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Jonathan Mostow to direct TERMINATOR 3'
Hey folks, Harry here... Today, Michael Fleming and VARIETY are reporting that Jonathan Mostow (director of BREAKDOWN & U-571) is negotiating to take the reins of the long rudderless TERMINATOR 3.
Ok, so the script as it currently stands is basically without any real purpose to be made other than to make money. It explores nothing new, takes the characters nowhere new... and in the end game, it has felt like nothing more than regurgitation of party platter foods... nothing very satisfying.... BUT....
Jonathan Mostow is a very interesting young director... Now, while I'd prefer to see him direct Roger Avary's SECONDS remake... having Mostow spend the entire strike refining T3 into a lean and mean film project might be very cool. At the same time, I still really see no need to make this movie other than a last chance cash in.... But with Mostow on board I'd be interested to see what he would do with the material. If he does sign aboard, we're still looking at a post-strike start at the earliest... we'll see....
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Jonathan Mostow? What happened to What happened to John McTiernan? I thought he was on board to direct? Well thank God he's not, coz he couldn't have handled the scope this movie requires I think. But can Mostow? We'll have to see. Still, eventhough there's indeed no reason whatsoever to make this movie instead of making money, it would be kinda cool to see a Boing 747 crash in downtown L.A.. Schwarzenegger said it wasn't necessary, and a budget of $300 million wasn't either; I say: the bigger, the better.
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Mar 27, 2001 2:56:19 AM CST
Terminator 3 needs the kind of rollercoaster intensity that Came
by psyclops
At the very least, this film should be entertaining... without making us feel insulted by watching it (remember Armageddon!). Besides, Arnold needs a career boost before he becomes the next republican president.
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Are you talking about the scope of an action film? Isn't this the same man who directed PREDATOR, DIE HARD, and THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER? Or do you mean the scope of an intelligent action film? The Thomas Crown Affair, anyone? He's had a few duds here and there (Last Action Hero, The 13th Warrior) but I think the good outweighs the bad.
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Mar 27, 2001 4:31:35 AM CST
"Mostow is a very interesting young director" !!?????!!!?????
by jesus q einstein
Erm, am I missing something here? I thought he was a late 30-something peddler of pedestrian dross.
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C'mon....the coolest part has been left out almost entirely...the future. (which by now has never happened, but that doesn't matter). Neither "sequel" nor "prequel," but with tons of potential.
And Arnold could be in it as BOTH of the terminators that he played. -
Do it now!
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The 13th Warrior was not a DUD dammit. Inferior to the book (and the title change sucked) but it was cool.
It had escaped my attention that he directed Last Action Hero, though...ugh. "Magic ticket my butt, McBain." -
He wasn't born as an American citizen. BREAKDOWN was a pretty good movie. T3 will still suck the big one though!
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He is a very mediocre director just like this script seems to be. He don't make terrible films but nothing really good either. He films are utterly forgettable. Personally I think he is one of the most UNINTERRESTING directors out there. Also, he can't work with actors. Now when Cameron is not directing my first choices would be Ridley Scott or David Fincher.
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...I think Harry has mixed his metaphors again, with that clumsy "taking the reins of a rudderless project' thing, poor illiterate hack. I also think this film will be frog shit, for the simple reason that the story was finished at the end of T2. Somebody should bring Hollywood up to date on such narrative concepts as the Aristotelian plot structure. When a story is over... you stop telling it. It's crazy, I know, but it may just work.
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Flight Of The Black Eagle...fuckin lame....Breakdown....interesting, but not good...U-571...pretty bad, but a little bit fun.....but y'know what? None of them showed any hidden promise of anything to come even remotely resembling the effort required for the likes of T3 up his generic ass sleeves.
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He may not be the biggest director out there, but at least he has talent as a storyteller. Go back and watch Breakdown again - if any of you have actually seen it - and realise that a good film begins and ends with a good STORY, not good CGI.
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what the hell does "He can't work with actors" mean, andreasingo?
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Mostow is the perfect director for this material. So far he's taken two admittedly B-movie scripts ("Breakdown" and "U-571") and turned them into very entertaining, highly charged thrillers.
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Does it matter who's directing it? If there's a sequel the world really doesn't need it's this one. The Terminator was incredible, and still stands up now, and Terminator 2 was Arnie at his absolute peak, coupled with a big ol' hunk of cash for effects and a director who wanted to go further with technology than ever before. And of course, the story was resolved (well, as resolved as any movie involving time travel can be). These days Arnie is a joke and a dinosaur (I mean really, when was his last good movie? Even if you defend them, you have to admit they don't stand up to his late 80's/early 90's heyday) and moviegoers want something new, not just old films rehashed to make a buck. T3 will be a huge anticlimax.
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Alien 3. Godfather 3. RoboCop 3. Star Trek 3. Beverly Hills Cop 3. Does anyone see a pattern appearing here?
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Please stop making movies just to pay the rent on your mansions. The last good film you made was TRUE LIES years ago. Please realize that you can't put as many butts in the seats anymore with standard action fare like THE SIXTH DAY or COLLATERAL DAMAGE. Take a small paycut and make films like I AM LEGEND and CRUSADES, and take a back-end deal a la Tom Cruise. Doing Terminator 3 w/out Cameron is like doing another STAR WARS w/out Lucas. You used to be a vast beach of coolness, now you are but a child's sandbox.
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anyone ever seen that?
that shit is hot
anyways, T3 will suck
unless Ah-nold seriously gets some awesome, hefty violence going on
hopefully they scrap the idea of "Cousin Oliver" Connor, a freckled redheadded kid who is the comic relief. Also, they need to show the femme-bot's robo boobies! yeah! that'd be cool!
Famke! lol -
Loved Thomas Crown affair though. And Mostow
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SUPERMAN 3, BATMAN FOREVER,& JAWS 3. By the way, STAR TREK III may not have been the best TREK film but it was slightly better than average......it definitely does not deserved to be mentioned among these other stinkers! It was certainly the best of TREK's odd-numbered films!
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Mar 27, 2001 8:38:28 AM CST
Mostow/Schwarzenegger to do JOSIE AND THE TERMINATOR CATS instea
by regis travolta
So excited is Hollywood over the upcoming Josie and the Pussy Cats movie that they have decided to go pedal to the metal on its sequel by teaming the Pussy Cats up with The Terminator. Said Mostow, "Arnold believes that eating is not cheating" on Maria so we are going to be making this movie NC-17 all the way with the T-3000 getting to have a 4some with the Pussy Cats. Arnold is extremely excited about the sex scenes and is also learning to play the tamborine for the music video numbers. Eddie Furlong will be making a cameo as the group's horny but lovable roadie. Hijinks ensue as the group tours the country with a re-constituted Robert Patrick on their tails in cyber-disguise as a Rolling Stone journalist designed to look like Cameron Crowe when he was 15 years old. Climax takes place at the VH1 awards with the President's helicopter crashing into the Hollywood Bowl where the musical action takes place. Budget is 200 million dollars. Look for it in theaters next summer.
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How could I forget Jaws 3? Actually, I know why - the simple fact that Jaws The Revenge was so unremittingly bad, it overshadowed Jaws III's overall suckiness. And Batman Forever was another one I sghould have thought of. But in the same way you kinda like Star Trek 3 (which always sends me to sleep) I kinda like Superman 3. Don't get me wrong, it's not a good film, but it was the first movie I saw on my own at the cinema so it does have a nostalgia thing for me... no wait, scratch that, it is shit.
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If Arnold Schwarzenegger should star in the rumored "Terminator 3" the Terminator franchise would be in ruin. The Terminator does not need another installment. A Robocop Versus Terminator motion picture would be much better. Arnold Schwarzenegger is beginning to star in moronic motion pictures such as "End of Days" and "The Sixth Day." Arnold, you are too old to be an action hero. Let the action heroes go to the people who do not use weapons but their martial arts like Li Lian Jie and Jackie Chan Sing Lung.
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Mar 27, 2001 10:59:01 AM CST
From Ridley Scott to Jon Mostow? Talk about a lowering of standa
by salem hanna
Sorry, but if true this is a joke. Scott and McTiernan were at the same career stage (roughly) as Cameron, made blockbusting sci-fi before in their careers, and have directed A-list action stars at their peak (Ford in Blade Runner, Schwarzenegger in Last Action Hero). I'm not saying Last Action Hero was a good or even underrated film, merely that McTiernan has experience in bossing an A-List ego around on a big-budget picture. I held out hope when they were attached, but Mostow doesn't even BEGIN to enter this kind of league, either in terms of talent or experience. Why can't they get a hold of John Woo, Wolfgang Petersen, Richard Donner, Ridley's brother Tony, Renny Harlin, Michael Bay, Paul Verhoeven, Jan de Bont or even Roland Emmerich? Since they're waiting til post-strike I'm sure at least ONE of these guys will have time for it. Whatever you think of them (all Talkbackers will love at least one and hate at least one) they are at least on the director's A-list. Mostow is firmly on the B-list, with Paul Anderson and Stephen Hopkins. Given the choice, I'd rather they left the series in peace than have this guy get his hands on it.
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Mar 27, 2001 11:09:45 AM CST
Will they have the Terminator drawing a Wily E. Coyote drawing o
by superninja
PULLS OUT A PIECE OF PAPER, LASER PEN SHOOTS OUT OF HIS INDEX FINGER. T100: So faast, we will cut dem off at the cliffs, un den.... T100 DRAWS A SLOW DOTTED LINE OVER THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF. T100: ...it will chase you to da giant X! Den I will push dis boulder on da T2000's hed.
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It's true!
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Totally agree with you about I Am Legend. I don't know what people see in that script besides that it comes off as a Dawn Of The Dead homage, and that all the contributors to this site are big Romero fans. The lead character is written as nothing more than a outdated 80s action star. Arnold should do King Conan.
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If it does, I say make Arnie the bad guy again (with a twist) and NO CHYNA as the new Terminator. Doing a female Terminator to me says they've run out of ideas and they're latching on to a 90s cliche. It needs to take place in the future as well because that's the only timeline left to explore (how far, you tell me). Make Arnie the SkyNet scientist that engineers the first T100 (it was based on him). He escapes into the past fleeing from a newer T-model. He finds Connor and hooks up with him as they are hunted by the Terminator. Put a neat little twist on it when Connor discovers that Arnie is trying to use THEM to destroy the pursuing Terminator, who his older self sent from the distant future to eliminate the scientist, the war not going too well.
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I hope to god that he is. He was the ultimate sci-fi action protaganist in The Terminator. He comes into our world butt-naked with no weapons or identity, yet still rescues the lady and semi-kills the villain.
Don't get me wrong, Arnie was terrific in T2 (but better as a villain). I liked his whole loveable cyborg Frankenstein routine. But the sequel lacked the dark overtones that made the original so amazing. T3 needs to be grim and gritty. Revealing to the audience this nightmare future that Reese described to Sarah Connor. I don't want a rehash of the chase scenerio or seeing another T800 become human through his relationship with John Connor. And I certainly DO NOT want Arnie beating the shit out of a young lady no matter how sexy she is when she appears naked through the time-hole. -
Mar 27, 2001 11:36:06 AM CST
Sure Why not! Arnie needs something to do besides molesten' Wome
by rickslamu2
Now that long drawn out story Linda Hamliton told to David Leterman About Arnie Molesten Her Twin Sister Makes Sense!
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Why do this? If the movie works, and it's not going to work as well as I & II, you get no credit. If it doesn't, you get all the blame. Cameron's a tough act to follow. Kind of like stepping in to direct Indiana Jones IV.
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Look, I'll lebbel mit you. I need to do einnothuh TUHMONATAH bodly! I've loscht mein towch. Also, people aren't soch dumkopts as dey vere in der '80s. Okay, maybe dey are soch dumpkopts und I chust don't look at gut so dey aren't buyink mein schtupit moobies anymoah. I mean, you mein cahreeah has zunk vhen KISS OSS...I mean PREMIEAH MOGASCHINE echschpose me as Mistah Grobby Hunds. I'm a choke. Now I only get have zex mit Mahreeah und she has der whole Cothlicht guilt ting. Ib I don't do einuthuh TUHMONATUH I vill habe to vork on dis schtupit zitcom called AHNIE dat dis schweinhund calt Bozz Movricht keebs bogging me about.
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Lyle Gorch I totally disagree with you...how can you know it won't work as well as the first two movies? I haven't read the script or anything, but I think there's potential for an AWESOME third movie in the series. Mostow has continually shown that he can make smart, solid BIG movies, which is exactly what T3 should be. I don't think that it's the same as Indy IV, since that would NEVER be good without Speilberg directing. Arnold is also ready for a comeback after those last 2 duds. "We have no fate but what we make for ourselves!"
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Breakdown gripped from start to finish, U-571 was probably the best pure action thriller of last year (not saying much though). He's a good choice. Cameron's moved on, Fincher - i don't think so (cool talent, yeah, but can he handle action and a $100million plus tab?), but Scott could do it. Not Ridley, but TONY. Tarantino was right, Tony is better than ridley.
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Mar 27, 2001 2:38:45 PM CST
Terminator3=Aliens 3&4 it will suck! leave the Terminator franci
by mooncake
so the guy who made Breakdown & U-571 is going to continue the T franchise. it will suck big time! why would they even want to destroy something that was great? those two previous terminator movies were just brilliant! it's so rare that hollywood could come up with something sooooooo f*cking good! just like those first 2 alien movies....but no some pencil dick executive from the studio's ALWAYS have to go for yet ANOTHER sequel & ruin the f*cking franchise! this shows that whores are indeed running hollywood!
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I agree that the guy is talented visually. He's capable in that aspect. But if the script is crap, it appears that if past history is telling, it will be just another "not total crap" action movie, which is what most action movies fall into nowadays. I would rather see Arnie used elsewhere, like KING CONAN!
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Hanging out on the Terrace with Dick and Tim and Joel and Mac and Iron Jim and Chevy and Hughsie. Talking about what great franchises we'd all make one day. I was going to get a SINBAD THE SAILOR franchise going. Hughsie and C.C. kept saying that I should hire Sinbad the Comedian to play him, and since they were serious, we made fun of them behind their backs. Walter kept talking about how he was going to find some space horror script and produce a franchise out of that, but what were the odds? We were just a bunch of star struck kids, in love with concept of franchises. Sure we were pretentious. Maybe none of us really liked Goddard's BREATHLESS KIDS franchise, or Kurosawa's SAMURAI CYBORG franchise as much as we said, but we had passion, man!
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If you were liquid metal, how would you vanquish your enemies? By turning into liquid, flowing into their ears, nose, and mouth and then taking the form of spikes of course. Heads expoding from giant metal spikes. This is an idea that will make millions, why is nobody using it? It's like ultimate Scanners. We need more interesting ways of killing people in our cinema. Think of the intro for Five Questions, that's what the public wants. More exploding heads, plus everybody loves spikes. -Studio Plant
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The trailor ruined T2's biggest twist. If you didn't see the trailor, you had no idea Arnie was good until the scene in the mall. I vote they rip off that idea again and this time mislead the public into thinking Arnie is good. It's not like there's any saving his public image at this point. O.J. could co-star.
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T3 needs new blood for a trilogy anyway, at least rid of Hamilton and Arnold.
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That is exactly what we all need. A movie that is a sequel to an already useless sequel, and isn't even being done by the creator of the originals. Those types of films are always great. Why Highlander 3 was fantastic, and I'm sure that Terminator 3 will be just as good!
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I've got a question. How come Arnold's hair in T2 was styled in that spiky buzz cut throughout the entire film? His hair in the first film didn't take on that look until after he got caught in that explosion, which burned off some of his hair and his eyebrows. The T-100's are all built to look the same way, so you would assume that they'd all have the same hairstyle, right? This is something that's always bugged me and I've never heard it explained anywhere. I know it's a minor detail, but damn!
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There's a little known scene cut from T2 where Arnie visits former hairdresser Jon Peters, who shows him that if he REALLY wants to relate to young John, that it's all about the hair. They cut it because they thought about making a prequel/sequel with Arnie and Jon's antics. It was to be called "Bad Hair Day" and feature an even newer, more exciting Terminator, but was stuck in development hell due to budgeting reasons.
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Mar 27, 2001 8:57:47 PM CST
Arnie's hair in T2 and why that film ,wrecked the whole premise
by horus
The real reason Arnie *came out the mold* with a ready made buzz cut , it that all the promotional stuff for the original Terminator , featured Arnie in leather jacket , cropped hair and shades.Hes nothing like that for the first half of T1
.These things{trademarks now} were aquired slowly , in the original film ... either thru injury {burnt hair} or as a means to disguise.Arnie wore the dark glasses in the first , to cover up the fact that he'd lost an eye.In T2 things had become so corny ,and styalized that he wore the shades , to *look* just like a Terminator!{thus inverting the whole concept of disguise!Come T3 I wouldn't be surprised to see Arnie come out of the T-800 mold , with his dark glasses already molded on!My other comment is , that for me..T2 ruined the whole premise of the original film.That was nice and clear cut.In the future , mankind is ,locked in a life and death struggle with machines.Its men VS Robots.T2 blurred that notion entirely ..it wimped out big time.and we ended up with a film , that had Arnie as the hero ..fighting another machine.there was very little room for peaple in it.{Ive not forgotten the contrived ending , that had Linda H, run out of shotgun shells , just so Arnie could turn up and save the day.The short movie T3-3D, wrecks things even further.we get Arnie running around in the future , fighting all the other terminators, Hunter killers etc.Kyle Reese and his resistance boys , dont get a look in! -
It's good business practice to keep backups off premises. Arnie's arm is also still crushed in that big gear, he just broke it off and left it.
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I didn't notice Arnie's hairdo from one film to the next. All I know is that the first Terminator was mildly entertaining, whereas the 2nd was extremely entertaining. Maybe the purists like the concept of the first, but I only found it to be a good 80s action film. I think T2 made it something more that really brought the concept full circle and let all the actors shine.
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"Doing Terminator 3 w/out Cameron is like doing another STAR WARS w/out Lucas."
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I went back and watched T2 again the other night, having not seen it in a couple years, and in retrospect THAT movie ruined the franchise. Undeniably some of the most spectacular action set pieces ever put to film, but crap acting, naff dialogue, and a plot that betrays all that was cool about the original. Edward Furlong invests John Conner with all the same gravitas Jake Lloyd brought to Anakin. Linda Hamilton swings for the fence (probably hoping for a Sigourney-style Oscar nod) and strikes out miserably. The movie sucks sort of the same way Alien: Resurrection sucked-- playing what was originally fucking scary about the T800 for laughs. Will T3 really be any more ridiculous than "I know now why you cry..."? King Conan is all that can save Arnie at this point.
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U-571 was basically a mindless movie centered on some cool depth charge effects. Breakdown was fairly decent, but only because of the late great J.T. Walsh. Hardly the stuff to qualify for directing T3, but then again, who does qualify? I say let Spike Jonze have a go at it.
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Mar 28, 2001 12:10:50 AM CST
Actually the Olsen twins could play the young Sarah Connor
by troublemaker2000
Those Ashley twins are hot little numbers! Jailbait city right now but in 3.5 years when they turn 18 watch out because they will probably be doing lesbian porno by then! For now we or just me will have to content ourselves with their budding breasts and hot sexy bods. Of course in Kentucky and elsewhere down south and in the midwest and some western states it's actually legal to have sex with a 15 year old, probably 14 is legal in Tennesee and Arkansas and maybe Mississippi. I wonder if Mary Kate and Ashley have Backstreet Boyfriends? I'd be willing to bet they will be sexually active by age 16 at the latest so a couple of you guys reading this may be the lucky boys who get to have them for their very first time. If so please post here in a year and a half to give us all the juicy details!
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Sort of like that peice of shit released a while back; Hanibal?
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I like the idea of T3 but I don't really know if it will get made. I know that T4 could do with out Arnold.
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