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MORIARTY Presents The Sequel Rumor Round-Up!! W/ BATMAN, BACK TO THE FUTURE, and HALLOWEEN 8!!

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

Harry's been gone ten minutes and suddenly the incoming e-mail goes crazy with rumors of all sorts of sequel madness. Let's do a real quick rundown of a few of the big ones, shall we?


Evidently, sites like Ananova and Dark Horizons have picked up the story that teen magazine J-14 (which I've never heard of) is reporting that Freddie Prinze, Jr. is Darren Aranofsky's first choice to play Batman.

How shall I put this?

B U L L S H I T !

Yeah, that should do it.

This is hogwash. Nonsense. Stop sending it to me and relax. It ain't gonna happen. Let's see what Warner does when Freddie kills their SCOOBY-DOO family franchise dead. Let's see how eager they are to slap a Batsuit on him. Sounds to me like Prinze's publicity team is working overtime again to remind people how much Freddy likes superheroes. Hey, I like women. Doesn't mean I'm ever going to be one, Freddy. Get the picture? I seriously wouldn't give this one another thought, no matter how many teen magazines insist it's true.


Credit this one to the Herald-Sun in Australia, according to a half-dozen readers this morning. They're reporting that the sequel is looking for a replacement for Michael J. Fox. I know a script was developed for a made-for-television follow-up to the Robert Zemeckis/Bob Gale trilogy, BACK TO THE BEGINNING, but I'm betting this goes the way of INDY 4. They'll talk about it. They'll pour money into it. And they'll never, ever, ever make the damn thing. From time to time, Universal just wants to remind people they own the franchise. Any other serious discussion of this one still falls under "wishful thinking."


Sites like keep mentioning recent reports from someone who's seen a treatment for the film.

Well, which one?

The one with human Sentinels?

The one David Hayter's writing from?

The one someone else is writing from?

There's a number of X-MEN scripts in development right now, and although they share story elements, they are different films, and there's no telling which way Bryan Singer is going to swing once all these drafts are turned in.

One thing I know for sure: Fox needs to make sure Tom De Santo is aboard this film as a producer immediately. He and Singer are gearing up on their BATTLESTAR GALACTICA revival for television, and De Santo's going to be a busy man. He was the heart and soul of the first X-MEN film, though, and without him attached to the new one, there's all sorts of potential for disaster. Don't let him get too busy, Fox. You'll be sorry if you do.


It's got another title! It's HALLOWEEN 8: THE HOMECOMING! Jamie Lee's officially signed! I read the script and it stinks! Why is everyone talking about this low-grade cinematic dogfood like it's a major project? It's Rick Rosenthal, returning to the franchise like a dog to its vomit. Busta Rhymes is in it. I'll let you chew on that one for a while. Believe me... once it sinks in, you'll be back here crying.


"MEXICO," everybody. Not "AMERICA." Sergio Leone already made ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA. If the other half of the title that Dimension and Columbia just announced is right, it's interesting. I guess the whole DESPERADO 2 thing is a way of drawing a direct line for the casual audience, the ones who didn't hear this news here on AICN weeks ago and who don't know what this is. I hope Robert pulls off the film it sounds like he's trying to make. Casting Mickey Rourke is a real provocative step, that's for sure.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • May 10, 2001, 8:14 a.m. CST

    replace Marty, fuck you!

    by Mel Garga

    That news must make Fox shake a fist!

  • May 10, 2001, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Freddie woo woo

    by straxboy

    Like a lookie likie clone of Keanu cica Bill & Ted without the charm or penis...Ho Ho Ho I am reminded by this of the immortal words uttered allegedly by Sam Raimi that Freddie P 'wouldnt be allowed to SEE Spiderman, let alone appear in it, if I had my way!' Thats funny. Kinda got a soft spot for the H8 news. Yeah they had diminishing quality and returns but, oh I dunno, they're just a like finding your soiled blanket from when you were a kid - dirty rag of it's former self but with that...smell thats kinda reassuring - it'd just be nice to see a great scope SUPER35 horror movie like they used to make in the theatre again, like Rosenthal claims he wants to do - and H2 wasn't so bad y'know. Compared with most franchises, I'd say Halloween has got off lightly - no, pandering to the latest fad gimmicks for this puppy (although I hope the internet story here isn't too geeky and self referential 'Hey, gang, this is just like one of those John Raimi Hallows Eve flicks, huh?' Hehe Heh DOH!

  • May 10, 2001, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by Mel Garga

    The first one was a nice intro for folks who haven't read the comic since 4th grade. But now it's time to get down to business and lay down some hard core action...and although the Batman/Prinze rumor is very obviously meant to piss people off for no reason, I still have to take a second to think what it would would really be like if that actually happened. When are we going to phase this kid out? That rumor is almost as funny as the Bill Murray as Batman rumor I heard when the original Burton version was in production...and I still say that even talking about replacing Smarty McFlypaper is an insult.

  • May 10, 2001, 8:57 a.m. CST


    by Wickedwolverine

    If there were a Back to the future 4, i'd like someone like Sarah Mechelle Geller to play Marty's daughter who has to stop the death of her dad and save the space time continum from Biff Tannens psychotic son.

  • May 10, 2001, 9:03 a.m. CST

    I was always compelled by the "Back to the Beginning" concept.

    by Sgt. Bilko

    As it stands, BTTF is a classic, perfect trilogy that ended on the right note. Naturally we'd like to see the further adventures of our heroes, but we know that it won't and shouldn't happen. HOWEVER, the TV-special prequel is a fascinating idea. You really only need to bring Christopher Lloyd back, maybe Fox for a narration, which should be no problem. There are plenty of young kids that could play a 13 or 14 year old Marty. I think it would be a nice addition to the series, without trying to be part of it. It wouldn't ruin the continuity, and it could be done on a modest budget. Doesn't seem like it would ever happen, but I don't see why anyone would be opposed to it.

  • May 10, 2001, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Freddie Prinze Jr as Batman?

    by crazybastard

    That would suck worse than a hole in a spaceshuttle

  • May 10, 2001, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Halloween: Homecoming

    by thehowler

    That's the rumored title. No "8" and no "the". Plain and simple. As far as knowing that it's going to suck just because you read an EARLY draft of the script, guess what. They're rewriting it! A lot of changes are being made according to the official site, so it might not turn out that bad. Then again, it might suck worse than Part 3, if that's even possible. My point is, don't judge a movie before seeing the final product up on the screen. Once the film is out, then rip it to shreds if you must. Peace!

  • May 10, 2001, 9:35 a.m. CST

    First time I've laughed out loud at one of these in a while

    by Mister_Pink

    Iamgod. O my god. Hilarious! Can you do something about Travolta, too? P.S. I rented WonderBoys from Blockbuster, and it said the content had be edited. Anybody know what they did? Fascists.

  • May 10, 2001, 9:49 a.m. CST

    TRL Batman?

    by RAVAGE

    Freddy as Batman, Carson Daily as "The Sugar Plum Fairy" with N-SYNC as his gang. They team up with Fred Durst as "The Light Loafer" to take over Gothams airwaves with the sounds of talentless music to bleed peoples brains. Batman must beat them in a dance-off to bring Gothem back. Shit this could be real life.DEATH TO BUBBLE GUM POP, DEATH TO RAP/METAL, DEATH TO NO TALENT ACTORS, DEATH TO BROWN NOSE V-JAYS,AND BRING ON WEEZER!

  • May 10, 2001, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Finally, X-Men sequel talk

    by SilentBob X

    Let's hope they use the Sentinels. Maybe a 'Days of Future Past' story. From what I've heard, Bryan Singer is hard at work on the script and something should be finished by Sept. If we're lucky, we might be seeing the sequel by late summer next year at the earliest. The pressure's on Singer to make a more action oriented film this time around, too. The Sentinels and the above mentioned story would fit that bill easily. Don't believe me? Just ask any comic book fan and they'll tell you that combination has enough action and drama to satisfy the needs of not only comic book fans, but moviegoers who crave something a little bit different in their action movie. As far as Batman, thank goodness the whole Prinze Jr thing is complete bullshit. His dorky smirk beneath Batman's cowl? Now that is an insult to anyone who's ever loved the Caped Crusader. This guy should be waiting tables, not poisoning my multiplexes with his saccharine smile and sub-standard acting. Let's hope that Arnofsky can find someone better than that to portay Batman. Snoogans.

  • May 10, 2001, 11:09 a.m. CST

    how 'bout David Boreanaz as young Batman?

    by Eric Draven

    i think mabey David Boreanaz from Angel would be a good batman...'course, david is, like, i dont know... oh shit, wait...WES BENTLY AS YOUNG BATMAN...JACKPOT, BABY. I think that would kick ass, kids...what do u think? And Affleck for Superman. Boo-ya, Grandma....Boo-ya

  • May 10, 2001, 11:17 a.m. CST

    How about nobody as Batman?

    by Wee Willie

    Let this franchise die.

  • May 10, 2001, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Don't you mean EL MARIACHI 3 ???

    by Monkey_King

    They(meaning whoever came up with that title) need to rethink the subtitle and just go with ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO(Kind of homage to the title of the Wong Fei Hung series, yet with Mariachi's and their gun-filled guitar cases. I love it!)

  • May 10, 2001, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Where the FUCK are the Back to the Future DVDs?

    by Squashua

    I mean, jeesus FUCKING christ, ENOUGH already. Stop dicking around with another fucking sequel that isn't going to happen and GET THE FUCKING MOVIE ON DVD ALREADY! Assholes.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Why I Like Freddie Prinze Jr. and Other Things To Piss You Off.

    by Buzz Maverik

    There's a very cool talkbacker who calls himself Freddie Prinze Jr. Now, like most everything else on these talkbacks, it's probably bullshit, the guy probably isn't Freddy Prinze Jr., but...what if he was? How cool would that be, a guy coming to a site that knocks him regularly and having a few laughs? I like to think it is Freddy (and if you know different don't fucking tell me because I won't believe you anyway) and that makes Freddy a lot cooler than almost anybody. More blasphemy... Aronofsky's BATMAN already sounds like crap. First, we had the story of how it was going to be 70s gritty, which is pretty fucking stupid for a movie about a guy in a batsuit. Then, the George Clooney rumor, which is probably false, but Clooney was in a bad BAT-movie and didn't get the character at all, so that leaves a bad taste in my pipe. I'd like to really piss you guys off and have Warner Brothers fire Aronofsky and hire Robert Rodriguez and he could make YEAR ONE with Josh Harnett as Batman and Antonio Banderas as Ras A Ghul and Salma Hayek as Catwoman. I could get behind that BATMAN movie...Getting behind ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO is another matter. Robert Rodriguez might be a greater filmmaker than even Harry thinks as long as he's true to himself. As much as I liked EL MARIACHI and SPY KIDS, I disliked DESPERADO and THE FACULTY. I sorta liked THE MISBEHAVERS and the non-vampire part of FROM DUSK 'TIL DAWN. RR should forget that he ever saw a Hong Kong movie and should not try for Tarantinoesque irony because he's not very good at it. When he's pure-Rodriguez, tho, there's nobody better....And this shouldn't piss anybody but the suits who won't read it anyway: no BACK TO THE FUTURE or HALLOWEEN sequels. Make a new teen, time travel comedy and a new slasher movie, but send those executives behind these movies back to being Joel Silver's assistants (that'll learn 'em) and send the filmmakers and writers involved back to being videostore clerks and relatives of the aforementioned executives-turned-assistants.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by Phil Atio

    I love this! Whenever any article has something to do with Freddie Prinze, Jr. the talkback is fucking hilarious! Here's my little contribution. Freddie Prinze committed suicide-because his son was Freddie Prinze Jr. And Blockbuster is indeed an evil organization.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Casting stuff

    by Homer Jay

    I know i'm only saying this because they've worked together, but I could definitely see Aronofsky plugging Jared Leto in as young Batman. I would personally prefer an unknown; someone with the maniacal intensity of Keaton and the charm of Clooney. I know its the popular choice, but I'd go with Wes Bentley or maybe even Heath Ledger.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:07 p.m. CST


    by cifra2

    Back To The Future: burnt (a remake is a good alternative). Indy: nearly burnt. Halloween: definetily burnt (although H20 it comes second as the best after the Carpenter's). Friday the 13th: do I really have to say it? Freddy Krueger: burnt and buried. Superman: remake. Batman: new beginning. X-Men: Long live! Desperado: final film. My point of view: a franchise gets burnt when the people who did the first are not really interested in it. The fact Jamie Lee came back to Halloween is just she needed the money... don't you ever doubt about it.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:09 p.m. CST

    But I thought ...

    by spyridon

    ... Moriarty was a girl? Ah, that evil professor, playing mind games with us again!

  • May 10, 2001, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Oh, Yeah, Forgot About The X-MEN...

    by Buzz Maverik

    Basically, the producers have to fire Hayter's ass (since he wrote even less of what you saw on screen than you did yourself) and whomever else they've hired to write the sumbitch and hire me, Buzz Ignacious Maverik. I'll do a script that will please Singer, fans of the movie, the mainstream audience and the comic fans. Basically, true to the concept of the X-MEN in both comic and film without being slavish to either one. Get me some money, some cigars from a certain Communist island nation in this hemisphere, a new Suburban from a certain auto manufacturer and certain custom made British shotgun and we'll talk.

  • May 10, 2001, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Batman, Blockbuster

    by Mister_Pink

    Thanks for the info on Wonderboys. I feel a little bad for using this as evidence that Blcokbuster is the evil empire (with all the other evidence, choosing this was the easy way out). Long live Netflix! Here's a batman idea for you: I could play him. That's right, Mr. Buschemi myself! I like to hang out here and read when people make fun of my bug eyes. I'm a good actor and all, too. But I'll only do Batman if Salma is catwoman, and there's a scene where the catsuit gets ripped, and Batman proves he can get a licking and keep on ticking.

  • May 10, 2001, 1:01 p.m. CST

    forgive me for the typo

    by Mister_Pink

    I said a few hail marys to make up for it. I spelled by own name, and Blockbuster wrong. It's really hard to get contacts in XXXL, so I have a hard time seeing and therefore make some typos every now and then. P.S. Freddie Prinze Jr would make a great sparring partner in the next Rocky sequel. He would also make a nice target in the next Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, or Steven Segal movie. I'd rent that.

  • May 10, 2001, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I don't want to incur the wrath here, but

    by Mister_Pink

    when you combine you+are, you have to use an ', like this: you're. Even if you're god. Please don't punish me by making the cuts on my face get infected.

  • May 10, 2001, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Good calls

    by Walken

    I've never hear Guy Pearce, Josh Harnett or Heath Ledger suggested as Batman...all excellent suggestions. I would probably go with Pearce (although if you bulked him up he would make a pretty mean Superman).

  • May 10, 2001, 1:21 p.m. CST

    I'm back!!!

    by cifra2

    Stop the sequels!!! (well, except X Men series). Do the "Lobo" movie now!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 10, 2001, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by MrBadd

    1)Batman. Could someone please tell me Freddie keeps getting cast in films? Not one of his films have been critical and box office hits. NOT ONE. I have heard that Clooney, who is 40 this month, is who Aronofsky wants. Excuse me, but a 40 year old man playing a 25 year old? Uh-uh. Greg Rucka got it right when he suggested David Boreanaz a couple months back. 2)Halloween. I do not understand why they keep doing this. First Jason. Now Michael. It was my understanding Jamie Lee did Halloween:H20 with the intent of ENDING the franchise. And it was done, by way of Michael's head being liberated from the rest of his body. Now they expect us to believe he actually just switched clothes with a security guard or some such and so he is still alive? Can you say B U L L S H I T ? And so word comes out Jamie Lee has signed up for this turkey. Talk about beating dead and decomposed horses.

  • May 10, 2001, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Go the way of Indy 4?

    by wato

    I'm not on the ball here. Is Indy 4 really dead or was that just a pot shot as if to say "Hurry up and make it"? Thanks

  • May 10, 2001, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Halloween Timeline???

    by dyno-dave

    OK. Maybe I am ignorant to some common knowkedge, but can anyone tell me how Halloween H2O tied into the Halloween Series. I liked the movies. They weren't the best movies ever made, but as far as horror movies go, they sure weren't the worst. Anyways, Halloween 1 and 2 of course I get that they took place on the same night. I get that 3 had nothing to do with anything Michael Meyers. Then 4 through 6 have some continuity with Jamie Lee's character's daughter with the story taking some weird twists in Halloween 6. What I don't get is how Halloween H2O fit in with episodes 4-6. Or was it not supposed to? They seems kind of stupid if it wasn't. Can anyone in movie land clear this up? Will the new Halloween 8 tie into 4-6? I am kind of curious as to where that story line was going to go.

  • May 10, 2001, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Here we go . . .

    by thephantomcat

    I like Freddy Prinze, Jr. He's not as bad as you people think. Remember a crappy movie called 'I Still Know What You Did Last Summer'? Well, thanks to Freddy the would be (crappy) film trilogy won't happen. The fact that he recognized the movies as dead shows that he's alright. And I liked the Halloween sequels (Season of the Witch was a good idea that didn't quite happen). Yes, they aren't scary, but it's fun. Summer movies, scarey movies, and no-brain comedies are a staple of cinema. Let people make these movies as much as possible. I hate it that I have to rerent old movies to get that cheesey-pornographic-horror movie thrill. I just wish they would put more nudity. My friends love that stuff. You can laugh at the dumb parts, get scared when all the BOO stuff happens, and sit around with friends watching it home or at an empty theatre. It's fun and, I'm looking forward to the Scooby Doo movie AND to Freddy Prince, Jr.'s job in that movie. Along with SMG. Bring on Halloween 9,10, and 11. I'll be there.

  • May 10, 2001, 4:11 p.m. CST

    The first X-Men movie had heart and soul?

    by superhero

    Really? Where was it? Wrapped up in the cheesy effects, lame one liners, and tepic climax sequence? Yeah, that's it! That's where they were! Can you feel the sarcasm comin' offa my talkback?

  • May 10, 2001, 4:46 p.m. CST

    BTTF 4

    by BloodDonorMan

    Hey, who typed that BTTF 2 and 3 sucked?! They were great! I recently showed my 5 year old daughter BloodDonorGirl the BTTF movies and she loves them as much as I do. It would be great to take her to the theaters to see a good new BTTF movie. Unfortunately, the chances of this happening are about as much as travelling through time in a DeLorean.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Is this sequel news, or an '80s tribute?

    by Hardyboy

    What IS this? First an unwanted Crocodile Dundee sequel shows up in the theaters; then there's news that there will be a sequel to The Goonies; and now there are apparently going to be sequels to Back to the Future, Batman, and Halloween. I guess it makes sense: there's a Bush in the White House again, and the kids are rocking to music that was new--and crappy--when I was in high school, so I guess movies should be retro-'80s as well.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:10 p.m. CST

    My theory on Freddie Prinze, Jr.

    by DearGodMySpleen

    Why do people hate him so? Is it the Martin Lawrence Syndrome, where an actor proves time and time again that he's untalented and unpleasant to watch, yet people still continue to give him acting jobs? Maybe it's the fact that he's involved with "Scooby-Doo", one of the stupidest things western civilzation has ever produced (admit it, everyone...just because we grew up with this shit doesn't mean it's any good). Personally, he irks me because he's like a black hole on the screen, a colossal waste of celluloid (much like my burning hatred for anyone that's appeared on MTV's "Remote Control" except for Kari Wurher). Also because he pumps the lovely Sarah Michelle Gellar full of his evil seed on a regular basis, but that's because I'm a lonely, covetous man who lusts after her.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:20 p.m. CST

    I LOVE sequels

    by SethShandor

    Granted, most suck, but I love a lot of them and am not afraid to admit it. Mummy 2, Ghostbusters 2, Back to the Future 2 & 3, Indiana Jones 2 & 3, Alien 2, the first Batman and Superman sequels, Gremlins 2, Austin Powers 2, Bill and Ted 2, Fright Night 2, Die Hard 2 & 3, Leathal Weapon 2,3, and even 4, Terminator 2, Predator 2, Toy Story 2, Scream 2 & 3, Wayne's World 2, Tremors 2, Some of the Bonds, Some of the Star Treks, the Star Wars... on and on and on. And I'm revved for Jurassic 3 (although 2 sucked) and Rush Hour 2. My bigest complaint is when they just call them "2". I did, but for the sake of brevity. But WHY call Jurassic 3 for example "3"?!?!?! Would mind seeing another BTTF, or Batman. Even if they suck, so what? I'll just never watch them again. As for Freddie Prinze, Jr. I hate him with a passion too (his work anyway, I could proabably stand him as a human being) but the reason he gets hired is because some people THINK he's a star, or will be. As mentioned, none of his films have been that big of a commercial or critical success. But then neither were Clooney's first flicks (Dusk till Dawn, One Fine Day, The Peacemaker!!!)but people thought he was a star in the making. Sadly, execs have this in their heads about FPjr too, bad thinking for which their wallets will be drained.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:32 p.m. CST

    The last think I'll say about Blockbuster

    by Mister_Pink

    I like their selection of mainstream movies, but what I hate about a company like Blockbuster is that they don't have to care about a single customer. They can fuck me, and if I decide not to spend any more money there, they won't notice. You don't get that at a Mom and Pop store. I prefer to support local stores, but BB is just so convenient. I feel like Rob Downey Jr trying to stay clean. But I love the screaming kids and the huge crowds. That's what really keeps me coming back.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Batman suggestion

    by BatManBeyond

    Why can't american film makers do something fresh and find actors who can particular fit the role of a fictional character, Bruce Wayne..think about it.. is not a freaken teeny bopper like Freddy Prinze Jr, he's the son of murdered parents at a tender young aged, scarred for life, and basically obsessed with taking down evil wherever it may lay. The only smart suggestion I've heard was David Borendez from Angel, I think if he went through BatMan bootcamp, he could have what it takes. they made a mistake with George Clooney,don't do it again. For BatMan beyond, I suggest they use "Will Friedle" the voice actor for Terry McGuiness as the real Terry McGuiness/BatMan.. Terry is a normal 17 old, he's not a buff crime fighter like Bruce Wayne, so he doesn't need to look hardcore.. it's all in the suit remember? Old age Bruce Wayne, should be someone totally never heard of... That's all I have to say for now kiddies... ciao time.

  • May 10, 2001, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Talk Back to the Future

    by SexieEwok

  • May 10, 2001, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Talk Back to the Future Part IV

    by SexieEwok

    They have to stress the intelligence the original movies had in order for them to work. The can't just run with the sitcom angle of it (which is what they would be doing with a "Back to the Beginning"). They need to increase the danger level beyond just the Tannens. Doc and MArty did all this fucking around with the space time continuum, but things worked out fine in the end...or had they? They could use a "Crisis on Infinite Earths" scenario. It should be set sometime farther into the future of Hill Valley. New characters should be introduced. The problems sequels get into is that they get their hands tied into trying to lengthen the lives of characters that were interesting at first, but have gotten old. The original sequels reused most of the same characters but it represented them in fresh and creative new situations. BUt I really don't think we need to see another incarnation of Lea Thompson or Biff, we need fresh cahracters. Yet one of the predominant themes int he films was how society changed over generations, which is something anyone with a few years behind them can relate to. So thats why they need to keep the same town. They have a chance to really predict the future here, as Part II did to some extent. The great thing about the future predicted in that film was that it wasn't political, it just dealt with fashions and everyday life. The adventures of Marty and Doc could be the towns urban legends. Come on Bob Gale!!!!

  • May 10, 2001, 6:43 p.m. CST

    On Clooney being a star

    by stilla

    Ok, so he sucked in Batman & Robin, but it wasnt like the rest of the movie didnt. I

  • May 10, 2001, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Freddy Prinze Jr: Never--but NEVER--underestimate Warner's abil

    by Frank Rizzo

  • May 10, 2001, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, I like Clooney...

    by SethShandor

    (forgiving Batman and Robin as well, which was not HIS fault) And I know his later films have been critical (Three Kings, O Brother, Out of sight) and commercial successes (Perfect Storm.) But somebody asked why Freddie keeps getting cast in films when not one of his films have been critical and box office hits. Well I just pointing out the same could have been said for many actors, including George early on. Although George has ACTUAL talent and ACTUAL star power (two diff things). Freddie has, like many actors, people out there shilling for them left and right about how great they are and "get them now while you can" and Hollywood people fall for that shit all the time. Eventually they'll wise up and Freddie will end up doing special guest appearances on Charles in Charge 2015 as Willy Aimes son. I mean, think of all the actors and actresses that you saw hyped everywhere and never went on to anything. Hard to remember them actually, just like Fred will be. I recall Maria Bello. Seemed like for a while there every time I read a magazine or watched TV they went on about how she's gonna be the next huge actress. Then, nothing. Coyote ugly came out and they tried to drum up her great coming career yet again, to but by then the steam was gone, they were too busy promoting Piper Pierbo!~ next HUGE actress from blockbusters Rocky and Bullwinkle and Coyote Ugly. And we all know how much they sucked. And she's disappeared too.. Am I making any sense? I feel I'm babbling as usual... not that that'd be a first for a talk back...

  • May 10, 2001, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Hey Buzz

    by JonQuixote

    Really down on the Aronofsky Year One? Think Grim and Gritty Bats is a bad idea? That surprises me...I thought the urban feel rumor was a good one; personally, I would love to see a Miller-esque Batman on the screen. And yeah, Clooney in B&R wasn't great, but I wouldn't blame him for 'not getting the character', he probably delivered what Shumacher wanted to a 'T'...lay blame where blame is due! I don't think Clooney is the ideal Bats, but that was Joel S's steaming pile of poo, and there isn't an actor alive that could have saved that movie. But if grim and gritty is inappropriate for a man in tights, then isn't the alternative the Shumacher-type approach (ok, without the homoeroticism)?

  • May 10, 2001, 8:13 p.m. CST

    The two reasons I gave up on the Blockbuster around the corner

    by Hardyboy

    1) The clientele. I was looking through the foreign movie section at Blockbuster, and a guy said to his wife IN PERFECT SERIOUSNESS, "Hey, I wonder if they have that movie they're always talking about on Seinfeld--'Rochelle, Rochelle.' Maybe I should ask." 2) I went there to rent Midnight Cowboy. . .and THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT! It's worth it for me to drive two miles to the huge, locally-owned place that carries everything from silent movies to the latest hits. Go local, my friends!

  • May 10, 2001, 8:24 p.m. CST

    I will scalp Freddie Prinze Jr. and then dip his head in salt if

    by Jimmy DeNiro

    WHY THE F*CK WOULD ANONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND EVEN CONSIDER CASTING THAT TALENTLESS PIECE OF SHIT. I'M OFFENDED JUST HEARING HIS NAME MENTIONED IN THE SAME SENTENCE. Cast anyone: Wes Bentley, Heath Ledger, Haley Joel Osment! (okay maybe not but that 12 year old has more talent that that worthless pice of fuck FPJ will ever ever dream of having). I know it won't happen but I'm getting pissed of just hearing his name.....

  • May 10, 2001, 8:39 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna spread my man seed and create a race of evil robots to

    by Jimmy DeNiro

  • May 10, 2001, 9:02 p.m. CST

    SethShandor, you've stumbled onto something huge...

    by DearGodMySpleen

    I've also noticed the media conspiracy to force actors and actresses on us. It's always the same with the actresses. They'll usually have a small but well-liked appearance in some TV show or movie, then all the sudden their careers start to grow, inexplicably, like a malignant tumor. Then we get flooded: massive appearances on the covers of women's magazines: Cosmo, Ladies' Home Journal, Glamour, etc. That way we see their airbrushed and heavily made up faces every time we go grocery shopping or to Target and Wal Mart. Then comes their "breakout" movie role, which usually bombs. Think Amanda Peet in "Saving Silverman" or Maria Bello in "Payback". The next step is to get their own TV show, which will fail after six episodes, resulting in the actresses eventual downslide into obesity and soft-core erotic thrillers, the last gasp of an actress trying to get some attention after a fall from grace . I think it's probably the same for actors, but it's "Entertainment Weekly" and "Premiere" and an eventual DUI and drug rehab.

  • May 10, 2001, 9:52 p.m. CST

    New Batman: Christian Bale

    by Templeton Peck

    Surely one man has the look and the gravity required to pull off Batman, watch American psycho when he's serious, not the manic bits. Genuine Batman-esque menace people. Think about it

  • May 10, 2001, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I am SO with the Christian Bale Batman Idea! Kick ass!

    by superhero

    Good...No, GREAT friggin' call! He's got the intensity, the looks, and the physicality for the role. It's tailor made for him! ARE YOU LISTENING WARNER BROTHERS!? No, of course you're not...

  • May 10, 2001, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Okay so maybe Michael J Fox isn't up for another Back To The Fut

    by JackBurton

    Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Try (and kill) the fat webmaster...

  • May 11, 2001, 12:09 a.m. CST

    I want Clooney's chin hanging over cliff

    by hawauer29a

    that would be a great Batman. The only Batmanish about the guy is the length of this face, other than that he looks like a stone trying to come to life. But I guess his manager thought he's got better career doing Batman over and over again. He's always gonna be George Clooney... he'll NEVER be Tom Cruise or Harrison Ford, a few more years and he's forgotten, but of course he needs to be remember for a role, that would be Batman. He needs it, you see.

  • May 11, 2001, 12:09 a.m. CST

    I want Clooney's chin hanging over cliff

    by hawauer29a

    that would be a great Batman. The only Batmanish about the guy is the length of this face, other than that he looks like a stone trying to come to life. But I guess his manager thought he's got better career doing Batman over and over again. He's always gonna be George Clooney... he'll NEVER be Tom Cruise or Harrison Ford, a few more years and he's forgotten, but of course he needs to be remember for a role, that would be Batman. He needs it, you see.

  • May 11, 2001, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Oh! Christian Bale!

    by mdi6a

    now we're talking Batman. I always hated the whole Batman franchise, but with Christian Bale, they'll probably give it new life. Bale has always been a good, if not great actor, and just right for the part!... he's an overlooked, underrated gem who deserves more recognition than recycled tv stars like... well, George Clooney.

  • May 11, 2001, 12:35 a.m. CST

    re: Clooney being a star

    by revam

    Clooney's probably in the same league as what Richard Gere was in the early 90s, an overhyped actor with a good publicist, trying to gain crediblity with movies he can not really call his own, if he does, most of the time they flop. Ultimately, time has passed for Richard Gere and he became in Hollywood history as "that guy in Pretty Woman". The rest of the world has already declared George Clooney a boxoffice poison before The Perfect Storm. Obviously he gained a lot from the commercial success of that movie, but it in no way succeeded because of him, pretty sure even he knows that. He still needs to prove himself, which is what O Brother Where Art Thou tried to do. Unfortunately, it flopped. (now we all know the story of how Touchstone execs panicked when the movie opened and tanked)...well, luckily, good old publicity machine came to the rescue and called it "a great performance"... haha, don't give me that shit. Now they run Batman quickly out of the can before things get cold for him again. Poor George.

  • May 11, 2001, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Batman and other assorted shit......

    by Mr Chuff

    I love the way someone mentions Bats and the whole talkback turns into a wishlist...... Right, here's mine. I thought about Guy Pearce maikng a cool Bats when I saw him in L.A. Confidential and after seeing Memento I was sure he could pull it off no probalem. The thing people seem to forget is that the actor has to be Batman AND Bruce Wayne who is a smooth motherfucker. Just happens that he's twisted as fuck too. And that is what's missing from all the batman flicks so far. Don't get me wrong....I love the first 2 but the emphasis on the slightly insane Batman was lost. This guy dresses as a bat for fuck's sake. He's just as insane as the people he goes after......anyway enough ranting. I could go on about this all day but I doubt very much that the Warner's suits even bother to lift their corpulent asses of their swivel chairs and bother to look on sites like this to get an idea of what people want in a film. The higher you climb up the ladder, the more people can see your ass.... FUCK THE SUITS & FUCK FREDDIE P JR Not becasue Buffy sucks him...but just because he isn't worth the steam from my piss.

  • May 11, 2001, 1:24 a.m. CST

    Clooney blows

    by theharm

    I can't believe some of you SOBs-George Clooney-somebody still wants this guy to be Batman? yeah, if he'd get his head bolted down-what the hell is up with his head bobbing? Is he dreaming of blowing Robin the entire time? I'll bet Robin kept a hand on his nuts the entire time. And Freddi Prinze jr- the only thing he's good for is a GAY PORNO with Matthew Lillard. Now Boreanaz or Boreanus I can see as Batman.

  • May 11, 2001, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Blockbuster CAN Suck

    by MCVamp

    And usually does. I worked there for five years, some good some bad. It all depends on management. But it isn't worth it. The rise of pay vs the rise in responsibility (aka blame) is horrible. In the end I took to closing early to go get a beer twice a week just so I could get fired. And I was one of the GOOD employees. One of my fellow managers took $2000 on her last night and never got caught. What it comes down to, is if the store is run by a man or woman in their early 20's who has come to the realization that the job ISN'T the end all be all of life, work is usually fun. However, the worst manager is the mid-30's to late 40's white female who treats their employees like potential theives, children, or threats to their position. I had to work for four of them. Six if you count District Managers. Or does everyone have this problem with work, not just BBV employees? On the flip side, Blockbuster is a great place to get laid by cute female co-workers. In the end, that's all I miss. Oh, and Freddie Prinze Jr. is possibly the worst regularly-employed actor I've ever seen. It's mind-wobbling that he still gets cast. He must be able to suck a golfball through ten feet of garden hose, if you catch my meaning.

  • May 11, 2001, 6:28 a.m. CST

    Prinze is the finest actor of his generation

    by BeaucoupSexmoves

    Prinze combines the poise of Sir John Gielgud the raw sexual energy of Rex Harrison, the charm of Cary Grant, the appeal of Jimmy Stewart and the masculinity of Connery. As a technical actor he surpasses them all. Prinze is the greatest cinema actor in the short history of the medium.

  • GEORGE CLOONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That rumours was thrown out ages ago...for fuck's sake! I thought you people read the stuff on this site!??!!?! One more time, just for the thick motherfuckers in the cheap seats.......GEORGE CLOONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE BATMAN

  • May 11, 2001, 10:09 a.m. CST

    put a moustache and glasses on Nick Nolte and you got a perfect

    by Eric Draven

    ...and to iamgod...does yer mom know u r on the computer, little boy? and yeah, i was brainstorming angel and wes as batman...i never do many talkbacks..just started to again, so all the talkback stuff is new to me again... But Nick Nolte would be the definitive Comissioner Gordon..

  • May 11, 2001, 11:14 a.m. CST

    More on Blockbuster (or Lackluster, Cockduster, etc.)...

    by BarkingShins

    There is a Blockbuster just a couple of short blocks from my place and I USED to go there once-in-a-great-while when I couldn't find a copy of whatever movie I was looking for elsewhere. You see, I have never cared for Blockbuster primarily because of their, what I consider to be, counter-productive influence on the movie biz, but I never had anything personal against them. Then, about three years ago, they sicced a collection agency on me for an $8 LATE FEE!! A COLLECTION AGENCY!! FOR $8!!!! Every video store I have ever been to simply requires that you pay any existing late-fees before you can rent more...right? (except for the Hollywood Videos here in Minneapolis...they don't really give a shit, as long as you pay them eventually, they will let you rent) Needless to say, I paid the offending late-fee and asked the clerk to remove me from the computer. The snotty little asshole told me that there was "no way to do that...SIR!!" which I expect is not true. Anyway, I threw my card away and haven't so much as been in their store, or even their parking lot, since (about 3 years now). I have also managed to talk most of my friends and family into never renting from BB. By-the-way, this is the only "boycott" I have ever been a part of in my whole life. BOYCOTT FASCISM!!...BOYCOTT BLOCKBUSTER!!

  • May 11, 2001, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Little-known Blockbuster Fact

    by MCVamp

    The collection agency (CPA I believe) that Blockbuster uses is a phony. It is a "division" of Blockbuster based out of the company's Texas and Florida headquarters. The letters threatening to ruin your credit rating are just carefully worded scare tactics. They are printed straight out of your account by Blockbuster themselves on impressive-looking stationery and will only go to an actual outside agency if the balance exceeds $600.00 (basically when it becomes felony theft.) The only thing a balance at Blockbuster will really do... is hurt your chances of renting at another Blockbuster. Since there's a 50-50 chance you'll get a total idiot helping you at the store anyway, you can probably get away with a balance regardless. But fuck Hollywood Video. At least Blockbuster employees are polite enough to say hello and actually look up at you when you rent.

  • May 11, 2001, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Bale as Batman? Sounds good

    by SilentBob X

    Alot better than Freddy 'gay smirk' Prinze Jr. This little SOB should be bent over a barrel and gang raped by a pack of wild horses with syphillis. I'm sure that Arnofsky's going to do a great job. I have faith in the man. Just so long as there's alot of action, a babe or 2, maybe a cameo by another DC hero(Green Arrow, maybe), and a hole free plot. That should make it a popcorn epic worthy of the masses. Thank You. Snootch to the Nootch.

  • May 11, 2001, 5:14 p.m. CST

    BBV is okay but HOLLYWOOD VIDEO sucks major wang!!!!

    by theharm

    I used to go to hollywood video all the time-until a funny little thing happened. I rented a couple of movies-you know the 5 day thing and didn't have time to check them out till the 4th day. One of them was dirty and my VCR is one of the newer ones that just goes blue screen and shuts down so I go back to Hollywood and the manager tells me that he can't A) give me a duplicate copy for a day or B) give me a refund besides he said"IT WAS PRBABLY MY OWN FAULT FOR HAVING A DIRTY VCR". SO when I asked for their HQs complaint number he got all apologetic and gave me another copy- I still called their HQ to find out what the policy was-and the manger was right- THEIR CORPORATE POLICY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR REFUNDS EVEN IF IT'S THEIR FAULT THAT A TAPE IS DIRTY OR DAMAGED. I will never ever rent from that store ever again.

  • May 11, 2001, 7:35 p.m. CST

    by Barefootcity

    I think it is pathetic for the movie industry to think we are STUPID enough to buy into this sequel shit!! I can not believe that sequels are now a main way for the industry to make money, are the writters tapped out or what? It was bad enough with Aliens, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elmstreet and Halloween!! Now there is work on Terminator 3 for pete's sake!! Someone needs to stop this madness!!! What's next Forbidden Planet 2 or The Day the Earth Stood Still the next Adventure??!!

  • May 11, 2001, 10:46 p.m. CST

    by Johnny Demonic

    Okay, first of all, Blockbuster takes it in the face. What kind of video store does not carry unrated movies? And second, everytime I walk in the store some knob says "hi" to me. Obnoxious as hell. I know that managers tell them to say hello and make eye contact (to preven them from stealing), but fuck it's annoying. And how about when htey ask of you want popcorn and a fucking coke with your movie. FUCK OFF! If I want that shit I'll buy it. And it's not hard to get a membership at other Blockbusters if you owe shit an another one. I have a friend who just decided to keep the movie "Gia" becasue of the cool nudity, and just got a membership at another Blockbuster in another part of town. No problem. And I have to say something about Wes whatshisface from American Beauty. He would not make a good Batman. He's young and mysterious, but if you read Year One, Bruce does not look young. He looks like a man who has been through a lot of shit. And as far as AMERICAN BEAUTY goes, fuck that movie. Typical holywood anti heteor movie. Think about it. Every sex scene in that movie that was not gay was fucked up. Annete Benning and that fucking guy. Gross misapropiration of a hetero couple. Kevin Spacey and whatsherfuckingface. Child molestation. The only sexuality in that movie that is dealt with in a normal way and is treated with any respect is homosexuality. Typical gay agena movie. I don't understand why film makers cannot treat everyone with respect. Fuck.

  • May 12, 2001, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Free Speech

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    To the above Demonic-something or-other-guy, your spelling, or should I say speeling?), is atrocious and goes part way to showing the (low) level of your (sub-normal)intellect. I was going to just ignore your entire rant and move on but I feel that you, little boy, have missed the entire point of the great movie American Beauty. Gay Agenda? Umm okaaay. As a fan of all movies I cannot just stand by while dumb little sprites such as yourself slag off movies they didn't understand just because they were too young (or just too mentally juvenile) to have even been allowed to see them in the first place. As a white heterosexual male, sure I enjoy being part of the majority. I can certainly understand the pride you feel in expressing your heterosexuality. Although thou doth protest too much, methinks. You're reading too much into the depiction of sexuality in American Beauty. You're trying to read the film as Gay propaganda. American Beauty is not the celebration of Gay otherness like Mardi Gras or Pride Parades. It advertises no alternative lifestyle. All the relationships in it were fucked up. It was just a bunch of stuff that happened. No agenda. I applaud your attempt to read the film, but you're wrong maybe when you mature a little and have some healthy non internet based relationships you'll understand, appreciate and even like this great film. Although I disagree with what you said, I will fight to the death to protect your right to say it. Oh and stealing from video stores is wrong, just plain wrong. You should know better. Harry Lime. __________ Using the internet as it was originally intended to be used ---- for the further research of pornography and pipebombs.

  • May 12, 2001, 10:45 a.m. CST

    dyno-dave: "Halloween: H20" purposely ignored 4-6

    by Elgyn6655321

    And from what I hear, Part 8 will ignore them too.

  • May 12, 2001, 7:41 p.m. CST

    A younger Batman

    by Huneybee

    There's no way Clooney could play a 25 year old so does it really matter (now) whose fault it is that his Batman sucked? I liked the suggestion about Josh Hartnett. He can pull off dark and brooding very well and is certainly the right age. The only Batman Clooney will be able to creditable star in will be Batman: The Midlife Crisis in which he paints the Batmobile red, plops a bad toupe on top of the batsuit between those pointy little ears and starts cruising Gotham for a prostitute(played by SMG). He must do battle with her pimp, FPJ...

  • May 12, 2001, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Blockbuster and the fall of Western Civilization

    by DearGodMySpleen

    My own experience is that they spent at least 50 cents on postage and who knows how much in labor to send me a letter informing me that I am currently carrying a balance of $2.50 for a copy of Tomb Raider that was two hours late. I haven't seen such penny-pinching Gestapo tactics since the IRS sent me a threatening letter for my back taxes totalling a whopping $4.23. As for the posts on American Beauty, it may or may not have had a gay agenda, but it was a self-important piece of shit written and produced by people that have absolutely no idea how real people live their lives. Then again, which writer/producer/actor in Hollywood doesn't fit that bill? Naga-nooch.

  • May 26, 2001, 2:52 a.m. CST


    by churiso

    i work for blockbuster, and even though most of it sucks, it caters to the weak minded masses. The only people i have had contact with who are up in arms about blockbuster are MORONS>>> with out any common sense, open ears, or a tiny bit of comprehension skills. im not a fan of bbv but maybe you should read something before you sign it, and realize that the world doesnt work around you and your own set of personal rules,, that is fascism.... and another thing,, working bbv over is soooo amazingly simple it is not even funny, if you cant figure out how to get out of late fees and MORE, then you deserve to pay them. Plus why would bbv care if you closed your account, you werent going to pay your bills anyways