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Mysterio takes us behind the scenes of JAY & SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK!!! Affleck Speaks!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... I was looking over my introduction from last week and realized just how perfectly I captured every nuance and detail of that party. From Mysterio's own forbidden longings for me to the amazing vibrato of Kevin's singing voice. And today as I read Mysterio's column I realized that perhaps... perhaps the alcohol and those roofies that ol jarhead gave me might have impeded my morales and memory of the evening... I'm not sure. Has the world gone mad or just me? Don't answer that, its rhetorical... Here's Mysterio with the goods to deliver!!!

‘JAY and SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK’ – On-Set Production Report

WEEK SIX – Part I

For the record, Harry’s previous ranting and raving in last weeks column about the party we’re obviously all concocted from his own fan boy induced delusions, which for the most part are all lies I tell ya, all lies.

February 20th through February 25th, 2001.

"WOULD YOU LOOK AT THESE MOROSE MOTHERFUCKERS HERE." –

Tuesday, Day 25

Today, filming takes place inside a rented loft somewhere in LA, which is a rare find. Kudos to the production team for finding this one as they did. It’s actually used for building furniture I’m told, but today the production is using it as Holden McNeil’s loft.

Many cool items adorn the walls, such as original ‘Bluntman & Cronic’ comic artwork, as well as Scott Mosier’s original "$100 bill" sketch used in ‘CHASING AMY’. From the looks of the place, Holden’s been keeping quite busy for himself since we last saw him in ‘AMY’.

As it’s Ben’s first day, and he has only two scheduled days to shoot all his stuff for the film, the shooting schedule for today is very tight. Six pages of dialog between Holden, Jay and Silent Bob must be shot and wrapped by days end. You guys know how much six pages of Kev’s dialog can be, so you pretty much have an idea of the schedule crunch that the cast and crew is in for today.

Inside the loft is cramped and crowded with crew and equipment, and the safest place to keep from the camera’s view, and out of the way, is upstairs.

Kev catches me between set ups and asks if I’ve met Ben yet.

"No" I say, and he motions me with a little wave, to follow him outside to the craft service table where I see Ben standing, peeling the shell from a hardboiled egg.

Kev kindly introduces me and informs Ben I’m from AICN, and soon Ben and I are left standing, conversing about. He asks me such questions as to how long I’ve written for AICN, how I came to know Harry and such. He’s clearly familiar with the site. First impression of Ben, the man is tall. Second, he’s extremely friendly and charismatic, and when you speak to him, his attention is focused directly on you and what you have to say.

As we talk, I manage to slip out the obligatory "interview" request, and ask if he has some free time today, that we might sit down for a few minutes to talk and answer some of your questions.

"Sure." he says, and that’s it. More than happy to do it, without the slightest bit of hesitation.

Later Kev takes the time out (yet again) to introduce me to Jim from ‘WIZARD’ magazine. He’s down here for a few days to check things out and do a cameo later in the week.

During the course of the day, as time gets tighter and tighter, I realize that any chance of doing an interview with Ben is pretty much shot. Ben finds me later and apologizes as he assures me that we’ll do it tomorrow, when he has fewer lines of dialog. He indicates that he really wants to do it and take the time to answer some of your questions.

Running in at a lean, mean 13 hours, the day finally comes to an end. The crew wraps a productive and successful day with Ben, and as always, it’s back to the lot for dailies.

"JUST SOME ‘GOOD WILL’ BOYS" – Wednesday, Day 26

I arrive early in the morning at the lot, on Stage 14 to find shuttle buses full of extras being unloaded out onto set. Only a small portion of the stage is being used today for a scene featuring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. For some reason, the set seems more crowded than usual today, even with the 25 or so extras.

As the extras are gathered, PA’s search through to find a few "feature extras", which pretty much assures them some up close screen time, rather that just an out of focus blur in the background.

With all that’s going on, it’s a bit of a madhouse to get everyone situated, and set up the numerous shots that need to be completed today. Add to the fact that Matt just literally flew in from filming ‘OCEAN’S ELEVEN’ to do his cameo. Plus, he’s only available to shoot until 7pm tonight before he has to hop a plane and jet back to the ‘OCEAN’S ELEVEN’ set for shooting the next day.

There are also 3 _ pages scheduled to be shot today, involving some effects as well.

I later notice "SPIKE, MIKE, SLACKERS AND DYKES" author and indie film guru, John Pierson and his family stop by on set for a visit. If you have any interest in independent filmmaking, and the business, I cannot strongly enough recommend this book. It’s essential reading, and entertaining at the same time as Kevin collaborates with Pierson in the discussion of indie cinema, adding some of his own trial and tribulations in making films outside the studio system.

10:44 am - Kev yells cut, and calls Ben and Matt back over to the playback monitors and instructs them on what he’s like to see on the next take.

It’s obvious to see that Ben and Matt are having a great time working together again, and after a few more tries they finally get the take Kev wants and they move on to another setup.

Mark Hamill pops up on stage to show Kevin some makeup tests for his role shooting this Friday. Matt and Ben come over and stand beside Kev, taking a moment before realizing that it’s Mark Hamill underneath the makeup. They then show a little "fanboy" admiration, shaking his hand and expressing their pleasure in meeting him.

I later have the opportunity to show a little "fanboy" appreciation of my own as I chat a bit with Mark. We talk a little about his role as the Joker in the ‘Batman’ animated series he did alongside Paul Dini. He tells me he thoroughly enjoyed playing that character so much that he quickly goes into reciting one of his Joker monologues, complete with Joker voice.

I ask him how he feels to be a part of ‘JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK’, to which he says, "Yeah its great. Now in the eyes of my kids, I look really cool again." His kids are obvious fans.

Brian Lynch, Jeff Anderson, Ali Larter and Dave Mandel all stop by on set and hang out briefly. I converse briefly with Jeff about his film project an he shows me the script he’s written that he’s currently in pre-production on, to direct himself.

Later in the evening, as the camera and lights are being set up for the next shot, Ben finds me and asks, "You ready to do this thing?"

"Yeah, let’s do it." I say.

Just as Ben and I are set to do the interview, Matt comes up and stands beside me. Matt and I exchange a few words until Ben jokingly gives Matt a warning to "watch out what you say around this guy -- he’s from Ain’t-It-Cool!" We laugh and I soon excuse myself to go with Ben to do the interview before he’s called back on set.

Ben and I find some open chairs by the monitors and sit. He politely offers to hold my tape recorder for me as I flip though some of your questions to ask him.

MYSTERIO: Ok Ben, first question.

"Ryan Free" asks: "Ben, what’s your favorite View Askew movie?"

BEN AFFLECK: Probably, um, well I mean ‘CLERKS’ in a way just cause I saw that without kind of being in it. You know when you do something you always have a degree of exposure to it where you never really quite get to enjoy it. But the best work experience I had was with ‘CHASING AMY’, but I really, really like ‘DOGMA’ as well. I just hate ‘MALLRATS’.

"Adam Daniel" asks: "What’s your favorite memory on set with Kevin?"

BEN: One of the cool things is that I became friends with Kevin on ‘MALLRATS’ and we hung out and stuff, but the best kind of memories, most that I have, are just from the fact that when we did ‘CHASING AMY’ I stayed at his house, kind of on his couch, and so he used to like come home, watch dailies, and then I would school him in Sega hockey every night. Playing Sega hockey with Kevin Smith, I thought it was like playing basketball with Michael Jordan, you know what I mean? Here’s the guy that personally popularized the sport, so that had to be the high point. I think I still owe him $1200 bucks or something from that.

"Jason Revington" asks: "What aspects of Kevin’s writing and filmmaking is it that keeps you coming back to do his films when you can make much more money doing other films?"

BEN: Well if I just did stuff based on just money alone, I would’ve done a lot of it and never would have done a lot of the movies I did. And you know some of them turn out to be good, and some didn’t work as well. I mean for one thing, Kevin’s writing is very distinct and I think we share a similar sense of humor, so I just find his stuff really, really funny and we also have a similar kind of sensibility. Also, nobody would give you like giant hunks of dialog to work with like Kevin does. You’ll find like one, two or three sentences are virtually a monologue in movies today. As an actor, maybe it’s selfish, but you want to be able to work more and I get that opportunity with Kevin, and whether it works of falls flat, its always interesting and fun for me to work on personally.

"Jon Moody" asks: "Do you think Kevin’s movies have made you more famous than say playing roles in movies like ‘Armageddon’?

BEN: No definitely not. The sector of people that know Kevin Smith or who are big Kevin Smith fans, often times seems like this huge presence on the Internet. When I go out on the world it’s very rare that people ever say to me or talk about Kevin’s movies. They tend to be in a certain demographic, like younger. The people that do know Kevin’s movies really know, and are aware of it and care about it and are more die-hard fans, but movies like ‘ARMAGEDDON’ have a much broader scope because they’re not as specific and they don’t have the same pointed, specific point of view. There’s a lot of people that just don’t identify with Kevin’s worldview.

"Sam Haddad" asks: "With your experiences in bigger movies and with bigger stars, how would you say your experiences with Kevin and the crew compare to the more larger budgeted studio films that you’ve worked on? Are these films any more or less fun or satisfying to do?"

BEN: Well he makes a very good point in the sense that from the very first time when I went and did ‘MALLRATS’ I was shocked. I was working with a guy for the first time who’s my age and it was easily the most kind of fun, good-natured, happy go lucky, just pleasant set to be on and initially then when the movie kind of didn’t pan out, I thought, "Well, there ya go. You can’t have fun or the movie’s gonna be a disaster." But it was the same when I did ‘CHASING AMY’, which did very well and ‘DOGMA’ and now this. It just makes it fun to come to work and I always think I do better work when I feel comfortable. Some people want to create drama, anxiety and tension and problems that’s like an indicator that they are, in fact working. Where as for me, I think I’m better the more relaxed and at ease I am and that’s definitely a hallmark of Kevin Smith.

"Belinda Hillard asks: Ben, any plans to write some more scripts now that you’ve wrapped ‘PEARL HARBOR’"?

BEN: (laughs) Yeah, actually Matt and I were just talking about that. I think the strike, in a funny way, whether it happens or not and even if it doesn’t happen, I think there will be a 3 month kind of de facto work stoppage because studios have more product than they need and no one will have prepped anything. So either way, it’s gonna be a kind of a summer vacation and I probably will take the rest of the year off. We’re making plans to… in fact we were just talking about that in the trailer today, we’re talking about what to do, what to write, and what kind of stuff we wanted to get into. So yeah, definitely.

End of Part 1 interview with Ben Affleck.

In Part 2, Ben let’s loose about his feelings on the pros and cons of fame and fortune, his thoughts on his last turn at possibly playing Holden McNeil, landing the role as the new Jack Ryan, and playing the odds at Blackjack.

I’ll also try and finish up my weeks end coverage as well.

Part II will hopefully find its way on-line later in the week. So keep an eye out for it.

-Mysterio

Listen ladies, I realize I turn you on fiercely, but you have to realize I can only pleasure 4 of you a night... so form a line and reserve your dates by clicking here!








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  • March 7, 2001, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Guess What

    by CrapHole

    your First you moron! I dint even read what thsi was about! i just wanted to be first..what a load of crap. People who say First are really screwed up..lets grow up huh? I used to do that crap in elementary school! Screw you..man I really wanted to be first! DIE

  • March 7, 2001, 3:05 a.m. CST

    See that's why I like Ben Affleck so much...

    by elwen

    He's a guy who doesn't forget his roots, good going...

  • March 7, 2001, 3:41 a.m. CST

    by martin_q_blank

    ...am I the only one who is finding Jay & Silent Bob a little tired now? I knew there was something rotten in Denmark when I spotted them in the lamentable Scream 3. Hopefully '....Strike Back' will be less visually shitty than Smith's previous efforts (The only way is up!). At least the dialogue will be better than average i guess.

  • March 7, 2001, 4:35 a.m. CST

    "You are not their friends"

    by Guerilla_Films

    That line that Lester Bangs lets out in Almost Famous seems to be the one thing that sticks with me from that movie as I read this column. I wanna see Mysterio's memoirs from this in a couple of years so you can turn it into a twisted film. Casey Affleck could play Ben Affleck.

  • March 7, 2001, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Dogma ...

    by timmer33

    Hi everyone. I am a big fan of Kevin Smith. Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy ... I really love those flicks. Remember the scene in Clerks where the video store guy has just realized that when the second death star blew up, it was filled with a bunch of innocent independent contractors? Classic. What I want to know is, what happened to DOGMA? Man did I dislike that film. You'd figure that with a target like organized religion you could make one hell of a movie. Frankly, I think it did better than his other films because of Matt and Ben. In terms of the script and directing, it was terrible. So tell me what you all thought about Dogma. Why did you enjoy it? In the immortal words of one Jack Burton: "Go ahead, insult me."

  • March 7, 2001, 6:10 a.m. CST

    six pages of dialogue

    by Uga

    Isn't six pages of Kevin's dialogue only one sentence? That shouldn't take long to shoot.

  • March 7, 2001, 7:26 a.m. CST

    I'm A Fucking Demon

    by castaway

    Timer33 you lay down the challenge and I will take it.....looking back at your post, you say that the script as well as the direction were terrible. Well, to that I reply you may be right. The reason for this is that A] this was not one of mr. smith's little meditations on relationships and how the world works; much like his past masterpieces have been; this was a combination lewd, action, comedy, drama film that dealt not only with one little facet of religion, but with several aspects of religion that the audience may not have originally been educated on (henceforth, the lengthy explanations and debates between Affleck's and Damon's angels as well as Heaven's players, the muse, the apostle, and the messenger) and B] since this was a chase movie and not a situation comedy (per se) then smith may not have filmed it in the best way since he is attacking an all-together different genre (what exactly does this say about his script for Superman Lives, I wonder? although I myself am enthused with the possibility Why did I like it you ask....well i liked it in general, everything about it. The film teaches those who are not experts on religion certain things (of course I am NOT referring to the claims made forth that God is a woman and that Jesus was black, but those are fun little anti-mythology things to think about now, isn't it?) such as plenary indulgence and the way versions of the Christain religion work (i know it only deals in catholicism, but that is still something right?) i liked all of the little details and even the amateur effects (which are proof enough in their b-rated nature that this film is not to be taken seriously; barring the opening credits about platipi of course). And all of the different characters were fun to watch and easy to learn of even though there were several. I got VERY excited when i first saw the trailer for Dogma, especially that opening image of Affleck cascading down the front of the cathedral with angel wings in full regailia (sp)and I for one believe the movie delivered on everything the trailer signaled it would and then some. Even though Dogma is not the normal Kevin Smith movie (and I respect your opinion Timer33) I still think it should be considered an honorable mention if not more so in Kevin Smith's ongoing career for the clever way in which the subject matter was dealt with and the pure originalty of the film and, well, I really hate to use this word, the hip status it showed it had in the trailer. Talkbackers, if you can name any other films in which religion was so well dealt with in a fully frontal, visible as well as whimsical way, please by all means name them, because if there are any others, than I would like to really see them...(cue Star Wars theme) Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, The Saga (of the Jersey Films) ends Summer 2001...(end with blaster special effect sound)

  • March 7, 2001, 7:54 a.m. CST

    This movie is going to suck

    by austinwave

    Didn't you guys see Dogma? I can't believe he even got a budget for this after that crap.

  • March 7, 2001, 8:05 a.m. CST

    It's true Dogma wasn't upto the quality of th others.

    by Mad Dog

    It's true the script read so very very well and it had a much more gradual pace to it in written form but the editing must have cut it to shreds as the film didn't play out as well as it could have. Hopefully when the dvd is released (If some kind soul will eventually reach in and pluck it from Limbo where it's been hanging for a month) all this extra film will be included and the true film will shine through thus exposing a tip top film. here's hoping as I'm still waiting for my copy.

  • March 7, 2001, 8:17 a.m. CST

    DOGMA thoughts.....

    by Homer Jay

    For the most part, I agree with what's already been posted here. I don't think DOGMA sucked, but its far from being my favorite View Askew movie. My problems with DOGMA were the acting (the exception being the scene with Damon and Affleck in the parking garage; pure electricity!) and some of the laughable, not-so-special effects. The shit Demon looked like something out of a bad Roger Corman flick (was it supposed to look that silly?). I remember in an interview some time ago that Smith doubted his ability to direct DOGMA because of the special effects, but Robert Rodriguez talked him into it. Maybe they should have co-directed it. On another note, I think Affleck gave his best performance in a film so far (GWH included) in CHASING AMY.

  • March 7, 2001, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Life of Brian, the search for the Holy Grail, just to name a few

    by tank-ass

    I liked all of Smiths movies, He's a great story teller, and don't compare him to Spielberg cause he ain't no Spielberg, thank god, I fucking hated Jurassic Park, and the sequel, and man, ET was just boring. And each film he's done has gotten better and better on the Directorial front, and if he's so bad of a director how does he get all of these big name actors to work for him, for peanuts no less? Hmmmmm?

  • March 7, 2001, 9 a.m. CST

    Affleck - Greenlight - Clerks

    by abner ravenwood

    At least Ben Affleck gives honest, straightforward answers. Which is, kind of rare these days. Most actors think so politically and say things like "Working with BLANK is such a wonderful experience and the great thing about BLANK is their ability to really give you freedom as an actor. BLANK knows what he/she wants but I feel comfortable enough with BLANK that if I have an idea about the character, I can go to BLANK with my idea, and tell it to him/her. And possibly, the idea will end up on the screen, where the audience watches it. And we all smile. Working with BLANK completes me as a person. I love BLANK." But Affleck seems to have a good sense of Kevin Smith and his work. His answers are grounded and truthful -- no bullshit. I used to think the guy was a real asshole. But lately, he hasn't come off as so cocky. With him and Damon doing "Greenlight", I have a little more respect for him. And Pearl Harbor does look like a good movie, even with that commercials and videos director Bay leading the charge. Anyway, in other news, I rented the CLerks animated series last night. My God, was it bad. Jesus Christ almighty, that thing sucked. Holy shit, they weren't kiddin' when they said it was god-awful. The colors and drawings gave me dry heaves but the writing was the real problem. It was obvious they didn't put much thought into it and you could tell they didn't respect or even get into their own material. They seemed to go through motions just because the idea of doing the show probably seemed cool to them but it never took off and they didn't seem to care. And the voice acting was worse than most porno actors. The whole thing was worse than watching an episode of "Small Wonder". It sucked.

  • March 7, 2001, 9:01 a.m. CST

    My honest opinion

    by IrishJoe

    In my honest opinion Kevin Smith is one of the best directors / writers working. His fims are all great and all flawed, but for me the flaws have got less and less with each new film. Hes only a young man in directorial terms and is learning his craft. Give him a chance . The dialogue he writes is so amazing ,thoughtprovoking, touching and at times so fucking funny its unbelievable. And if u cant just go to see a film to see Jay and Bob you should be shot. Mysterio is a lucky boy. p.s. Dogma was Smiths best movie

  • March 7, 2001, 9:09 a.m. CST

    The strange tale of Kevin Smith

    by mooch

    It's sad, but I just get the sense that Kevin Smith has not fulfilled his potential in his films thus far. I mean, he will always have his mention in a certain branch of film-history, no matter the various percieved failings of his films he will surely for some time to come be one of the lords in the Geek Tradition canon. But the bottom line is that, y'know, he could make his films better. He claims he is a writer rather than a director and seems content with his own pseudo-mantra "visually I don't have much going on - but I think I can write". Well fuck that shit man, that doesn't make it alright to not try. When I saw Chasing Amy, I had not seen that many films, but the way he shot the argument between Holden and Banky was my introduction to technique. I know it wasn't original or hugely brillaint to use handheld in this intimate domestic setting to create the kind of atmosphere he got blah blah, Jean Luc, blah blah trademark Woody Allen etc etc, but at least it was a choice, and it was effective, and it was something. Its like he doesn't give a shit, he actively ignores that side of things most of the time. But my real beef is with the lazy attitudes in his scripts, the way he seems to pander to women all the time. The first three films are about guys being fools and having to wise up and get their act together in order to deserve these goddess women. I mean y'know, he is a guy and you could say his films are male expressionist dramas, concerned with psychical insecurities and aren't supposed to reflect an objective, impartial reality, but you could just say that it's lazy, grovelling over-compensation and/or manipulative sexist excuse-making. The guys - much as they are overall likeable - are dickheads. Randall + Dante, Brody + Jason London + Mr Fashionable Male, Jay + Silent Bob, Holden + Banky. Maybe the only one to escape is the black comic book guy from Amy, but perhaps that's because he's gay and black. The women can all do no wrong - the problem they pose to the guys is their sexuality, which is what the guys have to learn to accept by the end of the film. Whether its sucking 37 cocks, cheating with jocks (the predatory, demonic "them" to our geeks' "us"), being given away on a game show, dating Mr Fashionable Male (another [d]evil personification of "them", dangerous, corrupting outsiders who do not bind themselves with the laws of geek chivalry) the same day she broke up with you, or - of course - Alyssa / Amy's frighteningly alien past, the Kevin Smith Guy is tortured by ideas of female promiscuity and must come to terms with the fact that he cannot control a woman's sexuality. Also his comedy writing is increasingly clumsy, relying more and more on repetition and running gags, it feels very formula a lot of the time and forced, jokes run through by using a second character as a wall to bounce dialogue off - and so often the jokes are just long explanations of some whimsical observation that is set up so predictably that you already get the idea long before the first guy gets through his explanantion. For me, Dogma exhibits everything that is wrong about Kevin Smith, and none of what is good about his previous films. From the predictable way Damon converts the nun at the beginning, through all the endless banal explanations of not particularly interesting thoughts, and that awful self-loathing masterpiece of a scene in the board room when the angels indict all the guys round the table for their heinous moral perversions and leave standing only one person who has led a good life: the sole woman. I am nevertheless fond of Clerks and Mallrats - though the latter represents Smith's first genre misstep and is his second weakest film. But Chasing Amy is the only time, in my view, that he has come close to his potential. There is at least a relaxed honesty there, it seems more real than the other films, not so much a sitcom style list of gags or artless genre blagging. Lets hope he finds his soul this time. Or at least looks for it.

  • March 7, 2001, 9:14 a.m. CST

    I can't wait for this movie

    by SilentBob X

    Great interview and I'm sure this movie is gonna do great this summer. Can't fuckin' wait. Snootch to the Motherfuckin' Nootch!

  • March 7, 2001, 9:23 a.m. CST

    How many stories does it take to cover this film?

    by pedant

    I am sick, sick, sick to death of the hype machine that is AICN hawking this piece of garbage. Yeah, I know, "so don't read the article." I didn't. I'm sick of looking at the fucking headlines. Why can't you put all Kevin Smith news on a separate page, linked from the main page via a picture of a turd or something?

  • March 7, 2001, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Great Coverage

    by RichNick

    Pendant, your objections are duly noted - now piss off. One article a week that covers the details of a film being closely watched by a large number of AICN readers is not too much too ask. If the headlines hurt your little eyes then surf on over to the dozens of other movie info web sites and leave the majority of the rest of us free to enjoy the excellent coverage Mysterioso is providing. If I have to look at headlines of 'Scooby Doo' every other day you can stomach 'Jay & Silent Bob' once a week. Great interview with Affleck, kudos to those who supplied the questions. I am looking forward to part deux. On the Dogma question, I have to vehimently disagree with those that had issues witht the script. IMHO the script was solid with great characters and an interesting storyline. However, pulling it off on film was tougher. Smith tried something different for him and he looks a bit amateurish on some scenes. Notably the aforementioned 'shit demon' and the 'Mooby the cow' boardroom scene which felt out of place (much like the original ending of Clerks where Dante is shot) and should have been cut. I think it was tough for Smith to cut any Afflect/Damon scenes though since they were the ones getting the majority of people in the door. Having said that I applaud Smith for trying something new and learning from the experience. Given that Dogma was a road picture with effects and it looks like J&SBSB is a road picture with effects we will be able to gauge exactly how much Smith learned on August 10th. My calendar is marked and I am looking forward to it!

  • March 7, 2001, 10:32 a.m. CST

    by pedant

    Here's the thing, though: There is such a thing as over-exposure. Once upon a time, I was interested in this film, but my interest has waned with each new report. Smith & co. would do well to ponder the effects of this much hype. Anyone who is actually interested in this much detail is probably motivated enough to look for it at viewaskew.com, where it belongs. Last time I checked, this was not aint-kevin-smith-cool.com.

  • March 7, 2001, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Clerks cartoon.....

    by Jarek

    had a lot of promise. I recently got the DVD of the entire series, and it is actually really good. It was hilarious and well written. To the guy who didn't like it: come on, the episode where they play baseball against the starving and beaten children was hilarious! Not to mention a flashback episode coming out as only the second ep. And what about where they do the Comic-con thing and talk about how much the show sucks, then go through an entire episode where they don't leave the QuickStop because there is simply too much "plot" outside?That's just my opinion though.

  • March 7, 2001, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Buzz Maverik Asks...

    by Buzz Maverik

    "Ben, is it true that the next film that you and Matt are going to make together is from a script you guys wrote called BURT REYNOLDS & CLINT EASTWOOD, with you playing a young Burt and Matt playing a young Clint as two T.V. actors/pals from RAWHIDE and GUNSMOKE who are eager to break into film but end up solving a mystery?" "No. That's probably some shit you made up, Buzz." "Can I have some money? Also, my friend Drop Kick Murphy would like Gwyneth's phone number."

  • March 7, 2001, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Buzz Maverik Also Asks...

    by Buzz Maverik

    "Ben, will you star as James Dean-like rocket scientist/black magician Jack Parsons in my film BABALON WORKING? And if you won't, can you get Matt to do it? Also, can you get me financing for the project. It'd be cheap. I'm planning to hire other talkbackers in key production roles, especially The Comedian and CoopCooper who have gone to film school and will know how to operate the camera and the editing terminal. I'm still the director because nobody can yell louder than me." "Do I have to get a restraining order, Maverik?" "You and half of Hollywood." "Do I have to call in Gavin De Becker?" "I laugh at Gavin De Becker! GIFT O' FEAR my butt!"

  • March 7, 2001, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Buzz I'll do whatever you want

    by holidill

    On that film idea of yours. I could be your stunt man! You can throw me off cliffs and shit!

  • March 7, 2001, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Voyage of the Mimi 2:The Return of PBS

    by RAVAGE

    There you go Ben go back to your roots with that peice of shit show you were on in the 80's.We had to watch that shit every week in school.Here's an idea for your sequel, do it in space with a Captain that has a receeding hair line.You can jump a canyon on some Asteroid with this annoying Russian.Then at the end you get the girl, wait you've already made this piece of shit.

  • March 7, 2001, 2 p.m. CST

    Nothing can kill the Grimace!!!

    by user id indeed!

    Love, love, love that "Clerks: Uncensored" DVD. My only beef is the commentary, which consists mostly of bitter resentments toward "the network", and a severe lack of input from Brian, Jeff, and Jason... but who cares? I could watch that "Korean ending" all day. "Oooh, we are slaves, he big mean man whip us!" I also liked the "Last Episode EVER!!!", where all those weirdos walk in and Dante and Randall can't leave the store, in an effort to make it more like the movie. "Do you have any guuuuum? Hee hee heee!" If "J&SBSB" is half as entertaining, I'm there... and if it's a success, maybe Comedy Central or something can pick up some more episodes! Hmm... ok, that's it. This has been a Moment w/Big Mac. "Will this administration ever bring the Hamburglar to justice?!?"

  • March 7, 2001, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Kevin you rock the screenwriting world

    by Alonzo Hawk

    Yippeee, I'm last, I'm last. NOw don't post anything else or I won't be last anymore.

  • March 7, 2001, 2:46 p.m. CST

    It is pretty sad how KSmith has to send his web PR team on here

    by austinwave

    I'm sick of reading all of these posts from Kevin's New Jersey friends saying how great he is. I guess we will see how great he is when no one shows up to see this movie except for his pals in NJ.

  • March 7, 2001, 2:47 p.m. CST

    I almost forgot how dumb the Clerks cartoon was.

    by austinwave

    And to think we had to listen to all of Kevin's BS on here about how ABC wouldn't give it its due. Now the world knows how it truly sucked, and ABC was just trying to save us all the pain of watching.

  • March 7, 2001, 3:33 p.m. CST

    martin_q_blank

    by not_a_jedi_yet

    Thank you for assuring me I'm not the only one here who feels that way. Why is this sight devoting such attention to a overly-niched little film about two totally non-interesting characters? Give me a break. Jay and Silent Bob have never been anything but annoying. Kevin Smith is a talented guy, and I guess it just hurts to see him wasting his time like this. Hopefully this will get it all out of his system.

  • March 7, 2001, 4:30 p.m. CST

    clerks the animate series was cool

    by gah rides again

    I loved the animation, it had a great style to it... The writing was good on the first couple of episodes but really picked up with the last four... They really hit their stride and it could have only got better from there... One of my favorite features of the disc was the festival trailer where they have the whole "the critics have spoken (without having seen it)" and they have a little knock at AICN talkbackers who feel it their civic duty to trash everything. I am a huge fan of Kevin Smith and haven't been let down yet. And with ALL the people announced to be in this movie so far, how can anyone seriously think that the movie spends that much time focusing on Jay and Silent Bob?

  • March 7, 2001, 7:12 p.m. CST

    austinwave......

    by Harpie

    Dogma did *NOT* suck. It's one of my favourite movies. Get some intelligence.

  • March 7, 2001, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Clerks Animated - Well Played...

    by Harpie

    My boyfriend got those DVDs a week ago and we've watched it a zillion times. They're hysterical. The anime ending to that episode is an absolute die-laughing-fest.

  • March 7, 2001, 7:33 p.m. CST

    CT Granville!!!

    by kessel2121

    Voyage of the Mimi kicked ASS! CT, Cpt. Granville, Arthur, Ramon and Sally Ruth!!!

  • March 7, 2001, 8:43 p.m. CST

    hahaha

    by gah rides again

    Well I truly loved Dogma and the Clerks Animated Series so my question is, how can you not? Everyone I have shown the cartoon to has liked it (even my conservative as hell sister loved episode 4) and my very Catholic friend who hated the rest of the View Askew movies loved Dogma... Kevin is mortal, but he's entertaining. Not a movie making God, but he's like the funniest friend you have, and it's great to spend hours around him. And I'm looking forward to this movie because I think it will tie everything together somehow while still being extremely funny... It's definitely a throwback to Mallrats so don't go in expecting another Chasing Amy.

  • March 7, 2001, 10:50 p.m. CST

    The Comedian, Sleazy G. and Hollidill...

    by Buzz Maverik

    Comedian -- fire that writer, I accept the job. My fee is one million dollars, a custom made Purdy shotgun and a new Chevy Suburban filled with Cuban cigars. Sleazy -- There's actually only two versions of the script, one that is more heavily about Crowley vs. WB Yeats (which could serve as a prequel) and one I reworked when I learned about Parsons, where Crowley is nothing but a shadowy presence. Hollidill-- oddly enough, stunts are probably the one area where I could actually get professionals since my nephew Skid Maverik is a motorcycle stuntman (he did the Globe O' Death at Circus Circus in Vegas with another rider) and he knows a lot of stuntmen. This film will be light on stunts because I want it to be as easy for me as possible. It does have a few rocket effects. How are you at special effects? All we need is Affleck and I'm sure that Anthony Hopkins will fall right in for the role of Crowley. You reading, Ben?

  • March 7, 2001, 11:13 p.m. CST

    I second that, Dirk. (And User ID... Do you remember your faaaa

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Right on, Dirk. I just couldn't understand how someone who was so dead-on in The Last Seduction could come off as such an amateur in Dogma! It's like she wasn't even acting most of the time. Especially, as you noted, in the restaurant with Rickman. It's hard not visualizing that Kev just told her, "No, let's not shoot the whole scene in your shot; I'll just say 'go', and you say the next line." Her only really decent moment was when she ran into the lake and threw a tantrum about being the last scion. That was respectable stuff. But just about every other scene in the flick... ugh. I just think Kev's gotta take the blame on a bad miscast there. OTHER THAN THAT, though... I still think Dogma was one hell of a fun film, and I really disagree with those who criticize the script. I thought it was one of the more intelligent screenplays produced in all of 1999. How can you watch the evolution of Affleck's character and think it was a shitty script?? I just can't wait to see the SE DVD (DAMMIT!) and finally be clued in to all the great stuff that was cut from the film. I think some of the ideas touched on in the movie were probably much more fleshed-out originally, and I'd love to see how it was all supposed to flow initially. And in regard to the Clerks: TAS discs... I have to admit I was somewhat non-plussed on my first viewing of the discs, but I soon realized it's exactly like so much of what makes, say, Saturday Night Live so fucking funny sometimes. You watch it the first time, probably by yourself, and you say, "Uh, ok. Whatever." BUT, come Monday morning, you go to school or work and when you start going over it with your friends, THAT'S when it becomes comedic genius. For example, I've already caught myself randomly exclaiming, "Oh my god! Bear is driving!" and simply giggling my ass off. And if you don't follow me on that one, then I guess it's just too bad. You like what you wanna like, I s'pose. Anyway... Lightstormer OUT.

  • March 8, 2001, 12:22 a.m. CST

    ACK! where's the Jason Mewes quote?!!!!

    by Tall_Boy

    don't hold on, man, that was some funny shit...

  • March 8, 2001, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Hey Big Bird, I've got your seed right here you winged beeyatch!

    by castaway

    To all of the haters and conspiracy buffs in this diluted house, i submit to you this....I for one am not one of smith's supposed little pr and/or publicity creators.....Hell, here's a statement that will piss you off.....I THOUGHT DOGMA WAS SHITLOADS BETTER THAN CLERKS....IT'S TRUE IT'S TRUE (tee-hee) don't get me wrong, clerks was a fairly funny and poignant look at the world, but i did not at all find it as engrossing as Dogma (the only joke i really laughed my ass off at was when that video store owner named off all of those porn films in front of that mother and kid when he was trying to order videos)that's right, you can find someone who has enjoyed dogma..while i have yet to see the clerks animated series, at first look from all the commercials, i would say it might suck because the whole concept of clerks was good for one movie and not as an ongoing, weekly series with different shit and situations every week (look at simpsons, as much as i love that fucking series i have noticed that stories are kind of drying up, even though they are getting more creative as new episodes are released. In closing i would just like to say EAT ME to all of those fucks who claim that there is a conspiracy involving the hyping up of Smith films....do you know why this site is hyping them up? because Smith's films are practically a godsend in today's hollywood world of bullshit (can i serve anyone here the semen filled pancake that was Head Over Heels, with an extra bit of congealed goat urine butter on top that is See Spot Run; geez, an executive could cum on a film reel and it would be greenlit by a big name studio for their July 4th tentpole in a summer full of nothing but diseased and distasteful disservices to the world that film should be....anyway getting back to the hype machine, how the fuck do any of us REAL talkbackers know you people who are claiming that we are smith's pr team are really other studio heads trying to bring down Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (hey, for all we know, you people could be Katzenberger's little eyes and ears spies working for Dreamworks trying in another feeble attempt to bring down Disney (not to put those hypocrites at disney on such a high pedastal (sp)) too bad your little studio got its ass whooped and its chest impaled when its film the Love Letter went up against another big studio (HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO PISS YOU PEOLE OFF.....TPM ROCKED YA FUCKING ASSHOLES.......) this is castaway transmitting from the unremitting island of San Caythar signing off

  • March 8, 2001, 1:08 p.m. CST

    this thread

    by CharmAttack

    Never heard so many whiners in my life...

  • March 9, 2001, 4:39 a.m. CST

    Charm Attack:

    by mooch

    You must be new to talkback.

  • March 9, 2001, 6:50 a.m. CST

    thank god for kevin smith

    by woodswench

    I cannot say when was the last time I actually waited in anticipation for the next film of a particular director! Not only are his films fun, but I find it refreshing that his films are dialogue based. I am tired of films that spoon feed the public with very little to say. Let's face it, name another big name director who would shoot a film in black and white with only 2 locations? I must admit that it is the dialogue that keeps me coming back! Conversation is a dying artform, and I find his humor and colloquay between characters stimulating and sexy! Keep them coming!

  • March 10, 2001, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Buzz Rules...

    by DropKickMurphy

    I liked his "Ben & Matt" idea which i'd audition for since i get lumped in that "MATT" category. As for Gwyneth, all i need is a bottle of Chardonnay and some Barry White and you'll forget all about that ketchup guy, awwwww yeah (in my best Barry White voice)