great band. Oh well, this gets put on to my dvd rental list now.
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Interesting, definately interesting. I don't think it was completely un-Kubrick like either, the coversation between Haley Joel Osmont and Jude Law had that vibe. And despite all the arguments about whether the movie is a Kubrick/Spielberg creation, it's the last thing we're ever likely to see with Kubrick's name attatched, at that's got to count for something
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OK..pretty damn sweet. I was fearing a wholsome approach to this story. Thank God it looks like I was wrong. I don't personally care for Ministry (Lords of Acid would have been better), but still nice. Also, anyone have a link for d/l? Streaming with a 56k blows!!!
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Jun 09, 2001 5:52:27 PM CDT
"Burning Inside! Burning Inside! Burning Inside!! *Der ner....nu
by iamlegolas
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Jun 09, 2001 6:10:02 PM CDT
Please Don't Pull a EP:1 on Me And convince your geekness that i
by duty
Im judging the movie, I want to see A.I. realy bad. But that video was total shit. one of the worst videos Ive seen in years. In 1991 it would have been good, But dear god man get out of the fucking house and see the shit from the outside. Pure shit. The movie could be the best summer movie, But who knows....But that video was not a good sign!!
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This looked like Steven's version of a Rob Zombie video. It was dark and demented... I am so there.
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PG, PG-13, R .... there are all sorts of rumors flying around. WTF? Gimme some goddamned facts or shut up! I tried www.mpaa.org but it seems they did not rate it up to now! Is that possible? I mean jesus this film is gonna come out June 29th ... Films like JP3 already have a rating and they wont come out till mid July! Now from that video alone i would say we can forget about PG. No fucking way! So now its PG-13 or R. Oh and by the way, all we poor Europeans will have to wait for this film TILL MID FUCKING SEPTEMBER!!! Aint that sweet???
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Pronto!
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Is this whole clip going to be in the film? Or is this just the video itself? I'd hate to see a whole five minute block of the movie being devoted solely just to promoting Ministry. Nothing against them, of course. Have to admit I'm getting even more curious about the film, and what exactly Mr. Speilberg is up to.
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When I first heard about the Mininsery/ Robot kill fest. I was hoping that Spielberg would be able to pull of the same sort of aesthetic that Coppola masterfully did years ago of mixing both entertainment and horror with the playboy bunny scene in Apocalypse Now. Sadly, It looks like He failed. None the less, I hope to God this movie dosen
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Well, a few props to Spielberg for enlisting Ministry in lieu of Static X or Orgy or some other batch of wannabes. But blacklight, neon, and shoulder pads are pretty lazy shorthand for "Cyberpunk Future". A little too Starlight Express-looking, if you know what I mean. And I'll bet Kubrick would've been cool enough to get Autechre.
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I went back and watched that a second time... I dunno, parts of it felt like it wasn't even Spielberg, but a second rate MTV video director. It just didn't feel like Steve to me (besides, 5 minutes centering completely on Ministry with some hokey robot captures and one blowing up into parachute treats? I think not.) Spielberg is a talented director, and I doubt he'd have stooped to MTV style direction... or taking five minutes out of his film to promote Ministry.
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thank god they didn't go with Orgy, although Ministry have definately seen better years. How can some of you people rip the movie already? Christ, there are some seriously depressed people out there. I mean you wanna rip Swordfish, or Tomb Raider, or Evolution before it comes out just because it looks like the same old formulaic tripe that we've seen 1000 times before? Fine, I'm right behind you there. But from what I understand, this video is just comprised of a few clips from the movie. Am I wrong? The best thing we have to go on at this point are the trailers, and I honestly don't know what to expect from this, but I'm holding judgement, since I honestly don't know what the hell to expect from this movie. But that's a good thing. I can't remember the last time I was actually "intrigued". I dress this way, just to keep them at bay, 'cuz halloween is every day. heyheyhey...
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Love him or hate him, you have to agree that Speilberg has enough experience to know that a four minute music video placed in the middle of a film is sure to fuck up it's pacing. I'm sure that the chick talking and the Jude Law stuff are in the movie, but the rest of it seems like leftover second unit stuff. Are we even sure that Speilberg directed this video?...I don't usually care for cyberpunk (Blade Runner, Akira,etc.), but this movie has me intrigued. Don't know if anyone saw it, but there was a new commercial during SNL here in NY. It was really long too. Wish I could remember it better, but I was half asleep. I know it started with the mother saying David had to go away, and then a shot of a "Total Recallish" car driving away. I seem to remember some quick shots of robotic dogs chasing David. Overall, pretty cool. Moriarty, you might want to track it down and post it here, if you haven't already.
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I'm embaressed to admit that I watched the whole thing. As a music video it was pitiful, as an excerpt from a movie it showcased spectacularly a number of the evil flaws and idiotic misconceptions we will have to suffer through AI.
The stars and bars costume on the woman was the most hilariously shallow 'message' in a music vid since the last Limp Bizkit vid I saw... Christ. Poor Stan. Poor, poor Stan.
First, Eyes Wide Shut, now THIS. At least he's doing the rot and won't have to suffer it. -
Christ, they must really be desperate for money. That looked like some piece of shit MTV 'cyberpunk' video - complete with the stupid camera angles and lighting. "The Land of Rape and Honey" and "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" - THOSE albums had some balls. "Scarecrow" denegrates a bit into techno industrial pop... then that whole "Jesus Built my Hotrod" thing was just too damn mainstream (polished & marketed). I HATE it when bands I once respected sell out so completely. I can understand A Jourg trying to reinvigorate the 'band' and gain a new audience, but at least try sticking to your principles a bit! This was sugar-candy, bubble-gum Ministry. "What about Us?" Come on - what happened to that hard edge? Get too comfortable... lose your agnst?
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I'm betting this is going to wind up rated R. Did anybody else notice the picture in Premiere magazine? Jude and Haley re standing right in front of a human-sized phallus, it seems to me. Like a larger, flesh-colored version of the bludgening phallus in CLOCKWORK ORANGE. **** As far as this clip goes, I doubt very seriously that Spielberg stops the action dead for a Ministry video. More than likely they appear and then become background rather than featured players.
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First of all, learn how to spell EMBARRASSED you fucking tool. It's one thing to disrespect the legacy of the greatest filmmaker who ever lived, another to do it in such a callous, pretentious and arrogant post. This film will be a wondrous gift from Mr. Spielberg and we should be thankful to see something so unconventional in this summer of dreck. When you're "doing the rot" what will they be saying about you and your accomplishments? Hmmmmm. Probably nothing. Because you are a loser.
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Right on!
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mms://216.136.156.149/launch/video/music/000/015/075/15075924.asf
you still need to feed that into a program like ASF Recorder to actually save the file -
http://216.136.156.149:80/launch/video/music/000/015/075/15075924.asf
make that into a URL and click save as to save to your hard drive
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I hate having to slow my typing down to correct typos when I'm in full ranting flow at such jerkwads as AI talkbacks generally attarct. But anyway...
I'd like to address any allegation that this Ministry clip is in some way 'unconventional' - well, it isn't. It looks like most other music vids of the 'performance style' to have been pumped out lately, not to mention the scene with the playboy bunnies in Apocalypse now.
If you honestly believe that I disrespect the legacy of Kubrick by saying that he's dead - ???? - and Spielberg doesn't by raping his project in such a disgraceful fashion, then maybe you should catch one of your shallow breathes, hold it and think for a moment.
A short postscript - I'm not entirely sure the critical faculties employed in the assessment of spelling afford you understanding of cinematic grammar. But that's irrelevant. Just amusing.
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I just don't recall this scene. I swear, Roger Walters was a visionary...so, guy holding the kid is Bob Geldof, right?
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Kubrick said he had found the song "Thieves" by Ministry delightful and amusing. How hard is it for people to get through their thick effing skulls that Kubrick WANTED Spielberg to direct ? There are INTERVIEWS with him saying he might only produce A.I. and not direct. Will people WATCH the damn movie before they condemn it PUHLEEEEEEEASE ? Especially when a quite capable director like Spielberg are making it. Sure Steve's made some duds but I doubt he'd piss over Kubrick's memory. He knows what's at stake here. Besides, I doubt he's going to ignore the 80 pages of production notes for the film that Kubrick had written. And when you take into account that he's now making ANOTHER sci-fi film, Minority Report, and that he can put all the ideas that he has into THAT one instead it would be ridiculous to NOT follow Kubrick's ideas for AI. Spielberg admired Kubrick as much as the rest of us and he will probably do us proud. If not, DON'T WATCH IT AND SHUT UP !!!!!!! Put those two little lips together and keep them tightly closed. Bitching about a movie has never made it go away. I hated Pearl Harbor to my very core and no words could convey all the bile and venom I had in my black little heart for it, so I kept my mouth shut and didn't go see it. Big studio heads will ignore the cries of scorned fans but they won't ignore lackluster box office, Get it ?
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featuring clips from the film - It is not a clip from the film. You lot can be so retarded at times. Lets look at the evidence - 1. Beard has never directed a video before - why would he start now? 2. Even if he had, do you really think he would let that pass as final cut. 3. It's on a music video site. 4. With other music videos.
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Well, here we go. Yes, it's obviously a music video. But also, it obviously contains elements of the film. Most inarguably the production design. So, Kubrick liked Ministry, and so what if he wanted Spielberg to direct? It doesn't mean Spielberg's going to make a good job of it. Film is a craft, not just choices made from taste. It's this craft that is going to let Spielberg down - his understanding of it is simple at best. Maybe Kubrick employed these techniques in a cool and calm way, and Spielberg in a more easily emotional fashion, but it's not even this I object to. It's the depth and complexity of their understanding. Why do you all think that Stanley is some kind of God, by the way?
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But Jeez! Are they(SS, dworks, etc) trying to keep us on our toes or are they just as confused as we are? How many controversies can one film have and still manage to have no heat among the general populace. They don't even know the name of the thing for chrissakes! How ironic is it that a movie title standing for "artificial intelligence" fell victim to the saddest display on non-intellegence since David Manning walked the earth? "A.I. what's that? Oh you mean A1, that movie from that guy who made that space movie. Oh wait, he's dead. Doesn't Sam Elliot do the voice-over or whatever on that?", "Uh, Steve. I think we have a problem."
Dreamworks really cooked up a wicked promo machine for this one, but it seems that outside the dork community, no one cares. Honestly, from the Chen mystery, to the steak sauce fiasco, to even the hint that this could be the first video "directed by SS," this thing should be huge. But i get the feeling that I'm the only one in town that's going to line up early. -
Oh-ho-ho, I needed a little industial transfusion like that this morning. You know, I first listened to Ministry around the time The Land of Rape and Honey came out. I thought they were brilliant then and judging from what I've just seen, they are still breaking new ground. While other industrial bands have wimped out or dissapeared altogether, Ministry is one of a handfull that's been churning out great original stuff for a long long time. I didn't click on the video when I first saw the headline, mainly because I thought I was seeing things. "I love Speilberg. He's a genius, but Ministry? I can't be THAT Ministry. Can it?" That kind of thinking. This looks like it will be another monumental chapter in Ministry's evolution as a band and (with all the appropriate nods to Kubrick who originated most of this) another chapter in Speilberg's evolution as a filmmaaker.
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So, we've established that amongst the talkback brigade, Kubrick is the ultimate arbiter of the quality of AI. Unfortunately, they have appointed themselves as the arbiters of Kubricks taste, now he festers underground. A stage of Spielberg's evolution? From purveyor of crow pleasers with simple as fuck gimmicks riddling them, to historical 'epics' that reduce monumental losses to trite propaganda and sentimentalism now evolves into cliche-sunken sci-fi melodrama that eschews the cerebral joys of it's themes to offer confirmation in six foot letters of neon that Spielberg can indeed make films with giant cock sculptures in them.
He's not a man, he is devo? Certainly not evo... -
to all you jackholes out disrespecting ministry out there calling them sell outs and shit like that.....yeah they sold out, I saw them last week at their Neverland type Ranch, drinking there lattes, and after that hanging out at the mall in front of the old navy shop, you fuking mongloids that think you are "real" cause they prefer some turd some inde record company put into a jewel case...and you really believe that only the underground shit has heart...yeah...walmart loved the content and cd covers of "filth pig" and "dark side of the spoon"...in fact they moved some of that backstreet boy shit to the back to make room for it.Yeah...there shit is all shiny and polished for the masses...you crackheaded psuedouberelitists...you are what you fukin hate
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Jun 12, 2001 5:27:59 PM CDT
"I want a vacuum that vacuums me!" -say our sexy sexbot coyly.
by domisinnerchild
The worst line of 2001?
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