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Trades finally pick up the KING CONAN story!
Hey folks, Harry here... Variety has finally picked up the story about the Wachowski Brothers and John Milius hooking up to do KING CONAN. They mention how at one point it was looking like 'The Rock' was going to be Conan, but.... ahem... luckily, that ain't the case no more. Milius has been talking to Arnold about the film... which John plans to write with the Wachowski fellas. It seems as though they want to fast track this thing.... It looks like they are going to move ahead as though there is no impending strike... and pray that the studios work out a deal to make it so there is no strike. Let us pray. Milius.... Conan..... YES!!!! To read our original story on KING CONAN that Moriarty wrote, Click Here, but it should be known that the folks at Filmforce are who first broke the story!
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That's French for "I'm first!"
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There is nothing wrong with this picture.And if they could do it again with Arnold and Milius right on.There are so many Movies were you say I like this part of the movie but this and that was not so good.But perfect movies for me are Conan Ghostbusters Robocop .
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I'm more excited at the notion of a grand finale for "Conan" than for the irretrievably damaged "Star Wars". Along with "Dragonslayer" and "Excalibur", "Conan" is one of the only great fantasy films ever made. And of those three, it's the only that could conceivably warrant a sequel. Schwarzenegger, Milius, and the Wachowskis...sound like a great mix, but don't forget god-like Basil Poledouris! His score was half of what made "Conan" work! To hell with the "Star Wars" prequels, I want to return to the days of HIGH ADVENTURE!
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MORE SUPER VIOLENT SWORD FIGHTS!!!! I wanna see heads FLY and blood pour from stumps! Some tits would be cool too.
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TRIPLE FUCKIN H!!!! God damn, is it not OBVIOUS to everyone that HHH is the man who should play Conan if Ahnuld isn't up for it?? Ahnuld = King Conan. HHH = post-Barbarian-pre-Destroyer (best to pretend that never happened). But seriously, the Rock? Christ what a poor concept that would be.
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Much as I like Arnold, they should find a younger actor for anything other than King Conan. They can also save some money that way too. Hopefully Milius, who is such a good writer and who has gotten too few chances recently, will faithfully adapt one of Robert E. Howard's original tales like "People of the Black Circle" or "Hour of the Dragon." Now let's see a John Carpenter version of Howard's "Pigeons from Hell" and an Aronofsky helmed "The Black Stone"!
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Why the hell does Milius need the Wachowski Bros? He created a masterpiece in Conan by himself. Milius is brilliant and should be left alone! ps. If I see wire fu in King Conan I'm literally going to puke.
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Nov 07, 2000 10:42:46 AM CST
What about the pivotal characters from Conan the Destroyer???
by james_o'nasty
Will the Keepers of the Hoa-hn be making a much needed appearance?
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Nov 07, 2000 11:00:14 AM CST
How can Arnold do this when he'll be filming Terminator 3 before
by fatal discharge
...enquiring minds want to know.
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The guy's got Hyborian genes!
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Okay after a couple of duds like Last Action Hero and End of Days Arnold went back to Sci-Fi action with the Sixth Day. Now that doesn't seem to be panning out, so he may go even further back to do Conan again. What if Conan doesn't pan out? Is it back to "The Jayne Mansfield Story" or "Hercules in New York"?
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Nov 07, 2000 12:16:43 PM CST
To the user who asked about pivitol characters from Conan the de
by elros20
What pivitol characters!? Arnold was the only one I could think of, unless you want to bring back the wizard which would be cool. I hate to tell you this but Conan the Destroyer sucked big time. It was a sick and pale comparison to the Milius directed Conan the Barbarian. -
Nov 07, 2000 12:41:41 PM CST
Deac Speaks... King Conan With Arnold is the ONLY Conan film tha
by deacon
only arnold can play Conan! and only the King Conan storyline would work too! no other storyline would work at all unless it's a prequel and oh boy i'm really excited about another bloody prequel...cough cough... dude if arnold had any sense he'd take this role! and the actors strike is pants! arnold should work anyway! whats gonna happen are all the lame extras or "actors" gonna get mad and put little mustaches on all his sixth day posters? whoopdyfreakindoo! arnold could go and chop all their heads off with that huge fucking sword! Terminator3 will suck but King Conan will kick ass cause the King Conan story is kick ass and Milius kicks ass!the matrix was a HUGE terminator rip off so if the wachowskis get their rip-off hands on this i will fear but as long as Milius is involved i fear nothing. get arnold and make king conan a reality! and if you get a wrestler to replace arnold Milius? i will hunt you down and tear your heart from your body.. then show it to you.. so you can see how black it is before you die...
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That was some great casting 15 yrs. ago. But now I'm afraid Arnold should be shifting his paradigms and find new roles. The man is getting old. He became a star for playing certain characters, characters that he can no longer play, but still tries to capatilize on. He is on the right track with sixth day, which looks shitty, but more cerebral than films such as T3 and King Conan. Doc Savage may be a good thing, but Conan is not.
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At first I said no, but then I realized that by the time Conan became king of Sumaria (?? it's been years since I read the entire series by Robert E. Howard and later by Sprague de Camp) he was in his 50s. Right? I know he wasn't a young strapping lad, so Arnold is just about the right age.
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if you're saying "let's get a wrestler to play conan", the answer is VERY. how much more fuckin' obvious could it be: you make 'king conan', you get arnold to play a conan who's getting a bit long in the tooth but can still slice and dice with the best of 'em. THEN you get a younger musclemutt to play the next generation of barbarian. by movie's end, arnold bows out and new kid takes up the slack. it's that whole 'passing of the torch' thing. damned if i know who could play barbarian, jr (just NOT kevin sorbo - who? - and NOT some freakin' wrestler), but can we get vladimir kulich or dennis storhoi from 'the 13th warrior' in there somewhere, please? they were both kickass in that movie! i strongly believe that if touchstone had left mctiernan alone he would have made a magnificent middle ages bloodbath. but i digress. look, make a hard-R, bloody violent 'king conan' and here's what happens: arnold goes out in style and we get a new action hero and new action franchise to dig. you know i'm right. kick shit like 'collateral damage' to the curb and make 'king conan' (milius writes/directs, wachowskis produce) immediately!!!
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They know comic geek shot composition, but the weakest part of The Matrix was its script. The Matrix is no Conan the Destroyer, and I just hope Milius will rework whatever they contribute as well as he massaged Stone's script.
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Milius is one of the few directors that seem to be able to crack the rockhard ego of an actor such as Arnold and actually produce a decent characterization as a result. The brothers W also proved that could get Mr Eyecandy Reeves to actually move, walk, fight and talk in a convincing manner. I feel that there is a chance here to restore the Geekdom of fantasy with a LOTR and KC (...and how I wish the D&D film had actually been produced by Gygax and written by Vance) and end a cycle of poor scripted, lacklustre over-baked films of the late 80's and early 90's. Oh yes, and a Sword & the Sorcerer sequel? Definately - there's a good role for duh Rock.
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awesome news, conan has always been a fav of mine.
But dont you all think we arent maybe giving the why-chow-skis too much credit? I mean they've done ONE GOOD MOVIE. best hang tight on these guys. -
Nov 07, 2000 10:14:40 PM CST
That's TWO good movies to the Wachowski's name, Manifest. TWO.
by dave_f
"Matrix" AND the sexy crime thriller, "Bound". It's a stylish little flick, well worth your time if you haven't seen it. Not sure if helming "Matrix" and "Bound" qualifies them for Conan, but those are two pretty disparate flicks...at the very least, they suggest the Wachowskis have some diversity in them. Note in particular: "Bound" had no wire-fu, "Matrix" had no crime lesbians. "Matrix"-bashers need to stop assuming these guys are gonna break out the same tricks for every movie they work on.
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I saw it once in the theatre then saw it again to make sure. Stylish, well ok. Good? No. The Matrix is good. Fun and stylish. Will I look back and laugh at it 10 years from now? you betcha.
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Nov 08, 2000 12:17:15 AM CST
STOP DISSIN MY RASSLERS YOU DUMB FUCKS!!! I GOT A COMPARISON FOR
by sciyth
ARNOLD WAS A FUCKIN BODY BUILDER!! A BODY BUILDER . THATS LIKE ONE STEP FROM BEING A RASSLER YA MORON! HELL IF HOLLYWOOD HADNT COME KNOCKIN HE MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN THE TRIPLE H OF HIS DAY. NOW LETS COMPARE!! RASSLER=BIG DUMB EX JOCK MORON. BODY BUILDER=WELL, WHAT DO YOU KNOW!! WHAT A CO-INK-E-DINK. IDIOT JACKASS....IM OUT AAARRRRGH!!!! HATE RAGE FEAR APATHY!!!.....AND YES...I DID VOTE TODAY!!!
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Silly? Sure, but it's an entertaining ride. How often do we get a stylish lesbian crime thriller, I ask? Not nearly enough, any sane man responds. The cool Trojan Horse of the movie is Joe Pantoliano though. I came for the lesbians (no jokes please), but stayed to watch this great weasely bastard pulling out all the stops to thwart those chicks. Almost rooted for the guy, bad accent and all. I say again...solid freshman film.
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As much as I love Arnold I think he's a bit too old to be our favorite loin clothed Bad Boy. If he does it it will be like Terry Prachet's Cohen the Barbarian and his geratric "Golden Hoarde"...as in Golden years. Due to survival of the fitest, Barbarians don't live to a ripe old age unless they are absolute bad asses.
Did anyone ever notice Conan and Bond have the same basic formula? Kick the bad guys ass, screw the hot chicks...save the world...on to the next adventure. -
"Don't move. Get your hands in the air!" "John! It's us! Lyle and Eric Matrix! Don't shoot!" "Don't shoot? That's the most preposterous thing I've ever heard." "But John, we have an appointment. You know us!" "So I do. So I do. Sit down, boys. Have a cigar." "Could you put the gun away, John?" "What do you mean?" "Okay, could you at least aim at him instead of me?" "HEY!" "Sorry, Eric." "Does this make you nervous, boys? This masterpiece of steel and wood in my hands. This is today's broadsword, boys. And these are the hands that wield the sword." "That's what we came to see you about, John." "Yeah, we've used our MATRIX clout to get KING CONAN going." "Well, Joel, Ethan, I have to tell you, King Conan is not going to be some piece of shit like THE MATRIX!" "Oh, we know that, John!" "Believe us, we know." "King Conan is about grandeur and ascension, loving your enemies and raping their cattle. There will be blood on this film. We're all going to get blood on our hands this time. Are you ready for bloodletting? Owen? Paul?" "Sure." "Count us in, John!" "Good. I shall require a million dollars, a custom made Purdy shotgun, and a delux Winnebago packed floor to ceiling with Cuban cigars."
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All he needs is Schwarzenegger! If Arnold could get Eraser, End of Days, and The Sixth Day made, he sure as hell can sell a Conan movie! Especially with Milius writing and directing. And Buzz Maverick, stop posting those dialogues- there dumb and impossible to follow.
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...that's why I have a name like Buzz Maverik, because I'm so darned compliant and eager to please.
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Nov 09, 2000 12:31:27 AM CST
But Just So You Know I Was Being Sarcastic, Here's Another Dialo
by buzz maverik
"Ah, that melodious sound! Come, Peter and Bobby, there's something caught in my trapline." "You trap animals in Malibu, John?" "Sure. Coyotes, raccoons, the occasional Sheen. But what in the name of Dante is that thing?" "It looks like the DC comic book character from the 80s, the Blue Devil." "That book was pretty funny, but usually not drawn worth a shit." "Comic books, eh? Always preferred MOBY DICK and THE ILLIAD myself." "Let me down! This dialogue is hard to follow!" "It talks!" "This dialogue is really dumb." "I don't think he knows you actually talk like this, John." "That's because he has no Code, Alan. That's because he does not adhere to Bushido, Albert. He is not Samurai." "What are you going to do with him, John?" "We will let Allah decide. We shall see if the crashing surf is merciful today. I'm hungry, boys. Let's go to Tommy's for chiliburgers. Bring your Blue Meanie friend too."
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