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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.


Pardon my borderline-hysterical reaction, but there's CONAN news. Here at the Moriarty Labs, we consider any CONAN news to be good CONAN news. According to today's story at IGN FilmForce, John Milius has begun work on a screenplay called KING CONAN: CROWN OF IRON.

In a perfect world, Arnold Schwarzenegger would reprise his role as the barbarian for this final film. I literally pray for this film the way some of you seem to pray for an INDY 4 or a GHOSTBUSTERS 3 or a ROCKY 6 (AB King... are you out there?!?), hoping against hope that I'm going to get a chance to see a great sequel to one of my favorite films. CONAN THE DESTROYER doesn't exist in my world. I just pretend it never happened. Me, I've been waiting all this time for the sequel that was promised by those last few moments of the original brilliant CONAN THE BARBARIAN, the sequel that would introduce us to that warrior king we saw slumped in his throne, crushed by power.

And now, we're a little bit closer to seeing it happen.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • March 1, 2001, 7:24 a.m. CST


    by mbg98

    I'm first.

  • March 1, 2001, 7:26 a.m. CST

    "I am the wellspring from which you son."

    by Kirk's Toupee

    This is good news indeed...But as its been stated a million times before....without Arnold why would just end up being like that crappy short-lived Conan tv hopefully this will pan out.

  • March 1, 2001, 7:27 a.m. CST

    PLEASE....don't let Ridely Scott direct this Jam

    by mooncake

    whoa! this sounds interesting. it could be a major kick *ss movie. hell it could be the comeback movie for arnie after the disaster 6th Day [i thought it was at least better than END OF DAYS]. but i got a question to throw at you guys, would you accept stallone doing it? he's got the physique too.

  • March 1, 2001, 7:37 a.m. CST

    "the lamentations of the women"

    by sundown

    its about time! I want to see HHH from the WWF as a villain. He looks like he's a chromosome short of a cave man. Oh and can we get Linda Hamilton in a loin cloth and give her a sword?

  • March 1, 2001, 7:54 a.m. CST

    Just say "No" to Arnold!

    by FlibbertyJib

    I know it's hard letting go, but Arnold is no longer right for the part of Conan. First off, he is in his fifties. Secondly he has lost over 55 pounds of muscle since the first movie and lastly he has grown into a much bigger star with a much bigger ego. Arnold would be bound to screw the movie by playing his various "it's gotta be done my way" cards. It's time to move on and find a new Conan folks.

  • March 1, 2001, 8:06 a.m. CST

    aging arnie

    by kylerayner

    I don't know anything about how much muscle he's lost since the first one (though that could be OK, depending on how much), but the fact that he's in his 50s should not be a problem if Milius is in fact working on a King Conan story. It would have to be many, many years later, and he should be in his 50s (or at least his 40s). In the King Conan comics, I remember his son, Conn, being 20; I don't know if Conan's age was ever specified. In the Barry Windsor-Smith comics, depicting his early adventures, he's pretty much a stripling (a tough, sinewy stripling, but a stripling nonetheless). Back in the world of movies, well, Conan the Barbarian came out in '82. So it's been twenty years. Just enough time for a barbarian mercenary to have amassed the wisdom and found his way to kingdom. If Milius writes the script with an aging King Conan, which I think would be very cool, Arnold remains fine, age-wise anyway. As for muscle and ego, well, that's another story. I would think Arnold would be happy to work with Milius again, especially considering, as I have read over and over here, they spoke on the DVD of desiring to do a follow-up. (And yes, Destroyer sucked.)

  • March 1, 2001, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Both conan movies sucked?


    Beastmaster was better? Dude, I have to get some of that crack your smoking! Beastmaster is the biggest friggin piece of crap wanna-be franchise I ever seen! The original conan the BB was a great film. Okay ignore the rant if you were kidding (god, I hope you are) and in case youre not, you should go back to watching the beastmaster TV series because thats the same type of fare you'd enjoy.

  • March 1, 2001, 8:31 a.m. CST


    by moviet00l

    The fact that he's older isn't a problem: it's perfect. This is supposed to be Conan in his later years, after he obtained his own kingdom. ***** The fact that he's a pipsqueak in comparison to his competition sized physique in the original: Not that large a problem, and I'm confident Arnold can get bigger if he wants to, ***** The fact that Arnold is a major star with major star power: okay, yes, this could be a problem. If this movie gets made and I hear one single snappy one-liner catchphrase coming out of Conan's mouth, I'll immediately puke and leave the theatre. If I even smell a fucking thief sidekick character used for comedy relief I'll send that puke straight to Arnold, because I won't believe the idea to introduce either one of those elements came from Milius. If Arnold lets Milius do his thing like he lets Cameron do his thing, we might finally get a sequel worth something. And bring back Mako.

  • March 1, 2001, 8:57 a.m. CST

    You wanna live forever?

    by PantingBuffalo

    I'd like to think in a perfect atmosphere Arnie would say " Sure, count me in for whatever." but that is'nt going to be the case. It's going to be " I need my 20 mil and some cool one liners" So as much as I hate to say it, if Arnie is put in this pic its going to get compromised. Gotta have the BK tie in's ,the action figs, blah, blah,blah. We need a new face, someone old enough to pull it off but still cool enough to make us believe. Honestly I dont think that guy exists, and that sucks to say.. shitty...

  • March 1, 2001, 9:08 a.m. CST

    If Arnie can't do it...

    by rossimus

    How about Jesse Ventura..seriously.

  • March 1, 2001, 9:11 a.m. CST

    What is best in life?

    by SilentBob X

    'To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.' I still can't believe it's been almost twenty years since that movie came out. I hate saying it, but this is the one role that Ah-nuld was born to play. I read some of the Conan comics as a kid, and his interpretation was great. The only thing I hate is that it took this long to make a sequel and finish Conan as a trilogy. Despite the mighty suckitude of Destroyer, Conan deserves another movie. And in my humble opinion, only Ah-nuld can play Conan(sorry Rock). It's about time.

  • March 1, 2001, 9:11 a.m. CST

    What is best in life?

    by SilentBob X

    'To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.' I still can't believe it's been almost twenty years since that movie came out. I hate saying it, but this is the one role that Ah-nuld was born to play. I read some of the Conan comics as a kid, and his interpretation was great. The only thing I hate is that it took this long to make a sequel and finish Conan as a trilogy. Despite the mighty suckitude of Destroyer, Conan deserves another movie. And in my humble opinion, only Ah-nuld can play Conan(sorry Rock). It's about time.

  • March 1, 2001, 9:46 a.m. CST

    We don't need this

    by IAmLegolas

    Yeah I am a big fan of CONAN THE BARBARIAN, but can you imagine how it would of been made in this day and age? CGI snakes, less blood, Arnold would of had total control over it... it wouldn't of been as great. But now that Arnold is frickin' old and if he is in this, he best be the King Conan in his older days. Better of have Basil doing the score again and using previous musical themes from BARBARIAN, use the same shooting locations...

  • March 1, 2001, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Best Line Ever

    by JudgeDredd

    Conan. James Earl Jones. "Cruficy him." And yes, "Conan the Destroyer" sucked. But Olvia D'Abo was a teen dream, baby.

  • March 1, 2001, 10:03 a.m. CST

    The ROCK

    by Jotham

    I would LOVE to see this movie made. I read somewhere that it was rumored that The Rock would play the son of Conan. I don't care either way. I just want the movie to kick ass. We need a good barbarian flick!

  • March 1, 2001, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Give me three things, and I will stand in line to see this film

    by B A Fett

    1) Arnold as King Conan, 2) Basil does the score, 3) R rated with lots of blood and some titties. No more PG-rated Destroyer crap-fest!

  • March 1, 2001, 10:08 a.m. CST

    Rocky 6?

    by wash

    LOL, good one, Morry.

  • March 1, 2001, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Conan the Desperate

    by Mockingbird Girl

    Ah-nold is so desperately looking for a hit movie that he's willing to recreate ANY of his earlier roles. Give it up, big guy -- you're a dinosaur.

  • March 1, 2001, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Arnold Won't Pull Any Star Crap On Milius...

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...because Milius always packs a gun and would probably use it.

  • March 1, 2001, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Ahnuld will happily do this movie if...

    by Cervaise

    (1) the producers keep the defibrillator paddles close by, and maintain a walk-in freezer full of spare hearts; and (2) they provide a corral of bosomy starlets for him to fondle and grope whenever he starts worrying that his pecker's been shrunk too small from all the steroids. Oh, and the big fat joint from "Pumping Iron," too. Check off these items, and Ahnuld will be first on the set every morning, cigar and psychotic grin firmly in place.

  • March 1, 2001, 10:41 a.m. CST

    It will suck because it WILL be PG-13

    by NYCrex

    The original was classic because the story was kept intact and not watered down by studio executives. There is no way they will ever produce a movie in Hollywood with that type of sex and violence again. Sorry.

  • March 1, 2001, 11 a.m. CST

    Sign Arnold, give him a great % on the back end...

    by superninja

    and absolutely NO CONTROL over the production, whatsoever. He needs to forget his "image" and focus on putting some effort into what could be the swan song of his career. There's nothing wrong with him launching with Conan, and there's nothing shameful about ending your career by making the best Conan movie ever. Milius is a competent screenwriter, and there are probably quite a few young directors (I believe the Wachowski's have been mentioned) that would jump at the chance to make this film. If they sign Arnie, and he doesn't try to strangle the creative folks, this could be a lot of fun. They can still do this without Arnie. I liked Ralph Moeller as Conan on t.v. The writing was pure crap, but I think Moeller has charm and a good sense of humor about himself.

  • March 1, 2001, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Hopefully Gladiator shows the suits that you can make an R film.

    by superninja

    Gladiator worked, whether you liked the film or not, and it's made a lot of money. It's an R film that has been critically acclaimed and embraced by the masses, so you should thank Ridley & Co. for that at the very least. Gladiator has made Conan possible.

  • March 1, 2001, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Deac Speaks..... FlibbertyJib you dumb bastard

    by Deacon

    how dare you complain about Arnold nmot being right for Conan cause he's 50... uh... if Milus is indeed writing the King Conan story then Conan IS in his 50's! thats the whole point! and no matter how much muscle arnold has lost, he could still kick my ass, your ass, harry's ass, and half the pathetic wrestlers in the WWF's ass... the guy may not be as strong ashe use to be.. but he looks younger and in better shape then my 42 year old father, which tells ya something! but unfortunatly this movie will never come to be for two reasons... 1. Arnold is needed to play Conan or else this will not work... 2. it needs to be bloody, gory, and naked! or else it just won't work (coughDestroyercough) and the fact that Arnold is a bloody republican and a jackass now (in the 80's he didn't care and thats why he rocked) so if arnold is in it... it will be PG-13 crap that nobody will like... if arnold isn't in it then they'll get some 30 year old dumbass to play the 50 year old conan and he's just gonna screw up no matter who he is, but you know it'll be THE ROCK... you know damn well they'll just cast him or some other wrestler... so no matter who they cast or what they do... THIS MOVIE WILL SUCK

  • March 1, 2001, 11:13 a.m. CST

    to the guy who recommended jesse ventura as conan...

    by Westrum

    trust me, he'd do it. i'm living in minnesota, and that guy is the biggest whore in the history of professional wrestlers-turned politicians. he's so busy using his political office for XFL, WWF, and all sorts of other personal money gains he doesn't seem to be bothering with actually running the state. for example, the University of Minnesota is currently one of the most technologically advanced schools in the country. many of its departments are ranked in the top 5, sometimes #1. and yet this guy wants to cut funding. if anyone makes him an offer to play conan, i guarantee he'll do it.

  • March 1, 2001, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I know I'm in the minority...

    by Batutta

    ...but I never thought the first Conan was all that great. I don't dislike it, it's just when words like brilliant and masterpiece are thrown around I have to speak up. Conan the Barbarian is a decent movie with one of the greatest film scores ever written...Arnold's acting is serviceable at best, laughable at times, but more importantly, physique aside, he doesn't really resemble the book's depiction. Conan was not dumb, and Schwarzenegger in the film looked dumber than a shoe. Still, the movie's got an interesting and consistent mood, and has got a pretty good final 15 minutes. And that damn score is just awesome. I'm hoping Milius makes a new Conan with Arnold, because I think he's a far better actor than he was in those days and much more able to do justice to Conan's intelligence...If not I think a beefier Hugh Jackman should play Conan.

  • March 1, 2001, 11:58 a.m. CST

    The Next Conan Movie

    by Juggernaut125

    I will look forward to this flick, only if they can bring back Andy Richter. Heh. Seriously though. I would love to see Ahnold go back to his sword swinging days. Conan, in my humble opinion is the one truly great comic book adaptation to film. (Burton's Batman sucked my sweaty left nut). What does everyone think of David Fincher directing this one? CROM!!

  • March 1, 2001, 12:17 p.m. CST

    I've got a practical question.

    by kylerayner

    No, we're not doing fucking "Stonehenge." ** Sorry. Irrelevant quoting out of control. ** My own practical question is this: Was Conan the Barbarian, the movie, adapted from the Conan books or the Conan comic books? Or was it not really adapted from either but based on one or the other? I seek not opinion but fact. Does Milius address this in the commentary? Is there some other record? Is there, fundamentally, a difference between the characterization in the comics and that in the books? (I read a Conan book once, but it was over a decade ago. I loved the Barry Windsor-Smith comics, which were, I believe, directly adapted from some of Howard's short stories. Great comics--amazingly drawn and, as I recall, very little dialogue, at least in the one about the white tower...)

  • March 1, 2001, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Arnold in premiere mag

    by Mr. Impossible

    Anyone read that article on Arnuld in Premiere? Made out to be a major ahole. Apparently he had a dresser on one movie who was not hired for his good looks. Arnold would make fun of him by saying: "sit you ugly dog." And the guy would do it! No one said anything in protest until a producer took pity on the guy and fired him to get him away from the steroid boy. Okay--could be made up. But then--that is pretty slanderous--so why dont they sue the mag? Could it be because they have witnesses? Arnold better make that conan flick soon--they say the pig valves they put in him will disintergrate after about ten years.

  • March 1, 2001, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Computer generated muscle!

    by Geekgrrl

    I agree that Ahnold is too much of a star and too worried about what his kids will think to make anything other than a watered down film, but I could end up being suprised. LOL Hugh Jackman would be good as a young Conan, but I don't think he's old enough to be King Conan yet. And aging makeup always looks so fake.

  • March 1, 2001, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I like Jackman, but he can't be everyone.

    by superninja

    Not if he wants a lasting career, that is. I'm surprised no one has suggested him for Scooby Doo yet. He shows up a least once on each board.

  • March 1, 2001, 12:39 p.m. CST


    by Anton_Sirius

    Honestly, better than Fincher would be Guillermo del Toro. But I think he's booked until, oh, 2106.

  • March 1, 2001, 12:58 p.m. CST

    You know...

    by Monkey Lord

    Wasn't there talk a while back about Stallone and Arnie wanting to work on a project together? Wouldn't it be a bit on the kickass side if they were to do it on THIS film? for thought....hom-nom...

  • March 1, 2001, 1:10 p.m. CST

    If theOak can keep his hands off the wardrobe girl's tits for lo

    by Pepperseed

    ...I might actually pay to see the old Kennedy wrangler in action.

  • March 1, 2001, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Never mind Conan 3, or even Crusade, let's have...

    by Salem Hanna

    I AM LEGEND!!! Come on Arnold, we all want it and you know you do too!

  • March 1, 2001, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Return to the source: Robert E. Howard!

    by BoltUpright

    I was really looking forward to the first mentioned, Arnold was born to play Conan, but the movie strayed too far from the original R.E. Howard material, and was ultimately a disappointment. I would prefer a remake to another poor imitation.

  • March 1, 2001, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Conan on the big screen

    by Amazing Kreskin

    I've seen Conan the Barbarian dozens of times on video (and now on DVD!), but I had an opportunity to see it on the big screen for the first time last Saturday, at an Edward Pressman film festival (saw it right after The Crow, in fact), and let me just say this: is one absolutely fantastic piece of storytelling. The fact that Milius is writing the script for the next one bodes well. And as so many of you have already said, if it's about Conan's struggle for the crown, an older Arnie is perfect. I'd actually much rather see him do this than Terminator 3. Destroyer was good popcorn fantasy fun, but Barbarian was myth and legend. Thank you, Amazing Kreskin.

  • March 1, 2001, 3:38 p.m. CST

    The Rock would both Suck _ and_ Blow as Conan

    by Pepperseed

    Arnie's accent was a big plus when he played the becodpieced one. The Rock's generic American tones would just kill the shit out of things. Like John Wayne: "Surely this man is tha son of Gawd"/ "Krawwm! SmackDayown/Krawwm/ Dairee Kweeen!/Krawwm/Vee-Yate!/ Krawwm"!

  • March 1, 2001, 3:47 p.m. CST


    by Aquilonia

    Said it a while back... and I'll say it again. It's a valid arguement that Arnold, and pretty much anyone else out there cannot embody the Conan that we all see in our minds. Why not look to the old Conan magazines and vote on the best artist's rendition ever made? How does an R-rated animated Conan flick with B.Poledouris music sound? I know the Wach. Brothers are interested in animation (isn't one of the Matrix sequels supposed to be animted?). It may sound strange, but animated movies are usually more believable than live-action. For one, you'd have to believe Arnold Swartzenegger is a Barbarian named Conan. can you really do that? An animated Conan is nothing BUT that: Conan. He hasn't made dozens of other movies, good or bad.. he's JUST conan. All that'll matter is getting the right voice actor. Preferrably an unknown.

  • March 1, 2001, 4:02 p.m. CST

    I Vould Like To Reschpondt To Der Premieah Magaschine Ahticle Yo

    by Buzz Maverik

    So vat is wrong mit ein little grabass? So I squeezed ein few dumplings, so vat? A man has needs. Mahriah ist ein Kennedy, so she knows how men ah. Und like eating, squeezing isn't cheating. Und like I was quoted in SPY MAGAZINE ein decade ago, some plow chobs aren't being unfaithful. Okay, vhen I blitzkreig between der Rhine und der Danube, dat's cheating but who did it huht...besides mein vife und kids, I mean, who vould even know about it if soam people vouldn't talk about it. As foah dat ogly hund ting mit mein dressah whom I offechtshunotly call Oinky, dat vas some hahmless fon. He vas in on der choke. He knows he's ogly. I vas sad vhen he got fiahed, vhich vasn't because ob oah choke but becouse he pisched me off, I might odd. I sent him ein very gut looking hookah und ein okay look hustlah in case he vas gay, being ein dressuh und all. So be shoah to vatch mein new show AHNIE on der Dubbya Bee! I play ein foamah circus strong mon who is raising ein brood of multi-racial kinder mit an old friend from mein carnival days, ein she-male played by Ahmet Best.

  • March 1, 2001, 4:47 p.m. CST

    This COULD Be HUGE!


    Been lurking here for years...couldn't resist chiming in on the film I've loved since puphood. This could be THE perfect vehicle for Arnold. His career is currently on its way down the toilet (assuming it isn't already floating next to a giant turd). He needs a good flick soon (note the B.O. on his last 3 films)or no more big salaries,no more press, no more power (which is ultimately I think what he has always been about). HE NEEDS A HIT. He fits the part perfectly, forget the physical description of Conan in the books (blue eyes, black hair, etc.) he is still strong but growing old and sotted. He has gubernatorial ambitions, this role may make a nifty little preview/practice run at exercising executive political power. A Milius script would be Awesome (I would base it on Hour of the Dragon, an original Howard Novella). I would give it to Milius to direct as well. Let the patterns from the first film re-emerge. It may take the Arnold ego factor out of it. DEFINITELY use the old score as a leitmotif, but have BP come up with some new music too. It must be OLD School SEX and VIOLINS tho...otherwise its lame. I think the project could be sold to Arnold as the perfect thing to revive his career - or end it on a great high note. Someone should call his agent...I bet its not as easy to reach him as when I called him at the gym right after he wrapped Conan the Barbarian and had a chat with him....But THAT IS ANOTHER STORY... PS. HE IS NOT Right for I AM LEGEND he should step aside and give someone else the part and take a producer credit of some sort.... That's It.... WWAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

  • March 1, 2001, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Jesus Fuckin' Christ

    by JonQuixote

    That's just about the funniest fuckin' thing I've read since Stallone said he felt there was an audience for 'Rocky VI'. Keep'em comin' Buzz!! (and I'd watch that WB least once)

  • March 1, 2001, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Laws of sequels means bad movie

    by Venture

    Following the law of sequels which dictates that the second movie in a series must be the best if the movie makes it to three (slasher and sports franchises excepted), THE THIRD MOVIE CAN'T BE GOOD.

  • March 1, 2001, 4:52 p.m. CST

    I show no mercy

    by Dairanger

    Just wondering, do you have any reason's for why conan the barbarian sucked? It usually makes for a more interesting discussion when you provide some reasons for your opinon. Good Day.

  • March 1, 2001, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Milius? good! Arnie? makes sense! but...

    by shnogul

    Yeap Milius back on a Conan script is a very very good news. Only few writer have proved they've got the right mood and the guts to write such wild primal feelings... is Arnold able to play an aging monarch who once was adventurer and warrior... well it sounds like a metaphoric resumee ot his life in a way. a buisnessman like Schwarzie won't need a lot of acting to imagine himself as a ruler.... and that's absolutely what I wanne see! not a come back to the 80's hero, but a more mature version of the cimmerian I knew then. an older one. different... but still with a barbarian soul... an interesting conflict I hope Milius will treat, with the vivid spirit we know him.

  • March 1, 2001, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Where's Sandahl Bergman?!

    by jskerr

    She should've played Red Sonja, THAT would've been a kick ass franchise. What would also be really swell about King Gonad would be for the ghost of Thulsa Doom to narrate and make a few appearances in private with Conan, you know, the way some guys talk to Bogey or Perry Mason or Captain Cook or somebody when they're pondering what to do.

  • March 1, 2001, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by shnogul

    of course I hope Milius would direct the movie. he knows how to direct his own scripts perfectly (remember the Lion and the Wind?). but please, please, mister Executive-who-knows-what-people-want, don't call John Woo, don't even think about including wire-fu sequences!... oups, perhaps I just gave him the idea. 'd better shut my mouth.

  • March 1, 2001, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Let me know your address, I_show_no_mercy. . .

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    . . .that I may sacrifice thee to Crom. Thy putrid blood shall quench the thirst of the Gods, and in gratitude they will grant my wish THAT THIS MOVIE BE MADE. . .ahem. Sorry. ^_^;; Got alittle carried away there. Anyway, as others have said, the timing is perfect for this film. Arnold is the right age, and probably desperate enough to do what it takes to create a hit film out of this. GLADIATOR proved that an R-rated actioner CAN make money; and with LORD OF THE RINGS on the way epics may come back into vouge once more. Give Poledouris the score chore and let him work his magic once again. And if it is at ALL possible to get Cameron on board. . .for the love of Crom, Allah, Cthulhu, Olodumare, Zeus, Yaweh and Wotan, DO SO. He does epics better then anyone this side of Speilburg, who probably wouldn't be interested in something like this. Oh yeah, and finally, this film needs at least a $150,000,000 budget. Gods I hope this works out right. It would be the perfect full-circle capstone to The Oak's film career. Then he can run for Governor!

  • March 1, 2001, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Oh, and. . .

    by Sith Lord Jesus

    . . .Bitchin' animation, Cartuna. *Sniff.* I miss you, Sparky. . .

  • March 1, 2001, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Read an article on MSN !

    by Raptorman101

    Yesterday Arnold is wanting to do another Terminator movie cameron is not interested so hes looking for another director !

  • March 1, 2001, 9 p.m. CST

    laws of sequels my ass

    by kojiro

    ...dude did you ever see Conan the Destroyer? Utter fucking shit. King Conan must happen. Question though. Why note call it Conan the King, Crown of Iron is good but a subtitle just doesn't seem fight with Conan, at least for me...

  • March 1, 2001, 9:14 p.m. CST

    kojiro you misunderstand

    by Venture

    I typed in haste so It's my fault for a misinterpretation. The law of sequels generally holds true in that the second is usually considered the best in the series if the series makes it to three film installments. Based on that law, I meant to say that the third movie will never get made because it would violate said law. Conan The Destroyer did suck, hence it would stand out as an exception to this universal truth if a third movie was ever made. Let Batman Returns be the sole exception.

  • March 1, 2001, 9:33 p.m. CST

    law of three

    by kylerayner

    I'm stumped. Indiana Jones: #1, great; #2, crap; #3, um, well, less crappy. Die Hard: only the 1st one right? Well, maybe same formula as the Indy set. Star Wars: Universally acknowledged that #2 is the best. I need more samples to believe this law. (Hereby acknowledging that I have way too much time on my hands.) Oh, wait, there's the Evil Dead movies; I'll go with #2 being the best there, maybe. What about the Phibes flicks? (Now we'll see who's on their toes...)

  • March 1, 2001, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Ah-nuld is Conan

    by Great Bandini

    I know a lot of you've already said this, but I guess I'll just be repetitive: this movie would save Ah-nuld's career...assuming he just lets Milius direct it in his own way...with his own queen...

  • March 1, 2001, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Soundtrack by ArnoCorps

    by swanky

    These guys are great. An austrian hardcore band that do songs about all of Arnold's films! I think they should be commissioned to do some soundtrack work. Check out "Crom (strong on his mountain)". So rad!

  • March 1, 2001, 11:17 p.m. CST


    by Venture

    Subject to dispute, I know, but . . . Wrath of Khan, Lethal Weapon II, Superman II, Godfather II, From Russia With Love, Aliens. Die Hard II is a valid exception (at least in my opinion), but Temple of Doom is subject to dispute.

  • March 2, 2001, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Conan the O'Brien...

    by Swithin

    ...seriously. Arnold isn't good for it anymore, he's just not cool. I would watch it if they could pick up some of the more recent bad-asses. Vin Diesel and Vinnie Jones (as a mercenary? It could work...) come to mind... Still, I love the comics as a kid and I found Arnold's portrayal good but independent of those. I mean, he doesn't outsmart wizards now and then, think through a situation like an intricate physical puzzle (calculating lung capacity, running speed, endurance, the time needed to throw an object as a risk, etc...) We need a 'smarter' Conan! Or at least a more deliberate, internalized one...

  • March 2, 2001, 1:57 a.m. CST

    If they make this then there's hope for HeMan2!

    by Darth Satan

    Anything Arnold plays in will turn to shit. He's a has been. I can't understand why any of you people would want him in another movie.

  • March 2, 2001, 4:25 a.m. CST

    isn't Conan a free license?

    by shnogul

    I mean, why do they have to buy any rights from stan lee media? I'm not very aware of the american copyrights, but it seems that instead of buying a comics adaptation, anyone could make a Conan movie based on the books without asking any permission as REH the original author died more than 70 years ago... shouldn't it be public domain now? If so, we could have various versions of conan made by different people with different point of view... that would be a real consecration for this character. Like Robin Hood or any hero, he deserves it. in fact, Milius' version isn't very faithful to the original character, though I like it. personnaly I never really enjoyed the choice of a bodybuilder. in the novels Conan is more lion than bull... anyways, I dunno if J. Cameron would be the ideal director. I don't think he would be interested enough... my choice would be to resurrect a young Franklin J Schaffner for his work in the War Lord (that was sword fighting!).

  • March 2, 2001, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Do it properly or don't do it at all...

    by WhoisJohnGalt?

    Long time reader, first time poster. Anyway, i always saw Conan in the video store during my teens, and never bothered renting thinking it was some crappy gladiator movie...just recently, i was convinced by a good friend of mine who is marginally obsessed with the film to see it, so i naturally bought the SE DVD and absolutely thought it was brilliant, with the 'what is good in life' quote being used most frequently....back to the point, do it with Milius or Stone, do it with an older Arnie, and let the people who know Conan, make it, and not some moron in a suit who wants to sell toys. And by all the comments, i think i just may never see Conan the Destroyer...just like i wished i'd never seen Robocop 3....

  • March 2, 2001, 9:52 a.m. CST

    As superninja pointed out, Hugh Jackman can't play everybody

    by JonQuixote

    Which is why the ideal Conan choice should be...Bruce Campbell!!

  • March 2, 2001, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Masters of the Universe: Homecoming -- check it out!!!

    by superninja

    A He-Man movie? God, I would love it if they did that right. There's the AMAZING Italian guy that actually was continuing the He-Man story and has the drawn comic pages scanned onto their site. GREAT artwork, cool story. He-Man is exiled from Eternia, Teela is married to a character called King Hiss and rules Eternia by his side. Skeletor and Teela are relucant allies, determined to protect Grayskull from Hiss (which is why she married him in the 1st place). He-Man returns, a bitter fellow, and reluctantly helps organize a rebellion against Hiss with the help of Skeletor.***Yeah, Destroyer sucked, but why is it that my eyeballs can leave whenever they show it on TNT? There must be subliminal messages in it or something...As for Conan being "smart", at the very least, he should be crafty by the time he comes about to ruling his own kingdom. I'm sure Milius isn't stupid enough to write the character like that anyway.

  • March 2, 2001, 11:01 a.m. CST

    If not Arnold....

    by usagi

    How about Vin Disel? Personally, I think it would be great to see Arnold "getting back to his roots" but if it isn't to be, I think Vin would be a decent replacement.

  • March 2, 2001, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Y'all stop picking on "Conan the Destroyer"!

    by Dave_F

    It's no epic like the first movie, not even close, but if you just take it as "one of Conan's many adventures", it's a fun flick. Recall the cool grunt-a-thon wizard showdown between the inimitable Mako and that other wizard. Go Mako! And what about the nonsensical-but-cool pose-off between Conan and that one member of the royal guard? Or Arnie's memorable "Enough talk!" line, right before he pitches that dagger into the temple priest? It ain't all bad! Arnie's still a total bad-ass in it, and Poledouris turns in an above average score, especially considering the smaller orchestra he had to work with. Sidebar: Is it just me, or do some of the musical pieces (notably the triumphant music during the fight in the mirror room) sound almost like they're from a Western flick? It's not like they feel out of place, but close your eyes next time you watch it, and tell me you can't just as easily imagine that music in "The Magnificent Seven" or somesuch. I suppose I'm just a little sentimental for the ol' "Destroyer". I saw it before I ever saw the original (rated R, and thus...forbidden!), and when I did finally see the original, I *still* preferred "Destroyer" because it had more action and faster pacing. And for a PG movie, there was even a decent helping of blood 'n' guts. Rest assured, "Conan the Barbarian" easily dethroned the sequal as my tastes matured (relatively), but let's cut "Destroyer" a bit of slack. It's not the Antichrist, just a more comic booky adventure.

  • March 2, 2001, 11:59 a.m. CST

    As for "Crown of Iron"...

    by Dave_F

    Hell yeah I'm hyped for it. Unlike some of you damn traitors, though, I'll accept no one but Arnold in the title role. Absolutely NO ONE ELSE! Robert E. Howard purists may balk at the Milius/Schwarzeneggar interpretation, but there can be no doubt that Arnold became a fully realized icon in "Conan the Barbarian". Arnold defined the filmic version of Conan, and I'll be damned if any Vin Diesel or bloated wrestler can take that role away from him. If Arnold won't take the role, then Milius should ignore the previous films and start from scratch with a more faithful adaptation of the book Conan. Or give the project to someone else. But, please, no grande finale to the movie Conan without Arnie. The WWF steroid-fiends can get jobs in "Beastmaster 6" and Vin can remake "Yor, Hunter From the Future", but Arnold OWNS THIS FUCKING ROLE. Savvy?

  • March 2, 2001, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Thsi could be the start of a new franchise.

    by Key_Card

    Seriously. Not for Arnold, but introduce a son of Conan. The guy that played Conan in that crappy short lived Conan TV series would be great. I think he was in Gladiator. Or a possible re-launch of a good Conan TV series. This might very well be a good thing. I'll see it either way. And did anyone seriously think The Rock was up for this. All the credit due to the man, he doesn't have the build for the role. Gimme a break.

  • March 2, 2001, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Viva Zapata Is Right About The Ending. Also The Destruction Of C

    by Buzz Maverik

    ...mirrors several images in the village sequence in PLATOON because Oliver Stone wrote the original script for CONAN. As for the ending being boring as somebody stated, I can see the point, but this movie was made before action became a genre itself. And it was made by thinking filmmakers, not a couple of hacks. When Conan comes up against Thulsa Doom at the end, Doom shows him the emptiness of his life. Doom has given him a reason to live through everything. But Doom miscalculates and Conan kills him anyway for no other reason than it is his destiny to do so. Doom's followers immediately disperse because when you've seen your god killed, you also see your own emptiness. It is the same thing in APOCALYPSE NOW, but without the implication that the killer has become the new god.

  • March 2, 2001, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Buzz, as always

    by superninja

    you are the light at the end of a dark tunnel. A dank, dark tunnel, that smells like mildew, or perhaps a dead rodent. Maybe something large. But you're what lights that anyway...