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TRON 2.0, it is about this....

Published at:  Jan 02, 2001 11:48:36 PM CST

Hey folks, Harry here.... Seems like some solid information on the status of TRON 2.0 has popped up. The Hollywood Reporter has reported that:



"The film's writer-director, Steven Lisberger, is working on a second draft of a script with writer Richard Jefferies and plans to once again direct. The plot is said to follow an ambitious hacker who transports himself into cyberspace to pull off the ultimate hack."

This is the first time that I've seen any hint of a plotline connected to this film, though it should be noted that Coming Attractions has been the online leader in breaking TRON 2.0 news (hell... even coming up with the title as an April Fool's Joke), but it seems Disney is beginning to get more PUBLIC with TRON 2.0. An ambitious hacker though is... well, I don't really know how I feel about that. I guess, you could say that the first film was all about hacking into a system... in what could be called the 'ultimate hack', but... well, I hope ol Lisberger has the same visionary imagination that made the first film such a visual delight. There has never been a film to even begin to look or feel like the original TRON. I hope... whatever they do stays just as ahead of its time.











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  • Jan 02, 2001 11:56:31 PM CST

    Is it necessary

    by toranaga

    At the time of the first one, computers seemed to be a more new, fresh thing. And the effects were amazing...at the time. Now they look a little silly. How the new one can seem fresh or interesting is beyond me. But I really do hope they pull it off. I liked the first one, although it gets more boring every time I see it. And they shoudnt even bother if there is no Jeff Bridges as Flynn. Then its pointless.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:00:22 AM CST

    TRON, those were the days...

    by mosdef

    Summer '82, E.T., The Thing, Tron, Poltergeist, Conan the Barbarian, Road Warrior...the best summer ever?

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:31:47 AM CST

    I Smashed A Glass Case & Stole A TRON Poster From A Theater In '

    by buzz maverik

    They were boring, kind of hard to play, but not hard in a fun way where you wanted to keep putting in your quarters to get better. They were hard in fuck-it-I'm going-outside-to-smoke-a-bowl-then-I'll-come-back-in-and-play-Tempest-or-Zaxxon sort of way. Ah, to be young and stoned again.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:44:37 AM CST

    For Buzz

    by kagero

    Nonsense my good man. I must beat on my chest and insist yet again that Discs of Tron remains one of my favorite video games of all time. There is a lone machine at our local ghetto theatre that I still play from time to time. However, I must note that I was straight-edge as a young adult, and really didn't start smoking pot until I was nearly 40. I also quit my dead-end corporate job to work at Der Weinerschnitzel.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:54:40 AM CST

    This could be unbearably cool

    by kuryakn

    TRON is one of those quintessental movies of any true fanboys DVD colletion. I remember watching this movie ever Sunday on the Afternoon Movie...it's pure genius. Unlike the poster above, this movie never gets old for me. I really hope they get Bruce Boxleitner and Jeff Bridges in on this one. It just wouldn't be Tron without, well, TRON! It'd be really cool if they could somehow bring Dan Shor as RAM back. I mean, Jeff Bridges died at the beginning of the first one as the program CLU. Why shouldn't RAM come back? If done correctly, this movie could totally rule the Earth. I swear though if Disney mucks this up I am going to put each and everyone of the their movie producers through tables.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:55:11 AM CST

    Der Weinterschnitzel Has That Amazing Chili Sauce.

    by buzz maverik

    Kagero, you should be proud. I especially hated that part of the Tron game where that can of rainbow colored crap descends on you and you smash it with your discs and it made those dull PLINK sounds. I liked Defender but my girlfriend at the time always gave me shit because I kept blasting those little guys I was supposed to pick up to keep them from turning into mutants. She liked Frogger, if you can believe that, always beat my ass at it. I told her I was only good at man's games like Centipede ( and none of the Millipede shit). Ah, to be young and full of shit again.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 1:17:31 AM CST

    Hollywood got my letters.

    by mr whitefolks

    This doesn't sound like a great concept, what with the crazy hacker stuff, but fuck, IT'S TRON! TRON RULES! I'm just god damned amazed there's even people looking into making another Tron. Nobody liked Tron. NOBODY. Except me! Maybe now this will start the Tron revolution I've been trying to start since 1982! And I was born in 1981! That should tell you how much I love me some Tron!!! Woo woo!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 1:58:14 AM CST

    Tron SE DvD Release Date?

    by redfive

    Does anyone know when the tron special-edition dvd is suppose to be released?,all i know is sometime in 2001.Early,middle,late 2001.All i know is im not forking over $30 for the standard edition when the special one is coming.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 2:18:48 AM CST

    tron? oh man. really?

    by jeff bailey

    You know I dont't know why I am posting for this one? I think there is an interest in Tron sequel. So many people I know love that movie. And honestly, I had never seen it until two years ago when it played at the Drafthouse in Austin. My Tron fanatic friend dragged me and I have to say I think the special effects really held up. And that light cycle chase was amazing. Seriously. Much better then crappy all purpose CGI we get shoveled now. Is it a great movie? mmmmmmNO. But it was fun, even if some of it was dated and hokey. And some the ideas were cool. So, we'll see what they got. Even though I hate sequels that come like so many damn years later. Except for episode one. Oh and the Color of Money, and ah Godfather 3...oh you KNOW what I mean. As for the game debate. I thought it was fun AND hard. But what the hell else you gonna when you are 8?

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  • ... except when you were a kid, you were convinced that it really WAS a discus...... If you want to talk about movie games that are so hard and boring that they're not worth more than five minutes and two quarters, then you should consider the Krull arcade game. You never even got to use your glave, since it was impossible to get past the falling rocks in level 1...... If they're going to make a new TRON movie, there's one thing (or two of 'em) that will get my butt in the seat: LIGHT CYCLES. Glowing Discus action would be nice, too.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 2:48:03 AM CST

    Tron and the first Star Trek movie (with V-ger)

    by 855k scoville

    were two movies that the critics hated and called boring but that I loved when they came out. I haven't seen them since. I hope they don't turn out to suck, when eventually I see them again. In short, I hope I don't have another "Return of the Jedi" experience, which was when I saw "Return of the Jedi" as an adult many years after seeing it as a young person and I realized for the first time that, yup, those movie snobs were right, "Return of the Jedi" sucks.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:23:34 AM CST

    Re: Scoville's Above Post

    by kuryakn

    Well Scoville, I couldn't agree with you more on the first part of your post. I love Tron, and I love the first Star Trek movie. Their is a creepiness that runs through the entire movie that no other Star Trek movie or show ever had. The music was great and the story was entertaining. That's why I am so looking forward to the Special Edition DVD. Finally this movie is going to be finished and everyone will see it for the classic that it is. As for Tron...I bought the regular version of it, thinking Disney would be lame and not put out a Special Edition DVD. NOW I FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE!!?!?! DAMN IT! I had to buy Professional twice, now I'm gonna have to buy Tron twice. SHIT! AND I JUST KNOW THEY ARE PROBABLY DOING A SE OF FIFTH ELEMENT TOO! I'm gonna start killing people...Anyhoo...the only thing I didn't agree with you on was your comment about 'Jedi' I love it as much as the others, and depending on what I feel like at the time I can honestly consider each chapter my favorite. Ewoks rule.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:37:55 AM CST

    Put it back in the box. Please...

    by jack hit

    This makes me vomit. I loved Tron, and still have a great fondness for it now. It was ground-breaking at the time for the sheer imagination that went into creating the cyber-world and for the cool look of the thing. There were loads of ingenius little ideas swimming around to make the electric-world cohesive and believable AT THE TIME. The point is our collective imagination has changed irrocably since those heady days where the computer-mouse was just a glint in the cyber-milkman's eye (I don't know what the hell am I gibbering about either). There are basically two ways this sequel can go... 1 It will be totally updated graphically and piss all fans of the original off (unless the script, acting etc is absolutely fantastic - yeah right) 2 They will try to retain the look and feel of the original and lose millions at the box office because it doesn't 'look very good' to the kids of today in comparison to the smoothly rendered CGI-fests that they are used to. Face it, the appeal of this kind of film comes as much from our memories of watching it as a child than from any actual inate worth. The classic example would the the furore that came with Star Wars Episode 1. Think of all the gaffes that we were so ready to pick up on and harangue Lucas about in The Phantom Menace. Part of the enjoyment I get when I watch the original trilogy is spotting the little mistakes (stormtrooper bashing his head, Luke bouncing back up, bronx Ewok et al) - they are cherished cock-ups that as a child we missed, or ignored in favour of just enjoying the overall experience of the films. It was the same when watching the blocky images and dodgy science of Tron. Fantastic then... but you have to be nostalgiacally forgiving to enjoy it as an adult now. That's all folks.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:43:08 AM CST

    Buckin TRON=Torgo+Servo=Huh?......Im HUGE

    by buck dat

    Buckin TRON rules. Yeah the ATARI games sucked. but TRON and Disks of TRON were pretty damn cool. And Buck Bruce and Jeff Bridges. They suck butt. Like most of your mothers suck my Allen Johnson. Buck Babylon 5 too. Torgo the legendary journeys is a real show. Tom Servo out acts and sucks any of yall's moms. Thats what I thought. And buck Vader Haters. YIPPEEEE!!!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:45:53 AM CST

    Oh Yeah

    by buck dat

    And Al Whore's favorite show was Torgo the Legendary Journeys.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:49:39 AM CST

    Uh....Riiiiiiight. Buck is scaring me

    by kuryakn

    I don't know about the rest of you, but Buck's rant has made me feel it is absolutedly necessary to run out and buy a gun, in order to protect myself and my home. What are you on man, and what hospital did you break out of. Maybe I should get a Tron Disc instead. Then I could just de-rez the body. hehehe. Quite a few people seem to be quite displeased about the idea of Tron 2. Like our imaginations have changed so much. I think it could be great. Maybe not as groundbreaking as the frist, but I think the story of Tron needs to be revisted. What happened to Flynn, the MCP, and Dillinger? With any luck, this movie is going to rule.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 5:39:19 AM CST

    TRON: (Homer Voice) "is this the greatest day of my life"? (reme

    by roger u. roundly

    JEFF BRIDGES MUST HAVE A ROLE IN THIS MOVIE!!! Also, they should make the protagonist a video game designer like ol' Jeff, and have him come up against his modern computer game baddies, like maybe QUAKE type baddies, or HALF LIFE baddies or some Horror game genre type baddies, or ...Ah, hell, you all know what I mean: Modern gaming baddies type icons, something in that vein. That's what made it cool in the first place, the fact that Jeffy boy was a VIDEO GAME DESIGNER!!!. The whole cyber-hacky thing has been revisited too often during the 90's. If they don't keep the VIDEO GAME element, then I might as well make my way over to Jeff (ugh) Fahey's house right now and tell him to keep a window open in his diary for when Di$ney calls...

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  • Jan 03, 2001 6:37:37 AM CST

    Same verse, second as the first!

    by ecaz, renderjedi

    The plot to Tron 2.0 sounds more like an embellishment of the caper Harry pulled of to get those bogus Oscar winners

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  • Jan 03, 2001 6:57:24 AM CST

    Wendy Carlos doing the music?

    by stitch

    I still have the vinyl record of the Tron soundtrack when I bought it in 1982! Love it and the film too. Saw it many times that summer. I doubt that they'll keep the skin tight costumes in Tron 2.0. Today, everything is loose fitted... unfortunately.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 7:13:01 AM CST

    TRON cast reunion. . .

    by renonevada2000

    As long as we're bringing back TRON cast members, howzabout Boxlightner's Bab 5 costar Peter (Londo) Jurisck. As a sidenote- Peter's parents live in the town right next to the town where TRON's writer/director used to live out here in Pennsylvania. (Which is right down the road from me! I've met Peter's dad a few times in a local mall. Cool guy.)

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  • Jan 03, 2001 7:35:14 AM CST

    I worked on this

    by ratpack

    Let no one forget that this movie was really created by the storyboard department headed by Bill Kroyer and Jerry Reese. Also Andy Gaskel and the French Artist "Mobeus" along with Peter Loyd had a huge effect on the look of the film. Interesting that at the same time at Disney, Tim Burton was working on his first Projects and John Lasseter was developing "the Emperor and the Nightingale" a feature idea for Mickey that never happened. All before Eisner and Wells. For those who remember......Thanks go out to Tom Wilhite, the guy who made it all happen.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 8:46:00 AM CST

    O.K. Tron is coming back...

    by klam bake

    What about the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai?! The World Crime League awaits Buckaroo's return to the silver screen.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 8:46:33 AM CST

    ENCOM = Microsoft ?

    by tron

    It's good to hear of a possible sequel but if Disney decides to use original style graphics, you can kiss this movie straight to video. It would be vital in the plot to have Jeff Bridges back in a sequel, but I don't think the character of Alan needs to come back. It would be neet to see a program of Flynn to appear late in the film as an aging Flynn program that is in the strange gear that Dumont was in.(as if A Flynn made program took his place)
    As somebody else earlier mentioned in postings about unleashing characters from videogames....It could open an entire world of video game satire......The old program section would have an ailing Pac-Man, Frogger with no hind legs,a cameo appearance of Nolan Bushnell in a program suit, Mario battling it out with Sonic...this could be the modern day version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Here is a funny thought.....The hacker while inside the internet, desides to infiltrate Microsoft. He arrives to Microsoft by a solar sailerand looks up into the cyber sky above and sees a field of Microsoft screen saver flags flying above himself. Now I would pay to see that!!!!! It would be fun to see a Bill Gates cameo as the new MCP.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 8:50:10 AM CST

    oh yeah one more thing......

    by tron

    Knowing Disney they will probably have Pixar do the animation and have cameo appearances of other Pixar created charaters since this gives major opportunity for it.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 9:13:54 AM CST

    Disney off to destroy another title....

    by evidence

    Oh well....I see Disney is off to
    destroy yet another one of their Golden Age titles.
    I wonder what cute comic characters will befriend our protagonist? Maybe our fuzzy little friend Giga Byte voiced by oh...Martin Short.
    Fuck Disney!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 9:43:00 AM CST

    THANK YOU HARRY!!! I been begging for this news!

    by horseflesh

    FINALLY!! BLESS YOU HARRY!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 9:45:53 AM CST

    TABB

    by ironotakumaestro

    Tron 2.0 has potential...I just hope they don't Disney it up too much. I can see a good script now...
    Bill Gates aquires the now bankrupt ENCOM, and while going through records, discovers a mysterious backup tape with three letters on it, MCP. He restores it, and chaos ensues, this time, the MCP wants revenge. That would be cool. As for Buckaroo Banzai, look for a TV series in the coming future, Buckaroo Banzai, Ancient Secrets and Mysteries. Fox has the rights to the series and it's to be a mid season replacement in the next year or two from what I hear.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 10:21:52 AM CST

    Anybody Remember That Stupid Don Bluth Video Game With The Knigh

    by buzz maverik

    I hated that fucker! I could never make the Knight, Sir Sucksalot or whatever, do what I wanted. My friend Eriglione got banned from Big Al's Arcade because he ate a jumbo buttered popcorn and a free refill and Movies 4, then drank a shitload of tall malt liquor then went into the arcade and threw up on that game. We all thought he should have been given his own Burger Time machine for that. The token dude didn't think it was too funny because he had to clean it up. Also, anybody remember that game where you were like in a room or maze with robots and you had to kill them but they'd go ARC LIGHT ROBOT or something and you couldn't kill them? I was playing one outside the bar of a hotel where they were having a Maverik family reunion (cousin Mosh got paroled, I think) and I saw this great looking woman go into the bar and one of my cousins said she was an expensive hooker. So I went around trying to get all the Maverik cousins to donate to the cause but they wouldn't, the fucks. After I ran out of quarters, I got cousin Kenny to go over to the liquor store and pick me up some Colt 45s and I sat out by the pool, drinking 'em down, smoking joints laced with something they use to tranquilize mental patients and writing a story about good looking hookers who operate by quarters, or tokens, which the token pimp dude sells you. Fuckin' family. I told 'em if it would have been a John Irving novel, everybody would have chipped in for cousin Buzz to lose his lightcycle with that hooker. Some of 'em said, "Who's John Irving?" Others said,"What's a novel." I told 'em it was like a book only better. They said it'd have to be.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 10:30:19 AM CST

    About damn time...

    by dehayd

    I actually wrote a treatment titled Tron 2.0 back in '93, just because I thought the time was right. I tried to get ahold of Lisberger, no dice. Sent it to Kushner-Locke, nothing. I actually got one of Eisner's people on the phone, and she commented that "Computer graphics are expensive." I informed her that the graphics in the original movie could be outdone with 3D Studio on a desktop PC. She then informed me that "Disney doesn't hire people to develop their ideas, we hire people to develop Our ideas." I told her I wasn't applying for a job, I was trying to pitch a screenplay. Not interested. Well, the title is a natural, so I'm not going to make a stink about that. But if they go with another lame hacker/terrorist plot instead of something original I'll be pissed. (Of course, I won't be very happy if they rip off my idea, but I doubt they even remember.) Anyway, this could be huge if they do it right. Eye Candy!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 10:50:16 AM CST

    Cast?

    by thereisnospoon

    My guess is that we are going to see a whole new standard for ground breaking visuals and it won't cost anywhere near as much as luring Jeff Bridges back. Bruce Boxleitner, David Warner and that chick that looked like a cross between Michelle Pfeiffer and Debbie Harry - It won't be Tron without them. I'd like to see David Warner bust out of prison and let loose some super virus into cyberspace that threatens to take down everything - the economy, air traffic, defense - and Flynn has to zap himself into the computer again to stop it, maybe with the help of some young hotshots. Let's see if we can cast gearheads a little better than Ryan Phillippe Tim Robbins thing coming out. I thought Seth Green and company in "Enemy of the State" were perfect in that they were realistically geeky and pasty faced enough to be believable gearheads without lacking the necessary hipness and sex appeal to cater to the clearasil set.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 10:57:51 AM CST

    The ultimate hack...

    by charlespalantine

    Will be the person who gets writing credit for this dumb ass idea.

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  • Namely: "Blade Runner" and "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." Oh yeah, and the re-release of "Star Wars" with the very first "REVENGE of the Jedi" teaser. Not to mention Mr. T in "Rocky III." Yes, those WERE the days. It will never get that good again. As for "Tron 2.O," I think it's a great idea, even if the film itself sucks. It might finally get the Disney home video marketing people off their clueless asses and really get that "Tron" Special Edition DVD out on the shelves. "Synergy" and "tie-ins" and all that. By the way, what's Cindy Morgan looking like these days? Can she still slip into a sexy white skintight cybersuit? God, I hope so...

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  • Jan 03, 2001 11:22:24 AM CST

    The topic of "Tron" makes me think about those blatant ABC TV ri

    by clubberlang

    Like "Automan"("Tron"), "Tales Of The Gold Monkey"("Raiders of the Lost Ark"), "Wishman"("E.T."), and "the Insiders"("Miami Vice").

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  • Jan 03, 2001 11:31:09 AM CST

    More TRON Memories.

    by buzz maverik

    Senior year. We're at this party and I'm making out with this girl who says she's an art major at a community college. We take a break to replenish our saliva and over at the keg we're approached by my dudes Eriglione, Rog and Speedfreak Steve. We're part of a cool clique known around school as Those Guys Who Couldn't Get Laid In A Tiajuana Whore House. I don't chase 'em away because I want them to see that I'm finally gonna get some. Speedfreak wasn't with us when we stole the TRON poster and since Ma Maverik won't let him back in Casa De Maverik, he hasn't seen the poster on my wall, so he wants to hear the story from me. The girl is impressed, says that as an art major she loves TRON and if she'd known we were going to see it, she'd have scored some acid. Rog speaks up and says that if she can still get the acid, we can catch the midnight show. I'm disappointed because it looks like I'm not going to Lose the Big V that night, but hey, we're going see TRON on acid so it ain't all bad, right. She says no problem and she heads off. A few minutes later, this guy named Don comes by and tells us that the girl I was making out with left with the guy who was claiming to be Stevie Nicks' nephew. I get pissed off and start in about how there's no loyalty and doesn't she think I'd rather make it with Stevie Nicks than her. Some girl pipes in that Stevie Nicks is fat, as some girl always does when you mention Stevie Nicks. We all start saying stuff like "She is not!" "So what?" "Some fat chicks are babes!" Then we go outside a kill two 12-packs that Rog brought along. TRON was a really good movie.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 11:51:23 AM CST

    Tron is the Greatest!!!

    by doug exeter

    Tron is one of the greatest movies ever. I first saw it when I was probably around 6 or 7 and have loved it ever since. I used to pretend I was Flynn and would program my Commodore 64 with info from the book. I even wore a windbreaker like he does! And have said "That is a big door" probably a few hundred times since then.
    So to hear that there will finally be a sequel to Disney's best movie is great joy.
    More power to you and Godspeed Mr. Lisberger!!!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:00:56 PM CST

    Hey Buzz!

    by doug exeter

    The game is "Dragon's Lair" and his name is Dirk the Daring, and that game ruled!
    "Space Ace" was a waste of space. It was ridiculously hard.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:07:24 PM CST

    >995 : KEY "TAB" = GOTO "DISC"> REF< {ACTION}

    by roger u. roundly

    They *must* retain the Blacklight surreality of the original TRON. It looks good *because* of the feeling of artificiality of the original effects, and not because of them. They jarred, in a good way. I especially liked the sky. And they should definitely have the MCP as the baddie again ( although there is a big opportunity to have some Dr Evil type fun, with the MCP declaring to the world's users: You cannot stop me, I have at my command, FORTY-EIGHT 'K' OF KILLING POWER!!!...) >GAME OVER<

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:43:50 PM CST

    tron was awesome

    by elsuave

    tron was awesome back in the day, and still rules to me, but a sequle some 20 years later screams that it will skrew up the coolness of tron....what i want to know is will everything still glow in neon lights?

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:54:02 PM CST

    The Tron arcade game ruled!

    by darthflagg

    I loved the music to the film too. I look forward to this more than Matrix 2.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 12:56:23 PM CST

    Do you honestly think they will make a sequel to Tron?

    by docsisx

    The first one did shitty business and the 'since' garnered fanbase for the flick doesn't qualify it for sequel material.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 1:32:15 PM CST

    MCP vs. Open Source!

    by vinylsaurus

    Forget hackers. Make it a holy war between the Linux geeks and the corporate overlords. Thousands of programs killing and dying on the electronic battlefield for their "users".

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  • Jan 03, 2001 1:33:34 PM CST

    Hey, Comedian, some info for you

    by dehayd

    You wondered how they got the look of the first Tron movie? You're right, they shot B&W footage of the actors in their costumes, then they pulled high-contrast Kodalith mattes from the costumes to produce the backlit glow effects, frame-by-frame. It was incredibly labor-intensive, requiring a lot of hand cleanup, and would be infinitely easier with today's technology. Many of the backgrounds weren't even computer-generated, but matte paintings.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 2:04:51 PM CST

    Tron 2.0 needs imagination!!!

    by visa geeza

    I reckon Tron 2.0 would be fantastic as long as they inject a bit of imagination into it....I mean, don't make the computer graphics the focus of it. Use the old style graphics but absolutely milk the idea of walking around inside computer components, Blade Runner style. Now I love Tron, but lets face it the setting was a bit bare. Beef it up. The fact that we have CGI in every other film doesn't matter, it's how they use it.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:30:23 PM CST

    mosdef, zinema & summer of 1982

    by mickeygun1

    yes, all of those movies were great. but you need to look forward 12 months from then to the summer of 1983. that's the year that gave us krull, jaw's 3-d, bmx bandits, superman 3, eddie macon's run, ... um wait. never mind.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 3:36:38 PM CST

    About bloody time.....BUT!

    by gabba-uk

    All these people all saying how they loved the original Tron... if there are that many fans of it why did it bomb so badly back in '82!! I remember my uncle taking me to see it and him commenting on how badly it had done in the US. Now surely the reason for this can't be the one he gave me which was "Because the Yanks wouldn't know an interesting and unique concept if they had one come along and bit them in the arse!" Always straight to the point my uncle! I just hope they dont CGI-it-up too much. What they did before worked and still would because the story would require it. The use of effects as a story telling device reached its zenith with Return of the Jedi, which I still mantain to be best special effects EVER placed on film. CGI is great within its limits but there was just something more.......real, about the space ships in Jedi. These's a lot to said for the old optical projection system that ILM first developed for the first Star Wars films. Tell me I'm wrong here folks by all means but I dont think I am. If Pixar are to get involved with Tron 2.0 (which I've heard they are..) then I'm sure my fears will not be realised. And someone else mentioned her earlier and I'm curious myself. Just how is Cindy Morgan nowadays? Boy, did I have a crush on her after seeing Tron at the flicks at 10 yrs old. So you can imagine the effect it had on 6 yrs later, when awash with hormones, I saw her in Caddyshack for the first time.. wow! If shes in it with Jeff and Bruce and maybe David Warner too (looking for revenge perhaps?)then I'm first in the queue.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 4:02:17 PM CST

    About Tron's musical score

    by kentucky colonel

    Will Steve Perry be getting back with Journey to do another song? I sure hope so! GORF was always my favorite game. From Space Cadet to Space Admiral all the way baybee! BERZERK was the name of the game in question, Mr. TRON, sir. Vanguard ruled, as did Asteroids (duh!) and CRAZY CLIMBER...otherwise known at the arcade as the "other" game by Nintendo (Donkey Kong being the other game and responsible for, um, like, EVERYTHING SINCE in video games?). TRON 2.0 could be way cool and I'll see it. I got $5 says that Disney/Pixar DOES NOT fuck this one up. Make it $10!

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  • Jan 03, 2001 4:05:53 PM CST

    Is It True That Michael Jackson Is Such A Fan Of TRON'S Musical

    by buzz maverik

    ...that he bought Wendi Carlos' former testicles, had them shellacked and gave them to Tito for a birthday present? I just made up that rumor and wondered if there was any truth to it.

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  • Jan 03, 2001 4:22:11 PM CST

    comedian and dehayd

    by thereisnospoon

    Labor intensive indeed. Much of the hand rotoscoped stuff was done by Chinese animators (watch the credits, about a third of it is in Chinese characters). There was an old timer at one of the first FX houses I worked at (Senior artists are people who ever worked on a shot with absolutely no digital work done on it - Old timers are people who worked in FX before or during Star Wars) He told me that the overtime pay on Tron was Cocaine. So imagine tweaking and then animating - drawing the same set of intricate lines on those costumes over and over again for every frame in that movie - The light tables, being fairly large horizontal glass surfaces probably got really popular . . .

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  • Jan 03, 2001 4:31:45 PM CST

    82 and summer movies

    by cooper2000

    Summer of 80 did rock but you forgot Star Trek 2 in the list!!
    I would probably see it but the first Tron movie was just ok. Is this the best Disney can come up with? Sequels and remakes to movies like Little Mermaid and Lady and the Tramp ? Whats next, Snow White updated for the year 2001?

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  • Jan 03, 2001 5:29:03 PM CST

    PUKE

    by filmhobbit

    I love Tron, and while hesitant, was excited about a sequel... but this idea is so tired it makes me want to PUKE.

    The Film Hobbit
    http://www.batcave.net/moviereviews/

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  • Jan 03, 2001 10:49:43 PM CST

    Go ahead and take a perfectly charming film

    by superninja

    and turn it into a hackeneyed remake. Go ahead, Disney. Really, a hacker? And can we just place our bets now that the hacker will be a young hunk in the 16-23 year range? Tron-Lite. That's what they should call it. Of course, I'm basing all of this on a shakey, unconfirmed premise but does anyone have high hopes for this one? The first film still holds up when in the computer -- the only times it appears at all dated are the scenes in the arcade and the clothing of the leads.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 3:55:55 AM CST

    URL for Walter/Wendy Carlos

    by demarzule

    http://www.wendycarlos.com/

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  • Jan 04, 2001 6:40:34 AM CST

    Tron soundtrack

    by stitch@

    Wow, after checking the Wendy Carlos site, I find that the Tron soundtrack was never released on CD. In other words, the original vinyl record must be worth MILLIONS.. eh, well, maybe not millions but must be a real collector's item. Wow, and to think I have it. Woo-hoo! Glad to see that Wendy is still doing music. I have to check her new stuff now.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 7:53:48 AM CST

    Tron sequel = memory lane

    by alphega

    I loved Tron so much I saw it 8 times in the theater back in 82' (I was 12 ). I'm one of those 30 somethings now who makes a living as a creative director in the web/multimedia industry... My thanks to movies that fueled out imagination..movies like Tron, E.T., Star Wars,Conan, Excalibur, Dragonslayer, etc... and video games like Tempest, Discs of Tron, Defender, Atari's Adventure and my favorite... Sinistar...(any body remember that one?)..I'm looking forward to the sequel...no matter how they do it.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 8:52:03 AM CST

    Tron 2000

    by petehammer

    In high school a friend and I joked about a movie called Tron 2000 which would be identical to the first except that the lightcycles (or lightbikes) could move in 3-dimensions, not only forward and side to side... but also UP AND DOWN!

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  • Jan 04, 2001 9:45:34 AM CST

    The TRON joint

    by abelard lindsay

    When Tron came out, I was 16. I rolled a special joint for the occasion - it was the size of cigar (took 4 rolling papers) and i had scraped my bowl for the resin to write "TRON Joint" along the sides, as well as crudely drawn figures from the movie I has copped from stills in OMNI. We blew that baby with a power-hitter in about one minute. God, how I loved that movie. I was stoned, but not as stoned as when John, Nanook, and I smoked this crazy hawaiian shit before "The Dark Crystal." When those Monks put their hand up and started droning, Nanook started cracking up, then me, then John. Every time! I couldn't remember a goddamned thing about that movie until I saw a couple of years ago.
    Anyways, Tron 2.0 without David Warner would be too horrifying to contemplate.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 10:01:04 AM CST

    It Should Be About Games Not Hacking

    by josephhowell

    There hasn't been a decent movie about videogames, even though games have now surpassed hollywood box office as a moneymaker (did you know that?). But there have been plenty of (rotten) hacker movies. Sure, there could be a great hacker film made if it had a sinister revolutionary tone, but these guys aren't the ones to make that film. No. This new tron should be about videogames; the original one had much more to do with games than hacking anyway.
    Yes the movie could and should touch on lots of things like monopolistic tendencies, online trading disasters, maybe it could even address the nasty dirty side of cyberspace too in some high-minded way. But there needs to be some meaningful social commentary on videogaming, specifically deathmatches.
    Personally I don't give a rat for Jeff Bridges or the Flynn character, unless he's spent the past fifteen years in a cabin addressing mailbombs to Bill Gates. Think about how much fun it would be to see the current state of computer advancement through the eyes of that character, having missed all of the years in between now and the first film's events.
    Alternatively, It might be fun to see a reverse tron, where the story starts out in cyberspace and moves to earth, which the digital characters would not view as the real world at all, no more of this User-worship, tell me computers consider themselves subservient today! They don't.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 11:15:33 AM CST

    Hey Comedian, Ray Walston was not in Star Wars

    by mad maximus

    The actor you are thinking of is Aflie Curtis who played the character Dr. Evazan. Check out www.IMDB.com

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  • Jan 04, 2001 12:16:31 PM CST

    Criswell predicts 2.0's plot...

    by telstarman

    One of the old mainframes from the first movie is upgraded so that the fans of the first film get to see the 'old' look of the place for a few minutes before the new one takes over. It will have something to do with rabid and dangerous red programs that want to go on the internet and destroy data. Heroic blue programs have to stop them. The virus/evil program can update itself to attack things in different ways and a 'user' has to go into the computer to battle this thing using human creativity. The good guys win and a sequel hook is planted so that we can see a TRON weekly cartoon or TV series, or a TRON 3.0 in another 20 years. I made all of this up and have absolutely no insider information of any kind whatsoever. Oh, and the movie will have dumb and unfunny one-liners all over the place. TelstarMan@yahoo.com

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  • Old Master C will have been lying in wait for several years for the opportunity to attempt another takeover. Something like Rising Sun, but with the villain housed in a mainframe, going up and allocating all the components for hardware using mergers and corporate takeovers so that suppliers are forced to turn to Master C to build their machines. A hacker who is an ex-employee of one of the corporate takeovers breaks in and discovers the connection and is sucked in. But this time, he joins the rebellion attempting to subdue Master Control before he can acquire all of the free systems. But the movie IS called Tron, so how the hell will they explain that? Oh, I bet my hot cross buns Allen will have a GRANDSON. How cute. And of course Master C will escape into the Internet at the end. Look for a cameo by Bruce Boxlitner as the rotating old guy.

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  • Jan 04, 2001 4:41:04 PM CST

    how do you say Tron in Canadian?

    by thessa

    y'know, in canada this is called
    "Reboot".


    not to knock tron It was a great film, but it's gotta really be something nowadays.

    I'd love to see a new updated Tron sequel! Until then, I'll watch Reboot...
    **Warning. Incoming game.***

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  • Jan 04, 2001 10:52:15 PM CST

    Grid Bugs

    by iamkirok

    What happened to the "Grid Bugs" that were introduced, then quickly discarded in the original film? The bugs were featured prominently in the Tron arcade game, as if they were to be a major part of movie. I wonder if Tron and friends encounter with the bugs was actually filmed, but then cut to keep the film's running time around 90 minutes. Maybe a special edition DVD will someday be produced with the footage restored, if it exists at all. P.S. A special edition treatment of Tron's companion film "The Black Hole", would also be nice. Both movie's are interesting relics of Disney's somewhat less than successful foray into cinematic SciFi, during the Star Wars era.

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  • Jan 05, 2001 11:13:55 PM CST

    Did anyone ever see that movie Tron?

    by s1mps0n

    Man that movie is really lame unless you have the mind of homer simpson or a young child. I will say that it has awesome visuals though. The Matrix was MUCH better then Tron, at least the Matrix was making relevent social commentary. Finally that crappy game with the knight was known as Dragon Slayer i think, it was by the same guy as Space Ace, and used laser discs so that is why it sucked so bad, it was all about timing.

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  • Jan 05, 2001 11:17:05 PM CST

    Did anyone ever see that movie Tron?

    by s1mps0n

    Man that movie is really lame unless you have the mind of homer simpson or a young child. I will say that it has awesome visuals though. The Matrix was MUCH better then Tron, at least the Matrix was making relevent social commentary. Finally that crappy game with the knight was known as Dragon Slayer i think, it was by the same guy as Space Ace, and used laser discs so that is why it sucked so bad, it was all about timing.

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  • Jan 05, 2001 11:17:14 PM CST

    Did anyone ever see that movie Tron?

    by s1mps0n

    Man that movie is really lame unless you have the mind of homer simpson or a young child. I will say that it has awesome visuals though. The Matrix was MUCH better then Tron, at least the Matrix was making relevent social commentary. Finally that crappy game with the knight was known as Dragon Slayer i think, it was by the same guy as Space Ace, and used laser discs so that is why it sucked so bad, it was all about timing.

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  • Jan 07, 2001 4:53:26 AM CST

    Grid Bugs Special Edition

    by liquidnitrate

    The infamous Grid Bugs were never a part of the TRON storyline or movie until the very last minute just prior to the film's release, when the marketing department insisted on their inclusion for merchandising purposes. That's why the shots of the Grid Bugs seem out of place, and are only connected to the surrounding scene by Lori's ADR-ed voice-over..........................
    All of this behind-the-scenes detail and MUCH more are revealed in the TRON CAV Special Edition laserdisc boxed set, as well as 1982 editions of American Cinematographer and other similar magazines you can find at used book stores and comic conventions...................... as for the criticisms of TRON's lack of intelligent social commentary (esp. compared to modern movies like The Matrix), remember that TRON was developed and released at a time when 2600 kilobytes of data was considered state-of-the-art in home computer entertainment. Most people of that era were utterly ignorant of computer technology and how it worked... so expecting anything more out of a 20-year-old flick is like complaining that newspaper reports about the Wright Brothers' first flight neglected to analyze the influence this "aeroplane" device would have on eventual warfare and consumer transportation. Criticism is fair when it gives credit where due. All things considered, cheesiness and bubble-headedness aside, I consider TRON to be remarkably ahead of its time and supremely ambitious in its sensory spectacle.

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  • Either they are too young to remember or they weren't born yet.
    This shows by them being completely ingnorant of the early eighties when PC's started taking off. Face it, their whiney bitch asses are spoiled, failing to see that movies they view as "crap" opened the floodgates for the movies of today since at that time were so groundbreaking. I'm sorry, but face it Tron did the whole "cyberspace- getting sucked into the computer thing" way before the matrix and possibly, only possibly, before William Gibsons Neromancer. I'd have to check out the copyright on that one, but im 95% sure Tron came first. So for the Matrix fanboys out there,PLEASE, spare me the rant and do yourself a favor and read Neuromancer, now yes, I know it has no pictures, but once you put it down, you will realize how unoriginal the Matrix is.
    Come to think of it, back then I thought my Atari 800 was the shit at that time. :)

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  • Apr 15, 2001 6:10:41 PM CDT

    Cindy Morgan (Yori/Lora) Tron Q&A

    by tronboy

    This is from April 13 2001: http://users.aol.com/esotek/tronmain.html

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  • Mar 01, 2011 3:33:49 PM CST

    9 years later

    by orcus

    It happened

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