Feb. 26, 2001, 8:38 a.m. CST
Wow, rip up Series 7 huh? Maybe i wont go see it this weekened then...it looks so good though, well ya gotta trust Moriarty
Feb. 26, 2001, 8:49 a.m. CST
by fear of a ted
Hey Moriarty- how about a little synopsis of the movie before you launch into your tirade about it?
Feb. 26, 2001, 8:54 a.m. CST
by Boston Brand
Considering how on-target Moriarty usually is, I can't believe how much I disagree with him about SERIES 7. We clearly saw the same movie, except that everything he dislikes, I love -- the performances (particularly the amazing Brooke Smith), the cinematography, the lack of tedious explanations to set up the world, the house-of-mirrors ending. All the things Moriarty slams SERIES 7 for not being -- a stinging satire that hurts, a devastating critique of reality television, a story that works on its own terms -- are the things I think it triumphantly achieves. It's possible I was just in a receptive mood when I saw it, or that Moriarty was just in a bad one ... but either way, the AICN community should be aware that this movie has passionate fans as well as detractors.
Feb. 26, 2001, 11:53 a.m. CST
i saw the film too & don't agree with moriarty's analysis. first of all, i'm suspicious of any one who is a true reality tv fan. but that being said, i think viewing series 7 as a direct take off of this current batch of reality shows is wrong. minahan wrote this several years ago before all of the current madness went into vogue. i think it intentionally creates an alternate universe where the questions are left unanswered & clearly something disturbing happened in american society to allow such a show. and in the film, the characters clearly state that they don't have a choice. we make our own inferences. i can't believe you're ragging on starship troopers which is pretty stunning satire in my opinion. anyway, if you're searching for more belly laughs - i recommend looking at the web site for series 7 which has some hysterical clips in the "training manual" section that aren't in the film featuring two characters that seem to be invented just for the site. series7movie.com i also am fond of the body part game.
Feb. 26, 2001, 12:07 p.m. CST
by True Jew
Series 7 is a laugh, a guffaw, a dark satire with some very funny moments. What about when the Lindsey the 17 year old girl thanks her boyfriend for the bulletproof vest and explains how much it shows his love for her, or her parents cheering her on....what are you going to do? Kill that motther.....go,go,go,go. Maybe your funny bone was a little sore they day you saw the film? thumbs up.
Feb. 26, 2001, 1:31 p.m. CST
Without coming out swinging and saying Series 7 was the Godfather, I do think we need to remind ourselves what we're dealing with: A dark spoof! Isn't the use of satire an effort to slap everyone in the face? Some see twisted humor as "art" and in a strange way, it almost evades issues of criticism. It is about opinion and throwing a punch. Really, It's a pretty unconventional movie. I think it will be greatly applauded from a "cult-like" angle and that's not necessarily the kiss of death. Oh, might I add: Trust me I don't spend all day watching Pink Flamingos. Per the comment of Hedwig - I couldn't agree with you more. Love it before it's even out (pun intended). Opinions are delicious, Moriarty, keep 'em comin. But like ****oles, everybody's got one. :)
Feb. 26, 2001, 2:16 p.m. CST
I want to say just one thing about BATTLE ROYALE...I haven't seen this movie, and with American Distributors the way they are, there is a good chance I never will. But NEVER has my jaw dropped to the floor simply from reading a SYNOPSIS of a movie before. This movie, if I ever get to see it, will either leave me in artistic rapture or disgust, but it will definitely leave me enraged at society as it is. What I find most disgusting about the whole thing is that some studio head somewhere is going to say that it can't release the film because it shows kids killing each other with GUNS. Just wait, one of them will (and if I ever see that man, I am going to fight him). Never mind that these are the same studios that market movies like THE MATRIX at teens (and younger), in which cops are brutally mowed down with guns because, and I love this excuse, "they're not real anyway." (note, I personally LOVE that movie, but I would NEVER let my child see it until that child was an ADULT. There, my friends, lies the fine line between freedom and responsibility, and if you are one of these parents, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO RAISE CHILDREN, YOU ARE UNFIT). However, I get the feeling from the reviews I've read of BATTLE ROYALE that the film is decidedly ANTI-violence, and ANTI-gun. Which is EXACTLY why it needs to be seen. Whether it is championed or vilified is irrelevant, whether it makes money or not is beside the point, whether it angers people is EXACTLY the point. Thank you Mori for the best review I have read on this site in a year, you know this to be true because how often do I show up in the Talkbacks anymore anyway?
Feb. 26, 2001, 3:25 p.m. CST
by xavier masterson
I used to watch it when I was a kid and still can't get that gloriously bad theme song out of my head. To think that the guy who directed it is the same man responsible for making a movie that spawns this much discussion hurts my head.
Feb. 26, 2001, 5:51 p.m. CST
by Wee Willie
sophisticate nor intelligent enough to take a film like Battle Royale. I can already imagine the public outcry, the pointless rhetoric that will fly over the airwaves, the solemn, pompous speeches by members of the press, the hammering of shoes on desks in congress. All of which will not be about the film itself, no, all of this noise and fury will be about the "CORRUPTING INFLUENCE" of the media. You yanks have an amazing capability to miss the point. Is it your sub-par school systems? Or is it the fact that your shameless pursuit of material wealth has bludgeoned you into a stupor from which you cannot discern any meaning unless it's encapsulated in a five second sound byte? Oh well, those of you that have a few remaining brain cells that haven't been dulled by the collective assault of television, advertising, pornography, and NRA infomercials will be able to buy the damn thing on Amazon dot com for fifty bucks US in a few months. Tough break, kids.
Feb. 26, 2001, 9:27 p.m. CST
No, not any of you (not in this tb at least), but rather all those fucks trying to censor violent material. Perhaps some background will help. At the age of 6 my favorite movie was Red Dawn. At the age of 9 I was reading a series of books by Vietnam war vets in which mutialtions, castrations, torture, and whoring were described in detail (given to me by a friend of my father who was himself a med evac pilot twice shot down). I have a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and am learning Judo and Aikido. My foremost desire in life is to become a US Army Ranger. Acording to the judgements of those who wish to censor the materials in question, I should be a danger to society. Yet I abhor unnecessary violence. The last time I struck someone else in anger was in elementary school. Since then I have not been lacking in situations which could have ended in a fight. Each time I either talked my way out of the situation or swallowed my pride and walked away. I could have killed a couple of people who thereatened to do the same to me, had the rifle in my room to do it with. Is there any question why I wasn't in any danger of doing so? There shouldn't be. Despite the violent media I entertained myself with at a young age I myself am not violent because my parents instilled in me a sense of empathy and a rational decision making processes. And trust me on this folks, it doesn't really take much effort for parents to do so.
Feb. 27, 2001, 7:51 a.m. CST
Really, who really cares about these shitty ideas for films? Why waste words trying to review them? They suck shit. Ohh, lets go see that film 'cause children kill themselves. Big deal. It pales to the reality of our daily lives. Reality based movies with scenarios are not stories, they are gimmicks created just so some brain-damaged fuckwads (like Harry) can get their jollies by watching that sort of shit. They are not even reality based. They are a made-up fantasies masquerading as a narrative. Look! I've wasted my time even bothering! If people go to see this shit, more of it will be made. Heed my words people. Art not shit.
Feb. 27, 2001, 8:06 a.m. CST
Admit it, people are twisted. Americans are twisted. 10% of the population are most likely serial rapists and murderers. Don't tell me that violent films have no effect on the youth of today. You are an ignorant spaz if you can say that. Basically we are animals. Some such thing let us know that perhaps we have a soul. Some people are sheep and believe that and stick to their evil ways. Some, on the other hand live day by day, looking for fresh meat. However, there are a few people born without a conscience. They are scattered here and there to thin the herd out. These are the hidden Hannibal Lechters slinking about in the dark, hunting. These fuckers learned at a young age with television, then small birds, then the neigbor's pet parakeet, that it is fun to kill and skin stuff. Some may even find that necrophilia is fun, or interbreeding is okay, or that its okay to be aa satanist. Organized religion and alcohol are probably the worst things ever known to mankind. I know this is hard to beleive, but look it up: 80 percent of the people that murder, rape, and rob, have been found to have some level of fetal alcohol syndrome. I fucking kid you not. Get rid of booze, get rid of most violent crime.
Feb. 27, 2001, 9:49 a.m. CST
by Black Francis
I can't beleive that some people out there are rooting for Series 7 and think that it is a good flick. I guess, it is the opinion of these people that, if it's indie, it must be good. When I saw this movie about 4 months ago at a screening, no one I was w/could find anything remotely good to say about it aside from the 18 year old was hot. I was just another lame attempt to be witty and 'groundbreaking.' Whatever. As much as all of those reality shows suck, I would rather watch a Puck, Kimmi, that black guy from Big Brother and all of the Temp Isle people hanging around watching tv in their boxers that sit through that again.
Feb. 28, 2001, 5:30 p.m. CST
kojiro, be cool man. Wee Willie, all of the above, from what I've heard 20% of Texas high school students don't know what country is directly south of them. Does that give you a clue of how fucked up my "education" system is? Were reading The Grapes of Wrath this semester. It's an excellent book, but I'm 75 pages ahead of everyone else. Why? My guess is that they are just following along with the guy on the tape. Your trying to tell me how fucked up my "education" system is? I have first-hand experiance.
Feb. 28, 2001, 8:57 p.m. CST
by Emmit Devay
You know, after seeing the trailer for this, and reading all of the reviews and what not, this seems to me to be just a violence for the sake of violence. I am not saying do not make this kind of movie. I just think that, for me, it is a bit excessive. The trailer looked like the Lord of the Flies on crack and meth. I just think that it is pretty dang silly to make something like this. Just because you can do something does not necessarily mean that you should.
Feb. 28, 2001, 10:23 p.m. CST
With regards to all this nihilistic crap that gets passed off as art (and the people who support it)- There's nothing wrong with society. There's something wrong with YOU. Deal with your own fucking problems and don't try to pawn them off on everyone else by calling them "art". I'm speaking to whoever the fuck it applies to. Stop sucking your thumb and DEAL. You want to make the world a better place? That's easy- shut the fuck up. I'm serious, just try it, you'll be amazed.
March 2, 2001, 7:45 a.m. CST
June 17, 2001, 10:13 p.m. CST
by Theora J.
This was a really sweet movie, quite silly in parts, and the violence was not that bloody. Graphic on occasion, but it wasn't any worse than any splatter movie to come out yet in the US. I don't even think it's that horrifying. You had all of these strange dying declarations and admissions of true feelings like in "The Breakfast Club" or something. It was a good satire for those with sufficient intellect, and the typical splatter-fanboy Fangoria droolers will enjoy realistic effects. A date movie for the 90's!