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Hola folks, Harry here. This was an interesting blurb... although it was a bit of a no brainer. I mean, Philip Seymour Hoffman is in all of PTA's films... right? Was he in SYDNEY (aka Hard Eight)? That's right, the crap table... cool friggin part! SO.. with Phil chiming in... that only means a matter of time before John C Reilly, Phillip Baker Hall and Luis Guzman admit to it.... and you should know, this isn't exactly a comedy... Or so PTA has told me. Here ya go....
I just read this on PTAnderson.com:
Philip Seymour Hoffman has said in an interview with
Empire magazine that he would be working on the next
PTA film, and confirmed that it would star Adam
Sandler and Emily Watson. He couldn't say anything
abut the title of the film since "The title has
changed about three times."
Being a big fan of PTA, I can't fucking wait.
For the little blurb I got this from, goto
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I dont think Sandler can convert to drama like previous comedians have. Am I first? If I am than I shall rock on!
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I cringed every time pta praised Sandler in an interview, as I still view him as a talentless buffoon who plays the same border-line retarded character in every movie (Wedding Singer excepted, but thats just mediocre)- so it comes down to this.....If pta can make Sandler a legitimate star in a non-comedic role, then there is no mistaking the fact that he is GOD. However, despite the fact that I'm a pta fanatic, I see this project as having "bomb" written all over it. Please, please, please pta....don't let this film be your "1941"-make me eat my words about Sandler, I beg you!
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Everytime I hear about Sandler with this guy, I cringe. But I trust PTA, and Sandler was really good in the wedding singer. I guess people said the same types of things to tarantino when he wanted travolta in pulp fiction after he made look whos talking 1 and 2. PTA is so wonderful! I have to trust him. I swear, though, Philip Seymour Hoffman better be in this film. I hope the role is more interesting than magnolia, though. Yeah, he did a great job, but it was with a small role. he just kind of had to stand there and cry at everything, and cocksucker shit balls or fuck really quickly. PTA didn't tell us about Parma, really.
I'm thrilled about Emily Watson, though. she's got a real wild girl waiting to be uncaged. I wished/still wish she would do a Janis movie.
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Yeah! I think Mister Glass is right. Sandler cannot convert to drama. It will be suck big time. Unless, PTA wants his film to be suck. Then, it will be alright with me. But then again, I think PTA should pick another actor to play the role. And Sandler, please leave drama film alone. Okay? Just stick to where you are now...
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Dec 09, 2000 2:57:36 AM CST
Emily Watson on screen with Adam Sandler....that's like Ralph Fi
by maul99
Jesus, this sucker is going to be very interesting. PTA is the only genius who could pull this sort of pairing off, because I don't know if Adam Sandler has the ability to be as good as Jim Carrey was in The Truman Show or Man On The Moon. I absolutely adore Emily Watson, so I sincerely hope that it works. She is the finest actress working in film today, and if you don't believe me go and watch Hilary & Jackie or Breaking The Waves. Absolute brilliance. Now, paired with the star of such gems as Billy Madison, The Waterboy, and the utterly inane Little Nicky....I'm just a tad bit speechless. I'm crossing my fingers.
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I think this is the final egg in the basket. He put Marky Mark on screen, making him Best Actor material. He made me sympathize with the porn community. He made me HATE the clerk at the pharmacy. He made Tom Cruise a conceited chauvanist and then made him break down in front of his dying father and shed tears (accordingly drawing my own). He is a film school nerd who has bagged Fiona Apple. I really don't think there's anything PTA can't do, and he apparently agrees. He will probably turn Happy Gilmore into Laurence Olivier.
Be warned, however. If PTA does succeed in turning Adam Sandler into a real actor, I believe it will only be a matter of time before he takes over the world. I, for one, would like to welcome our new Overlord and pledge my allegiance to his reign. -
All I can say to that is F-IN A!
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They both get their cheap laughs about of mocking disabled people... And what was Tom Green doing in Charlies Angeles?! "I'm Chad, the Chad, do you like the Chad?"... Damn you Green, damn you to Hell!
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...but loathe Tom Green. Emily Watson on the other hand I don't like too much. All in all, I don't think I can care too much about this flick, the "Davey & Whitey"-thing sounds more interresting!
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Boogie Nights was second rate Scorsese, Magnolia third rate Altman. What's the Sandler movie gonna be, fourth rate Frank Coraci?
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Kyle reese, you sound like some kind of dirty, dirty handicapper. Your biased opinion in worthless so why don't you grab your government check, hop in your wheelchair and take a free ride down easy street, retard!
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Dec 09, 2000 11:14:51 AM CST
working title for this movie: THE SACRED AND THE PROFANE
by quizkiddonnie
JEezis! It never ceases to amaze me how little tolerance the lightsaber crowd has for Sandler. Our man Paul will make him dance for us! dance the magic dance! there's usually lots of shit talkin in PTA movies (think Sandler: "You will listen to every damn word I have to say!" or the Happy G tirades)and there's likely to be lots of earnest dramatic dialogue (he was getting somewhere in Big Daddy, right?). I think it's a match made in heaven. So is Adam + Emily, she's magical, this movie is going to work. Thanx for the blurb confirming what we already assume, which is the assembling of the PTA repertory company again, so I'm betting on PSHoffman and Melora and Julianne and John C. and PBHall and Alfred Molina and LGuzman and let's have MACY please. Cheadle and Marky Mark are probably ready to get back in a PTA joint. I'd also like to see a crossover of the PTA/Adam Sandler universes, which would mean the inclusion of Adam's NYU buddies, and RSmigel and Schneider and KNealon and Lovitz. (I love Lovitz onscreen. He rules the first 5minutes of Happiness like he rules the first 5minutes of Little Nicky. He even has his own theme song now. But I digress.) I'm all about a clown-car approach to casting, and I'd vote for everybody who was ever cool to be in this movie. Off the current SNL crew how about RACHEL DRATCH she is fucking hilarious and cute and smart. I love PTA's casting of supporting players so whatever he does will be golden. (Melinda Dillon! John Doe! Nicole A.Parker! and HEnry Gibson, who never played Dorf on Golf!) If ANY future PTA movie is HALF as good as the Anna Nicole Smith installment of MTV's Fanatic, I AM SO THERE! So all you droid-strokers in the nerd herd get outta Adam Sandler's hairspace!
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Adam Sandler in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. Paul Thomas Anderson writing for SNL. Adam Sandler says that it's not entirely a comedy. Paul Thomas Anderson states that it's like a drama, his previous works in fact. Instantly, so many jump to conclusions, saying you don't want Adam Sandler in a drama. Have some of you even seen a PTA flick? There are many parts in Sydney, Boogie Nights, and Magnolia that are quite humorous (Dirk Diggler's change of direction to music, Frank T.J. Mackey's 'Seduce and Destory'). The truth is we have no idea what this film is going to be about, and PTA is usually very hush hush about his films so we might not even have a clue about what the film is going to be like until we see a trailer for it. I'm a huge fan of PTA's work and do I have respect for his decision of casting Adam Sandler? How the fuck would I, or any of you honestly know! Nobody knows anything about the movie yet, not even a name of one character. Everyone has an opinion in this matter, but not one of us can jump out and say PTA is out of his mind or Adam Sandler shouldn't do this 'drama' because we don't know jack shit about it. Just try not to jump to conclusions so fast and wait till we find out more about the film in general.
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First of all, PTA is a god to me. I adore him. Magnolia is playing in my head 24/7. Anyway, I had a dream the other night that I was reading the press release for his new movie and it said that it was called "The Greatest [something]" or "The Most [something]". I can't really remember. But I do remember that it starred all of PTA's usuals, Adam Sandler, Emily Watson, Sean Penn, and it was a musical featuring songs by Fiona Apple. So... if any of this comes true, I'm gonna turn into Cate Blanchett in THE GIFT. Thank you.
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There are certain things that don't go together, like chips and gum, that you don't need to experience first hand to know that it's a bad idea.
Look, Sandler has one unique voice left, the one where he puts his hands before his face and mumbles (you know the one I'm talkin' about). I understand that some of you like his movies, but consider this an intervention: his movies are shit and you deserve better. Paul Thomas Anderson better?
I love PTA. He's changed my mind about what I thought of Mark Wahlberg, who is now a favorite of mine. But, I woulda thought the same thing if I had seen Ren. Man first. Comparing Sandler to Travolta is a huge mistake, as Travolta had a decent career before sinking into obscurity and being reborn in Pulp Fiction. Sandler started with Billy Madison and it's gone downhill ever since.
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...what's next a movie with Funny man Jim Carrey and some dramatic director like oh i dunno Milos Forman? oh wait that already happened and Jim Carrey did an amazing job. So it's possible, so everyone quit pre-judging everything until you get a chance to make an educated decision, most of you PTA fans think he is God anyway right? So trust him, and everyone back up about two feet and give Sandler some room. DropKick splittin like firewood.
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Dec 09, 2000 6:40:13 PM CST
Hey! News About A Real Director, Unlike "Mr. Clerks" Lecturing P
by easy rider
This sounds interesting as hell. So much more interesting than a John-Hughes-Wannabe repeating his Superman story for the umpteen billionth time. The fact that PTA is helming it already makes it good.
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Seriously, that's like a post that just wants to be made fun of. PTA wants to become famous? You fucking moron, he was offered a Rolling Stone cover when Magnolia was released! He doesn't want to be big, he already is big, and he knows it (quite the ego the man has). And speaking of hacks, everyone hacks everyone! Fuck, even Orson Welles hacked off of D.W. Griffith. It's rare if you actually find one original person in Hollywood today like Darren Aronofsky or David O. Russel (who I'm sure have both ripped others off). But PTA has a gift, he takes something that has been used before and makes it feel fresh again. Sure, we all noted the coincedences between Boogie Nights and any Martin Scorsese picture. So what? He has an influence. What's a matter with that? And Magnolia isn't even close to the worst film of 99. The Haunting and Eye of the Beholder may helm that award, where as Magnolia was on... what... 80 critics top 10 lists? It's cool to not like a film, everyone has they're own opinion. But it's not cool to bash someone who is obviously far more talented than you are. If you could work alongside Robert Elswit (D.O.P of PTA's movies) and try to do that impressive of camerawork as seen in Magnolia be my guest. Fuck, if you can write a screenplay as good as Magnolia do it! Don't sit here and complain like a bitch! Go out there and impress the world with your new found skills and take the helm as one of the best writer/directors working on films today! But you're gonna just sit there and bitch some more aren't you? Yeah, go figure.
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You people amaze me. I swear, all you enjoy doing is complaining. Hear's an idea. . . wait and see a film before saying how bad it is. Is it really that hard to beleive that PTA and Sandler could make a good movie? Personally I like Sandler, and PTA is a great brilliant filmmaker. Give the guys a chance.
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It almost seems like Sandler's got kind of a 'Star Trek', good flick/bad flick agenda going on with his past few releases. Starting with 'The Wedding Singer',followed with his Harold Lloyd rip-off 'Waterboy', then playing an actual human being in 'Big Daddy', followed by 'Little Nicky', in which he used the most annoying made-up voice he's got. This bit of casting is a bold move for Anderson but just as bold a move for Sandler. Are they gonna go with a dual-targeted ad campaign on this ? One trailer for the PTA crowd and one aimed at 14-year -old boys ?
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Oh wait a minute, he's actually pretty good.Happy Gilmore ain't great but I'll watch it any day because of Julie Bowen. Magnolia was "good" but it wasn't "great " for anyone who remebers how close it feels to Grand Canyon. I'll take Hal Hartley's Simple Men over Magnolia any time.
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Dec 10, 2000 12:30:23 PM CST
ROFLMAO! Mail_Ocean, where the fuck did you pull that out of you
by castor777
First off, don't even try to badmouth Robert Elswit, the guy has been working on nearly 40 films as the cinematographer and worked on visual effect on a couple Star Wars flicks and E.T. (check out IMDB). Now about this last part of your ramblings - where the fuck did that come from? What just because everyone in here is praising PT Anderson they can't like Schindler's List, The English Patient, Out of Sight, Talented Mr. Ripley and Jerry Maguire? That's a load of crap. Fucking John Seale is one of the best D.O.P's out there and his work on The English Patient and the underrated Talented Mr. Ripley were incredible. Schindler's List is one of Spielberg's finest hours and I'll just leave it at that; after all, I'm a lil offended you accuse me of not liking that film because I think Anderson is amazing. Cameron Crowe is just fucking awesome and I think anyone who likes PTA's work will most likely appreciate Crowe. They are both great writers and great directors. PTA's ego is a lil bit bigger and he tends to do bigger projects, but most of the people on this site have been praising Almost Famous as the best film of this year (I personally liked it a lil more than both Say Anything and Jerry Maguire). I'll leave Out of Sight open to whatever anyone wants to say about it. I personally liked it a lot but I know others didn't so that ones rather hard to speak for quite a few. So don't fucking accuse me of saying something that I didn't say. I love Anderson's films, he's fucking incredible. And because I love them doesn't mean I can't like films by other directors. Fuck, you didn't mention films by Wes Anderson, David O. Russel, Darren Aronofsky, Frank Darnabout, etc., etc., etc. And I still stand by my words. If you want to sit there and bash Paul Thomas Anderson or Robert Elswit go out there and do beter. Because I'm a little touched by your "rubbing shit on the film and it'd look the same" crap, so I want you to prove your point.
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Castor777 - he said the same thing about rubbing shit on film in relation to silence of the Lambs... oh and he reckons Ridley Scott is a hack as well, and anyone that likes any of Scotts films is an idiot. He also believes that framing a shot, and the shape of the frame, and how objects relate within a frame, has nothing to do with cinematography. And as for that statement about how PTA "thinks by moving his camera all over the fucking place, he's having a distinct visual scheme" umm, well, maybe he doesnt quite understand WHY PTA "moves his camera all over the place", because I saw good reasons in many of the shots. and Tom Cruise? he was the only character in Magnolia whose "performance" was so overdone I could not forget for a moment that it was Tom Cruise "acting", rather than a real human being. I personally found Magnolia inconsistent, some really interesting stories, some soap opera moments... and as for the frogs being a gimmick, well the film was a little bit SHORT CUTS 2, but it seemed slightly less of a gimmick than the Earthquake in Short Cuts because the film trained us at the start to expect the unbelievable, and because the events had ramifications for the characters, more so than short cuts. Just my opinion. I felt some of the characterisations were were contrived than the most unbelieveable scene in the film, if anything. (that scene in the bar, where the wierd little guy was offering money for the barman with braces, just came accross as soo damn fake and contrived) but the film did admitedly have some very emotionally powerful moments. and as for his statement that "Both Boogie Nights and MAgnolia had obvious messages without any hidden agendas or double edge" er... wtf? you mean all movies NEED to have a hidden agenda? they cant just have a sincere straightforward story and still be a good film? I'm so glad that all the major studios have boring dull safe people in suits in control of projects, and not raving lunatics like Mali_Ocean - Christ - imagine what kind of world it would be if Mali was in Charge "hey Mali sir, I've got this Script called Bladerunner, I hear ist very good", "FUCK OFF YOU FANBOY DORK NERD PIECE OF SHIT HACK ASSHOLE CRACK SMOKING RETARD - TRUST ME - I'M ALWAYS RIGHT - THIS SCOTT GUY WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING, HE'LL FAIL MISERABLY JUST LIKE PT ANDERSON WILL, OUT OF SIGHT IS THE BEST FILM EVER MADE AND ANYONE WHO ARGUES WITH ME IS AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE LIMEY WAS FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BLADERUNNER WAS SHIT BECAUSE I DIDNT GET THE ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My god, who the fuck ever said Schindler's List sucks? I don't remember anyone ever saying that, I never said that, so I ain't gonna bother saying I did or didn't. That movie was amazing. Jerry Maguire, again, is a damn good film but I just happened to like Almost Famous. You don't believe me? Fuck, look on the National Board of Reviews Top Films Pick topic that Harry posted not to long ago and read my comments. But here's a good question to your arrogant ass - why can't someone like Magnolia and also like Schindler's List? They aren't even on the same ballpark. Schindler's list is about the fucking Holocaust and Magnolia is a mosiac story set in the Valley. Yeah, I see a striking coincedence there. And as for Star Wars goes it's not on my top 10 favorite films, not even on my top 20. I don't remember hearing that many people ever liking PTA and disliking Crowe. They are rather similar in the writing/directing field, PTA just happens to be out there choosing much more controversial topics like the porn industry. But in the end, they are about family. But you know what, whether you believe me or not; I really shouldn't give a shit. I mean obviously someone who refers to PTA as an amatuer is out of his fucking mind. Back to studying for finals...
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........Spielberg himself said he liked "Boogie Nights" (he even flew PTA out to meet him) so does that mean he doesn't like "Schindler's List"? Grow a brain before you post on the talkbacks anymore.
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Between Mali, his goofy hip-hop slang and his unintelligent view on film and the religious kook trying to save people's souls, this is turning into one fruity ass place. Anyways, I just wanted to state that I must be of a rare breed because I happened to like Magnolia, Jerry Maguire, AND Schindler's List. Apparantly Mali knows of rules that dictate this world that myself and others don't.
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So is copying hacking or whatever? I believe Harry and his buddy QT discussed this phenom a while back and thought it was hilarious how one guy hated some films and called the guy a hack so he can push his own stuff. The bottom line is yes it is taste but it goes beyond that. A film is more than a director, cinematographer, screenplay or even actor. It is magic. When it comes together you can get MORE or LESS than the sum of its parts. Mix Stanley Kubrick which I don't think anyone will knock (ocean..Castor you wanna knock this guy?) and mix Cruise and Kidman and you would imagine a masterpiece but what we got was a hollow Eyes Wide Shut. Now yes he wasn't alive to edit it but he DID shoot all the footage we saw and he might have finished it before he died if he didn't reshoot everything to death. Bottom line is it should have been genius but wasn't, an plenty of times there'll be magic and puff great film that no one involved will ever be able to duplicate. Now I question the quality of some of Ridley Scotts films but Alien was a great film. It shaped peoples imaginations for decades! Guess what? I think PTA is sort of overrated and Magnolia sort of sucked BUT I gotta admit Boogie Nights was more than simple flash photography cause I DON'T fall for that crap. Studio 54 did the flash camera work and sexy concepts and sucked because it was simply a bad film. BK had a Walhberg performance in the scene with his mother that rung as true as anything I have seen on film...now does PTA get ALL the credit for this? Does Marky Mark? Or is it just one of those thing when the stars aline? Can he repeat it again or is it just a one time magic...who knows but we'll find out and I think after Magnolia the case isn't closed yet... I think PTA is capable of great things as is Scott as is Speilberg BUT EVERYONE falls down every now and then cause no one has complete control over everything all the time. Even Kubrick couldn't control hos own death... So until God comes down from heaven (Dolphin you there...?) and directs a film himself we can't say this guy here RULES and would never mess up and your guy sucks cause your guy will always make a bad film. By the way Dances with Wolves an the English Patient BLEW!!! I liked the Postman better to be honest and I liked Strange Days better too... As far as Speilberg come on you talk about Schindlers list but don't mention the genius of Lost World and the mangled Jurassic Park??? Silence of the Lambs was a much better adaption of a book. Helen Kellar could have mad ea more faithful adaption of JP then Speilberg... Bladerunner and Alien had problems but they were acheievements. You can bash Conquest but once again everyone has to make concessions and not every film can be blamed on one man.
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the michael keaton as batman analogy is perfect. sandler is most definitely a clown, but perhaps pta can extract something from him. and to castor777 and mr ant, you guys are wasting your time with mali. he's nothing more than a spolied, mtv watching suburbanite who spends all of his hard earned allowance on those little black and white ads at the back of film mags that advertise "learn filmmaking in just six weeks", and who's complete inability to formulate an original idea or thought for himself clearly accounts for his catagorical dismissal of any opinion that differs from his own insulting and entirely ineloquent rantings and ravings, as well as his poor spelling and punctuation. he's just a kid guys--don't take him too seriously and he'll get bored and go away, like all kids eventually do.
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My favorite movie and still I'm concerned best movie of the last decade is Magnolia. If a director can trully break away from mainstream so much as to release a high budget interquite movie that actually can change a person while being released at a multi-plex near you, you have to think maybe he knows a little about making movies. If you, like I sat through Magnolia more than once each time seeing it for the first time through different eyes than you wouldn't be questioning PTA.
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Mali, you're an idiot.
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Two guys who are the BEST at what they do combining forces to create something different for us...Sounds very, very interesting...
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How about if Ellroy adapated Underworld, and PTA directed. All of you who say he's just a rich boy, can go screw.
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How about if Ellroy adapated Underworld, and PTA directed. All of you who say he's just a rich boy, can go screw.
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I hope this movie is better tahn his boring website.
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This has to be the worst piece of shit I've sat through in many a year. What a pile of pretensious tripe. That's 3 hours of my life I'm not getting back. PT Anderson: Suck-aas chain-smoking hack.
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Nah, it was just 3 hours of your life you woulda wasted of just sitting on your ass doing nothing. Sorry you didn't like the film but it's cool you happen to know about PTA and all. You know, him not being in any of his films or making too many guest appearances on talk shows; but you just happen to know he's a chain smoker and everything. Yeah, sounds like you really liked that documentary on Magnolia to me. Hypocrit! Hypocrit! We go ourselves a hypoctrit here!!
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To each his own, I guess. Magnolia was my favorite film that year, hands down.
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You guys are all right about that Mali guy. I heard he just recently learned the English language from Eminem records!
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hack [hackney] - Writer or artist who turns out low grade work in quantity for money.
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Yeah, Paul Thomas Anderson is a hack since he did the pool sequence in Boogie Nights as it was done before by Mikheil Katozishvili, right? So he's a hack, is he? I guess Orson Welles is a hack because he ripped off D.W. Griffith's famous rolling shot in Birth of a Nation when he did a similar shot in Citizen Kane, right? So he's a hack eh? I guess Mel Gibson is a hack for using the same closing door shot in Braveheart as did Francis Ford Coppola did in The Godfather, right? So he's a rip off too you believe? I guess Martin Scorsese is a hack for using the same type of stedicam shot during the date scene of GoodFellas since F.W. Marnau did it before in The Last Laugh, right? So Scorsese has no talent either, is that so? I guess Darren Aronofsky is a hack since he used Jennifer Connely in a shot on the pier in Requiem for a Dream as did Alex Proyas in Dark City, right? So I guess he's not original either, is this true? Do I even need to go on? Think before you open your mouth and call someone a hack you fucking moron.
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I can't believe the people walking around waiting for their chance to jerk Anderson off. Did you people see Magnolia? 3+ hours to tell me that life is random? You gotta be fucking joking. Boogie Nights was good, but if he is allowed free reign to stand back and spew his shit like he did in Magnolia, the meerly annoying Sandler will become the intolerable. Give it a rest -- the guy is a semi-talented indie maker who has been allowed to take himself way too seriously!
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Dec 12, 2000 6:17:30 PM CST
PTA kicks ass, you morons. This is for all you stupid shits who
by kickassgolferha
For those who thought that they wasted there time with Magnolia, then tell me what movie did you not waste your time with. Was it "Jawbreaker," sorry the only shit '99 movie that came to mind. I mean, what the hell do you want from a movie that "Magnolia", supposedly didn't give. Great writing, excellent directing, brilliant acting, or how about a damn cool screenplay that I see a lot of you seemed to not understand. Stupid people shouldn't breed, those who don't like PTA, fall into that category. If you didn't like "Boogie Nights" or "Hard Eight" as well, then you're critical, but to bash their brilliant writer/director because you didn't like the tremendously well-done films by PTA, then you're ignorant with a dash of retard syndrome. PTA is a filmmaker who is leading the way in film making today, all others should observe. If you don't like it, then see you in the past, PTA is the future and the cinema is forever better for it.
P.S. Sandler is a hot celebrity, or at least one who has a movie coming out each year. PTA is smart in casting him. Sandler seems to have some great acting in him, he just needs a serious mentor to lead him into it, like PTA. This movie has me stewing in a pot of excitement and anxiousness. It's gonna fuckin rule! -
This is one of the weirdest Talkbacks I've seen here. Definitely some freaky shit goin' on. But. I do have a comment or two. 1. To be on topic: What the hell? Sandler could do a lot worse, and PT could do a lot worse (yes, I have not enjoyed any of Sandler's films, finding his humor puerile, but you never know what's hiding under that facade--I saw potential from the beginning). 2. Leaping wildly off-topic, like (almost) everyone else: The same year that Boogie Nights (not Knights, as some of you seem to think) came out, there was a little film called Traveler, starring Bill Paxton and a former rap star named... Mark Wahlberg. And you know what? It was pretty good. Granted, not great, but fine performances, and frankly, I enjoyed it much more than Boogie Nights, which seemed rather... overwrought to me. 3. PLEASE can we not insult each other for having differing opinions. Christ, but these talkbacks are filled with that nonsense. Let's DISCUSS, not yell at each other. Yes, I think Mali is crazy, but will I call him an asshole? No. I think he's wrong on many bases, but I needn't stoop to name calling. (R. Scott is a fine, very fine, visual artist. Many of his films fail on a story level, but his shots are great, and his legacy is assured by Alien and Blade Runner alone. Stop scoffing, Mali. Even if you think they're shit, lots of other people love them, and as one poster pointed out, they have informed our filmic imaginations for decades. Before Blade Runner: no, or very very few, mainstream sf films were so damned bleak. And the production design is stunning. Oops. Now you're gonna tell me that he had nothing to do with production design. Please don't. This will only display ignorance of filmmaking.) 4. I don't like PTA's attitude, and I found Boogie Nights simply filled with film school trickery. Yes, very cool. The man definitely has a facility with the tricks of the trade. But I didn't always find them purposeful (the tricks, I mean). Magnolia doesn't interest me, even though I like (read: respect) many of its actors. You may say, why do I care about his attitude? Well, pretention doesn't sit well with me. Yes, he's talented, but puh-leez, only Orson Welles was that arrogant that young (and for better reason, if you ask me, but maybe that's unfair--it's a different world). For me, PTA's first film, Hard Eight, is the one. Great use of shadow, nice camera work, fine performances (Gwyneth Paltrow as a... hooker!). Anyway, I still think it's harsh to call him a hack. He's talented enough, just that I've not seen that talent put to use in a way that was to me interesting. 5. (I think I'm up to 5.) RE sentimentality. To me, if you can say a film has sentimentality, then I say the filmmaker(s) is (are) failing. Emotion is what we want. Genuine feeling. Sentiment, perhaps, but not sentimentality. Think about it. Don't yell at me for quibbling. Don't start defending your favorite tearjerker. Just go home and think about what moves you. Magnolia may have real emotion; I don't know and may never find out (and yes, I may be shorting myself by not seeing it). But please consider, it's not sentimentality we want, I hope, but real true feeling. To be moved. And with that, I will move myself on outta here. --kyle
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