Herc Reviews the 2nd ANGEL of Sweeps!!
ANGEL 2.20 FAQ
What’s it called?
“Over the Rainbow.”
Teleplay is credited to Mere Smith, who also authored “Redefinition” and “Blood Money,” the first two episodes to deal with Angel after he fired his staff. (“Redefinition” was a series high point; it saw Angel set Darla and Dru afire!)
What does TV Guide say?
“After being inadvertently sucked into a dimensional portal, Cordelia finds herself stuck in the Host's home world, Pylea, a place where human beings aren't exactly treated as such. While Cordy (Charisma Carpenter) struggles to endure the hardships of otherworldly existence - which include being treated as a slave and referred to as ‘cow’ - Angel, Wesley, the Host and Gunn work on how to get her back. They decide that the only acceptable (but nonetheless risky) plan is to go to Pylea themselves. Of course, the only way to get there is to first locate another functional portal. And the Host (Andy Hallett) is none too excited about the idea of a homecoming.”
The big news?
It looks like the season finale of “Buffy” will be only one hour long. After tonight, there are two more new installments of “Angel”: “Through the Looking Glass” (2.21) and “There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb” (2.22).
Why do you think “Angel” is going to UPN next fall?
The gang follows Cordy into Pylea through a portal they find on the Paramount lot. (You think I might be kidding, don’t you?)
The Pyleans think Cordy’s a cow?
Does anyone try to milk her?
Not this week.
TV Guide says next week Cordy is the Princess of Pylea. How does she go from “cow” to royalty?
She carries “the curse of the sight.”
Can Angel survive Pylean sunlight (as suggested in the promos)?
He could get a tan in Pylea.
Was there something about this episode that reminded you of “Evil Dead II?”
As the promos suggest, the gang enters Pylea with transportation.
Do we get to see Angel & Co. wreak “Army of Darkness”-like automotive mayhem?
Not this week. But it looks like they’re going to be stuck in Pylea at least two more episodes.
When do Cordy’s coworkers join her?
About halfway in.
Is Krevlornswath’s dimension as hellish as described?
For a “demon dimension,” the place is downright pastoral! Barns, castles, open-air markets. It’s maybe one jester away from a renaissance fair.
What’s the downside?
Human slaves in Pylea wear collars that work a lot like the ones Kirk and Chekov wore in the “Gamesters of Triskelion.”
Do the locals use quatloos to bid for Cordy?
No. She’s traded for a pig.
Does everyone there look like Krevlornswath?
Not all. There are a few different kinds of demons. But Krevlornswath’s race seems to be running the show.
Many will be happy to see the show try something so different.
What’s not so good?
You can see almost all of the episode’s gags coming up 5th Avenue.
What’s TV Guide not telling us?
Krevlornswath has a really hot psychic friend who knows where to find really hot psychic spots. (She calls him “Lorne,” so one guesses his name wasn’t that big a secret after all.)
Any signs of Dru or Darla?
Any sign of Wolfram & Hart?
Yes! Before the gang departs, two W&H lawyers (ones we haven’t seen before) turn up to inform Angel the firm is contemplating buying Angel’s hotel after his lease expires in six months.
And that’s all we find out about W&H’s plans before Angel has to head off to rescue the Cordster.
Herc’s rating for “Angel” 2.20?
The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:
**** better than most motion pictures
*** actually worth your valuable time
** as horrible as most stuff on TV
* makes you quietly pray for bulletins
She was a happy girl the day that she left me!
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May 8, 2001, 3:07 a.m. CST
by Mr. Smegma
I admit we skirt dangerously close to Sliders territory with portal-fu and alternate dimensions, but as often as they are referenced in the series we almost have spend some time there. It also must be a kick for the writers, crew, and cast to do extended bits outside in the sunshine. Interesting metaphor that, the "dark world" being all bright and festive.
May 8, 2001, 5:16 a.m. CST
The majority og writing on Angel is sad, and the direction usually clumsy. I like the plot points and developments, but their implementation isn't up to Buffy standards. Of course, Buffy was a bit stilted the first couple of seasons as well, so I'm willing to give it another season or two.
May 8, 2001, 7:31 a.m. CST
I found some cool episode stills for Angel 2.20 at this address: http://www.thewb.com/angel/s02/220/gallery/01.shtml Just follow the "NEXT" arrow for more pics. "Just call me Lorne"
May 8, 2001, 8:01 a.m. CST
The spoiler you're talking about, with a "Scoob" appearing in the other dimension was totally false, it's part of the spoilers that Herc talks about, and denounces, in his Buffy news above this review.
May 8, 2001, 9:49 a.m. CST
Doesn't Angel film on the Paramount lot? I thought I saw on an Entertainment Tonight that Angel now films, at least in part, on one of the stages that used to contain the "Brady Bunch" house (how ironic is that?).
May 8, 2001, 11:45 a.m. CST
I was on the Paramount lot last January and there were no signs of offices or stages for ANGEL. I also was on one of the location sets for ANGEL (Zombie Cop episode) and saw no obvious sign of Paramount about. I have a friend who works there and I'll see if anything has changed. By the way, thanks to the almight webmaster for a password worse than Lorne's full name!!!
May 8, 2001, 6:12 p.m. CST
It keeps going up and down. The end of the first season and early on this season, I could take or leave it. Then it got really good when Dru and Darla became the focus. Now Angel's all wacky and it's bugging me. I'm sorry, but last week's episode was bad, as was the one before (except they've both had excellent endings that could have been tagged onto anything). Something big better be set up this week or I'm just going to rewind Buffy and watch it again.
May 8, 2001, 6:17 p.m. CST
The non-Three's Company Cordy/Harmony stuff was pretty funny, but way too much wacky Angel and wacky evil cult vampires.
May 8, 2001, 7:13 p.m. CST
was it just me or was tonite episode featureing not only cordy in jeans( a mind blowing experience by the way), also feature a very shiny bikini-esque top/bottom that beat out last episodes. WB is becoming the porn network!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!
May 9, 2001, 5:16 a.m. CST
I don't like the way Angel is winding down to its finale at all. I'm still enjoying the characters, and I'm not about to stop watching. But I don't like the way the writers are fighting the build-up formula of Buffy. Just because Buffy does it doesn't mean Angel shouldn't. The consequences of Angel's "I just can't seem to care" moment have all been settled prematurely, and that time when Darla wondered "who was THAT," when Angel burned them hasn't been followed up either. Again, I know Angel is a different show from Buffy, but I don't like the season going out on a whimper. Darla and Dru are AWOL and likely to stay that way the rest of the season now that we're in Xena/Hercules land indefinately. And What's with Wolfram and Hart? I'm sorry, but now that Lindsey left, it has drastically reduced my interest in them. Lilah isn't that fascinating at the moment, and even SHE is a no show. Daniel Dea Kim from Crusade appearing lastnight as a WR&H lawyer was good, but he's just another shark in a suit right now, and he probably won't be back either. I'm assuming Lindsey, Darla, and Dru WILL be back next season since they weren't killed off, but at the moment the Law Firm is right back to where it was most of last season: a faceless stock villain giving us hell. We should call them Romulans and get it over with. Now that I've flamed like a good fan boy, I'll add that I still watch Angel and Buffy religiously! I might complain like an asshole, but I do love watching the shows and I'll continue to do so(i.e. until they REALLY piss me off the way Farscape has by needlessly killing off my favorite character). If both Angel and Buffy end up together on UPN I'll be grateful since I don't know what I'd do if they were on different Networks with the same time slot or something. However, I have doubts that WB will give up Angel so easily because they KNOW it'll go to UPN. And since it sounds like they're going to dump the Fox-produced Roswell, which may or may not go to UPN too, I don't know if WB is too keen on losing THREE shows over this mess. What's more, lose them to UPN?
May 9, 2001, 6:52 a.m. CST
Well his name is Lorne, and he's green . . . is this an omage, a clue to how the Host will die, or just sick cooincidence?
May 9, 2001, 9:24 a.m. CST
May 9, 2001, 11:33 a.m. CST
Well, to all those who complain about Angels wishy-washy nature of seeming to drop points like the whole Darla/Dru burning, Angels going nutty, and Lindsay leaving abruptly. Heres the thing- yes, it does kind of harm the show, but the reason all this stuff happens is that the actors involved have other projects. Unfortunatley its the kind of real world hampering the fictional world kind of stuff that you just have to suck up. Buffy, pretty much tied down all of its actors, villians, and so forth ahead of time, and it doesnt have these faults that Angel has. Hell, that chick cop was on Angel, that TNT series, and was going through the Law and Order auditioning process too...Yeah, it does scar the show a little, but compared to other shows on tv, Angel still beats the pants off of most of them, humor, action, and overall entertainment-wise, so suck it up, loyal viewer, and enjoy it while you've got it.
May 9, 2001, 11:53 a.m. CST
I've got this bad feeling, I'm sure some of you saw this connection too. Angel and the Scoobies are stuck in another dimension with no way back. The Key opens all the dimensions. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LET ANGEL'S CAR COME CRASHING THROUGH A PORTAL INTO GLORY DURING THE BUFFY FINALE!!!!! P.S. I concur with the hot Host psychic friend, Cordy's ass, the episodes are sucking lately, and why no weapons (the only reason I could think of is the might be siamese twins with weapons through their chests, kinda like why everybody goes through the telepod naked in the Fly).
May 9, 2001, 12:31 p.m. CST
by Wicked Raygun
...Is Angel falling for Cordy. Yeah, I know... it's supposed to be a brotherly type thing but with the way he's been acting lately, I don't know. I mean he took Cordy's resentment the hardest after the err... "Dark Angel" mini-arc. He seemingly got jealous and possesive at her commercial shoot. Plus he's been going out of his way to make her happy and he grins like an idiot whenever she says something nice to him. Now I could take all this, and just push it aside as sibling love, but, last night's "I can't lose her! I just got her back!," line pushed it over, man. I mean hello... Freudian Slip, anyone?
May 9, 2001, 12:47 p.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
I heard that ANgel uses the stages once occupied by Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. It's funny because a few years ago Buffy and DS9 were all I watched. The DS9 ended and Angel started the following season and now Buffy and Angel are all I watch. Good things come from that particular soundstage, I guess.
May 9, 2001, 1:39 p.m. CST
Seriously, I have completed enjoyed both story archs. Joss Whedon is a wicked story teller. And due to this, I'm picking up that comic book he's written when it becomes available! The story lines here are so good - yes, they haven't dealt with the "dark Angel" episode or the setting Dru/Darla in flames moment. But then Angel has been busy trying to regain the trust (and friendships), of Wes, Gunn and Cordie. Its understandable that he's been well, busy. As for BTVS and the scoobs - I believe the Angel crew could kick the livin' tar out of the Scoobs. Did anyone notice how USELESS Xander was last night? Or how everyone kept saying..."Buffy, we need you..." or "Buffy, what are we going to do now..." For GODs' sake people, she just lost her Mother and may be losing her sister?! She feels a little bit lost at the moment. It would have been cool if Willow took control or Spike or even Xander?! Couldn't someone have stepped in as "leader of the pack" for the sake of their good friend? However, I LOVED the sisterly love on last night's ep. That brought a definite tear to my eye as did the moment between Buffy and Giles. Oh, I don't want this season to end.....but how I can't wait to see both shows' season finale!!!!!
May 9, 2001, 2:57 p.m. CST
by sredni vashtar
The Many Colored Land, by Julian May, (c. 1980?)
May 9, 2001, 3:12 p.m. CST
by David Addison
Does anybody remeber the earlier Buffy Episiode where Ben finds out Dawn is the key? HE is talking to her and then he changes into Glory... in front of Dawns eyes! How in teh hell is that reconcicled with Tuesdays episide where Dawn talks to Ben and doesn't even seem like the encounter ever happened? Any suggestions for a solution to this quandry?
May 9, 2001, 3:31 p.m. CST
I'm not 100% sure, but I thought the deal was the memory of the change faded away almost immediately. Some sort of power that keeps Glory's identity a secret so the Knights That Say Key won't be able to check news reports for "Cute girl changes into man at local school, news at 11". I think they'll be able to piece it together even with the memory loss this time because they'll remember Ben being brought in, that Glory has a male human half (from the General's story), and that Glory magically appeared and took Dawn (with Ben nowhere to be found).
May 9, 2001, 5:30 p.m. CST
I read in an interview with Joss Whedon that we are going to meet a character in theses episodes that will be a regular next season me thinks she's it.
May 9, 2001, 5:50 p.m. CST
She's a lot hotter than Fred the librarian. Plus it opens up lots of psychic friends network storylines with tons of commercial revenues from the tie-ins (UPN's got to get what it can). Maybe Tara can sell the Juiceman.
May 9, 2001, 7:25 p.m. CST
I see I'm not the only one who see's the potential plot lines in Buffy and Angel. The Key opens the dimensions, Angel and crew are IN another dimension with no way out. One more thing....Glory was a God of a dimension of Demons, Angel's crew is trapped IN a dimension of Demons....So my prediction is while it may seem that the Buffy and Angel final eps are only one hour each...I think it's really a two hour long joint final episode...which would really suck ass.
May 10, 2001, 9:26 p.m. CST
I agree that the 'dark Angel' arc was resolved too early. I feel that the writers could have had a lot more fun with it. I am enjoying the new Angel they are giving us. He has taken the cue from Lorne and is lightening up. The gag he pulled on Lindsey when he left town? Precious! A bit more like the Angel from BTVS' first season. But I hope they don't stray too far from the brooding and angst. I always dug the tragic hero line, and think it is important to the show. I was hoping he would have to be make a tough choice to leave Pylea, where he can get a tan, or return to the darkness of LA. But it looks like that decision has been made for him, hinted at in the trailer for next week...
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