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A Guide To The Murder of BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER!!!

Folks, I must warn you... by reading the below... not only will you know what those bastards at Warner Brothers and specifically the 'tards at the WB have done to BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER... but you'll spoil both versions for yourself. HOWEVER, having seen BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER... I can tell you... this... I really and strongly despise the sort of blandizing that the WB forced upon this project. FOR the first time ever in a media other than comics... Bruce Timm and Paul Dini had nailed what was evil and wrong about the Joker. Why he was not to be emulated... why he was deranged and belonged in a Sanitarium. And gave children a story that defines heroism and villiany in a very clear and obvious way. This was never a story of grey-tones. NOW, if what happens to the Joker happens... WHY DO THEY COVER IT UP? WHY ARE THEY ASHAMED? WHAT DID BATMAN, BATGIRL and TIM DRAKE DO WRONG? The ENTIRE POINT of the story is altered. I hope to God that WARNER BROTHERS does the right thing and releases the alternate version.... If not to the general public, then through DC DIRECT to Comic Stores near us! And I have to tell you people... The following SUCKS!

Hey Harry,

Canada received BB: ROTJ a bit earlier, and I wa slucky enough to see an uncut version. After watching the edited version, it will leave a bad tase in you rmouth. WB went above and beyond with their edits, so far I'm counting close to 15 changes. Here's a list of edits & changes I have noticed so far, with more to come:

(originally posted at TOONZONE)

SPOILERS WARNING!!

  • Bonk is not shot, but given a lethal dose of laughing gas, and he dies off screen. Becuase of this the whole "Take the trash outside, Dee Dee" and "Are you with me?" sequence is cut.

  • The Joker is not shot, but slips in some water and is electrocuted off screen. Plus, they don't mention they buried him deep under Arkham or any of that. The dialogue is completely changed in that seqeunce.

  • Barbara says that Leslie Thompkins helped Tim Drake "regain himself" instead of "regain his sanity." (or something along those lines)

  • Also, Joker no longer slices Batman across the chest of in the leg, and any blood is digitally removed. Joker just punches Batman.

  • More than half of the "Our Family Memories" is cut out, only showing Robin tied up and struggling, and cutting the scene where Joker opens the barbeque lids, picks up the voltage tongs, and shocks the Boy.

  • Alot of dialogue is changed as well. And reference to the word "kill" is changed.

  • The opening fight seqeunce is trimmed, cutting out a second Dee-Dee kick and completely redoing that entire Batman/Dee Dee sequence.

  • The club fight is changed. The pink clown no longer punches Terry and says "I don't know why the boss wants a dreg like you outta the way, but as long as it's fun...". He just goes for his gun and says "Slag him!".

  • Bruce says "Robin defeated him." instead of "Robin did kill him".

  • Joker says "Bat-Kook" instead of "Bat-Fart".

  • Jordan Price says "Ice" instead of "kill".

  • Tim Drake says "I can still hear his scream" instead of "I can still hear the shot".

  • Joker says "...with such yutzes" instead of "...with such putzes".

    That's all I can remember off the top of my head. If y'all like I can go through it again tonight and present a more accurate and comlete list. The movie is almost completely different than the uncut. An interetsing fact, though: Everyone else's dialogue except for Harley's and Terry McGinnis's is altered somehow. But they keep in the "I'll break you in two..." line from Batman thankfully, that lin ebeing the best of the movie. Gee, it looks like they wee making more than "a couple changes".

    If you use this news, please give credit to WORLD'S FINEST with this url:

    WORLDSFINEST or TOONZONE.Net/WF

    Thanx alot!

    signed

    Dick Grayson

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    Bootlegs all around
    by Jobriga3
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:29:59 PM
    Two words...
    by Lenonn
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:38:48 PM
    Well, it's not surprising
    by MOSDEF
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:40:57 PM
    Two sides to every story...
    by Edward Nigma
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:47:39 PM
    Well, If This Isn't The End-All, Be-All Of The Word "Suck"
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 28th, 2000
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    CD-Roms you say?
    by takehim2detroit
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:53:54 PM
    They got rid of Bat-Fart?
    by Pr_Frink
    Nov 28th, 2000
    05:57:50 PM
    I already gots it!
    by Manifest@work
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:01:30 PM
    "Oh No! The Joker Slipped In A Puddle Of Water And Electrocuted
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:02:25 PM
    would help if I put my email huh?
    by Manifest@work
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:05:44 PM
    Bat Cuts Suck
    by Chaka!
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:14:36 PM
    Screw it...
    by JimJim Binks
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:16:48 PM
    What do you expect...
    by Kid Z
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:21:25 PM
    It's Hollywood's job to protect our youth!
    by mthiel
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:24:18 PM
    Catch 22
    by theprinceofspace
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:30:50 PM
    RotJ Edits: Irony (Spoilers and LONG)
    by JckNapier
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:51:14 PM
    They never did write Tim Drake right
    by Drath
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:51:19 PM
    Copies for sale
    by dry
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:57:57 PM
    Does that mean Canadian stores have the UNCUT version??!
    by Tall_Boy
    Nov 28th, 2000
    06:59:04 PM
    Relax already! It's just a cartoon!
    by Playkins
    Nov 28th, 2000
    07:04:25 PM
    Holy Bull$#!t, Batman! And a message to Playkins
    by Mr. Sartre
    Nov 28th, 2000
    07:17:30 PM
    Playkins..
    by Wesley Snipes
    Nov 28th, 2000
    07:35:44 PM
    To Playkins......
    by Praetor
    Nov 28th, 2000
    07:43:55 PM
    Whoa, whoa, whoa!
    by James_O'Nasty
    Nov 28th, 2000
    08:13:30 PM
    My Rebuttal, Mr.Sartre, Praetor (please read)
    by Playkins
    Nov 28th, 2000
    08:23:46 PM
    No More Requests!!
    by Manifest@work
    Nov 28th, 2000
    08:25:31 PM
    looking for uncut version
    by Macey
    Nov 28th, 2000
    08:39:21 PM
    An aside
    by Edward Nigma
    Nov 28th, 2000
    08:41:38 PM
    Who is behind this abomination? Is it you Lorenzo?!
    by docsisx
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:09:20 PM
    To: Playkins From: Sartre
    by Mr. Sartre
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:17:08 PM
    A perfect example of why Transformers: The Movie kicks such glo
    by LSHB
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:18:30 PM
    Thank goodness for promo tapes.
    by MajorTom
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:28:47 PM
    Why God? Why?
    by greercd
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:29:51 PM
    See, this is why I like anime.
    by Sith Lord Jesus
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:31:09 PM
    Of course not
    by Playkins
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:38:28 PM
    Tipper Gore?
    by greercd
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:44:30 PM

    by Westrum
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:45:51 PM

    by theprinceofspace
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:46:59 PM

    by greercd
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:49:05 PM
    now here i am stuck with foot firmly in mouth...
    by Westrum
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:53:41 PM
    Anybody been to eBay lately?
    by theprinceofspace
    Nov 28th, 2000
    09:54:10 PM
    I know i brought this on myself
    by Manifest@work
    Nov 28th, 2000
    10:12:16 PM
    Hmmmm
    by DarkPrinceVegita
    Nov 28th, 2000
    10:20:00 PM
    "Putz" is unacceptable? WHAT?!
    by Sorcerer
    Nov 28th, 2000
    10:42:47 PM
    Uncut Canadian versions?
    by KSisko
    Nov 28th, 2000
    10:55:20 PM
    You know the funny thing is.......
    by Wheel99
    Nov 28th, 2000
    11:09:55 PM
    Don't Run To eBay Just Yet. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Nov 28th, 2000
    11:27:38 PM
    Stupid WB!
    by bluedevilnight
    Nov 28th, 2000
    11:38:39 PM
    Yet Even More on the Subject
    by Chaka!
    Nov 28th, 2000
    11:42:43 PM
    cuts suck ugh!!
    by Varakor
    Nov 28th, 2000
    11:46:18 PM
    I won't let this happen
    by Critch Starblade
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:21:05 AM
    ROTJ bootlegs
    by ledbetter51
    Nov 29th, 2000
    12:58:26 AM
    Well, guess I won't be buying this. Or renting it. But I'm not g
    by Dave_F
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:03:05 AM
    Another reason not to let TIPPER, LIEBERMAN and there anti-Holly
    by AtomoPrime
    Nov 29th, 2000
    01:36:03 AM
    With people already starting to boycott the edited version, what
    by Archangel972
    Nov 29th, 2000
    02:26:48 AM
    CuteMX Free copies for those of us with fast download
    by JosephTDM
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:02:48 AM
    Seriously...
    by Dave_F
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:40:13 AM
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    by Silencer
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Culturejamming wins every time
    by Grundy
    Nov 29th, 2000
    04:42:49 AM
    Bootlegs
    by HomegaMan
    Nov 29th, 2000
    07:19:37 AM
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    by Dave_F
    Nov 29th, 2000
    07:56:57 AM
    Something else to consider, Grundy...
    by Dave_F
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:07:16 AM
    God damn you, Warner Brothers....
    by XTheCrovvX
    Nov 29th, 2000
    08:55:19 AM
    P.S.
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    P.P.S.
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Bootleg...
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Ethical responsibility
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    Nov 29th, 2000
    09:46:28 AM
    organized offerings of screener copies
    by cuznjean
    Nov 29th, 2000
    09:47:37 AM
    Should I post...
    by iscariot
    Nov 29th, 2000
    09:51:38 AM
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Big Question
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    One Question....
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    One Question....
    by Anarky Rulz
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    What the hell is Batman doing in ROTJ anyway?
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    WB remains spine-less jellyfish I see
    by 2GOLD
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    uncut version details!!!
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Uh, Iscariot?
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    JosephTDM
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    A retraction of my last post: I have to laugh.
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    WB Network Deserves to go under
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    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:47:43 PM
    to 'Dick Grayson'
    by X-Girls
    Nov 29th, 2000
    03:50:23 PM
    Parental Advisory Sticker
    by X-Girls
    Nov 29th, 2000
    04:03:04 PM
    Batman Beyond (ROTJ)
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    Nov 29th, 2000
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    Aaaargh!
    by Anton_Sirius
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    1st time poster
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    Nov 29th, 2000
    05:04:02 PM
    Batman Beyond: ROTJ UN-CUT!!!
    by Brinn71
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    GET OVER IT!!!
    by Playkins
    Nov 29th, 2000
    07:51:47 PM
    CuteMX fix
    by JosephTDM
    Nov 29th, 2000
    09:10:23 PM
    thank god for my unedited screener copy
    by Frank Black
    Nov 29th, 2000
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    I don't know if this is funny or sad
    by Pseudonym
    Nov 30th, 2000
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    Actually, Playkins . . .
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    Nov 30th, 2000
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    Nov 30th, 2000
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    how to go from avi to mpeg?
    by iscariot
    Nov 30th, 2000
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    A plea to my fellow geeks...
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    Nov 30th, 2000
    09:40:25 AM
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    by The Killer-Goat
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:15:46 AM
    Screener copies for sale!
    by Aunty-WB
    Nov 30th, 2000
    11:40:25 AM
    To the asshole who said "America Sucks..."
    by TradSka
    Nov 30th, 2000
    12:20:37 PM
    So are we going to start an email campaign or what?
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Nov 30th, 2000
    12:30:38 PM
    and the irony being that
    by enigma
    Nov 30th, 2000
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    Art & Entertainment & Business (to Goatkiller)
    by Playkins
    Nov 30th, 2000
    02:19:13 PM
    Warner doesn't want your money
    by wash
    Nov 30th, 2000
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    re: People rob liquor stores because they want something (money)
    by Zarozinia
    Nov 30th, 2000
    04:27:02 PM
    Re: Playkins
    by Anton_Sirius
    Nov 30th, 2000
    04:27:06 PM
    Playkins...
    by The Killer-Goat
    Nov 30th, 2000
    04:40:49 PM
    Mthiel, Kids, and Censorship
    by Mattman
    Nov 30th, 2000
    04:58:13 PM
    BOYCOT!!!
    by Agent23
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:00:47 PM
    Not directed at Mthiel
    by Mattman
    Nov 30th, 2000
    05:01:35 PM
    glad for the edits listed
    by Scavok
    Nov 30th, 2000
    07:51:04 PM
    Bootleg BATMAN BEYOND video
    by Scavok
    Nov 30th, 2000
    08:08:46 PM
    Top Secret: Do Not Read This!
    by monkeylucifer
    Nov 30th, 2000
    09:54:33 PM
    Scavok
    by Cowblaster
    Dec 1st, 2000
    01:00:33 AM
    No big deal
    by Boss Hog
    Dec 1st, 2000
    03:32:31 AM
    Scavok-
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    12:56:54 PM
    Reply from Scavok
    by Scavok
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:10:18 PM
    question on cuts.
    by jmulcahy1
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:34:46 PM
    Illegal, Scavok? Surely You Jest!
    by Cowblaster
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:44:42 PM
    more for the pirate prostitutes...
    by Scavok
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:49:48 PM
    Deac Speaks.... My fellow Batman Fans.. Help me.. for the sake o
    by Deacon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    05:58:02 PM
    Scavok, You Astound Me
    by Cowblaster
    Dec 1st, 2000
    06:20:35 PM
    Jonesin' for my BATMAN
    by Scavok
    Dec 1st, 2000
    06:41:03 PM
    Deac Speaks.... Freedom ... it's about Freedom Scavok
    by Deacon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    06:54:09 PM
    Deac Speaks... silly email protests...
    by Deacon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    07:06:41 PM
    Oh Yeah Scavok...
    by Deacon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    07:12:56 PM
    Scavok, I Actually Agree With You On That. . .
    by Cowblaster
    Dec 1st, 2000
    07:39:45 PM
    SCAVOK I AM ONE OF THOSE "SLAVE LABOR" ARTISTS!
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    08:09:16 PM
    Sorry about that -
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Dec 1st, 2000
    08:23:08 PM
    Still no good excuse...
    by Scavok
    Dec 1st, 2000
    08:58:56 PM
    Deac Speaks.. Scavok the Skimmer... READ what we post idiot
    by Deacon
    Dec 2nd, 2000
    03:58:09 AM
    Scavok the skimmer vs. Deac the weak geek
    by Scavok
    Dec 2nd, 2000
    06:12:06 PM
    Scavok, do you work for WB or something?
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Dec 4th, 2000
    01:03:02 PM
    Dear spoon,
    by Scavok
    Dec 4th, 2000
    03:02:34 PM
    Scavok -
    by ThereIsNoSpoon
    Dec 4th, 2000
    03:55:38 PM
    thereisnospoon
    by Scavok
    Dec 4th, 2000
    04:18:27 PM
    Here's what I think!
    by Majora
    Dec 9th, 2000
    05:07:56 PM
    WARNING: DO NOT BUY ROTJ FROM "AUNTY" !!
    by Mozer
    Dec 13th, 2000
    04:37:23 PM
    WOW SCOVOK
    by MexiFry
    Jan 10th, 2001
    03:07:31 AM
    WOW SCOVOK
    by MexiFry
    Jan 10th, 2001
    03:12:41 AM
    WOW MEXIFRY
    by Scavok
    Jan 18th, 2001
    03:01:30 PM
    Hey Scrotum-sack-er, Skovak...
    by MexiFry
    Jan 27th, 2001
    03:03:15 PM

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