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A MAD MAX 4 TidBit
Hey folks, Harry here... We haven't heard very much about MAD MAX 4 in nearly a year now... last thing that really came out was the 'Heath Ledger as Feral Kid grown up' rumor, and before that... over a year ago, George Miller was telling us about his reasoning for making and being interested in making a fourth Max flick, which had... ahem.... nothing to do with the money involved.... ahem.... cough cough.... Now the following source on this provided a good deal of background that I'm not at liberty to disclose, but I believe his scoop to be valid.... However, if it is a valid scoop, then it is basically telling us that the long standing rumored plotline at Coming Attractions may very well be completely abandoned... if so we now are back at square one... We don't know anything about it, which is kinda fun... but at least we are told to expect the machismo and nastiness of MAD MAX 2 aka THE ROAD WARRIOR... Personally this is a project from George Miller I'm dying to see get moving...
"The movie is NOT set 300 years after Mad Max 3: Beyond Thunderdome and WILL
NOT star Max's son.
It will however be getting back to the machismo and sheer nastiness of Mad
Max 2."
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... or not hehe, so is that to say Gibson is back like Ford is back for Indy. Republican president... old flicks reviving... It is the 80's once again !!!
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Is this film ever going to get made? The Road Warrior is the best of the series and it bodes well that (hopefully) this film is going back to it's format. Just hope that Mr Gibson does it and can remember how to do an Australian accent.
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I'm very welcoming to seeing a forth Mad Max picture. I loved the plot premise that was to be the backbone of the new film but if Geogre Miller wants to take it back to Mad Max 2 territory, taking longer with the project, then that's fine by me. Mad Max 2 is clearly the superior one of all three Mad Max films. I loved the striped down, almost non existent narrative. The movie succeeded in having a 'drive'. The final act of the road chase still holds up in my books as the best chase in cinema.
Just watched it last week and it still got me pumped with it's awesome pacing and photography! George Miller get a move on, this needs to be seen. -
For two and a half films, "The Road Warrior" sure built up a mythology that is strong enough to excite people even today. That is the difference between a good action film and one that makes you remember the characters and a world that suggests even more stories to come. The last shot of Max standing by the roadside as the Feral boy is driven away is just classic. Seeing that shot, I'm thinking: "more! More! I want to know what happened to Max!" Well, then came that abortion "Beyond Thunderdome". I want to forget that the same way I want to forget "Conan the Destroyer".
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I'm sure it'll be just as great as Babe 2! Only kidding. MM2 is far and away the best of the 3. It'll be interesting to see how this looks with modern FX technology.
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Oooh yeah... remember that Tina Turner song?! Anyway, let's hope this dang thing gets a movin'! I want to see Mel Gibson vs. Russell Crowe in a 'no holds barred' smackdown! Or better yet... let Russell Crowe and Dennis Quaid settle it out in the Thunderdome!
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I'm sure someone must have pointed this out when the rumour of Ledger playing the Feral Kid first arose, but Feral Kid never saw the road warrior ever again. He says so at the end of the film... I loved The Road Warrior, it is the best of the three but I still think the other two were pretty terrific too. I'm just not sure on what kinda plot they can have with Gibson getting on in the years. Surely Max can't still be wondering the wastelands? Could he?
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Icon that he has become, I am a bit leary of seeing Max start up with the dreaded Hollywood quipping. " I know where there's a rig that'll haul that tanker. " and the quote in my subject line are two examples of something the Road Warrior films had that a soulcrushing ratio of genre films don't have - great dialouge.
I dig the thought of an older max still surviving, and relish the idea of another installment of what might be the most consistent trilogy in genre film.
Another thing which gives me pause is the fact that the last 2 films both hinged strongly on him risking his life due to conscience, and it seems most films never pass up a chance to savage my heartstrings with protracted shots of people's emotion laden faces accompanied by browbeating scores.
I suppose my bottom line is that I truly hope they go cerebral.
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Well if they can get back to the spirit of the first couple of movies, especially the bleak, violent, world on the edge in the first one, rather than the total post-apocalypse freakshow that the second one pretty much invented. Then Mad Max 4 will rock mightily, with big rocks.
If they do what they did in the third, and get caught up in thier own post-catastrophe mythology (in line with all the other gunk that copied the first two Max movies) then it'll just be bad. -
Ooh yeah. Is that twice as cool as being first, or twice as sad.
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Jan 15, 2001 4:36:15 AM CST
Why don't they just make Waterworld 2 and get it over with
by salem hanna
Hey, it was practically Mad Max on water. And if Battlefield Earth gets a sequel in the works, why not a new outing for Tina Majorino's pet fish? All you'd need to win the support of the average AICN reader is to hire Wachowskis to direct, Russel Crowe to play the Mariner, Penelope Cruz for Helen and every other flavor of the month to be involved, then you could bribe critics to love it and most would believe it because the expectations from the aforementioned people if they were to work together tomorrow would be overwhelming!
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No offense, but people who quote the 3rd atrosity should be lined up against the wall and shot.
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Money-grubbing whores. Wasn't THUNDERDOME enough of a pointless piece of shit for them? I know it made buttloads of cash, but it was trite, Hollywoodized sell-out garbage, and an embarrassment to the Max legacy. I hope, whatever storyline they come up with for a fourth installment, Mel Gibson gives everybody the finger and walks away. This is an absolute mistake.
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Jan 15, 2001 7:03:11 AM CST
By the way, Nils? The quote is "A fella... a QUICK fella... migh
by roguewriter
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Jan 15, 2001 8:33:00 AM CST
Two days ago, I saw a truck that would pull that tanker - ya wan
by ol' painless
Still one of my favourite Mel lines of all time, and truth be told, the man could not be touched in the first two MAD MAX films for his grim presence and charisma. The true Warrior of the Wasteland. Can't say I like what his career has ultimately evolved into, but the man topped the Hollywood A-list for about 13 years now, so who am I to tell him he's wrong?
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Sheesh, a federal holiday, and you geekboys go ALL to pot... =)
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Jan 15, 2001 9:32:53 AM CST
I am now the proud owner of an Austrailian Cattle Dog, similar t
by arcturus
I bring this up in order to demonstrate my passion for The Road Warrior, aka Mad Max 2. The rumors that Mad Max 4 will most closely resemble The Road Warrior have made me very, very happy. A warning though-the Austrailian Cattle dog like the one Max had and that I now have is a tough breed to have as a pet and has been very challenging for me so far. It's worth it if you're a dedicated owner though, as I hope I am.
Now, about The Road Warrior. I'd say it's the best of the Mad Max series. It edges out Mad Max 1 because it provides the viewer a sense of hope and redemption by the closing credits, as opposed to the naked ferocity and ultimate insanity that is brought to the fore by the End of Mad Max 1. Particularly, the Road Warrior had a cast of characters that were also the best in the series. Max's dog, in particular, is highly underrated and was a wonderful charcter in his own right and is one of the most shining examples of an animal's performance on the silver screen. Ditto, Max's outrageous car. The car had a personality all it's own. Who wouldn't want to drive a car such as it? It's one of the finest examples of an automotive masterpiece in Sci-Fi history. It sucked big time (emotionally)that both the car and the dog met violent ends at the climax of the movie, but their collective destruction ultimately helped make the film much more urgent and poignent, and thus a better film.
So what is in the forecast for a sequel? If they do it, let's call it Road Warrior Part 2, not Mad Max 4. Let's definitely bring back the Gyro Captain and the other surviving characters from Road Warrior. And, of couse, we must keep up the Mad Max tradition of having a monstrous collision of two vehicles travelling head-on towards each other (One of the coolest trademarks of any Sci-Fi series, by far). -
God,
For years now I've been following this story and the small little tidbits that have leaked out. You know what all of that means? That there won't be a sequel. When a movie is really in the works, believe me... things start popping up. Especially in Australia where the market isn't as big. It's easier to track and stay close to one production.
So it was this frustration... and the news of where Miller was taking the beloved saga that prompted a friend and I to begin typing our own sequel to Mad Max. It was tough to ignore the third film, and so we didn't. But the roots of where we were taking our script clearly led back to the 2nd film.
So Miller, if you're reading this, I won't give away our entire story, but I'll give you a few choice statements that you can steal from us: civil wars break out in Max's native land; farming no longer a way of life for Max; finds the last part he needs to rebuild an Interceptor; loses friend dear to him; becomes wanted man again... this time by the leader of one of the Armies; must flee Australia by way of a rumoured land bridge that the dry oceans have produced that leads straight to the States; only problem is, the gangs protect the bridge; movie becomes an all out road war to reach the U.S. border in time... in the end, Max faces a new world of desolation and threat... America.
See how easy that was? Just follow those steps and you've have a sequel which will fucking rock.
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Holy Christ,Acturus!You are one fucking funny son of a bitch.There is a possibility that you've seen Mad Max 2 one too many times.(By the way fuck those yanks,it is NOT called the road warrior)
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome was cool apart frtom those fucking kids."Keptin warka."Max ultimately was true to character,i.e.was left alone at the end and kicked some mohawk arse.But Max 4?Hmmm.God,please don't let him fall in love,lose bird,seek revenge.Seems like only fucking way for story to go.Certainly can't have him walking off into distance again at end.Mel has lost a lot of hair now and HAIR was a particular symbol in the films.He ain't as handsome either,needs that scar over his eyebrow and his odd eye colours back.
"KUUUUUURRRAffttiii leeeetllle marrrrrnn!"GYro Captain is sauron.Euuughhh. -
Yo INTERLOPER,when you reach your 11th birthday lket us all know.Christ.What the fuck has America got to do with Max films.Fucking hell.Nothing you say will "rock" and Mel will piss himself at your...ahem..'idea's'.America.Christ,son good luck with George dubya.You deserve him,mate.Not everything in this life revolve around the fucking states.Grrr."...Gazzooleeenn!Eh!Eh!brrrr!Uh!"
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Jan 15, 2001 10:08:28 AM CST
IF MEL'S GONNA BE AS YUMMY AS HE IS IN WHAT WOMEN WANT...THEN OK
by keisereela
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Jan 15, 2001 10:25:14 AM CST
THE COOL THING ABOUT MEL GIBSON..IS THAT HE "IS" MEL GIBSON
by keisereela
- that's Chris Rock's line....
anyway, Mel's got everything already, enough to make everyone jealous of his accomplishments, great career, stable family .... it's not fair, isn't it?...so your behavior The True Priapic is typical...not to mention that women are lining up waving their panties over WWWant. so why in the hell would Mel do Mad Max 4? 1. he would produce it and make even more money... 2. it will bring Mad Max trilogy into the mainstream (remember, Mad Max was not really a boxoffice bonanza when they were released, but only developed a cult following. Well, come to think of it, Mel's never been better and more popular now than he is before, not to mention, as macho as he is now... I love the guy!...So, there's only one reason this movie will EVER get made...that is...IF MEL SAYS YES. Do you think the ultra-patriotic The Patriot would have been made if Mel didn't want to wave a flag again? Do you think LW4 would have been made, if Mel won't be payed 25Mil (plus royalties of course) to goof around? Hollywood's Mel's toy, and the fact that his last three movies made 100 million each at the boxoffice (two if you think voice-over delivery isn't a talent - Chicken Run), means America's enjoying it...People's Choice Awards...ahem, aheam.. :)
yeah, yeah, I'm a Mel Gibson fan. And I have reason to be....so shake it up, Mel's gonna hang out a little more while...The Man Who Has Everything Already...isn't life tough?! hehe.. :) c'ya!
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Jan 15, 2001 10:25:23 AM CST
THE COOL THING ABOUT MEL GIBSON..IS THAT HE "IS" MEL GIBSON
by keisereela
- that's Chris Rock's line....
anyway, Mel's got everything already, enough to make everyone jealous of his accomplishments, great career, stable family .... it's not fair, isn't it?...so your behavior The True Priapic is typical...not to mention that women are lining up waving their panties over WWWant. so why in the hell would Mel do Mad Max 4? 1. he would produce it and make even more money... 2. it will bring Mad Max trilogy into the mainstream (remember, Mad Max was not really a boxoffice bonanza when they were released, but only developed a cult following. Well, come to think of it, Mel's never been better and more popular now than he is before, not to mention, as macho as he is now... I love the guy!...So, there's only one reason this movie will EVER get made...that is...IF MEL SAYS YES. Do you think the ultra-patriotic The Patriot would have been made if Mel didn't want to wave a flag again? Do you think LW4 would have been made, if Mel won't be payed 25Mil (plus royalties of course) to goof around? Hollywood's Mel's toy, and the fact that his last three movies made 100 million each at the boxoffice (two if you think voice-over delivery isn't a talent - Chicken Run), means America's enjoying it...People's Choice Awards...ahem, aheam.. :)
yeah, yeah, I'm a Mel Gibson fan. And I have reason to be....so shake it up, Mel's gonna hang out a little more while...The Man Who Has Everything Already...isn't life tough?! hehe.. :) c'ya!
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Jan 15, 2001 10:33:12 AM CST
WELCOME!!!! TO ANOTHER EDITION OF THUNDERDOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by wergh4ree
That is like my lifetime favorite movie line!
But Psyclops got it in one! I want Dennis Quaid and Russell Crowe get in thunderdome and rip off each other's balls!!!! TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES...TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES... -
Jan 15, 2001 10:36:33 AM CST
The Mad Max character is a very popular, bigger than life fim ch
by jamie sonil
Mad Max is the mother of all post-apocalyptic films!
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Why doesn't he pick quieter, more intense roles instead of doing the teenage hearthrob bit? 10 Things I Hate About You, The Patriot, A Knight's Tale...
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You over looked one oversight you blithering idiot, Mel Gibson was born in the U.S his family moved to australia. STOP acting like a prick.
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Jan 15, 2001 11:44:47 AM CST
Actually, keisereela, the MAX films WERE hug box-office successe
by roguewriter
MAD MAX was, for a number of years, the most successful indie ever produced in Australia, and THE ROAD WARRIOR took home whopping numbers there and here in America as well. (MAD MAX would have done better here, IMO, if that hadn't underestimated we Yanks with a decent worldview and added that dreadful Americanized voice dubbing!) THUNDERDOME also did fairly well here in the States (don't know about Australia) though it didn't make quite the money of ROAD WARRIOR simply because it wasn't all that freakin good. =) (Anyone remember Mel Gibson telling PEOPLE magazine he didn't want to be there shooting that "piece of shit"? Still got that story somewhere...) A fourth MAX film won't make much money because a) it's been too long since the series' heyday and b) dumbass Hollywood will insist on forcing Miller to replace Mel with someone like Nic Cage, the current poster boy for the Continuing Retardation of American Cinema. And they'll probably try to replace Miller with some Nike commercial director. The idea is a bad one -- leave Max walking out there in the wastes, where he belongs. Let this grand series alone!
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OK sure... it's POSSIBLE that another Mad Max movie could be made, and it's POSSIBLE that it could be good. But really, what are the chances? C'mon, when's the last time a series that ended with a crappy movie was brought back to life? Of course Thunderdome got shitty. After you get to the third movie the crappiness is going to start to set in... think of the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. Why can't Hollywood make anything original? In fact why can't ANYONE make anything original anymore? Look at music and television and the movies. We are the aftertaste of the 60's-80's!
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Now all we need is Destiny's Child to cover a remake of "We don't need another hero" and we'll be on our way. -
Oh,boy!!Er,excuse me I have said sweet fuck all about where Mel was fucking born and I don't care.Mad Max and the films are based about and in Oz.Quite how you think America has some sort of ownership aver these films is fucking typical.At what fucking point have I upset anyone apart from fucking idiots who seem to think "oooh,lets bring Max to America because then that means we OWN YET ANOPTHER FUCKING FRANCHISE.."You fucking tosser.Its like having LOTRE with yank voices.Other nationalities have accents and VOICES too.Grow up and talk properly.If Max is an Oz let him be an Oz.Mel may have been born in
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Soon, there will be another wave of hot actors and the Hollywood fascination with Oz will end. It seems rather trendy to me. Not to discredit Aussie actors -- Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe (technically a kiwi, I guess) have both brought excitement back to the leading man.
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Jan 15, 2001 2:45:22 PM CST
Okay, You Scooped Me. But Here's The Info I Was Saving...
by buzz maverik
Miller, having completely failed to live up to the promise he showed with MAD MAX and THE ROAD WARRIOR, is returning to his roots with a semi-sequel called ROAD WARRIOR: AMERICANO STYLE. Ben Afflek is in talks to play CHP officer Rex "Rad Rex" Murillo who battles road gangs during the downfall of society. This time, the road carnage is not a result of nuclear war or a fuel shortage, but of a novelty item: a neon middle finger, mounted on the back of vehicles, that lights up when the driver flicks a switch. This leads to a hood mounted grappling hook gun to tear down the middle fingers. Soon, everything on every continent is crumbling.
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The original Mad Max can't be appreciated until you've seen the original Australian language version.
That Goddamned dubbed version is a bloody insult to the film, removing much of the charm and humour that is disctinctly Austrialian.
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Now I have to dig out my copies of the films and triple check all the quotes. Great. I get hopped all over for having a couple of words wrong in sentences, and the "two shal enter one may leave" holmes passes under the anal radar.
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I'm sure having the original sound will just make me change my whole opinion of the movie. It's just sound. Please.
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i just hope it has the same atmosphere and tone The Road Warrior did, it was kinda primal like. and no stupid popular music soundtrack, bring back Brain May. i want more of the same, not something a bored director will change because he doesnt want to repeat himself.
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Hey everyone. Just letting all you Max/ Miller fans out there that there is a new website in honour of them. The site is called "The First Ever Doctor George Miller Website", and is run by yours truly. I created the site after realising that there are no fansites out there dedicated to the greatest director ever. You can get to the site by following...
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your idea is lame and your pitch sucked. on a more encouraging note, mad max was re-released last year theatrically (sp?) with the original soundtrack intact, so i think it's safe to assume that a dvd without the offensive dubbing can't be far behind.
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altho, i'd have to rate the first one as my favorite. his wife is still alive when he leaves. its a disturbing and powerful film. i was actually looking for it in the dvds but they didn't have it (i can agree to the fullest that those dubbings hinder the film. it kinda pisses me off. everyone knows foreign films that are dubbed are painful to watch. mad max should have subtitles dammit! hahaha just kidding before someone calls me a babyfucking murderer or something). had mad max 2 though. great as well, number 2 on my list, convenient enough. but i really can't rate 3. its ruined for me the second tina turner shows up. but at least it gave home to midgets and the mentally retarded, and to good effect, especially with the unmasking of the one guy (sorry, fail to remember, master blaster/bater or something). wow, this is a strangely repulsive post. maybe the Marquis de Sade is corrupting my brain. anyway, i would just like to now say a couple of things about a 4th mad max. the one person's idea for a sequel sucked. badly. i don't feel bad because that's the risk you run. as one of the ever hated people who had the misfortune of being born in america, i even took offense to taking an australian icon and having him find his salvation in the USA - but wait, its bad too! wow, how "twisty". i'm impressed. anyway...so brutal tonight...if they do make it, they need to add the element that makes every hero a legend. he needs to die. i agree with whoever said it before, we don't need to have him standing alone in a wasteland again. that image is perfected by mad max 2 and its still there in our heads. mad max needs to die a hero's death. well, at least my stupid brain thinks so. and i leave you with the clash...."I'm so booored with the U-S-A..."
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Jan 16, 2001 4:10:10 AM CST
Heath has already done his transformation, with successful resul
by wergh4ree
besides 10 things I had about you, he's done serious films that's not exactly aimed at teenyboppers. Imagine, say Freddie Prinze Jr. playing a similar role as Mad Max. yikes!!! I think I'll have nightmares tonight! For christ sake, Prinze Jr.'s older than Heath and he's still playing teenage characters!
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But you're right -- they need to get back to the rich, apocalyptic scorework and stay away from Tina Turner songs. The score to MM3 wasn't so bad... but the songs didn't belong. That opening tune was fairly cool as it appeared over the intro credits without lyrics -- gotta admit that gave me a serious rush in the theater. Which had cold water dashed all over it the moment the Gyro Captain appeared as a wholly new character -- what's up with casting THE SAME ACTOR as YET ANOTHER FLYING ANTAGONIST?? Man, that movie really shamed its predecessors... A damned shame.
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Jan 16, 2001 8:19:27 AM CST
The Road Warrior was an incredible film, it doesn't *need* a seq
by vault dweller
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I thought it rocked. Sure it was a departure from the non-stop kick-ass fest that was Road Warrior II, but it had some spectacular moments.
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I've been waiting for this movie since i was about 8, back in 1987, and i'm VERY relieved that it's not about mad max's son or feral boy grown-up..... MAD MAX 4 should be about MAD MAX, no one else!!! Mel Gibson has proved that even in old age he can still rip shit up, i don't see why Mr. Miller wouldn't cast THE ORIGINAL BAD-ASS, (and he IS the original bad-ass) to reprise the role......dammit
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Brian May isn't dead. You are talking about the Brian May from Queen, right? That would be Mr. Fred Mercury that died, the singer. Not the guitarist, Mr. Brian May. True, both last names begin with M and end with Y, but they are different people. (Although they may have been joined from time to time...)
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