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Hey folks, Harry here... For additional information about the cuts made to BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER click below. In the last 17 hours or so, there have been a great many additional sources contacting me about what has happened. It seems the entire blame for what has happened to BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER falls upon the lady in charge of the WB Kids network... This according to multiple sources. In addition, WB KIDS it seems is going to completely drop BATMAN BEYOND despite good ratings and critical praise. WB KIDS seems to be leaving the Warner Animation group out in the wind right now. This is why JLA is going to the Cartoon Network. While Dini hasn't been available for comment on all of this as of yet, it seems that the complications on BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER were symptoms of a larger problem. The butchered print of BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER might very well end up being the last work we see out of the Dini/Timm WB animation team. I know from previous conversations with Dini that he has a screenplay at New Line entitled MILLION DOLLAR HEROES and of course we all know he is working with Boaz and Alan Burnett on the BATMAN BEYOND live action feature film. Also, he is rumored to be developing his Jingle Belle character into a feature or television franchise, with multiple production houses vying for the property. As for Timm, development continues on his JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA animated series at the Cartoon Network. More details as they arrive. In addition it is beginning to look highly unlikely that Warner Brothers plans on releasing the uneditted BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER even in an exclusive style manner. It should be clarified though that the uncut version was never rated... and for those that have seen it... there is no way it would have received anything stronger than a PG. All of this trouble has been for NO GOOD REASON AT ALL! This is a major financial folly for Warner Brothers... seemingly shooting a goose that laid nothing but golden eggs. Here's the latest....

According to a reliable source, Batman beyond looks to be over at WB.

Here are the reasons stated:

  • The team no longer has WB's support.
  • The ROTJ fiasco.
  • Paul Dini having 'personality conflicts' with the rest of the WBA team.

    More news as it develops.

    As usual, please credit to www.Searth.net/wfnews

    You should also be made aware that the existing cut is being released UNRATED... this is in fact the butchered copy and not the original uncut film. Currently there are ILLEGAL copies being sold on ebay and through Hong Kong VCD merchants and it seems that in the newsgroups and online film trading circles the pirates are making the film available in its complete form for download. These copies are sure to be of inferior sound and visual quality... but they are uncut. I can not endorse the pursuit of this, the only true artistic vision of RETURN OF THE JOKER, because that would be wrong. So I am warning you not to seek them out. Rumors have it that ebay types are selling their copies and because of demand they are fetching over $100 a piece... over 4 times the issue price. One thing is for sure... there is certainly a demand for the alternative copy of the film. If only Warner Brothers Corporate will realize it, and understand the CHRISTMAS PROFITS THEY ARE LOSING WITH THIS FIASCO. This is a tragedy.

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    Has the world gone mad?!
    by Cooler-than-Thou
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:15:02 AM
    Here we go again
    by Lurker
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:21:33 AM
    All of a sudden...
    by Robin Goodfellow
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:23:00 AM
    Batman Beyond
    by 11569
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:40:49 AM
    The rise and fall of cartoon civilization
    by corran22
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:46:38 AM
    this allways happens!!
    by Klam Bake
    Nov 29th, 2000
    10:50:09 AM
    Beyond Depressing
    by kmart23
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:12:49 AM
    JLA
    by kmart23
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:18:09 AM
    Ive seen the original version and you can to
    by easternhan
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:30:15 AM
    Cartoon violence is just a red-herring
    by corran22
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:33:57 AM
    Reading is Fundamental
    by t-square
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:34:38 AM
    Someone out there organize an official boycott; the suits will p
    by vroom socko
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:40:35 AM
    bootlegs
    by HomegaMan
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:41:23 AM
    canadian copy cut
    by ellroy
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:50:54 AM
    How can you tell if someone is a WB exec......
    by fladnaG
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:22:05 PM
    one more thing
    by fladnaG
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:24:00 PM
    Batman Beyond (ROTJ)
    by justaj
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:48:03 PM
    I have the uncut version...
    by SonOfJorel
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:59:51 PM
    GET READY TO BE PISSED AGAIN! THE JLA CARTOON WILL BE THE FUTUR
    by superhero
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:03:20 PM
    i know where to get uncut version!!!
    by batmanbeyond69wu
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:06:32 PM
    What's wrong with this picture when WB can't even do "corporate
    by One Angry Dwarf
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:19:39 PM
    Complete silliness
    by Achilles
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:24:04 PM
    This, Oddly Enough, Doesn't Surprise Me. . . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:26:43 PM
    CANADIAN VERSION IS CUT!!! WARNING!!
    by Jarek
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:29:28 PM
    By The Way. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:32:01 PM
    Complete Summary of Uncut ROTJ
    by Lore1701D
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:46:18 PM
    WB = BS
    by B A Fett
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:48:23 PM
    It's normal for WB...Boycott it.
    by stellex
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:05:45 PM
    Protest
    by Ajy2
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:08:50 PM
    Subzero was crap...
    by Jackass
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:17:58 PM
    To the boycotters...
    by Jackass
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:22:07 PM
    DBZ animation sucks...
    by Jackass
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:25:10 PM
    WB Marketing...Additional comments
    by stellex
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:29:28 PM
    How to watch the uncut version
    by m2nal
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:30:37 PM
    CuteMX will do it!
    by MeccaLecca
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:42:08 PM
    It's all about money...
    by Jackass
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:45:02 PM
    Wasn't this edited version actually approved by Dini?
    by Archangel972
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:08:27 PM
    Got it! Thanks to these talkbacks...
    by Rayedar
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:16:25 PM
    Brilliant, WB!
    by X-Girls
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:34:38 PM
    My Divine Solution
    by Pietro_Kozlowski
    Nov 29th, 2000
    04:29:44 PM
    Say It With Me- Never Again
    by Anton_Sirius
    Nov 29th, 2000
    05:09:04 PM
    VCD
    by James Boldman
    Nov 29th, 2000
    05:47:08 PM
    i just cancelled my order in protest
    by lrmat
    Nov 29th, 2000
    06:24:02 PM
    Canadian Release on eBay
    by thebatman
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:15:43 PM
    Bruce Wayne's Stabbing Isn't The Cause Of His Limp. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:28:41 PM
    Oh, Yeah. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:32:59 PM
    Don't you guys get it yet?
    by Choda
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:38:15 PM
    Oh, well. Bootlegs are fun!
    by greercd
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:57:18 PM
    Some guy using eBay to rip us off
    by Sumodon
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:01:44 PM
    Heheh.
    by Zone Zero
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:07:50 PM
    I just watched the uncut version... SPOILERS
    by Toxic Frog
    Nov 29th, 2000
    11:24:14 PM
    AVI
    by GermanCity
    Nov 30th, 2000
    12:33:46 AM
    I've seen the unedited version. No spoilers...
    by Andy Travis
    Nov 30th, 2000
    01:49:25 AM
    Ummm NIGHTWING anyone?
    by Windtalker
    Nov 30th, 2000
    03:16:56 AM
    The cancellation of Batman Beyond...
    by Gag Halfrunt
    Nov 30th, 2000
    06:23:17 AM
    "Time has come to...PAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!"
    by XTheCrovvX
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:20:42 AM
    They are right, all right every one
    by spider-ham
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:36:24 AM

    by TallScott
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:40:47 AM
    I have the unedited version, email me if you're interested in se
    by Piwate Woberts
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:41:50 AM
    The creative process and jealousy
    by squidman
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:45:51 AM
    Boy who the heck is running the show at Time Warner
    by TallScott
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:46:44 AM
    AVI file
    by DougRamsey
    Nov 30th, 2000
    08:29:54 AM
    the late great Bill Hicks summed it up. . .
    by RenoNevada2000
    Nov 30th, 2000
    08:37:25 AM
    You don't become a WB exec by BEING SMART people!
    by Helos
    Nov 30th, 2000
    08:50:01 AM
    avi file
    by 2112r
    Nov 30th, 2000
    09:16:21 AM
    History repeats
    by Sandman,Esq.
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:02:36 AM
    Screener copies for sale!
    by Aunty-WB
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:21:31 AM
    What I want!
    by diverdan
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:23:38 AM
    the .avi files
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:28:33 AM
    avi's
    by 2112r
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:36:14 AM
    The uncut screenplay is available now, why not the film?!?!?!?!
    by Monkey_King
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:12:05 AM
    Bootlegs
    by HomegaMan
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:44:24 AM
    someone please fucking help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    by O.G. One-Kennobi
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:52:51 AM
    NOBODY BUY IT!
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Nov 30th, 2000
    12:55:29 PM
    Boycott all WB Products!
    by King Farooq
    Nov 30th, 2000
    01:42:34 PM
    Dark Victory
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    02:50:03 PM
    Jean MacCurdy's email address
    by James Boldman
    Nov 30th, 2000
    02:59:05 PM
    emailing the woman at WB
    by Zarozinia
    Nov 30th, 2000
    03:49:13 PM
    Playkin...
    by The Killer-Goat
    Nov 30th, 2000
    04:51:03 PM
    I'm glad I'm not the only one
    by supershauna
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:01:31 PM
    WB YOU HAVE LOST A CUSTOMMER!!!
    by Agent23
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:03:28 PM
    Jackass, where do you get your JLA info?
    by Drath
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:32:32 PM
    Download BBROJ UN-CUT for F R E E.. (sorry wb :)
    by TheEvilHarvey
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:33:19 PM
    There's still X-Men Evolution
    by Drath
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:38:47 PM
    silver lining?
    by dashielm
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:44:23 PM
    Hollywood is not responsible for your kids!
    by Black Horizion
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:47:21 PM
    But, then I might not be able to go get drunk,
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    06:02:41 PM
    John_McCain@McCain.senate.gov
    by TheEvilHarvey
    Nov 30th, 2000
    06:17:32 PM
    http://www.senate.gov/~mccain/
    by TheEvilHarvey
    Nov 30th, 2000
    06:19:01 PM
    Spread the Word!
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    06:35:16 PM
    Forced to disagree (sorta)
    by Man Out Of Time
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:09:11 PM
    Man out of time -
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:25:19 PM
    Man Out Of Time. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:34:27 PM
    batmanbeyond.com
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:53:32 PM
    Amazing
    by Jadeh
    Nov 30th, 2000
    08:37:16 PM
    I am the Lizard King
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    09:04:11 PM
    Dolphin4
    by greercd
    Nov 30th, 2000
    09:57:04 PM
    Uhhhh... Mr. Squidman, sir...?
    by Rufus_T_Firefly
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:01:55 PM
    Just Down Loaded from Cute MX GOD IT ROCKS
    by martin847
    Nov 30th, 2000
    10:11:54 PM
    Too Extreme For Kids, But...
    by Mattman
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:28:25 PM
    Yes, This Movie Is For Kids. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:56:17 PM
    The WB have screwed up BEYOND belief
    by Xcalibur
    Dec 1st, 2000
    12:26:42 AM
    Well there might be another silver lineing
    by TallScott
    Dec 1st, 2000
    03:37:10 AM
    go to www.PetitionOnline.com/uncutba t/
    by vroom socko
    Dec 1st, 2000
    04:32:28 AM
    Oh...my...God...sigh
    by MCVamp
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:49:07 AM
    Mr. Rufus T. Firefly, seems I need to explain ...
    by squidman
    Dec 1st, 2000
    06:59:54 AM
    One oddity about the voice talent in ROTJ...
    by Andy Travis
    Dec 1st, 2000
    07:53:38 AM
    I'm Breaking the Law!!!
    by Anarky Rulz
    Dec 1st, 2000
    09:34:28 AM
    Cowblaster, I agree
    by Mattman
    Dec 1st, 2000
    10:33:10 AM
    Um...they already are on Cartoon Network
    by James_O'Nasty
    Dec 1st, 2000
    10:50:20 AM
    Fans Don't Matter
    by Reignofjerm
    Dec 1st, 2000
    10:59:29 AM
    What should Mac users do?
    by RichardTenor
    Dec 1st, 2000
    12:32:16 PM
    SFII Underrated? Kids should not be exposed to anything?
    by Radd
    Dec 1st, 2000
    02:02:00 PM
    Wow
    by Mister Nobody
    Dec 1st, 2000
    02:32:29 PM
    DarkVictory is right ....
    by X-Girls
    Dec 1st, 2000
    02:36:57 PM
    Remember
    by Reignofjerm
    Dec 1st, 2000
    04:15:42 PM
    JLA Series, not the JLU from Batman Beyond...
    by JimJim Binks
    Dec 1st, 2000
    04:19:01 PM
    perhaps I was unclear....
    by Man Out Of Time
    Dec 1st, 2000
    06:47:23 PM
    Man Out Of Time. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Dec 1st, 2000
    07:50:10 PM
    Help with this file
    by Mr.Teacher
    Dec 1st, 2000
    10:00:03 PM
    AVI file help
    by Mr.Teacher
    Dec 1st, 2000
    10:02:22 PM
    OK, I'll cop to this....
    by greercd
    Dec 3rd, 2000
    09:50:29 PM
    Who wants a copy of Batman Beyond ROTJ, uncut and on VHS, cause
    by ApolloRockafella
    Dec 5th, 2000
    07:10:14 PM
    I HAVE IT!
    by neveragain
    Dec 6th, 2000
    01:11:01 AM
    Screener copies for sale!
    by Aunty-WB
    Dec 7th, 2000
    01:12:17 PM
    this argument reminds me a Simpsons moment
    by Woodward
    Dec 8th, 2000
    02:09:21 PM
    WARNING: DO NOT BUY ROTJ FROM "AUNTY"
    by Mozer
    Dec 13th, 2000
    04:35:26 PM

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