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The latest director being RUSHed to helm RED DRAGON!

Published at:  Jun 07, 2001 2:51:43 AM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... Well, Quint has apparently learned from his source that Brett Ratner is currently being talked to about helming RED DRAGON. Personally while I like Ratner, I just think he's a bit glossy to be doing this material. This is as dark as they come, and we've never seen Ratner handle anything remotely like this. Can he do it? Well, it could be the film to get him into a new league of filmmaking... or prove that he should stick to comedies. Well, let's see what happens, he isn't signed yet.






Hey there, Harry... squirts... ladies and gentlemen. The world
travelling Crusty Seaman, Quint, here to let you fine folks in on a deep
dark secret. Remember back a couple of weeks ago when I found out about
Michael Bay and Nick Cage being offered Red Dragon?

Well, it seems that Bay is now out of the running. According to my
source, the studio still wants Nick Cage in the movie and are now "talking
to" another director that has worked with Cage in the recent past, Brett
Ratner. Yes, Brett "Family Man" Ratner.

Does this mean Ratner's going to direct the film? Nope. Does this
mean Ratner COULD potentially direct this film? Yes, it does. There is no
paper signed (that I know of), but according to my guy/girl/creature on the
inside, talks are going on between Ratner and Universal/MGM right now.

How does this bode for the film? I have nothing against Ratner as
a person. I've never met him, but I'm sure he's a nice guy. I also have
nothing against him as a filmmaker, necessarily. Rush Hour was fun. But him
doing Red Dragon?

The thing is I'm so in love with the Red Dragon script that I
can't stand to see the studios taking it people who won't do it justice.
Ratner and Bay are guys that have proven to make fun/stupid movies. Red
Dragon is a serious screenplay that is brilliantly crafted by Ted Tally and
I'd hate to see all of Mr. Tally's work be for not.

I just keep finding myself beating my head against the wall on
this project. How hard is it to approach a director that has actually proven
they can make this type of movie in the past? I mean, really. If the studio
is still going to try to give it to a visual filmmaker, why not offer it to
David Fincher or Spike Jonze... hell! Why not go completely off the wall and
ask Cronenberg or John Carpenter? Cronenberg tackled similar material in The
Dead Zone and Carpenter is the king of the anti-hero, which, let's face it,
is just what Hannibal Lecter is.

Well, guys, I'm officially depressed about this project. The more
news I hear, the worse it gets. I wish they could just give Demme the movie,
no matter what he's asking to do it. But that might be just me. You guys
talkback who should helm/star/shoot/grip/light/cater this project.

Anyway, time for me to shove off my fellow seaman and lovely
mermaids. I gots lots of cool shit coming, so keep watching the page,
squirts. 'Til that day, this is Quint bidding you all a fine farewell and
adieu.

Being the Sailor I am, and in New York the past few days, I have some salty stories for ya soon!



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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:00:54 AM CDT

    Ratner...

    by bluelou_boyle

    Jesus Christ no.
    Carpenter could work. His recent work has been too light for this film perhaps, but with the thing and prince of darkness (an underrated classic) he proved he can do dark and foreboding. Which is what this film sounds like.
    Speaking of which, UK residents might like to know that 'Ginger Snaps' is being released on 29th June. Check out total film mag for a rave review.

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  • nuff said

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:15:39 AM CDT

    ratner=dickhead

    by foreverdark

    i worked with ratner on rush hour2 and he has to the biggest dikhead of all time...big ego..thinks hes spielberg..hes more like the guy who directed dungeons and dragons..ohh gosh i hate him soo much...i could go on for days about him....

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:21:52 AM CDT

    No, no, no

    by frightnen

    It's "naught". Not "not".

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:26:34 AM CDT

    I'm with Bannlust....

    by wilko

    The chances of anyone making a better job of it than Michael Mann with MANHUNTER are astronomically against. I'm so sick of this remake/sequel thing. There's plenty of talent in Hollywood, but it's the same few assholes who keep appearing ad nauseum for every new "project". They'll never learn cos they never have.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:26:53 AM CDT

    ACTUALLY...

    by seattle sleww

    At least it's not Shatner!

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:56:54 AM CDT

    This is ridiculous

    by projectordust

    Dino DeLaurentis is a greedy old man.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 4:12:42 AM CDT

    NO NO NO! Not Ratner.

    by pupkin

    If they want glossy and visual, why not Burton? Why not give it to Michael Mann to remake? Why not give it to my neighbours Parrot because he would probably relate to the material better than Brett Ratner! As much as I like Cage, as long as he is envolved it is doomed to mainstream shiny movie hell. And of all the directors Cage has worked with, why are Brett Ratner and Michael Bay at the top of this list? what about David Lynch or Scorsese, you know, grown-ups. Almost any strong director could bend themselves to this material, especially if its as good as Quint says.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 4:31:20 AM CDT

    I hope....

    by cameron fry

    they drop Cage and let the CSI guy be Will again. He deserves another try at the character.
    Manhunter sucked

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  • Jun 07, 2001 4:38:57 AM CDT

    What are they, *seeking out* shitty directors for this??

    by martinblank

    Oh, Ratner is eminently qualified to direct 'Red Dragon' based on his solid grasp of suspense and the macabre in 'The Family Man' and his Chris Tucker movies. Further proof, if any were needed, that this project is Unnecessary. It was Not Meant to Be. What are they, offering this to any shitmeister whose movies happen to make money? Why not just give it to a porn director, for fuck's sake. Their movies make money too. Can I just remind people, NOBODY was colder than Demme before 'Silence'...he hadn't had a hit since his drive-in days, 'Married to the Mob' had tanked following a suicidally stupid ad campaign (how many out there passed on it on the basis of the idiotic-looking trailer? you too? yep, I discovered it on video). But then, 'Silence' was made in the ancient days when dinosaurs roamed the earth and good directors got hooked up with good projects just because they were GOOD DIRECTORS, not because their last opus had a $35m opening weekend. *** Damn, I miss Orion in retrospect. They were ballsy, they did 'Platoon' and 'Amadeus' and 'Dances with Wolves' and 'Silence' and lots of other good stuff...but hey! Now they're gone! Long live Miramax, the fake indie corporate cockchuggers..."selling Doritos to bovine America..."

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  • Jun 07, 2001 4:44:46 AM CDT

    oh, and Pupkin...

    by martinblank

    You mentioned Lynch as one of the "y'know, adult directors" who could do up "Red Dragon" better than Ratboy. I totally agree, Lynch could fart a better movie than Ratner could make on his best day...but Lynch was offered "Manhunter" in the '80s and turned it down. "No redeeming qualities," he said. Evidently he was too squeamish about the material. This from the guy who gave us...well, you know what he gave us. Anyway, Lynch is more into mysteries than into police-procedural "catch the killer" thrillers. There would have been no room in "Red Dragon" for the Lynchian digressions and oddities we know and love. Having said that, I'd love to see him tackle "The Alienist."

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  • Jun 07, 2001 5:09:01 AM CDT

    Hold on a second this could be good!!...

    by monke

    ....Yeah and have Nic Cage as Will Graham, Chris Tucker as Dr Lecter(Man who likes to talk), and Jackie Chan as Francis Dolarhyde(Doesn't say much but great with action)!!!
    That would be a great movie!!

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  • Jun 07, 2001 6:30:22 AM CDT

    Slowbro....

    by cameron fry

    Ok, so Manhunter didn't totally suck, but I didn't like the music at the end. Kind of distracting. Maybe I was expecting something more, since I didn't see it till after I had seen some more superior Mann material (specifically Heat). I loved the book though. In terms of Ratner, I don't see him as a suitable director. I did like the Family Man alot, for some reason. Does that make me gay? Either way, a remake will suck cause they'll beef up the Lecter part, and the book wasn't really about that. It'd be cool if they gave him the extra finger though, like in the book.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 7:29:53 AM CDT

    Carpenter would be an awesome choice

    by asseyes

  • Jun 07, 2001 7:48:11 AM CDT

    Terence Malick or Darren Aronofsky should direct

    by hagrid1

    I think Red Dragon, which at its' heart is about mental trauma (Will Graham's mind is in ruins after going into Lecter's head, and the movie is about him coming to grips with it) then you would do well to hire a filmmaker whose specialties lie in making films about getting inside people's heads. Getting into Lecter's head, and having the audience hear what's going on in voiceover could be pretty interesting...

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  • The only reason they are doing this is because 'they' want to see Anthony Hopkins and make lots of money... okay that's 2 reasons!

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:09:30 AM CDT

    Woo

    by madship

    If the producers are insisting on someone who has worked with Cage. Get John Woo. It may be a bit strange wit all of the slow motion, doves and pigeons, but it would be cool.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:25:08 AM CDT

    Ratner?!? I've never seen a director as disgusting and dirty as

    by user id indeed!

    Sorry, I couldn't resist. Personally, I'd get Demme as director, William Hurt as Graham and... Terry Gilliam as Dolarhyde. I know, Dolarhyde's a big hulking brute, but Gilliam's got the width and he's got that sort of... deformed look. And Glenn Close as Yaaanma Dolarhyde! Ooh! Gettin' that Alex Winter vibe already! Natalie Portman as Reba? No, too young. How 'bout Reba McEntire? What the hell, get Marisa Tomei, I don't care. Hey, let's get Issabella Rossellina as Molly, that kid from "12 Monkeys" as Willy, and Gary Oldman as the voice of the Dragon! Ooh! CLINT HOWARD AS FREDDY LOUNDS!!! OOOOH! Not to toot my own horn or anything, but TOOT TOOT! Call me Tally, I'll give your script faces, man, faces. This has been a Moment with Cunt Face!... I mean, User ID Indeed! Sorry.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:27:02 AM CDT

    Just get Mann to do it!

    by bigtuna

    As someone mention, " Heat" was a tv movie he made and then remade it as an excellent film onscreen. Too bad Manhunter bombed and more people knew about it because then they would just leave this idea be. BTW I hate when people complain about Manhunter being too 80's and too much like Miami Vice. The film was made in 85' and right around the time of the Miami Vice craze. Stupid argument! BTW Family Man WAS a solid film, a story we had seen many times over but it was well made.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:28:00 AM CDT

    Ratner... and Cage

    by lordzanthos

    While I hated the thought of Bay doing this... Ratner? Why the hell isn't anyone incensed that a no-talent, single expression, monotone supposed "actor" like Cage is playing a part that will require a nuanced, intelligent, deeply moving performance that shows the inner turmoils of a brilliant, conflicted detective? Cage has the range of a daisy air-rifle, and the personality of a wilted head of lettuce. Don't even mention the shit-head's oscar, everyone with a brain cell in their head knows he didn't deserve it, and he only got one because of two things: 1.) he's Coppola's nephew, 2.)the bastards that make up the predjudiced inane academy were trying that year to make a "statemant" regarding the fact they were still "with it," "hip," and still could discern good film. LLV was a film marred by stupid, overly-self involved characters, and a performance by the leading man (who couldn't act his way put of a paper sack) that was so wooden, they should have built ships, not made a movie... that was completely off topic now wasn't it? The director and actor are both terribly idiotic choices. They need to get someone good in there. Maybe Fitchner and Morgan Freeman or Samuel Jackson, Keven Spacey... I'm not sure who, but I'd never in a million years see a movie made with the crew thay have in there now... this is almost as bad as that psychotically STUPID idea to allow Cage to be Superman... the amount of coke they are doing in Hollywood is really starting to show (more than it did before).

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:36:11 AM CDT

    I thought Rattner was doing the next Bond

    by spacesheik

    Brett Rattner would not be a bad choice, considering the alternatives (Michael Bay anyone?). But I thought Rattner was being pushed by MGM onto the Eon Bond people to take over the Bond franchise and "Americanize" it. I personally do not think that Rattner is that great with action either - nothing, action-wise, in RUSH HOUR was was earth-shattering. It had generic choreography and stunts, nothing new. I don't know what Rattner could either do with the Bond franchise or RED DRAGON. I don't think he has the stylistic touch to tackle that morbid Lecter thriller effectively either.

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  • And here I thought Harry was about to announce the green-lighting of "RED DRAGON: a film by Geddy Lee".

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:10:24 AM CDT

    Actually, Flansy.....

    by mrbeaks

    I may be the only one who was led to believe that Richard Rush was actually in consideration. Come to think of it, that's not such a bad idea, provided he turns in a STUNT MAN rather than a COLOR OF NIGHT.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:23:28 AM CDT

    I guess it depends on what the hell story they are telling

    by sundown

    my only complaint about manhunter would be it diverges fromt he book at key moments specifically the end twist with the blind girl whicvh could prove superior ro anything done in thrillers since. But it stil will be much more accurate than anything they do now. Do they intend to make a sequel to Hannibal and warp Red Dragon into being that? In Red Dragon Hanninal was pure evil much more so than Silence or Hannibal. SO will they tell it through flashback and his pov to allow the older Hopkins in there? Why butcher Red Dragon why not just do a sequel to Hannibal since it diverged fromt he book series anyway!? Red Dragon deserves a faithful adaption not some Lost World treatment (even though both the book and film sucked) My pick would be William Friedkan to direct, Gary Sinise as Graham, Kevin Spacey as Lector and Ahnuld himself as Dollarhyde because if you remember he was a weightlifter and this could be ahulds chance to get in shape and show off his physique while playing a scary nut. I think he could pull it off. It would be kooky. I always loved the Iron Butterfly at the end of the original though....

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:24:18 AM CDT

    ratner could be a good choice

    by jetlii

    he hasn't tackled anything very dark yet but i think he could pull it off if he devotes himself in to the project. i think they should give this to robert rodriguez because he could bring something new to the franchise. i think robert should be the one to take on the bond series and mexicanize it. i can see the plot already: Bond goes to mexico to find out what is wrong with the water where he meets salma hayek and then beds her. what bond doesn't know is that she is infected with the disease in the water. he is infected too and now is more motivated to find a cure for the disease. he gets close by going into a bar and asks for the cure and has a big gunfight with cheech marin and quentin tarantino. that's all i have for now but you people should help me out.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:24:18 AM CDT

    Everybody calm down

    by jedi pimp

    I'd be shocked if Michaek Bay or this ratner character have anything to do with Red Dragon. I have faith there gonna get a quality to helm this thing. If they didn't care, they would not have gotten Ted Tally to do the screen play.

    Personally, I'd kinda like to see Clarice and Will Graham tam up to catch Lechter, and have the "Red Dragon" story told through flash backs, sorta similar to God Father II. But really, what the hell do I know?

    Manhunter is a pretty good flick though, I was just rewatching last night. Michale Mann loves to do scenes by big windows during sunsets!

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:25:33 AM CDT

    Manhunter sucked.

    by cifra2

    The fact is I saw it on video five years ago and I nearly fell asleep. Bad thing for a thriller to lay in oblivion in my memory. I only recall Brian Cox's fine performance as Hannibal Lecter, so what's the point in making a remake? Getting Anthony Hopkins? For God's sake, I'll only see this one if Carpenter, Weir or somebody in their league (great directors) do this one. Fuck Nick Cage! Get Travolta instead.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 9:45:35 AM CDT

    Travolta?!?

    by jor-el's son

    why the hell would you want that no-talent ass clown anywhere near this? Unless, of course, you want it to suck......alright, maybe Travolta should do it. But he should have to wear the dreads from Battlefield Earth.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 10:20:51 AM CDT

    UGH! Can we just see how Rush Hour 2 performs first?

    by superninja

    Admittedly, I'm biased. I've only seen Rush Hour, but I'm getting tired of hearing in interviews how everyone thinks this guy is some kind of genius. He's done three comedies with Tucker and Family Man.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 10:41:56 AM CDT

    While they're at it, why not remake Casablanca.

    by scoobydo-do

    Manhunter is a bona fide classic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This project should be aborted and everyone involved taken into therapy.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 10:56:12 AM CDT

    dream much, will?

    by xlogik909

    i dont think theres much need to get worked up over the bi weekly
    "Peter Farrely is going to direct red dragon!" type of speculative news. I think Universal is on an unfortunate hallucinative and are just desperate to get work(as someone said on a related post)
    'that hannibal 3 disc' out.
    will they be able to capture those uterly chilling moments when coz says to peterson via the phone 'dream much, will?' or the tension between peterson and farina toward the end when he suggests that they can be at the 'next' crime scene within hours? though, a remake *could* be a stroke of brillaince. red dragon screams surreal/lucid CGI, and i would LOVE to see a film version of the metropolitain art scebe. to me thatd be worth it alone. i loved how quint in his news mentioned jonze...my hopes are for the mtv style directors and my list would be:

    1. david fincher
    2. mark romanek
    3. spike jonze
    4. tarzem singh
    5. jonathem demme
    (and yes, michael mann, going by
    how the 'blue' tone of the insider would definately work)

    :: xlogik ::
    *who just shakes his head at how nbc 'showed' se7en last night*

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  • Jun 07, 2001 12:39:09 PM CDT

    Ratner? You must be joking!

    by fant

    This talentless hack couldn't direct traffic. He was lucky that Rush Hour made a lot of money. Why is beyond me. His movies look like early eighties with better film stock and color correction. He doesn't know the first thing about acting or actors, (which is kind of essential for Red Dragon, don't you think?)his camerawork is lazy and unimaginative and DONE and the guy is just a prick!I worked with the guy 10 years back on some cheesy music videos and he managed to screw those up while celebrating his own greatness. The guy is a Hollywood "Ho", so please good executives...give him "Ho" projects (Rush Hour 2,3,4 and 5)and leave the good material to someone with actual talent.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 12:41:17 PM CDT

    yeah, Travolta...

    by cifra2

    Forget that "Battlefield: Earth" crap. Remember him in: Pulp Fiction, Get Shorty, A Civil Action. He's far better than Nick Cage (just watch Face/Off and see how Johnnie eats Nick in EVERY frame of the movie). An Oscar for Cage, none for Travolta? Well, Leaving Las Vegas' role was easy for a just fine actor. Travolta's nods were for two VERY DIFFICULT parts: "Saturday Night Fever" (everyone thought that Travolta was ACTUALLY the character) and "Pulp Fiction" (a simple character, based in dialogue). So, now repeat Travolta is not good. And for the director, the one that named Terrence Mallick... you want "Manhunt" to last for three hours?

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  • Jun 07, 2001 1:28:57 PM CDT

    Manhunter & Mann

    by thedanshadow

    I absolutely love Michael Mann's last three movies to death. He's an awesome filmmaker; one of the best. Heat was so great. Great screenplay, great direction, great cast, great soundtrack. So perfect. The Insider was in the same vein, Pacino shines doing Mann's doalogue, the cast was great, especially Crowe (who would have thought to cast him as a chubby old scientist). Soundtrack was great, style was amazing. Great cinematography and editing. And I love The Last of the Mohicans. A superb adaption of the early movie (not of the book, per se), great action, great music, a lot of passion, and emotion, and drama. A big romantic period adventure which kicks The Patriot's ass. I can't wait for Ali, and I hope Michael Mann makes Gates of Fire, which was a fantastic book. I also love Silence of The Lambs, a uniformly strong and note-pefect movie by Demme. However I bought the special edition 2-disc Manhunter DVD, was so looking forward to an awesome movie...and was amazed by how cheap and crappy and dated it looked. My god. It's the same tone as Heat or The Insider, by it looks like shit, with bad pacing, photography, editing, production design. I feel asleep about halfway through, and I have yet to finish it. I was so dissapointed. And my god did that music suck during the love scene. This movie is dying for a twenty-first century remake.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 1:31:43 PM CDT

    Sorry about the misspellings in the last post, I didn't mean to

    by thedanshadow

    Man, that's embarassing.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 1:39:01 PM CDT

    no subject

    by chainsaw

    Why don't they go the whole hog and let a true auteur like Gil Junger or Jerry Paris helm it. I can't believe any sane human being having seen a Brett Ratner movie would ever want to let him make another. Besides which Manhunter, for all its flaws is massively superior to Hannibal and Silence of the Lambs. Hopkins is a great actor but his Lecter is the stuff of pantomime. Cox's Lecter on the other hand remains definitive, a charming sociopath whom one can easily imagine going undetected in the outside world. Hopkins is just way too Dr Phibes to ever be credible...

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  • Jun 07, 2001 2:20:15 PM CDT

    you know who would be great?

    by gah rides again

    It will never happen, but Paul Thomas Anderson. Seriously. He loved Demme almost to a fault, and I think he might get a kick out of the challenge. He has said he's interested in directing something he didn't create... I'll go on dreaming now...

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  • Jun 07, 2001 2:24:05 PM CDT

    Manhunter=$$$$

    by ownerx

  • Jun 07, 2001 2:29:06 PM CDT

    Dusk Till Dawn

    by ownerx

    WHy remake a perfectly good film?
    Beacuse it was a sleeper back in
    '86. They want to cash in. Why do
    you think it is called Red Dragon
    when they show it on TV? It makes
    me as sick as when they ruin perfectly good novels by putting
    the movie poster on the cover. Whatever the script is now--it will change. They are going to turn Hannibal Lecter into Freddy
    Krueger--spouting humorous lines that make us chuckle at their slight gruesomness. Read the book,
    rent the video. Don't remake a
    perfectly good film. There must be
    at leat one decent unfilmed script out there. What about Harry's Dusk Till Dawn Opus?

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  • Jun 07, 2001 2:29:19 PM CDT

    Bryan Singer should do it

    by adrockboy5001

    Rush Hour was crap, I'm sorry to say. Uninventive and cliche. I think Bryan Singer has what it takes to do this, if they're going to have to do it.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 2:42:17 PM CDT

    what a horrible choice.

    by a goonie

    okay. that's just retarded. i'm sorry, Rush Hour was fine and all, but for fuck's sake, there is NOTHING, absolutely nothing that hints to me that Ratner can pull this off. and Cage? what the fuck? the truth is, i used to like the guy. then i came to my senses. then i saw "the family man" on a plane a couple months ago, and kinda liked it. i mean, i kinda liked nic cage in it. and i discovered that cage can pull off one role relatively well: the down on his luck, sorta ugly everyday guy. i mean, he's very good in both Leaving Las Vegas and Bringing Out the Dead, and in both movies he's this normal dude having going through a rough time. okay, i feel as tho i'm getting off-topic. i don't like nic cage very much. that's the point. he sucked in 8mm, he sucked in Gone in 60 Seconds, and i'm sure he'll 100 percent suck in Capt. Corelli's Mandolin. and Ratner is a bad choice. i mean, The Silence of the Lambs is one of fav movies. Demme's direction is flat-out inspirational. the movie just fucking rocks. it's beyond great, if you ask me. then along comes stupid mr. ridley scott who sits down with stupid mr. steve zaillain (or however u spell that name) and they make a pretty bad movie with standard shitty scott slo-mo, and well, it was just a huge disappointment. after i saw the movie, even tho i didn't like it, i went out and bought the book. i don't read books all too often. i'm a very slow reader. but i just finished it the other day, and damn, it's one of the best fucking books i've ever read. harris just knocked my socks off. sooooo good. anyhow, the point is, Silence was gorgeous, Hannibal was a disappointment in standard Ridley Scott fashion, and well, i just can't get that excited for Red Dragon. i don't want anything more than Silence. not when it comes to movies. i'm overly happy with demme's vision and that's good for me.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:03:52 PM CDT

    Paul Thomas Anderson! I actually thought the same thing

    by thedanshadow

    The man's an original in his screenwriting, but I'm sure whatever direction he took is visualizing Tally adaption to the screen would be capitivating and emotional brutal.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 3:40:59 PM CDT

    David O Russell/Peter Weir

    by sierramountain

    Either of those two should direct Manhunter, it would be nice to see David Fincher direct it, but don't think it would happen. A filmmaker's worst nightmare is doing something he's already done. David O Russell or Peter Weir would be absolutely perfect for this kind of material. O Russell can inject the project with brutal yet honest cynicism and sophisticated dark humor(not the cheeky bullshit humor that was in Hannibal), and his offbeat visual style will be something I definitely want to see. Peter Weir, simply because he's the second director who is an expert at dissecting the psychology of a lead character and breaking him apart so the audience can dwell inside the lead character as the story unfolds. Michael Mann is the master at this but I can't see him directing another movie related to Hannibal Lecter.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 4:55:08 PM CDT

    Give Ratner this stupid movie...

    by jefferylebowski

    and let Jonathan Demme helm "Rush Hour 3: The Search for More Money."

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  • Jun 07, 2001 5:27:41 PM CDT

    Here's an idea ...

    by hktelemacher

    ... "Red Dragon" can be offered up as a sacrifice. They can let Fred Durst direct this flick instead of his teen-"Deliverance" and we'll never see his name in movies again. I think it's worth it.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 5:52:31 PM CDT

    a waste of time...

    by jeichstedt

    ...and merely a cash-in. Regardless of what one thinks of Manhunter (I loved it), the book has already been filmed, and in the not too distant past. Tally's script may be a good one, but all the talk of expanding Lector's role betrays the book! The book isn't about him, it's about Graham's hunt for Dollarhyde, and the methods of his pursuit. Call me cynical, but giving Lector more screen time smacks of "giving the audience what it wants", as defined by studios and/or producers, rather than simply telling a good story.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 5:58:36 PM CDT

    DH had this weeks ago.

    by mulengro

    Garth at DH said Bay wasn't going to be a factor a long time ago. Why should we believe that this is suddenly correct?

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  • Jun 07, 2001 6:08:59 PM CDT

    Yeah, I though Lilli Zanuck as well...

    by cdbates

    or Richard Rush. Brent Rattner does not have the sensibility for this type of material. Just my opinion of course. BTW: Whatever happened to Richard Rush. I remember the very funny Freebie and the Bean and the terrific Stunt Man (Have it on Beta - waiting for DVD). Then he got involved in Air America and lost that project, and did Color of Night (Gag!). Since then, nothing.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:10:51 PM CDT

    DAVID FINCHER should do this! If it's going to be

    by madmike

    done again, it should be done by a director who can pick up all of the little story elements that Mann left out and make a totally gripping thrillride that is different from the original in every possible way. Best choice definatley. Singer would make it very cerebral and compelling. P.T.A. would make it very sweeping making you see all the days the weeks dolarhyde spends choosing his families. No this film needs to get under your skin, it needs to get into the dark places. It needs to make you fear a camera while keeping you totally wrapped in the story. That is the specialty of David Fincher. Imagine the leash to Hannibal being held in his hand.

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  • Jun 07, 2001 8:30:16 PM CDT

    I just saw MANHUNTER and I loved it

    by tall_boy

    but yeah, I agree that it doesn't seem like a Hannibal Lecter story, but I kinda like how it holds him in the background. I dunno how bringing him to the forefront would work (or would even be able to work into the narrative) but yeah, Wil Ghram is the definte center of the story. But, as I watched, I kept wondering how Hopkins would tackle the materiel, so I WOULD be down with seeing that. So yeah, go RED DRAGON movie. As for me, I'm gonna go and start reading the book right now

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  • I can see why MGM should put a billion dollar franchise into the hands of some directors(Fincher-fight club,Aronofsky-requium,PI,Jonze-BJM) whose last movies combined made less then a hundred million. God forbid they hire a director who makes movies people want to see. Fanboys should just keep living with thier mothers, drooling and masturbating about the Lord of The Rings Trilogy, and dreaming about how great the new Batman movies are going to be.

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  • That would be great! - "You see, what these Democrats in Washington don't understand is that Red Dragons, and heroes like Col. Olliver North and Sideshow Bob, deserve better movies"

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  • Jun 08, 2001 5:47:27 PM CDT

    Red Dragon

    by mike1949

    I saw Red Dragon after reading it and I thought it was a dead on version of the book. I thought Brian Cox as Hanibal [Mel Gibsons Uncle Argyle in Braveheart] was much more credable as far as being able to exist outside an institution without scaring the shit out of people. My only problem with the film was they changed the ending. The ending of the book involved an insane chase on the beach in front of Will Grahms house with a 38 special and a fishing rod with a large treble hooked bass plug used as a weapon with much mayhem ensuing. As an avid fisherman I enjoyed it.Other than that I dont see any point in remaking it.

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  • Jun 08, 2001 9:25:22 PM CDT

    Red Dragon (the book) is overrated.

    by mikesal222

    I know I'm in the minority on this one, but RED DRAGON didn't get my blood pumping nearly as much as I thought it would.
    The ending was more predictable than shocking, and the first half of the book is kind of boring.
    THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS is easily the best book of the "Hannibal Trilogy."
    RED DRAGON is probably second-best.
    HANNIBAL would have been a lot better if they stayed in Florence instead of jumping back and forth from the U.S. to Florence, back to the U.S. The ending was bizzare, but I didn't mind it nearly as much as some did.
    The movie is actually better than the book.

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  • Jun 09, 2001 12:35:04 AM CDT

    more Ratner Rants.....

    by rondo

    I am learning to be open minded,even when I hear someone say "this guy is a genius"and even when the guy HIMSELF says it:and sometimes I'm actually impressed,like,wow,this IS good.

    But,Rush Hour was a fluke,as much as I love Chan,this movie had no reason to be as big as it was.But that's Hollywood,you're nobody,then your film is a hit and you get all the offers.Ego in Hollywood?Say it ain't so!

    There was a recent article on Ratner,I can't believe people,he actually had an assistant to POUR MILK INTO HIS CEREAL!I'm speechless,you become a hot director and suddenly you need slaves?

    One last thing,and this PROVES Ratner is a dork.

    HE CHEATED ON REBECCA GAYHEART!
    YOU FRIGGIN' IDIOT!HELLO?

    If I wasn't so busy comforting poor Rebecca I would kick Ratner's ass.....yo.

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  • Jun 09, 2001 11:28:04 AM CDT

    Shit

    by ted lebowski

    You dick-suckers should lighten the fuck up! Give the man a chance.

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  • Jun 10, 2001 11:40:21 AM CDT

    HARRY'S a kiss ass

    by skiopps

    ``Rush Hour was fun''Harry can you please take the dick out of your mouth and write a decent article or did you sell out to everyone.Ratner's a hack.So are you.

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