HERC'S Got Exclusive ANDROMEDA News!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
I have never seen this show. HERCULES THE STRONG seems to like it. Think maybe I should let him talk?
A set mole brings us EXCLUSIVE news about that which Hercules the Strong considers this season’s best new science fiction show and the best drama in all of syndication, “Andromeda!!"
1) Look for “a fairly big reveal” of hot purple catgirl Trance Gemini’s mysterious (and much-remarked-upon) origins in the season finale.
2) The finale will also feature a return appearance of Enigma, the impressive-looking energy-dude who turned up briefly in “Harper 2.0.” Look for Enigma to grow into this series’ first “big bad.”
3) It turns out Trance has a connection to Enigma! (This, of course, would explain why Trance was so anxious to see Harper’s brain-data destroyed in “Harper 2.0.”)
4) The finale will also reveal Enigma's relationship to the Magog and the fall of the Commonwealth.
5) Best for last: Another highly-reliable source indicates that a Mr. Bruce Campbell will guest star during “Andromeda’s” second season! Campbell, you'll recall, also played Autolycus opposite “Andromeda” star Kevin Sorbo on at least a dozen episodes of “Hercules: The Legendary Journeys.”
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Feb. 22, 2001, 8:50 a.m. CST
I think that I would like the show if the costuming wasn't so *lame.* I've tried to watch the show several times, but the lame, lame, lame looking aliens irritate me. And what's with the bad Rocketeer reject uniforms? And Hawaiian shirts? Hawaiian shirts and Fruit of the Loom undershirts, for Pete's sake! And when I see such lame costuming, I start to see lame dialog and lame acting as well. Geek opinon rules!
Feb. 22, 2001, 9:29 a.m. CST
I've really, really tried to like this show. Hell, it's got Rodenberry's name pasted in front of it, it's got Sorbo, but it's also got poor writers and dumb, unbelievable characters. That's what kills a show in the end. You could have the worst special effects, the lamest costumes, and the cheapest sets and still have a hit show, "IF" the writing is good. This show has all I mentioned above Plus poor writing. To bad.
Feb. 22, 2001, 9:58 a.m. CST
Besides X-Files, of course, no other show has come out of the blocks as well as Andromeda. (Did FarSpace? I just started watching that show...) The premise of the show is interesting and has a lot of possiblities. So far, the cast has shown that they can work together and that each character has their own motivations. Yeah the special effects need to come around but that will come with time. I think the one weak link hear is Sorbo himself. However, the character might develop into something Sorbo is more comfortable with. Anyway, I hate TV and this show hasn't lost my interest yet like the Star Treks have or any of that other cut rate shlock that passes itself off as Sci-Fi but uses women in bikinis. Anyway, thats what I think. Go for yourself. Zubalove OUT!
Feb. 22, 2001, 10:37 a.m. CST
I kinda like Kevin Sorbo. He's in that realm of not quite Hasselhoff and not quite Shatner. I think he's decent leading man material, plus... this show has kind of grown on me.
Feb. 22, 2001, 12:03 p.m. CST
by Wicked Raygun
Despite a pretty cheesy pilot episode, Andromeda has been very enjoyable. The cast seems to be developing a great on-screen chemistry. I still have a few nit-picks about some of the designs of the show, though. ( Namely with the aliens and the wardrobe.) But other then that the it's coming along nicely. BTW, does anyone now if the actor who plays Harper has done any previous work because he looks so familiar and yet I can't place him.
Feb. 22, 2001, 12:09 p.m. CST
by Big Andy
Harper is played by Gordon Woolvett. He is a Canadian actor(like most of the cast of Andromeda), and Sci-Fi fans probably know him as REB from Deepwater Black. Also on that show was Nicole DeBoeur who was the final Dax on ST:DS9.
Feb. 22, 2001, 12:51 p.m. CST
In answer to your question, yes, Farscape came out better, but just barely. Actually it shares many of the same pluses and minuses with Andromeda. I didn't think Ben Bowder could act in the pilot, but he's since proven an excellent lead. Can't say I like Sorbo's wooden acting much, but he's used to acting with his pecs so it takes him a while to get used to clothes. Of course, I may be wrong and the shows are going neck and neck now. You see, I've missed a ridiculous number of episodes of Andromeda obviously because I never saw this Enigma character(he might be a big bad, but no one can top Farscape's Scorpius). Damn syndication. First they aired Earth: Final Conflict out of sequence until it was totally unwatchable, now its a chore to catch new Andromeda eps. Do the syndicators hate Gene Roddenbery stuff? Is Harlan Ellison in charge or something?
Feb. 22, 2001, 2:04 p.m. CST
Kevin Sorbo = ratings, bottom line. His character isn't half-bad but the craptacular aliens and so-so slick special effects are boooring. I caught the first three episodes, and wasn't impressed.
Feb. 22, 2001, 2:12 p.m. CST
There are many, many shows on t.v. that are entertaining, meaning you can watch and episode, get into it, and forget about it. But to plant your ass in front of the t.v. every week, that takes something (unless all you do is sit around watching t.v. 24/7). Entertaining and good, however, are two different things. T.V. is the land of mediocrity, and sci-fi is one of the worst genres out there.
Feb. 22, 2001, 3:52 p.m. CST
by Hello Kitty
What does this mean? Am I missing something, or was this the only new sci-fi show this season? If so, then saying it's the best is identical in meaning to saying it's the worst. Either way, the show is lame, and has thoroughly bad writing.
Feb. 22, 2001, 8:05 p.m. CST
Andromeda is a show that has potential, but the writers really need to get their asses in gear if they want to retain, let alone gain, viewership. Earth, the Final Conflict is a show that's really good sometimes and really lame other times. It got booted from Saturday night to Sunday night here in Milwaukee because they think people would rather watch The Cindy Margolis Show (mindless twenty-somethings prancing around scantily-clad to hip-hop music, for those who haven't heard of it). BLEAH! A bunch of south-siders must be in charge of programming at that station! Actually, I'm surprised that the "Fall of the Federation" of Star Trek was not brought about by the Dominion. Actually, part of me was secretly hoping the Dominion would win. Nothing against the Federation, but there are times when the Founders' way of doing things makes a lot more sense.
Feb. 23, 2001, 1:18 a.m. CST
by Sir Mordred
I like Andromeda, and I'm not surprised or ashamed. It is a good show, with good costuming, good acting, good writing, good FX. First of all, Farscape is a fun show, but it's not a standard, it's entertaining and pretty good. But one thing that makes Andromeda 5 times better than Faarscape is their not putting the characters together. Sure, the ship loves her captain and the captain admires the ship, but not every single person on there is hooked up. They could have put Trance with Harper and Tyr with Beka, but they haven't and they won't; maybe they'll do the Trance Harper thing, somewhere down the road. Secondly, this news story isn't true, nor is it news; anyone who has seen Harper 2.0 nkows basically all this stuff, cept teh Bruce Campbell part. While I like Bruce Campbell, he wouldn't fit on this show, nor would I think he actually get on it. Bruce has a lifelong partnership with Sam Raimi- the classic Evil Dead series. And Sam is good, but all his shows turn out to be slightly farsical. Thirdly, X-Files isn't that great. Oh, go ahead and cuss me out, I don't care. All XF is is just conspiracies and secret gov't plots- i thought for sure we'd seen it before- oh wait- every sci-fi show that wasn't made by Rodenberry. As for the fall of the Federation, that's kind of close, but hten so far off. The Commonwealth fell apart from the inside, and it was founded by an alien race 10,000 years before hunmans ever knew about it. Also, i have to say that I love the costumes. I mean, they got hot actresses, why not use em? And I like the dark shades. As for new crewmembers, the sad fact is that they cost money, and I don't think Andromeda- or anyone else for that matter, has a lot to throw around. Oh, and one more thing, Grinch King you rock! Dark City was far better tahnt the Matrix ever could be. It had a sundtrack! Oh, and the sequels will suck, because John Woo. oh no, what a sin I've committed, the only genius of teh Matrix was the insightful and intuitive direction by the Wachowskies- oh and the dead on casting of a complete moron for Neo- i have to compliment teh casating director on that, he fit perfectly. John Woo will bring nothign new to the table, just more money and more blood, and frankly, that's not what we need. Now back to Andromeda, I didn't notice the Mission Genesis Connection, but thanks to whoever pointed it out. In case you don't know, that was teh Sci-Fi channel's first attempt at an original show. It was a 30 minute teen drama with Nicole De Boer and Whatever his name is. In Canada, and on the reruns on Trio- it's called Deepwater Black. As for Andromeda, It's been great so far, because it's open to more people and it is heading in all teh right directions. As for yoou who don't like Sorbo; he can act, he is just too uncomforatble in the thong (he said so on Leno) and he isn't used to being unlathered (as he was on Herc). And another thing, you can't expect any show to be great, with great writing. Aaron Sorkin and The West Wing IS the best show right now- its a close reace between it and SportsNight for the best recent show. But genius only comes around ever so often. Sorkin is genius. The writers at Andromeda are good, some of the best out there. Only one genius makes it every ten years. And if you ever want to talk to the writers, two of them normally are online at Andromeda's homepage: http://www.andromedatv.com
Feb. 23, 2001, 1:48 p.m. CST
Andromeda the best syndicated series for this year? That's sad. It's fun to watch, but it's no B5. Am I the only one to notice how proposterous it is for a crew of half a dozen can run a ship that initially required a crew of thousands? Doesn't anyone think that the commonwealth wouldn't have had a large crew on board if it wasn't necessary? Oh yes I'm sure I'll hear that the crew was probably replaced by Androids and AI. But really... It would have been better if Becka had a full compliment of crew to fill positions. Oh well, at least it doesn't have cheesy puppets like Farscape.
Feb. 23, 2001, 2:35 p.m. CST
I haven't seen too many Andromeda shows except the pilot and the first half of Harper 2.0, which is odd since it seems to be a popular episode. The most important thing I've been able to grasp from this show is that the actress who plays the ship is UNBELIEVABLY AND ALMOST UNNECESSARILY GORGEOUS, and I would have to say that the other lady crewmembers are also MIND-SEARINGLY HOT. Oh, the nervous breakdown I'd have if someone "forced me" to apply the blue makeup on the Trance Gemini actress! I think they can all act to some degree, but I'd be lying if I said I paid that much attention to the depth and feeling they projected talking about wormholes and event horizons. Hell, these women could spout super-deep lines like, "I like to eat cereal for dinner," or even "Oomby goomby," and you know what? They'd still all be bad mama jamas. And for that, I'd say that the 1 1/2 shows of Andromeda I've seen are indeed four-star television. (P-Bomb's TV Ratings Disclaimer: I never expect anything life-alteringly touching or educational when I watch the tube. Ever. In the 0.05% of TV I watch that accidentally pulls it off, then I deem it five-star.)
Feb. 23, 2001, 3:03 p.m. CST
I don't watch films for the soundtrack. Although Dark City was good, it wasn't better than the Matrix, and it wasn't all that original in the realm of science fiction. At least not in the literary world. I reserve judgement on any Matrix sequels. I agree that Keanu Reeves usually has the acting capacity of your average gnat, but he did just fine in this movie. Maybe because there were no vampires, accents or Shakespearian lines involved. I also enjoyed the trivial details included in the Matrix, the forshadowing names, and the many levels on which the story could be interpreted. I did not have the same experience with Dark City. I felt the "message" of that movie was about as subtle as the gunfighting in the Matrix. Andromeda has not suspended my disbelief yet. I hated Bab5 the first season, and later I grew to love it - so maybe my opinon will change. Maybe the make-up and acting will improve, too. I don't put "broad appeal" as one of my criteria for liking a show. That's basically saying, you should like this show because everyone else does, isn't it? But at the same time you're saying you shouldn't like the Matrix, because everyone else did. Make up your mind!
Feb. 23, 2001, 11:14 p.m. CST
by Sir Mordred
When I say broad appeal, I don't mean everyone likes it. No one here does, with the exception of Grinch, me, and the pervert. What i meant is that it is more accessible to an audience that did not grow up jacking off to Star Trek (even though I did). And the subtle meansing of the Matrix. Names like Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus are no where near subtle. Anyone should know that. I don't remember any subtle meanings in Dark City either, but I liked it better. It's simply that. And Blade had better FX than Matrix- or should I say better ideas. They came up with the ideas that Matrix built off of. All I mean by that is give credit where it's due. Again, back to Andromeda, it's made in the same fashion as LOTR (Lord of the Rings) and Star Wars. I mean only by having a universe made with a distinct and followable history behind it. Plus they all have a noble warrior race. For LOTR its the Numenorians, for SW it's the jedi's (and if you didn't know that, leave now, cause this is basic stuff), and for Andromeda it's the High Guard and the Nietzscheans are the dark side- kind of. I might as well add B5 into this because they had the deep history which wasn't shown until half way through the first season, as well as it having the An'La Shok. To tell the truth, i just have to love a universe where there are groups like that that run around saving everyone- I loved Space: Above and Beyond too. Oh yeah, by mass appeal i meant- wait I already explained that. People who normally watch Ally McBeal might not like it, but they can easily come to understand it. And if you watch Ally McBeal, leave now cause you don't have the right to post. Ok, I'm done.
Feb. 24, 2001, 11:36 p.m. CST
by Sir Mordred
I made a whole - at least a topic bout it. Andromeda is inderstandable to everyone- not just SF fans, but not everyone likes it, or else it wouldn't still be in syndication. I thought I explained that. Oh well. By the way, Seven Days doens't really count in this category, cause it sucks. Sorry if I alienated you Grinch, but I have to say my mind. I saw maybe 5 eps of it the whole time, and not one of them was good. Andromeda doesn't have drop your jaw and change your life eps like West Wing, but it's damn good.
Feb. 25, 2001, 9:07 p.m. CST
Alright, I'll admit it. In a lot of ways I honestly like BG 20 years ago, (although I still remember sitting in my apartment with my buds and yelling at the screen "BRAKING FLAPS??!!" Anyway, I think that if Mr. Singer takes a more complex approach, i.e: the Cylons have their own political factions (as in B5 first season when we weren't sure whether the Minbari were good guys or bad guys), as well as other human and/or alien cultures they encounter along the way plotting and counter-plotting for galactic dominance with the Galactica fleet the Jewish refugees of the piece fleeing genocide, and of course the obligatory Super Powers behind the various goings on (i.e, Arissia-Eddore/Vorlon-Shadow); in other words God and the Devil...this could get interesting, as well as being good commentary on the global politics here and now. We'll see...
Feb. 25, 2001, 9:10 p.m. CST
Heh..heh..guess I'm just tired..heh..heh..wrong talkback
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