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Harry here... Our Disney Watchdog, Jim Hill is focusing his laser-gaze at The Walt Disney Corporation and shaking his head in disgust... And frankly, this is something I've been quite concerned about privately. I love ebay, it is a home away from home for collectors like me, but I have to wonder if the people running the studios really understand what selling key props means... A couple of weeks ago the Rocketeer JetPack was up for sale... I stared in horror... How could anyone sell the Rocketeer JetPack? In the same Auction they were selling off the costumes to TRON, as well as some magnificient furniture from the 20,000 Leagues Beneath The Sea's Nautilus... the piano stool that Captain Nemo sat upon while playing that wondrous pipe-organ. Sigh... As Indiana Jones says, "This belongs in a museum!" Sure I own props... I have the arm-chair from TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE that Marilyn Burns is tied to in the dinner scene.... I have a prop from the Skull Island Natives in KING KONG (1933).... along with a few other items... The preservation of film history by the studios has long been considered to be insignificant and unworthy of keeping. Thus it is possible to own Errol Flynn's sword from THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD.... Spielberg can own the original ROSEBUD sled... But that belongs in a museum... ROSEBUD shouldn't be owned by some guy for his own private display... That IS FILM HISTORY! It is the centerpiece of a museum somewhere... Sigh, read on and learn...
Harry --
Came across an odd little story tonight that I thought might
interest AICN readers. Given your love of sci-fi
and film history -- I thought you'd be interested to hear about this:
The executives who run the Walt Disney Company love to give the
public the impression that their corporation is this well oiled machine.
That every division of Mickey's vast media empire works in perfect
synchronization with every other arm of the company so that each new
product/project that the Mouse Factory pumps out gets the best possible
shot at reaching its target audience *AND* (more importantly) making a
couple of bucks. "Synergy" is the term they use to describe this
phenomenon, or so I've been told.
And there are times that the Mouse Machine admittedly does work with
amazing efficiency. I mean, just at the enormously effective promotional
campaign that the Walt Disney Company put together for "Pearl Harbor."
From that very first trailer that hit theaters back in November to all
those TV commercials where Martin Sheen does the voice-over to the cover
of "Newsweek" to last night's premiere aboard that aircraft carrier, the
U.S.S. John C. Stennis -- Mickey's marketing staff did a masterful job
of promoting this project. Right now, there isn't a man, woman or child
alive in North America that doesn't know "Pearl Harbor" is "Coming to a
theater near you" this Friday.
It's at moments like this that Disney actually does earn its
reputation for being this all seeing, all knowing super corporation. But
then there are the other times when it's pretty obvious that Steamboat
Willie is asleep at the wheel.
Case in point: On June 15th, Walt Disney Studios will be releasing
"Atlantis: The Lost Empire." This is really a ground-breaking project
for Disney Feature Animation, Harry. For "A:TLE" is supposed to be a
straight action-adventure, an epic film in the grand tradition of
Disney's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" and "The Island at the Top of
the World." Or so says Disney's promotional staff.
Well, if you follow this link
(CLICK HERE TO BEHOLD THE HYPERION!!!),
you'll discover that "grand tradition" evidently doesn't mean as much to
the Mouse as it used to, Harry. Just weeks before "Atlantis" hits
theaters, Mickey is selling off the Hyperion.
That's right, kids. The Hyperion. That beautiful red & gold airship
that Professor Ivarsson (David Hartman) and Sir Anthony Ross (Donald
Sinden) flew up into the Arctic. In their desperate search for Sir
Anthony's son, these intrepid explorers encountered a lost viking
colony, tried to out-run some molten lava, battled killer whales ... in
addition to discovering the whaler El Dorado, the fabled place " where
the whales go to die ..."
Okay, okay. I'll admit it. "Islands" ain't exactly great cinema. The
picture's really just a "20,000 Leagues" wanna-be, just like the
studio's 1979 release, "The Black Hole." That said, there's still no
denying that this 1974 Walt Disney Production has a certain cheesy
charm.
Plus it's also pretty obvious that "Islands" -- and the Hyperion in
particular -- still has some big-time fans inside the Walt Disney
Company. I mean, just look at that full-sized replica of the airship
that Master Imagineer Tony Baxter had built and installed in Disneyland
Paris' DiscoveryLand. And what about Kirk Wise, Gary Trousdale, Don Hahn
and the rest of the "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" production team. These
guys must have a major soft spot when it comes to this Disney dirigible.
Don't believe me? Next month, when you're watching "Atlantis," pay
particularly close attention to the balloon that Helga Sinclair (voiced
by Claudia Christian) and Commander Rourke (James Garner) use to make
their ascent inside the volcano. Do the colors and styling used on this
vehicle look familiar? They should. That's because "A:TLE" 's art
department went out of their way to make this balloon look as much like
the Hyperion as possible.
But I guess all that doesn't matter now, because the Hyperion's up
for sale. And this is the really-for-real Hyperion, folks. One
of the 9 foot long models that was built back in 1973 and actually used
in the production of the film. This particular airship has been on
display in Disney Studios' prop warehouse for decades now. Disneyana
dweebs could always be counted on to squeal
with delight whenever they spotted it hanging down from the rafters.
Of course, this model of the Hyperion is just one of the many props
that the Walt Disney Company currently has up for bid at its official
"Disney Auctions" site. Were you to poke around the site's "Movie &
Television Props" list, you'd find that the Mouse is also selling off
items from "Mary Poppins," "Bedknobs & Broomsticks" as well as the
studio's woefully under-appreciated 1991 release, "The Rocketeer."
Now it seems somewhat hypocritical for a company
that makes such a big deal about promoting and protecting its heritage
(Remember all those limited edition "75 Years of Magic" items that the
Mouse put up for sale at the Disney Store two years ago? Or -- better
yet -- how about the "100 Years of Magic" promotion that Mickey will
unveiling this October so that the Walt Disney World resort can cash in
on the 100th anniversary of Walt Disney's birth?) to be selling off its
old costumes and props just to make a few bucks.
Of course, to hear the folks who actually work at "Disney Auctions"
tell it, they'll maintain that the Walt Disney Company has warehouse
after warehouse loaded up with this sort of crap. And no one but a
hardcore Disney dweeb and/or maybe a film historian is really going to
give a rat's ass if the company sells off a few of the original
Mousketeers costumes, a parade float from Disneyland or the robots that
were used in "The Black Hole." (These last three were actual items that
have been put up for bid by the "Disney Auctions" staff in the
not-too-distant past ... ) This people actually feel like they're doing
a service for the Disney corporation. After all, it clears up storage
space around the lot. Plus it puts a few bucks in Mickey's pocket. So
where's the harm?
Well ... Given that very few people who work at the Walt Disney
Company these days are over the age of 30, I doubt that there's many
people who recall the infamous MGM auction of 1970. That's when -- in
order to make a few bucks -- Then head of MGM James Aubrey ordered that
the studio's incredible collection of props and costumes be sold off at
auction. That's why Dorothy's ruby slippers, George Pal's Time Machine
as well as thousands of other priceless pieces of Hollywood's past ended
up being scattered to the four winds ... This is also why many Tinsel
Town veterans still spit and curse whenever Aubrey's name is mentioned.
The people who are currently managing the "Disney Auctions" website
run the risk of becoming this generation's James Aubreys. I mean, do
these folks really want to be remembered as the bozos who randomly sold
off important pieces of Disney heritage just Eisner had a few more bucks
to make outside acquisitions with?
Okay, okay. I know. It's expensive to run a multi-national
corporation. And the money that the Walt Disney Company needs to finally
buy the Muppets (There were several reports last month that the Mouse
had allegedly offered the Kirch Group $300 million for Kermit & Co. But
there's been no further word as to whether this deal is
still a go) and/or Pixar (Just last week, Variety suggested that the
Mouse could snatch up Pixar for a mere $1.74 billion. Yeah, right. Like
Eisner would ever really persuade Steve Jobs to sell ... ) has to come
from somewhere.
But do they really have to sell off the Hyperion?
If you follow the previously mentioned link, you'll find a total of
nine very cool pictures of this model -- including a couple that show
the incredible detailing on the miniature gondola (which has a very tiny
little figure of Capt. Brieux inside, standing at the wheel) which
evidently fell off a few years ago.
There is one bit of good news, though, Harry. The bidding on the
Hyperion currently stands at $1500 and -- according to the message
that's currently posted on this "Disney Auction" page -- the reserve on
this item has yet to be met.
Here's hoping that the reserve on this piece never gets met and the
Hyperion can stay safely berthed in Disney's prop warehouse in Burbank
forever... Where it can continue to inspire future generations of
Imagineers and animators who honestly do believe in the "grand
tradition" of movies like "20,000 Leagues" and "Islands."
Otherwise ... Well, it's just scary to think that Disney's heritage
is currently in the hands of accountants. People who didn't think with
their hearts or their heads. Just their wallets.
Jim Hill
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This is a serious issue with film history, and I do think it needs to be addressed. My problem, though, is this: Where do you draw the line?
What film buff wouldn't want to have Indy's whip over their mantle? It's not like there's only one of them. But at the same time, there does need to be a place people can go publicly and view this stuff. And you've got to balance the collector and the public. Neither should be ignored, but you can't let the collector prevent the public from seeing this stuff. At the same time, there's nothing wrong with someone owning, say, stage dressing from Star Wars. It's not an easy line. -
but it sounds like if it didn't end up in the hands of a collector, it would end up as trash eventually. Which is worse?
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The goal, of course, would be to create a museum of sorts where people could go and see this stuff. There are small film museums all over the place. Heck Ackerman's house is practically the horror movie equivalent of the Smithsonian. We just need to make this stuff more public, and hope the studios take it from there.
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My Mom's parents took her to disneyland in the first year, and they bought all the kids original cells from Lady and the Tramp for what we pay for a paper plate of fried food in the food court.
And yes, they're good ones. -
Jeeez, Harry, thought you'd be up on your film trivia a bit more than this ghastly mistake :
Tis true Spielberg paid some ridiculous price for the Rosebud sled used in Citizen Kane, except it wasn't the sled used in the filming of the Orson Welle's film.
Three prop sleds were built, and then burned in the final scene. No Citizen Kane sleds survived filming. The one Spielberg brought at auction was built and painted for promo purposes after the film was in its somewhat limited release. Orson Welles himself told this tale numerous times, he found it equally amusing, and depressing. Spielberg paid a fortune for a fake, prop Rosebud sled, but he wouldn't give Welles even a few thousand dollars option for a script.
And Harry, didn't you actually support yourself for many years flogging film posters and assorted memorablia at conventions? Who actually determines what props, posters etc belong in a museum and which don't? In the annals of film history, I'd be thinking that the only-one-of-its-kind chair from the once hugely controversial and infinitely infamous Texas Chainsaw Massacre would draw more crowds and more interest as a museum display than one of the many prop ships from a fairly turgid old Disney film that even those who grew up watching it have already forgotten.
What else happened on your Cannes trip, big guy? Still going to do up your insider story on big studio junkets? Look forward to reading it soon...
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What a great anecdote. You get to despise Spielberg for wanting to own Rosebud (apparently not learning the lesson of futile material acquisition from the movie itself), then you get to laugh at him for not actually getting an authentic prop. What a loser. And as an added bonus, you get to read how Spielberg wasn't really interested in funding anything for Welles. When will all of you wake up and realize what a fucking scumbag Spielberg is? As if it isn't bad enough that he pays off writers to remove their names from screenplays so he can claim sole writing credit (first CE3K and now A.I.). Welles is an artist for the ages, one who will be remembered long after Spielberg's P.T. Barnum cotton candy is made sweeter by future smoke and mirror men, and if you think Schindler's List and SPR will be mentioned in the same breath as Citizen Kane and Touch of Evil 50 years from now, don't hold your own.
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May 23, 2001 1:46:41 AM CDT
Yes, Planet Hollywood holds great exibitions of relics, like Sch
by isidore
It is kind of sad to think that great props may end up being in someone's private collection, but at the same time, they don't do much good for anyone gathering dust in some warehouse, like the end of Raiders. I say let the people pay way too much for the crap. I wasn't ever going to see it, and some people can get out their urges in the privacy of their own homes, and not in the middle of the street where I can see them.
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Oh, I see..... It's ok for Harry to own things from movies like King Kong and Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but if there's a film prop out there that someone ELSE owns, then its bad and should be in a museum.
Studios are selling props because they have storage issues, the same way that animation cells are sold- they would otherwise rot in boxes in some warehouse somewhere...theres just too much of the stuff..
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When the makers of Gladiator did this last year everybody thought it was cool.....now that its disney everyone starts to piss and moan about it....give me a break....warehouses are only so big you know....but i guess its only cool for "the chosen" few like harry to own a piece of movie history.
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It's not that absolutely no movie prop should get into the hands of collectors - it's just that studios should hold some of this stuff in better respect. The public shouldn't be shut out of film history, and there's a way the studios could work it to their profit. I'd be willing to bet if Disney opened a film museum just of their own stuff - and did it separate from their main parks, so you could judge its success accurately - they'd probably be able to make a profit on it. Heck I'd be willing to bet most of the people here would be willing to plop down a few bucks to see some of this stuff - at least once.
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They can WATCH THE MOVIE.
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...this stuff would be on tour in Disney stores around the country, rather than gathering dust in some warehouse. It'd bring in the customers way faster than this "Project Go" nonsense.
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But it'd also be nice to have a centralized location, as well.
And to First; obviously, having the movies themselves in good quality releases IS the most important thing - which is why DVD is so nice. But there's something to be said for seeing the props or actual sets to movies in real life, rather than through the static lens of a camera.
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Now, I have the creator of Mickey Mouse frozen inside what looks like giant popsicle in one corner of my living room.
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I hate the way Disney is run as much as the next guy, but if someone is sick enough to shell out the going price for some back up stunt double's TRON long johns its good enough for them. The last time they were used was as background costuming in the masquerade party scene in 1993's Bette Midler hag-a-thon "Hocus Pocus". On the other hand, since they sold off the Rocketeer jet pack, is any of Jennifer Connelly's costuming from that pic available ? It's okay if it hasn't been washed, don't go to any trouble ... a-heh
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INCLUDING the Rosebud sled. The movie is the important part! Next you'll be whining about John Belushi's mustard jar from ANIMAL HOUSE.
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turns out it was just a fuckin' prop made for promotional purposes. Apparently all the original Walts were burned after The Great Mouse Detective hit theatres.
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...INCLUDING the Rosebud sled! The movie is the important part. Next you'll be whining about the harsh treatment of John Belushi's mustard jar from ANIMAL HOUSE.
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Wah wah wah, big deal, they are selling a few items from generally crappy movies. I hate Disney more then most and even I think you are a bunch of whinney
little babys. This stuff is a dime a dozen, I am sure they have enough crap from these same movies to fill 20 museums no one would go to. -
And that is in a giant warehouse, gathering dust, along with the computer's tennis shoes, the stuffed corpse of the cat from out of space, and the rest of the bedknobs and broomsticks that Disney forgot to incinerate. Simply by virtue of making movies, companies have a responsibility - no, an obligation - to preserve any and all props and paraphernalia from every one of their cinematic endeavors, and to pay for this preservation and storage space out-of-pocket. To do anything less would be to commit an offense against humanity that draws parallels to the betrayal of Christ!
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May 23, 2001 11:04:04 AM CDT
Disney sells out like the whore it is and a $5 million dollar pa
by uncapie
Someone's got to pay for it. You don't think that's going to come out of Eisner's pocket do you? Please Walt, come back from the grave and haunt these fuckers.
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Harry, c'mon! Yes, all that stuff is pretty cool, but there's a difference between 'cool shit' and 'shit that has historical value'. You know, the world of movies is an interesting and complex one, but in the end, it is but a very small part of human existance. There are tons of more important, more interesting artifacts from events that happened in the REAL WORLD. Let's worry about those, not about some prop. After all, so what if the props are gone, the film that gives the prop significance still exists...
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Ive been there because my Grandparents have a place in Boca Raton, and its going bankrupt, so they were going to sell off the earliest known drawings of mickey mouse and other very incredible animation memorabilia that belongs in a museum, and no one would buy it. So it and all the other stuff will probably be sold off for pennies to the dollar when the museum goes bankrupt.
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Collecting memorabilia: Right or Wrong? It
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I hate to sound argumentative, but i think you're completely wrong here. I think it's great to see these items being made available for people to purchase. Sure, some of the items just suck, but if someone wants it, who the hell cares. If someone wants to pony up cash for an piece of "movie history", and i use that term loosely with Disney, let them. I myself have bid on a few movie props: Tyler Durdens' Jacket from Fight Club for one. These items are all part of the process Harry: to make a movie. You dont see people putting Van Gogh's paintbrushes on display, or Rodan's chizels. And that's all these are. Tools used to develop an end product, a good film. You're placing WAYYYYY too much importance on this. They're just props. And i'm sure that the costumes from Tron arent ever going to be something people look at and go "Wow, what a historical piece of memorobilia" Perspective. Look into it
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hypocrisy rules
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Do you realize that you completly contradict yourself here? On one hand you're against props from famous movies being owned by private collectors and then you admit to owning the fucking armchair from TCM!!! What the fuck? You can't have it both ways, you know.
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Hey Harry, and um other guy...why not start the museum and get investors...someone's gotta take the initiative!
You could call it aint it cool land and have a theme park for us geeks by showing advanced screenings, umm, coaxial land, and displying classic film memorabilia. You have the power! -
Hey SaintX99-A GOOD Hollywood history museum is the way to go, and of course, I've got a great location, a few hundered thousand dollars worth of memorabilia, city approval, years of museum and memorabilia exhibition experience...everything I need...except MONEY! It's about a $3 million dollar project to buy the existing businesses, turn the inside into a museum, turn the outside into a cool facade, advertise, operate for a year until the word gets around, etc. - On the up side, the location is a stone's throw away from a major Southern California theme park. - It's all about the money at this point.
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Evidence that sitting in a warehouse probably isn't the best for most props: http://cgi.ebay.com/disney/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=590756886&r=0&t=0
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Watch the movie that it was in...that's a greater service than any museum or gallery can do for a PROP. Indy's whip sitting on a mantle is just another whip to me...but in his hands, that's a whole other story...
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In 1972, WED (now WDI) built four steam trains for guests to get around the Fort Wilderness Campground at WDW. They had a number of problems - lousy track installation being chief among them - and park management shut down the line in '77.
The trains sat there in a warehouse for 5 years, and then were moved to an open air yard and put under tarps. These tarps lasted for about 6 days in the Florida sun and humidity, and the trains rusted away for almost 20 years.
The reason I know this is that I now have one of those trains. It took my group almost 5 years to convince Disney's legal department that we weren't going to blow the trains up and kill someone. The Company just wanted to cut them up and put them in a landfill. They saw this as nothing but a liability for them; preservation and restoration meant nothing to them.
Why? Because - like so many people have mentioned before - they are running a business. While many of us think of them in sentimental terms (something they actively promote), the reality is they are just like any other major corporation. I wouldn't expect them to preserve every bit of their heritage any more than Clorox would preserve the first bottle of each type of detergent they've ever sold.
They are not in the business of preserving everything, no matter how cool those things may be. The Dalmation animatronics without any ears are a good example. The good news is that people like us can step in and save those things that really something. The four trains are being completely restored because they went to people who can and will do so. I hope the Hyperion ends up in similar hands.
As much as I'd like to see these items on public display, it doesn't really matter if it winds up in someone's gameroom or in a museum, as long as it doesn't end up in a hole in the ground. -
May 23, 2001 6:31:42 PM CDT
Somebody has to pay for the the failure know as Disney's Califor
by alonzo hawk
Yes Paul Pressler [president of Disney Attractions] is nothing more than a zombie following orders in Eisner's Army. And Michael himself should have stepped down from his CEO position long ago, but alas this is not to be. Disney Store's Project GO is the beggining of the end of the Disney Store. Yes Disney is a business but one set apart from any other in the entire world and should not be beholdn't to World Business practices.
As fo the whoring of Disney movie props, I say they belong in a museum where all people can enjoy them[yes there are those of us who still enjoy historic relics in museum type atmospheres] and learn from them.
This is History People. I suppose the decleration of Independence or the Liberty Bell should go to some private collector huh?
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Disney is the one studio that does care about it's past. They've had an archives since God knows when (Walt's mandate). Tell the head archivist Dave Smith that Disney is a whore. Go on, tell him to his face.
You whiny fucks. What museum would want the Hyperion anyway? Oh yeah, all those super successful, academic Motion Picture Museums out there. Which ones are those? Uh...the Hollywood Entertainment Museum? Planet Hollywood? Forry's beat up house? No one goes those places, because only the total movie geek freaks out there (like me, by the way) care. The L.A. Nat. Hist. Museum has the biggest collection of movie memorabilia. Most of it is in storage, because no one wants to see it. Sell it, I say, to people who will display it with pride, not put it in a goddamned warehouse. -
The Pearl Harbor trailer first hit theaters in May 2000. It was attcahed to Gladiator. Get it right man...
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far worse than the auctioning off of the props is the news that Satans' Hand Maiden (AKA: Eisner) is aquiring the Muppets. Ughhh.
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Then why did Disney give away thousands on animation cells in the early nineties at the park? If they care about their archieves then why don't they have a museum at Disneyland celebrating their contributions to film and art? Also, what were the previous rides that were torn down to make new ones? Better yet, what were the original rides Walt Disney created for the park from 1955-1964? The "20,0000 Leagues Under the Sea" "Nautilus" exhibit doesn't exist and it was an incredible attraction. The "Flying Saucers" were abandoned because the air jets clogged up. Do you know about the secret entrance on "Tom Sawyer's Island" that leads into the fort? No? It was sealed up years ago. "Monsanto's House Of the Future?" "Carousel Of Progress?" No? Walt Disney had a great idea that has been corrupted. Disney's idea was to re-release his films every ten years of so that new generations of children could experience the same awe as their parents did. Kids would get excited and their parents would have to take them to Disneyland no matter what. Every kid wanted to live at Disneyland forever. Shades of "Lampwick!" Eisner said, "Fuck it." and dumped everything out on video flooding the market. In the end, he made a fortune, but he destroyed the innocence. Does that end justify the means? Now we have sequels and bad stories to try and make a fast buck. Slave animators that bust their asses off. You should read their contract they HAVE to sign when they begin. Disney has become the devil. They own your soul when you work there. Remember when Katzenberg won his lawsuit against Dinsey? The next day Disneyland's entrance fee went up $2.00. Where are the World War II black and white animated training films Walt Disney made for the army and navy? I know exactly where they are, but fuck it. They're better off lost to those that don't see. To those that will pervert them. The best way to sum it up is: "Who is John Gault?" If you understand that phrase, you understand what I'm talking about.
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Eh, well...que sera, sera.
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I read that Quentin and DeNiro are playing the leads and Tony Scott is directing. Which would be pretty cool.
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Sorry about that. Wrong message board.
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I understand your frustration but perhaps a little PERSPECTIVE is in order.
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If you think you can fill it, please write to Buzz Maverik c/o AICN. Females only.
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...Tommy Kirk having sex with a guy in the Burbank Municipal Pool. Ya can't have the Monkey's Uncle monkeyin' with the same gender or the Shaggy Dog shagging other he-pups.
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...that were found under the sofa in Walt's private apartment above the City Hall, Main Street, Disneyland, Orange County U.S.A.
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Sure, it's senile and has a sexually transmitted disease, but it's part of Disney history, baby!
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For your whinny information, I and Dave Smith along with Marty Sklar were engaged in a conversation at the last Disneyana convention where I flat out told them that not only was Disney whoring itself, but that also Roy had in recent years become a sellout. They dissagreed but respected my opinion. Yes they spokenly dissagreed but I know in their hearts they were agreeing with me. You could see it in their eyes. Oh and YES THESE THINGS DO BELONG IN A F****** MUSEUM you jack@$$.
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You saw it in their eyes. I don't put it past Disney execs to lie, but your reasoning is that you saw it in their eyes? Ha ha. What kind of crap is that. Go back to your Thumper snowglobes, Disneyana boy. Fuck the Hyperion, and fuck movie museums. No one cares, unless they are hardcore fans. If I went to a museum and saw Cheyenne's duster from Once Upon a Time in the West, I'd blast a wad of joy on the display case, but no one else would care. There is no history nor general interest in obscure props. Let people who care buy them and display them with pride. The "That belongs in a museum" quote from THE WORST INDY MOVIE is not only the gayest line reading of all time, it is also an idiotic philosophical statement. Go back to your Figaro and Cleo handpuppet, JACKASS!
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Are you for real, Last Crusade worse than that crap Temple of Doom? Now I know your a fuckin moron cheese wiz boy. Why don't you go back to that shit for brains rock you crawled out from under you asshole. Get over yourself dickwad. Better face thae facts that Movies are a part of our Heritage and somew of us like to be able to actually see these things on display instead of wondering if they were bought by some fanboy with a fetish for not having a life. Shit Harry, you'll let anyone in these days. Go back to your trailer park ya one tooth rifle totin gear washer.
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