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Hey folks, Harry here with a letter from 'Hal' detailing the latest buzz he's heard on the GREEN LANTERN film and a request for further digging from me. The key element that I seem to have dug up at the moment is that GREEN LANTERN seems to be set up with EAGLE COVE ENTERTAINMENT at the moment and not Joel Silver Productions. Recently that production company has produced DEEP BLUE SEA, THE FAMILY MAN and DUETS... while they also have properties like STARSKY AND HUTCH, TOMCATS, THE SANDMAN (along with Peters Entertainment) and even a remake for BULLIT (like that needs to happen) When last reported to the world the screenplay was in the hands of Gary Scott Thompson, who has written THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS and did rewriting duties on HOLLOW MAN. I'm hoping for the best out of this project... I mean on my desk is that big DC direct Green Lantern lantern with Hal Jordan atop it. I'm a huge GL freak (pre-Guy Gardner... sorry) Let's hope that if this ever does get made, it gets made correctly by people that love the property. Here's our Prisoner's rumor filled letter that got me started....
Hey Harry,
You know the drill...longtime reader, first-time submission =)
The scope of my 'fanboy bandwidth' is usually limited to LOR, anything David
Lynch or Terry Gilliam, and classic comic book characters -
which segues nicely into my possible 'scoop'...
I normally wouldn't embarrass myself by submitting a 'friend-of-a-friend'
story, but I have been a diehard GREEN LANTERN fan for 25 of my 30 years
on
this rock, and if the info is accurate then I wanna see this happen! From
what I hear, SILVER PICTURES has received a treatment for a GL FEATURE that
could truly be something special.
Apparently the story isn't about a cartoonish baddie, or the wacky things
HAL can make with his ring, but about SACRIFICE, WILLPOWER, and the
responsibilities of great power. The only tidbits I could get were that
the
'foe' is a branch of the military-industrial complex with a weapon that's
running amok and causing earth-threatening damage, and that some other
members of the GL CORPS show up at the end to witness Hal Jordan's
'victory'. Some mention of wicked CG sequences too, which this DC/WARNER
property is just RIPE for!!!
God, I can't tell you how much the prospect of such a thing excites me...
GREEN LANTERN? SILVER PICTURES??? An EPIC story that won't be geared to
8-13 year olds???
Please, oh HeadGeek, use your great powers of influence and bullshit
detection to see if there's any truth to this.
In the Brightest Day...
"Hal"
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Let's hope it happens.
And let's also fervently pray it's nothing like that JLA abortion that finally fetched up on British TV last year! (although David Ogden Stiers as a admittedly podgy Martian Manhunter was right on the money, and deserved to be in a better film).
Seriously, a straight GL film with Hal, not Kyle, could be the business.
Hal is probably the best of all the Silver Age heroes - witness his current incarnation as the Spectre- and I for one would be first in the queue to see this proposed movie.
And the idea of some of the Corps turning up as well... goosebumps abound! -
My gosh.. was I first?
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Husky and Starch? Like that show really needs to be turned into a movie. Didn't Mod Squad teach these idiots anything at all? I can see it now: Starsky and Hutch in a Tango and Cash style adventure. What's worse is that I recall reading that hack Akiva Goldsman is scripting Husky and Starch. Yes please make that movie so it can tank.
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I never saw anything like that on the telly. Must be on satellite.
With all the talk of sacrifice and willpower it sounds like they've watched Unbreakable.
good. -
Mar 08, 2001 2:31:50 AM CST
If this concept makes it to the screen, then I for one will be h
by vroom socko
For a Green Lantern movie to work, it must havethe following elements. Hal Jordan as GL. Focus on the honest/fearless aspect of the Corps. And the presence of everyone's favorite Yoda surrogate, Kilowog. Hell, who am I kidding, they could have G'Nort in this thing and I'd go see it.
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Do you people really think this is ever going to hit a multiplex? Just because X-Men did great business doesn't mean the American (or any other) public is ready to see every costumed hero on the big screen. And I can tell you right now that this is a case where name/sight recognition is going to hurt rather than help; besides the miniscule percentage of moviegoers who actually still (or ever) read Green Lantern comics, most people are going to remember GL as the lame member of the SuperFriends who didn't do much except play with his ring, and that he was slightly cooler than Aquaman (which could actually make money if it was done as some kind of over-the-top homoerotic satire). A Wonder Woman movie would only do big business if they put a hot chick in there for all the guys to go see (Tomb Raider will be a good prognosticator of this factor). Spider-Man, Batman and Superman are American icons, so it's no surprise they are/will be successful. X-Men was a marketing triumph helped by good reviews and word-of-mouth. But if you think Flash, Green Arrow, Captain America, Iron Man, or whoever are going to be invading Hollywood anytime soon, you're in for quite a wait. My guess is that the studios would be better off gambling their money with darker genre "superheroes" like Sandman, which could pull similar numbers to The Crow (which didn't have much name recognition either). But I guess many of you like to pretend you're living in the fantasy world that your heroes inhabit.
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yeah, whatever. i dont really know anything about the green lantern. i just wanted to post a talkback. aw! thats so pathetic! so how long will it take until this tb evolves into a discussion about batman and/or superman? thats where i really shine!!!!baff3
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Doc,
it was on channel 5 about August last year. It went out at about 5.30 on a sunday and I only caught it by chance.
The film featured teenage!!!!!versions of Flash (called Barry Allen but played like Wally West)GL (Hal Jordan but more Kyle), Atom (an embarassing geek with glasses who thought he was Woody Allen Jr.) Fire ( a bimbo-esque Brazilian supermodel type) and the Martian Manhunter by Stiers which was PERFECT. Sigh. Pity it was in the wrong film.
It was one of those 'hey, I'm much cleverer than those comic book writers so I'll take the perzackerly out of it and if it bombs, it's the comic's fault' efforts.
By the way I'm a TV writer myself so I know how it works.
Please agent! Get me a shot at the JLA and I'll do it right! Honest...
It'll be repeated soon so try not to watch out for it.
Channel 5 also showed the Generation X movie, which to be fair had some good moments, and about two years ago, the 'Return to Riverdale' movie about a grown-up Archie and Jughead, so they obviously have some commitment to comic movies.
Nah.They were cheap.
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We must stop this film so that I may be able to make my GL film in the near future. While I like the serious touch they are going for, I have a feeling that this will go awry in a way that, oh say, Steel went awry. This story sounds curiously similar to that piece of shite. We can only hope it isn't. GL deserves so much more.
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I think you have some valid points there, but don't forget that hollywood continues to churn out old tv show remakes soley because 1 in 5 actually turn a profit. and i think we need more superhero spoofs. mystery men apparently did nothing for the concept to catch on, but an Ambiguously Gay Duo take on things could be pretty funny. it could also be one note and stupid but you never know. i really don't care too much for Green Lantern. i'm just hoping for the best with Spiderman and hoping that Arrenofsky pulls through with the next batman, after that i'm not really worried too much about superhero movies (although there are a lot of comic properties i'd like to see, sin city, sandman, etc). one last thing though, you shouldn't bash comic geeks for getting excited at the prospect of their favorite character getting put on screen, especially after that pitfal rant over on the tomb raider page. unless of course, i've confused you with someone else and have just made quite the fool of myself. its almost 8am and i haven't slept, so forgive me.
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Green Lantern is WAYYY too goofy. It's a dumb concept for a comic book, even dumber for a movie.
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Tim Daly (Wings, CBS's The Fugitive, and the voice of Superman in the animated series) would be ideal for Hal Jordan.
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Us fanboys need a comic property to hit the screens every month. EVERY month! You hear that, world?
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Out of curiousity, does anyone know where all of the money is in comic properties? Do these films make most of their $$$ in ticket sales, or do sales in video, DVD, merchandising and other ancillary markets make them more lucrative than films of other genres?
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suck suck suckety suck!! No industrial military complex shite -- what is he the Hulk!?? If the green ray doesn't turn into a big fist then it ain't the GL of my 70's youth. What about the Metal Men cameo? What about Green Arrow? Maybe GL should have the old-school red shirt and Lone anger mask. By the way if Aquaman had worn a crew-neck orange shirt instead of the scoop-neck ladies blouse, noone would have ever questioned his fishy manhood.
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I hope they do a good job with this but of course the odds are against it. Even though I haven't picked up a GL comic in over 20 years there is still a soft spot in my heart for the guy. I really enjoyed seeing GL on the Superman Adv. cartoon. Got a crash course on why it was Kyle and not Hal from a few of your friendly neighborhood talkbackers. Someone earlier had talked about goofy heroes and stupid powers, did anyone happen the catch This American Life on NPR last week? There was a great interview with Jonathan Morris who has a website devoted to the worst of the worst in comic books. Heroes with powers like magnetic rays that make metal object fly towards his eyes. Useful things like that! Anyway here is the website if you want to take a look. http://www.ape-law.com/GAF/
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Yeah. I always preferred Green Lantern to Spidey. Not sure why really, I just did. "Hollow Man" sucked though, so there's reason to take pause and worry a little - though I'm sure this writer wasn't fully to take blame. I hope this pans out. Tim Robbins would be cool as the part.
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Anyone else agree that Andy Dick (Newsradio) would make one bad- ass Hal Jordan/GreenLantrn!?!?
This would be casting perfection!
Bionic Monkey
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That's not such a bad thing. He's just not as big a show-off as the other guys. Screw the military, he should take on less high profile issues, like Bono. Maybe the Green Lantern can lend his ring to the eradication of third world debt.
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When I was in film school, a book was published with many Marvel comic book pages and panels, to explain to the novice filmmaker how a film ought to be shot and edited... large splash panels were long takes, tiny panels were quick cuts, etc. Filmmakers have been filming using these rules since DW made his first film. Unfortunately, even more than Sturgeon's Law (80% of everything is crap), most films of comic books are horrendous. Just as British-style stage acting looks vastly over-the-top in films, so too do larger-than-life, garishly-costumed superheroes. Great film acting comes from underplaying... even Belushi could say more with an eyebrow waggle than with screaming. We can count on one hand the great films made from comic books... the rest are poor substitutes for the joy a 64-pager can bring. The odds that a GL film can capture the beauty of a Golden age or a Silver age Green Lantern is highly doubtful. The special effects would most likely work well and be fairly inexpensive... but finding a script that was not completely lame and shooting/editing it with poise is far too much to expect. Harry's dad sold me my first Golden age Captain America comic book, while Harry was a bun in the oven... they haven't come close to filming anything about Cap that didn't bite bigger than the crappy explanation of how there could have been a Cap during the Korean War when he was supposedly encased in ice at the end of WWII. Switching metaphors again: Is this GL film even an egg? Might not be worth counting yet...
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Can anyone tell me what positive contributions Jon Peters has ever made to a film he's produced? I keep remembering back to his insistence that Superman fight polar bears during the Kevin Smith Superman Lives debacle. Check over at Drew's Scripts-O-Rama and read the excellent Sandman script that there's a link to. You can also read the writer's take on his meeting with Jon Peters. Again, Peters suggests that rather than Morpheus being summoned and trapped by a magician, he should instead be summoned and trapped by a group of teenagers at a slumber party *gagging sounds*. Peters then apparently demanded the scriptwriter be jettisoned from the production because he didn't take to his idea. I'm just curious if anyone knows whether this hairdressing loser has ever done anything creative that's succeeded (and I mean HIS creative input, not successful projects he's gotten himself attached to). I keep thinking back to the Joker shooting down the Batplane with a *drumroll* really big gun and wonder if that's another Peters idea.
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nuff said
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Mar 08, 2001 11:20:28 AM CST
If you think Mechanical Webshooters are a hard concept for audie
by jonquixote
Try "the Green Lantern Corps"...not one of the best ideas to ever flow down the comics pipeline. But still, Hal Jordan is one of the better ideas for a comic-movie: imagination, flash, heroism, comedy, and I think the basic premise would be easier for a mass audience to swallow. GL's never been one of my favorite characters (in any incarnation), but he does have a lot of big screen appeal...though I can't see a superserious take on it being a big success. Instead of the space-opera idea, maybe combine the mystical nature of the Alan Scott GL with the Hal Jordan character in order to make the concept easier to swallow. The powers seem more magical than scientific anyways. Just a thought though.
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GL is not instantly recognisable to most non-comic readers, but that can often work in favour of a film. Both 'The Mask' and 'Men In Black' did very well at the box office, and a lot of comic readers didn't even know they were comics, let alone the general public. Many adults automatically categorise comics as 'for kids,' and so do not bother to watch something that they might otherwise enjoy. 'Blade' offset this by getting an 18 rating and clearly being an adult film (and few non-comics readers knew it was a comic) and it sounds like GL will be aimed at a 12 or 15 audience. Strangely enough, it will probably do better that way than if it were open to all ages. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Mar 08, 2001 11:48:53 AM CST
Actually, Bari, It's Not STARSKY & HUTCH, It's MIAMI VICE They'
by buzz maverik
Michael Mann is attached, with a script by his chiropractor Dr. Chuck. In the new version, Crockett and Tubbs were sent into a rift between dimensions where time doesn't exist by drug lord Tony Montana (Al Pacino). After his death, his widow Elvira (Michelle Pffeifer) accidentally brings them back while clearing out all of the mad scientists gizmos from Tony's lab to make room for more cocaine. Crockett (Owen Wilson) and Tubbs (Taye Diggs) have not aged. They still have the same clothes and tastes in music and they're ready to start busting dealers again. They try to find Lt. Castillo (Edward James Olmos), but discover that after pissing off the Mexican Mafia, Castillo has married a mobster's pschotherapist (Lorraine Braccho) after stealing her from an armed robber (Harvey Keitel). Castillo now cleans up after riots for a living. Even they're old enemies are no help. Lombard (Dennis Farina) is now retired with a daughter (Jennifer Lopez) who is a federal marshall. De Marco (Bruce Willis) is now a dead child psychologist who battles terrorists. Crockett finds that his ex-wife (Melanie Griffith) has remarried to Eurotrash (Antonio Banderas). Finally, Crockett and Tubbs must battle alternate versions of themselves who have aged. Alternate Crockett is a cop in Frisco and Alternate Tubbs is a shill for the Psychic Friends Network. So don't tell me it won't be a big, big hit.
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I've always enjoyed your alternate-movie rants, but this one might be the best yet. I'm dyin' ovah heah. (Gimme a quartah fer some watah.)
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Owen Wilson and Taye Diggs were my stars for the 'Power Man and Iron Fist' movie that I've been passing myself off as a producer for, so that I don't have to pay for sex anymore. It isn't working, but I have hope. Way to leech my casting choices!
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For all the complaints about live action superhero movies sucking, I wonder why nobody in Hollywood has thought of making an animated superhero flick? Sure we've had Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker, but I'm talking about taking the technology level of Toy Story or Antz and making a comic book movie. God almighty, imagine how unbelievably cool a Green Lantern film done in CGI would be. a Green Lantern film would be a special effects nightmare to budget live action, but computer animation could incorporate all the tricks of the GL saga without problem. Sets, aliens, starships. . .it'd be awesome.
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Animation might be nice if it were on the level of the Fleischers' Superman shorts... but CGI? CGI people (humans, that is) are less real looking than Sylvia and Gerry Anderson
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"The only tidbits I could get were that the 'foe' is a branch of the military-industrial complex with a weapon that's running amok and causing earth-threatening damage..."
Sounds like some left-wing, bash the military, environmental, propaganda crap. Doesn't give me too much confidence in the writer. This report is a bad sign for a GL movie IMO. -
Mar 08, 2001 3:44:12 PM CST
Now WB's targeting Green Lantern for strip mining? Count me out.
by kingkrypton
From the studio that's letting Jon Peters and Lorenzo DiBonaventura decimate Superman, has already flushed Batman down the toilet, is making a sure-to-fail SCOOBY-DOO movie, and is wallowing in a reputation as Hollywood's premier crap factory, we're now supposed to be getting a GREEN LANTERN film? Pass. I like the character a lot, but WB has not one bit of ability to do it right. Having one of the writers from HOLLOW MAN on it doesn't make me confident about the project at all (it's almost as bad as the brief tenure of Carrot Top flunky Alex Zamm as GL's screenwriter). J Michael Straczynski--a guy who knows comics--wrote up a GL proposal for WB, and it was apparently never read (this was revealed in a WIZARD interview for RISING STARS). I don't have any faith in WB when it comes to comic/cartoon-based movies. They've proven time and again that they don't know what they're doing.
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It seems that cartoons are made before movies so that studios can build an audience before attempting a big movie production. Often times the cartoon doesn't draw the expected audience and movie talk dies (Captain America, Iron Man, etc.) What's interesting about the JLA cartoon is that the John Stewart GL is being used. So does it follow that John Stewart would be used in a movie?
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Kevin Spacey as Sinestro!
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Mar 08, 2001 6:10:55 PM CST
I Didn't Leech Your Casting Choices, Jon Q., Michael Mann Did. B
by buzz maverik
...Wilson and Diggs will be doing this movie AFTER they do your movie. They've decided to be a team like Hope and Crosby, with Wilson making a bunch of T.V. specials with Brooke Shields and Diggs beating his kids and shilling for orange juice. They also want to be like Belushi and Ackroyd, with Wilson O.D.ing on a speedball with a NyQuil chaser and Diggs becoming fat and mediocre. In Michael Mann's defense, he did say,"Damn, I know I heard that combo somewhere." Incidentally, after you make the movie you won't HAVE to pay for sex but you might find that you want to since you'll be able to afford better looking hookers. When you call Heidi, tell her Ma-Sheen sent you.
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I didn't get into Green Lantern until after Kyle got the ring, and I have to say, I like him better than the 1980's incarnation of Hal Jordan. Jordan was whiny and mopey almost the entire time, and it got really in the way of the whole "fearless" thing.
Kyle is pretty cool, mainly due to his artist nature, which can allow him to conjure up cooler and more imaginative things than a giant boxing glove or a huge cage. There is a lot of potential, just no writer seems to get it yet for the comic. -
GET OUT YOUR YELLOW RAIN SLICKERS, BOYS AND GIRLS, THERE'S ANOTHER SH*T STORM COMING!!
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Did anyone else see the Kyle-Rayner GL Superman Episode? One of the best, I thought. I really like the characterization, and it's a shame they ain't bringing him back for the JLA series. Damn Political Correctness. Anyway, take away the Superman element and a simple story like that episode could have been a great basis for a film. I agree that the artist element would have been a better way to go. A young graphic designer seems more like an underdog that an audience could root for. Hal Jordon, the fearless test pilot? It's just a little blatant is all. Way too much of a standard Super-hero character.
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Green Lantern (Hal) is my favorite DC character, but this movie idea doesn't sound that good. The plot tidbit sounds terrible: a reworking of the Steel plot, I think. And we all know what happened with that movie. As for who should be the GL (in the movie or in the animated series), it should NOT be Kyle! He's the fifth best out of five GLs! I'd much rather see Guy Gardner trying to work through his macho attitude than boring Kyle. The whole "more imagination" thing has a lot more to do with the writers than the character. Hal and John would probably have used things besides boxing gloves and giant spoons if the writers and artists had thought of them. Hal's a much better character and I would have loved to see a GL movie made in the early 80s with Harrison Ford as Hal (Ford's Han Solo/Indiana Jones type of character is perfect for Hal's cocky, yet fallable personality.) Scott Bakula would have been good 10 years ago. Right now, I'd go with...maybe Ed Burns?
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(Aaron Copeland's "Fanfare for the Common Man" plays gently in the background) Values. I think that's waht it all boils down to here: values. Time was where a man knew where he stood. He knew that if the harvest was low, his neighbor would be there to help him out. He knew that if a trans-dimensional monster of some kind, with one eye, or maybe even two eyes, would suddenly appear with some kind of hypno-spell or gestating spawn parasite that would lodge in your esophogas, a man in a colorful tight costume, sometimes with a cape, sometimes without, would appear. And whether this man used some kind of super-speed power, or super strength, the power of the sea creatures of the ocean, or maybe just a ring that would create mildly inefficient but creative ways of dealing with the problem, that trans-dimensional monster would be dealt with. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it's not to late to have those days back. Whether it be your X-Men, your Spider-Men, and yes, your Green Lanterns, It's Morning in America. And yes, they're going to screw this one up too.
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Mar 09, 2001 10:03:59 AM CST
A kid finds his dad's old broken lantern, plays around in the ba
by movie_buff_mann
I'm sure that old camping lantern provided the creator with lots of fun while fighting off his imaginary "bad guys" in the woods around his house-- but you have to admit, this should never really have been taken seriously. If you don't believe me, have your best friend dress up as Superman this Halloween, and YOU dress up as the "Green Lantern" and see how the chicks respond. At one point or another, EVERY girl has dreamed of being Lois Lane who gets rescued by Superman. Standing around holding a stupid army-green camping lantern and trying to look suave will get you laughed out of the room.
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I was the Green Lantern for Halloween last year. made my power ring out of aluminum foil and a beer cap.
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Glad they are making a movie, too bad it wasn't my idea that they are going with.
Mine would have been the origin of GL (Hal Jordan) and his training, up to his conflict with Sinestro (think Ben Cross could have pulled off Sinestro quite well).
Other ideas: Jeri Ryan as a member of the GL corps (great looking in tight outfit). Tom Baker as a Guardian. Don't know who I would have cast as Jordan though, maybe Matt Damon or Bruce Boxleitner (probably mispelled). Perhaps Charlton Heston as the dying GL who gives his ring to Jordan.
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I have been waiting on someone to actually do something with GL since I first heard of the project in "Film Journal" way back in 1990. I only hope that they give the characters the treatment that they deserve. If they do, It's a win-win situation for both studio and moviegoer.
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I must admit that i like GL, and I do read the comic, but I'm sorry to say that I don't trust the WB to make a good movie. I think the biggest problem is that the whole concept of GL is hokey, hell even the name sounds silly. The only way it can be pulled of is if they make it serious enough that the maistream audience will over look the silly concept.I will say that the movie would make for a great Fx estravaganza, but i get the feeling that the good old WB isn't going to shell out a lot of money for this flick.
For casting I'll go for a well known actor I mean a character that isn't well known outside of comics needs some star power and thats why I thoght it would be a great idea if an Iron Man movie did get made with Tom Cruise as Stark.Now I don't really care much for Hal Jordan(it may be do to the reason I started reading the title with Kyle as GL)and since he was the GL that was featured on the Superman cartoon I'd perfer him, and if for some reason they use John Stewart the person I would cast is Will Smith and Matt Damon as Kyle hell he could be Hal to if thats the Gl thats going to be used.Don't get your hopes up for this flick guys cause it sounds like a long shot hell you got a better chance of winning the state lottery then seeing this puppy on the silver screen.
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I always liked GL. In fact, the very idea of a cartoon or movie is great. The things his ring is capable of is essentailly unlimited.
The DC comics guide referred to him as "casually omnipotent" with according to the character is true.
He should have a villain commensurate with his power, not a bunch of military schmoes, but some kind of alien, mutant, or evil force that ordinary humans can't take out with a rifle.
I have been dabbling with photoshop 6, and I am slowly but surely getting the knack of it. I have made a few hero images, and am constantly working to improve my technic and the speacial effects. For a glance, here is my page:
http://users.cwnet.com/vmpsguy/welcome_to_lowell.htm
As I develop my understanding of CGI, the images will improve. I will at least have that until they get off thier corporate asses and make a GL movie. -
Mar 10, 2001 8:18:49 PM CST
This movie MUST be made. And Harrison Ford must star in it!!
by silentbob x
Why would a Green Lantern movie
suck? I just don't understand
where the hate's coming from.
Harrison Ford would be perfect as
Hal Jordan. Fuck Kyle Rayner. A GL movie would be better than the substandard swill that's out there now. See Spot Run, Tomcats, Monkeybone, anyone? Come
on, if shit like that can get
greenlit(no pun intended) then a
Green Lantern movie should be in
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Mar 14, 2001 12:59:11 PM CST
To be filed under non-interest, behind daredevil and flash
by theevilharv
made for tv maybee but mainstream nope
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http://www.geocities.com/captainamerica1million/GREEN_LANTERN_THE_MOVIE_PAGE.html
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Not if but when they make this movie, I agree with most when i say it should be Hal Jordan. The only real concern I have is who are they gonna pick to be Hal. Now I know this is gonna sound bad when I say it and I don't want him taking over the comic movies but I think Ben Afleck would do a good job of portraying Hal. The only othe actors I can think of is Tom Cruise and/or Mel Gibbson.And one more subject I would like to bring up is the fact that lots of these emails bash Kyle Rayner.He is a good green lantern, its just that after so many adventures with other green lanterns is it harder to come up with ideas that havent been done yet.
so in closing i for one hope that they dont mess up Hal if they do him, And to everyone whom this applies give Rayner a break he is doing the best that he can so lay off.
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