Dec. 25, 2000, 12:46 p.m. CST
It wasnt as bad as Ew said it was , but I expected a lot more. It is nothing compared to Fargo or Blood Simple.
Dec. 25, 2000, 1:33 p.m. CST
I too was introduced to the Coens with Raising Arizona and to this day it's still my fav! I laughed so hard the first time I watched it I almost shit my pants! Even now when I watch it and it reduces me to tears from laughing so hard. I've waited so long praying the coens would do another wacked out comedy! The Big Lebowski was great but this looks even funnier! I've watched the trailer 100 times and I love it. I plan to see it as soon as it shows up in Toledo.
Dec. 25, 2000, 2:09 p.m. CST
by The guy
I saw it recently. Easily the worst movie I've seen all year. Makes Dude Where's My Car, seem intelligent. I remember getting up 8 times during the film, and I never do that. I'm beginning to think Fargo, Blood Simple, and Raising Arizona were a fluke.
Dec. 25, 2000, 2:22 p.m. CST
I was vey surprised by this one. Even though some scenes felt rushed, it was one of the better theater going days for me this year.
Dec. 25, 2000, 3:01 p.m. CST
the coens will go down in history, and this one will be one of their top movies. miller's crossing was the best, with fargo, o brother, lebowski, blood simple behind it. awesome, awesome movies. when are they gonna get goin on DVD's? GravyLeggedAkira doesn't have a attention span.
Dec. 25, 2000, 3:29 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
Moriarty, you rule! Keep writing, and stop keeping us in suspense for the rest of your "Best of 90s" articles.
Dec. 25, 2000, 3:37 p.m. CST
by movie prose
First off, let me state that I'm a big Raimi fan. But the Gift was a major letdown. The movie (among other things) is a mystery thriller with a supernatural edge. But as a whodunnit, it's a total failure. I made the killer within the first few minutes of the film. I like to think of myself as a bit of a pro at this genre as I have sold at least one whodunnit to a major studio (scheduled for production in early 2001)and have another one in development with an A-list director. The first red flag to me as to the killer's identity happened before I even knew where the plot was going. Why did this happen? Bad casting. Raimi decided to cast the character a little off-center and when you put this particular actor/actress in a certain environment, it just reeks fake -- and rubs you the wrong way. Moriarty suggests great sleight of hand. Well, I seriously beg to differ. The whole way through the film, I was telling myself this has to be a really smart red herring. I wanted to be wrong. I even had figured out who would be the perfect killer for the piece, and was convinced that's where they were headed all along. But, no, they took the cliched road. All other red herrings in the film are WAY to obvious. The set-up is weak. And when you look at MOTIVE, there is only one character who has any real motive to be the killer -- and guess what? IT IS HIM/HER!!!! Most of the fault lies with Billy Bob Thornton and Tom Epperson's lazy screenplay. I can't really knock the performances, except to say that they were in service of flatlined material. There was nothing ORIGINAL or inspired about this film -- nothing to elevate the genre. If you want to see a great whodunnit that delivers on the killer's identity, then rent SEA OF LOVE (by Richard Price). The way Price camouflages the real killer in that film is sheer brilliance. Kudos to Harold Becker's direction as well. You might all come at me with the suggestion that "The Gift" was a lot more than a whodunnit, and even if that was the intent, the filmmakers failed. I cannot understand why the studio thought this would be a viable, even commercial prospect. Even if "The Gift" does do great box office (which I doubt), it's just a weak entry in a tired (mainly) 80's straight to video genre of psychic murder mysteries. Even "The Eyes of Laura Mars" did it better. And, as a Raimi fan, he's superb cinematic style is missing from this film. I'm not just talking about his kinetic camera moves, but even the elegance of composition he displayed in "A Simple Plan." Save your money and wait for video or cable.
Dec. 25, 2000, 5:53 p.m. CST
And no Keanu Bashing?!?!?! The critic's and geek's favorite whipping boy attempts a serious, dramtic role under the helm of yet another highly respected director and manages to emerge unscathed from the jowls of Moriarty's literary chomping? Whoa...
Dec. 25, 2000, 9:37 p.m. CST
What this woman wanted was for that movie to end with Mel Gibson getting shot in the head. I'm usually pretty forgiving of movies but that one didn't just suck, it was so bad it made me angry! I can't even get into describing what made it so bad right now because I don't want to devote any more of my time to that festering pile of crap. Maybe later. Just let me warn you -- steer clear.
Dec. 26, 2000, 1:06 a.m. CST
for the love of all that is holy....please make every piece you write exactly like this one. and by that i mean, leave out all the mongo and henchmen and faux-quirky fantasy bit that absolutely destroys every other piece you do. this is the first time i've read a review of yours that didn't make me think you're a self-indulgent half-wit still hooked on D&D. do yourself (and this site) a huge favor, and ditch the bullshit.
Dec. 26, 2000, 1:15 a.m. CST
by The Founder
The gift looks intresting, and I agree on one aspect of a poorly done film is when you can figure out the killer before you even make it to the half way point of the movie.Well that sort of thing never really bothered me if the movie is entertaining, and hell some films have even been pretty good even though you managed to put together the ending, and who the killer is. Dracula 2000 was very entertaining ( well to me at least)and although none of the movie wasn't anything we all haven't seen before it was worth the price of admission. I take a tiny bit of that back,their was one aspect of Dracula's orgin that was new, but it's nothing that's going to shock you or make you hmmmm. Oh I almost forgot to mention that the guy playing Dracula was pretty good hell none of the acting was bad, everyone did a fine job.
Dec. 26, 2000, 1:27 a.m. CST
by The Founder
and I know this doesn't have anthing to do with the topic, but check out "Finding Forrester" this was one of the best I've seen this year, and with all the movies that come and gone in 2000 it ain't been that many.Well I will say that if you're in to action then this film isn't for you. It's pure drama nothing more, but it's pretty damn good. All of the cast gave good performances(even the actors with small parts did a good job with what they had to work with, and yes even Busta Rymes did good).
Dec. 26, 2000, 2:19 a.m. CST
by Zombie Vig
Just a passing thought,the Coen Brothers should do the 'Preacher' movie. It will rock.
Dec. 26, 2000, 3:41 a.m. CST
KATIE HOLMES TOPLESS. That in and of itself should be enough to at least give this one a shot. Add in supposedly fine performances by Cate and Swank, and this one could be good. Sorry to go to the "Celebrity Nudity" card, but we're all friends here, right?
Dec. 26, 2000, 5:19 a.m. CST
Dec. 26, 2000, 7:59 a.m. CST
by Smilin'Jack Ruby
Dracula 2000 was a great genre party. I had a blast at that fuckin' piece and I really can't wait for Dimension to start cranking out straight-to-video sequels. This is the best franchise starter since "Prophecy" even though there are those of you who will laugh and say, "so?" As for "The Gift," there are going to be a lot of people who just hate that flick. Gotta side with Mori on this one, though - I dug "The Gift" a lot and think it had a lot to offer. The other holiday fare, "Cast Away," "The Family Man," and others, well, "The Gift" was better.
Dec. 26, 2000, 9:01 a.m. CST
Saw two returns to allegory in storytelling this weekend. Can our heroes escape the oppression of materialism in a world filled with greed and inequlity, and find the true meaning of love? O Brother is a classic, a gem, a jewel in the rough, a wonderful film all around inspired by the traditional Irish- and African-American music that fills it. Just relax and let it wash over you. Mamet's new comedy, State and Main is also a good film, if more spartan by design, a must for fans of self-aware insider's takes on what bastards filmakers are, mixed with Mamet's snappy deconstructive subtext. Rebecca Pidgeon does her thing too, deceptively subdued but somehow smoldering, and radiant in her small-town schtick.
Dec. 26, 2000, 10:55 a.m. CST
Hi everyone; long-time reader, first-time writer. The problem with Coen films for me is my expectations are usually too high going in. Lebowski, at first, was a disappointment (after several viewings on cable, however, it has grown significantly on me). O Brother surpassed everything, mainly because I had very little idea what to expect (a key, I believe, to enjoying the Coens to the fullest). George Clooney, however, seemed out of place. Up until this point, the Coens had either cast perfectly, or adjusted their actors to fit the film. Clooney, I feel, missed the mark, and stuck out. While not having an accent may fly in Perfect Storm, he should have given it a shot here. As for his performance, the fighting scene in Woolworth's was the one time he seemed to fit in the style of the film. Otherwise, brilliantly written, shot and scored. I'll hang up now and listen to your response.
Dec. 26, 2000, 11:19 a.m. CST
by GEEKBASHER 3.0
I did not care for any of the actors or charecters, although I do admit, it could have been allot worse, but still, I felt like it could have been DIRECT TO VIDEO and I probably would have enjoyed it allot more, with all the movies out, sitting in Dracula 2000 felt like a Waste of Time, Jennifer Episito did make a kick ass Fierce Vampire Chick, other then that, It was Tripe material with awful acting and lame charecters.........Haven't seen Cast Away yet, does it suck or is it really as good as everyone says it is? P>S THE TRAILER FOR SOLE SURVIOVERS IS THE WORST PIECE OF SHIT TRAILER...WHY?? WHY??? WHY???
Dec. 26, 2000, 11:26 a.m. CST
by Toe Jam
This is like the fifth or sixth time I've had to bitch about this! In the immortal words of Ralph Wiggum: "Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Dec. 26, 2000, 12:28 p.m. CST
But that's just me, I guess.
Dec. 26, 2000, 2:28 p.m. CST
i could agree more. it is hard to compare the coen brother's films to others. they operate on another level. i enjoy being one of the few in on the secret.
Dec. 26, 2000, 2:31 p.m. CST
i couldn't agree more. it is hard to compare the coen brother's films to others. they operate on another level. i enjoy being one of the few in on the secret.
Dec. 26, 2000, 3:27 p.m. CST
Of course it is not "Country" nor "Roots of Country" It is officially called "Bluegrass", and besides myself I know of dozens of others that listen to it on a regular basis other than rock, classical, whatever. I cannot wait to see "O Brother Where Art Thou". Even if I have not been very impressed with any other Coen projects, this one was made for me. By the way...did anyone else know that Cannibal The Musical is also based off Homer's The Odyssey as this film was?
Dec. 26, 2000, 3:57 p.m. CST
Actually, 0007, bluegrass as a term did not exist until Bill Monroe came along and invented it with the song Mule Skinner Blues in 1938, which didn't become popular until 1940 or so. No, the real question is whether the Soggy Bottom Boys are based at all on an existing group. I mean, "Tommy" Johnson is in the film. Also, Moriarty mentioned there being an allusion to the Lotus Eaters from the Odyssey in Oh Brother, but I couldn't figure that one out. I was stretching to connect the two "smokeout" scenes to Scylla and Charybdis, but I don't really think they're related. So... where's the Lotus Eaters?
Dec. 26, 2000, 5:30 p.m. CST
by Mr Glass
what was Brother about? it's about hicks! Hicks talking funny! I think it deserves an oscar for best rednecks. This movie was dumb. Fargo and Raising Arizona were infinitely better than this piece of drab crap. OOHHH george clooney playing george clooney with an alabaman accent. this movie blew. and so did Big Lebowski and come to think of it so did Hudsucker proxy. More FARGO! PLEASE!
Dec. 26, 2000, 6:10 p.m. CST
I haven't seen "O Brother" yet, but I can't wait until it finally shows up in our backwoods theaters. A little "O Brother" FYI: Dan Tyminski did Clooney's singing for the film. He's a member of Alison Krauss's band Union Station, and he released his first solo album last year called, I think, "Carry Me Cross the Mountain." It's a kickass album, as far as bluegrass goes. So if you like "George's" singing in "O Brother," go check out Dan Tyminski's album. --firstname.lastname@example.org
Dec. 26, 2000, 7:24 p.m. CST
by Chad Piercewell
You can't expect every Coen brothers film to be some spectacular wow film like miller's crossing or fargo. Sometimes they can be of simpler pleasures, like O Brother. Deal with it.
Dec. 26, 2000, 11:45 p.m. CST
Thanks for giving us a REAL review of The Gift, one not done by some horny virgin fanboy. You are officially cooler than harry(not hard to do)
Dec. 27, 2000, 1:48 a.m. CST
by Studio Snitch
Why the fuck doesn't anyone ever mention "The Hudsucker Proxy"? I just don't get it. Sure, "Fargo" was a nice drama with goofy characters, "Raising Arizona" is piss your pants funny, but "Hudsucker" is absolutely flawless. It's just one of those films where it all comes together, and is a great satire of corporate America. I know it didn't really get released, but then again most of the Coen brothers films haven't exactly been b.o. champions even though they're great films. Anyways, "Hudsucker", I feel, really stands out amongst the Coen boys' work, and deserves a second look, or in most cases, a first. It has well rounded characters, plenty of long term pay-offs (as while as a lot of in the moment kind of jokes), great production design and vlaue, magnificently manipulative cinematography, and one of the best supporting casts ever put on screen. Plus, Jennifer Jason Leigh is the leading lady.
Dec. 27, 2000, 4:51 a.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
Studio Snitch, I like THE HUDSUCKER PROXY quite a bit. It's a film I got tired of having the fight about with people, though. I saw the film at a test screening originally, and I'll admit... it made a difference. I went into it cold, no poster with Tim Robbins brandishing a Hula Hoop dancing in my head. No, when I saw it, I had no idea what he meant each time he held up his circle and said, "You know... for kids!" It was a great joke, and the final revelation of the Hula Hoop brought the house down. The audience went berserk for it. If you'd been at that test screening (and Robbins and JJLeigh and the Coens and Joel Silver all were), you would have thought they had the year's biggest film on their hands. These weren't rabid Coen fans, like at the opening night of one of their movies, either. This was the same kind of random crowd of demographic faces that get pulled for every test screening. That film worked, and the only thing that changed was one joke -- one beautiful, achingly funny joke -- got cut because it shocked the audience. During the montage of people using the Hula Hoop with the cheesy narrator voice, there was one additional cut. Right after they show Mom using the Hula Hoop while she does housework, there was a cut to an obvious soundstage jungle, a few plants and a rented lion standing behind men in blackface and bad b-movie costuming. "Even in darkest Africa, our friend the Negro has discovered the joys of the Hula Hoop!" Absolute silence from the audience after the joke. But how many test screenings have you seen where there was literally only one cosmetic snip between that film and the finished picture? I blame Warner Bros. for killing the movie by not knowing how to sell it. I definitely still adore the film and all its absurdity and beauty. Glad to see you enjoy it, as well.
Dec. 28, 2000, 6:49 a.m. CST
by half vader
Jee-zuss, man! "He's"??? You call yourself a writer who's sold a script? You can call yourself a BIT of a pro when you learn to check your own work. Then again, maybe you are fairly respectable as scriptwriters go these days, considering that patronising garbage like Godzilla and Armageddon can get to the screen and earn over 100 million domestic.;) ________________Here's my vote for Hudsucker. Although Bridges' lethargic performance was so complete it seemed to slow the pace of the film itself, I loved HP from start to finish. Raising Arizona is a work of genius, and as time passes it only goes to prove that Sonnenfeld stole everything he (half-)learned from the Coens. Some cinematographers should just be put down when they get the 'DP bug".
Dec. 28, 2000, 1:54 p.m. CST
by movie prose
Excuse me for failing to proofread a few, hastily fired off lines to Talk Back. I guess I'll just turn in my WGA card at the front desk. Guys like you get a real hard-on when you can point out a few typos in a public forum, as if to suggest the writer "can't write" -- especially when he's declared himself to be a pro. I've read Academy Award winning screenplays with the same typos or stumbles in grammar. They are not intentional; the writer obviously knows better... and guess what? We're fucking human, okay? Get over yourself.
Dec. 28, 2000, 4:03 p.m. CST
It seems almost laughable that someone who touts themselves as a successful screenwriter tells someone else to get over themselves. Are you so insecure that you need to state your qualifications before you express an opinion? I'm not going to give you too hard a time, but, just so you know, your tooting of your own horn seems a bit of a turnoff. I personally am looking forward to the Gift greatly. Its Raimi's first chance to make a Raimi movie since a Simple Plan. For Love of the Game obviously confined him (and I didn't think it was that bad, feel free to flame me). I'm also no someone who disects a whodunnit while watching it trying to find out who is the perpatrator. Movies that have to many forced twists and turns (Wild Things, Reindeer Games) are horrid. I'd rather see a slightly sly take on it rather than a forced barrage of twists and turns. Raimi is a God, and if the Gift dissapoints me, I'll eat my words, but until that time...(And MProse, how do you see a movie thats not due out for several weeks? Sneak Preview?)
Dec. 28, 2000, 4:50 p.m. CST
by half vader
You were a bit hasty again, Prose. If you'll notice at the end of my little rant, there's a little "nudge nudge wink wink" fella.
Dec. 28, 2000, 6:40 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
Just felt like pointing that out.
Dec. 28, 2000, 8:17 p.m. CST
by movie prose
Not to make too big a deal of this whole thing -- but the only reason I offered up my "credentials," was to give Talk Back readers a sense of where I was coming from. If that is perceived as arrogance, or a "turn-off," then so be it. I'm very picky when it comes to this genre, because it's been (no pun intended) done to death. And not too many writers and directors have the skills to camouflage the killer(s) in these pieces. It calls for very subtle writing and directing. The slightest anomaly in character and casting just plain simply calls attention to itself. Red herrings can't be too red and the real killer(s) can't be too obvious. A successful script of this nature is far more difficult to construct than most people give credit for. It's a constant tightrope walk to fake out the viewer. And, yes, part of the fun of watching these films is to figure out who the killer is before the info is given to you. If the film outsmarts you, then you respect it. If you figure it out too early, then it's a little transparent, don't you think? Just because it's a Sam Raimi film or a Wes Craven film, or whoever, doesn't mean that it's a home run. There are people on this Talk Back bitching about Zemeckis' "What Lies Beneath." He's a very well regarded director, but he's not infallible when it comes to directing within a new genre. If I'm going to dissect a whodunnit plot -- unfavorably -- I'd like people to understand that I'm somewhat experienced in doing so, because I have walked in the writer's shoes. I've also read and seen most of the films in this genre, and I think I have some perspective on what works and what doesn't. But, at the end of the day, it's just MY opinion. Also, if I really wanted to name drop and blow my horn, I'd offer up some credits and names of people I'm presently working with. By the way, I never claimed to be "successful," but rather a professional -- meaning someone who has been paid for his work in this field. To answer your question, being a WGA member, I have access to early voting screenings of most films vying for Academy and guild attention. I actually enjoyed Raimi's "For Love of the Game" and rate it a better movie than "The Gift." We'll just have to wait and see what your reaction is to the film.
Jan. 1, 2001, 3:44 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
I fuckin' love that movie. By far the most atmospheric of all the Coen Bros. movies. I saw it as a study, and before it we watched scenes from early screwball comedies so we could get an idea of what the movie was going for. And the guy who mentioned the "blackface" joke...I can see how that would have been taken out. But then again...it was an atmospheric movie, and I would've liked to see that scene.
Jan. 1, 2001, 3:45 p.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
I may be missing something big, but I didn't notice any reference to the Lotus Eaters while watching the movie.
Jan. 19, 2001, 10:44 p.m. CST
What Moriarty, along with every other reviewer of this movie has made the mistake of doing is assuming that the Tommy Johnson character is actually a reference to Robert Johnson. This is not necessarily the case. Robert Johnson is famous for having said he sold his soul to the devil, but he was not by any means the only blues singer to have claimed it. There was a real bluesman named Tommy Johnson, no relation to Robert Johnson, who said this: "If you want to learn how to make songs yourself, you take your guitar and your go to where the road crosses that way, where a crossroads is. Get there be sure to get there just a little before 12 that night so you know you'll be there. You have your guitar and be playing a piece there by yourself. A big black man will walk up there and take your guitar and he'll tune it. And then he'll play a piece and hand it back to you. That's the way I learned to play anything I want." So, there is a very high probability that the Coens had Tommy Johnson in mind, not Robert. Although, there is a shot in the movie, when Tommy is playing the guitar, when he crosses one leg over the other and looks very much like the only existing photo of Robert Johnson. So, most likely, that much is an homage.