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Published on Wednesday, December 6, 2000 - 6:45pm |
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More on BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER
Hey folks, Harry here and it seems Bruce Timm has finally surfaced to chime in on the whole BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER thing. And there is a tone to his quotes in this piece that FANDOM.COM has put together that just seems this side of controlled anger and with a slightly defeatist attitude. From the sound of it, Timm was involved in the entire process... all the way through. The cuts were made to appease the UNDER 5 YEARS OLD DEMOGRAPHIC!
"For six year olds and older, they probably could understand it," admits Timm. "But for fives and younger, it was probably a bit too much. We had to go back in, edit it and redo some of the animation."
Ok, first off... 5 year olds' parents should ALWAYS preview the material they are going to show their kids. A simple warning... like on toys... RECOMMENDED FOR AGES 6 & UP.... would've sufficed it looks like. Meanwhile Steve Fritz at FANDOM.Com delivers what has to be the most ridiculous comment on all of this I have seen yet:
"Only if you never want a kid of six and under to ever see the final product. To do it would be the equivalent of seeing Mickey Mouse do porn. We adults might get our jollies off of it, but you better believe Disney will come down on the perpetrators like a ton of bricks." --STEVE FRITZ
This is nothing at all like Mickey Mouse doing porn.... this is the equivalent of seeing TWO-GUN MICKEY... a 1934 Mickey Mouse cartoon where Mickey Mouse is a gunslinger that shoot Peg Leg Pete and drinks beer. NOW... I find it freaking amazing that a 1934 period 5 year old could handle a cartoon character with a gun and in addition... BOOZE... and today our children can't. After all... how many little kids were shooting up their schools in 1934... where the most popular freakin form of entertainment was the B-WESTERN which was exclusively gun slinging and killing. OOOOOHHHH Our Grandparents are all a bunch of degenerates because of these Cartoons. GET REAL!!!
This is UTTER INSANITY! PORN? What sort of frickin spin is that? I happen to of been a child with a WALLY WOOD poster on my wall beginning at the age of 2 that had all the Disney characters in soft core orgy. As a small child it was hung up high on my wall... and I just thought of it as a cool gathering of characters. When I hit about 9 I realized that Pinnochio's nose was going under Cinderella's dress and that for some reason all the dwarves were lined up behind Snow White... who's legs were spread. I giggled when I looked at it. ONLY NOW as an adult do I look at it and REALLY understand what all was going on there. VIOLENCE and SEX in abstract forms like CARTOONS do not scar. What scars is your mother being slugged by your father...
By cutting what all they've cut.. they've actually DAMAGED THE MORALS of the story. Now the JOKER isn't all that bad. Now, the child doesn't make the right decision. Now evil isn't that unappealing and the punishment ain't so bad. By lightening up the material... they have washed away the messages that were intended. MESSAGES that should get into a 5 year old's head. PINNOCHIO is more inappropriate and violent than RETURN OF THE JOKER was. SNOW WHITE is more violent! PETER PAN is more violent. Disney has a long long history of rather strong scenes that are the exclamation points in a young mind. The moments where you cover your eyes... Where you hug mom or dad. NOW IT IS A PASSIVE PIECE OF PABULUM.
This is so not right. Meanwhile, Congrats to Bruce Timm... looks like his JUSTICE LEAGUE series is getting off the ground with the classic team of characters. CLICK HERE TO READ MORE ON JLA and BATMAN BEYOND!!!
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Reader Talkback
Whatever... by Sakla | Dec 6th, 2000 05:50:21 PM | CuteMX and Batman by James_O'Nasty | Dec 6th, 2000 06:09:18 PM | why all this talk of Disney... by JShrubbery | Dec 6th, 2000 07:21:44 PM | Get the Uncut!! by Mr.Clark | Dec 6th, 2000 07:36:00 PM | Damn it. by Brikar99 | Dec 6th, 2000 07:47:28 PM | .AVI files by | Dec 6th, 2000 07:58:52 PM | Steve Fritz... by Mattman | Dec 6th, 2000 08:01:30 PM | What is Steve Fritz smoking? by vroom socko | Dec 6th, 2000 08:24:03 PM | CUTEMX rulez! Geeks unite! by Tall_Boy | Dec 6th, 2000 09:00:44 PM | Fritz is a Freakin Idiot by Fantom-Lord | Dec 6th, 2000 09:19:11 PM | the irony of Jean McCurdy by MGTHEDJ | Dec 6th, 2000 09:48:00 PM | Star Wars SUX by chicken | Dec 6th, 2000 09:57:40 PM | Fritz is exaggerating quite a
bit... by Sorcerer | Dec 6th, 2000 10:38:58 PM | ...and that is supposed to be
a fan site? by zooty | Dec 6th, 2000 10:54:15 PM | X-Men: Evolution pussy shit by Wicked Raygun | Dec 6th, 2000 10:56:38 PM | Steve Fritz Is A Jackass! by Cowblaster | Dec 7th, 2000 12:23:03 AM | 76 minute BB by daplummer | Dec 7th, 2000 12:41:18 AM | people who think it should be
edited by sokitome | Dec 7th, 2000 12:56:59 AM | I just thought of a
revolutionary idea that would
solve all our by fladnaG | Dec 7th, 2000 01:06:26 AM | And one more thing by fladnaG | Dec 7th, 2000 01:13:10 AM | Shit by Nick15 | Dec 7th, 2000 02:40:47 AM | How About This by Nick15 | Dec 7th, 2000 02:48:14 AM | Various Ramblings... by Dlhstar | Dec 7th, 2000 04:41:55 AM | What kind of an interview???? by Reignofjerm | Dec 7th, 2000 06:41:52 AM | ReignofJerm, I second that... by Fate | Dec 7th, 2000 09:55:39 AM | It's not that bad.... by Hingst | Dec 7th, 2000 11:21:50 AM | Thanks Harry for laying down
the stuff as it should be! We
reall by candyman_boo | Dec 7th, 2000 12:29:02 PM | If you need a copy... by Alternity_Orange | Dec 7th, 2000 02:33:38 PM | Much non-BB:RotJ grousing is
contained herein. . . by DarkHawke | Dec 7th, 2000 02:50:39 PM | Whoa whoa WHOA, fellas! Try
not to tell any
"BB:R.O.T.Joker" sp by Miracleman | Dec 7th, 2000 03:17:47 PM | finding the film on hotlinehq by aniscully | Dec 7th, 2000 04:17:36 PM | A Sad Day... by Lupin the Third | Dec 7th, 2000 04:18:05 PM | IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY! Angry
letter from angry fan. by Coturno | Dec 7th, 2000 04:22:47 PM | BB:TROTJ VCD by ereiamjh | Dec 7th, 2000 04:32:56 PM | Batman Beyond Pilot by ereiamjh | Dec 7th, 2000 04:35:03 PM | Funny Thing by greercd | Dec 7th, 2000 06:01:20 PM | Blah by Lethargic | Dec 7th, 2000 06:53:54 PM | whoa, HARRY_is_OBESE brought
up an amazingly good point
(spoiler by Tall_Boy | Dec 8th, 2000 02:48:42 AM | What Would Batman Do? by Enemy_Ace | Dec 8th, 2000 06:53:15 AM | Uncut screener copies for
sale! by Aunty-WB | Dec 8th, 2000 01:50:08 PM | I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT(a.k.a.
the uncut BB:ROTJ), AND THOSE
RESPO by XTheCrovvX | Dec 8th, 2000 02:23:06 PM | Cartoon Network by TheOneCalledBen | Dec 8th, 2000 06:15:29 PM | Hey! I've Got A Question For
Those Of You Who Have Already
Seen by Cowblaster | Dec 9th, 2000 03:51:01 AM | It's not like Mickey doing p by X-Girls | Dec 9th, 2000 05:39:47 PM | responsibility by X-Girls | Dec 9th, 2000 06:36:58 PM | Kids can't take it?!? by Wicked Raygun | Dec 9th, 2000 07:53:51 PM | I got the movie uncut and it's
AMAZING! (spoiler free) by Agent23 | Dec 10th, 2000 02:45:15 AM | Why no theatrical release? by Agent23 | Dec 10th, 2000 03:01:32 AM | The process of a studio backed
animated project. by Agent23 | Dec 10th, 2000 03:27:17 AM | WB PR rep Josh Sabarra is a
liar! by Agent23 | Dec 10th, 2000 03:56:30 AM | Mark Hamill+Return of the
Joker= Emmy Award nomination by Octagon Fess | Dec 10th, 2000 08:59:48 AM | YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY PISSES ME
OFF? ITS THE FACT THAT PARENTS
WO by white pony | Dec 10th, 2000 02:09:51 PM | I'm buying the pirated
version,screw you WB by Sci-Fanatic | Dec 10th, 2000 05:29:53 PM | The uncut version is genius. by Edison | Dec 10th, 2000 06:21:35 PM | Aunty-WB by greercd | Dec 10th, 2000 06:23:43 PM | I Agree With WickedRaygun by CapnCrunch | Dec 10th, 2000 09:40:10 PM | Beat a dead horse, but the
DVD?? by ereiamjh | Dec 11th, 2000 10:55:10 AM | transformers: more than
children's eyes should meet
????? by O.G. One-Kennobi | Dec 11th, 2000 02:51:22 PM | Final Word? by zeusnoose | Dec 11th, 2000 08:59:52 PM | As For Those Deleted Scenes On
The DVD. . . by Cowblaster | Dec 12th, 2000 12:18:47 AM | BB:ROTJ cuts!? by Ferretbk | Dec 12th, 2000 05:44:00 PM | Just watched it...VHS version by zeusnoose | Dec 12th, 2000 08:17:05 PM | Crap by Reignofjerm | Dec 12th, 2000 08:37:34 PM | If you want ROTJ uncut !!! by nightwing_38116 | Dec 12th, 2000 11:07:53 PM | SIGH... by Grimjack99 | Dec 12th, 2000 11:46:02 PM | my god people are cretins... by Westrum | Dec 13th, 2000 12:42:16 AM | the cuts really sucked
because...(spoilers? at this
date?) by The Killer-Goat | Dec 13th, 2000 09:59:51 AM | WARNING: DO NOT BUY FROM
"AUNTY" by Mozer | Dec 13th, 2000 04:27:38 PM | Harry, you're an idiot by JohnnyD518 | Dec 13th, 2000 04:51:40 PM | Mozer (TOM BRENNAN) is a
whiner... by Aunty-WB | Dec 13th, 2000 10:43:38 PM | AUNTY AKA : MICHAEL REESE IS
AN IDIOT! by Mozer | Dec 13th, 2000 11:34:12 PM | THE END by Aunty-WB | Dec 14th, 2000 12:08:15 PM | Tom Brennan is a narc, a
blackmailer and (in all
probability) a by Aunty-WB | Dec 19th, 2000 11:05:45 AM | MICHAEL REESE is a scam
artist, a hillbilly and a
LIAR!r! by Mozer | Dec 19th, 2000 05:33:05 PM | Uncut versions by Bataar | Dec 22nd, 2000 02:13:45 AM | Fuck these folks selling
tapes, do this by mad maximus | Jan 2nd, 2001 09:10:46 AM | What a bunch of baby-Queers,
crying.... by MexiFry | Jan 10th, 2001 02:22:48 AM |
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