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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
We've had contributions here at AICN before from Andrew Raush, a guy who's working on a book where he interviews a number of figures fromt he world of horror cinema. We've run brief bits of his work, like chats with Ian McKellan and Wes Craven, and now he's stepped forward with a piece of an interview from TWO YEARS AGO that sheds some interesting light on a story I ran earlier this week.
In the original piece, I ran an e-mail from "The Woodsman," who claimed Jamie Lee Curtis had already shot her material for the upcoming HALLOWEEN: THE FRANCHISE IS OVER back when she was shooting H2O, the supposed end of the series.
"No, no," protested Halloween Movies.com, stating that Curtis was actually about to begin work. So I ran the retraction and shrugged off the Woodsman's original letter as someone's odd idea of a joke.
Well... maybe not. Check this out.
ANDREW J. RAUSCH: In the defense of the Woodsman stuff about Jamie Lee Curtis, this is what Kevin Williamson told me TWO YEARS AGO... This was for a book which I'm still working on; a collection of interviews with filmmakers. In
case if there's any doubt as to the authenticity of my interview, I am the same guy who interviewed Wes Craven and Ian McKellen for AIN'T IT COOL NEWS in the past.
Now this is not to say that a new script hasn't since been written and Jamie hasn't since agreed to appear in it doing something else. After all, what else does she have going these days?
I'd read that at one point they considered an alternate ending for
Halloween: H20.
Now this is not to say that a new script hasn't since been written and Jamie hasn't since agreed to appear in it doing something else. After all, what else does she have going these days?
I'd read that at one point they considered an alternate ending for
Halloween: H20.
I'd read that at one point they considered an alternate ending for
Halloween: H20.
KEVIN WILLIAMSON: There was a big argument concerning [executive producer] Moustapha Akkad. He owns the character Michael Myers and that's his life's blood. That's the only way he really makes money, so he would not let us kill
Michael Myers. Jamie Lee Curtis said, "I'm not gonna do this if I don't get to kill him. There's no reason for me to come back if I don't get to kill him." So we had a big fight on our hands. We were like, "We've got to kill him. We've got to satisfy the audience." They go, "Well, kill him. Stab him. Let him lie there dead." Because he wanted to bring him back for another movie. Jamie Lee Curtis said she wouldn't do the film unless she got to cut his head off. She said, "I've got to chop his head off." So me and Jamie went to Moustapha and pitched to him how we wanted to kill him. Then we also pitched to him how they could resurrect him and bring him back in Halloween 8. I came up with a way he could survive. I pitched that to him, he liked it, and they actually filmed it for the opening of part 8. And Jamie Lee Curtis agreed to let herself be filmed
and appear in the first minute of Halloween 8.
I know they're shooting on a sanitarium set now, and that's where Laurie Strode dies in the opening of the script for HALLOWEEN: WHY ARE WE STILL DOING THESE? Still, it's interesting that these two stories match. Is there footage out there for an alternative planned opening? If so, it might be fun to slap that on a DVD for those people who still believe there's a pulse in this series. Come on, Akkad... you owe them at least that much, don'tcha think?
"Moriarty" out.
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this is not all bad. The whole internet thing I think is pretty stupid. Of course this movie couldn't be as bad as the Blair Witch Project. But Michael Meyers, like Jason and Freddy are the modern day boogey man. You can't kill the boogey man. For my money I still say the hospital chase sequence with the security monitors is the best part of any Halloween film yet.
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Halloween 2, 4, and 6 are all pretty decent, but 5 is just lame and H20 doesn't feel like a Halloween film.
I would love it if this movie could tie in 4, 5, & 6 into H20 somehow, but attempting to do that and make a decent 1 and a half to 2 hour movie seems like a little much to hope for.
And personally, I think Michael should have survived the decapitation and just had the mask for a head.
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Halloween 8 (When the whole world gets totally fed up with the Michael Myers character and who gives a toss if Jamie Lee Curtis is in the film, apart from the first one. They stink of the bad stuff and now is an absolute joke. Why waste time on this when you could just see Evolution or Shrek again and again). Does anyone out there actually care.
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"Suck Out My Ass" becasue this movie's going to suck so hard like a wind tunnel at NASA.
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Hopefully, Halloween 8 will be worth watching because, of course, I'll be sitting through it, but this is the kind of cluster-fuck that seemed to circulate around "Halloween 666." Well, if "Halloween In Da Hood" doesn't work, at least we'll know where he'll be in "Halloween 9" - Outer Space.
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How many new and creative ways can you have Michael lurking in the bushes? Geez. At least have him join the postal service, or make him have to commute to work everyday in heavy traffic. Then its more believable when he starts his spree.
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As if trying to single-handedly refute this, the Halloween official site has posted up a photo of the "director's chair" for Jamie Lee Curtis on the set of "Halloween 8." http://www.halloweenmovies.com/site/h8news.htm
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The terms Dead Horse and Flogging, anyone??
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is this:
people start dying again in amusing ways and JLC *knows* that good ol' Mike is back in town, in spite of all that's happened. Eventually it turns out that JLC has become so obsessed with MM that she started to have fits where she thinks she IS him, and goes around killing people without ANY memory that she has done so afterwards. The final scene will consist of her fighting with herself either 'till she bleeds to death, or untill she is locked away in a mental institution in wating for ANOTHER sequel!!!!! -
I'm just askin'!
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Now, to begin with, personally I find the idea of Michael switching clothes at the end of 7 to be rather 'interesting'... at least, its a more appealing option than the old 'It wasnt Michael, it was really Laurie Strodes methedone addicted ex' excuse. And I'll be frank here. I'm going to watch this movie if it comes out, and most likely so will all of you as well, be it video or cinema. Remember, there's always the chance that they could pump out a good halloween movie. Personally I liked H20, maybe it was a tad Dawsons Creekish, and a bit of a scream ripoff, but then, its a vicious circle, because Scream self admittedly ripped off Halloween no? In either case, thats not really relevant. What I'm getting at is that as hard as it seems, and as bad as it sounds, give the movie a chance. A point to back up this would be JASON X... the script sounds bloody absurd... Jason in space... yet almost EVERYONE who has seen it has raved about it, saying its a great return to the old 80s slasher variant. You never know, Halloween 8 might pull off the same feat and be interesingly cool... the movie has Bustah Ryhmes in it, I thought he was cool in Shaft, and I can DEFINITELY see him as a major appeal factor of Halloween 8. Maybe the series is near its used by date, some would argue its past it, but hey, if Hollywoods gonna pump them out, sit back and enjoy. And if you don't want to see it? Don't watch it. Noones forcing you. And thats my two cents.
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I don't know who this Noone guy is, but he can't make me watch shit!
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Halloween H20 makes no mention of the AWEFULL Halloweens Parts III, 4, 5, and 6. This was a GOOD thing. Those movies SUCKED. I and II are classic horror films. The four that followed were mindless crap that turned Michael Myers into a cheap Jason Vorhees clone. Then came H20. It was a worthy follow-up. It ignored all but I and II. It provided CLOSURE to the series. It was a well crafted movie. I'd ever go as far as to say that it was better then Halloween II. I think III, 4, 5, and 6 should be basically forgotten and Halloween should be viewed as a trilogy. It opens with I, continues in II, and comes to a conclusion in H20. I won't see part 8. I don't need to. Michael Myers is dead. His head was cut off.
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I like how the "official" site put up on their H8 news a photo of a chair that had Jamie Lee's name on it...If in reality the above report is true, I am in shock that they would just not admit it...
And to be honest, fans of the first 2 films (the only ones that should have been made, of course) thought the return of Rick Rosenthal would be good...Then I went back and watched by old copy of H2...I say to you all now: It's NOT a good thing. That film was the worst possible sequel of a good film ever made. Just a thought.
Farewell for now.
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This movie should never get made. I love horror movies. In particular, I love slasher movies. But I have to draw the line somewhere. The only good halloween movie was the first one (and maybe the 2nd). There is no reason I can see for making this one. I love horror sequels. Especially one's for old school 80's slashers. But this is nuts. Michael Myers has no, I repeat zero, appeal to me, and I love horror films. Okay, I'm babbling. But a part 8 for this series that should've ended with 1, is crazy.
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Make a sequel to Halloween 3: Season of the Witch. Oh man, that was easily the best film of the series! I'm really glad someone decided to make that film - I'm just hoping the DVD comes out soon. I'm sure there are some GREAT deleted scenes. God, that movie was great.
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Masked Homey Masked Homey what up Jack. You left the dilly on point, truly wacked. Time to let the 187 effect ride. Masked Homey, where the hammer and nail man at ? Gone long like Sosa....Stay true wit it Masked Homey,
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Ok. Yes, I will go see this movie. Why? Cause I'm a whore when it comes to scary movies. I went to see Dracula 2000 for god's sake! What a fucking waste of celluloid. Anyway, here's my two cents: There is only one way to save this movie. We're watching the webcam, Mike slaughters everybody but one person, because if horror movies have taught me anything it's that there is one person in every group that is just damn hard to kill. This last person reaches up and rips the mask off. It's Jamie Lee Curtis. She kills the punk, exits the house, and stands there with a knife in her hand as the cops pull up. Full circle. Yeah, I know it's cheesy as fuck, but this 'film' is hopeless anyway, so why not throw a bone to us fans of the original?
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Why can't you guys just let the movie come out before you judge it? At least *SEE* the finished product before slandering it. Think about it, do you really know enough about it to judge it? I'm sorry, but Scream, to me, sounded so stupid when I first heard about it, a more or less serious parody of slasher movies... yet I held off with my opinion, missed it at the cinema, which I regret now, and I actually love the first film, the other two I class as good but I still love the original, all because I didn't pre-judge it. JasonX when I first heard about it, sounded pathetic, and most of you agreed, you said 'DONT MAKE THIS MOVIE!' and now that it's received RAVE reviews and been hailed as the one movie that *could possibly* revive the dying Slasher genre, you all complain that it's been pushed back to next year? But why complain, I mean, with your first opinion on not making it, wouldn't you people be happy with it being so delayed? One last example... Wishmaster... Part 3 is due out soonish, but its not Divoff in it? Initially I COULD scream 'ITS GONNA SUCK! A FEMALE DJINN!' but I won't, I'll wait for it. It might just surprise us. So in essence fanboys, stop your bitching, stop your whinging and pre judging and at least see something before you cast an opinion. Otherwise your opinion doesnt count for shit.
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On ebay right before h20 came out a highly respectable movie prop dealer was selling the head that got chopped off @ the end minus the mask. The original ending was that Jamie lee curtis takes off the mask and sees that its not her brother, just a copycat (like one of the friday the 13th films). ANy halloween movie fan knows anyway that it is not michael myers throughout h20 because after the 2nd movie where he is burned his burns are visible on his hands and eyelids through his mask, yet in the 7th movie they aren't there. Therefore michael myers is still alive, and jamie lee curtis just killed a murderer, not her brother.
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Didn't his eyes get shot out in H2? He was blinded before he was blown up. No-one ever mentions that, right?
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I think I much more prefer to see Michael Meyers vs. Mike Myers. Both of their careers won't die until they themselves die. Both of them were much more entertaining before what they did became schtick. Anyways, who do YOU think would be harder to die? Micheal Meyers has a wacky knack for appearing to die and then coming after you a year later just when you've made real progress in coping with your last encounter. Mike Myers regurgitates that fucking Scottish accent for new characters just when you've made real progress coping with all the losers who say "Get in my belly!" all the fucking time and think it's witty. Just when Michael kills the father from "So I Married an Axe Murderer", all of a sudden there's Fat Bastard. Just when Michael decimates that shithead you get Shreck. Maybe I'm wrong about shreck, but expect to hear him do that accent SOMEwhere in the movie. Maybe you don't see it as cliche and pase as I do, but flogging dead horses that used to be winners is the order of the day and both Mike M(e)yers' should slaughter each other on the screen. After Michael Meyers learns what it's like to continually think you've killed something then have it come back stronger, he might find a career in comedies and replace Adam Sandler. A man can only dream...
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May 19, 2001 9:12:09 AM CDT
Do we need these endless sequels? Do we need to see Michael Meye
by electric_monk
When are we (the fans) going to stop going to these endless sequels that really make no point? The original is by the far the best. Halloween II was just a slasher film, where John Carpenter's original was a horror film that was able to create tension without showing all the blood and gore that came after it. A good director does not need heads exploding and showing knives going into bodies, and blood spurting like a fountain. That does not build tension, it really shows a lack of story telling. You can be spooky, without showing the gore. And you can scare the fuck out of people by not showing the blood. As for film number 8, well I won't see it. Like Halloween:H2O, it has no redeeming value and thusly, why should I spend by money on something that I already know is a big doggie poo? The first was the best, as I have said, and the sequels that have followed (along with every other slasher movie made since 1979) have all sucked big donkey dicks, and I have no doubt this film (and Jason X, and Freddy Vs Jason, and the inevitable next Freddy Kruger film) will suck even bigger donkey dicks. Spend the money wisely. How about creating a good horror film that leaves the scares in the mind -and off camera. In the end, that will make a better film than seeing someone spill the "the black guys's" guts because striaght white boys of America get a rise in their jeans everytime they see blood.
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In answer to your question, maybe this is my defense mechanism. I want to like this movie. No, I want to LOVE this movie. I went to see The Phantom Menace expecting a great film, but was sorely disappointed. I went to see Dungeons & Dragons expecting one of the greatest films ever, and almost cried out of sheer boredom. Now, I'm dissing this movie, I'm revelling in the bad decisions made with it, and maybe, just maybe, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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May 24, 2001 4:09:45 AM CDT
And they can't even be bothered to come up with a half-decent ti
by gilbertson
Even the title's as cold and dead as The Shape ought to be by now. "Halloween: The Homecoming"? Uh, hasn't Michael Myers "Come Home" once or twice before?
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You can pick up a copy of "THE" Halloween8 script at http://www.themyersmuseum.com Just go to the NEWS section and you'll find an article on it - you can also find the "OFFICIAL" H20 script there too, the true plot. I am looking forward to seeing H8 only because I am a diehard HalloweeN fan. Now, personally, I thought Halloween, Halloween2, and H20 were the only good ones, although I hated H20 because it pulled itself away from what was going on in the series with absolutley no explanations and it was a scream rip-off, a cashcow, a teeny-bop. It seems, judging by the cast and plot, that this film will be even more of a teeny-bop. I know that Michael's mask is still a white mask with brown hair, but I know its the most rediculous, most silly looking mask yet, that's right, worse than Halloween4's mask. I wish they would've just kept using the best mask, the kirk mask. I personally liked the idea of the Thorn being behind Mikey's evil, it was clever, and it was realistic in a sense, after all, the Thorn is what really did start Halloween, check it out in the bible, it also left more plot holes for sequels, it made sense, and they couldn't make questions that would never have answers. I am more cozy with just paying attention to the wamrth solid cleaness of Halloween, H2, and H20, and I'd prefer it over the cold, choppy, pointless as hell H4, H5, and H6...But its too late, they've screwed up the plot once, now they are doing it again...They had a perfect Halloween, HalloweenII, than they should've immidiatly done an H20 only not so screamish and they should've stuck with the ole John Carp feel, and added some revelations about Thorn, have Laurie ultimatly chop Mikey's head off, and be done with the damn series, 3 is already too much but it makes a trilogy, 4 is pushing it but still ok and better the the last, a 5th is a fuckin rip-off. Halloween4 is where the rip-offs began. They just shouldn've drug it on like they did. It'd be cool if they just excluded H4-6 as if they were never made, which is what I believe Akkad is doing. Now, let us remember that even Moustapha Akkad admitted that it was NOT Michael Myers in H20. We know the offical plot to this movie, 6 teens are hired by some Mikey obsessed guy to broadcast a live webchat from the myers house on halloween night. The mikey obsessed guy has a fake killer dressed as mikey as this is on world wide television and internet, everyones watching, sure enough, the real shape arrives, or, atleast another shape that really kills. Everyone watching is not sure if this is real or not. Well, everyone except for the guy who hired them. This "con" man, in a word, who hired these teens is actually someone mysterious who has encountered Mikey, I'm not sure who this mysterious figure is but it could be Wynn, someone working for him, Tommy, or someone working for Laurie Strode, or, someone else. So, shit happens, a few ego crazed male teens balls are slashed off, few big breasted bitchy female teens' throats are slashed, blah,blah,blah, a few secrets about mikey and his house are revealed, then in the end it seems that the killer of Halloween8 was, all along, Laurie Strode. You see, Laurie is now, of course, mentally disturbed. And as her poor Brother Mikey is being commercialized and sold like a product, something evil snaps, breaks, and fills her blood with revenge. At the end of the movie is where we see Jaime Lee Curtise's cameo is, just as she is unmasked and killed. THEN, Halloween9 brings the real Mikey back, this time, to kill: John, Steven, Kara, Danny, and who ever else is alive of the Myers relations family - of course, that movie will only be made if H8 doesnt bomb, which it will. Let's face it, this movie only took 40 days to make, 40 days!!! That's like, a month a a half, not even near 2. Pathetic, unless its going to be a classic Halloween like the first, low budget and good, but thats very doubtfull. This is a high budget film, hollywood, its following a teenybop h20 rip off, the plot and cast make it stink worse, and have you seen the cheezy looking set? Check this out: http://www.halloweenmovies.com/site/h8pics05.htm
What I believe they are doing is excluding H4-6 as if they werent even made, either that or they are going to retry making a different H7. Also notice the realitytv show theme this movie is going to have. Thank god its more like a freakylinks version, but its inspired by bs like survivor and temp island. This series has come a vert tiring long way, retries, attempts, all for money, they ripped off the originals. How to tell if it isnt Mikey Myers in H8: Check for burn marks, scars, and if you can, the thorn symbol, if nothings there, its not him Also, the key element, if his eyes are made a big deal like they were in H20 than its not him. That was one of the main things in H20 akkad states that reveal that it is not michael in h20, after all, mikeys eyes were shot out in H2...The scene where we see his eyes in H5 was told to be a mistake, then again, what if it wasnt mikey in any of em except h and h2???(Just a ques, not a sugg.) Well, I have much more to say, about approximatly 6 times this much, no, literally. Email me if you have questions. PunkRawkRadical@hotmail.com -
Michael Myers is so bleeding sexy, even though his new mask is pretty dumb- kind of like a hurtful mime's. I always thought that the guy just really needed to get laid. Oh, yeah. That's what got me though middle school, no lie.
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