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MATRIX 2 tidbit
Hey folks, Harry here with a young Padawan Learner that has heard more about the infamous "Chase scene" in Matrix 2... there is a spoiler here so if you don't want to know... GO AWAY, but mostly it's just one tidbit and some supply info... Enjoy...
As you probably know, Matrix II and III are filming
here in the San Francisco Bay Area, Alameda to be
precise.
A friend was talking to someone who is on the set (to
protect him and his job-you understand). They are
using an abandoned airstrip in Alameda to film chases
and explosions. The movie is getting Porsches and
Ferraris free of charge from the European plants. All
the production has to pay for is shipping. Once done
- even if they were trashed, are sent back.
One item that intrigued me is that this person on the
set mentioned the halving of a ferrari as one of the
scenes.
Will be neat to see what kind of post production
happens to that Ferrari.
A long time fan.
Padawan Learner
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Wachowski brothers have the best job in the world. Not to mention the best agent in the world for pulling such a deal off.
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thats all
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I just want to know if Carrie Anne Moss is returning and if she is part of the filming happening here in the Bay Area. Perhaps she'd like someone to take her out and show her a good time.
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That's plausible.
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YES!!! THIS MOVIE WILL SUCK!!!
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I dont think the boys at Maranello are in the habit of giving out their limited production exotics to be trashed free of charge on a movie set. After all, were the 10-15 F355's trashed during the filming of "The Rock" real?? no. Carefuly built reproductions, nothing more.
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I dont think the boys at Maranello are in the habit of giving out their limited production exotics to be trashed free of charge on a movie set. After all, were the 10-15 F355's trashed during the filming of "The Rock" real?? no. Carefuly built reproductions, nothing more.
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The first rule of chatrooms, and talkbacks, is that the loudest asshole gets heard the most. When this site was new that rule was beaten out by the fans, and harry's, love of movies. Now the asshole's rule. Seriously, can you name one movie that wouldn't get bashed in a talkback. This is the last time I'll post to or read a talkback. Goodbye everyone.
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geee, now i don
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another great idea ruined by corporate fucking america!
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. . . but, "Green Goblin kills board members of Oscorp" is just another little tidbit, right? Sheesh!
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Ah yes, it is the steaming pile of bull excrement I just walked into that had the 'spoiler' warning on it. Porsches & Ferraris in the Matrix? No way. Unless it is some off-the-wall dream sequence, there is no way this fits....the matrix was intentionally portrayed as being devoid of color and life in the first movie....why would they throw in European sports cars to liven it up? And that bit about not having to pay for the cars only further strengthens my lack of belief in this poor article. I think this guy is a year late, this happened for "Gone in 60 seconds" not the Matrix. The sequels will kick ass....as long as Joel Silver keeps his fat ass out of the Wachowski Bros. way!
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I hate all entertainment.
all web pages suck too.
I suck.
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What I'm waiting for is "The Flintstones in Afghanistone!"
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...before glue-sniffin MTV brain-fried clones start claiming all car chase scenes, especially ones in foreign films, are blatant rip-offs of that completely original, holiest of holy action epic, MATRIX SQUARED, not unlike CTHD ripped off the very first film to implement kung-fu with wire work in the history of world cinema, the one and only, holy MATRIX.
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Really. Fucking retards.
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Thats been done to death, racing and crashing sports cars and you pudwhackers think the W-brothers are original. They should have the chase scene in Chevettes or Geo Metros nobody does that. I got it Matrix II:Herbie Rides The Oricales Ass. That VW Bug is a better actor than Keanu. DECEPTICONS FOREVER HA-HA
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Nice try. None of ya know nuthin, and it's just eatin your pathetic asses up.
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Mar 26, 2001 9:56:10 PM CST
Matrix2 will kick Episode2's sorry little *ss! give up Lucas...t
by mooncake
this is gonna rock! there is no way that Lucas can top matrix. all Lucas has is idiotic ideas, he doesnt know how to make awesome movies except to dumb them down to kiddie flicks. matrix will have awesome chase scenes with porsches & ferrari while episode will have another stupid kiddie pod racing again!
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How can all of you people possibly tell how bad a movie this is going to be from the fact that there will be a Ferrari in it? I guess I'm not the cinematic geniuses you are, but I'm gonna have to watch the actual movie before I decide whether it was bad or not. But your method is good too.
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One reason Empire Strikes Back worked is because Star Wars left room for a sequel, most notably with Vader spinning away. Star Wars didn't wrap everything up in a neat package and neither did the first Matrix.
Zion is to The Matrix what The Other was to Empire. This differs from, say, Halloween, where you really have to contrive a lot to justify a sequel. I suspect Matrix 2 will end on a cliffhanger just like Empire did. -
Mar 26, 2001 10:41:51 PM CST
Best Movie EVER to feature a Ferrari=Ferris Bueller's Day Off
by bastardly
As for Matrix, I can predict the chase already. Sean Connery out of nowhere makes a cameo in a humvee, 'I hope you're insured.....Mr. Anderson.' He then knocks a trolly off its tracks which blows up for some reason and cue 360 pan, falls down and slides down hill where Neo is stuck in his crashed Ferrari, he then uses his MAGICAL POWERS to slowly shoot the airbag holding him captive cue slo-mo bullet ripple, he then takes a look behind him for no reason to gander at the trolly again, he will look for 5 seconds and then leap out of the Ferrari just in time, cue 360 slo-mo shot, he stands up cue slo-mo closeup, and then Anthony Micheal Hall on a Kawasaki motorbike says 'You Ferrari is fucked, dude', Neo says, 'Not mine' and hijacks the dudes motorbike in 360 slo-mo even though he can fly. The chase continues for 10 minutes, actually just 30 seconds of realtime but the Whackchowski Hoes feel a need to overuse slo-mo once again, people then file out of the theater, and no, theres no fire or annoying kids. And then the Whackchowski Hoes go back to writing Assasins 2.
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Mar 26, 2001 11:57:26 PM CST
heh, that was one of the cooler spy names I've seen in awhile
by tall_boy
gotta love 'em Star Wars references. ..
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Gotta have dinosaurs tho! -cap'n-
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..if the ability to transfer yourself from one location to another was somehow disabled. Then they would need transport to get around, and being the Matrix they would 'upload' the best shit-hot ass-kicking sports cars in the world. Obviously they are not real Ferraris - just body shells. They do the same deal with the BMWs on the Bond movie. Then all the shlls get returned to the plant after filming.
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He'll pull them all to safety and spread joy to kids around the world, and the Agents will be hopping up and down like a 4 years reaching for the cookie jar. What would really be cool if Neo flies while in a car and you see him lift it from the inside with his back against the roof, and for some reason he'll still be steering the wheel, what a visual, I should direct........porn.
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will kick the shit out of this crappy ''sequel''....i tell you, the matrix was cool, but the 2nd and third film will suck serious ass.
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Maybe someone can explain this to me, but how the hell do you even make the comparison between Matrix and Episode II ??? Is it because you punks are too cheap to spend money on two films, so lets bash one into the ground so we have justification on seeing the other. This is the same fight, debate, discussion, whatever that I hear when there is a Episode II post or Matrix post. They are two totally different movies ! Remember the old "comparing apples and oranges..." your grade school teacher explained to you. It is one of those situations ! Oh, wait I'm sorry I do see a comparison...the special effects. So with all the talk about which film will suck more, it really boils down to which film has the most kick ass effects. A little hint for all you dumbasses in Talkback-land, you've made the film executive's day - "forget about a script, the film geeks love special effects". It's this pointless bickering over which film's effects rule, that just reassures Hollywood to shove out style over substance. And what really blows my mind is both film are not even out yet. Wait till the film come out then trash it if you like. But you look stupid downing a film you haven't seen.
And before this trend continues, do not make comparisons between the Rock and Matrix. You comparing two film which has two scenes with car chases in them, is really childish. And one last point, to whoever said the car chase in Matrix would not fit in he context of the film - HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ??? Tell me, O Film Guru, have you seen the script, talk to anyone on the production...or just some film punk talking out of his ass ! You have no idea about anything else that happens around this scene, but you know for a fact this scene will not fit. Let the swelling of your ego come down a bit and realize the Matrix II will not be using any of YOUR ideas or will not fit your vision of what YOU think it should be. -
Well said, true lie. We all eagerly anticipate BOTH films, so let's allow the filmmakers to do their best to entertain us...and in the meantime, find some other things to occupy our time.
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In fact, if indeed YOU had looked into this a little further, you would know that the story of the matrix is contained within the story/concepts/fantasy in a set of comics. I read them....did you? Sit the fuck down then little boy. John Gaeta and MANY members of the art department on the film have created 2 whole series of comics that are true to the concepts found within the whole Matrix ideology. THEY have read the script. THEY make the films. So in a remote way, yes, I am privy to the production team on the set. Do me a favor, don't come into a Matrix forum and start throwing your weight around until you've done your homework you fucking flaming lamer. And the whole "Guys, don't try to give opinions on movies until you've seen them" postings are SO FUCKING TRITE AND OVERDONE. Give it up, this is a geeky movie forum...for geeks to vent, rave, critique, bitch, fart, burp and whatever about movies.
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You are an idiot.
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Ive gotta agree with both Frog and TrueLie. People shouldn't be debunking movies they haven't seen yet because there is always potential. No one knows what the movie has in store yet, so why pretend like you know exactly whats going on? Don't you think people said the EXACT same thing about terminator 2? Whoa, another Terminator movie, AND its a sequel its destined to suck! Shut up. Watch the movie. On the other hand its totally futile to try to appeal to geeks who just spend all they're time saying "EVERY SINGLE MOVIE EVER MADE SUCKS BECAUSE OF REASONS A,B, AND C!!!". Yes the Matrix is an unoriginal rip off of films like Star Wars, Ghost in the Shell and about every classic John Woo Film ever made. YES its BLATENTLY derivitive of Grant Morrisons comic, The Invisibles (Apacalypstick comes out tomoorow!! WooHoo!!), and the Sandman, and God knows how many others. But for christ sake, EVERYTHING IS A RIP OFF OF EVERYTHING ELSE. There hasn't been a piece of work with an original theme since...shit...since God knows when. Long before now though I can tell you that. I pick apart movies every now and then, hell i make a hobbie of it. But i only tear apart the ones i strongly dislike. usually I and many others can tell whats going to suck before it comes out. Stuff like Dude Wheres my Car. Shit thats a No brainer. But there are movies that actually do have potential. I didnt see a whole bunch of people bitching about Hannibal. Everyone wanted to see what they had done. But of course the second a movie as influential as the Matrix has been (shut up, you know it has), is set to have a sequel come out every geek and his mother's geek brother has to hop on the net and masterbate all over the talk back with they're references and observations. Which I why i really dont read the talk backs anymore. If you dont want to deal with Rabid feral geeks, dont read the talk backs. Just enjoy the news and bitch for yourself. It's totally moronic to argue with people who's opinion you are not going to change and believe me they arent going to change yours. Go ahead, call me a hypocrite for posting this, but I just wanted to say it because ive been wanting to say it for a while.
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You read some comic book and that makes you part of the production team !!! Ha Ha ! That's a good one. But your part of production in a "remote way". What the fuck does that mean ??? I thumbed through an issue of "Wizard", does that mean I'm "on the production team" for the next X-MEN. It must if the only qualification is reading a comic book. Sorry to wake you up from your little fantasy(or wet dream), but something tells me you know jack shit about what going on In Matrix II, in a "remote way" or not. So maybe you "better sit the fuck down"! Listen up Fanboy, just because you read it in some comic book somewhere doesn't mean it's going to be on the screen next summer. Here's a tip for you in case you're not sure how Hollywood works, sometimes things get changed ! Oh...but wait, you knew that already, with you part of the production team...in a "remote way". And for this being a "geeky film forum, where we can rant and rave", your rant fits the bill nicely, hope you didn't mess yourself too much, Froggy fat ass. I'll let you get back to your issue of "Starlog", don't want you to miss anything !
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PDug, thank you for the witty retort.
And Thanks to TrueLie who's longer response didn't contain much substance either. I don't post on here to argue with imbeciles, rather I prefer a well constructed argument complete with points I can debate. Let me first start by educating your feeble mind on what the word "privy" means. Contrary to what they taught you yesterday in Grade 9 General Level English, it does NOT mean "Part of". Privy means "Admitted to knowledge of a secret transaction; secretly cognizant; privately knowing". Thus, to rephrase it so you can properly understand: Because I have read a great deal of material that has sprung from the minds of the production team, I have at the very least, a vague understanding of what sort of thematic elements might be found in the new movie. Better? I swear, they need a separate forum for juveniles in here. As for the rest of your incoherant post, I have clearly instigated some sort of mental episode, and suggest you take a few days off of the internet, and refrain from playing Quake 3. Oh, and also, please try to resist telling me "How Hollywood works" when you know nothing about what I do, and vice-versa. Once we become close chums and share coffee at a trendy little cafe, then it might be ok. PS-This "Starlog" you speak of sounds interesting...where can I pick up a copy? -
Be sure to check today's other Matrix tidbit where this nonsense about the exotic cars is debunked (that means 'to expose the falseness or exaggerated claims of something' just so we are clear this time!). To quote a famous Canadian: "Thanks for coming out"
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First off, thank you Professor Frog ass for my vocabulary lesson. Since you copied it straight from the dictionary(...dork), you saved me the trouble of looking it up.
But now I'm a little confused ? In your second post, it said you read a couple a comic books and now, since you have use the word "privy" to describe your information, you make it sound like you have top secret documents ? What's the deal Froggy, level with us ? And if this was so secret how is it another Talkbacker got hold of this groundbreaking information, without it getting out to everyone else. Same comic book, perhaps ? Are you part of a secret club...or just a friend of yours ??? For all of you in Talkback-land, our friend Froggy here really wants to believe that he is part of something special. He is, one of those cons who thinks he has some world shattering secret that he misread or over heard in a sound byte or something, but he is going to hang onto it as if God himself told him this. Froggy has told us, in his own way, just what important information he knows. So let me cut through the mumbo-jumbo to let you know what a jackass we have here. A quote from Froggy ...VERY LEAST(smallest amount), A VAGUE UNDERSTANDING(that's a step above not knowing at all) OF THEMATIC ELEMENTS(a rough outline, an old treatment, a couple of sketches...or this comic book) MIGHT(possible, but not likely) BE FOUND IN THE MOVIE(things can be changed from script to screen)... These are Froggy's own words folks, from his second post. This is what Froggy passes as "substance". I say it is pretty lame attempt to pump himself up. I knew that from your second post when you started name-dropping that you are phoney. Maybe, you can fool you friends and family with a savvy little statement like that, but I'm not fooled, nor do I think the rest of the Talkbackers are, who read this. Don't come in here and try insult our intellgence, because they are smarter then you give them credit for and you end up looking like dumb turd. As for the Matrix, the car chase has been shot, it has two people who have seen it, despite what your magic comic book predicts. So deal with it Fan boy. Go call your comic book or your "production team" and scream at them for the misinformation, not us. I feel sorry for you Mr. Frog. I don't care who you are or what you do, but people know when you are putting one over them. Sorry to break your ruse. As for the "Starlog" it's inbetween "Highlights" and "Disney Magazine", but I thought you knew that already ? -
First of all, how can I argue with you when you constantly put words in my mouth and distort the meaning of my posts. Let's look at what was originally said here to clear this already dead string up once and for all. I posted first, stating that I doubted the validity of the scoopers statement. When I did this, I didn't ask for your commentary or insight into my personality. If you want to disagree with me, that is great....that's why we are here. But instead, you resorted to the less constructive, and less intelligent slew of insults, calling me "a film punk talking out of his ass". I was giving my opinion, and you flamed me. So Fuck yourself you little bastard. When I talked about substance, I was referring to your arguments having substance, not film information. When I said privy, I meant insight. But you know what? the cars aren't in the movie!!! Go ahead...call me a Fanboy, but look at yesterday and today's Matrix bits....the first dismisses the exotic cars, the second shows PLAIN CARS, WITH GREY AND GREEN COLORS. Hmmmm....seem familiar? Oh, and just to calm you down: I know as much as any other fan of the Matrix series, and never made any claims about secret information. I have a suggestion for you: Join the after school debating club...learn to construct an argument. Then come back and make a stronger attempt, without resorting to insults or twisting my words to fuel your argument. See you around Lamer!
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God! I am so looking forward to the Matrix 2 coming out a the cinema that I'm gonna wet myself when it eventually happens!!!!!!
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I think it's time to bury the hachet on this subject. I know this has gotten way out of hand so give me a chance to explain myself.
I'm growing very intolerant with this site and the people that comment on it. Opinions and critcisms seem to be over shadowed by ignorant and stupid remarks. And one thing I can not stand is someone talking back with no facts to back him up. another rumor is not what we need. If you know the article is wrong, inform us and list a source to verify.
If you just would have stated from the beginning "I read a comic book(the name of it) that this wasn't part of the original vision, blah, blah, blah...I would have left you alone. But slapping a alleged rumor with another rumor isn't the answer. It just makes you look like the sky is falling. The major problem with this site is lack of correct information. If you come in with another statement without any facts to back it up, your going to get slammed. But the thing is you had several chances to reveal your source. Instead you chose to dance around, using worded statments, name dropping and personal attacks. The name of the source would half shut me up and earned you an apology. Instead, you just carried on making yourself look bad. As far as the pictures, I'm not convinced. This site uses bogus pictures all the time. As for the debate team, I was on it, high school and college, and I was damn good at it and judging by the e-mails I received from other Talkbackers, patting me on the back for exposing you as a fraud, I'm still damn good. Here's a tip for the future, if you have some info to share, make sure you have the facts to back it up, if you don't, you look suspect. Peace. -
lets bury the hatchet then. But I should inform you that I never gave anyone the impression that I was fronting some sort of rumor or source, rather I was presenting my own opinion. I am really not sure how you twisted that around to be me 'dropping a new rumor' or witholding a source. As for this bit about other posters 'emailing' you ... well, not that I want to open up another can of worms, but ... if they agreed with you or disagreed with me...why didn't they post? Yes, I find it hard to believe that you were on the debating team, let alone that you even graduated from college...but let's leave it alone for now. I have opinions, and so do you. As long as you don't step on my own personal opinions after I post, I promise to pay you the same courtesy.
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