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Jada confirmed in MATRIX 2
Hey folks, Harry here with a quick tidbit from Josh and MovieHeadlines.Net about Jada Pinkett Smith confirming her role in MATRIX 2 which began hitting the net back around early October. Also, check out Josh's look at the MINORITY REPORT script below... pretty nifty sounding
Harry,
Don't ask me why I was watching Oprah yesterday, it's a long story. Anyhow,
she had a live interview with Jada Pinkett Smith who briefly confirmed and
mentioned her role in Matrix 2. Nothing much given out, but she did mention
filming starts in two months and she was going to kick some butt. They
talked about how hard it was looking good for the movie, especially with her
child being just three months old.
If you use it on the site, would appreciate the plug for MovieHeadlines.
Josh
PS: Also posted my script review of Minority Report (awesome!) if you're
interested, too:
CLICK HERE
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rrrrow! what a fox!
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Forget Jada whatever, I want to see Oprah do some Matrix action. Oh wait, you'll need way too many cameras.
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jada doing kung fu! double rrrow!
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Hell, anything's better than taking up space with a name change for Fu Manchu...
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Why no word yet about James Franco being confirmed as Harry Osborn yet?
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Jada Pinkett Smith!?? Man, what about the martial artist guy?
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While I was pretty sure Jada was going to land a role, I secretly hoped they would find an unknown. Putting headliners like Jada "Stink it" Smith and Jet Li in this movie is a big mistake, and I know who's fat ass is behind it. No, not Harry, but Joel Silver. He fucking overdoes everything. "Hey, wires looked cool in the Matrix, so lets use the same effect about 50 times in Romeo must Die!" Romeo would have been a much better movie without the distracting, glaringly obvious wires. The matrix pulled it off, because in the first 5 minutes in the movie, when Trinity jumps up and kicks the guy in the head, everyone was like "Holy Shit!". Now, everyone will be expecting it, and it will fall short (IF they overdo it). I loved the Matrix, LOVED IT, and am praying that these types of casting decisions are not signs of things to come. I am just really not sure how they can make a second and third installment that are even close to the first. I may be "Phantom Menace expectations syndrome" again!
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Shit first they don't ask her to play Storm and now this? And I thought the Warchowski Brothers knew their shit. Why won't Hollywood cast her in better film projects than "Music of the Heart" "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" and "Vampire in Brooklyn"?
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Drath and manOwar are dead right! I cannot believe Jada "WOO" Pinket is going to be in THE MATRIX. The movie screams for Angela Basset!!! I'll break it down for you guys...the assholes in "Hollow - wood" feel any babe over 36 is a dinosaur. Jada is just eye candy. Let's be fucking serious...a love scene between here and Fishburne will look like child molestation!!! They may as well cast Will (no talent) Smith as AGENT Smith! Fuck......sorry for the ranting and raving ... team...
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Hahahahaha.....!
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Nov 30, 2000 6:44:23 PM CST
Who cares? Jada will not detract nor add anything to the film. S
by docsisx
Jada never plays a significant character in any of her films. She is just there. Therefore, this news means jack.
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The reason Angela basset didn't get the part is because that fuckin' half-a-shit Joel Silver. remember folks, this is the fat
fucker behind the casting of Cindy
crawford and that damn talentless
pretty boy William Baldwin in that crap Fair Games. Word was the only reason the movie got made because he thought Cindy and William looked FUCKIN' GOOD TOGETHER!!!!!!! -
I'm thrilled to hear one of the least talented hack crap suckfest actresses of the past generation just got tied to the Matrix movies. How can this movie be successful with someone with virtually not talent at all in one of the major roles? I mean, the first one was good because of solid actors like Lawrence Fishburne, Carrie Anne Moss, and Keanu...oh, wait, never mind. I guess the movie can survive Woo after all.
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Not exactly "cool" news, AICN. I do not really know what people see in Jada Pinkett. I guess the producers think that Jada's name on the marquee will put more butts in the seats. They should get a better actress, even if it be your ubiquitous blond with blue eyes. Ain't nothin' wrong with that.
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Jada Pinkett Smith is a good pick for this role. I think that she will fit in well with the existing cast, while I secretly revolt at the thought of her slobbering all over Larry Fishburne when it should be me.
Anyway, she is a terrific actress, even though she hasn't really been in any super, giant blockbusters like her husband. This role, while not necessarily a great opportunity to showcase her acting skills, will get her some major exposure.
And of course if this fails and she falls flat on her butt, she can always come live with me. -
Nov 30, 2000 10:45:12 PM CST
with Will being buff and Jada having to shape up for the Matrix,
by tall_boy
erm, I guess they would do that anyway. . .
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C.G.
Did it ever occur to you that I mentioned Jada as a possible love interest based on reading some of the same early script info everyone else has seen on this site and others (the same info that specifically identified Basset as a poss love interest for Morpheus)? Did that cross your mind or were you just interested in making your daily assanine statement to yours truly?
Slowly explain to me how I'm a racist based on what I typed...when you get done spouting your rhetoric on black relationships in the media factor in one last point ....I'm African- American. That does not mean I'm incapable of prejudice, racism or just plain old cruelty...it just means I have no FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOUR TRYING TO PROVE BY SPOUTING OF BULLSHIT THAT I WOULD PAY YOU TO SAY TO MY FACE!
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Don't know what some of you guys problem with Jada is, but her casting is fine with me. Now I'll be honest I would have prefered Bassat in this role with Nia Long as the runner up,but we got Jada and you guys should stop bitchin and ragging on her.Jada is 29 so I do agree that the actress should be closer to Fishburne's age,and it's sad that hollywood feels that when an actress is over a certain age she's considered old.Did anyone hear that the cosmitics company that Cindy Crawford modeled for dumped her because they felt she was to old? I had no idea she was 34,damn she looks good.This is the type of screwed up stuff that the entertainment industry pulls and sticks us with 20 year old actors and we have to endure their inexperiance because hollywood feels that youth is in.
Poor Angela Bassat she hasn't graced the big screen in a while.
On the bright side Jada has been cast!!!!!
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I'm not familiar with Jada Pinkett Smith's work, but even on the purel aesthetic level, Angela Basset looks like a more appropriate gal to have cast in this movie. If the rumors about the Niobe character being romantically linked to Morpheus are ture, then Basset just looks more suited and age appropriate for the role. It'd be pretty funny (in a wierd way) if Morpheus and Niobe had a sort of Ike and Tina relationship as seen in the previous Basset/Fishburne collaboration "What's Love Got to do With it?" Kung-fu fights between Ike and Tina. In bad taste? Yes. But funny in some odd, self-referential, cinematic way? Probably. Hope Jada does an okay job, though. Take care, all
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Some of the actors held in the highest esteem are African. Sam Jackson has got to be number 1 there ain't no one cooler then the man. Laurance Fishburne has always been a favourite and the Matrix helped to highten the hype further on him. Angela Bassett, probably one of the most beautiful actresses working in film today and it is a tradegy that she didn't get cast in this film as she can obviously handle the physical side after seeing her bodyguard work in Strange days. If I had a choice for this role in The Matrix it would have to be Lisa Bonet, I realise that she ain't the best actress in the world but since the Cosby days that girl has been my number 1 on the list even Salma's intro in desperado wasn't a serious enough challenge also another unsuccesful attempt at the numebr 1 place was Diaz's intro in The Mask. Anyway, point is I think the fan boy geek brigade are some of the least narrow minded you can get. I mean we got Blade for Christ sake! And HooperX!
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...instantly assuming that Jada Pinkett Smith is to be Morpheus' love interest shows some racist tendencies. It could just so happen that she will play a "fred mind" giving Trinity some competition (Yes, please, he might be "The One", but he's still only human) Also take out Jet Li and replace him with Jackie Chan and let him work out his fighting scenes for himself without wire fu. Now that would've been something!!! Apart from Zion, we have to see "Robotcentre", or whatever, and a lot of the fields. Lets have a major rescue operation of some human cabbabage with "squids" and shit fighting and killing. Oh and a whole crowd of "agents" fighting Neo and all his encreasingly "freed minds". Maybe this sequel won't suck! (I still think that they should have left it at one movie, though!)
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that she might be playing Morphious's daughter, not love intrest?
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I'm afraid I have to echo many of the above opinions on this one. What I wouldn't give to trade Vampire in Brooklyn amd SuperNova for having Ms. Angela in both X-Men and Matrix. Strange Days was all it took to convince me that she was a bad-ass in waiting. Jada will not have believable chemistry with Fishburne, while Angela's would have been dynamite. Which brings me to a second point. I agree with others that Jada might not be Fishburne's love interest, or at least I hope not. In the brave new world the Matrix depicts, why have such obvious color coding?
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As Aaron Stack already explained above, the presence of a black love interest for Morpheus in THE MATRIX II was confirmed before Pinkett Smith was even cast. So we're not being racist when we assume Pinkett Smith will play Laurence Fishburne's girl; we're just remembering what we've read ...
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I'm the first to say when something stinks of biggotry like that movie know one should have seen Bagger Vance but even I read that Fish and Pinkett are supposed to hook up. Now what I have a problem with are the assholes calling her a crackhead and implying that she and her punk ass husband make hot monkey love. But fug it I realized long ago that pea-brained, cowardly, biggots hate me 'cause they ain't me!
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Think about it, what with Will shaping up for Ali and Jada getting the required Kung Fu training schedule for Matrix 2, man, I wouldn't want to be the cop who had to break up a domestic between those two!
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... angela bassett would have the role instead of jada (nothing against jada, i think she's talented and cute). i would also say that while we're talking about things we have no control over, let's resurrect BRANDON LEE in place of keanu. who wouldn't have wished for that? instead we'll all go watch it and hope for the best.
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hey it just occurred to me... maybe FISH and BASS (ha!) took their IKE and TINA roles too personal. Maybe it's that existential fallacy prediciment (according to lee strasberg) that method actors fall into. and for all of the racial comments, it's to be expected. i recall a lot of negative comments about FISH just before the first MATRIX came out. but after the film went through the roof... well let's just say even bigots like giving blow jobs. and you know who you are out there.
to all the sensible people out there? l8r. to the bigots?... l8r 4u
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What have we learned from the original movie? ok here goes
1)You Could be KEANU REEVES and that STILL wouldnt affect the outcome/coolness factor of the movie!.. This in response to thoe who say Miss Smith is talentless.
2)The movie uses special effects as a tool and , and that tool is being redefined every day.. the rumor of sequences where actors move at the speed of light is a prime example.. How does this relate to the flim?.. If they can make us believe in bullet time im sure there will be no problem hiding the baby thats on the way :)
3) If they can make A Kick Ass Kung Fu action Virtual Reality thrill action Fun Ride Movie, after making A Debut film About Lesbians, Stolen money and white paint(which i thought rocked!).. Im willing to wait and see.. Should be VERY COOL
4) These are the Men who made you Believe that Keanu Reeves COULD ACT! Im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
-Brothersleep
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This is the worst news I've heard in...ever! The Matrix franchise had huge promise, and even a whiff of Pinket's crawling no-talent, only-famous-because-I-married-a-star will not on Will Smith's ass that she is presence in Matrix 2 is going to stink up the whole movie. Hell, I'd rather see even John Travolta play Mobeus' wife than Pinket.
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In an ideal world, the assumption
that two characters were each
others' love interests solely based on race would be
racist. But we're talking about
the movies. To assume that
blacks are more likely to be
romantically linked with blacks in the movies
is not racist; it simply reflects
awareness of the fact that
Hollywood still shies away from
interracial romances. The
problem is with Hollywood, not
with Talkback. (And I am well
aware that there are exceptions,
so don't waste your time listing
them. I'm talking about a trend,
not a rule.) -
Now, Jada Pinkett was annoying as Hell in her days as an MTV veejay. But let us remember the terrific work she did in the Hughes Brothers now classic "Menace II Society" which I feel was quite superior to that other gangsta classic "Boyz n the Hood." She was good in something once so she can be good in this. That point aside, here are my major predictions about what's gonna happen in the next two films.
Prediction: Trinity will die in the secoond act climax of film two. I would've said Morpheus would be the one to bite the bullett, but the Wachowskis will probably want to break cliches and it's a cliche to kill off the mentor character [See Alec Guinness, Anthony Hopkins (Zorro) or Kris Kristofferson (Blade) to highlight recent examples]Besides, Morpheus' dying would be a little too obvious given the oracle's prediction. Also, the Wachowskis were huge fans of Matt Wagner's comic book series, Mage, which had a very similar plot twist and had a story that, in terms of archetypes, had a conflict and characters similar to those in the Matrix, although it had no Cyberpunk stuff and was set in modern times.
Second Prediction: We've heard that Hugo Weaving will be returning. Here's why: Neo will adopt Agent Smith's (Hugo Weaving) appearance in order to further explore the Matrix. We saw Neo 'absorb' agent Smith. It's possible that another Sentient Program will adopt Smith's appearance when entering the Matrix (since the original Smith is presumably dead; as we have no grounds to assume that the same rules don't apply to the Agents that apply to humans regarding death in the Matrix). I think the notion of Neo using Smith as an alternate 'residual self image,' is more interesting and likely.
Third Prediction: Neo will create some sort of 'filtration software' that allows normal humans to exhibit the same type of Matrix abilities that he possesses. The software would be a buffer that allows the user to enter the Matrix without being fully subject to its reality inducing influence over the mind. It will also provide the opportunity for some really killer battles between the humans and the Agents.
Fourth Prediction: The final, major "what you thought was true from the beginning isn't," will run along these lines: The second film will most likely introduce the concept of a core system that guides the Sentient robots (like Skynet in the Terminator.) In the final act of the third film we will discover that Neo is not human at all but a human representation of this core program sent into the Matrix for two reasons 1. to infiltrate and destroy Zion once and for all 2. to gain a complete understanding of the Sentient's creators. The series will end, not with the destruction of the Sentient's, but with Neo bringing about peace between the two species and leading them both into a world where harmony, cohabitation and forgiveness are possible. After all, the story of the Matrix seems pretty much modeled after the whole biblical notion of Armageddon and that would be a more meaningful and spiritual ending. (Regarding the Biblical idea: a character name "holy" Trinity. A savior prophesized to return; sound familiar?)
Regarding this final twist and why it was heavily forshadowed in the first film: Why did the Sentient's allow Neo out of the Matrix in the first place? They knew Morpheus' crew's every move from Cypher (Joe Pantollianno). They knew they'd attempt to pick up Neo. We EVEN SEE A FUCKING SENTIENT ROBOT LET HIM OUT OF HIS TUBE!!! We assume it's under the control of Morpheus and crew but the say nothing about having captured any Sentients. The only thing they do when they encounter them, in or out of the Matrix, is run like Hell. The Sentients would have known Neo's location and would have been on the spot with a load of Drones to capture the Nebudcanezar, capture Morpheus in person, and grab his codes. Unless this is just a major plot hole, why did the Sentients let him out? Hope to hear some responses!
-Henry Fool
(aka John Charles Brittenham jr.
jaybrittenham@cs.com/ don't use my 'click on' e-mail as its no longer used by me but rather my folks!) -
The creature known as Jada Pinkett will single handedly drown this promiseing franchise in piles of pure poop. Hiring this woman to screw Matrix II has got to be akin to bringing Prinze Jr. into the fart fold known as Scooby Doo. While they're at it, bring in Ahmed Jar-Jar Best to be her digital love Gungan and we'll have another fabulous sequel shit to call our own! Maybe they could get Travolta involved with Matrix III and put a whole new spin on the project, right after they sign David Hasselhoff to play the evil overlord of the world, complete with him singing the theme song. Sounds Pretty Crappy eh?
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Casting Jada in Matrix 2 can't be that terrible. I mean come on let's think about it, Cowboy Curtis from Pee-Wee's Playhouse has a major role in it so why can't she? Give her a chance. Besides with "What's Love ..." the Ike/Tina story, Bassett may bring too many bad jokes to the movie.
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the character Jada is said to be playing is Niobi, who used to be called Niobe who, according to character descriptions that made their way onto the net back in the summer before Jada was mentioned at all, would be another ship captain who'd been involved romantically with Morpheus. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't think it's racist to read all that and assume that Jada is going to play Morpheus's girlfriend(or ex-girlfriend). I still would prefer seeing Angela Bassett because Hollywood gives her shit movies far beneath her talent. Supernova was a sin. And if a merely adequate actress like Carrie Anne-Moss can get a major career boost by the Matrix, then someone like Bassett should finally get the recognition she hasn't been getting. Or maybe I'm assuming too much. I mean, Lawrence Fishbourne doesn't seem to be getting as much work as he should be, while Keanu is making movies left and right. Sigh. But don't let it be said that I don't like Jada. I remember thinking she'd be great in a good action movie when I saw her in the hilarious "Tales from the Cryptt: Demon Knight" movie. Of course, I have a feeling that Niobi will share the tragic story of her mythological namesake. Maybe the machines will force from her those codes to Zion that they wanted to get from Morpheus in the first film--Tank DID say that all ship captains had the codes. I'd hate it if she's intended just to be eye candy, or as Trinity's competition. I wouldn't be surprised if she's used that way either, since they cast a younger actress where a more mature female might have been more appropriate. This IS an action movie made by guys after all.
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Just because what you see fit as being acceptable between ages does not mean it'll be the same for everybody else.
I'm sure when you "guys" are in your 40's, you'll want some young ass, so don't even play like you're too cool for that crap.
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Keep up the speculation work regarding THE MATRIX II and III; you're bringing up interesting points, far-fetched though some of them may sound. Keep sharing them with us ...
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Scary, the way those SW-obsessed posters using 'Darth' in their handles have got to me ...
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I think that Lucy Lawless (Xena: Warrior Princess) would be a good choice to be in the Matrix sequels; she kicks serious ass. I'm not so sure about Jada Pinkett-Smith, though. I mean, I like her as an actress, but I just can't see her in a Matrix film.
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