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Robogeek Reviews SUPERMAN:The Restored & Remastered Director's Cut


When I was seven years old, my parents took me to see SUPERMAN.

And I believed a man could fly.

It - not STAR WARS - is my most potent childhood movie memory. It always has been, and always will be.

To this day, I can vividly recall the entire sensory experience. If I close my eyes, I'm back there, sitting in the middle of a row about two-thirds back. It's dark, and the movie starts... silently, in black and white...

There's the old '70s Warner Bros. logo card... then, the dedication to cinematographer Geoffrey Unsworth (an amazing artist who also shot "A Night To Remember," "Cabaret," and a little film called "2001: A Space Odyssey").

And then - as John Williams' score gently, softly begins - there are the curtains... which part to reveal a movie screen within the movie screen. We hear the sound of a film projector, as a title card appears:


It fades, replaced by a copy of ACTION COMICS, in close-up on a carpet. On the cover, a rocket-ship flees an exploding planet...

A child's hand enters frame, and turns the page. He starts reading...

In this decade of the 1930s,
even the great city of Metropolis
was not spared the ravages
of the world-wide Depression.

In the times of fear and confusion,
the job of informing the public
was the responsibility of the DAILY PLANET...

a great metropolitan newspaper
whose reputation for clarity and truth
had become a symbol of hope
for the city of Metropolis.

The comic book image of the Daily Planet building dissolves into the real thing, and we glide up towards the gleaming globe atop it - then up past it to the moon and beyond...

All of a sudden, the curtains part and fade away, as the old boxy black and white screen expands wide and one of the greatest title sequences in film history starts soaring towards us...

The music builds as we fly backwards through space, words outlined in blue light streaming towards us, until... coming from behind and through us, the giant red-and-gold "S" symbol known around the world burns onto the screen - and I hold my breath. Before it even fades from view, streaks of blue light descend from above us, forming a single word...


...and as it recedes into space, it takes my breath with it.

I love this movie.

I've seen it more times than I can remember. And while I don't quite have it memorized line-by-line, shot-by-shot, it is indelibly etched into my heart and mind for all time.

There are two sequences in particular that get me every time...

From the moment when Clark starts talking to Pa Kent, all the way until he leaves Smallville... absolutely heartbreaking cinematic poetry.

And the helicopter rescue, when Superman first reveals himself to the world... one of the most exhilarating pieces of cinema ever produced.

Since seeing SUPERMAN when it opened, I've seen the extended version that aired on ABC, the widescreen laserdisc (of which I have a well-worn VHS dub), the print struck for the Warner Bros. 75th anniversary touring film fest - you name it. Two days before the sneak, I even TiVo'ed the widescreen presentation on AMC (which is the laserdisc transfer). I have studied - no, scrutinized this film exhaustively over the years.

Therefore, I approached this new restored and remastered director's cut with both reverence and apprehension. I had very high hopes - and very deep fears. Happily, the former was rewarded and the latter was dispelled - both in spades.

Simply put, SUPERMAN has never looked or sounded better - even in my wildest dreams and fondest memories - than it does now. And I can't wait to see it again (and again) this weekend.

I am absolutely astonished by what Richard Donner, producer Michael Thau and their team accomplished (drawing from literally six tons of archival material related to the film), as this new print is so visually and aurally stunning.


First and foremost, let me address something a lot of people have been asking about - namely the new sound mix, which one contributor to this very site had some issues with (based on a pan/scan VHS screener tape). To him, I can only say this: with all due respect, YOU ARE ON CRACK! And you obviously haven't heard the Dolby Digital 5.1 mix in a THX surround theater. The problems you mentioned are either grossly exaggerated or non-existent.

The sound... oh, my GOD, the sound... I still can't believe how incredible this movie sounded - particularly John Williams' score, which felt like it was recorded yesterday. After the main title sequence ended, I wanted to watch it all over again just so I could hear the score one more time. It was exhilarating.

At the screening, I found out from Michael Thau (who produced the restoration, as well as the documentaries that'll be on the DVD - not to mention the condom commercial in "Lethal Weapon 2") that they had in fact recovered the original 6-track 1" masters mixed from John Williams' original 24-track recording of the score - which had long been thought lost - and were hence able to remix the score digitally in Dolby Digital 5.1 surround.

This alone is worth the price of admission, as the results are incredible. The score has never sounded anywhere near this brilliant, vivid, alive. Even last year's superb remastered Rhino 2-CD release of the soundtrack can't begin to compare with this new mix (which, btw, will be an isolated audio track on the DVD). The film's sound mix showcases the score gloriously.

Granted, many new sound effects have been constructed (some sampled from the original mono ones, some built from scratch), but nowhere did I find them jarring - and never did they overwhelm the score. In fact, most of the time I found them inspired. (For instance, during the destruction of Krypton, we now hear sounds of crystal/ice/glass breaking, even when we pass through the debris after the planet explodes - which is more consistent with the production design.)

Here or there, I might have made a couple different choices (for instance, I'll admit they overdo the sound effect on the "Directed by Richard Donner" credit which closes the main titles), but the pros far outweigh the cons. You really feel the sound when you're supposed to - i.e. when Krypton explodes, when the Fortress of Solitude is forged - in ways that just weren't possible in 1978.

Just one example... when Luthor contacts Superman using high frequency, the sound mix places Luthor's voice in the rear, with surround echoes of both him and the signal - thereby putting it all in your head (just like he's in Superman's during this scene). It's a subtle but fantastic attention to detail - and was absolutely impossible to do when the movie was originally made.

Literally, if all there was to this new print was the new digital sound mix, it'd be worth it, so I'd like to take this opportunity to commend supervising sound editor Jay Nierenberg of Sound Storm, along with music editor Bob Garrett, as well as re-recording mixers Steve Pederson (dialogue/music), and Dan Leahy (sound effects), who produced a magical remix at Warner Hollywood Stage D. [NOTE: last two credits corrected since original publication.]

At the same time, I have to express my frustration at Warners publicity, as virtually no information about the restoration - even credits for it - was included in the press packet that was handed out at the screening. (I actually have a lot more frustration to express, but I'll get to it later.)


The newly restored print is jaw-droppingly gorgeous. After the main title sequence, you're almost immediately stunned by the combination of Unsworth's lensing and John Barry's incredible production design for Krypton. And it just gets better when we get to Smallville, which is full of breathtaking shot composition. Afterwards, when revisiting the widescreen laserdisc transfer on my TiVo (recorded off digital cable signal), it looks muted.

Apparently the original negative was exhaustively cleaned (and needed it), and many original optical effects were then reprinted from their original elements. The film was color corrected in four different labs, and new inter-positives were struck. You may remember Superman's costume sometimes looking downright aqua instead of blue. Well, they've fixed it digitally, along with a lot of other things (like any tears or scratches in the negative). Another example, the Krypton scenes now have much better balancing and contrast. [NOTE: a couple technical details in this paragraph have been corrected since original publication.]

I did find out after the screening from Thau that for one shot in particular, they replaced an original element/plate with a new digital effect (because the original had been in bad shape since day one), but I hadn't spotted it. Needless to say, I was impressed (but I'm not going to give it away; see if you can spot it yourself).

Overall, the new print is incredibly sharp and vibrant, revealing details and subtleties that I hadn't been able to appreciate before. Unsworth would be proud.


The new footage has been discussed elsewhere at length, so I won't bore you with all the anal details. It basically amounts to eight minutes, so I'll just run-down the highlights (i.e. most significant additions)...

KRYPTON: There is additional Council discussion after the villains are sent to the Phantom Zone, as well as an extra scene later where the Council sends a Guard to arrest Jor-El (after detecting abnormally/unacceptably high power levels in his quarters). Basically, these serve to accentuate Jor-El's rift with the Council, and the gravity of his defiance. By choosing to save Kal-El, he risks eternal imprisonment in the Phantom Zone (which we learn he discovered) if he's wrong about Krypton's impending doom - or if its destruction doesn't occur soon enough. Personally, I was very happy with their inclusion, as I think they raise the stakes, dramatically-speaking.

SMALLVILLE - The Train: The legendary scene inside the train, where it's revealed the little girl who sees Clark running at super-speed is actually Lois Lane, with cameos by Noel Neill (who played Lois in TV's "The Adventures of Superman" and the Superman serial) and Kirk Alyn (who played Superman in the serial) as her parents. On the one hand, this may look like nothing more than a throwaway tip-of-the-hat, and the performances are admittedly a little weak, but this little scene actually does contribute something key about Lois via her line "nobody ever believes me." (Is this why she becomes a reporter? Because she's been wanting from childhood for people to believe her?)

SMALLVILLE - Ma Kent: This scene surprised me, and is the one I'm on the fence about. To the untrained eye, it may look like a waste of time; backing up from the moment when she sets the table for breakfast and looks out the window at Clark in the distance, we now see Ma Kent come downstairs and basically go through her morning routine - talking to her pet bird, calling Clark down to breakfast, etc. Why is this important? Because it shows that she's okay after the loss of Jonathan. Previously, Clark's departure - just when his mother arguably needs him most - could have been construed as a cold act of abandonment. Now, however, we see that Martha is going to be all right. Still, the insertion of this short scene (or rather, extension of one) breaks up the cinematic poetry of one of my favorite sequences in the movie.

FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE: Now, after Superman's first night of adventures, he returns to the Fortress for a conversation with Jor-El. Overall, I like this scene, because I think it's interesting and offers some new insights (and, well, gives us more Brando - as does the extra Krypton stuff) - and gives us a touching moment at its conclusion. There is one small problem, though, in that it seems to show Jor-El may be the one behind the secret identity idea, not Clark (which begs the question, where'd the Clark persona come from?).

LUTHOR'S LAIR: Probably the scene that'll be of most interest is the long-lost bullets-fire-ice sequence, in which Superman must pass three obstacles on his way to Luthor's lair. It's pretty damn cool, and you'll all likely geek out over it.

There are other tidbits of new/extra footage mixed in here and there (for instance, during the earthquake sequence we see more of Superman under ground - and some Girl Scouts in peril by a collapsing Hollywood sign), but not much worth mentioning. There is one scene I was hoping would be added - namely the one where Superman gets out in front of the first missile in an attempt to catch it, only for it to fly around him. It's kind of cool, and ties into an earlier line of dialogue about the missiles having a new avoidance system, while vaguely plugging the plot hole of why Superman can't outrun the missiles and catch them (though, even still, he should be able to catch them), but that's nitpicky. (And, apparently, the original optical elements of this shot were just in too bad shape, according to Thau; yes, I asked.)

Really, if anything, I kind of wish just a little could have been trimmed from the movie. Personally, I could use less of Otis (who I think is the film's biggest plot hole; why would Luthor tolerate such incompetence?). But what'd I'd really pay money for is to be able to cut the "Can You Read My Mind?" song from the flying sequence entirely. Alas, we can't have everything. ;-)


Following its release on December 15, 1978, SUPERMAN went on to gross $134 million domestic - back when that was real money. Adjusted for inflation, it grossed over $250 million in today's dollars (according to Mr. Showbiz) - a figure exceeded by only five films in the last five years (TITANIC, STAR WARS: EPISODE I, INDEPENDENCE DAY, THE SIXTH SENSE, and HOW THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS).

Think about that for a second.

Now, given that Warners successfully re-released a restored and remastered director's cut of THE EXORCIST last year to a gross of $40 million - and given the excellent trailer (and, I assume, TV spots) they now have for SUPERMAN from Creative Domain - I can't for the life of me imagine why they wouldn't be going all the way with this. (Though they desperately need a new poster; the one they came up with is just... lame.)

What really infuriates me is that the one word-of-mouth sneak Warners held - the first public screening of the new print ever - was half-empty. Why? Well, obviously it wasn't promoted well enough (only one radio station and the daily paper sponsored it, no TV or internet) - and it was held at 6pm on a weekday, which is just insane in this time zone (where sneaks are almost always at 7:30pm). This should have been an event. Instead, it was an insult to the film and everyone who worked so hard on it.

Granted, some of you may be rooting for the San Antonio re-release to fail this weekend, because you want to get your selfish, impatient hands on the DVD sooner rather than later. Not that I entirely blame you, as the DVD is going to be awesome (and include such treasures as Christopher Reeve's original screen test - as well as several actresses' screen tests for the role of Lois Lane, including Stockard Channing's and Anne Archer's).

But wouldn't you like to have your cake and eat it, too? I mean, we've all waited this long for the DVD, why not wait a little longer - and also get the chance to see this film the way it was meant to be seen, on a giant screen, in incredible THX Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, and with an audience?

I mean, seriously, would you have rather not had the chance to see the STAR WARS Special Editions in a theater, and only gotten them on home video? Wouldn't you love to see, say, a restored and remastered RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK on the big screen? Supporting this re-release increases the chances of others. Think about the message you want to send Hollywood - and then send it this weekend.

You'll have the DVD forever. But a chance to re-experience this film in a theater... that's not something you should pass up.

Sitting in that theater last week, I was seven years old again.

And I believed a man could fly.

- Robogeek

P.S.: SUPERMAN opens this Friday at the following seven theaters in San Antonio, Texas...

Regal Alamo Quarry 14 (210-333-3456)
Regal Cielo Vista 18 (210-680-7469)
Regal Live Oak 18 (210-657-4480)
Regal Northwoods 14 (210-333-3456)
AMC Huebner Oaks 24 (210-558-9988)
AMC RiverCenter 9 (210-558-9988)
Cinemark New Braunfels Walnut 6 (830-629-6400)

...all of which you can get directions to online at CitySearch San Antonio.

P.P.S.: Support the Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation - and tell Warners they should contribute a portion of ticket and DVD sales. (It's not just tax-deductible, it's the right thing to do.)

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  • March 20, 2001, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Superman In The UK?

    by iamjohn

  • March 20, 2001, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Awesome report, Robogeek.

    by Dave_F

    I'm really going to try to be in San Antone this weekend to catch the new cut. I saw "Superman" a few years back at Austin's revival theatre, the Paramount, and even that grainy print was amazing on the big screen. There ain't nothin' cooler than hearing that slow build-up of the music during the credits, only to get your ass slammed when the big "S"-symbol explodes onto the screen in all its earth-shaking glory. Very loud, very awe-inspiring, and one of those things that you need the big screen to fully appreciate. And I am so relieved to hear a positive review of the new sound mix. Was really worried about that after the damning review posted previously. Some of the new footage sounds a little "iffy", and while I love the film's epic scope, I never felt it needed to be *longer*...but there's no way I'll miss this over a few questionable scenes. By the way, the reason Luthor has Otis on his payroll is because he's *NOT* a perfect criminal genius, despite his claims. The film plays Superman very straight, but there're plenty of lighter elements, and one of them is Luthor's over-the-top, slightly ineffective pomposity. It's a little tongue-in-cheek, and it makes Luthor all the more menacing when he completely gets the drop on Supes in the end. But I can see why some people don't like it. In the big picture though, small gripes like Otis or the "Can you read my mind" bit are a small price to pay for a film where 90% of the scenes are fantastic. Not just good, or a little better than average, but FANTASTIC. Thanks again for the good word, Robogeek.

  • March 20, 2001, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Superman UK

    by iamjohn

    Even If Superman does get a cinema release in the US, what are the odds that we'll get it in the UK?

  • March 20, 2001, 5:01 a.m. CST


    by xenoforge

    What about Superman II, which was shot back-to-back with the first one?? Will this be restored by Donner as well? bye.

  • March 20, 2001, 5:30 a.m. CST

    I reiterate...DAMN YOU WARNER BROS!

    by XTheCrovvX

    This rerelease sounds awesome...and the fact that they didnt give it the push that it is definitely worthy of just chafes my ass right now....I'm still of the opinion, as well, that they should've released the thing in NYC and LA as well, might've been a much bigger audience....well, maybe not for that reason...probably more because MY greedy hands dont have a DVD player, so my only chance of seeing this thing lies in a theater somewhere down south, 1000 miles away....but ya know what? That's just OK....NYC got the March 30th Akira re-release at the AMC Empire....I'll be just fine with, Warner Bros...not that I'm passing up the merits of Superman I...but damn it, if Superman II doesnt get the same treatment, i'll be forced to go on a serious General Zod sized mayhem spree on the Warner Bros lot.....Revolution is my name...."Come to me, son of Jor-El! Kneel before Zod! Snootchie Bootchies..heeeheeeheee!"

  • March 20, 2001, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Can You Read My MInd is pure poetry

    by keys

    You'rw wrong Harry. It's the reason i love that woman. What other action flick would stick a poem in the middle?

  • This film DEMANDS a full worldwide re-release!! Warner Bros... get off the fucking fence on this issue and sort it out!. X-men and Otis not withstanding Superman is still the best Comic book flick EVER made! I'd love the DVD but I'd love seeing it again on the big screen even more. If this restoration is as good as Robogeek says then that hard work should be seen as it was meant to be, 30ft high and VERY loud!!

  • March 20, 2001, 6:01 a.m. CST

    We'll just be lucky to get the DVD with ALL of its original feat

    by Gabba-UK

    This film DEMANDS a full worldwide re-release!! Warner Bros... get off the fucking fence on this issue and sort it out!. X-men and Otis not withstanding Superman is still the best Comic book flick EVER made! I'd love the DVD but I'd love seeing it again on the big screen even more. If this restoration is as good as Robogeek says then that hard work should be seen as it was meant to be, 30ft high and VERY loud!!

  • March 20, 2001, 6:06 a.m. CST

    What about...

    by Phantom Cruiser

    using the footage from Krypton that was used to open Superman II, where Zod, Non and Ursa sneak into that chamber and break the crystal, which is what leads to their capture in the first place? This was also shot by Richard Donner, and I see as just as important as everytthing else they're putting back in.

  • March 20, 2001, 6:07 a.m. CST



    It's gonna make ya money! It's a REAL family film for Pete's sake. Learn from the EXORCIST. This baby will fly again! New footage? Please! Middle aged Mom's are starting to talk all film savy about widescreen versions, cgi effects and "director's cuts". IF YOU PLAY IT THEY WILL COME! Get your heads out of your butts, come up with a kick ass poster (the trailer already rocks) and start booking screens. By the by, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK is for some reason playing in a $2.00 a seat econo house here in Wichita Kansas - THE PALACE WEST to be exact. It's a decent theater with THX etc. etc. and though I don't know if there's any restoration done to it, the print is VERY clean and looks fantastic - I've seen it twice. Now, without ANY advertising other than the theaters listing in the paper, word is that this thing has been selling half to three quarters full every show. Sure it's cheap seats, and it's Wichita so what else is there to do, but hell, I still say it goes to show that people dig seeing the classics on the big screen. Put an actual push behind it, rather than pussy footing around with a regional release like EXORCIST, and this thing could explode. SUPERMAN is SUPERMAN no matter what age you are and the KIDS (who couldn't go see EXORCIST) WILL ABSOLUTELY go to this baby. A 6 P.M. sneak preview on a weekday? Please, who is trying to sabotage the wide-release on this thing? Fire em and go make some money.

  • March 20, 2001, 6:10 a.m. CST


    by JediCap

  • March 20, 2001, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Please re-release this!!! Worldwide!!!

    by Darth Fart

    Donner didn't shoot the new opening of Superman2 visit for details Please WB, release this, I beg you. I want DOnner's S2 as well.

  • March 20, 2001, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Supes Shield Rings and Margot Kidder

    by Herr_Farbissina

    Did anyone get one of those faux gold signet rings with the Superman Shield on it? That's the most lasting memory for me in the film (I was eight), and we went to see it at the largest (at that time) theater in my area. I wore that little ring for about 4 years, and then lost it (dang). As for the "Read My Mind" sequence, I think they should have digitally recomposited Margot Kidder out of the whole damn movie and substituted ANY of the other recent Lois characters. I would especially love to see Dana Delaney as Lois, since she had such a great voice in the animated series.

  • March 20, 2001, 7:30 a.m. CST

    anyone remember?

    by Uluru

    I seem to remember a scene that played in the TV cut that had Lex Luthor having Miss Tessbacher "walk the plank" into a pit of some unseen creatures, then Supes flies in and saves her. Is this really a scene or am I just smoking crack again? I can't even remember if it was a good scene or not because it was so long ago. If this WAS a scene and isn't in the restored version, maybe I can see it again on the DVD when it comes out?

  • March 20, 2001, 7:53 a.m. CST

    Superman ain't that good...

    by stitch@

    I won't be seeing this "restored" version simply because the one thing that should be fixed, the screenplay, is still intact. The screenplay is simply terrible, saved only by the grand production values (music, sets, photography, etc). The last time I saw Superman on the big screen, every terrible plot point came to the fore and let me tell you, it ain't pretty. Basically, the film is just a series of introductions lined up one after the other until the whole Lex Luther thing finally and unfortunately takes center stage after 3/4 into the very long film. I say unfortunately, because the storyline of Luther wanting to sink California just for real estate reasons is THE LAMEST EXCUSE FOR A MOVIE VILLAIN EVER!!!! So when Superman finally gets to have a cohesive storyline, it's just plain stupid and frustrating because of the MASSIVE set-up that took place during the first 3/4s of the movie. Like I said, the first 3/4s is just a series of intros that work like short films: First, Krypton. Then we are introduced to Brando and the three villains. Then we are introduced to the impending doom of Krypton. Then we're introduced to baby superman. After Krypton is destroyed and superman arrives on earth, we are introduced to superman's adoptive earth parents. Then we're introduced to a teen superman. Then his dad dies. Then we're introduced to the fortress of solitude. Then we're introduced to another scene with Brando's voice and terrible "space" effects. Then we're introduce to a full grown Supes. Then we're introduced to Daily planet. Then we're introduced to Lois Lane. Then we're introduced to Superman making his first public appearance. Then we're introduced to Superman as crime fighter. Then we're introduced to Otis, etc, etc. The film goes on and on like that. Just a series of introductions that set-up the whole world of Superman that takes a huge 3/4s of the movie before any semblance of a storyline emerges. The whole effect is annoying simply because the "intros" are never really fully developed. They just skim over what their scenes are about. And then when the annoying Luther storyline makes a stop to the neverending intros, the action that leads to the missiles and all is wretched. The whole scene with Larry Hagman and the army being deverted by Perrine's breast is embarrassing and boooooooring. Then Perrine saves Supes because her mother lives in one of the town where one of the missile is headed. LAME!!! And then when California suddenly starts sinking (yeah, right), we see yet another series of short moments of people in peril, which includes the ridiculous idea of killing off Lois Lane and having Superman spin around the earth to turn back time, which doesn't make one iota of sense, even in the world of sci-fi/fantasy comic books. Anyway, you get my point here. No matter how much digital thinkering they can do with Superman, the terrible, nonsensical screenplay by Mario Puzo and company will always prevent this movie from becoming the classic everyone thinks it is.

  • March 20, 2001, 8:06 a.m. CST

    WB: Give this film the wide release it deserves

    by T. Earl Grey

    Excellent review, Robogeek. I, too, vividly remember everything about seeing this film for the first time back in '78. The thought of seeing it again on the big screen brings tears to my eyes. If anybody at AOLTimeWarner is reading, please believe me when I say this: I've already pre-ordered the DVD. You've got my cash for that. If Superman gets the wide theatrical release that it deserves, I will go see it. I'll see it with my girlfriend so that I might share this incredible film with her. I will go again, taking my niece and nephew, so that they can have the same thrill that I had when I was eight. I will go with all my late-twenty/early-thirtysomething buddies so that we can relive our childhoods together. And I will go alone, so that I can bask in the wonder and glory of this movie. You will make buckets of money. You will generate immense amounts of goodwill from the fans. You will lay the groundwork and create demand for a new set of Superman films. And you will make several generations of movie fans very, very happy.

  • March 20, 2001, 8:09 a.m. CST

    Trading cards... anyone else have these?

    by Jaesyn

  • March 20, 2001, 8:11 a.m. CST

    (^&*$(@!# IE forms...

    by Jaesyn

    Sorry. Stoopid browser. As I was saying... does anyone else have the trading cards you could get when the movie first came out? I must have 150 of them, nearly a complete set, (many duplicates). They include scenes that until now I've never had a chance to see... they're the re-included ones. I've been telling people about the walking through fire scene since I was a kid, and "no one ever believes me". Quite cool. The backs either had movie info or pieces of a larger poster sized picture.

  • March 20, 2001, 8:14 a.m. CST

    Batman is Better

    by Filmjester

    Just had to point out the facts!

  • March 20, 2001, 8:23 a.m. CST

    To the morons slamming Superman

    by Indo

    Some of you people that slam Superman and dubb Reeve a bad actor don't have a f**king clue what a good movie even is. I bet you sit at your TV believing that a complete untalented actor like Dean Cain was Superman. Some of the posts I have read here slamming Superman are so pathetic, no wonder no one responded to them. Reeve was Superman. His acting ability in that role was second to none. There was f**k all wrong with the plot, nor Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor. I often feel films like Batman to be quite dark in comparison to classics like Superman which is up there as the all time number 1 comic book adaptation ever. To the user, stating that Richard Donner did not film the beginning of Superman II, he did film parts of it, but it was modified. Lester filmed the guard having his neck broken, but the actual trail scene was shot by Donner with modified voiceovers by Lester. Concerning the babies scenes, they will feature in the deleted scenes section of the DVD, but not in the Special Edition. Thank God, they are awful scenes. Warner, get off your asses and release this film world wide!

  • March 20, 2001, 8:40 a.m. CST


    by snorky

    Superman is easily the best superhero movie ever made and is one of the most visually stunning ever photographed.If WB drop the ball on this one,they'll need their arses kicking.RELEASE IT WORLDWIDE,YOU PUDKNOCKERS!!!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:02 a.m. CST

    To hell with Donner! I wanna see Sidney J Furie's director's cut

    by Marty McSuperfly

    Just kidding.

  • March 20, 2001, 9:04 a.m. CST

    I saw a 70mm print a few years back, and that looked and sounded

    by Batutta

    Supes rules! Every Batman sucks!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:10 a.m. CST

    "Think about the message you wanna send Hollywood, send it this

    by Salem Hanna

    You know what? Superman's cool. And the first sequel was beyond awesome. So what? Do you really, really, REALLY want Hollywood to solve the bad movies problem by re-releasing the old stuff all over again, instead of taking risks with new stuff? I'm all for classics being shown as MATINEES and appreciated by modern audiences. As a 21 year old, I saw The Magnificent Seven for the first time ever a few months ago and loved it. But what I want is ace NEW movies. I don't want an A-list filmaker thinking he can satisfy his fans by helping remaster his original masterpieces, I want to see such talent have that kind of influence on new generations with new works of genius. You wanna send a message to Hollywood? Avoid bad movies. That's all you need to do, and you can do that at any theatre on any weekend in your life.

  • March 20, 2001, 9:25 a.m. CST

    I'm in pain!

    by Hardyboy

    The restored version probably won't be coming to my corner of the country any time soon, and I'm waiting until I can buy a huge-ass TV before I get a DVD player, so reading this review just made me weep. I was 11 or 12 when the film came out, and I LOVED it. Yeah, once Lex Luthor enters the film the quality goes rapidly downhill, but has any superhero movie EVER done a better job of capturing the mythology and awesomeness of the original comic book? Keep Tim Burton's cynical, nihilistic Batman flicks. . .Chris Reeves' Superman is still the greatest superhero on screen!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Star Wars vs Superman

    by 8-Track

    Back in the day, around New Years 1979, the newspaper in my area had a column featuring what was 'in' and what was 'out' for the new year. They listed Star Wars as OUT and Superman as IN. Even back then, I thought 'Yeah, right.' I've seen some boring, dud films before, but what could be likeable about a grown man dressed up in that ridiculous BLUE suit? Flying around with his arm punched out. Was Lois supposed to be attractive? She always sounded like she smoked too many cigarettes. How about that ice chamber set? I kept expecting to see that boxy robot from Logan's Run to show up and start yelling. I must admit I was surprised that people went to see it and all of its sequels. Boooring.

  • March 20, 2001, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I can wait for DVD

    by Clavius

    I wholeheartedly agree that this film DESERVES a full-out nationwide theatrical re-release. I am a HUGE DVD nut and have been anxiously awaiting this disc for a while. But I would be more than happy to wait a little while longer for the disc if it meant I could see this awesome film on the big screen one more time! Warners, don't screw this one up!!!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Is It Just Me Or Am I The Only One Who Has Noticed That........

    by RightWing Dude

    Really awful things happen to men who play Superman? Be careful Dean Cain! I'll be purchasing the 1st 2 Superman films but anyone who purchases copies of III & IV is f---ing nuts!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:41 a.m. CST SUCKS!

    by Jaka

    OK, so I'll admit I am way too tired and cranky. BUT, if you are going to constantly post this damn link with the obvious desire for people to go there and check it out, then I am assuming you want some feedback. Here it is: Give it up. Dont quit your day job. If it is your day job, seek new employment. I honestly do not mean to insult...Chewie, but the site needs some more work before you start pushing it so hard. But hell, that's just on ardvaarks opinion.

  • March 20, 2001, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Also, Would CGI Technology Allow Warner Bros To.......

    by RightWing Dude

    Superimpose F.P.O.A. (fine piece of ass) Terri Hatcher over the face & body of Margot Kidder? Just wondering! Lucas did something similar to Jabba the Hut in STAR WARS so it's not completely out of the question! It would make for a better movie experience!

  • March 20, 2001, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Screw the DVD. I want Superman on the Big Screen, baby!

    by SilentBob X

    I can wait a while for the DVD to come out. But seeing Superman on the big screen is an experience that must be seen to be believed. This movie was better than Star Wars and I still stand by that statement today. WB should re-release the first two Superman movies only, though. 3 and 4 sucked mightily just like the last two Batman flicks(ironic, eh?) I don't want to see Richard Pryor mugging for the camera or the insipid 'Nuclear Man'. Mark my words: The Superman re-release would earn over 100 million at the box office. Ditto Superman II. Snoogans.

  • March 20, 2001, 10:05 a.m. CST


    by Grimjack99

    So some people liked the movie, and some people didn't. Wow, how cliche. I mean, that's almost predictable, in a way. COME ON PEOPLE!! Okay, it probably took me longer than most people to figure this one out, but you realize that not everyone is going to share your opinion. Not only that, but they might very well slam you for having a different opinion from theirs. NOT an earth-shattering (or Krypton-shattering, for that matter) revelation, but a valid one nonetheless. Everyone who liked the movie and can't wait for it either in a theater or on DVD...COOL! I'm SO WITH YOU! Those of you who don't see a point to this film or why people get excited about it, no problem, I'm sure there are films you like that other people have problems with as well. If you can't see or understand that, then more's the pity. Go enjoy what you like, and we'll go and geek out to what we like.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:09 a.m. CST


    by foreverguardian

    This review has sent me into Superman overdrive. Damn I WANT THIS DVD!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes it really is better to revisit the classics rather than rant about the latest hot thing. Roll on Supes 2 and 3 restored versions! (But not 4...God, please not 4...)

  • March 20, 2001, 11:20 a.m. CST

    This is fun...

    by foreverguardian

    Damn I love being a geek.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:46 a.m. CST

    my nitpick of the day for AICN contributors

    by simian

    Robogeek, the expression is not "But wouldn't you like to have your cake and eat it, too?" its "Eat your cake and have it too." If you have cake, of course you can eat it. However if you eat cake, you can no longer have it. Got it? You might have been asleep that day in Freshman English, which is okay, a lot of people were.

  • March 20, 2001, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I will own this DVD.

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    That's all I've got to say. Well, that and the fact that if they want to make a new Superman movie, they really need to try and recapture the magic of the first.

  • March 20, 2001, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Where the fuck is Seattle?!

    by Jopapa

    They better not bilk us up here in the Northwest, cause I wanna see it at the Cinerama!

  • March 20, 2001, 12:57 p.m. CST


    by GMitus

    Oh Jesus. I think I'm gonna crap my pants. My entire body literally aches with the thought that I'll have to wait two months to get the Superman DVD and even worse that I can't see it in San Antonio this weekend. I know we've all seen the movie hundreds of thousands of times...but this is the first movie that I actually thought was awe-inspiring. I can't wait to see Superman in his blue uniform (as opposed to the green one they gave Chris Reeves to wear while filming...being sarcastic), and to see Superman look like he is actually flying and not being hung by cables in front of a movie backdrop. I can't wait. Now if they could only give the same treatment to Ghosbusters...

  • March 20, 2001, 1:11 p.m. CST

    what a waste of time!!

    by shinji22

    I have no idea why WB would put any more money into that steaming pile of crap called Superman. The movie is a treavisty and should be blocked from ever be seen again. I went to the premiere and the theater wasn't even halfway full, including the press section! I wanted to get up and leave not even half way through the movie. I don't remember seeing it as a kid, and now I know why. Lex is a loser?!? Superman spends all his time hitting on Louis?!? His dad dies!?!?! Not to mention the one piece PJ superman suit. God, it was awful. Anyone with dignity should not see this movie. Ever.

  • March 20, 2001, 1:25 p.m. CST

    The Superman Theme is My third Favourite of all time.

    by Roborob

    The Top two are also bye John Williams; The Imperial March from Empire and Dual of the Fates from Ep1. But as I am British I'll probably just have to make do with a second rate DVD release when anyone with a brain unlike that twit above me, Would love to see Superman on the Big Screen Again.

  • March 20, 2001, 1:40 p.m. CST

    jst20012001 is an assbag!

    by GMitus

    You sir, are a donkey raping cockmaster! I agree with Kevin PhillipsBong. Jst20012001 has some serious unchecked anger at Superman, Chris Reeves and Fanboys in general. I am not a Fanboy, but I have respect and tolerance for anyone and anything...except intolerant's that for ironic? JST20012001 should not have anything personal against Mr. Reeves unless he personally raped and murdered your entire family. And I got news for you, you shit eating monkey ass-fucker. Your uncle, the big hero that he is, would never condone that kind of intolerance and anger towards others...and if he does, then he's an even bigger sister-raping retard than you are!!! bottom line is, the kind of hate and intolerance that you harbor towards Fanboys is seriously misplaced and if you continue to behave in this fashion...I have a song for you to listen to. It's called Role Model by Eminem. there is a line in it that says "I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree." Maybe you should heed his advice. For the rest of you boner-biting bastard uncle-fuckers, if you don't like Superman or the movie...ignore it. You're mindless attention could probably be more ineffective somewhere else. VIVA SUPERMAN!!! P.S. I totally understand the irony in bitching out these low-lifes for Superman...the purest Ideal. It's kinda like waging wars in Jesus' name. But, sometimes the trash needs to be taken out. BTW...Thanks to South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut for the endless uses of slurs.

  • March 20, 2001, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Heh heh, someone was shocked because Clark Kent's dad died!

    by Dave_F

    News for ya, pally: that was part of Superman continuity for nearly fifty years. FIFTY YEARS. Not until the mid-80's did they revamp Superman and rewrite his history so his foster parents lived. Damn kids got no sense of history! Why in my day... Anyway, my suggestion to the Superman fans is to stop arguing with all these blatant trolls trying to tear down such a kick-ass movie. My favorite's the psychology major who's so proud of his ability to love. Is that the same guy who called fans of the film "fucking idiots"? The same guy who called us "stupid fanboy geeks"? Who described the movie as "crap+crap+crap"? Seriously, JST, I'm happy you seem to have a strong family, but try showing a little humanity outside that circle, eh? If you come to a cult internet site that specializes in genre films and proceed to trash one of the great ones, along with fans of it, don't be surprised if we don't take kindly to it. I don't excuse GMitus' vulgar rant against you, but re-read your own first post, JST. You wanted to antagonize people - don't pretend otherwise. As a psych major, you should be able to analyze your own motivations a bit. Anyway, ignore the trolls, Superman-fans. We know the movie rocks, we know the movie captures the pure heroism of the comic beautifully. No need to get inflammatory with a small handful of naysayers.

  • March 20, 2001, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Yo 'J.....

    by JonQuixote

    You make fun of Chris Reeve's accident, you call names and profanity, and you sit mightily upon your high horse and look down at those around you, and you have the AUDACITY to lecture about Love?? Maybe you grew up in a loving family, but they sure didn't teach you anything about the concept. Or perhaps you're just deep in denial...why, if you are so well adjusted, would you feel the need to log on here and make fun of others and put down people who have little-to-no relevance in your life? It is also with a heavy heart that I stare into the possibility of a bitter, ignorant, and self-righteous little man actually becoming an educator and healer.

  • March 20, 2001, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Sorry Jst20012001

    by GMitus

    Sorry buddy, but do you think that I'm attacking you b/c you're black? Is that the excuse you use to cop out of a highly offensive remark you made? Don't try to bring race and racism into a conversation that didn't warrant it in the first place. My girlfriend is black and she, who read your first remark and your second, wholeheartedly agrees that you have no love for anything. You have no compassion for a man who, despite the fact that he is rich, has suffered a debilitating injury. Does it mean nothing to you that he's using his fame and wealth to eradicate the injury for those who can't do it themselves? Chris Reeves is no god and neither is Superman...but neither are you. I do not care that you are black. I do not care that you are married. I do not care that your wife is pregnant. I do not care about any of these things for they mean nothing in this particular discussion. If you want to have a serious intellectual discussion, then I'm sure you will be more than surprised at how smart we "geekoids" can be. But you only want to attack and berate (BTW, I sincerely apologize for calling you a donkey raping cockmaster. It was unwarranted anger) then fine, you may wallow in your ignorance. From now on, leave your baggage at the door, we "geekoids" don't want to hear about it. And for someone who doesn't own a TV, you spend a lot of wasted time trying to "call out" fanboys for their faults. Why don't you work on fixing your own before you help others. And Davis and Coltrane hold not a single candle to Thelonius Monk and Reinhardt. Get with the program, Jst20012001. You got a lot of thinking to do.

  • March 20, 2001, 3:07 p.m. CST

    I apologize

    by GMitus

    For those who didn't read my last talk-back to Jst20012001, I sincerely and whole-heartedly apologize for my vulgarities. I am not a mean nor an angry person and I am truly sorry to those I have offended...including Jst20012001. Sometimes my "geekhead" tendencies get the better of me and I can't control my rants. are correct sir. It was unwarranted unchecked anger. Once again, I am sorry to all.

  • March 20, 2001, 3:27 p.m. CST

    repetition repetition repetition

    by JonQuixote

    Damn, missed Cormy's fighting-the-good-fight post. Pretty much said everything I said (and almost as well as me too, good job Corm!). Oh well, I'm used to being redundant. And superfluous. And unnecessary...

  • March 20, 2001, 3:37 p.m. CST

    What perfect timing.

    by Dave_F

    Right as a few Talkbackers are actually taking pains to point out what a hypocrite JST is, he posts an out-of-the-blue diatribe against Spielberg! Spielberg, who has nothing to do with "Superman" or anything we've been talking about! Not once in this entire Talkback has Spielberg even been mentioned! My god, what better evidence could you ask for that JST's an angry man desperately spoiling for a fight? Racial injustice is and will always remain one of the most relevant topics in the world, but to begin ranting about it in the middle of a bulletin board discussing the reissue of a Superman movie is patently absurd.

  • March 20, 2001, 3:42 p.m. CST

    To jst20012001

    by Bad Guy

    You don't own a TV or a DVD player, but you own a computer. And you use that computer to go to movie fan websites and insult a movie that most of us here love. You call fans of this film idiots and you call Chris Reeve a dunce for having a paralyzing accident. Dude, you really need to check yourself and direct that anger somewhere else. Peace.

  • March 20, 2001, 3:49 p.m. CST

    To The nutcases - Yes they know eachother!

    by Indo

    Some of you guys who are so F**ked up are unreal! Go get laid or something! Superman The Movie is the best comic book adaptation EVER! NOT BTAMAN (which I have to admit I like the first 2 films)!!! Some of these people have a lack of brain cells or something! I would normally respond more mature, but to these guys that slam Superman, the less said the better!

  • March 20, 2001, 4:04 p.m. CST

    While this fine film gets shafted by WB, $10 says that they'll t

    by KingKrypton

    No matter. This is still the best comic book movie ever, as well as one of the best movies of all time. Count me in for the DVD. There's no way that I want to miss seeing the true Superman in action again.

  • March 20, 2001, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Stir it up. . .little darlin', stir it up. . . (A post where Vil

    by Village Idiot

    **Sniff-sniff!* I think I smell a bit of rabble-rousing for the sake of rabble-rousing going on. Some people just like to stir up a little brouhaha to get their kicks. The only one of the three negative guys who seemed to have some serious criticism beyond the "It's shit!" variety was the guy who complained that "everything was intro." Well, yeah, the movie is actually a biopic, and episodic development (where you are introduced to things gradually rather than blatantly told via awkward exposition) is perfectly effective way of telling that kind of story. It worked. ***** Beyond that, if people want to slam Superman, I say let them. Not to sound trite, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even wrong ones (i.e., ones that don't agree with mine). Most of the dissenters sound like their just trying to stir things up rather than exchange ideas, and it's really not worth arguing with them in the first place. I think they're beyond even Cormorant's help (and that's really saying something). As for the ones who just don't like the movie, well, as my Uncle Zeno used to say, there are some people that don't like chocolate. (And I ask you, HOW many times have you heard this kind of Kum-Bay-Ya, Can't-we-all-just-get-along?, everybody-has-an-opinion, I'm-above-the-fray Talkback lecture? Ah heck, I know it's cliched, but I still mean it.)

  • March 20, 2001, 7:47 p.m. CST

    speaking of re-releases

    by Studio Snitch

    What about "Lawrence of Arabia"? Come on Amy...hit a hommer for Sony and re-release the greatest epic Tinseltown ever put out. You already have the fancy 70mm print, and a DVD is on the way...why not tap into that extra promotional & revenue source?

  • March 20, 2001, 8:08 p.m. CST

    As good a Superman as you could get.

    by superninja

    Besides in the animated world. Just looking at the state of the other proposed Superman projects makes me grateful for Donner's version, even though I could do without the car-salesman Luthor and the "can you read my mind?" Lois monologue. Chris Reeves WAS Superman. He had all of the charisma and farmboy charm that make the character intersesting in the first place. But I will always prefer Luthor as a giant of a man and the Kents both alive and well when Supes heads to Metropolis. Especially in the animated series, it helped us to see where Clark had come from, and both parents had a great sense of humor about them and a warm relationship that made them extremely likeable.

  • The original Superman is one of my all-time favorite films - and like Robogeek, it's a pivtoal movie-going experience for me that rates higher on a personal level than Star Wars. However, my stomach turned more than a few times while watching this revamped Superman: The Movie. I will say that I was seeing this on a VHS pan and scan screener copy so the conditions as far as sound, etc. were not optimal. However, the earlier contributor who also saw the VHS and mentioned his displeasure with the new sound effects during the title sequence - basically "whoosing" sounds that accompany each credit - he was absolutely dead on. This is SO annoying. For long time fans of the movie knowing it as it was, these sound effects will drive you up a frigging wall. But the worst aspect of this new edition is the Fortress of Solitude scene that follows Supes first big night in Metropolis. It SUCKS. It totally distrupts the flow of the film, and it takes away from the idea that Superman went to Metropolis with his mission fully in mind. Not to mention the fact that it's just an awkward scene all around. I defy anyone not to cringe when Superman tries to "hug" the image of Jor-el. Now, more than ever, I HATE SPECIAL EDITIONS!! All the new scenes we see in Superman: The Movie would've been fantastic to see - but as supplements on the DVD. I'd love to be able to see what had been cut from the film but I think it's time that studios and filmmakers stop feeling as though the only way to make these classics viable to a new generation is to shoehorn previously - and wisely - deleted footage into films that were already perfect without them. I had been looking forward to picking up my favorite comic book adapatation on DVD but now I have serious doubts. At least Superman II will still be the film I remember. As for JST - or whatever his name is - if his postings were a put-on, then that's fine (if misguided). But if any of that was for real, this is a person who doesn't even know what a hateful ass they are.

  • March 20, 2001, 8:56 p.m. CST

    For the love of God, release Superman nationally!

    by ar42

    Superman is a gaping hole in my cinematic vocabulary as a film geek. I've never seen it, not even when I was a kid. Ever since I heard rumors last year of the resoration/re-release, I've been hoping that I'd be able to see it for the first time on the big screen. Seriously -- how many more people would go see "Superman" than "The Exorcist?" And I'm all for re-releases.... there's hundreds of films I would kill to see on a big screen. Raiders of the Lost Ark, Tron, 2001 (hopefully soon!), Alien or Aliens, Apocalypse Now. Have a major rerelease in theaters every weekend, and movies like "See Spot Run" will stop making money...

  • March 20, 2001, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Excellent report Robogeek

    by TheGinger Twit

    Like every kid born and raised in the late 70's early 80's, there was star wars and Superman. Superman is the one i remember more so than star wars. I drove my parents mad by always haveing the video on and always having the soundtrack record playing at full volume. Y'know, I still do that too. Dreaded was the day that superman 2 was released. Needless to say, Superman will always have a large section of my heart ... and Richard Donner, the bane of my parents existance. PS. Such a shame it wont be released here in australian cinema's.

  • March 20, 2001, 10:14 p.m. CST


    by superninja

    Anger issues with women, hmmmm?

  • March 20, 2001, 10:31 p.m. CST

    1/2 empty screening...

    by Lemonator

    Robogeek finds many reasons to blame Warners why the "word-of-mouth sneak preview" was only half full... Could it have been because there was a rerun of America's Funniest Home Videos on TV? Maybe an old episode of the Simpsons? Maybe they should have opened the screening to the homeless so they'd have a compfy place to sleep for two hours. The extra footage could give them some bonus REMs. This film made me know for sure that a man can't fly unless he's surrounded by a magical blue screen aura. Whooooo.

  • March 20, 2001, 10:55 p.m. CST

    It's alls I can stand, cause I can't stand no more!

    by Village Idiot

    Ok, superninja, look: Superman the Animated Series is great. I like it, I really do. In fact, my grades are probably suffering from my insistence on watching it while I should be studying. But YOU ARE WARPING REALITY MORE THAN EMPEROR JOKER (my god, I'm such a geek) IF YOU HONESTLT BELIEVE THAT THE CARTOON IS BETTER THAN THE MOVIE. The movie is rich in thematic value and emotional depth; as for the cartoon, you'll find more depth in a very special Saved By The Bell episode. The movie is breathtaking in scope and extravaganza; the cartoon is pretty cool *for a half-hour animated story.* In the movie, Superman's chin does not comprise 2/3 of his face; in the cartoon, well, judge for yourself. I could go on, but why bother?: I think I've made my point. The only thing left to say now is KNEEL BEFORE VILLAGE IDIOT! (That just doesn't have the right ring, does it?)

  • March 20, 2001, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by superninja

    Booya! I like TAS better. I know the movie has those, ahem, stand-alone moments of epic greatness, but I still prefer the characterization in the cartoon, not to mention I like his parents better, I like his origin better, I like Lois and Luthor better. Granted, the movie has to tell it in one shot, but if I think about Superman, I think about the Animated Series, big chin and all. Cormorant and I have gone round-about on this many times before, and the fact is that animation is the perfect medium to translate comics because anything is possible. It's not hindered by the technology available at the time. I'm not saying Superman isn't a good film, but animation does it better justice. It's like apples and oranges, baby...

  • March 20, 2001, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Don't know why people are ignoring the obvious...

    by Shaft9876

    The film should be re-released with a portion of the proceeds going to Reeve's charity. Whether out of sympathy, duty, or wanting to see the film, people WOULD go see it. As for the movie itself- the point of it, if there is one, is in the way in which the cynical modern public of Metropolis reacts to and interacts with a man who is pure good. In that sense the film, for all its' faults, may be as relevant today as it was when it was released, maybe even moreso.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:11 p.m. CST

    I Want A New Superman Movie AndI Want It Now!!!!!

    by The Founder

    How long do we have to wait until WB pulls their heads out of their asses and get a new Supes movie up and running? I tired of all the rumors tired tired tired.Why can't they get on the ball? At any rate I hope they put together an a-list creative team for a new Supes movie.I liked the oringal as well as the second, but speaking from someone who's been reading the comics since the Death of Superman storyline I find the Movies to be badly inaccurate at times and at some points silly(the Supes turns back time thing blew it for me), but for what its worth they are still great movies, its just when I see them I have to put aside my knoledge from the comics.The cartoons on the WB was the best Superman stories on any screen, well at least to me.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Speaking Of The Nuclear Bomb Scene........

    by The Founder

    to my understanding Krypton was lightyears away from Earth right? So can someone please tell me how in the hell a nuclear bomb detonating a little out of eatrh's orbit can free the villians that was put in the Phamtom zone on Krypton?Maybe I missed something in the movie, but I don't remember how this was supposed to be logical.It has been a while since I've seen part II, but just don't recall how this event was possiable.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:29 p.m. CST

    We All Know The WB Is GoingTo F%ck Up A Superman Movie So Why No

    by The Founder

    rated R "AUTHORITY" movie.Get Warren Ellis and Mark Miller to write the story and have a good screenwriter adapt it for the big screen, and by the grace of God either Ridley Scott or Paul Verhoven(spellcheck)to direct.I smell hit all over this idea.

  • March 20, 2001, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Forget the nuclear bomb...

    by Shaft9876

    What's even more unbelieveable about Superman II is that it was a big-budget Hollywood movie that portrayed a President made to look like Reagan who behaved in the noble and "Presidential" manner befitting an American President of any party, for no other reason than Reagan was President at the time. Just think about that for a minute. No propaganda, no sleaze, no bitter cynicism- just hopefulness and dignity. That's what they used to give kids...then in the 90s they took it all away and raped it. Fuck the baby boomers. Ok, I'm done.

  • March 21, 2001, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Superman 3 Remaster In the works......Not

    by Paul Allen Voiq

    NOT. Sorry Just Joking I liked Superman4 But I was on a heavy Acid Trip at the Time so I thought it was as it should have been.(Being stoned out of my mind) OK SUPERMAN I liked this film very much and i have seen all the versions over the years so the "New" Bits are not new at that. Just finally placed where they should be. Know-one will ever know my joy that this made The Big screen again before the Remake That was based on that crappy Kevin Smith Script. Im Sorry Dude I like Nick Cage Too But Superman? Don't see it. Kevin Spacy as LEX Hmmmm. Anyways The point of this is someone mentioned earlier they should make original scripts. I AGREE 100% But Come on for its time And For Now... This Film Stands up. I still Get Chills when I catch a bit on the boob-tube now and again on a sunday afternoon. And I can see remaking a film if The first had no budget and was 30 years old or a silent film,But come on. I would rather see Remastered Hits Than Remakes.And Don't Worry About a trend. A Re-release at a rate of 1 or 2 a year with limited release is hardly a threat to Masters Like "Bless This Child"(I hated that one so much i got a refund at the video store) Rocky and Bullwinkle Anyone? Hey I guess the kids still need an all ages film they can watch on crack. lol Ok Im not trying to get too off topic. On the comments made By 10101011 or whatever Do you Believe Mr.. Reeves Somehow is doing as well as he is after that crappy accident because he's Superman? Smoke some more weed. I think he'd be a hero if he was never in that film ( I kind of liked him in "somewhere in time") He is Lucky he is not in an Iron Lung. Most who have had the damage he has sustained never leave the fucking house and are depressed most of there lives and look a damm site worse. I think Its a blessing if he can raise the Self-respect of those who feel helpless and worthless. and I am sorry for you if you cannot see that. Compassion is a rare trait (sadly) I find in The Industry. (Trust Me) Giving a public face to help lend the inspiration too grow for others who are going through the same situation. I would not wish that horrible accident on anyone. He was a gentleman Before The Accident and he has shown his insides by remaining a gentleman and Leader too this day. He does not have too Be an activist, ITS HARD ENOUGH to get on with his day im sure. Im not Saying ether that he should be pitied or praised more than others. A lot of people are always saying about diseases and causes " Oh no-one cared until what's his name got sick" And? An Illness Is better before an influential spokesperson raises money for the cause? This makes him worthy of ridicule ? Because? Sorry I don't get where your anger comes from. Enough of that.. THE DVD THING OK So I hear a lot of people who want the "new" Stuff in the movie and I hear a lot of people who want it in the supplementary section. With DVDS Can't they just add an option that lets you see the two versions of the movie,thus making everybody happy? I think they have done this before. How About A Double Box With a remastered Superman 2 Cool...: But that might be a tad pricey. BUT FORSURE DO THE IN/OUT OPTION. DVD GODS!!! MAKE THIS A STANDARD... AND MORE EASTER EGGS!!!!- Thank you for reading my post. SUPERMAN CAN YOU HEAR ME!!!!!!!

  • March 21, 2001, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Like Superman? Read the COMICS!!!

    by TallScott

    Hey Supergeeks you should really check out the new SUPERMAN comics they totaly rock! In SUPERMAN it is written by Commando screenwriter Jeph Loeb and art is by the the freshest new artist Mike Mcgenis and over in ACTION comics is written by Deadpool scribe Joe Kelly ( Issue 775 is a MUST READ where Supes takes on a superteam that kills to get results and superman goes to scary extreames to stop them) and im SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL it is written by Cadilacs and Dinasours ( Great book!)Artist/ writer Mark Shultz and drawn by THE MASK Artist/co-creator Doug Manke And in the Adventures of Superman X-Men Writer Joe Casy is starting to turn out some good stuff..Then go back and read the Emperor Joker saga and the Braniac 13 storyline ( where Luthor gives up his baby to brainiac!!) Now they revised Krypton, Krypto is back and they have something very cool planned for summer ( Zod, darksied and the other heavy villans attack earth) AND LEX LUTHOR IS PRESIDENT! .Check it out! And comics is not for kids to all you Anti-geeks out there read Alan Moores WATCHMEN or Jimmy Corrigan to see why Side Note: Alan Moore wrote 2 of the best Superman stories ever with " What ever happened to the man of tomorrow" The last pre-crisis superman story and " For the man who has everything" in a Superman annual ( I forget what number)

  • March 21, 2001, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Actually, I'd like to see an Authority movie myself. . .

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    . . .as long as they followed it up with a Superman epic--based on Action #775--where he takes the murdering, fascist bastards down for good. As for the comic, I'm gonna start reading it again, and if the next few issues are as good as the last I'll subscribe. It'll be the first time I've subscribed to an American comic in over a decade. I've been nothing but anime/manga and independants (Maus, Castle Waiting, etc.) throughout the 90's because until very recently most superhero comics have blown donkey, to say the least. Somehow it's fitting. . .that only the Man of Steel could bring me back home to DC. *Sniff.*

  • March 21, 2001, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Gahhhh! I am a Tard!

    by TallScott

    Sorry thats what I get for getting a ride home from work with my Rasta Co-Workers. Ire! Its ED MaGuiness who draws for SUPERMAN...Read it! Sorry about that..

  • Originally they were going to be filmed and released back-to-back. Extrinsic problems, including a forced change in director and cinematographer, delayed the production of Superman II. But the unity of the story is still obvious. Superman: The Movie glosses the Superman mythos in a grandly epic style and establishes the romantic tension between Lois and Superman; Superman II gives our hero the worthy opponents that were lacking in the earlier film and resolves once and for all the issue of Lois and Superman's ill-fated love. To pit these two superlative films against one another is pointless; they belong together. Nothing since them has come close to touching their achievement until X-Men, and even X-Men -- like Superman I, is largely promise waiting to be fulfilled by sequels.

  • March 21, 2001, 6:27 a.m. CST


    by peter60

    I couldn't agree more with everyone who thinks "Superman" is a dreaful movie. It IS a dreadful movie. Stodgy, boring, badly acted, badly made, embarrassing, naff, crass and inept on every level. I would be more impressed if you good people out there were throwing your hands into the air and berating the studios for the endless tinkering with "the classics" and the not-so-classics. Can't they come up with any new movies? Of course not, it's just re-releases, directors' cuts, sequels, tv-to-film versions, blah blah blah. Sick of the whole thing. "Superman" does not need a director's cut. If you have fond memories of it, fine, I don't have a problem with that. Leave it at that and move on. I have fond memories of loads of movies and the last thing I need is to see them re-hashed with their now-dated effects "up-dated" and scenes that were removed for one reason or another re-inserted. Leave well alone! Was the "Star Wars" trilogy really improved by those awful "special editions"? Everyone who's fallen for the whole DVD deleted scenes/extra footage/commentaries/alternative endings bull has been sucked into the marketing men's wet dream - make the suckers buy it over and over again. Use Hollywood's vast pool of talent to create new stuff not this endless regurgitation and recycling. Thanks for listening.

  • March 21, 2001, 6:38 a.m. CST


    by Indo

    Sorry to break this to you, but the president of the United States, during Superman II's filming was Jimmy Carter. Those scenes were film in 1977 by Richard Donner. Carter was also president when the film was release in Australia in Dec 80'.

  • March 21, 2001, 10:19 a.m. CST

    "Can you read my mind" & Needed DVD extra

    by Mexican Menace

    First of all, I can't wait for this to show. I'm going to try to hit San Antonio this weekend. Second, I was watching "son of the Beach" last night. Ok, not watching, just flipping channels and then there were babes in bikinis. Anyway, that Arnold rip-off they have was having a "Little Mermaid" interlude and went swimming with the mermaid. While they're underwater, you hear him thinkng "Can you read my mind . . " I was laughing so hard I couldn't hear the rest. Finally, with the MI:2 DVD inclusion of the Ben Stiller/MTV stunt double clip, it made me think of the perfect clip that this DVD needs. Namely Christopher Reeve's Saturday Night Live appearance. You remember? The skit showed how he got the part in the movie. He and other actors had to perform Superman's feats of strength, heat vision, press coal into diamond, etc. It comes down to him and one other actor and the final stunt: stop a bullet. The other guy, who had been beating Reeves out tries to stop a bullet and gets killed. The bullets bounce off of Reeves and they go ahead and hire him. One of the best skits of the old SNL. I can't wait to see this movie again.

  • March 21, 2001, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Somebody should make some Superman comics

    by M_r_E

    Because DC is not doing it. The once-a-week buy-them-all-or-be-lost garbage DC is producing is NOT Superman. The art is ridiculous. It looks like anime. If you saw someone with a chin like that at the stoe, you might have to tell your child it is not polite to stare. What a deformed thing DC features in what they try to pass as "Superman" comics today. Everyone and his mother seems to know his "secret" identity now. The President Luthor schtick could have been cool if handled right, but it just wasn't. And I'm stunned by the "Big Lie". To try to put a silly half-cape back on Jor-El and Lara?!? This isn't Krypton any more. Not since the Superman movie laid down a decent Krypton have we seen Supes home planet portrayed in such a "SuperFriends" doofus fashion. Somebody ought to produce some stories featuring Superman, because DC is not doing it.

  • March 21, 2001, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Uber Man

    by Dr.007

    OK, I'd be psyched to see the first half of this movie every week for many years to come. the metropolis half? frankly it makes me uncomfortable in its embarrassing moments of stupidity. Just like Superman hugging Brando's albino Mullet will do. What they should do for the DVD is give you a choice of viewing the movie with or without the new scenes interspersed as I have seen on several other DVD's. AS for a Wide release? Money in the bank. Them Warner Brothers must be inbred or something.

  • March 21, 2001, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Uber Man II

    by Dr.007

    Oh yeah, and if they include extras like SNL Sketches they need to put in UberMan, the one where Superman lands in Germany and sides with the Nazis. That one was almost as funny as Superman 3 & 4 put together. (except for The Richard Pryor Scenes, what genius)

  • March 21, 2001, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Here we go again

    by GMitus

    Heheheheh. I get it. I get it now. Shame on all of us for being taken in by Jst20012001's supposed cynicism. It's all a big joke. He doesn't care one bit for any of this. He's being sarcastic. He's trying to get a rise out of all of us and he did a damn good job. From here on out, everybody should just IGNORE JST20012001. Just one word of advive attitude like that would get you raped and murdered in the street, so maybe you better quit while we laugh heartily at your hilarious sarcasm. The only reason you haven't been beaten within an inch of your life is b/c this is all over the net. Props to Jst for pulling the wool over our eyes. I can't imagine a real human being ACTUALLY believing the shit you said. Peace bro's. What a good life.

  • March 21, 2001, 2:01 p.m. CST

    It's called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, you morons!

    by desslok

    Hey Stitch - here's a clue for you. You know the reason that they take half an hour to get around to showing us the star of the show? Because they want to fill in SOME FREAKIN' BACKROUND, so you dont wind up with a mish-mosh of half baked characters like that crap X-Men flick.

  • March 21, 2001, 4:08 p.m. CST

    2 words come to mind about DVD "LASER ROTE"

    by Renaud B

    After 2 years only and all still perfectly clean discs I am starting to lose DVD discs;dual-layer discs seems to degrade quicker.I have over 150 DVD and the no longer working ones don't play either on my Creative DVD-ROM drive or the Toshiba plugged on my TV.With the data so small compared to CD some poeple only give DVD discs a 5 year life but some go within 2 years. I lost confidance in the DVD format but a restored version of SUPERMAN THE MOVIE & SUPERMAN 2 is very cool and I will buy both on cheap VHS tapes,at least those will last much longer than DVD discs;I have tapes more than 10 years old and they still play great. PS:If I ever buy the restored SUPERMAN MOVIES it will have to be the widescreen theatre version;I can't stand those modified(MASSACRED)for TV version with half the image ratios missing.

  • March 21, 2001, 4:19 p.m. CST

    What are you talking about?

    by JonQuixote

    I'll have owned a DVD player for 3 years this July, and all my movies work fine. Even the first ones I bought (Starship Troopers and LA Confidential), which got a lot of play ('cause I worked at a stereo store and the boss was too cheap to buy discs to demo), work just fine, and continue to work fine...I watched LA not three weeks ago and it was just as crisp (and gripping) as ever. Maybe you need to upgrade your machine.

  • March 21, 2001, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Yeah, What Are You Talking About?

    by RightWing Dude

    I've had DVD for 3 & 1/2 years & my oldest DVD's still work excellently. Of course, I had to replace my original RCA (piece of crap)player with a (drastically improved) Sony model. Otherwise, everything is working just fine!

  • March 21, 2001, 5:28 p.m. CST

    "With the data so small compared to CD some poeple only give DVD

    by RightWing Dude

    This is the 1st I've heard of it! In fact, the experts whom I have listened to say that DVD's will last practically forever. I would be extremely disappointed (and pissed-off-mad) to discover that these discs have short lifespans.

  • March 21, 2001, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Superman Comics: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.

    by Village Idiot

    The Good: Quixote's right, Action #775 is now widely acknowledged to be a classic, except among pissy teenagers. Meanwhile, DC is gearing up for an "extravaganza you won't want to miss" sized story this summer: Our Worlds at War. **Spoiler: Someone in Superman's circle is going to die. End spolier.** I'm not in love with the manga either (it's growing on me though), but I think Manhke's art is fantastic. The Bad: Return to Krypton. Never has ambiguity been so annoying. And the Ugly: In Man of Steel this week (today actually), Superman commands Krypto to use his heat vision, not only for the first time, but in a very specific, non lethal kind of way. WTF?!? What do you take me for? How the hell do you order a dog to use heat vision in the first place?

  • March 21, 2001, 6:39 p.m. CST

    the animated superman's better

    by mrhappy

    Yea, the movie and the lame Dean Cain TV shows truely deserve the reference to "comic book" stories. Plus, Teri Hatcher's nasty!! Kidder ain't so hot either but it seemed like ALL the women in the animated ones had perfectly drawn bods. Its amazing how cheesy the live action ones are and how damn good the Timm/Dini ones are. The same goes for Batman (Though the first Batman wasn't that bad, it wasn't spectacular either and had its moments of cheese). The Timm/Dini batman/superman episodes showed soo much more respect for the superheros.

  • March 21, 2001, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Credit where credit is due

    by JonQuixote

    Much as I love hearing phrases like 'I agree with JonQuixote', mostly because it reaffirms my faith that there is intelligent life on this planet, I never referred to Action 775 as a classic. Unfortunately, I have yet to read it although I'm starting to feel as though I should.

  • March 21, 2001, 7:48 p.m. CST


    by user id indeed!

    Watch closely and you can see the sleeve of Brando's costume pull back slightly to reveal... a ROLEX!! Hoo dog! I dig this movie myself, as well as all it's whacked-out sequels (yes, even the one with Richard Pryor). The poster for "Superman" is quite possibly the greatest movie poster EVER. Short, sweet simple, poignant (poignant! Ha ha ha! Narf!). There was this ridiculous thing on TV some time ago about hidden subliminal messages in popular family movies that sell tobacco to youngsters, and "Superman II" was one of the subjects (Supes lifts up a Marlboro truck or something)... and guess what channel it was on... ABC! Hey! Irony is good! I've got nothing else to say, except that the cartoon was good. There. Oh, and all your base... wah! No! Put the pitchforks awa- ow! That's my- ah! Dammit! Fine. "TIMMY!!!" There! How ya like them p'taters, you lousy porch monkeys!?!? That'll learn ya1 Talk to the wrist, cuz I'm gettin' pissed! Now stay off my lawn! Why am I typing this? This has been a Moment with User ID Indeed! I've been in the van for fifteen years, Harry...

  • March 21, 2001, 8:19 p.m. CST

    News story says WB has officially scrapped re-release for Superm

    by Batutta

    I read it at the link below--

  • March 22, 2001, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer's review of Robogeek's review of SUPERMAN.


    The year is 2001. I'm 24 years old. I come home from work on this particular evening. . . kind of a long day, but the kind where you just sort of feel a certain electricity in the air whenever you think about that point in the day when you call it quits and head on home. And, boy... was I ever right. For when I get home and fire up the old 'puter --that was always our nickname around the homestead for dad's trusty Commodore when I was growing up, because my baby sister could never pronounce the first syllable-- and I click on to AICN --my favorite movie site, which I had been frequenting and contributing to regularly in my own, "me-against-the-world" kind of bravura-- I happen to spy, there on the home page, on the left-hand side, upper corner, where Harry and the boys always presented the most news-worthy updates of the day, a rather unassuming, simply-stated link. It said "Robogeek reviews SUPERMAN." And I knew. I knew at that moment that my life was about to change forever. I knew that after I had clicked on those light-blue letters I saw before me and read that review, I would never --no, COULD never-- be the same man I was before. It called to me. I could swear. . . it almost *sang* to me. So, try as I might to talk myself away from it's magic allure. . . I knew that it had me in its grasp. And so I clicked. And the very second that the new screen appeared with Robogeek's review embedded into it, I could feel every cell in my body suddenly. . . God in heaven, what's the right word for it. . . REBORN! And outside my window, the mountains crumbled, the seas roared, and angels wept! The earth had never known the glory and the power of such an extraordinary, wondrous, galactically monumental impact upon humanity. And THAT, my friends, was just the banner advertising "Free Maid Service for a Year!" The review itself. . . oh. Oh, oh, oh. There just aren't words. No words at all. There isn't a language in the world, nay even perhaps in the entire UNIVERSE that could ever possibly do justice to describe the sheer, unadulterated POETRY of this review. Shakespeare knew not of poetry like this. Longfellow knew not of poetry like this. Poe, Frost, Dickinson, Whitman. . . even possibly Shel Silverstein himself knew not of poetry like this. To think, just to imagine even for a split second, that a man, a regular movie geek like me, could carve from the English language a work like this and bestow it upon the world. . . a world that has lost all sense of passion and devotion, a world where ideals and dreams have gone from being valued concepts to being punchlines in jokes told around the Sparklett's cooler, a world where hope, compassion, and honor have given way to cynicism, apathy, and greed, a world where. . . uh. . . what the fuck was I talking about?

  • March 22, 2001, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Supes II

    by Harry The Hutt

    Founder,the Phantom Zone window/glass was pulled behind by Kal-El's ship(even though it's not explicitly stated or shown in the film).There's a short scene in the extended version where right after Krypton explodes,the ship passes the criminals.They yell,"Help!Come back!"And they get sucked into the spacewarp/warpdrive(or whatever it is)of the ship. There's some wierd things in SII that don't make sense.Why did Clark's clothes change when he lost his powers?It makes it look like the suit is magical or something istead of the outfit that was (then)made from his baby blankets.If you saw the cut scene from part I where Lex tries to feed Eve to the "babies" it makes her look like a complete idiot for springing Lex out of the joint.I can see why that was cut.But after they go the fortress,we never see her again.I guess they couldn't figure out a better way to get Lex out.What was with the Kryptonian powers at the Fortress of Solitude battle?They could teleport and make holograms of themselves,shoot lazerbeams from their fingers.And Superman takes the s off his shirt,throws it,and it becomes a giant celophane trap that quickly disappears(again with the magic suit).Superman has never had these powers before or since.Especially the thing with the s.WTF?I'm not sure how much of this scene was shot by Lester,but he didn't know much about Superman when he was hired. It really shows in SIII what he knows about Superman.He should have kept to real life/non fantasy stuff,like the Beatles' movies. But I still love the film and still clearly remember the day I saw it at the long gone General Cinema.

  • March 22, 2001, 2:33 a.m. CST

    I agree with Jon Quixote


    ...but mainly just because (A) he's a cool bitch, and (B) because I just read the post where he says he likes hearing people agree with him. Just wanted to contribute to him renewing his faith in humanity. Lightstormer out.

  • March 22, 2001, 5:45 a.m. CST

    WB Shield

    by m2298

    The original 1978 release of SUPERMAN was preceded by the modern style Warner Communications logo. Warners didn't readopt the classic shield logo until the mid-1980s.

  • March 22, 2001, 6:04 a.m. CST

    Warner contact to prod re: CRPF donation?

    by rkhalloran

    Hey Robo! Your idea that Warner should drop massive $$$ on the Reeve Foundation with the DVD release is excellent! Got a contact at Warner PR to, ahem, **SUGGEST** that to?

  • March 22, 2001, 7 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer is one smart cookie

    by JonQuixote

    Most of you could learn something from him!

  • March 22, 2001, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Nothing last for ever and certainly not DVD discs

    by Renaud B

    Until a more durable Video format comes out(life time guaranted)I will stick with those cheap VHS tapes;they don't look as good as new out of the box DVD but at least they last much longer.

  • March 22, 2001, 8:32 a.m. CST

    What the hell

    by lodd

    First Batman Beyond cut to shreds and now Superman limited release my question to you all is. What the hell is going on at WB and who is in charge over there!!!!

  • March 22, 2001, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Giving credit where credit is NOT due.

    by Village Idiot

    Quixote is right, I falsely attributed comments to him regarding Action #775. Village Idiot regrets the error. I also falsely attributed the responsibility of the Kennedy Assasination to him, for which it is now clear that he was nowhere near Dallas that day. Village Idiot regrets this error as well. However, I will not retract my allegation that Quixote is the mastermind behind "Razor" scooters, a fad which now, thankfully, seems quite over. Really Quixote, what were you thinking?

  • March 22, 2001, 10:16 a.m. CST

    news about re-releasing Superman

    by otis von zipper

    This was found on Rotten site regarding Warner Bros. plans for a Superman theatrical release... "Warner Bros. has scrapped plans to release a restored director's cut of the original 1978 Superman and will instead show the film in seven theaters in San Antonio, TX beginning Friday, prior to a Superman Special Edition DVD being released on May 1, the online Digital Media FX News reported today (Wednesday). Commenting on the studio's action, the Web site, which focuses on animation and special effects, commented: "Warner Bros. dropped the ball on a full nationwide release, upsetting millions of Superman fans nationwide and further depriving millions from [sic] the experience of seeing Superman on the big screen for the first time." A Warner Bros. spokesman could not be reached."

  • March 22, 2001, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Margot Kidder

    by Moonwatcher

    I'm saddened and disappointed at the vitriol aimed at Margot Kidder in this talkback. Her personal problems aside (which are more cause for sympathy than crudity), she was luminous alongside Christopher Reeve in this landmark film. Don't believe me? Go back and watch the balcony scene where she interviews the Man of Steel ("How big are you - How TALL are You?!). Also - great review, Robogeek. I was 23 when I first saw it, and your description brought back for me the same feelings of awe and excitement, from the incredible opening credits to the fourth-wall breaking grin flashed by our hero at the end. Why not let a new generation discover for themselves the joy of this American classic as it was originally intended to be viewed?

  • March 22, 2001, 12:01 p.m. CST

    It's a skateboard! With a handle! Made of recycled pop cans!

    by JonQuixote

    Have you ever tried to ride a skateboard? Hello ass, meet pavement! I stand by my brilliance!***DVD's may not last forever, but they're gonna last a helluva lot longer than your standard VHS tape. Or are you just being silly and shit-kicking? To each his own...some people still listen to 8-tracks.*** Superman Song by Crash Test Dummies is easily the best Superman-related song out there, followed closely by Kryptonite, by 3 Doors Down. Matchbox Twenty's The Real World is another cool one, and fuck y'all, I like Jimmy Olsen Blues. Can we come up with any other Superman songs here in talkbackland?

  • March 22, 2001, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Stating the obvious

    by otis von zipper

    R.E.M. "Superman" a cover of a song by Cyrkle (maybe). Anyway, my vote for coolest Superman song. Runner up: Donovan "Sunshine Superman" Never heard Crash Test Dummies tune. Video sounds good.

  • March 22, 2001, 2:14 p.m. CST

    I forgot the best Superman song of them all!!

    by JonQuixote

    Superman, Superman does whatever a super can. Fixes locks, unclogs sinks, pay your rent you fuckin' dink LOOK OUT here comes the SuperMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

  • March 22, 2001, 4:26 p.m. CST

    At last it's official...Warner's blew it

    by pbanger

    Here's the official news release from the Showbiz Data web site: "Warner Bros. has scrapped plans to release a restored director's cut of the original 1978 Superman and will instead show the film in seven theaters in San Antonio, TX beginning Friday, prior to a Superman Special Edition DVD being released on May 1, the online Digital Media FX News reported today (Wednesday). Commenting on the studio's action, the Web site, which focuses on animation and special effects, commented: "Warner Bros. dropped the ball on a full nationwide release, upsetting millions of Superman fans nationwide and further depriving millions from [sic] the experience of seeing Superman on the big screen for the first time." Boy, can you say that again. I still can't believe it...a titanic movie (Superman I) and a titanic basketball team (Arizona) are both playing in San Antone' on the same weekend, and I'm going to miss them both. God, does it break the heart.

  • March 22, 2001, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Oops...Otis beat me to it. Miss TESCH-MACHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

    by pbanger

    Before the DVD craze is over, Warner's will probably do an injustice to every one of their classics released between 1977 and 1984. "The Shining" started us off (only mono sound on the DVD, no widescreen), followed closely by "Excalibur" (no isolated Trevor Jones score, behind-the-scenes documentary, or featurette--all which were promised in advance release info. by the studio), and now the colossal marketing brain fart that is the "Superman" re-release. But, hey, Warner's knows that EVERYONE would just FLOCK to see Kirsten Dunst or half the cast-off cast of the new, crappier SNL making total asses of themselves on the big screen, so who cares about respecting an established classic?

  • March 22, 2001, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Why am I not surprised that WB scrapped the re-release?

    by KingKrypton

    I honestly can say that I'm not surprised in the least. Of course they don't want to re-release it. A big-screen display of the classic Superman would conflict with the proposed "MATRIX-like" revamp that Peters and DiBonaventura want. (In fact, some speculation within the Superman fan base has it that the SMALLVILLE TV show is supposed to set up the new movie by introducing a costume-less, angst-ridden Clark Kent. And apparently, a WB source was quoted as saying that SMALLVILLE will prove that Superman doesn't need his costume to be a hero. But time will tell, eh?) Oh, well, at least we'll have the DVD. Forget SMALLVILLE, forget the planned new movie. Just buy the comics, buy the DVD, watch the cartoons on Cartoon Network, and you'll be set.

  • March 23, 2001, 12:05 a.m. CST

    100% TOTALLY UN-FU( !%-ING FAIR!!!!

    by DarthShaggy

    Why on earth would Warner Bros. only re-release SUPERMAN in TEXAS?? this makes no sense at all. Why aren't they re-releasing the film in much broader markets or nationwide?? The Brothers of Warner should take a cue from Fox/Lucasfilm and re-release it and Part 2 within months of each other which could increase their profit margin at least 4 fold. Getting back to the subject line ; I, and a good portion of the country, do not live in Texas which makes it...(read subject line)

  • March 23, 2001, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Batman and Batman Returns

    by Dillio156

    are the best comic book movies ever, not Superman! Tim Burton's a damned genius and his two Batman movies are far better than the Superman flicks. Dark atmosphere, a kick ass Batman (Reeve is a great Superman, but Keaton's Batman was better), better villains (come on, Jack Nicholson as the Joker and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman, or the dreadful Otis and a campy Gene Hackman as Luthor?), better design (Superman has AGED badly, Batman and Batman Returns haven't aged hardly at all) and all kinds of other stuff I'm too lazy to list make the Burton Batman movies BETTER than Superman The Movie! Tim Burton's Batman movies are the definitive comic book movies. Remember that and give the proper to respect to the Burton bat-films, fools.

  • March 23, 2001, 4:51 a.m. CST

    San Antonio is not the right place

    by JEFFJ8

    I am deeply disapointed at WBs decission of realeasing Superman exclusively in San Antonio. I lived in Texas for 33 out of my 37 years on this planet and San Antonio is not the proper venue for a film of this nature. If they were dead set on releasing it in Texas, Austin would have been a much better choice. You also have Dallas and Houston with both have a much higher population in comparison to San Antonio. No offense to the people of San Antonio, but this movie is not the kind of picture most of the citizens will want to see. Austin is within driving distanse of San Antonio hovever and hopefully there will be some road trips to see this fantastic movie. Superman is one of the best movies of all time! It is not perfect, but what movie is. I can't get back to the site that was showing the rerelease trailer. Those of you that have seen it know how exciting the film looks by this excelent trailer! I think the trailer is better than the original theatrical trailer which contained mostly still images. My only complaint is they have appearintly not included the 2 deleted scenes of the unseen monster in Luthor's penthouse. If you have seen these scenes in the television airings you know how amusing they are. The last one creates a much smoother flow from where Superman leaves Lois and drops off Luthor and Otis in the penitentury. Hopefully they will be in the deleted scenes portion of the DVD. I have checked the stats of the DVD and 2 deleted scenes are all that is listed and I sincerly hope thease 2 scenes are the ones. Anyway lets keep hoping a mircal will happen and this great film will get the release it deserves!

  • March 23, 2001, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Superman re-release vs. DVD release

    by nathan1977

    I agree with Robogeek that the WB should push back the DVD release -- however I am hankering for this more because I want the Superman II DVD to be a special edition as well, instead of the lame regular edition they're putting out (just a trailer???). This movie went through so much production hell, a documentary and supplemental footage could be as much of a learning experience about filmmaking as the Terminator 2 DVD is. Plus I want the opportunity to see Superman the way it should be seen... on the big screen!!!

  • March 25, 2001, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Maybe if the just digitally enhanced Margot Kidder's breasts

    by JAGUART

    I really don't think we'd have to totally replace her. Breast enhancement can go along way towards adding more "personality".