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Interesting Theory Regarding The A.I. Mystery Online!!!

Published at:  Apr 26, 2001 2:50:57 AM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... If you are like me, then you are a member of CLOUDMAKERS, the Yahoo Group of Collective Detectives doing battle with the PuppetMasters to solve all of the A.I. Mysteries shrouded into the messages, faxes, emails, phone-calls, music, html, invisible writing, layered images... All sorts of tricks and troubles... And through this group the puzzles are being solved, steps are moving forward and all of that... But today I got an email from a fella named Paul about a similarity of sorts between the plotline of Evan Chan and an obscure book by Frederic Raphael (Kubrick fans know that name) that he wrote back in 1971. Obscure because it is completely out of print, and the only known copy that I've found is on AMAZON at around $100 right now. Sigh... Nothing on Ebay, Barnes&Noble or the British Book Dealers I know... Now we all know that this A.I. stuff is being written and orchestrated by someone or a group of people that seemingly put far more effort into this than any of the Online Promotions we've seen... Warners and Dreamworks publicly state "NO COMMENT" when the press contacts them.... That's why the press then contacts me or the folks in CLOUDMAKERS... Could one of the Puppetmasters be Frederic Raphael? Is his WHO WERE YOU WITH LAST NIGHT a road map to the mystery? There could be something here!




Harry,

I've seen the AI game and been keeping up with it somewhat. I'm also
currently reading a biography about Kubrick and I reached an interesting
passage. At first it goes on about how Traumnovel was developed by Kubrick
into Eyes Wide Shut. No big scoop. Then it describes another book right
after it, "Who Were You With Last Night". Now its rumored that some imagery
was taken from this for Eyes Wide Shut but the plot summary says:

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"Charlie Hanson is an ex-sailor who left the sea fourteen years before to
marry Lola, an attractive redhead whom he made pregnant the first time they
had sex. Feeling trapped by circumstances, he works as a salesman spending
his time on the road fantasising about Lola and how he might merdur her in
order to spend more time with Jean, the sexually inventive colleague with
whom he's having an affair.

Jean and Charlie are together in the office one night when a stranger bursts
in and menaces them with a gun. Is he Jean's husband, or lover? We never
find out, because Charlie overpowers him, then lets him go..."

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Common Themes?

Charlie Hanson = Chan

Lola = Laia

Jean = Jeanine

Is a sailor
Trapped by pregnancy (birth lottery)?

Now this doesn't describe the events in the Evan Chan mystery, but I think
it has some details that make it too big of a coincidence to be ignored.
None of these details were in Eyes Wide Shut; however, this book seems to
have been of great importants to Kubrick. Unfortunately I don't want to
cough up $100 on Amazon to buy it so I'm off to the library. Or maybe this
whole thing has me a little paranoid?

What do you think?

Pete



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  • Apr 26, 2001 3:02:12 AM CDT

    FIRST !!!

    by reubz

    I think this AI crap has gone on for far too long. Mr Speilberg, do the right thing and put us out of our misery

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  • Apr 26, 2001 3:04:03 AM CDT

    www.abebooks.com

    by nafl

    There's a copy of this book in New York for $5, according to the abebooks listing. Someone snatch it up. Might want to look at www.bookfinder.com too.

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  • Apr 26, 2001 4:01:52 AM CDT

    www.alibris.com

    by zacdilone

    $124.00--that ain't cheap, but it is a first edition

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  • Apr 26, 2001 4:29:26 AM CDT

    Umm...

    by nakedtwister

    Considering the Kubrick family's displeasure at Raphael and his negative account of Stanley, I find it unlikely that he'd be allowed an active role in the AI marketing...
    Especially with Jan Harlan (SK's brother-in-law) executive-producing.

    Still, not impossible, I suppose.

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  • Apr 27, 2001 11:42:03 AM CDT

    Guess I would actually be first.

    by azmoviez2

    Considering I wrote the email, I guess I would be first but "Paul"?? You could have got my name right. Anyone find the book yet?

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  • Apr 27, 2001 1:12:21 PM CDT

    Raphael?

    by wee willie

  • Apr 28, 2001 12:01:06 AM CDT

    Read the damn original story!!!

    by godive

    If you wanna know about AI, read the original story that Brian Aldiss wrote that inspired the script. You can find it free online,,or get it in his new book, in which he talks at length about how he developed it with the late great SK, also in the book he includes two sequel stories that Steven Speilberg has now bought off him.

    Aldiss writes that Stanley was intent to make a

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  • Apr 28, 2001 8:51:23 AM CDT

    Kubrick has a secretary named Lincoln . . .

    by rollo tomassi

    and lincoln had a secretary named Kubrick. Something to think about.

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  • Apr 28, 2001 9:13:05 AM CDT

    Spielberg has a producer named Kennedy

    by bowman

    Let's count our blessings that there's not a rabbit named Oswald anywhere near Evan Chan.

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  • Apr 28, 2001 10:22:56 AM CDT

    Kubrick is still alive I think and will show up at the premiere.

    by regis travolta

    Just to say Hello World I fooled you all didn't I. A fun time will be had by all.

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  • Apr 28, 2001 5:21:59 PM CDT

    Major Spoiler

    by domisinnerchild

    Brando has been cast as the robotic whale that eats little woodenboy and his sexbot sidekick.

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