Jan. 16, 2001, 6 a.m. CST
I dont know Moriarity, Tomb Raider, I dont believe is going to be anything to shout about.. dash101 out.
Jan. 16, 2001, 6:02 a.m. CST
Frankly, Im not sure that yet another remake of a Frankenstien film will be all so popular either. I mean come on, " Lara Craft is Tomb Raider"..? What is that crap! This I fear shall be no better. -dash101 out.
Jan. 16, 2001, 6:10 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
Well, Dash, that's easy enough to say without having read either project. I've read both. Which one of us is actually talking about something they've experienced, and which one of us is just voicing a knee-jerk reaction? Anything can be great if it's in the right hands. Anything can be crap if it's in the wrong hands. The whole point of the review is to say that Kalogridis is not what you'd expect. Open your mind a bit. Wait for the films. Maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Jan. 16, 2001, 6:21 a.m. CST
I loved the originals. Universal MADE the concept of a franchise. The Mummy was done right why do do they need to screw up Frankenstein! F should be done the way the Mummy was but with less comedy. The future, cops and investigation and a lame ass super hero thrown in. WHY CALL IT FRANKENSTEIN! Sounds like the lame 2099 series Marvel put out. When I saw the title I flipped cause I thought it was the CG thing coming back or something newer and cooler but I get some lame cyber punk 'reimagination' of a cool story as is. Just like Burtons Apes which I bet will suck ass wprse than Mars Attacks. IF YOU DON'T RESPECT IT LEAVE IT BE! B.O.F. an avenging angel MY ASS! How dreadful.
Jan. 16, 2001, 7:26 a.m. CST
Hollywood has done more to eviscerate strong female roles in most movies than a thousand of the worst Harry-hating fundamentalist preachers. From the degeneration of the naturalist character in The Lost World played by Julian Moore, to the creation of non-existent female characters in Starship Troopers. The female always ends up as some damsel in distress because that is what the Slime in Suits thinks that Mid-America wants to see. I have hopes that Tomb Raider will not turn out like that, but so far most of the advertising seems to be leaning to an action jiggle-fest ala BarbWire. But, I still hold out hope it is not.
Jan. 16, 2001, 8:09 a.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
Wasn't especially impressed with the "Tomb Raider" trailer, but hey, that doesn't mean the script didn't have some great stuff in it. A lot of it has to do with what Simon West got onscreen. I nearly walked out of "The General's Daughter" in the first hour, but the book was a top-notch page-turner. I'm very intrigued by the way Moriarty describes the plot of this new "BoF." LOVE it when a writer is able to take a familiar story and turn it into something new and fresh, something all too few writers seem capable of. Obviously Kalogirdis has lots of ideas. What remains to be seen is what (if anything) makes it to the screen. Agree with the take on Proyas as well--not the biggest fan of either "DC" or "The Crow"--both had good moments that failed to come together into a cohesive whole. It would be interesting to see what Proyas could do with a script that creates fascinating images yet moves with a purpose as well, something that "Sleepy Hollow," for all its terrific set design, DIDN'T do, IMHO.
Jan. 16, 2001, 8:19 a.m. CST
Poor Mary Shelley. 100 years of Frankenstein films and not one has actually made a decent effort of telling the book's story. Karloff's creature was made a childish oaf(liked the portrayal, but far cry from the book) and everyone sees it as the true classic. Lee's was a mute. Sarrazin's was more like Dorian Gray /Mr. Hyde and yet the film was called the True Story. Then came Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. De Niro's creature was turned into a brutal thug(only slightly more articulate than Karloff's). If they actually followed Shelley's design plan, the creature would be far more interesting and the films more memorable.
Jan. 16, 2001, 8:31 a.m. CST
The fine folks who brought you the steaming pile of shite known as THE GRINCH. 'Nuff said!
Jan. 16, 2001, 8:33 a.m. CST
by All Thumbs
To start off, I love Shelley's novel and I think one of the problems with many adaptations is that they focus on the "science circumventing God" theme rather than some of the more personal, more complex questions Shelley raises. I also think the Whale versions are beautiful works of art and I loathe Branagh's version, although it is a more "faithful" adaptation of the novel. DeNiro was excellent, though, and could have been a great Frankenstein's monster if there had been more focus on his alienation from his creator and the world and lost that horrible scene with Helena Bonham Carter going up in flames. I think Branagh's version suffered from some of the recklessness of ambition mapped out in the original novel. Anyways, I guess that's why I consider the Whale adaptations (and for some strange reason "Young Frankenstein") more faithful than some of the so-called faithfuls; they explore some of the other themes and are more of an homage to Shelley's work than a straight repetition. I think this new movie, if done right, could be a great "homage" rather than a "faithful" adaptation. It sounds like a wonderful script with some great potential, but I gotta tell ya...the purists (those of the Whale movies and the Shelley novel) are gonna throw a hissy fit. And, Moriarty, who would you want to see as Lily?
Jan. 16, 2001, 8:38 a.m. CST
Jan. 16, 2001, 9:08 a.m. CST
Now that was a good sequel! Flawed in some parts, but still good. This story is not "Bride Of Frankenstein". A good story, but as the poster above suggested, change the title. Knowing Jim Jacks though, "Mr. Fullofhimself" no, that's not it, "Mr. Dickhead" is right, who used to be head of development at Universal(Gee, how'd he get that sweetheart distribution deal with them?) they'll monoplize on the the title alone. Though Sean Daniels has always been a good guy to work with.
Jan. 16, 2001, 9:20 a.m. CST
by Klam Bake
Question, Where is Frankenstein's first creation? At the very least a cameo is warranted. And please don't say the detective gets turned into a monster. Ugh! I also could see the plot coming a mile away. The division of who's the bad guy is to concrete. The novel was great for that because you didn't realize till the end that the evil guy was the main character. Ditch the romance with the detective. Let the Bride have no one to turn to. Let her stand on her own and come through. My 2 cents.
Jan. 16, 2001, 9:40 a.m. CST
Hey Moiarty, what's with the shot at Sommers? I thought you loved the Mummy?
Jan. 16, 2001, 11:42 a.m. CST
by Emerald Eyes
For those who forgot to mention it (that includes you, Moriarty), Laeta Kagridis was also up for arbitration (along with Joss Whedon and Chris McQuarrie) in the writing credits for "X-Men". As we all know, neither her or the others got credit as it was handed to the luckiest screenwriter in Hollywood, David Hayter - who was basically a script supervisor/secretary/hanger-on of Bryan Singer's. By several accounts, Hayter compiled and shuffled all of the various X-drafts into one cohesive script, and got a credit. Anyway, it could be for the best. I have Laeta Kagridis' draft of "X-Men", and it is less than inpressive. It smacks of the outrageous "comic booky" flavor that Bryan Singer wanted to avoid. Kagridis' draft tries to be all things to all people with an over-emphasis on Wolverine's origin, a convoluted plot involving Magneto, and overdeveloped bits with Gambit and Beast. It was a mess as a screenplay but might've made a good animated adventure. This "Bride Of Frankenstein" sounds interesting and fresh and I hope it gets made. For all of you so-called "purists" -- get a life.
Jan. 16, 2001, 11:44 a.m. CST
This article reminded me of an anime that had similar themes. It was about a robot girl who lived in a world that had an above world for the elite, and a lower world for the "refuse" of society. That anime also had organ removal (spinal removal if I remember correctly) as one of its themes.
Jan. 16, 2001, noon CST
Yup, that's what I thought, first off. They should ditch the Frankenstein thing and just make a live action Battle Angel movie. Of course, it would suck as an anime film and wouldn't quite make it as a "summer blockbuster", so it would tank at the box office and no more films would be made like this again for a good ten years. ...which might not be a bad thing...
Jan. 16, 2001, 12:01 p.m. CST
is making assumptions on peoples involvement in work hundreds of miles from you with no real information. Calling Hayter lucky or anything but good considering the finished product is downright foolish. Do you really know what he did or are you making up or passing on a stupid rumor? Hopefully this turd won't make it. I hope they rename it 'undead man hating avenging chick'. So from all the 'purists' who need to get a life I say the Whales film was one of the greatest in history an not just horror...if you don't get that then you just don't understand cinema...so go watch Wild Wild West. also I think the previous poster who said Karloff was lumbering was thinking of Glen Strange...Karloff was menacing and evil and maybe the greatest screen villain...lastly hopefully one day someone will do this right the way Xmen was done right. Done with care not just crapped out with all the PC attributes and trendy plot twists.
Jan. 16, 2001, 12:09 p.m. CST
those that carry intentional camp those that unintentionally carry camp and those that are serious. The reason Sommers didn't study "Raiders" was because he was making a campy movie and "Raiders" isn't that.Whereas whatever her name is, is writing "Tomb Raider" as a serious action/advernture flick. And it will probably turn out campy anyway.
Jan. 16, 2001, 12:36 p.m. CST
From the simple desciption that you gave i say what the hell. if the movie turns out to be a tenth as engauging as the scipt sounds then its already kicked as on nintey percent of the "action" films currently in theaters. And in using the ever repitous dark gritty class segregated, "we really weren't trying to copy bladerunner that much honest" future, perhaps it will succed where dark angel failed like a dyslexic third grader. As for revisiting the frankenstein mythos i give Kalogridis credit for having the required (all be it figurative) balls to wade through so many cluster fucked attempts (the bride, frankenstein unbound, and that kenneth branough shitfest). Further the notion to include proyas was astounding. With two huge cult films under his belt he seems the perfect person to helm, what will most likely turn into a cult supported classic. In short it sounds filled with the possibility to be a great film, and if it fails theres no way it could any worse than battlefield earth.
Jan. 16, 2001, 1:06 p.m. CST
by Junior D-Girl
I've seen this happen at first-hand. Would love to read this script. Moriarty your problem is your penis. If it's about a woman and was written by a woman why can't you in your infinite wisdom mention some women directors who might be appropriate for this project? I mean besides Kath Bigelow. Surely there must be a few women who could handle this script and bring it to the fullest incarnation it clearly so richly deserves. Let a woman take the reins on this and give her the freedom to make it her way.
Jan. 16, 2001, 3:49 p.m. CST
And it was called Battle Angel. And I think someone already made that observation and it was called TheKraken.
Jan. 16, 2001, 5:02 p.m. CST
by marla singer
... where exactly was I mentioned...?
Jan. 17, 2001, 1:26 a.m. CST
This writer's ideas for 'The Enclave' with it's crystal spires and magnificant towers overlooking the debris of the lower classes is a blatant rip off of Neil Stephenson's book, 'The Diamond Age'. Still, it's such an awesome novel, no wonder she's borrowed from it. Alex Proyas would be a great choice to direct but I can't imagine it turning out too good. It'll have to be dumbed down too much otherwise who will want to see it apart from a few of us geeks.
Jan. 17, 2001, 5:20 p.m. CST
by The Hillbrothers
Rich people living in towers above ground/ poor people living underground in a post-apocalyptic world...This is not a rip-off, those are now sci-fi genre conventions. This movie will be cool if it's made the way described. Sounds scary too. I know it has nothing to do with the original, but then the original was an invention, not based on a classic novel. It's the sequel to a pulp film version of a classic book, and this movie seems clos enough in theme to warrant use of the "Frankenstein" title. The original (Mary Shelley) book, by the way, has a great plot/ theme, but is way over-written and really terribly boring if you already know the story, and painful to read even if you don't. Anyone agree?
Jan. 19, 2001, 10:56 a.m. CST
Laeta Kalogridis is a brilliant writer with lots to offer everyone. If people would just quit being anal and open their eyes they would be able to see this. And by the way "Moriarty" Laeta is NOT single!
Jan. 19, 2001, 10:59 a.m. CST
AND BY THE WAY WE SHOULDN'T FORGET THAT LAETA KALOGRIDIS IS PAYED MORE THAN SOME OF THE MUCH OLDER, AND ACCORDING TO YOU MORE "POPULAR" WRITERS. MOST WRITERS DON'T GET PAYED GOOD MONEY FOR SHIT! :0) HAVE A GREAT DAY, MELINDA
June 17, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST